TVRI — broadcast 20261011 153000 UTC 517 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:01] because the network of [00:00:04] idols with Irina Păcurariu. [00:00:11] Iraq several times to [00:00:28] You could see an explosion, I run. [00:00:30] explosions, then I said, "Lord, [00:00:34] will happen here?" Cristina helped a lot to [00:00:36] understand how I should [00:00:40] do my job to get out [00:00:44] alive. [00:00:44] News [00:00:50] reports have brought us over the years dramatic information from [00:00:54] the Gulf Wars. Terrifying images, armed soldiers, [00:00:57] collapsed buildings, broken destinies. Less seen were [00:01:01] those who lived and especially worked against the clock, for [00:01:04] the lives of the wounded, a few angels in white robes, doctors [00:01:08] from all over the world, who had only one mission, to save [00:01:11] as many [00:01:12] lives [00:01:16] as possible. Chief plastic surgeon Cristina Bejan chose to leave [00:01:20] Romania for Iraq, although she knew she was going to a [00:01:23] conflict zone, in the middle of a war, the reality was much more [00:01:27] tragic than she had imagined before leaving. Before [00:01:30] leaving, making this decision, I was a chief [00:01:33] plastic surgeon at the Central Military Hospital in [00:01:36] Bucharest. I was about 36 [00:01:39] years old, and it all started in my mind [00:01:43] when I tried to get a car on installments and went to the bank, and [00:01:46] the bank told me that my salary as a chief doctor was not enough [00:01:50] about 100 to buy this car. I was lucky that exactly about [00:01:54] two or three months after arriving at the military hospital, there was a [00:01:57] request for volunteers for the first [00:02:01] military medical mission in Iraq. We were all very [00:02:04] confident, maybe a little naive, so [00:02:08] we didn't know where we were going, we were going into the unknown. They kept us in a buffer [00:02:11] zone in Kuwait for about a week until we had the opening [00:02:15] to enter Iraq, and there, when I first put on all [00:02:18] my equipment, which weighed about 40 kg, I felt like I was sinking [00:02:22] about 10 cm into [00:02:25] moment came when they took [00:02:29] of course. We went by car from the airport for about [00:02:32] 30 km, I think, to Abu Ghraib, and there was an [00:02:35] explosion, smoke, and bangs, then I said, "Lord, where [00:02:39] am I going and what will happen here?" [00:02:43] Anyway, the first days were spent adapting, we were [00:02:46] in a campus guarded by [00:02:49] American Marines. Until then, I thought Rambo was [00:02:53] just a movie, but no, Rambo is not a movie, so [00:02:56] those soldiers were exactly equipped with vests, helmets, and huge [00:03:00] machine guns, with huge [00:03:03] bullet reserves with grenades, that's how they walked around all the time. They housed [00:03:07] us somewhere in the former prison, in the cells [00:03:11] of the former prison, because they said that since it was made of concrete, it was the most solid and most [00:03:14] resistant in case of mortar [00:03:17] attacks. [00:03:19] Life as a war doctor in Iraq profoundly marked her, both personally [00:03:23] and professionally. There she [00:03:26] understood what it means to be a doctor in a war zone, but also [00:03:30] how to use the latest medical technologies [00:03:33] that were non-existent at that time in [00:03:35] Romania. [00:03:38] I worked in a field hospital for [00:03:40] traumatology, everything took place in about four [00:03:43] tents, but those tents had everything, including in [00:03:47] one of them there was a state-of-the-art CT scanner, state-of-the-art [00:03:51] radiology, computerized, digitized, so I [00:03:54] hadn't seen anything like that in our hospitals yet. [00:03:58] Uh, there I learned exactly what [00:04:02] anesthesia means, what preparation means, what [00:04:04] înseamnă [00:04:07] post-operative means, [00:04:09] what it means to be a well-trained [00:04:12] assistant who can take over some of the doctor's [00:04:16] duties. In the medical team, there were two surgeons, there were three [00:04:19] surgeons, there was an ENT doctor who was also the team [00:04:23] leader, there was a doctor, a general surgeon, and me, who [00:04:26] was a plastic surgeon, and I worked in a team with two American [00:04:30] doctors, one was a general surgeon, the other was an [00:04:34] orthopedist. It wasn't like a hospital in a peaceful [00:04:37] zone, there was always the possibility that something [00:04:41] would happen, always, [00:04:43] you were [00:04:46] waiting for the alarm to sound that mortars were [00:04:49] coming to the campus and you had to take shelter, then you had to see if [00:04:53] anyone was hurt, if they needed us at the hospital. The ones we [00:04:57] treated were prisoners. They were, so to speak, [00:05:01] rebels and those they caught, they [00:05:04] brought them and operated on them, and many [00:05:08] times when they woke up from anesthesia, at least one I remember. [00:05:12] I remember him waking up from anesthesia and starting to yell, "Give [00:05:15] me a rifle to kill the Americans." [00:05:19] Although it seems hard to understand, Dr. Cristina Bejan returned to [00:05:24] repair faces and destinies. [00:05:27] I went with this company again to Iraq. This time I [00:05:31] went straight to the Red Zone. I was right [00:05:34] next to the hotel, I think it was called [00:05:37] the Palestine hotel, from where CNN broadcast all its reports during [00:05:41] the conflict. There the [00:05:44] situation was even stricter because it was a private [00:05:48] security company, various people who arrived in Iraq and had to [00:05:51] travel, were escorted by four cars, one in front, two on the [00:05:54] side, one in back, for these escort [00:05:58] cars, as they say, there was always the danger of stepping on a [00:06:02] mortar or an IED commanded by [00:06:05] phone. We were a team of [00:06:08] four doctors. Now I have to say that in the American [00:06:12] army there is something that [00:06:15] is called a medic, so who is somewhere between an assistant and [00:06:18] a doctor, but he is strictly trained for the [00:06:22] army, so only in the army there is this designation of medic who always [00:06:26] provides first aid and maintains the life [00:06:29] of the wounded in the war [00:06:32] conflict. Practically, there I mostly did emergency medicine, although I didn't have [00:06:36] this specialty, I learned it on the fly, I had to take [00:06:40] cardio-respiratory resuscitation courses. Advanced [00:06:45] trauma support courses, there we stayed [00:06:48] in a hotel where about 200 people were accommodated, we, the medical team, were not [00:06:51] allowed to leave that hotel except in special situations, and [00:06:55] we were always accompanied by the same four [00:06:58] cars, like that. We had a team of [00:07:01] K9s, of dogs [00:07:04] who always, when a car came to the gate, would go and [00:07:07] sniff if it had a bomb or not. [00:07:09] bombă. [00:07:13] When you're forced to operate, even though you hear machine gun [00:07:16] fire outside, every moment lived is precious, [00:07:20] as are the friendships made in conflict [00:07:22] zones. [00:07:26] I met Cristina in 2006, [00:07:29] while I worked [00:07:33] as a general practitioner in [00:07:36] Iraq. Cristina helped a lot to [00:07:39] understand how [00:07:43] I should do my job to get out [00:07:46] alive from there. I learned a lot in [00:07:50] the medical sense of [00:07:53] the word, I had never before dealt with [00:07:57] patients with [00:08:00] malaria, [00:08:02] with multiple diseases, who came directly from India to [00:08:06] Iraq. We did a kind of screening of the population [00:08:10] that came to provide [00:08:12] catering, and they came with multiple pathologies that we had [00:08:16] to identify, and we were also exposed, of course, [00:08:20] to these risks, [00:08:22] but with Cristina and the other Romanian doctors who were there, we [00:08:26] managed to form a good team and [00:08:28] să [00:08:32] to escape with our lives and [00:08:35] to do something else after the Iraq [00:08:39] episode. I found another company that [00:08:42] already had Romanian doctors, now it was a different type of job, but it was still [00:08:46] general medicine and emergency medicine, and [00:08:49] our role was to ensure [00:08:53] the welfare and health of those who [00:08:57] worked in the American canteen, [00:09:00] meaning the maintenance services of the [00:09:03] army, canteen, cleaning, and [00:09:07] this company only worked with Romanian doctors, so when we met [00:09:11] there, there were about four or five [00:09:13] Romanian doctors [00:09:15] and we worked in Camp Victory, [00:09:19] actually Camp Victory, which was the residential area of [00:09:22] Saddam Hussein's Baghdad, which now looked pitiful, everything [00:09:26] was destroyed, everything was, but [00:09:29] it was one of the safest areas in Iraq. [00:09:33] Our patients were mostly Indians or Pakistanis or [00:09:37] Nepalis. There I also met Dana, a dear [00:09:41] friend of mine, and our destiny was intertwined [00:09:44] somehow in the following years. I was not [00:09:48] very happy with that job, [00:09:51] I mean, working with the American army and [00:09:54] knowing the conditions that should have been [00:09:58] offered to us, this company didn't [00:10:01] really, so even though we were doctors, we were treated, how can I say, on the same [00:10:05] level as the Indians who [00:10:09] cleaned the Americans' toilets and kitchens. [00:10:12] That was the first time I told myself that it wasn't worth bothering for what, if I wasn't happy professionally [00:10:16] or, how can I say, personally. [00:10:20] So, I [00:10:23] resigned after four months. [00:10:26] zile. [00:10:29] After practicing in the most agitated conflict zones, Dr. Cristina [00:10:33] Bejan accepted a second challenge, from the Persian [00:10:36] Gulf she went to the center of the African [00:10:39] continent. [00:10:41] As usual, I was lucky. The company that hired me the first time [00:10:45] in Iraq just called and told me, "Cristina, we have a position [00:10:49] in Liberia, in Monrovia, do you want to [00:10:51] go?" And I said, "Yes," without knowing what it was [00:10:55] or where Monrovia was. After I said yes, I went and looked at the map and saw [00:10:59] it was Africa there, [00:11:01] West Africa, somewhere at the bend, and I said, "Oh, okay, I haven't been [00:11:05] here before." In Africa, it was a different type of mission. [00:11:09] Liberia was coming after a civil war of about 10 years. [00:11:12] And our mission there was to [00:11:16] rebuild the new Liberian [00:11:17] army. [00:11:21] The conflict zone in Africa came with new challenges, [00:11:25] both professional and personal, also generated by cultural [00:11:29] differences. [00:11:33] Africa is terribly poor despite all its resources and [00:11:37] landscapes. There is no healthcare system there. I was [00:11:40] impressed by how sick they were. We [00:11:44] had to test for HIV, [00:11:47] for hepatitis, for syphilis. Based on [00:11:50] my statistics, out of about 5000, I think I consulted about [00:11:54] 5000 [00:11:56] people, about 10% were [00:11:59] positive. Their problem was culture, [00:12:02] so if it was found out that someone was positive, it was a [00:12:06] shame. Another problem that I found out [00:12:09] existed there was malaria, so again [00:12:12] it was a global problem of Africa [00:12:15] with complications and [00:12:18] consequences. [00:12:21] And yes, I tried, I tried to help [00:12:25] as long as I was there. Liberia was mainly [00:12:28] a Christian country, so about 80% were Christians of [00:12:32] various factions, [00:12:35] let's say. Uh, there weren't many [00:12:38] Muslims, there were many people of tribal religions [00:12:42] as well, they worked with magic, they worked [00:12:44] with, they did distance [00:12:47] treatments, [00:12:50] well, it was their tradition, [00:12:53] but uh, [00:12:55] I didn't have any adaptation problems, meaning they [00:12:58] accepted you, they tried to learn from [00:13:02] you. [00:13:06] After a few years of practicing only in war zones, Cristina Bejan [00:13:10] decided to retreat to Europe. For a start, she [00:13:13] practiced as a specialist doctor in [00:13:15] London. [00:13:18] The only solution for most Romanians who left for [00:13:22] England at that time was to be a resident medical [00:13:25] officer, this being a kind [00:13:27] of permanent on-call doctor in [00:13:31] private hospitals. England is a country with a very [00:13:34] well-established medical system, with very well-written [00:13:37] rules and procedures and [00:13:41] defined, and we had to learn all these things on the [00:13:44] fly, there the patient is [00:13:48] the boss, it was not harder there, it was much harder than in [00:13:52] war zones, but that year also passed. I [00:13:56] got a specialist position at Chelsea [00:14:00] Hospital. They also have a different system for evaluating doctors, [00:14:03] so you are a resident for five [00:14:06] years, and then until you become a consultant, it can [00:14:10] take a very long time, because becoming a consultant depends first [00:14:13] of all on passing some exams that are very difficult, it depends [00:14:17] on finding an open position because the number of consultants is [00:14:21] if one retires [00:14:25] can you take over that consultant position. And between [00:14:28] resident and consultant there are various [00:14:31] grades of specialist, [00:14:34] fellow, [00:14:36] well, some [00:14:40] intermediate things. The competition in the hospital in the same [00:14:43] specialty, plastic [00:14:46] which has prospects for very [00:14:49] high incomes, was very high, [00:14:52] so everyone saw me as a threat because I already [00:14:56] had the specialty, so I could anytime, they thought, anytime [00:15:00] I could go ahead of them, who didn't have [00:15:03] the specialty, who were already final year residents [00:15:07] or hadn't yet taken those exams. She also came to [00:15:10] England, worked for a period, I stayed [00:15:14] there from 2009 until [00:15:18] 2019 [00:15:19] practic, [00:15:24] and I... collaborated again for a period, but not at work, [00:15:28] because I worked in a different type of hospital, I [00:15:31] worked initially in private hospitals, like [00:15:34] her, and then I... I really wanted [00:15:38] to try to do medicine the way I [00:15:41] wanted, meaning medicine in a [00:15:44] hospital, with [00:15:46] emergencies. [00:15:48] When I finished college, I had wanted to do general [00:15:52] surgery, but I didn't succeed in the first two years here, and [00:15:55] I was left with this dream that had somehow faded along the way, [00:15:59] but in England I resumed it because I realized it [00:16:03] was possible, and I worked more in state [00:16:06] hospitals. And I stayed in a specialty, neurosurgery, in [00:16:10] England, I wanted to stay, I mean I wanted to stay, I lived [00:16:14] there, practically, I was an immigrant with papers, for a long [00:16:18] period, [00:16:20] and again Cristina [00:16:24] chose other horizons, she left England [00:16:28] again [00:16:31] for other projects and we met again when I returned [00:16:34] to Romania two years ago. I never [00:16:38] lost touch, but [00:16:42] somehow we remained very [00:16:45] connected both professionally and well, [00:16:49] personally. [00:16:50] personal. [00:16:54] Cristina Bejan's life seems like an adventure book, each [00:16:57] chapter has something special, like the one spent on the high [00:17:01] seas. [00:17:04] After two years, I said, "Enough with England, I have to..." [00:17:16] and take care of the staff, and what was it about? It was about [00:17:19] some ships that were looking for oil on the seabed, in [00:17:23] fact they were doing a kind of echocardiography of the seabed, on that ship [00:17:28] mapped, others processed [00:17:31] data, others were also sailors who operated the ship [00:17:35] and worked on the maintenance of the ship, of course they needed [00:17:38] a doctor, because on the high seas 200 [00:17:42] km, dacă se întâmplă ceva, a întâmplat și nu [00:17:46] times there were areas that didn't even [00:17:49] have helicopter coverage and then to get to shore in case [00:17:53] least 24 hours [00:17:56] and in those 24 hours if you had [00:18:00] an accident you had to be able to keep the person alive to give [00:18:03] them a chance to be [00:18:07] hospital, there I learned another thing in this, I [00:18:11] learned what prevention means, this job [00:18:15] was done, so you had shifts [00:18:18] weeks at home or even six weeks I had [00:18:22] periods, [00:18:24] I usually left on about three trips a [00:18:26] an, [00:18:30] another chapter in Cristina Bejan's life begins with [00:18:34] căsătoria ei și cu dorința de a avea propria. clinică de [00:18:38] chirurgie [00:18:38] clinic. [00:18:42] I had no idea what a business meant, so [00:18:46] I went head first, maybe if I had [00:18:49] 2015 when I opened [00:18:53] this business, maybe everything would have gone faster and [00:18:55] more efficiently, but practically I [00:18:59] experimented, I invested money, I lost money, it [00:19:02] lasted until 2016 when I managed to attach the aesthetic [00:19:06] started to go much better and [00:19:10] are getting better and better. I completely gave up going to [00:19:13] England somewhere in 2017, around the [00:19:16] end of 2017, beginning of 2018, because it was no longer [00:19:20] profitable, it had already started to be a [00:19:23] waste of time going to England, and then I said, "That's it, I'm staying [00:19:27] here and I'm taking on all the responsibilities, [00:19:31] everything I know how to do." I started from scratch, because in these [00:19:34] 10 years new therapies, new products, [00:19:38] new devices appeared. I already built a clientele, I built [00:19:41] a stable clientele, patients come back gladly, maybe [00:19:45] I'm not the best or the [00:19:49] smartest aesthetic [00:19:52] sense and that matters a lot [00:19:55] in aesthetics. A business has to be something you're good at, I mean, [00:19:59] I came to the conclusion that if you open a business [00:20:03] and if you at some [00:20:06] big businesses, small businesses, but a business like mine, so if [00:20:10] you, as the owner of that [00:20:13] business, are able to handle all the [00:20:17] activity that takes place in that business, then [00:20:20] open it. If you open a business where you depend on other [00:20:24] people, especially for services, for [00:20:27] trades, for professions, then don't open it, because [00:20:30] you won't be able to control it, [00:20:34] you have to do what you know how to do with your own hands. And [00:20:37] then if you do what you know how to do with your own hands [00:20:40] well, you will surely have success and results. [00:20:44] The assistant I have now, Andreea, is an extraordinary [00:20:47] girl and everything is connected [00:20:51] like this because I started with body contouring and I hired [00:20:54] two people who were a bit older, so I went with the idea that young beautiful [00:20:58] older women, 45, [00:21:01] 50 years old, who are [00:21:05] whom the clients never complained about. One of [00:21:08] these ladies told me at one point that she was talking about [00:21:12] student in her first year of nursing [00:21:15] bring her here, we'll teach her to do [00:21:19] what? She doesn't want to come and work here." And so Andreea [00:21:23] scratch and in [00:21:26] three years she finished school and now I think she is one of the best [00:21:30] pregătite asistente de estetică din din România. Cu [00:21:34] Dr. Bejan [00:21:37] in the first week of the year, in [00:21:40] 2017, when my mother actually came [00:21:44] home and asked me, "Do you want to work with Dr. [00:21:47] ?" I said , "How? I don't [00:21:50] know anything at all, I'm still in school, so [00:21:53] absolutely nothing." Practically, the next day I came here to [00:21:57] Dr., I had a small interview, she [00:22:00] asked, "How is school, do you like [00:22:04] it, do you want to be a medical assistant?" I said yes. Dr. is [00:22:08] a very sweet, [00:22:11] sincere person, she helps [00:22:15] everyone, she practically taught [00:22:18] me everything. to collect, to do exactly [00:22:22] what a medical assistant [00:22:24] does. [00:22:27] After traveling the world far and wide, after practicing in conflict [00:22:31] zones or in London, Cristina Bejan returned to [00:22:34] Romania, where she feels [00:22:36] at home. [00:22:40] Wherever I traveled, I missed my country. Romania is one [00:22:44] of the countries where a lot [00:22:47] we are. [00:22:50] We are the type to place a lot of importance on how [00:22:53] we look, how we dress, how we [00:22:56] do our makeup, these things don't happen much in England [00:23:00] or in Germany or there [00:23:03] indeed aesthetics is a luxury thing, [00:23:07] I started from the idea of addressing the average woman in Romania, [00:23:10] aged somewhere between 35 and 50 [00:23:14] years old. Professionally, the next step is [00:23:17] to perfect myself [00:23:20] as much as possible in facial surgery, blepharoplasties, facelifts. [00:24:11] Soon you will witness the first show in Romania that will be [00:24:15] broadcast directly from the street. Get ready for [00:24:19] everything, the [00:24:21] good or the bad, [00:24:25] we're moving here to the street, everyone [00:24:29] to see us, [00:24:31] TVR is waiting for you [00:24:34] now to be [00:24:37] n [00:24:39] in front of [00:24:43] grace. 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At Info Diaspora you will always [00:28:45] find essential information and advice from the best [00:28:49] specialists. Info Diaspora. As many [00:28:53] Romanians, so many answers. On TVR [00:28:56] International. [00:29:25] Welcome back to the evening news, I'm Alina Stancu, let's see the headlines of [00:29:29] the edition together. A week is coming. an important one for [00:29:33] the designated prime minister. Luca Niculescu plans to present the government program [00:29:36] and the list of ministers on Thursday, but so far there is no clear [00:29:40] majority solution. [00:29:42] Donald Trump wants a new president in Ukraine who can negotiate a peace [00:29:46] agreement with Russia. Zelensky, who is also defended by the opposition in [00:29:49] Kiev, replied that he would organize elections if Putin stops the attacks [00:29:53] in 60 days. [00:29:56] The weather changes radically from one hour to another, temperatures drop sharply and in [00:29:59] much of the country it will rain heavily. Doctors warn [00:30:03] that many people may be affected by depression during [00:30:06] this period. Pope Leon will be operated on in the coming [00:30:10] days, doctors discovered an early stage nodule in [00:30:14] one of his lungs. [00:30:24] The President of Ukraine declared that he would organize elections if Russia accepts a [00:30:28] 60-day ceasefire. The leader from Kiev made the statement in [00:30:32] an interview in the American press responding to the American [00:30:34] president, who said that it was time for Ukraine to have a [00:30:38] new president. Trump blamed Zelensky for the fuel crisis, [00:30:41] furious that he did not stop attacking Russian [00:30:45] refineries. In the meantime, however, Trump announced on his social [00:30:48] network that Russia and Ukraine have reached a so- [00:30:51] called energy ceasefire, but he did not [00:30:53] give details. If President Trump [00:30:57] really.