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[00:00:00] You were following this event or Channel. how the Houthi militias
[00:00:04] were able to overthrow the capital, Sana'a.
[00:00:08] we conclude this Look, the Houthi militias overthrew the capital, Sana'a.
[00:00:12] They
[00:00:14] prepared for its fall on a platter
[00:00:17] of conflicts and entry into Sana'a, then Sana'a
[00:00:25] to communicate, and we communicated with something darker than entered. How were you following this event, or how were the Houthi militias able to overthrow
[00:00:28] the capital, Sana'a? Look, the Houthi militias overthrew
[00:00:32] the capital, Sana'a.
[00:00:35] did you follow this, first of This means they prepared for its fall on
[00:00:38] a platter of disputes. The nation and the army
[00:00:41] are neutral. If the army is neutral,
[00:00:45] something darker than when will it abandon its neutrality?
[00:00:47] It's neutral.
[00:00:50] There, Ali Abdullah Saleh wanted to
[00:00:54] take revenge on his opponents with the Houthis. There were deals
[00:00:58] between the sheikhs who agreed with
[00:01:01] the Houthis and signed that he would be allowed to
[00:01:04] pass through the black line, which is the
[00:01:08] asphalt road.
[00:01:10] I said that the parties should not have negotiated while the Houthis
[00:01:14] were fighting. Rather, they apologized to him, rather they
[00:01:18] apologized to him. So I told you,
[00:01:20] is, I mean, this everyone is up to their ears keep their promises. in different proportions,
[00:01:24] him in many and who bears the highest proportion in this
[00:01:28] situation? Clearly, the General People's Congress after that,
[00:01:31] led by Ali Abdullah Saleh, because they allied.
[00:01:35] There is no evidence after the alliance.
[00:01:38] was detained by What evidence do you want me
[00:01:40] people, in women, in to give you after he tells you its latent strength is in these that we are Shiite
[00:01:44] them to cancel this Shiites who were shot with snipers?
[00:01:45] article, and it was removed from Of course, I do not accuse Ali Abdullah Saleh of being
[00:01:50] with influence from entire country. It does not a Houthi, but it was revenge on his opponents, and
[00:01:54] he thought, as he
[00:01:56] Tawfiq Al-Shameeri, who was said, that he was dancing on the heads of snakes. He thought
[00:01:59] he was dancing this
[00:02:03] many events slipped from his last dance, but the Houthis benefited
[00:02:05] from
[00:02:09] I mean, what is the reason for all the existing contradictions, and they benefited and knew
[00:02:12] how Ali Abdullah Saleh thought. So he preempted events. As soon as
[00:02:16] he entered Sana'a, he loaded
[00:02:19] Professor Mohammed and condemnation of what was happening to weapons, tanks, and armored vehicles towards
[00:02:22] Sa'dah, and he empowered himself, and
[00:02:26] their own preparations. We are talking about his eyes were on Ali Abdullah Saleh, and Ali Abdullah Saleh was not
[00:02:29] a Houthi, and he was
[00:02:32] I mean, the calculations were not national about to have them for dinner, but they had
[00:02:35] on, as I told you, him for lunch before he had them for dinner. What is the interest of the Minister
[00:02:37] of Defense
[00:02:39] in
[00:02:41] the army remaining, as you said, neutral? What
[00:02:45] is the interest of the former Minister of Defense
[00:02:48] in neutralizing the army? Of course,
[00:02:51] there are hidden hands
[00:02:54] and games and coordination.
[00:02:57] Of course, his name is Al-Hassan.
[00:03:01] Muhammad Nasser Ahmed Nasser Ahmed Al-Hasani, he has a connection
[00:03:04] with the group or they used his name, Al-Hasani,
[00:03:07] also and Imran, to fall. He went to visit
[00:03:11] spokesperson during this period. I was appointed the Emirates. Your country is falling, you visit another country. Why?
[00:03:14] and other This means that I don't know what this means
[00:03:17] to you and the viewer. This
[00:03:20] is not me looking into the unseen, but
[00:03:23] what we witnessed. I mean,
[00:03:27] even if there was an external role, doctor. I mean,
[00:03:30] even if there wasn't, how
[00:03:33] enough capabilities. do you go? You're not on a picnic. Your country is falling, and your capital is collapsing,
[00:03:37] and you declare that the army is neutral,
[00:03:40] and you go to Amran to visit the militias and not
[00:03:44] visit Camp
[00:03:46] 310, and you did not visit
[00:03:48] the army.
[00:03:51] So how
[00:03:52] we want more details about the information can there be any innocence in that? Yes.
[00:03:56] Well, of course, there might be an external plot.
[00:04:02] Meaning, infiltration. Yes, I want you to talk about the information you have.
[00:04:06] I mean, what are the facts and information
[00:04:09] you experienced? I experienced that there was
[00:04:13] infiltration. I wrote about Ben Omar that he
[00:04:17] was engineering the fall of Sana'a while having lunch with the Houthis
[00:04:19] in Sa'ada.
[00:04:21] a speech on their behalf, they withdrew from And his writings at the time were about Ben Omar
[00:04:25] people who will not and that he was a man
[00:04:27] be forgotten who came to hand over the homeland.
[00:04:38] We talked to him and told him that we want
[00:04:39] was able to escape decisions. I was with him, I met
[00:04:42] him, and we had Professor Yassin Saeed Numan
[00:04:46] Al-Ansi Al-Atwani. So he
[00:04:49] was sitting, and I told him, "Your Excellency, we need
[00:04:53] courageous decisions from you." This was before the Houthis
[00:04:56] entered. So he said, "What does it mean? Someone has
[00:04:59] 500 tanks. The last one in the last
[00:05:02] conversation in the 70s, and the other one in
[00:05:05] the division. And the owner of Abyan comes
[00:05:08] to rule here. Everyone who passed by my house
[00:05:11] made a fortune. And the owner of Abyan wants
[00:05:14] to rule. So he felt
[00:05:18] that he was let down by all parties and that he was shaken,
[00:05:21] so he could not make strong decisions. How did
[00:05:25] the event affect you, Professor Muhammad, with the fall of Sana'a?
[00:05:29] It was dark,
[00:05:33] darkness. I mean, the capital of your country falls
[00:05:37] and there is no resistance,
[00:05:40] and everyone kills it, and people are led
[00:05:43] like sheep, and there is no one
[00:05:46] to make strong decisions. How did the event affect you,
[00:05:50] Professor Muhammad, with the fall of Sana'a?
[00:05:52] It was dark,
[00:05:57] darkness. I mean, the capital of your country falls
[00:06:00] and there is no resistance,
[00:06:03] and everyone kills it, and people are led
[00:06:07] like sheep, and there
[00:06:09] is no one. After that,
[00:06:13] he tried to move to Taiz province.
[00:06:15] How did the people of Taiz
[00:06:18] province resist the Houthi militias and how were they able
[00:06:21] to protect the city? You were one of the attendees and a live
[00:06:25] witness to all these events, and one of the prominent
[00:06:29] and influential figures in Taiz
[00:06:31] province. We want to relive all the details as if
[00:06:35] we are watching them. What do you remember and what
[00:06:39] did you experience? Look, before
[00:06:44] I mention the names and what happened, I will tell
[00:06:47] you that Taiz,
[00:06:52] children, and the steadfastness and victory that
[00:06:56] it achieves for the supportive environment that
[00:06:59] is unique throughout the
[00:07:02] tolerate Houthi ideology in any way. Perhaps
[00:07:06] some hesitated and appeased at first
[00:07:09] due to the Houthi-GPC alliance. This is not
[00:07:13] for the Houthis, but for the GPC.
[00:07:16] When it presented, of course, before it presented, there
[00:07:20] was preparation
[00:07:21] for
[00:07:24] the resistance, as I told you, and we used to meet
[00:07:28] Sheikh Hamoud, and I, and Aref Jamil, Al-Dhabli,
[00:07:32] and I am not talking about the military. The military
[00:07:35] also had
[00:07:39] the popular side. And
[00:07:42] there were repeated meetings, and
[00:07:45] I had an interview
[00:07:47] Yemen Shabab channel,
[00:07:51] and I said that the Houthis would
[00:07:54] make the mistake of a lifetime if they tried to enter Taiz. He
[00:07:57] will enter because the people of Taiz were not prepared with heavy
[00:08:01] weapons, nor even the personal weapons they had. Those who had personal weapons
[00:08:05] did not have enough ammunition.
[00:08:08] We said he would enter, but he would not
[00:08:12] sleep at night. This is what happened when he entered. To the Central Security,
[00:08:15] the youth came out to them with bare chests and surrounded
[00:08:18] them, and there were casualties.
[00:08:20] Many of our people were injured, including Abdul Sattar Al-Shameeri, who was injured,
[00:08:26] young people. And also
[00:08:30] the military commanders played a big role,
[00:08:34] led by Al-Hamadi, who was the commander of Brigade
[00:08:37] 35, Adnan Al-Hamadi, who stood firm
[00:08:40] like mountains. And the resistance was formed in the early days
[00:08:44] and was able to stop the Houthis from entering the city
[00:08:47] and storming the city, even though the resistance in Taiz
[00:08:51] province was unarmed. We want
[00:08:54] to relive these details. I mean, Saeed's
[00:08:57] details. Sheikh Hamoud Saeed played a big role,
[00:09:00] and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, before we knew, was
[00:09:04] a generous supporter, and it supported Sheikh Hamoud
[00:09:08] and supported this.
[00:09:09] And
[00:09:12] Adnan Al-Hammadi provided from Brigade
[00:09:15] 35 tanks, weapons, and ammunition
[00:09:18] and gave it
[00:09:22] to the resistance, these weapons. And also after
[00:09:25] that, also Yousef Al-Sharaqi
[00:09:27] and
[00:09:30] this means
[00:09:34] many personalities. A moment,
[00:09:39] are the people who came forward
[00:09:42] to resist the Houthi militias. There are many names in Taiz province,
[00:09:46] including, as I said, Adnan Sadeq Al-Dabab, Yousef Al-Sharaqi,
[00:09:49] and Mohammed Al-Awani. Mohammed Al-Awani,
[00:09:53] he was martyred. He was the chief of staff of Brigade 35 and was one of
[00:09:56] the most honest men. And Sadeq Sarhan had a strong presence
[00:09:59] with many leaders.
[00:10:03] Then Brigadier Abdo Hamoud and Sheikh Abdul
[00:10:07] Qader Hail and the activist Mohammed Al-Mahmoudi
[00:10:11] and Adnan Ruzeiq, who had a strong presence
[00:10:14] in Taiz. And many leaders.
[00:10:17] I cannot, I mean, I don't want to mention some of them, so-and-so.
[00:10:20] Also, the
[00:10:23] Secretary-General of the Nasserite Party
[00:10:26] was supported, with the اعتراف
[00:10:29] of Yousef Al-Sharaqi, in establishing
[00:10:33] the Al-Dabab front, which is Abdullah. Yes,
[00:10:36] the Secretary-General of the party, Dr.
[00:10:40] Abdullah Numan, I mean, he played a big role, and the leaders
[00:10:44] of Islah were also present in
[00:10:48] most of the areas. But the largest
[00:10:50] and most numerous are the people and the independent
[00:10:55] people of Taiz, who for the first time, look,
[00:10:58] the parties were different from each other, but
[00:11:01] when the Houthis entered, they all united as one
[00:11:05] man and were one front. No difference.
[00:11:08] They forgot affiliations, they forgot everything, unlike what
[00:11:12] happened now. The diseases started to reappear.
[00:11:15] They must be treated and returned. Of course,
[00:11:18] before that, we also went
[00:11:22] down to Aden. You have it. Yes,
[00:11:26] yes, you went down to Aden twice, twice.
[00:11:29] Once, no difference. They forgot affiliations,
[00:11:33] they forgot everything, unlike what happened now. The diseases
[00:11:36] started to reappear. They must be treated
[00:11:40] and returned. Of course, before that,
[00:11:43] we also went down to Aden. You have
[00:11:47] it. Yes, yes, you went down
[00:11:50] to Aden twice, twice. Yes,
[00:11:53] to work on solutions to get the president out.
[00:11:59] Yes, I mean, you are talking about when President Abd Rabbu Mansour Hadi
[00:12:03] the Houthi militias. Of course, we are the originators of the idea
[00:12:06] of the gathering of Taiz notables,
[00:12:10] and we have many social figures
[00:12:15] the parties, including Abdullah Al-Alimi, and including
[00:12:19] the esteemed Professor Abdul Malik
[00:12:22] Al-Mekhlafi and very prominent figures.
[00:12:26] We were part of this entity. Who did you meet
[00:12:29] in Aden? We met the governor of Taiz
[00:12:32] province, and we met Nayef Al-Bakri. He
[00:12:36] was the deputy governor. What was required of them
[00:12:40] We issued a statement of support
[00:12:44] the president in Sana'a
[00:12:45] and
[00:12:49] for there to be a national meeting
[00:12:52] to sense the dangers that
[00:12:56] threatened the country after Sana'a fell into the hands
[00:13:00] of the Houthi militias
[00:13:02] and for the national
[00:13:05] project that we seek to be straightened out in accordance with the comprehensive National Dialogue Conference.
[00:13:09] Yes. Well, if we return to the resistance of Taiz
[00:13:12] province, I will come to the second
[00:13:15] stage when President Abd Rabbu Mansour Hadi was able
[00:13:19] to leave Sana'a and go to Aden
[00:13:22] before he moved or went to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
[00:13:25] But there were voices saying that the Taiz
[00:13:29] resistance to the Houthi militias did not receive
[00:13:32] enough support. Is this true?
[00:13:36] What was the nature of the support this resistance received?
[00:13:39] What were the parties that supported this resistance?
[00:13:43] Taiz was not supported by anyone except the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
[00:13:46] It supported generously and supported. If it weren't for the support of the Kingdom of Saudi
[00:13:49] Arabia, it would have been, as I told you, Taiz
[00:13:53] did not have weapons. Enough ammunition or
[00:13:58] This does not detract from the courage of the people of Taiz.
[00:14:01] And how many areas were supported
[00:14:05] and that support did not bear fruit in them.
[00:14:07] And Taiz was supported and that support bore
[00:14:10] fruit after the whole city fell.
[00:14:14] Yes. But
[00:14:17] you have. Where did this support go?
[00:14:21] Who received this support? Because there are many voices saying
[00:14:25] that it did not receive enough support. Look, I don't have
[00:14:28] precise information about the support amount, but I know that
[00:14:31] Professor Hamoud Saeed was the primary
[00:14:34] recipient of support in Taiz before the army was formed and there
[00:14:38] was also support. And
[00:14:41] after that, I was an official spokesperson
[00:14:44] and a follower, and we were following up with
[00:14:47] our brothers here, and they were dropping ammunition and weapons by
[00:14:51] parachute when Taiz was besieged from all
[00:14:55] directions. And we did not fail them when we were
[00:14:58] appealing to them. Yes. Well, at this moment,
[00:15:01] President Abd Rabbu Mansour Hadi
[00:15:04] detention and head to Aden,
[00:15:08] and he was pursued by the Houthi militias.
[00:15:12] They pursued him to Aden province, and therefore,
[00:15:15] you also had another visit to President Abd Rabbu Mansour
[00:15:19] Hadi in Aden province. What exactly happened during this visit,
[00:15:23] and who did you meet with Abd Rabbu Mansour Hadi,
[00:15:27] and what happened during this visit?
[00:15:30] Yes, please. Many prominent figures
[00:15:34] attended. Of course, the idea
[00:15:37] was a pure idea because
[00:15:40] the gathering of Taiz notables,
[00:15:44] Brother Aref Jamil, who is now the Deputy Governor of Taiz
[00:15:48] province, addressed me and said, "Brother Muhammad, what do you think? I invite
[00:15:50] you to go down to Aden to meet the president
[00:15:54] and we will do." Our idea was, I mean, the idea
[00:15:56] initially was welcomed,
[00:15:58] and we started
[00:16:02] the Governor Shawqi Shawqi Ahmed
[00:16:06] Hayel Shawqi Ahmed. He was working with affection, but he
[00:16:09] was deceived by the military commanders who
[00:16:13] showed him loyalty, but at zero hour they
[00:16:16] told him, "We follow Sana'a."
[00:16:19] Okay, before this, before it
[00:16:22] arrived, we knew, and the point of
[00:16:25] disagreement in our point of view was that these people are liars
[00:16:29] and they will not keep their promises
[00:16:32] from the military commanders who showed
[00:16:35] him loyalty. But at the zero hour they
[00:16:39] told him, "We follow Sana'a."
[00:16:42] Okay, before this, before it arrived, we knew,
[00:16:46] and the point of disagreement in our point of view was that these
[00:16:49] people are liars and they will not
[00:16:54] This
[00:16:58] stagnation you are in. Finally, address your people
[00:17:00] and be frank with them, and the people will be with you,
[00:17:03] and you are the legitimate authority. Even the martyred
[00:17:07] Tawfiq Al-Shameeri wrote, and it was said
[00:17:10] and published in the newspapers. Al-Himyari said, "Receive." So
[00:17:13] I called and told them, "We didn't come down to air
[00:17:17] our dirty laundry. We came down to build." So I asked
[00:17:23] the... I mean, Tawfiq attacked you? No, he didn't attack us, he attacked the president.
[00:17:27] Yes, he attacked the president and praised me. Yes, in the presentation
[00:17:30] of Tawfiq Al-Shameeri,
[00:17:33] martyred later in the events. Okay,
[00:17:37] here is an important point about the reasons for the silence that was
[00:17:40] prevailing among all leaders, including the presidency,
[00:17:43] in your opinion.
[00:17:47] this strange silence?
[00:17:49] By God, I don't know if it's betrayal or
[00:17:53] the dispersion and fragmentation that is happening, everyone wanted to ambush
[00:17:56] the other, and everyone wanted
[00:17:59] to preserve their stature and strength
[00:18:03] and considered that the battle was not their battle.
[00:18:06] And they thought,
[00:18:09] from everyone. Yes, yes, when you informed President
[00:18:13] of the Republic, President Abdullah Bou Mansour Hadi, of the necessity
[00:18:17] of his addressing the people and talking about what was happening, what
[00:18:20] was the response of the President of the Republic? His response was
[00:18:24] that he was, at that time, like a drugged
[00:18:27] person, but he showed
[00:18:29] that, but they didn't give him time. On the same
[00:18:33] day, while we were in Aden, the planes moved to bomb him,
[00:18:37] and on the third day, he left,
[00:18:40] and we returned to Taiz. Okay, after you returned, they appointed
[00:18:43] you as an official spokesperson. So you were appointed as an official
[00:18:49] in the end, we were in Riyadh. Yes.
[00:18:51] Okay. After your return to Taiz
[00:18:54] province, and this delegation
[00:18:57] that visited the President of the Republic and met with the President of the Republic,
[00:19:01] what exactly happened after that? What were the things that happened?
[00:19:05] The facts, the events.
[00:19:07] After that, after a few days, the Houthis entered the Central
[00:19:11] Security. We went down and the Houthis did not enter Taiz, they entered the American
[00:19:14] Security. Of course, we met and the Houthis had
[00:19:18] representatives inside Taiz, they used to meet.
[00:19:20] We met at the Cultural
[00:19:23] Club,
[00:19:27] and we all agreed and united with a strong
[00:19:29] word. The governor of the province,
[00:19:33] Shawqi Shawqi Hayel Saeed.
[00:19:37] Shawqi Ahmed Hayel, who spoke
[00:19:40] that Taiz would only be with the Republic and would not allow
[00:19:44] the entry
[00:19:46] of militias and that Taiz must be spared this conflict.
[00:19:49] And the Houthi representatives,
[00:19:51] including Mughallis, withdrew. I mean, Samir
[00:19:55] Salim Mughallis, who gave
[00:19:59] the hall and were kicking and screaming. And we met many
[00:20:03] times
[00:20:05] with people representing them. And suddenly
[00:20:08] they, I mean, they considered
[00:20:11] that everything was in their hands. And Sadeq Abu
[00:20:15] Rass also came down to Taiz and said
[00:20:18] that he would, I mean, he would take Taiz with one
[00:20:22] or two teams, but he
[00:20:24] left barefoot
[00:20:28] from the province. I mean, as I told you,
[00:20:31] the situation was boiling, and the people were enthusiastic,
[00:20:34] and therefore, the killing of this child
[00:20:37] and his mother made
[00:20:41] them feel that it was for the sake of the homeland,
[00:20:43] and also, the victims, most
[00:20:47] of whom were civilians, and they were the incubator. This
[00:20:51] is the strength. Any steadfastness of Taiz
[00:20:54] is attributed to the people of Taiz province. Okay, before
[00:20:58] part, Professor Muhammad, I mean, a few
[00:21:01] days ago, there was a statement by the governor of Taiz
[00:21:05] province, Al-Maamari, and it angered
[00:21:09] some, and some also praised
[00:21:12] it. How did you follow this? I mean, he talked
[00:21:16] a lot about the details of the resistance and the situation of Taiz
[00:21:19] province. And he touched on many issues
[00:21:22] and events. How
[00:21:25] all? Or what
[00:21:28] bothered some about the statement of the governor
[00:21:32] of the province, Professor Al-Maamari?
[00:21:34] My brother Al-Maamari is my colleague, and he presented his point of view,
[00:21:38] and I don't comment on his point of view, whether I agree or disagree with him.
[00:21:41] Perhaps his memory failed him in some matters,
[00:21:44] just as my memory might fail me in some matters.
[00:21:47] And
[00:21:50] I mean, but Al-Maamari is still a resistant,
[00:21:54] a national man and has a stance from
[00:21:58] day one against the Houthi militias, and we all complete
[00:22:01] each other. Yes, I don't want an assessment of his words or his speech or a comment,
[00:22:05] but in your opinion, why did he upset
[00:22:09] some? I mean, he angered some. I mean, many
[00:22:12] talked and praised
[00:22:14] aspects, and some personalities
[00:22:17] spoke in a way that
[00:22:22] bothered, I mean, they were bothered by the governor's speech. In your opinion, why? What
[00:22:26] are the reasons? Look, perfection is for God, and supplements are
[00:22:29] one. Words must sometimes fall from
[00:22:32] him. Forgetting, perhaps. He overlooked some, rather many
[00:22:36] overlooked their role and did not mention it. And that's
[00:22:39] why I'm keen that everyone should be mentioned for their role, regardless
[00:22:43] of whether we agreed or disagreed with them.
[00:22:46] So Al-Maamari perhaps
[00:22:53] mind, like an event. Time
[00:22:57] caught up with us. Thank you very much, and we also thank you, dear
[00:23:00] viewers. We will suffice with
[00:23:03] this much in this part, and in the next episode,
[00:23:06] we will complete our conversation with
[00:23:09] Muqbil
[00:23:12] Al-Himyari, member of the House of Representatives
[00:23:15] and Minister of State for the Affairs of the House of Representatives
[00:23:18] and the Shura Council. Godspeed.
[00:23:42] Yemen Channel, the channel of all
[00:23:45] Yemenis.
[00:24:00] Our souls, our blood,
[00:24:04] we offer them to you, Yemen.
[00:24:06] Our loyalty, our morals,
[00:24:10] for the people of the homeland. Oh, giant
[00:24:14] in the pinnacle of history, purifier of tribulations,
[00:24:17] and maker of light. September
[00:24:21] of Sana'a and October of Aden.
[00:24:24] No, the greedy will not touch your greatness,
[00:24:28] and there is no place among us
[00:24:31] for the enemies of the homeland. And there is no one in
[00:24:34] our ranks who sows discord.
[00:24:37] Our souls, our blood,
[00:24:41] they will sacrifice
[00:24:42] for
[00:24:47] the Kaaba of the homeland.
[00:25:04] O protectors of the Republic,
[00:25:07] O members of our armed forces, O those who
[00:25:10] surround us.
[00:25:26] O protectors of the Republic,
[00:25:29] O members of our armed forces, O those who
[00:25:32] surround us with what preserves your legally acquired functional
[00:25:36] rights. I also affirm that our commitment to a safe
[00:25:39] return and a declared amnesty will remain open
[00:25:43] to all who lay down their weapons and stop
[00:25:46] fighting in the ranks of the militias and return to
[00:25:49] their families and homeland, according to the announced procedures.
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