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[00:00:40] it immediately gives one figure: 35 destroyed enemy UAV control points,
[00:00:44] that is, many control points that were hidden somewhere deep
[00:00:47] in the defense, now, because we are advancing, they are getting hit,
[00:00:51] that is, this gradual fire pocket is narrowing, and these
[00:00:55] control points are getting hit and accordingly, they can be destroyed much more
[00:00:58] easily. In addition, on that very map that Alexey
[00:01:02] showed, specifically with units, it's also clearly visible
[00:01:05] that there's a concentration, meaning we can see here
[00:01:09] how a significant number of units are concentrating along
[00:01:12] the eastern edge, so fewer of them can be seen to the west, well, in terms of density, and this
[00:01:16] is connected with the fact that the enemy does not stop very actively counterattacking,
[00:01:20] that is, also one of the main distinguishing reports specifically from the easterners - it is
[00:01:23] constant counterattacks by the enemy, about 15 per day, sometimes up to
[00:01:27] twenty, that is, here it is obvious.
[00:01:31] It is clear that very significant forces
[00:01:33] are concentrated, very great attempts are being made precisely in order to somehow
[00:01:37] push back, to use the terrain, the open
[00:01:40] field factor, to somehow drive in cars, just yesterday, about nine cars
[00:01:44] were burned during another counterattack by the Ukrainian Armed Forces, so
[00:01:48] here, of course, well, yes, there is an important point that there is a completely bare field, there are almost no
[00:01:51] forest belts, that is, it is almost a plain, this probably does not have
[00:01:55] a radical effect, last week the village of Zarnitsa was
[00:01:58] liberated. So now we are approaching
[00:02:01] Orekhovo, where there is a Red Well, there is a small
[00:02:05] forest plantation to the west, our fighters are already entering there, that is, again, the main
[00:02:09] logistics hub, of course, comes from Zaporozhye, but the other road is also important, which we
[00:02:12] are now gradually cutting off, well, and I think that over time we will finally
[00:02:16] trap the enemy there. Another important topic in our studio is war correspondent
[00:02:19] Alexandra Trofimova. Let's give Alexandra applause, colleagues, let's support her
[00:02:23] with a report from the UAV workshop, where the latest domestic
[00:02:26] developments and trophies are presented. Let's watch this.
[00:02:30] The M500 truck drone, manufactured
[00:02:33] by the Future Laboratory, was modified
[00:02:36] by us in accordance with the needs and
[00:02:38] realities of what we currently have on the front line. It's an excellent delivery vehicle,
[00:02:42] used to deliver provisions, medicines,
[00:02:46] and everything necessary to positions that are
[00:02:48] impossible or extremely dangerous to reach
[00:02:52] on foot. It carries up to 35 kg, we
[00:02:55] operate it up to 12 km, in general it allows
[00:02:59] to operate on a larger range, but we always consider
[00:03:02] that weather conditions may change, that in principle something
[00:03:06] may happen, we keep a reserve in order to
[00:03:10] bring it home, we have already modified it, so here is a protected
[00:03:13] GNSS antenna head, this is an
[00:03:16] enemy development, we restore them,
[00:03:19] rework them, we make them work against our enemy,
[00:03:23] this is the second trophy that will now be in operation,
[00:03:26] yes, this antenna was damaged, we will
[00:03:30] restore it, put it in order,
[00:03:33] install it on another drone, it will go to perform combat
[00:03:37] missions, also on a large one, of course, it is advisable
[00:03:40] to use this antenna on
[00:03:43] such drones. Alexandra, my eyes caught
[00:03:47] the antenna, I just, unfortunately, don't understand anything about these drones, not
[00:03:51] professionally at your level, but what kind of antenna is it, is it
[00:03:54] enemy, is it a trophy, is it ours or
[00:03:57] what? We have similar developments,
[00:04:00] but thanks to the enemy, who, as
[00:04:04] we, by the way, found out in this report, very carelessly launches
[00:04:07] his drones, we get a lot of
[00:04:10] trophies, and of course, we put them to use. Specifically, in
[00:04:14] the footage, it's a captured GNSS antenna,
[00:04:18] the principle of operation is such that it saves the life of the
[00:04:22] UAV operator, he can program the drone
[00:04:25] for launch from cover, and then remain in
[00:04:28] cover, the drone itself will perform the flight, hit
[00:04:32] the necessary target, deliver the cargo, whatever we enter,
[00:04:35] it will do it, the launch point is not read at that moment, no,
[00:04:38] moreover, again, this 11th Army Corps, I visit them
[00:04:42] stably several times a week, every time I come, something
[00:04:45] new appears, after this filming
[00:04:49] a few days later, we went to see how they launch such
[00:04:52] large drones, and the guys told us, we learned to remotely
[00:04:56] transfer control to each other, that is, you can launch
[00:04:59] a drone from the dining area and transfer
[00:05:02] control to other points. Regarding
[00:05:05] the M500 truck drone, it is identified as a delivery
[00:05:08] vehicle, yes, it is mainly a delivery vehicle, because it has a large carrying capacity.
[00:05:12] The stated capacity is generally up to 50 kg, but optimally, considering
[00:05:15] certain risks and difficulties
[00:05:19] on the way, the guys launch 35 kg,
[00:05:22] supplying positions. The Ukrainian Armed Forces are now ceasing
[00:05:26] to supply their positions, so by supply we mean both
[00:05:30] weapons and water, and food, and medicine, yes, that
[00:05:34] is, now the enemy, well, in our sector of the front, in
[00:05:37] the sector of the "North" group of forces, is starting
[00:05:41] to make just one point of supply, where
[00:05:44] units have to spend time walking there, for example, 12
[00:05:47] km back and forth, just to pick up a bottle of water, and it
[00:05:51] may not even be there at that moment. We are now
[00:05:54] provided with such high-capacity drones,
[00:05:58] quality ones, plus specifically in this workshop of the 11th Army
[00:06:02] Corps, Vampires are already mass-produced, there are so
[00:06:04] many of them that they are already produced almost like their own
[00:06:07] drones, they bring spare parts, reassemble them,
[00:06:11] according to the task somehow...
[00:06:42] Starlink disconnects and the drone falls, he says: everything
[00:06:46] we launched, everything fell down, we collected them, but
[00:06:50] the enemy no longer launches them, either they understood the mistakes,
[00:06:54] or these drones ran out, and the guys said that
[00:06:57] there is no point in redoing them, because there are their own
[00:07:00] analogues, good ones, because we don't
[00:07:03] fly on Starlink, but as it turned out, not all flights on
[00:07:06] Starlink are high-quality, thank you very much, applause to you,
[00:07:09] Alexey, a brief summary, we took it from you. I will go into the topic
[00:07:13] of drones, I will note that Sasha told us,
[00:07:16] dear colleague,
[00:07:19] the war has changed, everything will be told by the war, yes, Alexander,
[00:07:22] thank you,
[00:07:24] the war has changed, so everyone says that there will be drones that will burn out the entire
[00:07:28] battlefield, in fact, everything is becoming more complicated, the use of drones is becoming maximally
[00:07:31] complicated, that is, we see that operators now remotely
[00:07:35] control the drone, no longer being next to the launchers, the launchers are several
[00:07:38] kilometers away, why, because there is destruction.
[00:07:50] The guys just sat under a tree, threw the antenna, raised it,
[00:07:54] immediately, raised the quadcopter, immediately launched it, it doesn't work like that anymore, that's
[00:07:57] it, it's over, and now the most important element of the battlefield, as Sasha
[00:08:00] correctly noted, is the number of destroyed UAV control points,
[00:08:04] that is, it's a war, specifically now, if there used to be
[00:08:07] counter-battery warfare, then now it's counter-drone warfare, which
[00:08:11] consists not only in the destruction of drones in the air, but also
[00:08:14] in hitting control points, shelling
[00:08:17] positions from where drones are launched, and we
[00:08:20] see that what if the drone
[00:08:24] stops, if you correctly organize such a combat system,
[00:08:28] counter, drones cease to be such an ultimate
[00:08:31] weapon, about which everyone says that now everything will be burned out on the battlefield,
[00:08:35] destroy antennas, suppress control points, conduct
[00:08:38] artillery-mortar fire on locations from where crews can launch.
[00:09:14] Oh, brave new cyberworld, why did the heads
[00:09:17] of artificial intelligence development companies simultaneously issue
[00:09:21] warnings, and can it become more dangerous than nuclear
[00:09:24] weapons? What needs to be done right now to
[00:09:28] mitigate the threat and prevent technology from getting out of control?
[00:09:31] What sovereign cybersecurity systems should
[00:09:34] be created? All details from Ruslan
[00:09:36] Makarov.
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[00:13:56] This is a live broadcast and we continue. Well, artificial
[00:13:59] intelligence can subdue the internet in six months
[00:14:03] or a year, said Dario Amodei, CEO of the American
[00:14:07] technology company Anthropic. There's a video, let's
[00:14:10] watch it. I'm not going to lie to you, there are real
[00:14:14] dangers and I think that for too long the industry
[00:14:17] has deceived people by hiding the fact that this technology
[00:14:20] has risks. The idea was to present
[00:14:24] it in the most.
[00:14:55] human, of course, and we will always take
[00:14:58] the necessary steps, even if this means pausing model training
[00:15:02] for a while to make more progress
[00:15:06] in aligning AI with human goals,
[00:15:09] the ability to control its operation or in other
[00:15:12] areas, perhaps coordination and
[00:15:15] urgent international measures will be required. We
[00:15:18] will discuss this topic with the Rector of the Institute of Digital Economy, Ruslan
[00:15:22] Makarov. Please come to the main chair. Yes. Applause,
[00:15:25] colleagues, support him. Ruslan, can I ask
[00:15:29] a quick question first, are you
[00:15:31] scared? No, no, that's it, then we can
[00:15:35] delve into the topic. Today, Trump called one of the big
[00:15:39] players in the field of intelligence, right during
[00:15:43] some very big event, there were a lot of guests,
[00:15:47] he called, the person put him on speakerphone, well,
[00:15:50] Trump first joked that for 10 years no one could put
[00:15:54] him on speakerphone, and you did it, everyone
[00:15:57] was afraid, but you were not afraid, yes, he immediately
[00:16:00] started saying, yes, all this, yes, all this is
[00:16:04] a fake, everything... artificial intelligence, they
[00:18:16] are in twelfth place in the
[00:18:20] world, in twelfth place, in terms of
[00:18:23] investments in technology, they are in first
[00:18:26] place. Ruslan, look, we are now discussing everything so loftily, but let me
[00:18:30] give you a few examples of how artificial intelligence so badly
[00:18:34] affects the younger generation, because I found.
[00:19:07] And here's the question: how are they going to regulate it if, even after such
[00:19:11] cases, shareholders, CEOs
[00:19:14] say: "Well, we can't do anything, we will restrict access
[00:19:18] to minors." Look, besides restricting access,
[00:19:21] all of this has, firstly, hardware, and secondly, it
[00:19:25] has certain software conditions of the primary code, and so on
[00:19:28] and so forth. And first of all, artificial intelligence today
[00:19:32] has begun to be considered at the level of cybersecurity, global
[00:19:36] cybersecurity, both state and general global.
[00:19:38] Cybersecurity used to be about protecting ourselves from
[00:19:41] hackers, including combat hackers. We protect ourselves
[00:19:45] from a certain virus of one or another
[00:19:48] digital product that violates our sovereign
[00:19:51] histories, both in the state and in
[00:19:54] the individual. Now artificial intelligence has integrated
[00:19:57] into this whole story, and naturally, hackers, who have money,
[00:20:01] were the first to use artificial intelligence to commit
[00:20:04] some malicious acts in their lives. And here
[00:20:08] is a very important point, because today, and this is
[00:20:11] official global statistics,
[00:20:14] every fourth quality global hack,
[00:20:18] that is, that malicious product that penetrated to the consumer
[00:20:21] level or violated the state system, was made
[00:20:25] with the help of artificial intelligence, this is it, but not by artificial
[00:20:28] intelligence, but with its help, it is important to understand this, this is the first thing.
[00:20:32] Secondly, that today products made with
[00:20:35] the help of artificial intelligence... in total, have caused
[00:20:39] damage to the world economy of 10.5
[00:20:42] trillion dollars, this is
[00:20:45] official statistics, and accordingly,
[00:20:48] the cyber war, which...
[00:21:20] to little Iranian girls, there, aged from
[00:21:23] 10 to 17, a monstrous catastrophe,
[00:21:27] declares, then, the Palantir competitor, that
[00:21:31] "we warned you, this is the problem we are
[00:21:34] talking about." Why then doesn't their precedent law initiate
[00:21:38] a specific criminal process, what do you think? Well, because everything
[00:21:41] is rigged there, how will they judge themselves, what, how will they
[00:21:45] judge themselves? You are talking about this school in Iran
[00:21:48] that was bombed in March.
[00:22:20] They just bombed it in one strike, killed 500 people, all the women, children,
[00:22:23] old people, just killed everyone, by the way, I still
[00:22:26] don't understand, did they kill this Hamas or not, it's not certain they killed him, there's a scandal
[00:22:30] now, Israel is going to deprive its own citizens of citizenship, because
[00:22:34] they told the truth, yes, because they said that the IDF
[00:22:38] fought using artificial intelligence, well, how is
[00:22:41] this interesting, will anyone judge the IDF, I think no one will judge him, listen, even
[00:22:44] Trump particularly, you know, he opposes slowing down artificial intelligence, he sort
[00:22:48] of listened to the statements. Trump uses artificial intelligence
[00:22:52] from three years ago, it's clear that it's scary to slow down, then
[00:22:55] there will be no graininess, everything will be fine,
[00:22:59] Darina, a very important point, I constantly
[00:23:02] repeat it, like a stuck
[00:23:05] record, no number, no matter
[00:23:08] what it is, with artificial intelligence, without artificial intelligence, has no
[00:23:12] empathy, it doesn't care about a person,
[00:23:16] about functionality, about subsequent actions, have you seen Terminator?
[00:23:30] There's also a liquid Terminator, yes, there are
[00:23:33] many of them, actually, literally a Terminator, yes - everything that
[00:23:36] is happening today in general cybersecurity
[00:23:40] is also related to artificial intelligence, two vectors
[00:23:43] have simply appeared, virology, everything
[00:23:47] around hacking work, a vector with...
[00:24:50] to believe, especially the Israelis, who just caught
[00:24:53] an attack that was on Taiwan, and did Taiwan authorize to catch
[00:24:57] the attack? No, it's an absolutely autonomous Israeli
[00:25:00] AI system that suddenly detected an attack on Taiwan,
[00:25:03] I'd say, I believe that today, in the information field, we live with
[00:25:07] absolute fabrications from the USA and Israel, they are very
[00:25:11] far ahead of us in terms of applying the system, they rule
[00:25:14] the whole world, yes, even the European Union is
[00:25:17] afraid of the Americans, according to official statistics, they say 75% of all
[00:25:21] AI developments are in the USA, 5% in the European Union, which is concentrated
[00:25:24] only on identifying its own protection, and these are attacking,
[00:25:28] so, when they start talking about where AI is going,
[00:25:31] that they need to be limited, we are living in yesterday, they are already
[00:25:35] there, they are already attacking, they have already entered state
[00:25:39] networks, they are like sleeping agents who are ready
[00:25:42] to commit terrorism, it's all the same already there, so we need to take
[00:25:46] an axe and cut the cable that connects
[00:26:04] the USA is my precious, China says, let whoever wants it take it, yes, yes, yes, and we see that
[00:26:08] the positions of many American chatbots, and all the rest,
[00:26:11] are gradually sagging, because the Chinese are capturing this market, so yes, the Americans
[00:26:15] have motivation, they feel that they are starting to lose in this artificial
[00:26:19] intelligence race, an attempt to impose on China and everyone else to slow down in this
[00:26:22] progress, especially since there are big problems within America, as we see,
[00:26:26] a shortage of electricity due to the fact that a lot of data centers are being built,
[00:26:30] so this will also manifest itself further.
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