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[00:00:11] there was a very similar situation last year, one example is
[00:00:15] the already mentioned Oval Office and the squabble with Pence and Trump,
[00:00:18] the second example is Anchorage, where our president met with Donald Trump
[00:00:22] in Alaska, and then the same thing happened,
[00:00:26] European leaders cut off all calls to the White House.
[00:00:29] They just all ganged up on
[00:00:32] Trump, started harassing him, then
[00:00:36] delegations came in both cases from Europe, precisely such direct
[00:00:39] emissaries of the European Union, who again poured the necessary
[00:00:42] water into Donald Trump's ears, and literally a few days later
[00:00:46] Zelensky arrives there, it happened like that both times
[00:00:49] for an audience, they talk to him in a completely
[00:00:52] different format, they promise a new something for
[00:00:55] patriots, new weapons and so on, that is, we shouldn't.
[00:00:58] должнывать.
[00:01:30] Therefore, Trump broke through a certain gap in this general
[00:01:33] Russophobia of the collective West, but we will not
[00:01:36] believe him, because he never answers for his words. Vera, please, it's a bit
[00:01:40] strange to me that everyone is talking about Zelensky being so shocked,
[00:01:44] stunned that Trump talked to
[00:01:47] Putin and made such a decision, because in fact Trump warned
[00:01:50] him, called him, explained,
[00:01:54] said that there was no need to strike Russian oil refineries, there was no need to do
[00:01:57] this, moreover, American officials called
[00:02:01] literally 2-3 days before Trump's conversation
[00:02:04] with Putin, all of
[00:02:07] Zelensky's
[00:02:09] comrades and said the same thing: stop, don't
[00:02:13] do it, you need to stop this, well, the person didn't
[00:02:16] understand, it happens, they explained it to him, no, well, fine, then
[00:02:20] a question immediately arises, why did the Ukrainian delegation run away so abruptly on the second day,
[00:02:32] undoubtedly, both for the American side and for the Ukrainian
[00:02:36] side, we heard this just now, this is a show,
[00:02:39] undoubtedly, these actions of the Ukrainian side, the Ukrainian delegation, are
[00:02:43] also an element of a show, an element of stomping your foot, we don't agree,
[00:02:46] accordingly, there were no agreements with us and so on, although I absolutely
[00:02:50] agree here that the Ukrainian side, Zelensky,
[00:02:53] and his entourage knew all this, they knew what was coming and that
[00:02:57] sooner or later Trump would raise this issue, maybe not in the context. diesel, maybe some other
[00:03:01] plot, but one way or another it will be raised, this minor
[00:03:04] tone that now exists in relations between Trump and Zelensky, I believe,
[00:03:08] is rather the norm than those exceptions that were there, flashes
[00:03:12] of some, well, not love, but friendship and hugs and so on, that is, what
[00:03:16] we are observing now is undoubtedly the norm, the question is
[00:03:19] that Trump plays this card when he needs to put pressure either on
[00:03:23] the Ukrainian delegation, or accordingly on the Russian side, to somehow
[00:03:26] bring the parties to some kind of truce, as he believes.
[00:04:00] to retaliate, well, he can go far,
[00:04:03] exactly to the extent that the American
[00:04:07] political system allows him, because the President of the United States is not,
[00:04:10] fortunately or unfortunately, an absolute monarch, yes, if
[00:04:14] it were his will, he would have, in
[00:04:17] general, this creature from the crooked
[00:04:20] horn, I don't even want to say his name, because it seems to me that we simply pay too much attention to him, yes, he would have
[00:04:24] mixed him with dirt a long time ago, in fact, what
[00:04:27] happened in the Oval Office, in late February last...
[00:05:00] America, Canada as a separate state, and Mexico as a separate state, there is a will for
[00:05:04] this, but simply to give a public slap for a person
[00:05:07] not watching his words, he is not given the will, and you know why,
[00:05:11] because this creature in the
[00:05:14] eyes of the United, well, part of the United States, and the West as such,
[00:05:18] is this very notorious new Churchill, who
[00:05:21] opposes a terrible existential threat, well, Churchill was an educated
[00:05:25] person, well, I think that he turns in his grave every time this
[00:05:28] creature is called the new Churchill, yes, Zelensky is directly convinced that he
[00:05:32] is the reincarnation of Churchill, by the way,
[00:05:36] Alexey, I would support the general pessimistic tone
[00:05:39] on this matter, and we have no optimism. well, not quite, maybe
[00:05:43] you shouldn't fall into euphoria about the decision of this
[00:05:47] statement analysis, about
[00:05:49] Trump's statement, Alexey, I apologize, let me ask you a question then,
[00:05:53] so that we don't have euphoria, so that we don't get into an assessment of our emotions,
[00:05:57] into an assessment of the real situation, is Zelensky really such a boor
[00:06:00] or do Europeans tell him: this person needs to be taken on
[00:06:03] emotions, he makes mistakes when
[00:06:06] he emotionally comments on this or that situation, so
[00:06:09] push him, here's your hook. go personal, publish what will
[00:06:13] definitely hurt him, or can
[00:06:16] they really not even control him, and he writes whatever he wants on his
[00:06:19] social networks, Zelensky is really a boor, I
[00:06:23] apologize for saying this, it's not
[00:06:26] even about that, Zelensky is a professional comedian, and
[00:06:29] not a very high-quality comedian, one of
[00:06:33] the recent, just the other day, messages, he says: why are you negotiating with
[00:06:36] Russia about diesel, you need to negotiate with me, it's me who controls the
[00:06:40] Black Sea.
[00:06:42] passages of tankers across the Black Sea, it's me who controls Russian oil refineries, write
[00:06:46] to me, that is, he tried to make such a gag, that is, to joke at
[00:06:49] Trump's expense, not quite understanding that they are in different leagues with him, but that's not even the
[00:06:53] point, you Nikolai said absolutely correctly, if Trump wanted to
[00:06:56] pressure him, forgetting about everything, forgetting about Congress,
[00:07:00] about American politics, about America's help to the USA, forgetting about
[00:07:03] Europe, one simple thing, about which he mentioned, but for some reason they don't pressure
[00:07:07] this, but you just go out and say that Zelensky is an illegitimate president,
[00:07:11] start every day. repeat that elections must be held in Ukraine, and you will
[00:07:15] squeeze him, but for some reason the USA does not do this,
[00:07:18] it has already begun, he already came out and said that elections, and
[00:07:22] there were two, two statements, and what did he do 2 years before
[00:07:25] that, no, look, I remember
[00:07:28] the story about him ending many wars, he's about
[00:07:32] to end the next one, every day, he also said, this war
[00:07:36] should not have happened, if I were president, what else
[00:07:39] is there, it sounded for a long time. about
[00:07:42] 24 hours, that is, such hashtags, there is
[00:07:46] hope that on Saturday a new hashtag was born from
[00:07:49] the saying that Zelensky must hold elections, but you
[00:07:53] rightly said what he didn't say, he didn't say to hold elections, he said Ukraine must
[00:07:56] get a new president, Zelensky could have done this many times, he can
[00:08:00] resign, no, that's clear, but he didn't say the main word, that
[00:08:03] Zelensky is illegitimate,
[00:08:13] and stop selling weapons, will the USA be able to
[00:08:16] carry out its threats, if so, what will
[00:08:20] Zelensky be left with, how many satellites do the EU and Britain have, what is
[00:08:24] the quality of their intelligence, and does Europe have an analogue of the
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[00:12:50] as a gift. We said, do whatever you want with the Russian
[00:12:53] Federation, just don't hit oil refineries,
[00:12:57] because this creates a global problem, and
[00:13:00] Zelensky wants to create problems for the whole world, he wants to create problems
[00:13:04] with diesel fuel for our farmers, our livestock breeders, because Russia
[00:13:08] supplies a significant part of diesel worldwide, and we told
[00:13:11] him: do whatever you want, but don't touch diesel fuel, because
[00:13:15] there will be a big problem, a big shortage, and what does he do, he
[00:13:18] goes and hits diesel, he can do whatever he wants, but this
[00:13:22] cannot be done. The USA threatened to cut off
[00:13:26] weapons and intelligence supplies to Ukraine if Kyiv does not stop striking Russian
[00:13:30] oil refineries, reports the Financial Times, also according to the publication,
[00:13:33] the Trump administration warned Kyiv and European capitals about the possibility
[00:13:37] of blocking the mechanism through which
[00:13:40] American weapons are purchased for the Ukrainian Armed Forces. American officials
[00:13:44] called European allies and Ukrainian leadership
[00:13:47] over the weekend, seeking an end to attacks on Russian
[00:13:50] oil refining infrastructure. And here's what journalist
[00:13:53] BILD Paul Ronzheimer, who is in Kyiv, writes. I
[00:13:57] quote: Numerous telephone conversations are underway with
[00:14:00] European partners. The main concern is that Trump will actually
[00:14:03] cease intelligence cooperation. At the same time, the US President
[00:14:07] demands an end to Ukrainian strikes on oil and gas facilities. One of
[00:14:11] Zelensky's close advisors told me. We understood that during
[00:14:14] the election campaign before the midterm elections to Congress, we would again
[00:14:17] be in the spotlight, but we did not expect
[00:14:20] this. Well, yes, I just want to ask, what did they expect
[00:14:24] then? They immediately asked to stop the strike and those who
[00:14:27] supply them with weapons and intelligence data asked for it, the reaction was just teasing in
[00:14:31] return, but this is biting the hand that feeds
[00:14:34] you, what will happen if the USA really disconnects Ukraine from
[00:14:47] side a massive amount of operational and tactical data
[00:14:50] from various sources. First of all, this is satellite intelligence and the transfer
[00:14:54] of high-precision images of the earth's surface to Kyiv, including
[00:14:57] those taken in the infrared range. The US also
[00:15:01] provides Ukraine with ready-made data packages for strikes
[00:15:04] with long-range weapons and drones on Russian territory
[00:15:07] outside the zone of the special military operation, for example, Palantir
[00:15:11] technologies, which the enemy tries to integrate into the planning of long-range
[00:15:14] attacks deep into Russian territory, calculating routes for Ukrainian
[00:15:18] aircraft-type UAVs and high-precision missiles.
[00:15:21] The US also finances and coordinates the transfer of data
[00:15:25] from private American aerospace companies, for example Maxar and
[00:15:29] Planet Labs. If America completely stops transferring
[00:15:32] intelligence information to Ukraine, this will be one of the most
[00:15:35] serious challenges for Kyiv. Zelensky and K would solve
[00:15:39] this problem through expanding cooperation with European
[00:15:42] countries. For example, Great Britain is a key European SIGINT hub,
[00:15:46] and its reconnaissance aircraft patrol the airspace
[00:15:50] over the Black Sea and Eastern Europe. France
[00:15:53] provides Kyiv with high-precision images from its military
[00:15:56] satellites. Germany and Italy also transmit
[00:15:59] radar satellite
[00:16:02] surveillance information. Alexander, look, the famous architect
[00:16:06] of color revolutions, here I will even read it so as not to make a mistake, Henri Levy
[00:16:10] says that you don't need to anger Trump, so maybe you really don't need to
[00:16:13] anger Trump, well, you understand, again, Trump,
[00:16:17] he is a figure despite all the authority of this
[00:16:20] figure, he is a temporary figure, and Zelensky and
[00:16:23] his European curators, they are playing out several
[00:16:27] scenarios at once, in their subjective opinion,
[00:16:30] the scenario after November 2026, the current
[00:16:34] year, when Trump may get a very serious...
[00:16:48] a new history of relations
[00:16:52] between the US, Ukraine, and European partners will unfold, in which, again, in
[00:16:55] their subjective opinion, they will take a more
[00:16:58] positive component, as it was during the Biden administration,
[00:17:01] but it must be understood that Trump is
[00:17:05] still more of a businessman.
[00:18:02] use modern weapons produced by NATO
[00:18:05] countries, if the USA.
[00:18:49] But on the other hand, what will the Kyiv regime have in reserve? In reserve, the Kyiv regime will have
[00:18:52] the work of British reconnaissance aircraft, which is very
[00:18:56] serious, and the work of
[00:18:59] radar stations located in Europe, including already in
[00:19:03] the territory of the north-eastern borders of Europe,
[00:19:06] which...
[00:20:07] an interesting fact is that Peter Thiel promotes and shares Trump's
[00:20:10] ideas, while Alex Karp on the contrary,
[00:20:13] promotes the ideas of the Kyiv regime, with Mikhail Fedorov, with the ex-Minister
[00:20:17] of Defense, he is just trying to cooperate, the question is how they can
[00:20:21] find, in essence, two people who manage this Palantir, how they can
[00:20:24] find understanding, what to do, one establishes external communications, the other
[00:20:28] is engaged in developing the market for his products, quite
[00:20:32] normal, by the way, such a scenario for two large
[00:20:35] figures of one commercial company,
[00:20:37] I would pay attention, will there be no conflict between them, well, you know, Palantir's capitalization
[00:20:41] increased by 20 times in about 5 years, from 20
[00:20:45] to 400 billion, oh, million dollars,
[00:20:48] billion.
[00:20:58] for years to come, but on the other hand, notice that a number of European
[00:21:02] countries have started to cause trouble regarding
[00:21:05] Palantir, that is, they are afraid that
[00:21:08] national American intelligence systems
[00:21:11] will replace those specialists, those
[00:21:15] systems that were developed by European specialists, that is, they will
[00:21:18] essentially push them out. alliances, that is, they will
[00:21:22] continue to sell more expensive content for more expensive money, because
[00:21:25] Palantir is all about money, you
[00:21:28] have to pay for everything, nobody shares information for free, no, Alexander,
[00:21:32] yes, I am wrong before you, 438 billion
[00:21:35] dollars, yes, oh wow, how fast other people's
[00:21:39] capitalization grows,
[00:21:46] Starlink, Musk says, following Trump's statements. How much
[00:24:30] weakening, well, to the extent that it does not threaten the interests
[00:24:34] of the United States, because, of course, the collapse of Russia into many nuclear, as it were,
[00:24:37] small states, which Bush was afraid of at the time, when
[00:24:41] Bush Sr. flew to Kyiv then, yes, this was
[00:24:45] during the collapse of the Soviet Union, this
[00:24:48] ghost is still terrifying for them, but
[00:24:52] a situation in which Russia weakens, Europe weakens, as it were, and the United
[00:24:56] States increases, increases its influence on world events, including
[00:25:00] on the energy market, this suits them very well, of course, fine,
[00:25:04] another question, can Europeans, for example, replace US aid
[00:25:18] USA that pays for Starlink
[00:25:20] for Ukraine, Poland and
[00:25:24] the European Union pay for Starlink for Ukraine. I apologize, Apple Pay also, some people from another country were paying for me,
[00:25:28] I paid for it, but they blocked it for me. I
[00:25:31] paid in the car so that a certain program would work for me, but
[00:25:35] they, despite the fact that I had paid in full for
[00:25:38] several years in advance, they blocked it for me. Here it's not
[00:25:41] a question of who pays, if you have the will and
[00:25:45] leverage, then press it.
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[00:27:32] Zelensky's team, until Zelensky changes his mind, we are seizing all this money,
[00:27:36] and as for Caesar, senators will come for him and
[00:27:39] stab him immediately, the first will be
[00:27:43] Umerov, then Arakhamia, everyone who
[00:27:52] American elections, how the diesel deal will affect
[00:27:56] the results of the midterm elections, will Donald Trump be able to
[00:27:59] maintain Russian supplies in case of a Democratic victory
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