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[00:00:00] somewhere he will be able to show his
[00:00:02] character, his determination, possibly to achieve
[00:00:06] some additional results, then this is obviously foreign
[00:00:09] policy. Note that when now all analysts
[00:00:13] in unison say that Trump failed first
[00:00:16] of all due to failures in the Iranian
[00:00:19] direction, the topic of Russia, the topic
[00:00:23] of Ukraine is not mentioned at all, that is, what he
[00:00:26] did in the Russian direction, what he did not do in the Ukrainian
[00:00:30] direction is not blamed on him in
[00:00:33] any way by anyone, and for me this is a sign that he will be in
[00:00:37] this particular direction, unlike the Iranian one, to show
[00:00:40] consistency and even greater rigidity, especially
[00:00:43] since from my point of view he will now definitely consider
[00:00:46] both Zelensky and most European
[00:00:50] leaders his opponents, and maybe
[00:00:53] even enemies, because they obviously played on the Democrats' side against
[00:00:56] Trump and...
[00:01:18] Even a change of majority in both chambers does not guarantee a return to the policies of Joe Biden's time. The reason is not only
[00:01:22] Donald Trump's position, but also the exhaustion of American
[00:01:26] military stocks, the conflict with Iran and the change
[00:01:30] of the voters themselves, and what, in your opinion, will determine the volume
[00:01:34] of American aid to Ukraine and what can change the Democrats
[00:01:38] who have now gained the majority in Congress? Yes, look,
[00:01:42] the fact that the Democrats have a majority in Congress actually means that they
[00:01:45] will have significantly greater responsibility for the state
[00:01:49] of the American economy and, accordingly, the American
[00:01:51] budget. The leaders of various branches of government in the USA
[00:01:55] are changing roles, and now Trump will have
[00:01:58] the opportunity to complain
[00:02:00] to the Democratic Congress, to both chambers, that they are not letting him
[00:02:04] work, that they are violating the budget balance,
[00:02:07] that they are giving unjustified promises, in
[00:02:11] particular regarding further support for Ukraine, and this
[00:02:14] support, after some time, will already be deprived
[00:02:18] of any ideological or
[00:02:20] geopolitical flair, returning to earth, and
[00:02:24] the volume of this aid, answering your question, will depend
[00:02:27] solely on the capabilities
[00:02:30] of the American budget. The American budget is currently unbalanced, the American
[00:02:33] budget is currently simply mired in
[00:02:37] payments, payment of debts, 1.4
[00:02:40] trillion dollars annually goes only to
[00:02:43] service the US national debt. Here,
[00:02:47] as they say, it's not about Ukraine, in my opinion, especially since
[00:02:50] the Iranian plot is still unpredictable, and if
[00:02:53] something will extract money from the American budget, then
[00:02:57] it's the Middle East before Ukraine, I suspect.
[00:03:30] The President states that he is ready to work with the new Congress
[00:03:33] and promises to find common ground with opponents. The defeat of
[00:03:36] the Republicans also calls into question his influence within his own
[00:03:40] party, but Trump intends to negotiate on his
[00:03:44] terms. On social media, he published a photo of a
[00:03:47] red cap, with the word "veto" instead of the
[00:03:50] usual MAGA slogan. This is the right of the president to reject bills
[00:03:54] passed by Congress. To overcome such a
[00:03:57] ban, 2/3 of the votes are needed. A simple
[00:04:01] majority is not enough for the Democrats, and
[00:04:04] this is what Trump is counting on. They will send
[00:04:07] me bills, and I will veto them. And in
[00:04:11] the end, after a month or two, when all their
[00:04:14] initiatives are rejected, they will understand that it's just a waste
[00:04:18] of time. Then they will come to me, and we
[00:04:21] will agree. I think, most likely, that's exactly what will
[00:04:25] happen. But I hope that we won't have to worry about
[00:04:28] it at all. Well, what will the Democrats respond with?
[00:04:32] Most likely, they will also start blocking Trump's
[00:04:35] initiatives, they may start an investigation against him and even
[00:04:39] launch an impeachment. Konstantinovich, I want to
[00:04:42] ask you about impeachment, despite the fact that the Democrats
[00:04:46] clearly do not have enough votes to carry it out,
[00:04:50] yes, but nevertheless they can shower
[00:04:53] the current president with accusations and so on. I am
[00:04:57] interested in the Russian-Ukrainian
[00:05:00] track, because, of course, Trump's role
[00:05:02] in a possible settlement, it can
[00:05:06] be significant in the settlement of the Russian-Ukrainian
[00:05:09] conflict. Do you believe that the Democrats can announce?
[00:06:12] President JD Vance, so the fuss around impeachment
[00:06:16] will be mandatory, but the impeachment itself, according to my predictions, will not
[00:06:19] happen under any circumstances. The Democrats have not yet
[00:06:23] started working in the new Congress, but they
[00:06:26] are already indicating who they intend to question. Here's
[00:06:30] what Hillary Clinton says, a short fragment of her
[00:06:32] interview. People like Elon Musk
[00:06:36] need government oversight, and I believe that starting in
[00:06:39] January, with the new composition of Congress.
[00:07:22] that is, to perceive this situation as a transfer of power from the president to Congress
[00:07:25] would be absolutely wrong, and the president remains in power, and
[00:07:29] Congress remains in power, they retain their
[00:07:31] powers, but each of these powers is very
[00:07:35] specific and they balance each other, so even
[00:07:38] if it comes to Congress's demands
[00:07:41] to open a case against Musk, to send
[00:07:44] Secretary of Defense Hexet into retirement, about which
[00:07:47] much is also being said now, to hold Mark Rubio accountable, for
[00:07:51] what is happening in Latin America, all this is quite possible, but
[00:07:55] the President of the United States of America is still Mr. Trump,
[00:07:59] he has every opportunity to protect his people
[00:08:02] and exempt them from criminal liability at least, but
[00:08:06] probably from political responsibility, yes, we just
[00:08:09] witnessed such a situation with Hunter Biden, what more
[00:08:13] can I say, but in your opinion, still, his role on the
[00:08:16] foreign policy circuit is very important, in your
[00:08:20] opinion, what do the election results change, say, in the dialogue between Moscow and
[00:08:23] Washington, and now, what to expect, for example, from
[00:08:27] tripartite negotiations on Ukraine in
[00:08:30] Abu Dhabi? Well, from my point of view, it would
[00:08:33] be completely wrong for us, from the Russian side, to react
[00:08:36] to what is happening inside the USA, this
[00:08:40] is still an internal American
[00:08:43] story, we worked and will work with the current
[00:08:47] US President, we will work with Congress, if and when
[00:08:51] Congress shows interest in restoring
[00:08:54] inter-parliamentary dialogue, so here, from my point of view, at least as far as
[00:08:58] the Russian side is concerned, nothing should change,
[00:09:02] it will be harder for Trump himself now, because
[00:09:05] for the previous 2 years he took responsibility for
[00:09:09] developing some compromises, for that...
[00:10:18] The only thing they offer others is fear of
[00:10:21] the left and mass migration, but this could not stop either
[00:10:25] of them. One of the few exceptions to this
[00:10:28] trend is the German AfD, which, in response to the conflict
[00:10:31] in Iran and absurd statements about Greenland, announced the restoration
[00:10:35] of German sovereignty. What do voters actually expect from
[00:10:39] right-wing parties on both sides of the Atlantic? I
[00:10:42] would suggest that this comment by the Irish
[00:10:45] blogger be slightly modified, if you replace
[00:10:48] "right-wing" with "centrists", in fact
[00:10:51] the meaning of his analysis will not change. We can say
[00:10:55] that centrists are losing everywhere, that they cannot
[00:10:58] offer anything to young people except to instill
[00:11:01] fear of the left and of the right. In fact, this
[00:11:05] problem for the West is now key. Traditional
[00:11:09] politicians still have little to offer in both domestic and
[00:11:13] foreign policy, excuse the tautology. This is
[00:11:16] where the growing popularity of the left and right comes from. I would
[00:11:20] certainly not draw any far-reaching conclusions, for example
[00:11:24] from... Orbán's defeat in Hungary. This is not so much a defeat
[00:11:27] of right-wing populism, it is the elimination of dissent
[00:11:31] within the European Union, within NATO. Orbán was simply
[00:11:35] dealt with, so to speak, by his more senior and more
[00:11:38] influential comrades. And if we look at France now,
[00:11:41] well, there is the opposite trend there. Ms.
[00:11:44] Le Pen is now the absolute leader in all
[00:11:47] polls for the elections that are coming next year. Therefore,
[00:11:51] I would definitely not generalize. I believe that the West as a whole
[00:11:55] is currently in a deep ideological crisis, first
[00:11:57] and foremost, and none of, well, let's say
[00:12:01] traditional or semi-traditional political forces can
[00:12:05] offer the population any coherent
[00:12:08] scenarios for solving problems and
[00:12:11] developing for the future. As for Mr. Trump, 2 years ago,
[00:12:15] when he won, everyone
[00:12:18] said that's it, the end of the Democrats,
[00:12:21] the blue wave was over, everything would be red now. Now
[00:12:25] after 2 years, the opposite story entirely, everyone says that
[00:12:28] it's the end for the Republicans. Dear
[00:12:31] viewers, let's understand that history is cyclical, and
[00:12:35] in 2 years or even four, we may have
[00:12:39] completely different trends. Konstantinovich, a question
[00:12:42] from our viewers, they leave their questions on
[00:12:45] the Zvezda News portal, here's how it sounds, you talked
[00:12:49] about preparing materials for an international tribunal over
[00:12:52] Zelensky, how realistic is the creation of...
[00:14:03] all this mass of information into a legal plane, I don't think this topic will arise in the near future in any way, moreover, no one is even raising this question, but sooner or later we
[00:14:06] will definitely get to this, because the guilt of
[00:14:10] the President of Ukraine, the so-called president and his
[00:14:13] entourage, undoubtedly exists,
[00:14:17] there are too many facts on this matter, it must
[00:14:20] be, as they say, placed under
[00:14:24] judicial supervision and control. From my
[00:14:27] point of view, this will happen when we are sure that such an
[00:14:31] international tribunal will indeed
[00:14:34] have authority, will have legal
[00:14:37] force, will be supported by a sufficient number of countries, it must be
[00:14:41] international, and not, so to speak, purely
[00:14:44] Russian. We have not reached that point yet,
[00:14:48] but this prospect should not be ruled out, and
[00:14:51] Ukrainian leaders should know this.
[00:14:55] Konstantinovich, at the end of our conversation today, I want
[00:14:59] to return to the elections in the United States and
[00:15:02] the video of the day we chose, this is San
[00:15:05] Diego, there voters were offered a completely different
[00:15:09] party, a four-legged one, and near the polling station
[00:15:12] they organized a real puppy therapy. Dogs,
[00:15:15] these were shelter dogs, could be petted, hugged, and even
[00:15:19] applied for adoption, and the organizers
[00:15:22] assure that animals help
[00:15:25] relieve pre-election stress, but it's hard to argue with that,
[00:15:29] although the election results certainly don't warm
[00:15:32] Donald Trump's heart. Konstantinovich, I sincerely thank
[00:15:36] you for this comment, we are always happy to welcome
[00:15:39] you in our studio, this was the program "Meanwhile", we
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[00:15:45] 22:35 on Zvezda channel.