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00:00:17a vicar, what Iya did,
00:00:19this is just
00:00:21a miracle,
00:00:25I found my
00:00:28shot, are we ready?
00:01:22The big game is on air, the United States and
00:01:24Russia
00:01:27agreed on deliveries to Russia.
00:01:54but what a scandal naturally broke out in Kyiv among Kyiv's accomplices
00:01:57in Europe and even. in some part,
00:02:01in a significant part, I dare say,
00:02:04of the American Congress of American mass media.
00:02:08Most of all, of course, I am always
00:02:12impressed
00:02:14by Comrade Zelensky, he impresses me
00:02:18with his absolute certainty that he
00:02:22can dictate anything to anyone,
00:02:25at least from among his so-called
00:02:29partners. But there
00:02:31is a rule: don't
00:02:34bite the hand that feeds you,
00:02:38but for Zelensky, such
00:02:41a principle absolutely does not exist, and he
00:02:45allows himself to lecture the American
00:02:49president, effectively explaining to him
00:02:52his inadequacy, all
00:02:55of this, I sincerely believe that
00:02:58this cannot in any way. cannot in any way affect
00:03:02the level of American support,
00:03:05I waited a long time
00:03:07for our Polish allies
00:03:11to break loose,
00:03:14but until recently they, at least, observed some
00:03:18decorum towards the United States,
00:03:21understanding their dependence on America, but they also
00:03:25couldn't resist, let's listen to what
00:03:28the Polish Prime Minister said...
00:03:34Nothing will remove Russia's full 100% responsibility for the war in
00:03:38Ukraine. Everyone who tries to put the sides on an equal footing, everyone
00:03:41who claims that Ukraine is responsible for the war, is making
00:03:44an extremely valuable gift to the aggressor, Putin. Anyone who, out of
00:03:48betrayal, stupidity or for the sake of money, seeks to weaken Ukraine in its
00:03:51struggle against Russian aggression, acts directly against
00:03:54their own people, the security of their country and its
00:03:57sovereignty. Well, there you have it, Andrey
00:04:01Ivanovich, I'll start by saying that I want to sincerely
00:04:05congratulate you on your election as Chairman of the Federation Council
00:04:09Committee on International Affairs. I know that
00:04:12this is a great honor, that this is a great responsibility, but I
00:04:16also believe that this is an excellent decision from
00:04:19the point of view of the interests of the Federation Council
00:04:22itself and Russian foreign policy.
00:04:26Thank you, thank you, and of course, I
00:04:29want to ask you. You are a very experienced
00:04:31diplomat, you were ambassador to China,
00:04:35to the UN, you
00:04:38were First Deputy Minister of Foreign
00:04:41Affairs, have you ever heard such a tone
00:04:45from heads of states dependent on the United States?
00:04:48Not just me, nobody has ever heard it. You know, there is some kind of
00:04:51hopelessness in all this, some kind of funnel has just sucked
00:04:55in figures, well, like this Polish leader, whom
00:04:58we, in general, know well, he
00:05:02worked for a long time in various government positions in
00:05:05Poland, then in Brussels he was the chairman
00:05:09of the European Commission, well, and so on, in short, a figure, a figure well-
00:05:30known to us, but what he is saying now really goes beyond all bounds, to put it simply, look at the lexicon, he doesn't name names, but he says that what happened is either stupidity or greed, that is, accusations addressed to the President of the United States of America, expressed
00:05:34in such words, but indeed, this has never happened before,
00:05:37this is the same Tusk, this is the same
00:06:42moreover, the criticism is bipartisan,
00:06:46let's listen to the statement of seven senators, four
00:06:50of whom are Republicans and three
00:06:53are Democrats.
00:06:56In 2022, Congress directly prohibited the import of energy resources from
00:07:00Russia so that American money would not go to finance Putin's war against
00:07:03Ukraine. The position of Congress was unambiguous: the US should not buy
00:07:07Russian oil until Russia stops aggression against Ukraine and stops
00:07:10threatening US NATO allies. President Trump's decision to allow the import
00:07:14of Russian diesel fuel into the US directly contradicts this law. Moreover,
00:07:18VTB. To feed the cat, Congress and did not justify its
00:07:22decision, as required by law. The US should not provide Putin
00:07:25a financial lifeline while Russia continues to kill civilians
00:07:28in Ukraine. The administration should immediately review its
00:07:31course. Well, I must say right away that
00:07:35to put all this into, if I may say so, an American
00:07:39domestic political perspective. From these.
00:08:12United States.
00:08:16First of all, we will act within our legal powers. All those in
00:08:20Congress who say that some old law or the current
00:08:23Lindsey Graham bill forbids us to do this, are wrong. Listen, President Trump
00:08:27came to power with a mandate to work for the American people, lowering diesel
00:08:31fuel prices is good for the American
00:08:33people.
00:08:35Now, as for attempts to stop,
00:08:39to stop this deal in Congress.
00:10:55with the naked eye, and if in the United States all this
00:10:58looks quite natural, but there have always been
00:11:01different parties, different groups, Trump's support was
00:11:05such that, I would say, far from universal,
00:11:09it reached very serious accusations against
00:11:12each other, against Trump himself, all this is within the logic of the American
00:11:16domestic political struggle, if you will, or
00:11:19discussion, but as for Europe, here, of course, there is some kind of.
00:11:23just a squeal, just a squeal, here, here,
00:11:26here, here,
00:11:29well, as they say, they got them, they got them, they stung them, there,
00:11:33apparently, well, they just, they just didn't expect it, and all this coincided
00:11:37with the negotiations in Miami, which, probably,
00:11:40is doubly offensive for the Europeans who participated
00:11:43in them, the Ukrainian delegation refused to continue these
00:11:47negotiations, there were Europeans there, nothing is said about Europeans, but apparently not without
00:11:51the prompting of Europeans, everything. this happened, in a word, we
00:11:55are observing simply some kind of,
00:11:58some kind of cosmic sabbat
00:12:01around the decision of the American president,
00:12:04let's generally think about ourselves, first of all, for us
00:12:08such a development would be positive, well, firstly, as an example
00:12:11of lifting sanctions, secondly, as an opportunity to enter
00:12:15the foreign market with our goods, in a word, pure, one might
00:12:19say, positive, the other thing is that there is an agreement reached during
00:12:22a telephone conversation and there is its implementation, here,
00:12:26of course, the distance is quite large, and as we know, anything can happen in
00:12:30the near future, because there, you know, they say the devil is in
00:12:33the details, there is not one devil sitting in these very
00:12:37details, well, that same law, now it needs to be somehow
00:12:40bypassed, I read somewhere
00:12:43or heard that, and Besen said that yes, the old
00:12:47law, this law is almost from 1922,
00:12:51a century ago, which, probably, existed, which no one...
00:12:55followed all these years and decades, because it was simply
00:12:58forgotten, but when it's needed, it's pulled out of the bag, as
00:13:01they say, to add to the arguments, well,
00:13:04and the goods need to be shipped,
00:13:07these very ships need to be licensed,
00:13:11each of them
00:13:14needs to have the corresponding procedures processed,
00:13:17insurance and so on, there is quite a lot of documentation, for
00:13:21each position these very sanctions need to be lifted,
00:13:26which, as you know, well, they are simply... they are very, I would say,
00:13:29Jesuitically formulated, you cannot lift them, remember the infamous
00:13:33Jackson-Vanik Act, remember, you can
00:13:36adopt it, but then you cannot lift it, because there is
00:13:39a decision, political decisions of two kinds, there is an executive order, as
00:13:42it is called, that is, a presidential decree, he
00:13:45adopted it as a regulatory act with this decree, he can also
00:13:48repeal it, but there, as lovers of the game of
00:13:51Preference say, it is all done through Congress.
00:14:25political dynamics, of course, which are reflected in stock
00:14:29quotes, in all these futures, and
00:14:32of course, they have such a, I would say,
00:14:35downward influence, it has already, this
00:14:39agreement, it has already played a positive
00:14:42role in this regard, but let's see how events unfold, indeed,
00:14:46the intrigue, the intrigue has spun
00:14:49to the limit, one might say, when
00:14:51I heard and watched all these...
00:14:56things, I of course thought of you, Korin Georgievich, and about my
00:14:59favorite topic, life as judo,
00:15:03what are your impressions of what is happening,
00:15:06well, I don't appear here often now, I'm filming
00:15:10a movie, finishing filming called
00:15:13Joseph Stalin, moment of truth, so,
00:15:16moment of truth, many consider this to be the title of the wonderful novel
00:15:20by Bogomolov, so it has a second title, but in general, moment of truth
00:15:23is a term that came from Spain, that Bogomolov, whom
00:15:27we know and love, yes, yes, yes, that Bogomolov, whom we know
00:15:31and love very, very much, indeed, in short, many have
00:15:34forgotten this term, it came from Spain, from Corrida.
00:16:07coincidence in all these, as they say,
00:16:10again the same story, in
00:16:14general, if to speak briefly,
00:16:17all of Europe was united
00:16:21by Hitler, some to a greater
00:16:24extent, some to a lesser extent, but in principle, all of Europe
00:16:28fought with the Soviet Union, including, by the way,
00:16:31Poles, including, by the way, Poles, who, as they say,
00:16:35today this is, well, the difference consists in
00:16:38the fact that the Soviet Union practically
00:16:42had no allies at all, practically
00:16:45none at all, they, as they say, appeared after all
00:16:48due to necessity, but
00:16:51already in the process of the war, in general, of course, because
00:16:55Asia then was
00:16:56absolutely
00:16:59devastated, and no possibilities, today there are still
00:17:03friendly countries in Asia that are to us, but I mean that...
00:17:08this is of course amazing, how history makes this circle
00:17:11repeat, and the most important thing,
00:17:15in general, what I
00:17:17why? Well, because they believe that
00:17:21Russia, like the Soviet Union, by the way, in the late
00:17:24thirties, here, Stalin
00:17:27had, he had a message, there was such
00:17:31an agent, a Corsican, a very good
00:17:33agent, this agent reported to Stalin.
00:17:37He sent him this, that the German General Staff
00:17:40gave the Soviet Union and the Red Army 8
00:17:44days, in 8 days they were supposed to
00:17:46completely defeat them, they thought they could defeat the Red
00:17:49Army within 25 days and reach the Urals, that was
00:17:53the situation, that is, it was completely different and Stalin, of course, understood
00:17:57that the problems of the Red Army, which are very
00:18:01serious, and this and this and this and this all
00:18:04and all...
00:18:37I see now, they believe, we all the time, I hear
00:18:41these, why are they, why are they behaving like
00:18:43that, because they believe that
00:18:47Russia is greatly weakened, and this, this is true, this is true,
00:18:50we must look the truth in the eye, compared to the Soviet Union,
00:18:54with the period, so to speak, from forty-five to
00:18:58seventy-five, eighty, when it was the peak
00:19:01of our country's power, of course, we became weaker
00:19:05due to, due to again those from...
00:19:37any leader, Trump or not Trump, well, they won't
00:19:40assist us in ending this war, it's not
00:19:44in their interests, it's absolutely not in their
00:19:47interests, that all these games are going on, but why
00:19:51is it not in their interests, for example, in their struggle with
00:19:54China in the long term, it would seem
00:19:57that normal relations with Russia would be a plus, in their fight against
00:20:01Iran, no, no, they, they perfectly understand, and I
00:20:04think that all of them, the entire political.
00:20:37and will support China, surely any political
00:20:41regime in Russia will definitely support China to a greater or lesser
00:20:45extent, just as China supports Russia, from this
00:20:48point of view. If I were part of the American
00:20:51establishment, I would say, finish off this
00:20:54country, finish it off, don't finish it off to a state of complete
00:20:58collapse, because they have nuclear weapons, but finish it off,
00:21:02make it our client, of course, it's beneficial
00:21:05for them, so I don't see any possibility
00:21:08that there will be any political force in America,
00:21:11unfortunately, unfortunately, that would
00:21:15contribute to stopping this, this is the only thing we
00:21:18should rely on, it's... just ourselves to find ways
00:21:22to inflict such damage, I'm not talking
00:21:26about nuclear war, by the way, no, not necessarily, but
00:21:29to inflict such damage that would be significant for them
00:21:32and that would force them
00:21:35to retreat, they will never retreat completely, they will always
00:21:39strive for this, as they have been striving for this for 200
00:21:42years, but at least for some period to retreat so
00:21:46that we can deal with our own affairs,
00:21:50I absolutely agree with what you said about
00:21:53damage,
00:21:55and the new magazine Politika, in which I am currently
00:21:58working, in the next issue is going
00:22:01to publish a large article, precisely on
00:22:04how, if necessary, we can inflict
00:22:08damage on them, I mean the collective West, be it
00:22:12military damage, be it economic, be it
00:22:15political, but I can tell you one thing about...
00:22:19сказать одно на...
00:22:50there were many people who considered
00:22:53it necessary to negotiate with the Soviet Union
00:22:57and none of them
00:23:00were friends of the Soviet Union, let alone Soviet
00:23:03communism, but many of them had
00:23:06the feeling that the Soviet Union could
00:23:09be not only a very important, but often
00:23:12a useful partner on the world stage, for the last
00:23:1630 years, you are absolutely right, there appeared.
00:23:50I agree with what Iran Georgievich says, but here I would
00:23:53say that dreaming is not harmful, of course, but
00:23:57still,
00:23:59if the bet is only on Ukraine exhausting us,
00:24:02that's no, they still have
00:24:05very limited resources compared to us, what
00:24:08we say, that the collective West stands behind them, yes,
00:24:12it stands, but what does it stand for, it stands with money,
00:24:16it stands, with supplies...
00:24:27Yes, this causes us inconvenience, yes, it distracts, forces us to make additional efforts,
00:24:30but a decisive turning point, and moreover, so to speak, to exhaust
00:24:34us completely, moreover to dismember, destroy, this will not
00:24:38succeed, for this their
00:24:41direct, so to speak, intervention in this
00:24:45conflict with their armed forces is needed, and this,
00:24:48naturally, is fraught with consequences,
00:25:50for the defeat of large infrastructure
00:25:53targets on the sea coast, well, there are
00:25:57tasks that in America
00:26:00include not...
00:26:18well, we never, our leadership is absolutely right, we never emphasize that these are large cities, we talk about large infrastructure facilities, primarily military bases, all military bases, especially naval bases, naturally,
00:26:21yes, air bases, not to mention
00:26:24large cities, all of them are located either on the western or on
00:26:28the eastern coast, therefore, taking into account
00:26:31the fact that this is...
00:27:02its goals, well, what about our Arctic Ocean
00:27:06coast? No, St. Petersburg is not on
00:27:10the ocean coast, to use it
00:27:13you need not just to say
00:27:16the Finnish Gulf,
00:27:19there into a nuclear submarine,
00:27:22no, this is not, this is not an option, you need,
00:27:26you need oceans, and the Pacific coast, where we have
00:27:30Vladivostok and Vilyuchinsk, the base of our... Pacific fleet,
00:27:33that's it, so, well, plus we have nuclear
00:27:37weapons, and I am absolutely
00:27:40convinced, well, first of all, I
00:27:43have always said, say and will say, that
00:27:47there will be no limited nuclear war and cannot be,
00:27:50if the Americans interfere with the Europeans, yes, maybe,
00:27:54with the participation of the Americans - it's a global catastrophe, it's
00:27:57mutual destruction, so you are absolutely right, but
00:28:01you will probably agree?
00:29:32convince themselves that they can afford to,
00:29:36even without the Americans, fully support
00:29:39Ukraine, and not expect any serious
00:29:42trouble from it. You know what it means to support
00:29:45Ukraine? Now there are talks that Trump
00:29:49there, well, actually, not him personally, but his representatives, even
00:29:53now information has emerged that it was an official,
00:29:57so to speak, warning from the State Department
00:29:59and the Pentagon, that there is. if Ukraine continues
00:30:02to strike our oil refineries, then they
00:30:05will stop providing them with intelligence
00:30:09information and block
00:30:11this program,
00:30:14that is, the supply of American
00:30:16weapons for the money of Europeans, if
00:30:20the Americans, well, reconnaissance
00:30:23guidance, if the Americans stop
00:30:26providing, so to speak, information, coordinates
00:30:30for missile guidance, this is very
00:30:33sensitive for Ukraine, if Musk turns off Starlink, this will be another
00:30:36blow, as for weapons, the Europeans simply
00:30:40do not have the capacity to compensate for what the Americans are giving,
00:30:44therefore, without without the Americans,
00:30:48the Europeans, for the time being, at least, well, they have plans, they
00:30:51have money, about 900 billion, they allocate
00:30:55for this for the next 3-4 years, if
00:30:58they manage to achieve. autonomy in
00:31:03their, so to speak, combat potential, then it's another
00:31:07matter, at the moment, no, that is, in other
00:31:10words, we return to where we started.
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00:37:35Lieutenant Colonel Ivan Komarov, Deputy Commander
00:37:38of the Separate Guards 810 Marine Brigade, you have
00:37:42repeatedly said that you are a healer of human souls.
00:37:45Brother, we all embarked on the path of
00:37:48a warrior. How much time in battle does
00:37:52it take for a person to become a warrior from
00:37:55just a soldier? Then in a week, I personally was surrounded three times,
00:37:59you have to be very confident that you will go with the call sign truth,
00:38:02because I will push through, I love truth, I love justice,
00:38:06islands, these Dnieper islands, we enter
00:38:09straight away, it simply begins
00:38:12to be hell and I fall and assume
00:38:15I'm probably dying, it's just like in a movie, but it's real life,
00:38:19we completed the task, took eight islands, the entire unit was
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00:38:50naturally play a role in shaping Russian policy
00:38:54regarding China, here
00:38:57I... want to get your opinion on what
00:39:00China's Foreign Ministry said regarding the crisis in
00:39:03Ukraine. Let's
00:39:05listen.
00:39:09The Ukrainian crisis must not be allowed to get out of control as a result of further
00:39:12escalation. All interested parties and the international community must
00:39:16jointly seek a political solution. We hope that the interested parties
00:39:20will continue to maintain contacts, demonstrate political will,
00:39:23consistently develop consensus and work together to achieve everything.
00:39:59Do we have reason to worry? You
00:40:01know, I honestly don't see any
00:40:05such reasons, again, judge him by his deeds, not
00:40:08by his words. As for words, I don't quite agree with
00:40:12you, Dmitry, this is just a statement
00:40:16by the Deputy Permanent Representative to the UN
00:40:19Security Council. Let's not forget, the UN is
00:40:22an intergovernmental organization, everything that is said there is
00:40:25not a product, as they say.
00:41:27have been repeatedly stated, they refer to
00:41:30the conversation between our president and the Indian president at
00:41:34one of the last recent summits, which
00:41:37generally were, well, let's say, in abundance, in the autumn of this year, and
00:41:41there will be more, I will talk about it now, and as for
00:41:45China, well, there was this statement
00:41:48that we read, but there was also a statement
00:41:52by Wang Yi, the Foreign Minister, a member of the Politburo and curator
00:41:55of the entire foreign policy of China, who at the Munich
00:41:59Conference, in which, as is known, we have not participated
00:42:02for a long time, directly said that
00:42:05China is not interested in Russia's defeat, interpret that
00:42:08however you want. Dear Western
00:42:11partners, with whom he actually, how do you understand this? And I understand it this way, that
00:42:15China really sees the obvious, that if, as they say,
00:42:19God forbid, something happens to us, then China will be left alone,
00:42:23now, no matter what you say, this
00:42:26Chinese formula of "back to back", "spine to spine", it
00:42:29has a place. Now,
00:42:32perhaps about the main thing: China is absorbed in its
00:42:36problems, both internal and external.
00:42:40Internal problems are the state of the economy, the state
00:42:43of society. In the near future, the fifth plenum of the
00:42:46CPC Central Committee will be held in China, the penultimate one before the party
00:42:50congress, which will be next year, there will be a sixth plenum, usually
00:42:53there are six plenums between two congresses, so now on the agenda,
00:42:57as far as I understand, is the fifth, which should adopt
00:43:00quite serious decisions concerning
00:43:03all internal matters, the entire nature of the country's
00:43:07internal development, including issues...
00:43:48China will still emerge, but at the same time it faces serious problems, here
00:43:52we touch upon the external
00:43:53sphere,
00:43:56November 18-19
00:43:59will see the APEC summit of Asia-Pacific Economic
00:44:03Cooperation, where both Trump and
00:44:06Putin will arrive, the intrigue is quite serious.
00:44:11Besides this trilateral possible
00:44:13meeting, which has attracted universal attention, there will be quite
00:44:17a lot of issues on the agenda at APEC, including Chinese-American ones,
00:44:20Trump's visit in May with all these courtesies,
00:44:24Xi Jinping's visit
00:44:28to very
00:44:31recently, first Trump, then
00:44:34Xi Jinping to the United States, with all
00:44:38protocol details. Nevertheless, the main problem was not solved,
00:44:41so the dialogue will continue, and this is a vital issue for China. What is
00:44:45the main problem? The main problem is still to achieve normalization of trade
00:44:49relations, to somehow verify, to establish some rules to work within, because
00:44:52for now there are no such rules, for now China is taking, well,
00:44:56rather by force, that is, by promoting those areas in which it
00:45:00is strong, the same robots, for example, or electric vehicles, that's
00:45:04it, that's what's on the surface, and there are a whole range of other goods where
00:45:07China generally really uses its own. property. China
00:45:10is very active in the field of artificial intelligence, or as they
00:45:14say, super intelligence.
00:45:17China
00:45:20is trying to somehow divide Americans and
00:45:23Europeans. He believes that with Americans they still have what the Chinese
00:45:27call a struggle of "point against point". With
00:45:30Europeans, one can work, and so they are working. Very serious
00:45:34negotiations with Europeans regarding trade matters just ended, but
00:45:38there too, not everything is smooth, because
00:45:40the huge, huge Chinese positive trade balance, as in trade
00:45:44with the USA, makes Europeans very
00:45:47has felt its strength, both with Americans through
00:45:49rare earth elements, and with Europe. Europe is
00:45:52still weaker than the United States as a trade
00:45:56opponent, so just recently,
00:46:00the other day, I read a report that China
00:46:03opened an anti-dumping investigation against
00:46:06Europeans. I honestly don't recall such a thing. This is exactly...
00:46:10using the enemy's own weapon. Usually, these anti-dumping
00:46:13measures are pursued through the World Trade Organization by China's
00:46:17Western partners. In short, China is concentrated on
00:46:20solving these issues, hoping,
00:46:24hoping that its efforts will still lead to a certain
00:46:27improvement of the overall situation, and the statement
00:46:30of Comrade Sun in the Security Council is to a certain extent a reflection
00:46:34of this hope. China is playing on this, not on escalation,
00:46:38but on what is called.
00:46:42Let's listen to what is happening in trade
00:46:46relations between China and Europe, in particular,
00:46:50what France and Germany are doing against China, let's
00:46:53listen. Germany and France jointly advocate for the creation
00:46:57of new protection instruments against unfair trade practices of other
00:47:00states. The systematic application of methods that distort market
00:47:03conditions threatens competition for European companies and increases dependence
00:47:07on external suppliers. This is stated in a letter from the head of the German government, Friedrich
00:47:11Merz, and French President Emmanuel Macron, to the President of the European Commission,
00:47:14Ursula von der Leyen. According to the authors of the letter, existing protection
00:47:18instruments are no longer sufficient. The leaders propose to create two new
00:47:21mechanisms. The first should promote diversification of supplies and prevent
00:47:25excessive dependence of companies on suppliers from individual countries.
00:47:28The second will allow for the accelerated exclusion of other states from
00:47:31the European single market. The EU has a huge trade deficit with
00:47:35to protect its industry from Chinese
00:47:38competition. And this is how China responds to this.
00:47:42The production and logistics chains of China and the European Union are deeply intertwined
00:47:46and interconnected, and trade and economic relations between the countries are essentially
00:47:49mutually beneficial. We hope that the European side
00:47:53will meet China halfway and resolve mutual issues through dialogue and consultations.
00:47:56Joint efforts will ensure the stability and uninterrupted flow of global chains, which will
00:48:00promote the healthy and stable development of trade and economic relations between China
00:48:04and the European Union. How do you
00:48:07evaluate this? Sounds serious, doesn't it? You
00:48:10know, it certainly sounds serious, but I don't evaluate it at all,
00:48:14I, well, due to my position, let's say, for
00:48:17many years, if not decades, I've heard
00:48:21roughly this phraseology.
00:48:52there it will all be put away in a long box, in a
00:48:55word, it's rather such, you know, an
00:48:58exchange of statements, everything is decided
00:49:02quietly in negotiations, and there, unfortunately, alas,
00:49:05unfortunately, because the normalization of trade
00:49:09relations would contribute to
00:49:12the recovery of the entire global economy, there are very large figures,
00:49:16China's trade with the European Union is somewhere around
00:49:191 trillion dollars, this is a very large figure. With the United
00:49:23States, it fell to somewhere around 500 something billion, but it's still
00:49:27about twice as much as, say, our trade with
00:49:30China, but we have a surplus in our favor,
00:49:34thanks, of course, first of all, to energy carriers. With the United
00:49:38States and Europe, it's 300
00:49:40billion, 400 billion, that's the order of magnitude by which the
00:49:44positive balance in favor of China is measured. Well, yes, they will
00:49:48refuse to supply some goods from China, but where will they get them? There aren't
00:49:51many options.
00:50:22understand that in China, apparently, a serious internal struggle
00:50:26is taking place. There are many Westerners in China, much
00:50:30more than in Russia, who, as
00:50:32they say, who believe that China
00:50:36needs to move away from Russia. This struggle is
00:50:39going on in China. There is a part in China, I would simply call it
00:50:42Eurasian, because I have met people who were
00:50:46admirers of Lev Gumilyov, precisely
00:50:49those who, as it were, considered China as part of Eurasia.
00:50:52Russia, that is, such ideas are also present, so to speak, plus
00:50:56Soviet ideas, of course, so,
00:50:58I think that we need to at least
00:51:02understand that this struggle is taking place
00:51:05in China,
00:51:08and, in general, it is, of course, desirable for us that in this struggle
00:51:11the supporters of a strong alliance with the Russian
00:51:15Federation, with Russia, win. We probably
00:51:18need to somehow prove to China in this sense that we are more needed
00:51:22than the West. We should not forget that in the Middle Ages, China
00:51:26was, by the way, in the same situation. China was
00:51:29the workshop of the world. China was the workshop of the world. All
00:51:32goods to Europe came from China,
00:51:35porcelain, silk. China bought nothing
00:51:38except one thing,
00:51:40silver, because the monetary
00:51:44unit in China was silver. It was precisely the
00:51:47silver, when Western supplies of silver stopped, that
00:51:50became the cause of China's decline, which ultimately
00:51:54led to civil wars and, as
00:51:57is known, practically to China's colonial state.
00:52:01But in this sense, so to speak, we also need...
00:54:35generally speaking, I believe we should be satisfied and have
00:54:38the right to be proud that we have such relations
00:54:42as we have,
00:54:44and simply not to expect that China will suddenly
00:54:48look at the world through our
00:54:51glasses and perceive
00:54:55things as we perceive them. If we
00:54:58expect that, then I think there would be disappointment.
00:55:01We're going to a commercial break, we'll be back in a few minutes, and
00:55:05General Buzhinsky will add to this
00:55:07topic, and then tell us about the war in the Persian
00:55:11Gulf.
00:55:20Revelations of American congressmen about Donald Trump's
00:55:23hellish sanctions. We fully support sanctions against Russia.
00:55:27This is Chellie Pingree, congresswoman from the state of Maine. I am
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00:55:34to win this war. Hoyer is at the top of the Democratic Party, he understands
00:55:37everything perfectly, this war is going badly for the United States,
00:55:40and its negative economic consequences
00:55:44have noticeably affected not only the states themselves, but also the world
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00:55:51fights like that? If we are in power, then
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01:01:05On air, Big Game. Evgeny Petrovich, please. Yes, I just wanted
01:01:08to add, of course, trade and economic relations,
01:01:12there, uh, China is
01:01:15the world's factory, no doubt.
01:01:17But there's another aspect, of course, it's the military
01:01:21aspect. In principle, now, after we
01:01:25started, well, about 10 years ago with
01:01:28China, cooperation, military-technical
01:01:31cooperation, there's the creation of a missile
01:01:33attack warning system, which China didn't have, we
01:01:37started space cooperation, we are a strategic
01:01:40rear for China, just as they are a strategic
01:01:43rear for us,
01:01:48is very picturesque, but if you reason from a military
01:01:51point of view, we complement each other very
01:01:55well, an attack
01:01:57through the northern routes, through the North Pole or from
01:02:01the south, we cover
01:02:05each other, so this
01:02:08aspect should also not be
01:02:11disregarded, our military,
01:02:14military-technical cooperation, if you look at the plans... at the events
01:02:18there, joint patrolling - in
01:02:20the air and at sea, it becomes more and more intensive
01:02:24and large-scale every year, so I think that
01:02:28nevertheless - our relations with China
01:02:31will deepen.
01:02:34Now, regarding the Middle
01:02:37East. You know, despite the fact
01:02:40that the Americans seem to have
01:02:44reduced their military activity,
01:02:47Trump even said that he would not
01:02:50take any action before the elections, but nevertheless,
01:02:54but then he said, "unless I decide otherwise, unless I
01:02:57decide otherwise." Nevertheless, the grouping. They are strengthening there, the third
01:03:01aircraft carrier group has already
01:03:04arrived, that is, there are not enough
01:03:08forces for a ground invasion, but if
01:03:12Trump suddenly decides to indeed launch
01:03:15missile and bomb strikes, he can
01:03:18do it, but
01:03:21despite the fact that the Americans are behaving, so to speak, more or
01:03:25less calmly, that is, they are not in the hot
01:03:28phase of armed
01:04:00to say, into the open ocean, into the Arabian Sea and so on, further into the Indian
01:04:03Ocean, and they were struck, well, the Iranians said
01:04:07that they hit a mine, but nevertheless,
01:04:09despite the fact that Trump says that we
01:04:12control
01:04:14контролируем
01:04:18the Strait of Hormuz, maybe they do control it, but nevertheless
01:04:21I think that Iran actually controls it, moreover,
01:04:25a new front has now emerged, which is the Houthis,
01:04:29it's... the Houthis and their war with Saudi Arabia,
01:04:33the strikes that were recently carried out
01:04:35on the airport in Saudi
01:04:39Arabia, on the oil pipeline
01:04:42that goes to the Red
01:04:45Sea for the export of Saudi
01:04:49oil, all this significantly exacerbates
01:04:53the situation, so oil is not
01:04:56rushing to fall in price, it's still there at
01:05:00100 dollars, it's still there despite all Trump's assurances,
01:05:04what will happen next, I think,
01:05:07that Trump, the Americans simply
01:05:10really find themselves in a deadlock now, they
01:05:13simply don't have a good option to get out of this
01:05:16conflict with saving face for them yet,
01:05:19because, I repeat, to start any
01:05:23ground operations is absolutely reckless,
01:05:26they will get bogged down there for decades.
01:05:30To count on the collapse of the regime in
01:05:34Iran, I also think,
01:05:37is still unlikely.
01:05:39So
01:05:42how to really unblock
01:05:45the Strait of Hormuz and
01:05:47establish, so to speak, a more or less
01:05:50order in the Bab al-Mandeb Strait
01:05:54with the export of oil to the Red Sea, that is, of course,
01:05:57a task, as they say, with an asterisk.
01:06:04is in a difficult position here. On the one
01:06:07hand, we are clearly emotionally on
01:06:10Iran's side, I'm not afraid to say that I am very strongly
01:06:14emotionally on Iran's side.
01:06:18On the other hand, we have growing
01:06:22relations, at least diplomatically, with the United
01:06:25States. How do we find the
01:06:29right balance
01:06:30in this situation?
01:06:33Well, you know, this is a classic
01:06:36diplomatic task. We just need to
01:06:40act in accordance with our interests, well,
01:06:43and take into account our capabilities. After all, in that very phone conversation where
01:06:47that diesel fuel was discussed,
01:06:51let's not forget, Iran was also mentioned, and
01:06:54before leaving Avaza, from
01:06:58Turkmenistan, our president had
01:07:02a conversation with the president of Iran, and I
01:07:04understand he conveyed certain conclusions and, as
01:07:08was said, considerations regarding
01:07:10the possibility of reaching some kind of
01:07:14exchange, some kind of agreement, or at least movement towards this
01:07:17agreement. He reminded once again about our initiative concerning
01:07:21nuclear weapons. For now, it is not accepted, Iran primarily
01:07:24does not perceive it, but nevertheless, it lies on...
01:07:28speaking, relations with the Americans,
01:07:42yes, this is us, in general, we do not hide our, let's
01:07:46say, attitude towards Iran,
01:07:49our ties with Iran,
01:07:52our solidarity with the Iranian
01:07:55position, we express corresponding theses in the UN, in
01:07:59the UN Security Council, our Foreign Ministry representatives constantly
01:08:02voice this, and Iran is grateful to us for this, and I
01:08:06honestly have never seen any attempts to deviate, that's the first thing,
01:08:09second, the United States also. I don't recall them
01:08:13making any claims about our relations with Iran, moreover, when
01:08:17someone tried to accuse Russia of supplying something, Trump himself
01:08:21once said, remember, that we have no grounds and
01:08:24no information that Russia is helping
01:08:28Iran. Iran, for its part, also said that
01:08:31we don't need anything in this regard, we can handle everything
01:08:34ourselves. In short, everything here is developing according to its own tracks,
01:08:38according to its own laws and logic, and in no way interfering with each other...