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00:01:16MUSIC These These are our latest headlines on on BBC News. Saudi Arabia threatens
00:01:20threatens what it calls a serious serious response to the deadly Houthi
00:01:24Houthi attacks on Riyadh's international international airport. Flights remain
00:01:27remain suspended. 14 people were
00:01:28were killed in strikes over the weekend.
00:01:32weekend. Ukraine's President Volodymyr Volodymyr Zelensky has accused Russia
00:01:34Russia of striking power plants immediately immediately after President Trump
00:01:38Trump announced what he called an
00:01:40an energy ceasefire overnight between
00:01:43between Kyiv and Moscow, a BBC investigation
00:01:46investigation reveals the world's world's biggest accountancy firm
00:01:49firm helped hide the wealth of the the former Chelsea football Club
00:01:52Club owner Roman Abramovich. As the
00:01:54the mid-term elections loom in the the United States, we'll have a special
00:01:57special report on one of the key key political flashpoints the data
00:02:01data centres powering the AI boom
00:02:05boom and the comedian and actor Russell Russell Brand has appeared in court
00:02:08court for the start of his trial trial on charges of rape and sexual
00:02:12sexual assault. He denies the charges.
00:02:21charges. The President of Microsoft
00:02:23Microsoft has said that work on the the regulation of artificial intelligence
00:02:26intelligence needs to start immediately. immediately. Speaking to my colleague
00:02:29colleague Will Bayne for the BBC's BBC's Big Boss interview, he said
00:02:32said that the current system of self-regulation
00:02:36self-regulation simply is not working.
00:02:37working. When you look at AI agents
00:02:40agents that have escaped human control, control, when you look at models
00:02:44models that are so powerful that that they're putting the world's
00:02:47world's cybersecurity at risk, I I would say, look, the moment has
00:02:50has arrived. Let's speak calmly,
00:02:53calmly, maybe even softly but firmly,
00:02:56firmly, and start to bring people people together. I hope that's the the role we can
00:03:04That's the role we can play as a company. I hope that's the role
00:03:07role the UK can play as a country. country. So there was this accord accord that came out at the White
00:03:11White House, wasn't you were notably notably not one of the signatories signatories as a company, a company
00:03:14company of that. But that was all all about I'm quoting the President President again here, tremendous tremendous self-regulation. It sounds
00:03:17sounds like from what you're saying saying to me, without putting words words in your mouth, you don't think think self-regulation actually goes
00:03:21goes far enough. There should be be one body somewhere that people people are compelled. Forced what
00:03:24what is it legally forced to put put their models through to test? test? I would say two things. First,
00:03:28First, I applaud, I applaud, we applaud
00:03:30applaud as a company that statement statement and we're happy to sign
00:03:34sign it. It's a good step. It's a a necessary step. And fundamentally
00:03:38fundamentally what it does is it it says companies should have internal
00:03:40internal controls. It should have have its internal auditors looking
00:03:43looking at things like AI safety. safety. We've been doing that since
00:03:46since almost a decade ago, and there there ought to be some external evaluators
00:03:50evaluators as well, all to the good.
00:03:53good. It's necessary. I don't think
00:03:55think it's sufficient any longer
00:03:59longer because the challenge for for any self-regulatory regime is
00:04:02is if it's left to the industry alone,
00:04:06alone, frankly, the good companies companies will do what you want.
00:04:08want. It's the companies that are are not as responsible that you need
00:04:11need to worry about. Well, let's
00:04:14let's stay with AI because as America's
00:04:16America's mid-term elections approach approach the data centres powering
00:04:20powering the AI boom are becoming becoming a real political flashpoint.
00:04:23flashpoint. A new proposal in Washington Washington would require them to
00:04:27to cover the costs of additional additional electricity infrastructure
00:04:31infrastructure that they create. create. Well, President Trump does
00:04:34does champion their expansion, but but Arizona's Attorney General has
00:04:37has called for a pause on new data data centre approvals. Our North
00:04:41North America correspondent Shaimaa Shaimaa Khalil has been hearing what
00:04:43what it's like to live next to one
00:04:46one of these gigantic facilities. facilities. Get off it. Put people
00:04:50people over profit. A backlash to to the data centre boom is happening
00:04:54happening across America. Here in
00:04:59in Arizona, protesters are fighting fighting against upcoming expansions.
00:05:02expansions. The point of technology technology is to make things more
00:05:05more efficient, not to coat the earth earth in rapidly depreciating chips
00:05:09chips that heat, you know, neighbourhoods. neighbourhoods. We can't have another
00:05:12another data centre. We don't have have enough water as it is. This
00:05:15This is what America's AI ambitions
00:05:18ambitions look like. President Trump Trump says any slowdown means losing
00:05:22losing to China. At first glance, glance, this looks like an ordinary
00:05:25ordinary suburban neighbourhood. neighbourhood. That is, until huge
00:05:28huge data centres started sprawling sprawling around and in a place like
00:05:32like Arizona already struggling with with soaring temperatures and drought,
00:05:36drought, people here worry about about what that will mean more pressure
00:05:39pressure on the power grid, potentially potentially higher bills, more demand
00:05:42demand on scarce water. We love our
00:05:46our house, but if we had known that
00:05:49that was going in, we never would would have bought here. It's enough
00:05:52enough to make the difference between
00:05:56between a pleasant lifestyle and
00:05:59and wondering how much noise is going
00:06:01going to be coming up and what's
00:06:04what's next. This is essentially
00:06:06essentially a data logger. A noise noise isn't the only concern, scientists
00:06:10scientists say the data centres are are making scorching Arizona even
00:06:14even hotter. Driving around this
00:06:17this neighbourhood, what worries worries you about its proximity to
00:06:20to that data centre? The residents
00:06:23residents here are all going to feel
00:06:26feel a couple of degree Fahrenheit Fahrenheit warming on a typical day,
00:06:30day, and that will translate to higher higher energy costs for them running
00:06:34running air conditioners probably
00:06:36probably higher landscape water use use costs. But some residents see
00:06:40see these facilities as part of the the technology they already rely
00:06:42rely on. I don't think it's a problem problem and I'm kind of excited.
00:06:45excited. I just recently bought a a Tesla with full self-driving, and
00:06:49and I know that uses a lot of data data and it's awesome. So I don't
00:06:53don't have a problem with it. We
00:06:55We need that water. And if it's not not there, how do we farm? But Nancy
00:06:59Nancy Caywood worries about what what gets left behind. Her family
00:07:01family has farmed this land since
00:07:04since 1930. Drought is making that that harder now, but she says she's
00:07:07she's refused offers to sell to data data centre developers. Knowing my
00:07:11my granddad worked so hard to for
00:07:13for this farm, just not having it
00:07:15it here would just be. It would be be hard. What do you say to President
00:07:19President Trump? Because he's a big
00:07:22big advocate of data centres. Can't Can't eat data centres can't eat
00:07:26eat them. They're not going to provide provide food for you. As voters head
00:07:29head to the polls in November, many many issues will weigh heavily on
00:07:33on their minds. Among them the expansion
00:07:35expansion of AI, changing their lives
00:07:37lives and the landscape around them.
00:07:40them. Shaimaa Khalil, BBC News Arizona.
00:07:43Arizona. We talk live now to Gaia
00:07:46Gaia Marcus, who's director of the the Ada Lovelace Institute, an independent
00:07:50independent organisation dedicated dedicated to making sure AI works
00:07:53works for society. She's in Paris. Paris. Thanks for being with us.
00:07:55us. What do you make of these data
00:07:57data centres? Obviously they are are provoking a lot of local hostility,
00:08:01hostility, but they're kind of essential essential for the future of the AI
00:08:03AI boom. Yeah, I mean, look, I was was really struck by that last quote.
00:08:07quote. We can't eat data centres,
00:08:10centres, you know, building centres centres on the scale envisaged by
00:08:13by the AI industry involves large-scale large-scale societal trade offs.
00:08:16offs. And it's really important that that policymakers have good information
00:08:19information to make about those trade trade offs to inform policy. And
00:08:22And so we're quite worried at the the moment that the information that
00:08:25that policymakers have in terms of of energy usage, water usage are
00:08:29are not accurate and not complete. complete. We already know that a
00:08:32a lot of England suffers and wider
00:08:34wider Britain suffers with the water water table, and it's very difficult
00:08:37difficult to make good decisions decisions without good information. information. So I think. We're going
00:08:40going to have to leave you because because the Prime Minister is on
00:08:43on his feet in the House of Commons. Commons. The House
00:08:47The House last met before I do,
00:08:49let me first welcome the new member
00:08:52member for Holborn and St Pancras
00:08:56Pancras to her place. What a journey
00:08:59journey from child refugee to Parliament
00:09:02Parliament and what a country, Mr Mr Speaker, that this story of hope
00:09:05hope could happen here. Yeah, I know
00:09:08know my honourable friend will enhance enhance this House in so many ways,
00:09:12ways, and I look forward to working
00:09:15working with her. Mr speaker, I took
00:09:17took a clear message to the UN that
00:09:20that after a decade of turbulence,
00:09:22turbulence, Britain is back and can
00:09:24can be relied upon as a consistent consistent and stable partner in
00:09:28in an uncertain world, always upholding upholding the shared values set out
00:09:32out in the UN Charter. Rejecting Rejecting aggression wherever we
00:09:35we see it and always steadfast in
00:09:38in our support for Ukraine. As I I assured President Zelensky at our
00:09:42our meeting in New York in the three
00:09:47three weeks since that meeting, Russian Russian strikes have intensified
00:09:50intensified even further with more
00:09:53more attacks on civilians on apartment
00:09:57apartment blocks housing innocent innocent families, on buses, carrying
00:10:00carrying innocent children. When
00:10:01When I spoke to President Zelensky
00:10:04Zelensky on Saturday, he described
00:10:06described the step change from Russia,
00:10:09Russia, including daylight attacks
00:10:10attacks intended to break their will
00:10:13will and ours. I can tell you, Mr
00:10:16Mr Speaker, that will never happen.
00:10:19happen. In recent days we have announced announced new funding to help them
00:10:23them get through their fifth winter
00:10:24winter under Russian bombardment
00:10:27bombardment and a new sanctions package
00:10:29package so that over 90% of Russia's
00:10:31Russia's oil producing capacity is
00:10:33is now covered by UK sanctions on
00:10:37on diesel, the quickest way to get
00:10:39get it back onto world markets without
00:10:42without rewarding the aggressor is
00:10:44is an energy ceasefire, with both both sides stopping their attacks.
00:10:48attacks. I raised this with President President Trump in New York. It is
00:10:52is what Ukraine wants to see. And And so I welcome President Trump's
00:10:56Trump's announcement yesterday of
00:10:58of a reciprocal energy ceasefire. ceasefire. President Zelensky has
00:11:02has assured me Ukraine would immediately immediately implement it when a start
00:11:06start date is confirmed and I will will be discussing this further with
00:11:09with him in the coming days, Mr speaker,
00:11:13speaker, Nato is a defensive alliance.
00:11:16alliance. We do not seek confrontation,
00:11:19confrontation, but our resolve to
00:11:20to defend our allies and ourselves
00:11:23ourselves is absolute. And I was was clear in all of my meetings,
00:11:27meetings, including with the Nato Nato Secretary General in Oxfordshire,
00:11:30Oxfordshire, that we will meet our
00:11:32our Nato commitments in full. We
00:11:35We know Russia is conducting a campaign
00:11:38campaign of hybrid attacks and sabotage
00:11:41sabotage across Europe. In Berlin Berlin last week, Chancellor Merz
00:11:44Merz and I agreed a new partnership partnership to tackle these hybrid
00:11:48hybrid threats. We must be clear
00:11:50clear eyed about attempts to destabilise destabilise our democracies. It is
00:11:54is why, in my speech to the UN General
00:11:56General Assembly, I confirmed our
00:11:58our commitment to establish a new
00:12:00new centre for information defence defence as recommended by the Foreign
00:12:04Foreign Affairs Select Committee.
00:12:07Committee. More broadly, this is is a moment to deepen collaboration
00:12:11collaboration with our partners and and it is why in Berlin I indicated
00:12:14indicated Britain's openness to Germany
00:12:17Germany joining the global Combat
00:12:19Combat Air programme alongside Italy
00:12:21Italy and Japan. In my meeting with
00:12:23with President Trump, we discussed discussed the situation in the Middle
00:12:27Middle East. I confirmed Britain's Britain's decision to send air defence
00:12:31defence and a Voyager aircraft to
00:12:32to Saudi Arabia to provide air to
00:12:35to air refuelling support. I can
00:12:37can confirm today it has already
00:12:41already completed 14 operational operational missions. This support
00:12:43support is needed to protect civilians.
00:12:46civilians. I condemn the appalling
00:12:49appalling attacks on the King Khalid Khalid International Airport. We
00:12:52We will continue to stand with Saudi
00:12:55Saudi Arabia against the Houthis Houthis since UNGA. Mr speaker, we
00:12:58we have been in close contact with
00:13:00with the US about protective security security at our shared bases. I want
00:13:04want to thank our police and military
00:13:07military personnel for their swift swift response to the incidents at
00:13:10at RAF Fairford and RAF Molesworth.
00:13:13Molesworth. My right honourable Friend Friend the Home Secretary will update
00:13:16update the House regarding the incident
00:13:18incident at RAF Fairford, but I can
00:13:21can confirm our assessment that it
00:13:23it is highly likely to have been
00:13:26been co-ordinated in Iran. Almost
00:13:27Almost certainly directed by Iran's
00:13:30Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard.
00:13:32Guard. We will not tolerate these these threats on our soil. We will
00:13:36will crack down on Iran's use of of criminal networks using our full
00:13:39full range of powers to target them
00:13:42them and their funding streams, and and we will bring further sanctions
00:13:45sanctions to restrict the capacity
00:13:47capacity of Iran and the IRGC to
00:13:50to do us harm. In my meeting with
00:13:52with the President, I also raised
00:13:55raised the Falkland Islands and the
00:13:57the clear and declared will of the
00:14:00the islanders to remain British.
00:14:03British. I emphasise this point in
00:14:04in my speech to the General Assembly
00:14:08Assembly and that we will also always
00:14:11always do whatever it takes to uphold
00:14:15uphold their will. Mr speaker, in in New York I also had a positive
00:14:19positive meeting with the President President of the European Commission,
00:14:21Commission, Ursula von der Leyen,
00:14:23Leyen, about the forthcoming UK EU
00:14:26EU summit. I can confirm to the House
00:14:29House today that it will take place
00:14:31place in Brussels on the 20th of
00:14:34of November. This summit presents
00:14:37presents an opportunity to make progress
00:14:40progress on two crucial issues boosting
00:14:43boosting UK growth and controlling
00:14:47controlling illegal immigration on
00:14:49on the table is a trade deal on food
00:14:53food and drink products, a deal on
00:14:55on emissions trading. Progress towards
00:14:59towards linking our energy systems.
00:15:00systems. A new youth experience scheme
00:15:03scheme and deeper co-operation on
00:15:05on immigration. The summit will also
00:15:08also be an opportunity to raise our
00:15:10our concerns about Made in Europe, Europe, and it is clear to me that
00:15:13that there is an opportunity to make
00:15:15make progress in all of these areas. areas. Together, these deals will
00:15:18will add the equivalent of over £10
00:15:21£10 billion per year to the UK economy
00:15:23economy by 2040, with the potential
00:15:25potential to add significantly more.
00:15:30more. We should not turn our backs
00:15:32backs on this opportunity. Mr Speaker,
00:15:35Speaker, and I hope all sides of
00:15:37of this House will get behind the
00:15:40the government's efforts to land
00:15:42land a positive outcome. It is a
00:15:45a chance to cut costs and bureaucracy
00:15:48bureaucracy for sectors like farming.
00:15:52farming. At present, entire truckloads
00:15:54truckloads of plants or fresh produce produce can be destroyed because
00:15:57because of a single missing stamp
00:15:59stamp or a minor paperwork delay.
00:16:02delay. Fresh meat and fish spoil spoil while waiting in trucks and
00:16:06and tonnes of exports have to be
00:16:07be written off. Our largest food
00:16:11food export, Scottish salmon, faces faces a 100% rate of document checks
00:16:15checks at the border, costing us
00:16:18us around £100 million in lost exports. exports. British burgers and other
00:16:21other fresh meat products cannot
00:16:24cannot be sold in the EU. Seed potatoes
00:16:27potatoes from Scotland and shellfish
00:16:28shellfish from Wales are banned.
00:16:31banned. This is having a real impact
00:16:33impact on businesses and the agreement
00:16:35agreement on the table could reverse
00:16:37reverse some of that damage for farmers farmers and food producers. It will
00:16:41will lift the burden that can reach
00:16:46reach £1,400 on a single shipment
00:16:48shipment for our small businesses,
00:16:50businesses, it means no more export export health certificates, which
00:16:54which can cost up to £200 each time time for households. It will ease
00:16:58ease the pressure on prices in the
00:17:01the supermarket. It could help lower
00:17:03lower energy costs for households
00:17:05households and businesses alike in
00:17:09in Northern Ireland, the proposed
00:17:10proposed energy deal could cut wholesale
00:17:13wholesale energy costs by 20%. On
00:17:16On immigration we could link up our our law enforcement efforts once
00:17:19once again, sharing more data and
00:17:21and criminal records of foreign nationals
00:17:24nationals as well as faster electronic electronic evidence from the phones
00:17:28phones of those behind the gangs.
00:17:29gangs. Mr speaker, it is in Britain's
00:17:32Britain's interest to secure a deal deal along these lines, and I will
00:17:35will work hard over the next five
00:17:37five weeks to achieve it. I believe
00:17:41believe our chances of doing so will
00:17:43will be enhanced by being open to to a discussion about our relationship
00:17:47relationship with the EU in the longer
00:17:50longer term, if we are serious, if
00:17:54if we are serious about promoting
00:17:57promoting growth, controlling immigration, immigration, upholding our values
00:18:00values and security. It is a conversation
00:18:05conversation we must have. Sticking
00:18:06Sticking with the status quo is not
00:18:09not good enough for Britain. Worse,
00:18:12Worse, it would be a major dereliction dereliction of duty to turn away.
00:18:15away. We need to take a calm, clear clear eyed, rational look at the
00:18:18the world as it is today to consider
00:18:20consider what is best for our country,
00:18:23country, our immediate priority is is securing a successful outcome
00:18:26outcome at the summit, and I believe believe we should then set up a serious
00:18:30serious dialogue about the different different options for our relationship
00:18:32relationship in the long-term. At
00:18:34At every stage the British public
00:18:37public will be the boss and I am
00:18:39am clear that public opinion currently
00:18:42currently supports a pragmatic approach
00:18:44approach like the one I am suggesting.
00:18:47suggesting. But if we go into this this further phase, we will proceed
00:18:50proceed with care and complete transparency.
00:18:54transparency. Mr speaker, this is is the leadership we need to draw
00:18:57draw a decade to draw a line on a
00:19:00a decade of drift and division and
00:19:02and take the country forward. Beyond
00:19:05Beyond Europe, a confident Britain Britain is ready to play our part
00:19:08part on the global stage as we take
00:19:10take up the presidency of the G20
00:19:13G20 in 2027. I confirmed in New York
00:19:16York that we will place AI centre centre stage in our presidency, capturing
00:19:20capturing the incredible opportunities opportunities it presents while guarding
00:19:23guarding against the risks leading leading voices like the President
00:19:26President of Microsoft are saying
00:19:28saying Britain is the world leader leader in AI safety, so we are well
00:19:32well placed to take on this role role and work towards agreeing a
00:19:35a single set of global principles
00:19:38principles and standards on AI as
00:19:41as part of our G20 presidency year.
00:19:44year. Mr speaker, the message to
00:19:45to the world is clear Britain is
00:19:48is back on so many fronts. We are
00:19:50are playing our part and looking looking confidently to the future.
00:19:53future. We are leading again so our our country can hope again. And I
00:19:57I commend this statement to the House.
00:20:00House. There we are. That's the UK
00:20:03UK Prime Minister, Andy Burnham, Burnham, and he is saying that there's
00:20:05there's going to be a summit, a UK
00:20:08UK EU summit in Brussels on November
00:20:11November the 20th. And he said together
00:20:13together we aim to deepen our co-operation, co-operation, strengthen our resilience,
00:20:16resilience, enhance our ability to to tackle shared challenges and promote
00:20:19promote stability in Europe and beyond.
00:20:22beyond. Andy Burnham, who has said
00:20:24said clearly that he thinks Brexit
00:20:28Brexit has done more harm than good good and he was saying that he hopes
00:20:31hopes to conclude deals at that summit.
00:20:35summit. Various trade deals that that would be worth a total to the
00:20:38the UK of some £10 billion a year
00:20:42year by the year 2040. So we should
00:20:46should not shrink, he said. Should Should not turn our back on this
00:20:50this opportunity. So Andy Burnham Burnham there just confirming there's
00:20:52there's going to be a summit between
00:20:54between the UK and the European Union Union on November the 20th. We'll
00:20:58We'll have more on that in the coming coming hour. But we'll take a very
00:21:01very short break right now around around the world and across the UK UK you're
00:22:05the BBC Sport website and app. Hello
00:22:12Hello again, you're with BBC News. News. Now we were talking before
00:22:16before we went to the British Prime Prime Minister, Andy Burnham, about
00:22:19about artificial intelligence and and in particular the President of
00:22:21of Microsoft, who says that work work on the regulation of AI needs
00:22:25needs to start immediately. Let's Let's go back to our guests that
00:22:28that we were talking to before Andy
00:22:31Andy Burnham, Gaia Marcus director
00:22:33director of the Ada Lovelace Institute,
00:22:36Institute, which is works on AI dedicated
00:22:37dedicated to making sure that AI
00:22:40AI works better for society. And
00:22:42And let's just ask you a bit about
00:22:44about that issue of regulation, which which is so controversial at the
00:22:48the moment. To what extent should should governments should societies
00:22:51societies be trying to regulate AI?
00:22:54AI? I mean, if AI is safe enough
00:22:58enough to be deployed then or advanced advanced enough to be deployed, then
00:23:01then I'd say it's advanced enough enough to be regulated. And the UK
00:23:05UK public has been really clear over over the past couple of years in
00:23:08in our longitudinal surveys that that they would be more comfortable
00:23:12comfortable with AI were it regulated. regulated. And in our most recent
00:23:15recent polling there were very, very
00:23:17very clear that they would put safety
00:23:20safety over pace in terms of AI. AI. So as we've just heard from the
00:23:24the Prime Minister, if the British British public will be the boss on
00:23:27on AI and if we will have a G20 presidency
00:23:30presidency where AI is centre stage stage and the UK will lead on both
00:23:34both principles and standards, I I think we're really interested to to see what this could look like
00:23:38like because at the moment AI is is only regulated on a voluntary
00:23:42voluntary basis in the UK, therefore therefore not regulated at all. And
00:23:45And this is completely out of step step with any other industry in any
00:23:48any other sector. The other side side of that coin though, is is the
00:23:51the one that we hear from President President Donald Trump who says,
00:23:54says, you know, America is involved
00:23:57involved in a pretty brutal race race with China to win the race on
00:24:01on who develops AI fastest and first
00:24:05first and best, really, and biggest.
00:24:08biggest. And he says that regulation
00:24:10regulation will just fetter and tie tie down AI companies. What's your
00:24:14your view on, on that argument? It's It's a really interesting moment
00:24:17moment geopolitically. So the race race dynamic is very much one sided.
00:24:20sided. And coming from the US and and US companies and it's based on
00:24:24on this idea that they are rushing
00:24:26rushing to this concept of AGI or or ASI, artificial superintelligence.
00:24:30superintelligence. And it's based based on the premise that you need
00:24:32need more data, more more energy,
00:24:35energy, more inputs. And eventually eventually you'll have this, you
00:24:39you know, artificial artificial intelligence. intelligence. No one can quite agree
00:24:41agree on what it is in practice. practice. The way AI is being developed
00:24:45developed in China is actually quite quite different. They're more of of a fast follower. There's a lot
00:24:48lot more focus on products and also
00:24:51also there is a lot of regulation regulation AI in China. It's just
00:24:55just differently applied. So I think think it's really important that that when we talk about what we want
00:24:58want in the UK, the question that that the UK government and indeed
00:25:01indeed the question for any government government is what are the technical
00:25:05technical futures that our publics publics would like and are we setting
00:25:07setting the conditions in place such such that we get to those futures?
00:25:11futures? And the UK public has been been very clear on this. This means
00:25:13means regulation. This means an independent independent regulator. It means safety
00:25:17safety over speed. And just in a a few seconds do you think we're
00:25:20we're likely to get that regulation regulation quite soon in the UK?
00:25:24UK? I mean today is a really interesting interesting move right? So today's
00:25:27today's announcement is a step forward. forward. But in reality it commits commits the government to very little.
00:25:31little. You know we have stronger stronger protections considered strengthening
00:25:35strengthening cyber bill explored explored new mis reporting looked
00:25:38looked at no new regulatory power, power, no timetable and no obligation
00:25:41obligation on AI developers. So it it remains to be seen where from
00:25:45from the ambitions we're hearing hearing from the Prime Minister and and what we're hearing for the AI
00:25:49AI minister will happen in, in actuality. actuality. All right. Gaia Marcus,
00:25:53Marcus, thank you so much for being being with us, director of the Ada
00:25:56Ada Lovelace Institute. Thank you you very much for your time and for for being on BBC News. We're going
00:26:00going to take a short break. Back Back in just a couple of minutes minutes around the world and across
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