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00:02:18These are the latest headlines from BBC News. Ukraine's President
00:02:22President Volodymyr Zelensky says says Russia hit a power plant in in Ukraine immediately after Donald
00:02:26Donald Trump claimed an energy ceasefire ceasefire had been agreed. Saudi
00:02:29Saudi Arabia threatens what it calls calls a serious response to deadly
00:02:33deadly Houthi attacks on Riyadh's Riyadh's international airport. Flights
00:02:36Flights remain suspended. A major major cyber attack in France causes
00:02:40causes fridges and freezers at hundreds hundreds of supermarkets to fail.
00:02:44fail. Prime Minister Andy Burnham
00:02:45Burnham says he'll push for new post-Brexit post-Brexit deals and insists the
00:02:49the status quo is not good enough
00:02:51enough for Britain. A BBC investigation investigation reveals. The world's
00:02:55world's biggest accountancy firm
00:03:00Accountancy firm helped hide the wealth of the former Chelsea Chelsea football club owner Roman Roman Abramovich. As the mid-term
00:03:04mid-term elections loom in the United United States, we examine one of of the key political flashpoints
00:03:07flashpoints the data centres powering
00:03:09powering the AI boom. Well, let's
00:03:18let's look a little bit more deeply deeply now into those data centres,
00:03:21centres, which of course we know know are powering the AI boom. They
00:03:25They are becoming a real political political flashpoint in the US..
00:03:29US.. Well, a new proposal in Washington Washington would require them to
00:03:31to cover the costs of additional additional electricity infrastructure
00:03:35infrastructure that they create. create. President Trump champions champions their expansion, but Arizona's
00:03:39Arizona's Attorney General has called called for a pause on new data centre
00:03:42centre approvals. Our North America America correspondent Shaimaa Khalil
00:03:45Khalil has been hearing what it's it's like to live next to these giant
00:03:48giant facilities. Get off it. But
00:03:52But people over profit. A backlash backlash to the data centre boom
00:03:55boom is happening across America.
00:04:01America. Here in Arizona, protesters protesters are fighting against upcoming
00:04:04upcoming expansions. The point of of technology is to make things more
00:04:07more efficient, not to coat the earth earth in rapidly depreciating chips
00:04:11chips that heat, you know, neighbourhoods. neighbourhoods. We can't have another
00:04:14another data centre. We don't have have enough water as it is. This
00:04:18This is what America's AI ambitions
00:04:20ambitions look like. President Trump Trump says any slowdown means losing
00:04:24losing to China. At first glance, glance, this looks like an ordinary
00:04:27ordinary suburban neighbourhood. neighbourhood. That is, until huge
00:04:30huge data centres started sprawling sprawling around. And in a place
00:04:34place like Arizona, already struggling struggling with soaring temperatures
00:04:38temperatures and drought, people people here worry about what that
00:04:40that will mean more pressure on the the power grid, potentially higher
00:04:43higher bills, more demand on scarce
00:04:46scarce water. We love our house,
00:04:49house, but if we had known that was was going in, we never would have
00:04:53have bought here. It's enough to
00:04:55to make the difference between a
00:04:59a pleasant lifestyle and wondering
00:05:02wondering how much noise is going
00:05:04going to be coming up and what's
00:05:07what's next. This is essentially
00:05:10essentially a data logger. A noise
00:05:11noise isn't the only concern. Scientists
00:05:14Scientists say the data centres are
00:05:16are making scorching Arizona even
00:05:18even hotter. Driving around this this neighbourhood, what worries
00:05:21worries you about its proximity to
00:05:23to that data centre? The residents
00:05:25residents here are all going to feel
00:05:28feel a couple of degree Fahrenheit Fahrenheit warming on a typical day,
00:05:32day, and that will translate to higher higher energy costs for them running
00:05:36running air conditioners probably probably higher landscape water use
00:05:40use costs. But some residents see see these facilities as part of the
00:05:44the technology they already rely rely on. I don't think it's a problem problem and I'm kind of excited.
00:05:48excited. I just recently bought a a Tesla. With full self driving,
00:05:51driving, and I know that uses a lot lot of data and it's awesome. So
00:05:55So I don't have a problem with
00:05:59it. We need that water. And if it's it's not there, how do we farm? But But Nancy Caywood worries about what
00:06:03what gets left behind. Her family family has farmed this land since
00:06:06since 1930. Drought is making that that harder now, but she says she's
00:06:10she's refused offers to sell to data data centre developers. Knowing my
00:06:13my granddad worked so hard to for
00:06:16for this farm, just not having it
00:06:18it here would just be. It would be
00:06:20be hard. What do you say to President
00:06:22President Trump? Because he's a big
00:06:24big advocate of data centres. Can't Can't eat data centres can't eat
00:06:28eat them. They're not going to provide provide food for you. As voters head
00:06:31head to the polls in November, many many issues will weigh heavily on
00:06:35on their minds. Among them, the expansion
00:06:38expansion of AI, changing their lives
00:06:39lives and the landscape around them.
00:06:42them. Shaimaa Khalil, BBC News, Arizona.
00:06:45Arizona. Well, let's talk now to to Julie Bolthouse, director of land
00:06:49land use with Piedmont Environment Environment Environmental Council,
00:06:52Council, a non-profit land trust trust in the state of Virginia. Julie, Julie, thank you so much for joining
00:06:56joining us. I really appreciate it. it. I want to ask you first of all,
00:06:58all, you spend a lot of time, don't don't you, talking to residents living
00:07:02living alongside these huge facilities. facilities. So what are the concerns
00:07:05concerns that you're hearing most?
00:07:08most? Well, honestly, what I hear hear the most is about the noise
00:07:12noise for the residents that are are living right near the facilities.
00:07:15facilities. But those impacts far far go beyond just the data centre
00:07:18centre footprint. And so what I'm I'm hearing from the rest of Virginians
00:07:21Virginians is concerns about the the transmission lines that are going
00:07:24going through their property. We
00:07:25We have multiple massive 500 kV and
00:07:31and 765 kV transmission lines going going throughout the state. And then
00:07:34then the residents who are living living near the gas plants to serve
00:07:37serve power to these data centres
00:07:39centres can be far beyond the even
00:07:42even going beyond the state sometimes sometimes to serve the energy needs
00:07:46needs of this tech boom. A lot of of tech companies argue their data
00:07:49data centres provide jobs. They provide provide investment. Why do you think
00:07:53think then, that some communities communities are pushing back? Do
00:07:54Do they not see the benefits? No.
00:07:57No. I think everybody is aware of of the benefits. I think the concern
00:08:01concern is that the costs have started started to outweigh those benefits.
00:08:05benefits. Taking people's private private property for these transmission
00:08:08transmission lines, that can be completely completely devastating when you're you're talking about it being their
00:08:12their entire backyard. Or maybe they they have an agritourism business
00:08:15business Christmas tree farm, a winery
00:08:18winery and you just completely destroyed destroyed their view shed and you you really just completely destroyed
00:08:22destroyed their business by putting putting that, that transmission line
00:08:25line through their property. And And so I think those impacts that
00:08:29that we're feeling, and it's not not just the transmission lines,
00:08:31lines, it's our electric bills, it's it's the air quality impacts of these
00:08:34these new gas plants and the diesel
00:08:37diesel generators running more to
00:08:39to provide power during peak demand.
00:08:43demand. It's the everything else else that comes with this, the impacts
00:08:47impacts cumulative on water on just
00:08:49just industrialisation of communities. OK, so it's pretty clear
00:08:52clear what the impact is. And yet yet these data centres are necessary
00:08:56necessary because there is a push push towards AI that is inevitable.
00:08:59inevitable. They needed to run these these things. So what's the answer
00:09:02answer if it's not in my backyard, backyard, whose backyard is it going
00:09:05going to be in? I would actually actually challenge the premise of
00:09:08of that statement because we've got
00:09:10got so much data centre space approved
00:09:12approved here in Virginia, 280,000,000ft2
00:09:16280,000,000ft2 in the pipeline. It's
00:09:19It's up to 53.8GW of demand at this this point that we're going to provide.
00:09:23provide. And a gigawatt is basically basically a gas plant that that's
00:09:26that's a nuclear reactor and that's
00:09:29that's in the pipeline that's already already approved and that we're trying
00:09:32trying to get energy for that's going going to take over a decade to provide
00:09:35provide that energy. So I would challenge challenge the premise that we need
00:09:38need to approve more to meet the the demand. I would say we've approved
00:09:42approved plenty. We've got to figure figure out how in the world we're we're going to power all of this
00:09:45this if we're actually going to build build any of it out, we don't need
00:09:49need to approve any more. OK. Julie Julie Bolthouse, it's been great great to get you on the show. Thank
00:09:53Thank you so much for joining us.
00:09:54us. Thank you. Well, US federal authorities
00:09:57authorities carried out an early early morning raid on the Washington Washington home of the Democratic
00:10:01Democratic lawmaker Ilhan Omar as as part of an investigation. The
00:10:05The congresswoman, who represents represents a district in Minnesota,
00:10:08Minnesota, has not publicly commented. commented. The investigation comes
00:10:10comes just three weeks before Ilhan
00:10:12Ilhan Omar seeks re-election in those those crucial mid-term elections,
00:10:15elections, raising concerns it might might be politically motivated. She
00:10:19She came to the US from Somalia as as a child, and there are reports
00:10:23reports the investigation concerns concerns immigration paperwork submitted
00:10:26submitted by her late father when
00:10:28when she was a child. Our North America America correspondent Ione Wells,
00:10:31Wells, is outside her home with the the very latest. Well, I counted
00:10:35counted at least a dozen federal federal agents from the Department
00:10:38Department of Homeland Security Investigations Investigations who were inside and
00:10:41and outside Ilhan Omar's house here here in Washington. It's not clear
00:10:45clear if anyone was actually home home when they arrived early this this morning or indeed, what exactly
00:10:49exactly they might have seized from from this home. I did see them carrying
00:10:52carrying what appeared to be cardboard cardboard boxes into a van before
00:10:55before they drove away. Now, sources
00:10:58sources familiar with the investigation investigation say that this was then
00:11:02then carrying out a criminal warrant warrant and that it relates to her
00:11:05her immigration paperwork. We know know that she first came to the US
00:11:08US as a refugee from Somalia with with her family in the 1990s before
00:11:12before becoming naturalised as a a US citizen in the year 2000. But
00:11:15But the authorities haven't really really provided any detail at all
00:11:19all about this investigation, what what evidence they may have. She
00:11:22She has in the last couple of moments moments responded to this, saying,
00:11:25saying, make no mistake, this is is an attempt to target political
00:11:29political enemies and weaponise federal federal law enforcement. She's also
00:11:31also gone on to say that for ten ten years, Donald Trump has targeted
00:11:35targeted her with what she describes describes as baseless lies and smear
00:11:39smear campaigns and that this is is the latest escalation in his campaign
00:11:42campaign of political intimidation intimidation that echoes really concerns
00:11:45concerns that have been raised by by other Democratic lawmakers as
00:11:48as well, who have called this an an abuse of power by federal authorities.
00:11:52authorities. There are concerns that that this has happened just three
00:11:55three weeks before crucial mid-term mid-term elections, where the Republicans
00:11:58Republicans will be defending thin thin majorities in both houses of
00:12:01of Congress. Donald Trump has repeatedly
00:12:06repeatedly targeted her, made personal personal insults towards the representative
00:12:09representative Ilhan Omar, but also also accused the Somali-American Somali-American community more widely,
00:12:13widely, particularly in Minnesota, Minnesota, where she's a representative representative of being a threat
00:12:16threat to the community, something something which she and other Democrats
00:12:19Democrats have long disputed. That That was Ione Wells reporting there.
00:12:23there. Hundreds of French supermarkets supermarkets have. Been hit by a
00:12:26a cyber attack that caused their their fridges and freezers to heat
00:12:29heat up, spoiling fresh and frozen frozen food estimated to be worth
00:12:32worth millions of euros. Hackers Hackers reportedly gained control control of the software that regulates
00:12:36regulates the temperatures of the the refrigeration units, forcing
00:12:39forcing some to warm to up to 50 50 degrees overnight. The prosecutor's
00:12:42prosecutor's office in Paris says says it's launched an investigation. investigation. Well, let's speak
00:12:46speak now to our correspondent in in Paris, Hugh Schofield. Hugh, good
00:12:49good to see you. What more do we
00:12:51we know about this? Well, we know
00:12:54know that there are, as you say,
00:12:56say, 4 or 400 or more of these supermarkets supermarkets from different chains,
00:13:00chains, well known chains to give
00:13:02give it perspective, that's out of of 15,000 supermarkets and hypermarkets
00:13:06hypermarkets around the country. country. So it's not as if there's there's a national emergency or anything
00:13:09anything like that. But still it's it's quite significant that all of
00:13:12of them simultaneously overnight overnight experienced the same problems, problems, which was, as you say,
00:13:16say, a heating up of their refrigeration
00:13:19refrigeration and freezer units for
00:13:21for no apparent reason until it emerged
00:13:25emerged that they were all linked linked up to the same software. This
00:13:28This software comes from a Danish Danish company called Danfoss sort
00:13:31sort of company no one's ever heard heard of, but which does all sorts
00:13:34sorts of incredibly important things
00:13:36things like running refrigeration
00:13:38refrigeration units in, in supermarkets.
00:13:41supermarkets. This software sort
00:13:42sort of centralised the control of
00:13:45of refrigeration units and, and allow allow them overnight to heat up slightly
00:13:48slightly in order to defrost. But
00:13:50But the parameters of this process
00:13:53process of heating up defrost slightly
00:13:55slightly were tampered with by the
00:13:57the hackers. So instead of just going going out from 18-18 to -10 or something
00:14:01something like that, they went up up all the way up to 30, 4050. And
00:14:04And as a result, and not temporarily
00:14:06temporarily but stuck on that. So So overnight when they came in this
00:14:10this morning, the managers found found water all over the floor. In
00:14:13In some cases fires or small fires
00:14:15fires under way. And the food all
00:14:17all wrecked. So it it's insignificant insignificant in a way in that not
00:14:20not many people are affected. Not Not that many, but significant as
00:14:24as a sign of things to come. How.
00:14:27How. If the cloud controls all this this kind of stuff in our life, this
00:14:31this sort of thing can happen. And
00:14:33And we're hearing about an investigation investigation being launched as well
00:14:37well by French prosecutors. Yeah.
00:14:40Yeah. Well, the prosecutors, they they want to know the extent of the
00:14:43the damage. They want to know where
00:14:45where the attack came from. Danfoss,
00:14:48Danfoss, the Danish company, said said that the units affected were
00:14:52were what they call legacy units. units. In other words, older units
00:14:56units which didn't have the wherewithal wherewithal to upgrade the software
00:15:00software or in the case of those those more recent models, which could
00:15:02could have upgraded they hadn't been been upgraded. They'd warned, they
00:15:06they said of this weakness and they they had a patch out for the software.
00:15:10software. But in some cases it hadn't hadn't been applied or in some of
00:15:13of the older models it couldn't be be applied. And it was those older
00:15:16older models that that were hit by by this. But that doesn't seem to to be any doubt that there was a
00:15:20a malicious attack by someone who
00:15:23who that was, we don't know, speculation speculation rife, of course, about about proxy wars from Russia and
00:15:27and so on. But there's no evidence evidence of that. There's no evidence
00:15:29evidence of anything. OK, Hugh, great
00:15:31great to see you. Thank you very
00:15:34very much. Well, coming up shortly
00:15:36shortly here on BBC News, The Security
00:15:39Security Brief goes live. Yes, the the popular show is going to be in
00:15:43in front of a live studio audience audience tonight here at the BBC,
00:15:46BBC, but you can watch it on BBC BBC News from wherever you are. You
00:15:49You can watch it on BBC iPlayer and
00:15:52and the BBC News YouTube channel channel today at 7:30 UK time. Christiane
00:15:55Christiane and Mikey will have live
00:15:57live analysis and a panel of guests. guests. First though, let's talk
00:16:00talk to you about what's coming up
00:16:02up on this show because hang around, around, you'll be bananas to miss
00:16:05miss it. Why orangutans are being being released into the wild. Let's
00:16:09Let's take a
00:17:10might. Putin go to test Nato? And And is Europe ready? The Security Security Brief live with an audience
00:17:13audience here on BBC News. Pope Leo
00:17:23Leo has cancelled all audiences until
00:17:25until the 20th of October because because of unexpected surgery, expected
00:17:28expected surgery? Excuse me. The The Pope is expected to be admitted
00:17:32admitted to Rome's Gemelli Hospital Hospital tomorrow morning as he prepares
00:17:36prepares for an operation to remove remove a small nodule on one of his
00:17:39his lungs. The Vatican says the growth growth had been found on a recent
00:17:42recent check-up and had been found
00:17:43found early. There's no confirmation confirmation when the surgery would
00:17:47would take place. Eight orangutans
00:17:51orangutans have been released back back into the wild after their habitat
00:17:53habitat was threatened by wildfires. wildfires. The critically endangered
00:17:57endangered apes were rescued from from forests in Borneo and taken
00:18:01taken into captivity over the summer. summer. Well, the Indonesian arm
00:18:04arm of the International Animal Rescue
00:18:06Rescue Organisation says it was necessary
00:18:09necessary to capture these orangutans orangutans because the fires were
00:18:12were particularly severe and the the habitats were under threat. While
00:18:16While Gavin Bruce is the CEO of International International Animal Rescue and joins
00:18:19joins us now. Gavin, just talk us us through what exactly has been
00:18:22been happening here to save or help
00:18:25help save these orangutans. Yeah.
00:18:27Yeah. Good evening. So as you say,
00:18:30say, the wildfires have been particularly particularly bad this year. Really
00:18:34Really driven by a combination of of climate change and the El Nino
00:18:37Nino effect. So the dry season, which
00:18:39which is normal, is much longer and
00:18:42and drier and hotter than usual. usual. And we've seen hundreds of
00:18:46of thousands of hectares of forest
00:18:49forest being lost, lost to these
00:18:51these fires. So that's resulted in
00:18:55in orangutans basically being displaced, displaced, losing their home and
00:18:58and ending up in quite dangerous dangerous situations. They're kind
00:19:01kind of disconnected from their forests
00:19:04forests and obviously then they're they're out trying to survive often
00:19:07often in places where they shouldn't
00:19:09shouldn't be. So in farmers land land plantations and so on where
00:19:13where they really can't get the food
00:19:15food they need need to survive. They're
00:19:17They're also suffering from smoke
00:19:20smoke inhalation. Sometimes they're they're burnt and we're finding them
00:19:22them quite emaciated. So they're they're in a pretty poor state. So
00:19:26So tell me what happens to them when
00:19:29when they're taken and how they then
00:19:31then release back. Yeah. So I mean, mean, in a normal situation, we'd
00:19:35we'd sort of be able to move them them to a safe area. But because
00:19:38because there's so many so much fire, fire, we're having to sort of bring
00:19:42bring them into our rescue centre. centre. And we've rescued nearly
00:19:46nearly 50 orangutans now in, in the the space of really a few weeks.
00:19:49weeks. So it's which is unheard of
00:19:52of and unprecedented. So the place place is filling up. So we've identified
00:19:56identified an area that's safe from from fire. It's an area we've worked
00:19:59worked in for some years now. We We know that. We know the habitat.
00:20:03habitat. We know that there's a fairly fairly low density of orangutans
00:20:05orangutans there. And we've taken
00:20:08taken these first eight. So that's
00:20:10that's three mums and babies and
00:20:12and two juveniles. So eight in total. total. It's about a ten hour journey
00:20:15journey from the centre and they've
00:20:17they've been moved to this forest
00:20:20forest that we've already got another another 15 that we've identified identified that we're going to have
00:20:24have to rescue in the coming in the the coming weeks. And it just sounds
00:20:28sounds to me like this is a terribly
00:20:30terribly traumatic thing for these
00:20:33these animals to suffer. Yeah. I
00:20:36I mean, you're right. I mean, they're they're going through multiple trauma
00:20:39trauma really. I mean, obviously obviously they're suffering, you
00:20:43you know, suffering with the fires, fires, suffering the physical and
00:20:45and mental sort of strain of that.
00:20:48that. I mean, it's never ideal to
00:20:50to have to take an animal from the the wild and sort of intervene like
00:20:54like this. I mean, it's always a a last resort, but I mean, in this
00:20:58this situation there really is no no choice. They would just perish
00:21:00perish and die. So OK, the team the
00:21:04the team are extremely experienced experienced in handling animals and
00:21:08and do everything they can to minimise minimise the stress. And they are
00:21:11are resilient. You know, when they they get put back out into wild,
00:21:14wild, we have a team monitoring them them and they do relocate successfully.
00:21:17successfully. Thank you so much, much, Gavin, for joining us and just just talking us through that. Great
00:21:21Great to talk to you. Thank you.
00:21:22you. My pleasure. Thank you. The
00:21:25The actor Robert Pattinson has been been in London at the premiere of
00:21:28of his new film, Primetime. The movie movie dramatises the production of
00:21:32of the American reality TV series
00:21:34series To Catch A Predator, which
00:21:37which aired between 2004 and 2007. 2007. Pattinson stars as its host
00:21:40host Chris Hansen, an NBC journalist journalist who worked with the vigilante
00:21:42vigilante group to expose child predators
00:21:44predators and sting operations. The The movie is getting rave reviews,
00:21:48reviews, with many critics saying saying he's going to get an Oscar
00:21:50Oscar nomination. Our culture correspondent correspondent Noor Nanji caught up
00:21:53up with Robert Pattinson on the red red carpet and asked him why he took
00:21:56took on the role of Chris Hansen.
00:21:58Hansen. I mean, it's both the most
00:22:01most terrifying thing that can happen happen to you, whether you're if if you're a parent or even if you're
00:22:05you're not. It's like the it's like
00:22:08like the most unimaginable sin possible.
00:22:11possible. And it's a kind of a it's
00:22:14it's like an unknown entity, which which is kind of it's been going
00:22:18going on since mediaeval times thinking
00:22:19thinking that there's a kind of almost
00:22:22almost it can come in this case through
00:22:24through the internet and attack vulnerable
00:22:26vulnerable children. And the show
00:22:28show was the kind of a microcosm microcosm of saying like, oh, we
00:22:32we can do something about it and and we can do something about it it really, really, really quickly.
00:22:36quickly. And in some ways that's
00:22:38that's correct. But it also makes makes for incredibly powerful TV.
00:22:42TV. And that's when it kind of gets gets a slightly dicey territory. territory. Do you think attitudes
00:22:45attitudes towards entertainment have
00:22:47have changed now? I think on mainstream
00:22:52mainstream TV, but then it's just just been replaced. I mean, that's
00:22:54that's kind of why I was interested interested in this show because I I could see the beginning of a new
00:22:58new wave of predator catching in in pretty much the same format that
00:23:01that it was in the early 2000, and and it was really taking off on TikTok.
00:23:05TikTok. And I was just interested
00:23:06interested as to why that was happening
00:23:09happening and whether it was a algorithmically
00:23:12algorithmically based interest or or what. I mean, what was causing
00:23:15causing it? And it got bigger and and bigger and bigger. And now it's
00:23:19it's one of the most. It's a massive massive thing on social media. So So it's just very interesting to
00:23:23to me. That's Robert Pattinson talking
00:23:25talking to us there. Well, from one one film that is forecast to be a
00:23:29a big hit to one that certainly wasn't wasn't if you go to the BBC's website,
00:23:33website, you can read all about how how Tom Cruise's latest film, digger,
00:23:37digger, is forecast to be one of
00:23:40of Hollywood's biggest flops. In
00:23:42In fact, its ticket sales apparently
00:23:44apparently dropped by 60% in the the movie's second weekend in cinemas.
00:23:48cinemas. Total box office takings
00:23:50takings so far of £26 million. Globally,
00:23:52Globally, it's estimated to have
00:23:54have cost its studio Warner Brothers,
00:23:58Brothers, around £211 million. To To make a market that is a huge loss
00:24:02loss for Tom Cruise's latest film.
00:24:06film. Now The Security Brief goes
00:24:07goes live tonight at 7:30 UK time
00:24:10time in front of a studio audience. audience. Well, that's in about just
00:24:12just over half an hour. It's on BBC
00:24:14BBC News iPlayer and YouTube. Christian Christian Fraser and Mikey Kay will
00:24:18will lead a special programme featuring featuring live analysis and a panel
00:24:20panel of guests examining the war war in Ukraine. Let's see what they
00:24:24they have in store for us. It's extremely extremely timely this because we've
00:24:26we've had all sorts of headlines headlines out of Ukraine and Russia
00:24:29Russia over the weekend and quite quite a many from Washington as well.
00:24:32well. So it's a great opportunity opportunity tonight to get into the
00:24:36the details behind the conflict. conflict. Put some context to it.
00:24:38it. We've got a live studio audience
00:24:41audience here in this iconic radio radio theatre at BBC headquarters,
00:24:44headquarters, a live studio audience, audience, around 400 people coming. coming. But as you say, a stellar
00:24:48stellar panel of guests, people who who are decision makers who've been
00:24:52been involved directly in supporting supporting Ukraine and those who
00:24:55who have sat at the heart of power power in Washington advising the
00:24:59the US President on his Russia policy. policy. And of course, sitting alongside
00:25:02alongside me. He needs no introduction. introduction. Our resident military
00:25:06military analyst, Mikey Kay. I'm I'm looking forward to this and it it does feel like a particularly
00:25:10particularly dangerous moment for for Ukraine. Yeah. I mean, you mentioned
00:25:12mentioned the headlines coming out out over the weekend. You know, some
00:25:15some people might describe those those as catastrophic. I certainly
00:25:17certainly would when it comes to to Ukraine. But we've also got the
00:25:21the Warsaw Security Forum that's that's been happening today. And
00:25:24And we've heard from that forum the
00:25:27the Supreme Allied commander Europe, Europe, who's been talking about
00:25:30about the theory of victory. We covered covered that with the deputy commander
00:25:33commander of Nato in an interview interview last week that that's now
00:25:36now on air. And, you know, there's there's never been a point in, I
00:25:39I think, a pivotal point in, in Ukraine
00:25:43Ukraine in terms of the posturing posturing from the White House in
00:25:46in terms of decisions that Europe Europe have to make, and we'll be
00:25:48be covering all of that. But we'll
00:25:50we'll also be going deep into the
00:25:54the technological advances that we've we've seen occurring in those four
00:25:56four years. That's Mikey and Christine Christine coming up in about half
00:26:00half an hour. I'm back at the top top of the hour with the latest headlines.
00:26:03headlines. Do stay with us. You're You're watching The World Today on
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