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00:00:13Hello, I'm Martine Croxall.
00:00:14This is the context on BBC News. News. Ukraine's President Zelensky
00:00:18Zelensky says Russia hit a power power plant in Ukraine immediately
00:00:21immediately after Donald Trump claimed claimed both sides had agreed to
00:00:24to an energy ceasefire. Saudi Arabia Arabia threatens what it calls a
00:00:28a serious response to deadly Houthi Houthi attacks on Riyadh's international
00:00:31international airport. Flights remain remain suspended. The BBC reports
00:00:35reports from inside Yemen, where where the long running civil war
00:00:38war is escalating. We've been told told that there are Houthi fighters
00:00:41fighters in position up in the mountains.
00:00:43mountains. About 500 of them. And And since we've been here, the forces
00:00:47forces are keeping an eye on the the sky just to make sure that there
00:00:50there are no more drones coming. coming. The UK Prime Minister, Andy Andy Burnham, says he'll push for
00:00:54for new post-Brexit trade deals and and that the status quo isn't good
00:00:57good enough for Britain. A major major cyber attack has caused hundreds
00:01:00hundreds of supermarket fridges and and freezers to malfunction in France,
00:01:03France, with millions of pounds worth
00:01:05worth of food lost after temperatures
00:01:08temperatures rose to 50 Celsius.
00:01:19Russia's foreign minister says Ukraine doesn't deserve any respite.
00:01:23respite. Just a day after President President Trump announced that Ukraine Ukraine and Russia had agreed to
00:01:27to stop attacking each other's energy energy infrastructure, Ukraine's Ukraine's President Zelensky, who
00:01:31who said that he would support a
00:01:33a ceasefire, accused Russia of attacking attacking six energy facilities less
00:01:37less than 24 hours after it was announced. announced. He's called on Donald
00:01:39Donald Trump to put increased pressure pressure on Vladimir Putin after
00:01:42after more than four years of war.
00:01:44war. Dan Johnson reports from Kyiv.
00:01:49Kyiv. This is the soundtrack to Ukraine's
00:01:51Ukraine's energy crisis and the power
00:01:54power cuts continue despite Donald
00:01:56Donald Trump's ceasefire announcement.
00:02:00announcement. We must adapt, Natalia Natalia says. Putin is a scoundrel.
00:02:03scoundrel. He doesn't want peace.
00:02:07peace. At least businesses have a a way of keeping the lights on. Many
00:02:10Many of the residents here aren't aren't so fortunate. They don't have have the option of generators. And
00:02:15And if you're living in a tower block
00:02:16block like that, when the lift stops
00:02:19stops working, that's 16 flights
00:02:21flights of stairs. And many are having
00:02:24having to store water ready for the
00:02:26the next outage when the pumps stop.
00:02:30stop. Olga has lived through 81 winters
00:02:33winters but wasn't relishing another.
00:02:37another. Trump should hurry up and and put Putin in his place instead
00:02:40instead of pretending to be friends friends with him. All those phone
00:02:43phone calls between them. He should should come here to Ukraine and see
00:02:47see our homes, see how badly they've
00:02:50they've been destroyed. This started started with Donald Trump's deal
00:02:53deal to lift restrictions on Russian Russian diesel, a betrayal in Ukrainian
00:02:57Ukrainian eyes. The ceasefire came came as a surprise to Ukraine's president,
00:03:00president, who said he'd sign up
00:03:02up but claims Russia's hit six more
00:03:05more energy facilities. It was clear
00:03:08clear that Putin does not read Truth
00:03:12Truth Social. Russia is trying to
00:03:15to use another winter, another period
00:03:17period of cold weather against our
00:03:19our country taking our power plants,
00:03:22plants, power grids and all parts
00:03:26parts of our energy infrastructure
00:03:28infrastructure every single day.
00:03:33day. Russia's first response was was this a strike on a Kharkiv suburb
00:03:37suburb people there think was destined
00:03:39destined for its power station. We'd
00:03:42We'd already seen the statement that that they wouldn't target energy
00:03:46energy facilities, and we really really believed it. Ten minutes had had passed and there had already
00:03:50already been five strikes. My child child and I saw a missile hit thermal
00:03:53thermal power plant number five and
00:03:55and watched it burn there. It's horrific.
00:03:58horrific. The Kremlin's only comment
00:04:00comment has been about Zelensky.
00:04:03Zelensky. I do not think he deserves deserves a respite. I don't think
00:04:07think we'll be buying into assurances
00:04:09assurances and promises again. So
00:04:12So many Kyiv streets remain in darkness
00:04:15darkness and Ukrainians are under
00:04:17under no illusions. Russia's war
00:04:19war continues. Dan Johnson, BBC News
00:04:21News in Kyiv. John Herbst is a former
00:04:25former US ambassador to Ukraine, Ukraine, now senior director at the
00:04:28the Atlantic Council's Eurasia Centre, Centre, and joins us now. Ambassador,
00:04:32Ambassador, welcome. What was Donald Donald Trump doing by saying that
00:04:35that this cease fire regarding the
00:04:38the energy infrastructure was imminent
00:04:40imminent was immediately effective, effective, and neither side knew
00:04:44knew about it. I'm going to offer
00:04:46offer you a heterodox view in answer
00:04:48answer to that question. We know know what happened at the end of
00:04:51of last week when Trump made this this diesel deal with the Russians.
00:04:55Russians. We know the sharp criticism criticism from Zelensky, which on
00:04:59on the merits was accurate, substantively substantively was accurate. But we
00:05:02we also know President Trump has has a thin skin. So he reacted very
00:05:05very sharply and attacked Zelensky Zelensky on Saturday and said Ukraine
00:05:08Ukraine needs a new president. That That was not a good look. Trump was
00:05:12was defending himself even though though defending a policy which was
00:05:15was probably a bad policy, including
00:05:17including for the United States.
00:05:20States. And then he announced on on Sunday that he had a peace excuse
00:05:23excuse me. A ceasefire deal worked worked out on energy strikes with
00:05:27with Russia and Ukraine that changed changed the subject from his anger
00:05:30anger at Zelensky in a more appropriate appropriate direction, even though
00:05:33though I don't think he ever had had that cease fire and Russian activity
00:05:37activity proved it. You know, hours hours after he made that announcement
00:05:40announcement when they struck Ukrainian Ukrainian energy targets. But no
00:05:42no longer sorry. In addition to his his thin skin, as you describe it,
00:05:46it, surely he needs a ceasefire himself himself so that Russia can produce
00:05:50produce the diesel that he needs
00:05:51needs to buy? Well, I look, Trump
00:05:54Trump has tried to achieve numerous numerous cease fires since he came
00:05:57came back to the White House, and and Zelensky has said yes to every
00:06:00every Trump proposal. And Putin has has rejected, albeit not never by
00:06:04by saying he rejects it by just rejecting rejecting it every proposal. So the
00:06:07the problem of ending the war is is Russian aggression. And you're
00:06:11you're right, Trump does need an an end to this. But in order to achieve achieve that, he has to put pressure
00:06:14pressure on Putin. And while he's he's done that a couple of times,
00:06:18times, he's been reluctant to push push even harder. To what extent
00:06:22extent is the answer to Ukraine lying
00:06:25lying in Iran? Well, it's clear that
00:06:28that the problem in the oil markets markets comes from the war in the
00:06:32the Gulf. And President Trump does does not want to talk about that.
00:06:35that. So he's looking for another another explanation for the high
00:06:38high price of diesel in the United United States. And but that answer,
00:06:41answer, the reason why you have high high diesel prices is the war in
00:06:44in Iran, not Russia's war on Ukraine Ukraine and Ukraine's legitimate
00:06:48legitimate defence against Russian
00:06:49Russian aggression. To what extent
00:06:52extent are US relations with European European allies being affected by
00:06:55by this? Well, what we've seen now
00:06:59now is not the first time that Trump
00:07:02Trump has unfairly slammed Zelensky.
00:07:05Zelensky. So this is not not new.
00:07:07new. And we know that following such
00:07:11such a fuss, Trump then moves back back and I'd say a better direction.
00:07:15direction. And he may have started started to do that yesterday, but
00:07:18but the Europeans have seen this this pattern and obviously they've
00:07:20they've had to step in as Trump in in some ways has reduced American
00:07:24American support for Ukraine. But But the Trump administration still
00:07:27still continues. This is extremely
00:07:30extremely important to give military military intelligence to Ukraine. Ukraine. And the Trump administration
00:07:34administration still sends weapons weapons to Europe to pass on to Ukraine, Ukraine, albeit the Europeans have
00:07:38have to pay for those weapons. John
00:07:41John Herbst former US ambassador ambassador to Ukraine, now with the the Atlantic Council. Thank you very
00:07:45very much. Thanks for talking to
00:07:47to us. Yemen's Houthi rebels have have renewed their attacks against
00:07:51against Saudi Arabia, firing more more drones and missiles into the
00:07:54the country. It comes after two deadly deadly strikes on Riyadh's main international
00:07:58international airport in as many many days. On Saturday, 13 people
00:08:01people were killed and hundreds wounded
00:08:03wounded in an attack on King Khalid Khalid International Airport. Another
00:08:07Another strike on the airport on
00:08:09on Sunday left one person dead and and 11 injured. The Iranian backed
00:08:13backed Houthis say they're targeting targeting Saudi Arabia because of
00:08:15of its support for government forces
00:08:17forces in Yemen's civil war. In recent
00:08:20recent weeks, the Houthi rebels have have advanced along the coast, capturing
00:08:23capturing towns and cities and threatening threatening the critical Bab al-Mandab
00:08:27al-Mandab Strait. The civil war in in Yemen first began in 2014, when
00:08:31when Iranian backed Houthi fighters fighters gained control of the capital
00:08:35capital Sanaa. Since 2015, a Saudi
00:08:37Saudi led coalition has been trying trying with heavy air strikes to
00:08:41to restore the internationally recognised
00:08:42recognised government to power. Our
00:08:45Our senior international correspondent correspondent Orla Guerin reports
00:08:47reports from Yemen's west coast.
00:08:52coast. Crossing the desert, a remote
00:08:54remote battlefield in a civil war
00:08:56war that is fast becoming a major
00:08:59major regional threat. We travelled
00:09:01travelled with Yemen's southern forces
00:09:04forces fighters loyal to the internationally
00:09:07internationally recognised government. government. In this landscape of
00:09:10of harsh beauty. They have regained
00:09:13regained lost ground and took us
00:09:14us to see it here. The wreckage of
00:09:18of a Houthi drone shot out of the
00:09:21the sky. How much damage could this
00:09:24this have done? Commander Tawfik
00:09:26Tawfik Al Haugen says it contained
00:09:29contained explosives. And could kill
00:09:33kill 10 to 15 people. This whole
00:09:37whole area has just been retaken retaken by pro-government forces.
00:09:41forces. They captured it about three
00:09:44three days ago. Until then, the Houthis Houthis were in control here. They've
00:09:48They've been pushed back. And we've we've been told that there are Houthi
00:09:52Houthi fighters in position up in in the mountains. About 500 of them.
00:09:55them. And since we've been here, here, the forces are keeping an eye
00:09:58eye on the sky just to make sure
00:10:00sure that there are no more drones
00:10:03drones coming. And hear scenes from
00:10:06from the battle to retake this territory.
00:10:11territory. No military precision
00:10:13precision in this desert campaign.
00:10:15campaign. Just a loose alliance of of pro-government fighters, some
00:10:19some of them barefoot. As we left
00:10:25left front lines about a mile from
00:10:28from the Houthis government reinforcements
00:10:30reinforcements were heading in. Along
00:10:34Along the way, a tableau of suffering
00:10:38suffering for some of those who have
00:10:40have fled the fighting. The only
00:10:42only shelter is the trees. Aisha
00:10:45Aisha tells me she has been here
00:10:47here for 30 days with no money, no
00:10:51no food and no water. Not even a
00:10:54a blanket. Yemen's civil war is casting
00:10:57casting a shadow well beyond its
00:11:00its borders. The Houthis are a threat threat to international shipping
00:11:04shipping and increasingly a threat
00:11:06threat to Saudi Arabia. But for their
00:11:09their backers in Iran, they provide
00:11:13provide leverage in operating rooms
00:11:14rooms in the city of Aden. Geopolitics
00:11:18Geopolitics feels remote night and
00:11:19and day. Doctors are treating wounded
00:11:23wounded fighters. That includes the
00:11:25the enemy. This man is a Houthi.
00:11:28Houthi. But most here are from the
00:11:31the government side. When you get get a real sense here of how fierce
00:11:35fierce the fighting is, this hospital
00:11:38hospital alone has received 51 wounded
00:11:41wounded fighters today. Every bed bed in the intensive care unit is
00:11:45is full. They've been arriving with
00:11:46with gunshot wounds with shrapnel.
00:11:49shrapnel. Some have had limbs amputated. amputated. And the casualties keep
00:11:52keep coming. We've been told there
00:11:54there are three more on the way.
00:11:58way. The battles in Yemen are ebbing
00:12:00ebbing and flowing with no clear
00:12:03clear victor, but plenty more trauma.
00:12:06trauma. For some, the war will always
00:12:08always be with them. Some still have
00:12:12have their fighting spirit. Like Like Ahmed Ali Mahmoud. He wants
00:12:16wants to get back to the front despite
00:12:19despite multiple fractures. I'm not
00:12:25not waiting to be fully recovered, recovered, he told us. I just want
00:12:28want to be able to stand. I think
00:12:31think it's a religious duty and a
00:12:32a national duty. The Houthis have
00:12:35have destroyed the country. In the
00:12:39the next ward, Ali, who is 121 year
00:12:42year older than Yemen's war. He was
00:12:45was injured by a drone and is now
00:12:48now facing a complicated surgery.
00:12:51surgery. There is shrapnel near his
00:12:53his spine, says Doctor Amr Al-sakkaf.
00:12:56Al-sakkaf. The operation won't be be easy, but God willing, our staff
00:12:59staff will be able to handle it.
00:13:03it. But will war follow Ali into
00:13:05into adulthood? Orla Guerin BBC News
00:13:09News Southern Yemen. Danny Aeberhard
00:13:14Aeberhard is executive director of of the Gulf International Forum and
00:13:17and she joins us now from Doha. Danya,
00:13:19Danya, thank you very much for joining
00:13:21joining us. How has this conflict
00:13:24conflict between Saudi Arabia and
00:13:26and Yemen and Iran, of course, changed
00:13:29changed to give us what we're seeing
00:13:32seeing now? Well, right now we are
00:13:34are in a state of escalation and
00:13:38and we're seeing the possibility
00:13:41possibility of conflagration of a
00:13:44a regional conflict ensuing. Should
00:13:47Should this escalate further? But
00:13:49But what we're also witnessing is
00:13:52is the re-emergence of a longstanding
00:13:56longstanding conflict between the
00:13:58the Houthis and the Saudis. And it
00:14:01it seems as in the second iteration
00:14:04iteration of this war, that the Houthis
00:14:07Houthis have gained a lot more intelligence.
00:14:11intelligence. And some sort of capabilities
00:14:13capabilities to be able to attack
00:14:16attack more accurately in Saudi Arabia.
00:14:19Arabia. And I think that's where
00:14:20where you're seeing more concern
00:14:23concern from the Saudi perspective.
00:14:26perspective. Also right now, you you see the Iranians are trying to
00:14:29to get involved and trying to mediate.
00:14:32mediate. And I think that's because, because, as you rightly outlined
00:14:36outlined in, in the prelude to this
00:14:40this discussion that the government
00:14:42government forces in some parts are
00:14:44are taking a bit more control at
00:14:46at the battlefield. And I think that
00:14:50that the Iranians want to make sure
00:14:52sure to crystallise the gains and
00:14:55and consolidate them for the Houthis Houthis because the Houthis are an
00:14:59an important leverage for Iran in
00:15:02in the. The grand scheme of this
00:15:05this larger war between Iran, the
00:15:08the US and Israel. I've heard a number
00:15:11number of analysts saying today that that there is no military solution
00:15:14solution to this. So how likely is
00:15:17is a diplomatic solution or at least
00:15:19least a diplomatic route to de-escalation?
00:15:24de-escalation? Well, obviously the the ideal approach to any conflict
00:15:27conflict is a diplomatic solution. solution. And, you know, that could
00:15:30could be the end game and should should be the end game. I do think
00:15:34think that the Houthis are making
00:15:36making it very difficult by escalating
00:15:38escalating in their attacks and causing
00:15:40causing this degree of casualties.
00:15:44casualties. You know, just to frame
00:15:47frame this, the death toll from the the Houthi attack on Saudi Arabia
00:15:51Arabia is the most in recent history
00:15:53history that Saudi Arabia experienced. experienced. So I think most likely
00:15:57likely the Saudis would like to establish
00:15:59establish a degree of deterrence
00:16:02deterrence before going to the negotiation
00:16:04negotiation table. But of course,
00:16:06course, the negotiation route is
00:16:08is the best way moving forward. I
00:16:11I think for all parties. And of course
00:16:14course region wide de-escalation. de-escalation. Danny Aeberhard from from the Gulf International Forum
00:16:18Forum in Doha, thank you very much much for talking to us. Thank you
00:16:22you for having me. Much more on that that story. Of course, the BBC News
00:16:26News website. And still to come, come, Prime Minister Andy Burnham Burnham has set out plans for more
00:16:30more post-Brexit deals with the EU EU and given more detail on Iran's
00:16:34Iran's potential involvement in the
00:16:36the incident at RAF Fairford. Well,
00:16:39Well, it's been an eventful day in in UK politics and we'll go through
00:16:41through all of that on the political political context next with Nick
00:16:45Nick Ward. Around political context Nick Ward. Around the world and across
00:16:48across the
00:17:50Security Brief live with an audience
00:17:50audience here on BBC News. MUSIC
00:18:04Now it's time for the political
00:18:06context with BBC Newsnight's political political editor Nick Watt, who's
00:18:10who's here in the studio. You know know you've arrived when they give give you your own titles, don't you?
00:18:14you? And we're going to begin with with the Prime Minister setting out
00:18:17out more detail about how he wants
00:18:19wants to have closer ties post-Brexit post-Brexit with the European Union.
00:18:22Union. That's right. Look, we know know Andy Burnham is always strongly
00:18:24strongly in favour of Britain's membership membership of the European Union.
00:18:27Union. I remember interviewing him him two weeks before the referendum
00:18:30referendum way back in 2016, and and he said he feared it was going
00:18:34going to be a leave vote and he thought thought that was wrong. Although Although he was highly respected,
00:18:37respected, of people, respectful respectful of people who were planning planning then to vote leave because
00:18:41because he was MP then for Lee, which which turned out to be quite a heavy heavy leave area when he stood again
00:18:45again in the by election in Makerfield, Makerfield, which has similar boundaries
00:18:48boundaries to his old seat, very very high leave vote. Andy Burnham
00:18:51Burnham was very, very cautious on on the EU but now he's Prime Minister.
00:18:55Minister. He believes it's in the the UK's vital economic interests
00:18:59interests to move much closer to
00:19:01to the EU. So he named the date of of a big summit that he's going to
00:19:04to be having with the EU in Brussels Brussels on the 20th of November.
00:19:07November. And he set out his stall. stall. But you know what? This issue
00:19:11issue still divides this country. country. So why don't we listen to to the Prime Minister and then listen
00:19:15listen to Kemi Badenoch? Let's do
00:19:16do it. This summit presents an opportunity
00:19:21opportunity to make progress on two
00:19:23two crucial issues boosting UK growth
00:19:28growth and controlling illegal immigration.
00:19:31immigration. On the table is a trade
00:19:34trade deal on food and drink products,
00:19:37products, a deal on emissions trading.
00:19:40trading. Progress towards linking linking our energy systems. A new
00:19:44new youth experience scheme and deeper
00:19:47deeper co-operation on immigration. immigration. He is not going to get
00:19:50get a better deal. The EU are tough
00:19:54tough negotiators. And Mr Speaker, Speaker, it is not just that the
00:19:57the EU are tough negotiators. He
00:19:59He has already revealed his entire
00:20:01entire negotiating hand. He has just just blurted out everything he wants
00:20:05wants in this statement and I will will tell you. Tell him now, Mr Speaker,
00:20:08Speaker, as a former Trade Secretary, Secretary, this is not how you conduct
00:20:12conduct negotiations. Andy Burnham Burnham also kicked off a bit of
00:20:16of a debate about Russian interference
00:20:19interference in the Brexit referendum. referendum. Did it happen? To what what extent? What would it have changed?
00:20:23changed? Yes. So one of the sort sort of the big bugbears for some
00:20:27some supporters of remain is that that they believe that there was
00:20:30was Russian interference in that
00:20:32that Brexit representative referendum
00:20:34referendum in 2016. This has been been looked into. The thinking was
00:20:38was that there was involvement, but but it wasn't necessarily highly
00:20:40highly successful. So Andy Burnham Burnham did an interview with the
00:20:43the rest of politics last week, and
00:20:46and he absolutely went into this this head on. Let's listen to what what he had to say. I don't think
00:20:50think we knew back then the extent
00:20:52extent to which there was state sponsored
00:20:56sponsored interference in the British British democratic process. But I
00:20:59I asked the question coming into
00:21:00into Downing Street, was there interference
00:21:04interference in the 2016 referendum referendum from Russia? And I've I've had the clear answer that yes,
00:21:07yes, there was. So Andy Burnham, Burnham, after that interview with
00:21:10with Alastair Campbell and Rory Stewart, Stewart, knew that he'd be facing
00:21:13facing MPs today. And he slightly slightly changed tack. Well, listen
00:21:17listen to hear what he had to say say in a second. But the key thing
00:21:20thing is, is the position seems to to be. And this was explained by
00:21:23by Stephen Doughty, the Foreign Office Office minister, that there was Russian
00:21:27Russian interference in that referendum, referendum, but that it was not successful.
00:21:31successful. Let's listen to the very very careful clarification by the
00:21:34the Prime Minister this afternoon.
00:21:36afternoon. It is a matter of record, record, Mr Speaker, that Russian
00:21:40Russian actors sought to interfere
00:21:44interfere in the 2019 general election,
00:21:45election, and we think it is inconceivable
00:21:49inconceivable that this was the first
00:21:50first time. Also then turn to the
00:21:54the incident at RAF Fairford last last month. What is the government
00:21:57government saying further about potential potential involvement by Iran in
00:22:00in this? Well, the government did
00:22:02did go further today. So at the Labour Labour Party conference, Andy Burnham
00:22:06Burnham told our colleague Chris Chris Mason that he was absolutely
00:22:09absolutely sure that there was Iranian Iranian state involvement. But what
00:22:12what we had today from the Prime Prime Minister in that statement
00:22:16statement was the UK belief that that the IRGC, the Iranian Revolutionary
00:22:20Revolutionary Guard Corps, were involved. involved. And then Shabana Mahmood,
00:22:22Mahmood, we're going to talk about about her statement for a bit. Shabana
00:22:26Shabana Mahmood then gave some pretty pretty serious details. So she said
00:22:29said the Home Secretary that it's
00:22:30it's highly likely to have been co-ordinated
00:22:33co-ordinated by a known individual individual based in Iran and almost
00:22:36almost certainly directed by Iran's Iran's IRGC. And then she talked
00:22:40talked about how today the Foreign Foreign Secretary, Ed Miliband, summoned
00:22:43summoned the Iranian ambassador, ambassador, condemning Iranian involvement
00:22:47involvement in UK safety. And then then the Home Secretary said we're
00:22:49we're also sanctioning two individuals
00:22:52individuals involved in conducting conducting espionage and attacks
00:22:55attacks on behalf of the government government of Iran in Europe and
00:22:58and the US, and also the Home Secretary
00:23:00Secretary saying Iran is using proxies
00:23:02proxies on our soil. You mentioned mentioned the Home Secretary, Nick.
00:23:05Nick. She said that made an announcement
00:23:08announcement today looking at assessing
00:23:11assessing security measures for politicians.
00:23:13politicians. Yes. And the Home Secretary
00:23:16Secretary opened her statement by by talking about the horrific and
00:23:20and desperate tragedy of the killing
00:23:22killing of Ann Widdecombe three months
00:23:24months ago and what the Home Secretary Secretary said is that on the 2nd
00:23:282nd of October, the suspect was charged charged with terrorism, terrorism
00:23:31terrorism offences including preparing preparing an act of terror against
00:23:34against Nigel Farage. And so the the Home Secretary then said that
00:23:37that she believes that there's insufficient insufficient protection for those
00:23:40those who serve. So she says with
00:23:43with immediate effect, there will will be greater police support for
00:23:46for political figures who are not not currently Members of Parliament,
00:23:49Parliament, peers and things like like that, and ex-members of Parliament.
00:23:53Parliament. But then the Home Secretary Secretary said that Sir Stephen Ludgrove,
00:23:56Ludgrove, who's the former national national security adviser, is going
00:23:58going to conduct a review to review
00:24:01review the protective security provided provided by the state to those in
00:24:05in public life. So that is a much
00:24:08much broader definition because currently currently the security, when it's
00:24:11it's armed security is done by this this body called ravec. And the criticism
00:24:14criticism is that that is too limited. limited. This looks like this is
00:24:18is potentially going to widen the the number of people who might be
00:24:21be included. Are we going to hear
00:24:25hear from her? It is clear there there is insufficient protection
00:24:29protection for those who serve. I I can therefore announce today that
00:24:32that I will expand with immediate immediate effect police support to
00:24:36to political figures who are not not currently Members of Parliament.
00:24:40Parliament. This will include former
00:24:42former Members of Parliament, peers peers and party spokespeople giving
00:24:45giving them access to a named police
00:24:48police officer as well as help with with wider security measures. It's
00:24:52It's a very worrying time, isn't isn't it? If you're a politician
00:24:54politician and you hear that this this is necessary, in one sense you'll
00:24:57you'll be relieved that there's going going to be an assessment, but it's
00:25:00it's a sign of the times that we're
00:25:03we're in that it's necessary. Yeah.
00:25:05Yeah. And the whole tone of the Home
00:25:08Home Secretary was clearly expressing expressing very, very deep concerns
00:25:11concerns about the threat to people people in public life because the
00:25:14the current system, as I was saying,
00:25:18saying, that's basically the diplomatic diplomatic and Royal Protection Corps. Corps. There are certain people,
00:25:21people, by dint of their position position the Prime Minister, the the Home Secretary, the Foreign Secretary
00:25:24Secretary who get those armed close close protection officers. Then there
00:25:28there are some people who get it it on the basis of a threat assessment.
00:25:31assessment. But the criticism is is that it hasn't gone wide enough. enough. And Nigel Farage was saying
00:25:35saying that the security provided provided for him by the state and
00:25:37and there was some security didn't didn't go far enough, which is why
00:25:41why he says he has to pay for his
00:25:43his own security. Obviously if you you have security outside the parameters
00:25:47parameters of the state, then they're they're not armed. So clearly the
00:25:49the Home Secretary is really worried. worried. Hence this review. Nick,
00:25:52Nick, thank you very much. Nick Watt
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