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00:00:01Many claims that certainly, certainly
00:00:05the Islamic Republic has supported them and in
00:00:08fact, has not left their pockets empty. These actions are done with money.
00:00:12Where does this money come from? Yemen, where the Houthis
00:00:15are not very rich.
00:00:18So these monies have come out of the pockets of the Iranian people.
00:00:22The fact that we are in what time and what
00:00:25situation it is,
00:00:28this does not allow us to violate the rights of the Iranian people
00:00:32who today are living in poverty and
00:00:35misery. In fact, the word "misery" should be used.
00:00:39They are living. The result of this policy is the impoverishment
00:00:42of the Iranian people and the enrichment
00:00:45and preparation for a war in which the Iranian people
00:00:49actually have no share.
00:00:52This is the result of these policies. Now, no matter how we want to
00:00:56justify it, this
00:00:58reality of the field cannot be overlooked.
00:01:02Thank you very much, Mr. Salehi, we are eagerly
00:01:06awaiting your answer. Yes,
00:01:08you see, insiders and outsiders in the region
00:01:12determine geopolitical changes. I was explaining that
00:01:16the good relationship between Iran and Egypt in the 70s caused Al-Azhar,
00:01:19the Mufti of Al-Azhar, to fundamentally recognize Shiism and
00:01:23Twelver Shiism as one of the five official schools
00:01:26of Islam for the first time. This was a political issue.
00:01:41Extensive investments have been made in the Houthis, and as
00:01:44his words suggested, apparently this
00:01:48investment has not brought any return for the Iranian nation, in his opinion, and currently
00:01:51the nation is struggling with special economic problems.
00:01:55What do you say? Iran is strategically
00:01:58isolated in the region. That is why, by relying
00:02:01on allied groups
00:02:05that exist structurally in the region
00:02:08and have united, and due to common
00:02:11interests that it has with these groups, it has been able to have
00:02:15a regional deterrent power or geopolitical
00:02:18use of the structural identity of the region.
00:02:22Certainly, the role of Iran's
00:02:25allied groups in the region, whether in Lebanon, Iraq, or Yemen,
00:02:29has been influential in the 40-day war
00:02:32and in preventing the so-called
00:02:35fragmentation of Iran and preventing
00:02:38the demands of Mr. Trump, who
00:02:40called for
00:02:43the annihilation of Iranian civilization and the change of Iran's
00:02:46geography. Let's discuss this with Mr. Karbasi.
00:02:50Mr. Karbasi, do you believe that this investment has had no return? Mr.
00:02:54Salehi clearly believes that this investment has yielded results and
00:02:57has even prevented the disintegration of Iran.
00:03:07Why do you think this investment for the Houthis has not had a return for the nation?
00:03:09This
00:03:11is very clear, meaning it doesn't need proof
00:03:15that the situation of the Iranian people is
00:03:18in what state they are.
00:03:22And those sections of groups or in
00:03:25Lebanon, in Hamas, which even ideologically differed,
00:03:28what support did Iran give?
00:03:31The Houthis, Hashd al-Shaabi, all these
00:03:35are in fact today, when Iran is in this
00:03:38situation, which is also the result of the policies
00:03:41of the Islamic Republic, this is a product
00:03:45of their actions, not the people's. The people are actually
00:03:49victims of these policies. If
00:03:52money has gone out of their pockets it has gone
00:03:55to a place that actually has no benefit, neither today
00:03:59nor tomorrow, for the people of Iran, nor for the government.
00:04:02Excuse me, if a situation were to arise where fewer bombs were dropped
00:04:05on Iran, do you think it wouldn't be good for the people? After all, the Houthis and groups
00:04:09are providing some help to the Islamic Republic in this regard.
00:04:13I am certainly but these bombs are not being dropped on the heads
00:04:17of these people. They are being dropped somewhere else.
00:04:20That is, today
00:04:23they attacked another part of Yemen, they attack the territory of Saudi Arabia,
00:04:27they attack Kuwait, they attack other countries. They attack, which
00:04:31paves the way for further attacks. It is not supposed that if
00:04:34an agreement is made today,
00:04:37it will last because there is no stability
00:04:41in the region. The policy that the Islamic Republic
00:04:45is pursuing is a policy of unrest
00:04:48and tension in the region. In fact, one day,
00:04:51which will not be far off, it will seize
00:04:54the collars of the Iranian people because this
00:04:57is the result of a policy of.
00:05:02That means seeking war actually cannot
00:05:05guarantee security for the people of Iran. My point
00:05:09is that this investment by the Islamic Republic will not
00:05:13yield any results for the Iranian people
00:05:16at any time. Yes, Mr. Khansari, when we talk about
00:05:20the Houthis, the Islamic Republic of Iran, and the Middle East region, as the English say,
00:05:23there is an elephant in the room that is rarely talked about,
00:05:27but it is very important: Saudi Arabia. Considering the events that have happened
00:05:31and the situation that has arisen, let's take all factors into account.
00:05:34That is, attacks have happened, the Islamic Republic has not fallen,
00:05:38Saudi Arabia has faced problems due to the Strait of Hormuz,
00:05:41and the Arab countries of the Persian Gulf.
00:05:45Considering all of this, what do you think their reaction will be to their war
00:05:49with the Houthis? And if the issue becomes serious and, for example,
00:05:52the Houthis close the Bab el-Mandeb Strait, will Saudi Arabia enter
00:05:56that region or not? I
00:06:00don't think
00:06:02that things will go that far, because I think
00:06:06there is a high probability that an agreement will be reached
00:06:10in the coming days and weeks. One cannot
00:06:13set a date. It is much more likely that
00:06:17this agreement will be reached. And of course, the agreement must be implemented,
00:06:21but I think that this willingness exists.
00:06:24But you see, the point that Mr. Karbasi makes is that if we have been fighting the Islamic Republic for 47
00:06:28years to criticize all these
00:06:32flaws, those flaws are not being presented in that form now.
00:06:35Well, it's obvious that the Iranian people have been harmed
00:06:38due to wrong policies. But if we assume
00:06:42that the Islamic Republic's government was a conventional government,
00:06:46this investment that, let's say, it made in the Houthis,
00:06:50it could have gone like Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and
00:06:53the UAE and bought F-15s, F-35s, and so on.
00:06:56Which is also what, let's say, happened during the Shah's time, when
00:07:00the Shah's opponents said that he had impoverished the nation
00:07:04because he had bought these weapons and these toys.
00:07:08Every country needs
00:07:11a defense. A defense that they
00:07:15could have had, which my dear
00:07:18friend uses the term geopolitics.
00:07:21In the current geopolitical situation,
00:07:24they could have used these proxies to protect themselves in a way,
00:07:28and instead of investing in F-35 aircraft,
00:07:32they invested in them. Now, in
00:07:35the current situation, these proxies,
00:07:39it is true that Hamas is almost completely eliminated,
00:07:42and Hezbollah is almost out of action,
00:07:46although it is still somewhat useful
00:07:49for the Islamic Republic, but in any case, it is
00:07:53a lever to prevent additional attacks
00:07:57on Iran. Why doesn't America attack Iran?
00:08:00It's not simply because Mr. Trump doesn't intend
00:08:04to kill Iranians. It's not because we saw that he came
00:08:08and killed 56,000 people and caused
00:08:10$350 billion
00:08:13in damage to our country. How does
00:08:17that fit in? Let's see what Mr.
00:08:20Karbasi's answer is to these challenges that you
00:08:24raised about his opinions and analysis. Mr.
00:08:27Karbasi, meaning, in fact, with this
00:08:31argument, we have
00:08:33an eternal war. Meaning the Islamic
00:08:37Republic should not buy weapons and should help
00:08:41its proxies to create a proper
00:08:44deterrence. Meaning this war will continue forever.
00:08:47Please, Mr. Excuse me, we can't hear
00:08:51you, Mr. Khansari, please speak a little louder. I said
00:08:54that this statement of his, in my opinion, is a
00:08:57little inaccurate. They don't sell
00:09:00weapons to Iran. Iran cannot go and buy weapons
00:09:04like Saudi Arabia, even from Russia.
00:09:07The same S-300.
00:09:10As Mr. Karbasi says,
00:09:14you have actually reversed the cause and effect, I think.
00:09:18This situation, in his view, is a result
00:09:21of the foreign policy of the Islamic Republic and the isolation of the Islamic Republic.
00:09:25We live with realities. The Islamic Republic, because
00:09:29of the very reasons you mentioned,
00:09:32has been forced to choose this path to defend itself and
00:09:36to defend the existing situation because that path is completely closed
00:09:39to it. That path is open to
00:09:43all Arab countries of the Persian Gulf,
00:09:46but it has been closed to the Islamic Republic. So what should it do?
00:09:49If you look from their perspective, I don't
00:09:53want to justify that policy, but
00:09:56these grand slogans that, yes, this has been detrimental to the Iranian nation,
00:10:00this has come out of the pockets of the Iranian nation, these generalizations
00:10:04have no place in this discussion now, at this time
00:10:07when our country is in a situation where further attacks
00:10:10and greater harm to our country must be prevented.
00:10:14In my opinion, this is not the time. Not that
00:10:18his argument is wrong, his argument is correct,
00:10:21but this argument, if Mr. Karbasi, I don't know how many years he has been in this field.
00:10:45The Iranian nation. One of the problems that Iran
00:10:49currently has in the international community is the behaviors of the Islamic
00:10:51Republic which sometimes do not align with some of the norms
00:10:55and values institutionalized in this society.
00:10:59And this criticism causes the Islamic Republic to weaken,
00:11:02and consequently, Iran's security is also endangered.
00:11:06Let's not forget that, after all, the Houthi government is not recognized
00:11:10by the United Nations, and Iran is the only country that recognizes
00:11:13the Houthis as the legitimate government of Yemen.
00:11:16Now, considering all these statements, evaluate
00:11:19the pros and cons of the matter for us. Let's see what you think.
00:11:23One. Before the start of this war, the Strait of Hormuz was open,
00:11:27Bab el-Mandeb was open, Iran's relations with all Arab
00:11:30countries were excellent, Houthi relations with Arab
00:11:34countries had improved, they had a peace treaty,
00:11:36and more importantly, one day before this
00:11:40war, a fair
00:11:43and equitable agreement was on the table
00:11:46between Iran and the US to assure the US that
00:11:49Iran is not pursuing nuclear weapons. However,
00:11:53it was the US and Israel who decided to attack Iran
00:11:56and become the cause of instability throughout the region.
00:12:00The norm of the region is not for Israel to slaughter
00:12:0472,000 Palestinians, to kill
00:12:07over 30,000 women and children. Those who attacked Iran
00:12:11are war criminals themselves and have committed war crimes during these
00:12:1540 days. From Minab school,
00:12:18from Lamert school, from the grilled chicken
00:12:21restaurant where all the staff
00:12:25were women, you see, the norm of the region is not that you
00:12:28have an agreement and a treaty and then withdraw from it,
00:12:32impose a merciless
00:12:35sanction against the people of Iran, and I repeat, against
00:12:39the people of Iran, with the hope that Iran
00:12:43will be brought to its knees, and when it doesn't, with an
00:12:47inhumane and uncivilized behavior,
00:12:50you demand the annihilation of Iranian civilization, the Stone Age-ification
00:12:54of Iran, the change of Iran's
00:12:57geography, and call those who
00:13:00help, like the Shiites throughout the region, terrorists,
00:13:04which is your right. But in the end, the price that Iran
00:13:08has paid for its allies
00:13:10is much less than what it has gained. If the Bab el-Mandeb issue
00:13:14didn't exist, if there were no other
00:13:17threats in the region, if to enter
00:13:21an asymmetric war, there was an $8 billion
00:13:24defense military budget for Iran
00:13:27against a $120 billion defense military budget
00:13:31for Israel and the US, Iran would certainly
00:13:34have been forced to use its geopolitical
00:13:37powers, to use geography, and
00:13:41to use the element of time. Security
00:13:45cannot be bought with F-35 F-15
00:13:49aircraft. Indigenous and sustainable security must
00:13:52exist, which Iran has achieved. A stable
00:13:56security. I don't think you are saying
00:13:59stable security, while we know that in Iran there is a
00:14:03very powerful current among citizens who are against
00:14:06this political system and fundamentally seek its overthrow,
00:14:10even pursuing a revolution
00:14:13to overthrow this system. That's why your statement that
00:14:16stable security is achieved through indigenous
00:14:19connections or popular support
00:14:23has no evidence.
00:14:27Look, I'm talking about external threat security. And when
00:14:31I say security must be indigenous, I mean the military,
00:14:34defensive, and security structure must be domestic, and
00:14:38no weapons purchase. The Shah definitely bought
00:14:41weapons, and in the Iran-Iraq war, it caused exactly...
00:14:45No, no, not at all. The Shah only bought very advanced
00:14:48and expensive weapons, which led to increasing his dependence on America.
00:14:52All Iranian military personnel
00:14:55were trained in America, and 2,000 American
00:14:59technicians were in Iran, which fundamentally led to the army being
00:15:02under the control of American security forces. And that's
00:15:06why, at a crucial historical moment, the army declared neutrality,
00:15:09but within a year, Mr. Salehi, in a very
00:15:13short time, the same army resists in a completely unexpected way.
00:15:17A large part of that army's training, equipment,
00:15:20and structure is from the Imperial Army,
00:15:23and we saw this.
00:15:37We should also discuss, Mr. Karbasi, Mr. Salehi says you should look at these crimes that are
00:15:41happening. In fact, in his opinion, very great
00:15:44oppressions that truly, not only
00:15:47him, but many experts believe are war crimes.
00:15:50Even if experts don't say it's a war crime, we saw with our own eyes
00:15:54they hit Minam, and in
00:15:57these circumstances, you can use such tools
00:16:00like your connection with paramilitary groups or the investments
00:16:04you made of this kind to push the enemy back. Don't
00:16:08forget that the Houthis, after all, are in a very special position where they
00:16:12can truly affect the global economy as much as the Strait of Hormuz.
00:16:15With this in mind, do you still think that
00:16:19this method is not correct?
00:16:22Look, the issue is not today. That is, if
00:16:25we go back in time,
00:16:29when the Islamic Republic was not at war,
00:16:32meaning the day after the victory of the revolution,
00:16:35Iran is right. The Islamic Republic
00:16:38from that time started exporting the revolution
00:16:41and creating a philosophy for its existence
00:16:45and gathering people around it. This is history,
00:16:49and it cannot be denied. In fact, what we see today
00:16:52the Islamic Republic is doing has a price.
00:16:56If it has entered a war, neither the Iranian people
00:16:59wanted it, nor the regional countries,
00:17:03but this was a policy
00:17:07that ultimately led to this point.
00:17:10If the Houthis or Hezbollah in Lebanon, or Hashd al-Shaabi, or any other
00:17:13group is defending this today, or is helping
00:17:17the policies of the Islamic Republic, in fact, part of it is
00:17:20for their own survival, so that they can remain, because
00:17:24the money of the Islamic Republic is sustaining them.
00:17:28If the Houthis are helping the policy
00:17:31of the Islamic Republic today, it is actually working as a weapon
00:17:35to preserve the survival of the Islamic Republic.
00:17:39This price, in fact,
00:17:42is a price for the destruction of Iran,
00:17:45Iran's infrastructure. Right now, Iran no longer has Zobahan, it doesn't have
00:17:49petrochemicals, which need to be built with billions of dollars.
00:17:53The price of the Islamic Republic's policies
00:17:57is the destruction of the people,
00:18:00Iran's economy, and in fact, the discredit of Iran in the region.
00:18:04The last resort, the Strait of Hormuz, is now
00:18:08half out of Iran's hands. That is, the exit part, the Oman part.
00:18:12This is the result of this policy. Of course, we are not sure yet. No agreement
00:18:15has been reached regarding the Strait of Hormuz and how it will be.
00:18:19We don't know the details of that agreement, and among us, I think Mr.
00:18:22Khansari has actually a truly extraordinary experience
00:18:26in diplomacy and, of course, the countries of the region and the Arab
00:18:29countries. I will ask you the last question, Mr. Khansari, what is your
00:18:32assessment of the influence of the Houthis on the negotiations?
00:18:36Can they actually have an effect and
00:18:40become a serious card for the Islamic Republic
00:18:43in this issue of agreement or peace that everyone is seeking?
00:18:47Look, directly,
00:18:50certainly not, but collectively,
00:18:54it must be considered that in these past few months, nearly 11 million
00:18:58barrels of oil have been removed from
00:19:01the market due to the closure of the Strait of
00:19:04Hormuz. Saudi Arabia, which delivered
00:19:07its oil, some four to five million,
00:19:10through a pipeline that reached the Red Sea,
00:19:14was able, to some extent, to deliver its oil
00:19:18to the oil market. The actions that the
00:19:21Houthis are taking
00:19:24are putting more pressure on America to resolve
00:19:28this issue and bring it to an end,
00:19:32so that the world economy does not
00:19:35experience the worst conditions.
00:19:41So, indirectly, yes. But the fundamental issue is that
00:19:43the issue of us, the Iranian people,
00:19:47with the Islamic Republic is a separate
00:19:50issue from the issue
00:19:53of Iran with the countries that attack
00:19:57Iran. We Iranians must
00:20:00clarify our stance with the Islamic Republic,
00:20:03not by America or Israel wanting to bombard
00:20:07it, so that
00:20:10through that, let's say, changes occur, which haven't.
00:20:13It has been shown that this approach has failed. So these two
00:20:17should not be mixed. They should be considered separate. The Islamic Republic
00:20:21is currently in a position
00:20:24where if those pragmatic forces, instead of dogmatic
00:20:27forces, can control
00:20:31this arena and reach an agreement,
00:20:34it can lead to a very different
00:20:38fate for Iran and the Iranian people. Thank you very much. I
00:20:42will ask the same question to Mr. Karbasi and Mr. Salehi. We have little time. About
00:20:46one minute. Mr. Salehi, first, you please speak. Do you really think that the Houthis can have an impact?
00:21:20and drones with a range of 200 kilometers that
00:21:23can cover the expanse from Khorramshahr to Chabahar.
00:21:26Thank you very much. Mr. Salehi, thank you.
00:21:30Excuse me for interrupting you, but I had to give Mr. Karbasi a chance to
00:21:34answer this question as well.
00:21:36Yes,
00:21:38in my opinion, the Houthis can indeed have an impact.
00:21:42Hashd al-Shaabi and other groups can also have an impact because
00:21:45it is a pressure card, and
00:21:48in fact, especially the Houthis at this point in time,
00:21:51by the pressure they can exert on Saudi Arabia and
00:21:54the global economy, they can have a significant impact.
00:21:58Thank you very much. Thank you to all three guests
00:22:02of the program, Mehrdad Khansari, Alam Salehi, and
00:22:05Fardin Karbasi, who were with us
00:22:08in this program. I hope that at least some
00:22:11of your questions have been answered. Until
00:22:14the next program,
00:22:16goodbye.
00:22:50There, I'm small, may God forgive me. Here too,
00:22:53it's like this.
00:23:00Akbar Aghdi in "The Tenants" this week on
00:24:50My dear, you're on YouTube too.
00:24:52Oh no, it's summer again.
00:24:54The kids' screen time is driving us crazy. All of you sitting here, that cooler is on
00:24:58over there. If you have children or children
00:25:01are around you, you are well familiar
00:25:03with the main problem of modern
00:25:06parents: screen time and the many apps that children
00:25:10always want to use on their phones and tablets, from Instagram to YouTube.
00:25:13It seems that the opinion of those who say these apps should be taken away from children
00:25:17is gaining more strength in various parts of the world. But is
00:25:21that really the solution? In recent months, various countries
00:25:24have been enacting laws that prohibit or severely
00:25:28restrict children's access to social networks.
00:25:31One of the latest is the UK government,
00:25:35which has said that from next year, social networking apps must block
00:25:39access for children under 16,
00:25:42otherwise they will face heavy fines. This reaction
00:25:45from a student gained a lot of attention on social media.
00:25:50over the weekend, nine hours, nine hours, so suddenly you're going
00:25:53to have a lot more time to fill, and what will you
00:25:56do? Start a
00:25:58wall.
00:26:01Now that social media
00:26:07supporters of these greater restrictions remind us that over the past decade,
00:26:11concurrently with the growth and prosperity of social
00:26:14media, the rates of anxiety and depression and mental
00:26:17health problems among teenagers have risen. The statistics we have
00:26:21show that using social media for
00:26:24a developing and growing brain is like
00:26:27a low dose of poison that is used every day. We know this. This
00:26:31is happening.
00:27:02If we easily blame everything on phones, tablets, and
00:27:06social media, we are ignoring more important factors,
00:27:09from parents' economic problems and family tensions
00:27:13to the crisis of loneliness and lack of mental
00:27:17health services, which are, of course, deeper problems and cannot
00:27:20be solved overnight with a decree or order. It is not surprising
00:27:23that politicians prefer to ban social media
00:27:27as a first step, because setting up playgrounds, community centers, and stadiums
00:27:31specifically for children is very expensive and takes
00:27:35longer to yield results, let alone reducing financial pressure
00:27:38on families in general, which is the root of many
00:27:41of the problems of recent years for teenagers. This takes a lot of
00:27:45work. Critics say blanket bans actually
00:27:49put children at greater risk. My concern
00:27:52is that children will move to other platforms to communicate
00:27:56with each other that have fewer regulations or are
00:27:59on the dark web. The ban on social
00:28:03media in Australia is still very new, but
00:28:07initial surveys show that about two-thirds of children
00:28:10do not comply with these bans. They have found ways to still
00:28:14access social media, for example, by using
00:28:17VPNs.
00:28:19Evidence also shows that age verification tools
00:28:23are not yet perfect enough to prevent determined
00:28:26children. Many people see that children can pressure their parents
00:28:30and annoy them so much that in the end, the parents themselves create
00:28:34adult accounts for them, and this way, other children also
00:28:37do not face the same restrictions as teenage accounts.
00:28:41This is why the main question might not be whether banning
00:28:44social media for children works or not. The more important question is
00:28:48how can we create a healthier relationship between these future
00:28:52generations and technology? The most important principle
00:28:55for us to protect our children is to have a relationship
00:28:59with them. To have a deep relationship. To have trust in it,
00:29:03and then also. to find a replacement
00:29:06which might be a bit harder in Iran
00:29:09but a replacement for virtual relationships
00:29:13can be non-virtual relationships. Right, we can replace
00:29:16many other things but
00:29:20respectful communication and
00:29:23trust are the main keys.
00:29:26But what do you think? You can write your opinion
00:29:30for me here on Instagram. In your opinion, do these restrictions work? If you
00:29:34have a teenager around you, what have you done to help
00:29:37them better use online spaces? What other
00:29:41solutions come to your mind to improve the situation?