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00:00:04restoration of two significant objects for the complex: the Prushinsky Chapel and the ancient Mill. Only ruins of these structures
00:00:08have survived to this day. The plans are to restore the former appearance
00:00:11of the historical buildings. The construction team aims to maximally preserve
00:00:15and strengthen the authentic brick masonry, as well as to expose and
00:00:19strengthen
00:00:19the foundation.
00:00:30work on the construction of the pile field is being carried out,
00:00:33reinforcing the foundation slab of the building for subsequent pouring
00:00:37of approximately 100 m3 of concrete. Work has been completed on the chapel
00:00:41to reinforce the foundations, install a concrete
00:00:44floor slab, and recreate
00:00:47the brickwork of the walls. All work is being carried out in accordance with
00:00:50approved schedules without disruptions. After
00:00:54the completion of the work, the renovated buildings will continue their activities. The
00:00:57ancient chapel will house thematic exhibitions, and
00:01:01the four-story mill will practically regain its functional
00:01:04purpose.
00:01:06A solo exhibition by Dmitry Surinovich opened at the National Art Museum.
00:01:10The artist has seen a special world of colors since he was 15
00:01:14years old, when he started drawing with his father's commander's pencils. His
00:01:18watercolor works are a peculiar high
00:01:20poetry. An important theme of Suranovich's work is representatives
00:01:24of the fair sex. In the year of Belarusian women, this is especially relevant.
00:01:28Most of the works in the exhibition are presented to the Minsk viewer for the first time. The
00:01:31exhibition hall features more than 80 watercolor works, including etudes,
00:01:35realistic landscapes, sketches, and drawings from hiking
00:01:38trips. In my opinion, creativity
00:01:41changed with age, because
00:01:45yes, his watercolors became more mature, more
00:01:48saturated in color scheme, as if
00:01:52various themes were added, various series, the artist
00:01:56traveled more, the artist is versatile, he can do abstract things.
00:05:41The center has two main tasks, one of which is directly
00:05:44related to the implementation
00:05:46of personal data protection legislation, protecting our
00:05:50personal data, and the other is related to organizing
00:05:54training on these issues. The direction of
00:05:57ensuring information security is highlighted as
00:06:00such a narrative, an imperative
00:06:03when organizing public security in our country.
00:06:07Personal information is very valuable not only for itself,
00:06:10money is earned on...
00:06:42the loss of reputation is very important. We have a program, "Speak up, don't be silent," you can't be silent, you can't
00:06:46be silent, you need to contact
00:06:49and work with this, no one has the right
00:06:53to dispose of information about another person.
00:07:14Hello, you're watching "Speak Up, Don't Be Silent," and today in the studio are Tatyana Shcherbina and Victoria
00:07:18Popova. And today our guest is the director of the National
00:07:21Personal Data Protection Center, Andrey Gaev. Hello, Andrey
00:07:24Anatolievich. Hello. A large-scale draft law with amendments
00:07:28to the Law on Personal Data Protection was recently sent to the Council of
00:07:32Ministers. What key practical problems prompted these
00:07:36changes? In fact, there is nothing
00:07:40extraordinary, urgent, or sensational
00:07:42about
00:07:45this issue. It is routine work over
00:07:485 years that has been carried out on the application of the law on personal
00:07:52data protection. This is how it is accepted in our country:
00:07:55for a five-year period, regulatory acts are applied.
00:07:59If no adjustment was required earlier, and it's good when it wasn't,
00:08:02then after this time, an
00:08:06analysis of the norms is carried out to see how
00:08:09they work and what needs to be
00:08:42improved for the application. There are things that we want to
00:08:45simplify with
00:08:47the collection, dissemination of information about
00:08:51us. Something is missing in the legal regulation regarding, for example,
00:08:55issues related to artificial intelligence
00:08:58technologies, video and audio recording.
00:09:01These issues are proposed based on the
00:09:04results of monitoring carried out with
00:09:08the participation of state bodies. We
00:09:10organized sociological...
00:10:12we will then discuss what citizens' wishes have been taken into account.
00:10:16You said that
00:10:19the new norms expand the list of grounds for processing
00:10:23data without consent. Citizens, in which
00:10:26cases do we no longer need to ask
00:10:30for consent? For example, a common question:
00:10:33each of us practically deals with
00:10:37concluding contracts daily. And today, for example, if a mother
00:10:40concludes an insurance contract for her son or
00:10:43daughter, the daughter is a third party
00:10:46in a legal sense, then today the issue of processing
00:10:50information of this third
00:10:53person is not regulated
00:10:57by law. And, for example, for purposes related to contractual
00:11:01relations, when we conclude a contract with a hairdresser
00:11:04verbally, or buy something serious,
00:11:07for example, an apartment, and conclude a written sales contract,
00:11:11no consent is required for these relations.
00:11:15But when it comes to concluding a contract for the benefit of another
00:11:18person, when an employer insures, for example, his
00:11:22employees, there is a practical question here. Of course,
00:11:25no consents should be taken in essence, and this
00:11:28is directly enshrined in the draft law. For example,
00:11:31when a person wants to get a job and
00:11:34sends his resume in electronic format to
00:11:38the organization's email, today this is outside
00:11:41the scope of legal regulation. The legislation is structured so that
00:11:44to process personal data, either a legal norm or the consent
00:11:48of the person is needed. For these relations, because these are not yet employment
00:11:51relations, for employment relations,
00:11:55consent is not needed, but this is a preceding stage.
00:11:58Formally, consent is needed, so it will be deemed necessary to
00:12:01move away from this. News content on websites for
00:12:05state organizations, there is a government
00:12:09decree that states that all information that
00:12:12is generated in the activities of state bodies and organizations can
00:12:16be displayed on websites and well, accordingly, this information
00:12:19also includes content about a person,
00:12:23a participant in the event.
00:13:25mobile operator allows
00:13:28its clients,
00:13:32who are simultaneously clients of, for example, one of
00:13:35the banks, to receive a discount on their subscriber
00:13:38fee. Organizations hold
00:13:41events, conferences, seminars,
00:13:45training events. Several organizations unite
00:13:48and achieve this common
00:13:51goal. Organizations, for example, belonging to
00:13:55one industry, for example, arranging real estate, you can
00:13:59apply, for example, living in Gomel, for
00:14:02the registration of rights to real estate located in
00:14:06Brest. Accordingly, they also solve this common
00:14:10task, and they are essentially co-operators in such a
00:14:13situation. But how are these relationships
00:14:15formalized, who should interact
00:14:19with citizens, where are the clear boundaries between the rights and
00:14:22obligations of these parties?
00:15:37personal data processing is one of
00:15:40the duties of any legal entity and
00:15:43entrepreneur, because, of course, business is moving into the digital
00:15:47sphere today,
00:15:49and with it comes the processing of significant
00:15:52amounts of personal data. Money is
00:15:55earned on this, money is earned on our information, so
00:15:58the legislator said that
00:16:01there are a number of mandatory measures that organizations must
00:16:05implement. One of these measures is related to
00:17:15it's something similar to occupational safety, that's
00:17:19more understandable, it has evolved over time, there's a person
00:17:22in the organization responsible for occupational safety, what you're
00:17:26talking about, is related to attracting
00:17:30organizations for certain processes,
00:17:33other people, assistants, that is, for example, when...
00:17:38The same mobile operator attracts a company
00:17:42that deals with sending SMS
00:17:45messages from this operator
00:17:48to specific consumers
00:17:51of services. At this stage, at the stage
00:17:54of attracting other organizations,
00:17:57indeed there are problems and
00:18:00quite often they arise, based on last year's practice, and
00:18:04the trend continues this year, about 40.
00:18:37also in the draft
00:18:39amendment to the law on personal data protection,
00:18:43clearer rules for interaction
00:18:46between operators and authorized persons are provided. Is
00:18:50responsibility provided? There is responsibility, it
00:18:53is provided for by the Code of Administrative
00:18:56Offenses. It is not
00:18:59that great, but nevertheless, there is criminal
00:19:02responsibility for what to build all
00:19:05this, if responsible.
00:19:37The main block of problems arises when working
00:19:40with those who help the organization
00:19:44build their business. Organizations are held
00:19:48accountable. The legislator
00:19:51deliberately did not go for stricter administrative
00:19:54liability, because well, after all,
00:19:57the law on personal data protection also
00:20:01needs to be accustomed to. The practice of applying
00:20:04similar legislative acts worldwide shows
00:20:08that a certain amount of time must pass. In some countries,
00:20:12this takes decades to restructure
00:20:15business processes in organizations,
00:20:18to make citizens
00:20:21aware of the value of their personal data. Well, it's no secret that we
00:20:24often used to treat information
00:20:28about ourselves quite superficially. We
00:20:31did not face the other side of these
00:20:34phenomena, we did not see
00:20:37the variety of fraudulent and other
00:20:40negative influences on us through
00:20:44personal information that have fallen
00:20:47upon us in recent years. I
00:20:50understand when you simplify, that is, you don't have to sign
00:20:53a paper in every household chemicals store
00:20:57when you get a discount card.
00:21:00This was already, you know, on the verge of paranoia. That is, it's
00:21:03a waste of paper, in my opinion, and
00:21:06how exactly will we get used to this
00:21:10idea that there should be digital hygiene, if in every
00:21:13store we sign consent to something, and we don't know where this
00:21:17database will end up next time, and responsibly.
00:22:20when we see that
00:22:24the way this process of collecting, using,
00:22:26disseminating and otherwise processing personal data is built,
00:22:30it can simply lead, or is already leading, to catastrophic consequences in the near future. In order
00:22:34to prevent these
00:22:37unfavorable consequences, the center is endowed
00:22:40with the right to consider complaints, issue
00:22:44mandatory compliance orders regarding the
00:22:48implementation of legislation. When
00:22:50we see that orders are not
00:22:53being fulfilled, this rarely happens, but
00:22:56it does happen. We send materials to the internal affairs bodies, they
00:23:00are authorized to prosecute offenders for
00:23:03administrative or other liability provided for by law. But I can
00:23:06definitely say that fines are not the
00:23:10issue here. This five-year
00:23:13experience of applying the law on personal data protection shows
00:23:17this transformation of views, not only
00:23:20among citizens, but also among organizations regarding the construction of their
00:23:23business processes. Organizations today treat
00:23:26personal data processing differently. They understand that
00:23:30often this is their competitive advantage,
00:23:33and here, besides the fine, the loss
00:23:37of reputation is very important.
00:23:38Organizations
00:23:41are afraid to lose personal data
00:23:44and give it to an uncontrolled sphere, because
00:23:46this entails a serious outflow
00:23:50of clients, it entails serious financial losses.
00:23:54Last year, one of the information
00:23:58resources of a trade organization was suspended for
00:24:01several days, and accordingly, the organization suffered
00:24:05six-figure losses, it just suffered losses due to
00:24:08similar outflows of clients, they lost money, and
00:24:12of course, we understand that
00:24:15there is still a long way to go in forming
00:24:18competent
00:24:20application of personal
00:24:24data legislation, but already
00:24:2892% of organizations, according to sociological
00:24:32research, note
00:24:35the importance of personal data protection
00:24:38and the necessity of dealing with these issues, and
00:24:42more than half of those
00:24:45surveyed stated that creating
00:24:48competitive advantages in organizing
00:24:52proper personal data protection within organizations
00:24:55themselves, although you are right, there are enough problems. Recently
00:24:58we checked one of the large trading
00:25:01operators, neither the person responsible for internal
00:25:05control, nor a clear understanding of who
00:25:08personal data is transferred to, unfortunately, is still
00:25:11not visible. In another large
00:25:14entity, a person dealing with personal
00:25:17data protection is even,
00:25:21let's say, very far away, for a few minutes a day, and
00:25:23at the same time, in essence, there, well, probably
00:25:26at least, well, I'll say, a large, large part
00:25:30of our citizens interact with this
00:25:33organization, transferring personal data there. I believe this
00:25:37is due to staff turnover, because there are constantly new young people
00:25:41appearing, you know, they don't even know, the girl
00:25:44said, you compared it very well with labor
00:25:47protection. Approximately, that's how it
00:25:50becomes routine, yes, well, some quarterly
00:25:54marking of something, and what we ourselves don't fully understand. Nevertheless, in
00:25:572026, statistics showed that the number
00:26:00of citizen complaints about...
00:27:23In order to correctly organize personal data processing, there is all the methodology, step-by-step action algorithms,
00:27:26checklists, and template documents on the website of the National
00:27:30Personal Data Protection Center. Everything can
00:27:33be taken and adapted to your activities, that's
00:27:36the first thing. Second, one of
00:27:39the mandatory, again, measures for any organization is training its
00:27:43employees. This is also a big problem
00:27:46that many incidents arise precisely due to
00:27:50the fault of the organization's employees. Therefore,
00:27:53everyone, as in the field of labor protection, needs to be
00:27:57informed about what needs to be done at their workplaces.
00:28:01It is also necessary to ensure this necessary
00:28:05level of access, so that, conditionally, an employee of the human resources department does not
00:28:09have access to what the accountant
00:28:12works with.
00:28:15This training can be organized within the organization
00:28:19itself, that is, all the materials for this are also on
00:28:22the website of the National Personal Data Protection Center.
00:28:25And once every 5 years, such training in the organization
00:28:28is mandatory and should be carried out, and...
00:30:02about what can be recorded on a phone, what audio files,
00:30:06video, and what cannot, and for now let's take a short break,
00:30:22"Speak Up, Don't Be Silent" is on air again, and today our guest is the Director of the National Personal
00:30:26Data Protection Center, Andrey Gaev. Andrey Anatolyevich,
00:30:29it's a very big challenge, probably for...
00:31:02a lot of tasks, allows
00:31:05to calculate faster, analyze faster,
00:31:09give quite good quality results in education and economics,
00:31:13that's what we see in... uploaded
00:31:45to
00:31:53artificial intelligence systems sensitive
00:31:56data, amounting to tens of thousands of positions, to
00:32:00solve some of their tasks. An Excel file, you just put it there, and
00:32:04it's one thing if a person calculated it himself for some time,
00:32:08another thing to get an almost instant answer from it. At the same
00:32:11time, commercial information went into uncontrolled access:
00:35:45final decision, a person makes or still a factor, for now, the human
00:35:48factor makes the decision. If a person finds the strength and time to contact the
00:35:52central head office, find a specialist and sort something
00:35:55out there, then of course the human factor makes the final decision,
00:35:59but again, it's all, but again,
00:36:02if one of us
00:36:05feels, knows that a decision
00:36:08was made without considering all the circumstances related to
00:36:12their situation, you need to act. It's
00:36:15a program, speak up, don't be silent, you can't be silent, you can't be silent, you need to
00:36:18address it and work with it. By the way, an interesting point
00:36:22about the application of personal data legislation, returning to the topic
00:36:26of complaints, of which there are more,
00:37:27personal data. I never wrote anything to anyone, but here,
00:37:31as an ordinary citizen, I
00:37:34couldn't pass by, because in one of
00:37:37the cases, my data, which I changed
00:37:41in one of my personal accounts many years
00:37:44ago, for some reason remained unchanged with
00:37:48the same operator, with the same organization, several
00:37:52years later, when they sent me a
00:37:55sensitive message.
00:38:57disseminate information without the consent of another
00:39:00person about himself, but when
00:39:03you encounter the issue
00:39:07of improper application of legislation, but if we remain
00:39:09silent, then how will the situation improve? And
00:39:13in no case do I want to say that our organizations are not
00:39:17working. We see that this is a two-way street
00:39:20and what your research has led to. You
00:39:24said you need to understand the situation in the first and second cases. This is a
00:39:28mistake, the human factor is most often just
00:39:31or systemic.
00:39:34In my situations, it was directly
00:39:38the human factor, and you know,
00:39:42those incidents that occurred this year and those notifications that
00:39:46we receive, they just speak of
00:39:48the prevailing dominance, even
00:39:52of the human factor causing
00:39:55the problem over technology, that is, even...
00:40:27The investigation had already taken place based on the
00:40:31current situation, it was evident
00:40:33that in a number of cases, people did not realize the significance of what
00:40:37they were doing. They did not understand what exactly
00:40:40they were violating, they may have guessed,
00:40:42but
00:40:44the extent of responsibility and harm they caused, they always
00:40:48saw this. Belarus plans to
00:40:52more strictly regulate the use of audio recording and
00:40:55video surveillance. Tell us about it?
00:41:41audio recordings also at one time
00:41:44concerned emergency service workers,
00:41:48and there is a regulation allowing
00:41:51audio recording in emergency medical
00:41:54services. Similar regulation exists in the activities of mobile
00:41:58operators, when we contact them on the line to resolve certain
00:42:01issues, based on the nature of the discussed topic,
00:42:05corresponding recordings are made from October
00:42:075th by controllers. Yes.
00:43:10was recorded to improve quality, such situations also
00:43:13happen, but total
00:43:17video recording and
00:43:20audio recording in such situations has a very
00:43:23sensitive side to the issue,
00:43:26because there are situations, and not so
00:43:29rare, when in a doctor's office cameras are installed
00:43:33in rooms where people change clothes, a person
00:43:36is heard, examined.
00:43:40and a camera hangs there. In this situation, in order
00:43:43to make this recording, the patient's consent
00:43:46is generally required, if he agrees to it. Otherwise,
00:43:49as a general rule,
00:43:52unequivocally,
00:43:54a person must have the private opportunity
00:43:58to resolve the issue without
00:44:01this recording. That is, for example, if a person
00:44:05sees that video recording is taking place in
00:44:08a doctor's office, for example, they
00:44:12can ask for the recording to be stopped, and they
00:44:15have the right to refuse or not? They definitely
00:44:18do not have the right to continue making this recording
00:44:21if such a request is made.
00:44:25There is no legal basis to start this
00:44:28recording without the person's consent, but if it has happened, the person has the right
00:44:31to demand that this recording be stopped, deleted,
00:44:35and accordingly, the
00:44:38organization has the same obligation to
00:44:42comply with this request.
00:44:44Both the employer and the service provider
00:44:48must ensure
00:44:51the non-excessiveness of personal data processing and the existence of a legitimate
00:44:54basis. In the same medical center, of course,
00:44:57you can record premises, places where
00:45:01medical drugs, psychotropic substances, or
00:45:05other items are located. You can record without the person's consent.
00:45:09In resuscitation departments,
00:45:12where constant monitoring of the person's condition is necessary,
00:45:16accordingly, if a complex operation is being performed,
00:45:19specialists from outside are involved
00:45:23for telemedicine, so for providing
00:45:26consultative medical assistance, you can also
00:45:29record. The same applies to ordinary employers. If
00:45:33it's a warehouse, working with material assets, it's about
00:45:36the safety of these assets, so you can record
00:45:40what is happening. But if
00:45:44the camera's angle of view is on a person engaged in
00:45:47ordinary office activities,
00:45:50then the purpose of controlling discipline
00:45:53and installing a camera is not proportional to the circumstances
00:45:57of personal data processing, and we encounter situations when sometimes
00:46:01in order to, well, frankly speaking, get rid of a
00:46:04specific employee, a camera is installed over the workplace
00:46:08of one of them, and accordingly, well,
00:46:11a person, well, during the day, accumulates some set
00:46:14of circumstances and complains to you, they were fired, and you help
00:46:18them get reinstated in their workplace. We won't help them get reinstated
00:46:22in their job, because this
00:46:25is also a question
00:46:27of the existence of grounds for processing violations of personal
00:46:31data legislation, of course, in such situations, then we
00:46:35establish. All of us have phones, can we record everywhere
00:46:38now? Everything
00:46:42I see. Again, no one has the
00:46:45right to dispose of information about another
00:46:49person, this can only be done...
00:48:03Back on air, "Speak Up, Don't Be Silent," and today our guest is the director of the
00:48:06National Personal Data Protection Center, Andrey
00:48:10Gaev. Andrey Anatolyevich, how does the right to be
00:48:13forgotten work? If a person wants to completely disappear
00:48:16from the databases of an online store or some
00:48:19advertising service, where should they start?
00:49:22the seller to keep the contract for 3
00:49:26years, and if a tax audit was not conducted, then for
00:49:2910 years, that is, there is legislation, for example, on archival matters.
00:49:32paperwork, which obliges processing
00:49:36also in the form of storage during a certain
00:49:39period of time, therefore if
00:49:42consent, personal data was used,
00:49:45consent can be revoked, if there are no grounds for processing
00:49:49personal data, then no,
00:50:52consent, but it is not subject to withdrawal from circulation, uh-huh, well, it's
00:50:56time to ask you what digital hygiene rules you
00:51:00use, do you multiply
00:51:04loyalty cards from stores or on the contrary do not play these
00:51:08games, at some point in my life, when
00:51:12these cards started appearing, I played,
00:51:14then to my surprise I found that my wallet had swollen
00:51:18somehow, and then, then
00:51:21the situation changed, then
00:51:25actions and negative ones that we all
00:51:28hear about, and you know, the general trend, again,
00:51:32returning to the sociological research, we
00:51:34conducted the first in twenty-second year, now
00:51:38in twenty-sixth, and as
00:51:41for loyalty cards,
00:51:43if
00:51:46before, literally 4 years ago,
00:51:49about 25%
00:51:52of people were not willing to give
00:51:56personal data in exchange for a small discount in
00:51:59stores, now that percentage has changed,
00:52:03now about 60%, I say:
00:52:35I am not calling anyone, of course, to such actions as
00:52:38myself, it's only about awareness, why do you need it,
00:52:42yes, why do you need it, this is key, you are right,
00:52:45a very low percentage
00:52:48of discount, and here the game is never worth the candle, and
00:52:51it seems to me that this high percentage of refuseniks, so-called,
00:52:55will stimulate enterprises to offer some
00:52:59more significant bonuses for
00:53:02our personal data, you know, and so... on the
00:53:05other hand, we see that organizations, the same trade and
00:53:09services, they
00:53:11have already, many of them, a significant path of increasing
00:53:14the effectiveness of information protection and personal data, in particular,
00:53:18have gone through, they are dealing with these issues at a sufficiently serious
00:53:22level, very many organizations, it's true, we are happy to hear that, do you yourself
00:53:25use public Wi-Fi networks, maybe you have
00:53:29some applications from large foreign
00:53:31marketplaces installed, as for...
00:53:35public networks,
00:53:37I use them where I understand that it's safe, for example, when
00:53:41I come to our airport, I understand, for some
00:53:45reasons, it is necessary for some
00:53:49data to pass faster, if suddenly
00:53:51through mobile communication of the operator something
00:53:54passes a little slower, then in such situations
00:53:58I use it, but if I need to enter some data,
00:54:02no, no, I never do this,
00:54:05certainly not in my life, as for social
00:54:09networks, you know,
00:54:12I have enough to do
00:54:15to live my life differently, I am not
00:54:18ready to spend it
00:54:21contemplating someone else's life participating in
00:54:25discussions of those personal relationships that
00:54:28occur between others, I am not
00:54:31interested, I find answers to my questions
00:54:35in the classic internet, again, God forbid, I don't call for anything,
00:54:39well, for me it's
00:54:41like this, I spend contemplating
00:54:45the mobile phone screen somewhere from an hour to an hour and a half, and I say
00:54:48that this is a lot, I thought about
00:54:52field of personal data protection, we know that we are
00:54:56being listened to, and in some incredible way, I just
00:54:59hugged a singer in the corridor here, and they are already offering
00:55:03me her concert?
00:55:43maybe, and if I refuse, well, then Google will refuse me, that is, you understand, it's a one-sided game,
00:55:46absolutely fair, therefore.