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00:00:38we are back on "Punto de Referencia" and we are here talking with the Secretary of the Environment,
00:00:42Alicia Bárcena. Madam Secretary, we are talking
00:00:45about an effort that will take place during one day, a
00:00:49day, which is also planned to be repeated once a year
00:00:53starting in 2026, but I think
00:00:55it is important, this takes place within the framework of a much broader effort
00:00:59a consensus from the population that... has to do with the "Sembrando Vida" program, here we are talking about
00:01:026.6 million trees, but there is a goal
00:01:06of 1,500 million trees and plants by
00:01:102030, right?
00:01:13Yes, of course, what we want is for the country to be able to
00:01:16recover to a certain extent lost ground, right?
00:01:20We are deforesting annually around
00:01:24200,000 hectares a year and that is a huge figure, right?
00:01:28And we have significant losses. also due to forest fires,
00:01:31that is, this year alone we have almost
00:01:34846,000 hectares affected by fires
00:01:37also illegal logging which has also affected us
00:01:40a lot in the country and that is why this effort is so
00:01:43important and what we want to achieve is to
00:01:47recover the water cycle together
00:01:49cannibalism was not easy, what with the forests, with the jungles, eh, the mangroves
00:01:52etc., protect and regenerate the soils and also strengthen
00:01:56the forest economy because Mexico, for example, is
00:02:00importing boards, when we could produce them in
00:02:03Mexico with communities that are very important, it must
00:02:07be said that 60% of forest
00:02:10ecosystems are ejidal or
00:02:14communal or social right? And that is why the participation of
00:02:17communities is so important and this
00:02:20day implies the participation not only of the
00:02:23state governments, but of course of the
00:02:26ejidatarios, of the agrarian nuclei in general,
00:02:30of the municipalities, of all the states and of the federation
00:02:34where Sader, Conafor, Semarnat are, but
00:02:37also Sedena, Semar and this and the
00:02:41National Commission of Natural Protected Areas, because we will be in
00:02:45the 50 natural protected
00:02:48Today, areas this Sunday as well, so what
00:02:50we want is to really achieve a national
00:02:53effort, number one, number two, that it be
00:02:57permanent throughout the year, that is, obviously. we are in the rainy season
00:03:01and that helps these plants to
00:03:04survive, but the idea is that reforestation be
00:03:08continuous and that local populations help us
00:03:11to take care of what is planted this Sunday, Madam Secretary, and in that
00:03:14sense, to say goodbye, how do we all and all of us contribute from where
00:03:17we can contribute, there are many comments on social networks that precisely
00:03:21ask us that question and that also join in a very important way, even already
00:03:25supporting from now,
00:03:27tomorrow we are going to publish and this
00:03:31question is very important, Luisa, thank you very much, we want
00:03:34people to participate from wherever they are, to
00:03:39the most vulnerable sectors of plant, to join this great effort and we have a
00:03:43page that tomorrow will be
00:03:46a very important moment that will be called
00:03:50"jornadanacionaldereforestación.gov.mx",
00:03:52it will be a microsite where
00:03:55we will put the specific places where... in each
00:03:58state, these polygons that we have chosen will be reforested
00:04:02where the governors will be, but there will also be other indicated
00:04:06sites where the planters of the "Sembrando Vida" program will be,
00:04:10those from Conafor, those from Conamp, for example, here in the Valley of
00:04:13Mexico we will have a very important site in Texcoco
00:04:17where the protected natural area will be
00:04:20where people are very welcome in Lake
00:04:23Texcoco which has been so rescued there we want
00:04:26to extensively reforest. but also Mexico City has
00:04:30chosen places, a very beautiful place and I think
00:04:34hopefully all citizens will be able to accompany us,
00:04:37in the microsite the specific place will be indicated,
00:04:41state by state also where they can
00:04:45join because that is where there will be the plants that they can
00:04:48precisely use, well, here we will give all the information about that
00:04:52microsite, Madam Secretary, there is the invitation, thank you very
00:04:55much for these minutes for the audience to inform about this that is so
00:04:59important. in point of reference and
00:05:02to call on all citizens, this is a citizen
00:05:06act and I thank President Claudia Sheinbaum for
00:05:10supporting us in this great reforestation and
00:05:13restoration exercise, thank you very much to both, Luisa and
00:05:16Azul, thank you very much, Madam Secretary, good evening,
00:05:20hug, there is the information, remember from now on write down
00:05:24jornadanacionaldereforestación.gov.mx
00:05:27to follow up and we will be informing, let's see, let's go with
00:05:30more, because Mexico won an international arbitration
00:05:33related to a debt of TV Azteca with two investment funds in
00:05:37New York, you surely remember these investment funds, Cyrus Capital
00:05:40Partners and Contrarian Capital. management that claimed more than
00:05:44219 million dollars, which they assure Ricardo
00:05:47Salinas Pliego's company did not pay. In addition, they accused that a
00:05:51resolution by a judge in Mexico City left them without this
00:05:54possibility of collecting that money, for which
00:05:57they held the Mexican state responsible and took this case to
00:06:01an international tribunal. Now, let's not forget that this conflict
00:06:04began in 2017 when TV Azteca issued debt
00:06:08bonds to obtain financing. The two
00:06:11funds, these funds, bought these bonds, but then
00:06:14denounced that the company did not pay, fulfilled these payments,
00:06:18however, the International Center for Settlement of Investment Disputes
00:06:22known as ICSID, ruled in favor of the Mexican government and
00:06:25concluded that it is a conflict between private parties, that is, the
00:06:29debt can still be claimed from the company and
00:06:33the Mexican state has no responsibility for that
00:06:37debt. Let's go now to more economic matters,
00:06:41you know that there is nothing more than to look daily at the price of a barrel
00:06:44of oil to detect this enormous speculation that surrounds
00:06:48that market within the framework, of course, of the war of the United States against
00:06:51Iran, it is a situation that has affected entire
00:06:54economies around the world, while there are other companies that are
00:06:58becoming millionaires, here we tell you the story and explain
00:07:02why.
00:07:04So far this year, the price of oil in global markets suffered the
00:07:08impact of the war between the United States and Israel against Iran, which blocked the
00:07:11distribution of around 20% of the oil consumed
00:07:15in the world, causing the biggest hydrocarbon
00:07:19distribution crisis in history. With less
00:07:21oil available in the global market, its price increased
00:07:25and, consequently, the profits of oil companies
00:07:29doubled. The eight largest oil companies in the world
00:07:32made profits of more than 90 billion dollars in just
00:07:36three months, practically double their profits obtained in the
00:07:40same period a year ago. Saudi Aramco, BP,
00:07:44Shell, Equinor, Total Energies, Eni, Chevron
00:07:47and Exxon Mobil together obtained profits of
00:07:51$700,000 every minute. The
00:07:54company that benefited most from the conflict, despite suffering
00:07:58drone and missile attacks on some of its plants, was the
00:08:02Saudi oil company Aramco, with a 34%
00:08:05increase in its profits during the first 3 months of the
00:08:08year, which is equivalent to more than 33 million dollars.
00:08:13The Dutch company Shell reported that in the same quarter it obtained
00:08:16profits of 9.8 billion dollars,
00:08:20making it the second most lucrative quarter in its long
00:08:23history. The American companies Chevron and Exxon
00:08:26Mobil, for their part, obtained 12 and 14
00:08:30million respectively in the same period. Chevron
00:08:34practically quintupled its profits. War
00:08:37is terrible in its human costs, but, as the
00:08:41saying goes, it is also an excellent business for a
00:08:44few. Rodrigo de la Vega, point of
00:08:47reference.
00:08:51Well, we are very, very happy here because Carolina
00:08:55Hernández Calvario, economist and researcher from
00:08:58UAM-Iztapalapa, who was in China, is back with us. You remember that she has been sharing
00:09:02reflections with us, but now she is
00:09:04here.
00:09:12she will return, of course, to share with the
00:09:15audience increasingly profound and calmer
00:09:19and calmer reflections, which is often needed, right? We are always at
00:09:23such an accelerated pace, but well, Carolina, let's start
00:09:26here, we were seeing, there are two
00:09:30big situations that at this moment, I mean there are more, but
00:09:33let me talk about these two that are generating economic distortions
00:09:37worldwide, on the one hand the issue of oil
00:09:40price speculation, we are talking about
00:09:43that they have been frankly affected by the issue of Hormuz
00:09:46and eh and by the war and the other is that of tariffs,
00:09:50there is a second wave of tariffs from the United States,
00:09:54there is already a response from China, in short,
00:09:57I would like you to put us a little e in the
00:10:01clarity of saying where we are in this panorama,
00:10:04well, look, as you put it, it is very interesting
00:10:08because we are used to understanding geopolitics
00:10:12as... these barriers to the entry of certain products affecting
00:10:15trade, but the extreme of geoeconomics
00:10:19is now expressed in war, in this war
00:10:22that has open economic
00:10:26purposes, in fact I was trying to remember what
00:10:30was the justification for starting the war with Iran
00:10:34and it was a regime change, then it moved precisely to
00:10:38this narrative of nuclear weapons, now we don't know
00:10:41and what we see is a series of speculation that is
00:10:44affecting of course practically half the
00:10:48world and is benefiting the companies as was shown in the
00:10:52report, so making the analysis of
00:10:56the price of oil takes us to two levels, the first level is
00:11:00that of the real economy and the second that of
00:11:02speculation, that of the real economy expressed in the
00:11:06deterioration of the infrastructure that is affecting supply and that
00:11:09joins the blockade in Hormuz, which we are
00:11:13talking about nearly a fifth of the world's
00:11:16oil, but the speculation is also
00:11:19extremely serious, why, because we have to
00:11:22understand that oil prices
00:11:25are not only governed by supply and
00:11:29demand, that is, between producers and buyers, but also these
00:11:33speculators who are making bets on
00:11:36future prices, so
00:11:39there is a very select group of
00:11:42people who unfortunately are benefiting from the war,
00:11:46in economics there is a very tragic phrase,
00:11:49but which is now being proven, that when the cannons
00:11:53sound, money moves before
00:11:56the tanks, right? And that
00:12:00is seen by all this financial speculation,
00:12:03that is, the market of real products
00:12:07only represents a fraction, unfortunately minimal, of
00:12:10all this speculation that there is in the price
00:12:13of a good that has to be seen
00:12:17as a human right and not as a commodity of
00:12:20speculation that benefits not only these large companies that
00:12:23obtain profits due to the
00:12:27increase in the price of their products due to the
00:12:31speculation that they themselves are
00:12:34generating, but also by investment funds, also by
00:12:38banks that are selling uncertainty, uncertainty
00:12:42bonds and are also generating these
00:12:44derivatives eh that come from
00:12:47volatility, but we also see that there are a
00:12:50series of eh facts that make
00:12:54the economic policy of the United States
00:12:57questionable, even by the Nobel Prize winner in economics,
00:13:00Krugman, who openly tells you, this is
00:13:03treason, because a suspicion of speculation
00:13:06due to the prices due to the announcements made by the
00:13:10president of the United States has been demonstrated, which is now
00:13:14even proven, of course, so that is a betrayal of the
00:13:17very people of the United States, affecting
00:13:20consumers, consumers
00:13:24worldwide, so
00:13:27this situation is accompanied by the
00:13:30tension that continues to increase in
00:13:33terms of tariffs and that, as you already mentioned, there is a response from
00:13:37China, but we can see there that the response
00:13:41is much more subtle, why, because it is
00:13:44not eh a machete blow but with
00:13:47a scalpel, there are six companies that are
00:13:50linked and justified with a policy contrary to the
00:13:53security of... China and
00:13:56restrictions are being placed on the
00:14:00exports of products that contribute to the
00:14:04maintenance and technological reinforcement of drones that
00:14:07had previously been sanctioned
00:14:10in December 2025 by the United States,
00:14:14so there are policies and a diplomacy
00:14:17that tells you that it is with much more detail
00:14:21and that is what needs to be done when you have real
00:14:25diplomacy and we see the United States diplomacy
00:14:28cabinet and it is far from benefiting collective
00:14:32interests, well China has done well, now
00:14:35tell us what you saw there, well,
00:14:38look, it's a trip that I took, a
00:14:41trip that, without exaggeration,
00:14:45I do come with a future perspective that is
00:14:48quite
00:14:50eh quite excited to analyze because it is a real
00:14:54alternative. That is, China is a country that is
00:14:57building its own world, we
00:15:00are living in a world built
00:15:03precisely by the United States and its European
00:15:06antecedents, as a reference, right? As a reference, but we realize
00:15:10that in this geo-economic
00:15:13and geopolitical order there are alternatives
00:15:17and it made me reflect a lot with our country
00:15:20and also look at the conditions we have
00:15:24here in... Mexico, China is growing in a
00:15:27way that is linked with other countries through the
00:15:31Silk Road and I remembered where our
00:15:34Indo-American routes are that were part of this.
00:15:37recovery, well, historical, of empowering
00:15:40different markets, the hegemony that was implemented from
00:15:44the 20th century, so it is a country
00:15:47that gives much to analyze
00:15:50here in the West,
00:15:53because it has a security policy that is
00:15:56palpable due to the political centrality it manages, but with
00:16:00economic planning and with
00:16:03palpable growth results. and that
00:16:06is what is also putting this world
00:16:10order at stake, which is already
00:16:13obsolete, which was the one that was erected in the 20th century,
00:16:17so it is very important that the
00:16:20audience and that we here are reflecting on these
00:16:23alternatives, especially if we are also in a process
00:16:27of eh transformation also of
00:16:30ties with other countries, for example, the case of
00:16:34Brazil in energy matters is very
00:16:37attractive and important to promote, because it tells us about
00:16:41an energy strategy from state
00:16:44platforms expressed in companies
00:16:47that are precisely energy
00:16:50producers, but that are under a logic
00:16:54of public policy for the benefit of the
00:16:57population, so these aspects of the international
00:17:00order are fundamental to
00:17:03avoid these speculative risks that as
00:17:15but here a few are making fortunes at the expense of humanity's well-being, you mentioned this memorandum of
00:17:19understanding between Pemex and Petrobras that precisely
00:17:22aims to build this
00:17:25self-sufficiency where we do not depend on prices from other
00:17:28places, and we have this South-South cooperation that is
00:17:31so important not just normally.
00:17:34that we have well, it seems inherently
00:17:37in our development, yes, well, we are where we are too,
00:17:40dear Caro, always, always a pleasure to have
00:17:44you and we will see you next Wednesday already with
00:17:47you here, well,
00:17:51there is this information and remember
00:17:52this, we don't always need to import
00:17:55realities, we can build our own, we told you that President
00:17:58Claudia received precisely at the National Palace
00:18:02the cardinal. Secretary of State of the
00:18:05Vatican. At the meeting, topics such as the first
00:18:09encyclical of Pope Leo XIV were discussed, where he reflects on the
00:18:12ethical criteria in the use of artificial intelligence, this within the framework of the
00:18:16national discussion on the regulation of social
00:18:20networks and artificial intelligence in schools.
00:18:25eh, the Pope also
00:18:28represents a vision
00:18:32of a debate that we have been having here
00:18:36related to digital
00:18:39platforms and artificial intelligence,
00:18:42the encyclical that he published a few months
00:18:46ago is a
00:18:50worldwide reference for
00:18:53a debate about who controls these
00:18:56platforms, who defines the
00:18:59content, how
00:19:03are the algorithms designed?
00:19:07Where are we going as humanity, they also
00:19:11talked about the calls the pontiff has made for peace and closeness to
00:19:17the population, previously the president reiterated the invitation for Pope
00:19:20Leo XIV to visit our
00:19:23country,
00:19:26and amid a new escalation in arrests
00:19:29by ICE, agents of the Immigration and Customs
00:19:32Enforcement eh once again broke their record for arrests by
00:19:36reaching nearly 51,000 people in July, the highest
00:19:40monthly figure since the creation of DHS.
00:19:44In June, this figure, which was already very high, was around
00:19:4743,000 arrests. Last
00:19:50month, operations also reached airports, where more than 30 people
00:19:53were arrested and in that context, Mark Wayne
00:19:57Milin boasted about carrying out 4,200 arrests daily and
00:20:01denied that deportations are being
00:20:03stopped. Let's go to Latin American issues because the
00:20:07government of Brazil decided to withdraw its ambassador to Argentina, Guillermo
00:20:10Raymondi. This comes as a response to the statements and insults of the Argentine
00:20:14president Javier Milei against his Brazilian counterpart Luiz Inácio Lula
00:20:18da Silva. This precisely
00:20:21generated a moment where diplomatic relations are being reduced to
00:20:25chargés d'affaires in their respective embassies, that's where it's
00:20:28staying.
00:20:30From our side there will be no diplomatic action in response
00:20:34eh to what Brazil does. Brazil has every
00:20:37right to make the decisions it wants, we will continue
00:20:41to maintain relations at the level
00:20:44that eh Brazil
00:20:47decides, remember that on July
00:20:5027th, Milei attended an event in Sao Paulo to support the
00:20:54far-right presidential candidate Flavio
00:20:57Bolsonaro, in an open intervention in Brazil's internal
00:21:00affairs, remember, he is Jair Bolsonaro's son, let's see, for now diplomatic
00:21:04relations between Brazil and Argentina, which share a border and
00:21:08also form part of the Southern Common Market Mercosur, are at
00:21:12perhaps the lowest point in their recent
00:21:15history.
00:21:17And now we go to Gaza amidst a... that has practically become
00:21:21a dead letter, the support of the US public opinion for
00:21:24Israel continues to weaken, a
00:21:27Pew Center survey revealed that unfavorable
00:21:30public opinion among US citizens towards the Israeli
00:21:33government increased to 62%, particularly towards its policy
00:21:36with Gaza, compared to
00:21:3843% who supported it in 2022,
00:21:42this after 2 years of genocide in Gaza. The
00:21:46occupation does not even have
00:21:49of Israel, with 62% disapproving it,
00:21:52that is, the public discussion in the two
00:21:55countries from which a large part of the current situation in
00:21:59the Middle East is decided, do not look favorably on Netanyahu's
00:22:03policy, today a fugitive from the International Criminal Court for crimes
00:22:06against humanity, it is that after Gaza has been practically
00:22:10devastated, the supposed truce signed a
00:22:13year ago with the consent of the Donald
00:22:16Trump administration has resulted in soldiers
00:22:20stationed in Gaza, the advance in the occupation of areas of the West
00:22:23Bank by Israeli settlers and bombing of civilian areas of
00:22:27Palestinian territory and southern Lebanon. Since October, when the
00:22:30supposed truce began, 1,255 civilians have died in constant
00:22:34Israeli attacks. Since the beginning of the offensive in 2023, more
00:22:37than 73,000 Palestinians have
00:22:41died because of this country
00:22:42and
00:22:46we are going to completely change the tone, the FIFA
00:22:50plot continues and there is a lot of desperation, but hands are already being forced, dear
00:22:53Diego, hello, good evening Luisa Azul, eh, well yes,
00:22:57good old Gianni Infantino continues to give us meat to talk
00:23:01about a little and also kicking in vain, because today he went
00:23:05to meet with the federations of the African continent to
00:23:08make them a quite juicy proposal for them, but also
00:23:12quite immoral, let's see a little what it was
00:23:14about.
00:23:20A weakened Gianni Infantino called an emergency meeting with
00:23:23his inner circle and some of the representatives of the
00:23:27main confederations. After the meeting held in
00:23:30Morocco, FIFA published a statement in which they assure that the
00:23:34president has the support of the hard core of the institution,
00:23:37so they will not allow more criticism of his management. In addition,
00:23:41they admitted to having made mistakes and apologized
00:23:45for them. After this, the president of the Moroccan
00:23:48Federation came out to... publicly support Infantino, the
00:23:52striking thing is that he did so just a few hours after
00:23:56a newspaper published that his country had been awarded the final of the
00:23:59next World Cup that was originally to be held
00:24:03at the Santiago Bernabéu stadium inTELEVISION NEWS TRANSCRIPT: Madrid, the
00:24:06conditions were that both the first game of the
00:24:09World Cup and the last, which are the two most important, the opening
00:24:13game, and the final would
00:24:16be played in Spain, also that
00:24:20a semifinal and two quarterfinals would be played in Spain, this
00:24:24was unchangeable. Morocco's support is important for
00:24:27Infantino, as its president has a significant vote in the
00:24:30African confederation, the second largest within the
00:24:34organization. Earlier in the day, former Portuguese national team captain
00:24:38Luis Figo expressed the urgency of changing
00:24:41leadership within FIFA. In 2016, Figo
00:24:44competed against Infantino for the presidency, although in the end
00:24:48he ended up declining his favor.
00:24:50Demands for a transformation reached Canadian Prime Minister Mark
00:24:54Carney. I certainly have no confidence in Mr.
00:24:57Infantino. After this, given what happened and
00:25:01the nature of what happened. Carney's claim is not the only one among
00:25:05recent host countries. In Mexico, the three cities
00:25:08reported that they were not offered financial support,
00:25:12unlike the U.S. state cities that are now demanding the
00:25:15pending million dollars. Pressure grows as Infantino
00:25:19receives. to leave
00:25:20office
00:25:25Diego Camacho, point of
00:25:26reference,
00:25:31the United States venues have not been paid here, this wasn't
00:25:34even offered, they didn't even offer it, imagine,
00:25:38so, well, but here we do support what Infantino says,
00:25:42well, not us, not us, Mexican Football Federation, which you'll
00:25:45tell us about tomorrow, tomorrow we'll tell you because the Mexican Football Federation is
00:25:49involved in a big plot in which they disappeared the promotion, but that
00:25:53will be tomorrow's topic, I think what is happening
00:25:57exposes the problem in FIFA's governance, because today
00:26:00Infantino is there, Blatter was there in his time,
00:26:04Havelange was there, the same thing has happened, the problem is that the governance and the model
00:26:08they have in FIFA just doesn't work, it's a model that lends itself to
00:26:11bribes, that lends itself to corruption, that lends itself to
00:26:15everything, because they simulate a democracy, no, that's what's at the
00:26:18bottom of it, and as long as that doesn't change, isn't regulated, and they enjoy political
00:26:22immunity, then this will keep happening, today
00:26:25Matt Carne at least said something, right, uh, Blatter
00:26:29fell when heads of state began to speak out against
00:26:33him, it seems that's what they don't allow politics to get involved in,
00:26:35well, let's see how this evolves,
00:26:39Diego, indeed, many have raised their voices in one sense,
00:26:43now we see this issue of Morocco and let's see what happens, for now
00:26:46there's a lot of desperation and indeed a tremendous
00:26:50, brutal corruption atmosphere, we're leaving, thank you very much for joining us at reference
00:26:54point and we'll see you tomorrow at 9, we wish you a good rest today
00:26:58and you too, thanks Azul, thanks, good night, good night, thanks
00:27:01Diego. We have news from the 2024 Children's and
00:27:05Youth Consultation. Let's go with our correspondent. Hello
00:27:09Maria, share one of your opinions that there should be no violence on
00:27:12the internet. Save rainwater for
00:27:15schools. Have
00:27:18clinics that attend to our mental health. The INEP
00:27:21promotes our opinions so that they can be heard by the
00:27:25authorities. Consult the results. See
00:27:28you at the 2027 consultation. INE.
00:28:05I think we are witnessing a new episode in
00:28:08football, how football is being instrumentalized is what seems
00:28:12dangerous
00:28:12to me.
00:28:22Yes, I understand, Jani, yes I
00:28:25understand, you brought money, you brought
00:28:28money, but your image is terrible.
00:29:54Next, the secrets of
00:29:57corruption.
00:30:03Classification A for all audiences.