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00:59:30Everybody's in panic mode, witnessing their struggles and
00:59:33resilience.
00:59:35I'm OK. This is really my last hurrah. Investigating and
00:59:39digging for the fact it's actually a picture of me and
00:59:42her, you know? See. Yeah, you can see that for sure.
00:59:45That's on her tombstone to get you answers. That's your friend
00:59:49and that's you.
00:59:51I'm Adrian Arseneau. This is the National Canada's newscast.
01:00:12We're we're all about explaining and expanding Stream
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01:00:29I'm Adrian Arceneaux, chief correspondent for CBC News. Here's what's making news right now.
01:00:36ANOTHER MAJOR STORY WE'RE FOLLOWING.
01:00:41FOLLOWING. THE ARABIAN PENINSULA IS
01:00:42THE ARABIAN PENINSULA IS EMERGING AT LATEST FLASH POINT
01:00:45EMERGING AT LATEST FLASH POINT IN THE WIDENING WAR IN THE IN THE WIDENING WAR IN THE MIDDLE EAST. MIDDLE EAST. THE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT HAS
01:00:49THE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT HAS BEEN TARGETED TODAY. BEEN TARGETED TODAY. JUST 24 HOURS AFTER THE COUNTRY
01:00:52JUST 24 HOURS AFTER THE COUNTRY WAS LEFT REELING FROM ITS WAS LEFT REELING FROM ITS DEADLIEST ATTACK IN MORE THAN A
01:00:55DEADLIEST ATTACK IN MORE THAN A DECADE. DECADE. AT LEAST 12 PEOPLE ARE DEAD.
01:00:58AT LEAST 12 PEOPLE ARE DEAD. HUNDREDS MORE WOUNDED AFTER AN
01:01:00HUNDREDS MORE WOUNDED AFTER AN AIRSTRIKE THAT THE SEAU D --
01:01:06AIRSTRIKE THAT THE SEAU D -- SAUDIS ARE BLAME ON THE
01:01:10SAUDIS ARE BLAME ON THE IRAN-BLACKED HOUTHI REBEL.
01:01:13IRAN-BLACKED HOUTHI REBEL. THE U.K. COULD POTENTIALLY
01:01:16THE U.K. COULD POTENTIALLY PROVIDE MORE MILITARY ASSISTANCE PROVIDE MORE MILITARY ASSISTANCE TO THE SAUDIS.
01:01:19TO THE SAUDIS. >> EVEN IN THE CONTEXT OF
01:01:29>> EVEN IN THE CONTEXT OF HOUTHIS ATTACKS. HOUTHIS ATTACKS. THERE WERE HUNDREDS OF THERE WERE HUNDREDS OF CASUALTIES.
01:01:33CASUALTIES. AN ATTACK ON THE CIVILIANS CAN'T
01:01:35AN ATTACK ON THE CIVILIANS CAN'T BE JUSTIFIED.
01:01:37BE JUSTIFIED. >> Natasha: THE RIYADH AIRPORT >> Natasha: THE RIYADH AIRPORT REMAINS CLOSED. REMAINS CLOSED. THE HOUTHIS HAVE WARNED ALL
01:01:41THE HOUTHIS HAVE WARNED ALL AIRLINES TO STAY CLEAR OF SAUDI AIRLINES TO STAY CLEAR OF SAUDI AIRSPACE.
01:01:45AIRSPACE. THE ESCALATING TENSIONS HAVE
01:01:49THE ESCALATING TENSIONS HAVE DELAYED OR CANCELLED HUNDREDS OF DELAYED OR CANCELLED HUNDREDS OF FLIGHTS.
01:01:52FLIGHTS. DONALD TRUMP SAYS HE'S PLANNING
01:01:54DONALD TRUMP SAYS HE'S PLANNING TO TALK TO SAUDI ARABIA'S CROWN
01:01:57TO TALK TO SAUDI ARABIA'S CROWN PRINCE, MOHAMMED BIN SALMAN PRINCE, MOHAMMED BIN SALMAN ABOUT POSSIBLE U.S. MILITARY ABOUT POSSIBLE U.S. MILITARY INTERVENTION.
01:02:01INTERVENTION. CBC'S TOM PARRY IS TRACKING CBC'S TOM PARRY IS TRACKING THESE DEVELOPMENTS FOR US AND
01:02:04THESE DEVELOPMENTS FOR US AND JOIN US FROM JERUSALEM. JOIN US FROM JERUSALEM. WHAT MORE DO WE KNOW ABOUT THE
01:02:07WHAT MORE DO WE KNOW ABOUT THE LATEST STRIKE ON THE AIRPORT
01:02:08LATEST STRIKE ON THE AIRPORT HAPPENING JUST TODAY?
01:02:12HAPPENING JUST TODAY? >> Reporter: WELL, NATASHA, >> Reporter: WELL, NATASHA, JUST A FEW MINUTES, AGO, SOME
01:02:15JUST A FEW MINUTES, AGO, SOME NEWS MOVED ON THE WIRES SAYING
01:02:18NEWS MOVED ON THE WIRES SAYING THE IRAN-BACKED HOUTHIS HAVE
01:02:21THE IRAN-BACKED HOUTHIS HAVE TAKEN RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE TAKEN RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE ATTACK ON THE AIRPORT IN RIYADH
01:02:24ATTACK ON THE AIRPORT IN RIYADH THAT KILLED 12 PEOPLE AND
01:02:27THAT KILLED 12 PEOPLE AND INJURED 300. INJURED 300. WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THEM YET. WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THEM YET. THEY ARE TAKING RESPONSIBILITY
01:02:31THEY ARE TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS ATTACK. FOR THIS ATTACK. AS YOU MENTIONED AS WELL, THAT
01:02:35AS YOU MENTIONED AS WELL, THAT AIRPORT CAME UNDER ATTACK AGAIN AIRPORT CAME UNDER ATTACK AGAIN TODAY.
01:02:39TODAY. SAUDI OFFICIALS SAYING SAUDI OFFICIALS SAYING UNIDENTIFIED PROJECTILE LANDED
01:02:42UNIDENTIFIED PROJECTILE LANDED IN THE AIRPORT. IN THE AIRPORT. SET A FIRE. SET A FIRE. CRUISE MISSILE WAS INTERCEPTED
01:02:46CRUISE MISSILE WAS INTERCEPTED IN THE VICINITY OF THE AIRPORT.
01:02:48IN THE VICINITY OF THE AIRPORT. WE HEARD TODAY AS WELL FROM
01:02:51WE HEARD TODAY AS WELL FROM CANADA'S AMBASSADOR TO SAUDI CANADA'S AMBASSADOR TO SAUDI ARABIA.
01:02:54ARABIA. JUST REMINDING CANADIANS THERE
01:02:56JUST REMINDING CANADIANS THERE THAT THE EMBASSY STILL OPEN.
01:03:04THAT THE EMBASSY STILL OPEN. HERE'S SOME OF WHAT THE
01:03:06HERE'S SOME OF WHAT THE AMBASSADOR HAD TO SAY.
01:03:10AMBASSADOR HAD TO SAY. >> ADVISE AGAINST ANY TRAVEL TO
01:03:11>> ADVISE AGAINST ANY TRAVEL TO AND FROM THE AIRPORT IN RIYADH.
01:03:14AND FROM THE AIRPORT IN RIYADH. THIS IS IN ADDITION TO OUR THIS IS IN ADDITION TO OUR EARLIER ADVICE TO AVOID TRAVEL
01:03:17EARLIER ADVICE TO AVOID TRAVEL TO THE PROVINCES IN THE SAUDI
01:03:24TO THE PROVINCES IN THE SAUDI COUNTRY. COUNTRY. WITH REGARDS TO OTHER AIRPORTS
01:03:28WITH REGARDS TO OTHER AIRPORTS IN SAUDI ARABIA, WE ADVISE IN SAUDI ARABIA, WE ADVISE CANADIANS TO ONLY UNDERTAKE
01:03:31CANADIANS TO ONLY UNDERTAKE ESSENTIAL TRAVEL AND THAT
01:03:32ESSENTIAL TRAVEL AND THAT INCLUDES THE AIRPORTS.
01:03:39INCLUDES THE AIRPORTS. >> Reporter: THAT WAS CANADA'S
01:03:42>> Reporter: THAT WAS CANADA'S AMBASSADOR TO SAUDI ARABIA. AMBASSADOR TO SAUDI ARABIA. THERE'S BEEN A COURSE OF
01:03:46THERE'S BEEN A COURSE OF CONDEMNATION AGAINST THIS CONDEMNATION AGAINST THIS ATTACK. ATTACK. WE HEARD FROM PRIME MINISTER
01:03:49WE HEARD FROM PRIME MINISTER MARK CARNEY. MARK CARNEY. HE POSTED A MESSAGE ON SOCIAL HE POSTED A MESSAGE ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
01:03:52MEDIA. HE SAYS, THERE CAN BE NO HE SAYS, THERE CAN BE NO JUSTIFICATION FOR ATTACKS ON
01:03:56JUSTIFICATION FOR ATTACKS ON CIVILIAN INFRASTRUCTURE.
01:03:57CIVILIAN INFRASTRUCTURE. NO POLITICAL OR MILITARY
01:04:02NO POLITICAL OR MILITARY OBJECTIVE JUSTIFY THE TARGETING OBJECTIVE JUSTIFY THE TARGETING OF INNOCENT PEOPLE.
01:04:05OF INNOCENT PEOPLE. CANADA CONDEMNS THESE RECKLESS CANADA CONDEMNS THESE RECKLESS ACTS OF VIOLENCE IN THE
01:04:08ACTS OF VIOLENCE IN THE STRONGEST POSSIBLE TERMS. STRONGEST POSSIBLE TERMS. WE HEARD FROM THE FOREIGN
01:04:12WE HEARD FROM THE FOREIGN MINISTER, ANITA ANAND.
01:04:14MINISTER, ANITA ANAND. SHE CALLED IT ABHORRENT.
01:04:18SHE CALLED IT ABHORRENT. WE DID SEE THE AUDI HEALTH WE DID SEE THE AUDI HEALTH MINISTER OUT MEETING WITH THE
01:04:22MINISTER OUT MEETING WITH THE INJURED FROM THAT ATTACK. INJURED FROM THAT ATTACK. SAUDI ARABIA CALLS THIS A WAR
01:04:25SAUDI ARABIA CALLS THIS A WAR CRIME.
01:04:27CRIME. THAT SAID, HOUTHIS-BACKED MEDIA
01:04:30THAT SAID, HOUTHIS-BACKED MEDIA IN YEMEN ARE REPORTING AN ATTACK
01:04:32IN YEMEN ARE REPORTING AN ATTACK ON THE AIRPORT IN THE YEMENI
01:04:36ON THE AIRPORT IN THE YEMENI CAPITAL. CAPITAL. WE HEARD IN COMMENT FROM THE
01:04:39WE HEARD IN COMMENT FROM THE SAUDIS TO CONFIRM THAT.
01:04:41SAUDIS TO CONFIRM THAT. >> Natasha: TOM, THE STORY IS >> Natasha: TOM, THE STORY IS SO MULTI-LAYERED.
01:04:45SO MULTI-LAYERED. IF YOU PEEL BACK THE LAYER, IF YOU PEEL BACK THE LAYER, LET'S TALK ABOUT YEMEN WHERE YOU
01:04:48LET'S TALK ABOUT YEMEN WHERE YOU GOT THE YEMENI GOVERNMENT GOT THE YEMENI GOVERNMENT FIGHTING AGAINST THE HOUTHIS.
01:04:52FIGHTING AGAINST THE HOUTHIS. THE HOUTHIS ARE BACKED BY IRAN. THE HOUTHIS ARE BACKED BY IRAN. LONG STANDING OPPONENT OF SAUDI LONG STANDING OPPONENT OF SAUDI ARABIA.
01:04:56ARABIA. NOW THE HOUTHIS REPORTEDLY NOW THE HOUTHIS REPORTEDLY CARRYING OUT SERIES OF ATTACKS,
01:05:00CARRYING OUT SERIES OF ATTACKS, POTENTIALLY EVEN TODAY'S ATTACK POTENTIALLY EVEN TODAY'S ATTACK ON THE SAUDI AIRPORTS.
01:05:02ON THE SAUDI AIRPORTS. YOU GOT THE ONGOING CONFLICT YOU GOT THE ONGOING CONFLICT WITH IRAN AND THE UNITED STATES.
01:05:06WITH IRAN AND THE UNITED STATES. NOW, PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP NOW, PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP SAYING, HE'S THINKING ABOUT
01:05:09SAYING, HE'S THINKING ABOUT BACKING SAUDI IN ITS ONGOING
01:05:12BACKING SAUDI IN ITS ONGOING WARFARE AGAINST THE HOUTHIS.
01:05:13WARFARE AGAINST THE HOUTHIS. PUT THIS ALL IN CONTEXT FOR US.
01:05:17PUT THIS ALL IN CONTEXT FOR US. >> Reporter: YES, IT'S A BIT >> Reporter: YES, IT'S A BIT OF A MESS. OF A MESS. IT'S BEEN LIKE THIS FOR WHILE.
01:05:20IT'S BEEN LIKE THIS FOR WHILE. SOME WAYS, THIS IS AN EXTENSION
01:05:23SOME WAYS, THIS IS AN EXTENSION OF THE U.S. AND ISRAEL'S WAR ON
01:05:31OF THE U.S. AND ISRAEL'S WAR ON IRAN. IRAN. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN
01:05:34THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN GOING TON FOR A LONG TIME. GOING TON FOR A LONG TIME. SAUDI ARABIA HAS BACKED YEMEN'S
01:05:38SAUDI ARABIA HAS BACKED YEMEN'S INTERNATIONALLY RECOGNISED INTERNATIONALLY RECOGNISED GOVERNMENT AGAINST THE HOUTHIS
01:05:41GOVERNMENT AGAINST THE HOUTHIS GOING BACK TO 2015. GOING BACK TO 2015. THERE WAS ASTER'S FIRE IN --
01:05:45THERE WAS ASTER'S FIRE IN -- THERE WAS A CEASEFIRE IN PLACE. THERE WAS A CEASEFIRE IN PLACE. WE'VE SEEN THE GOVERNMENT FORCES
01:05:48WE'VE SEEN THE GOVERNMENT FORCES BACKED BY THE SAUDI AIR FORCE,
01:05:52BACKED BY THE SAUDI AIR FORCE, BATTLING WITH THE HOUTHIS. BATTLING WITH THE HOUTHIS. TRYING TO REGAIN CONTROL OVER
01:05:55TRYING TO REGAIN CONTROL OVER MASSIVE ATTRACTIVE LAND ALONG MASSIVE ATTRACTIVE LAND ALONG THE RED SEA.
01:05:59THE RED SEA. CONTROL OF A STRAIT THAT LEADS
01:06:00CONTROL OF A STRAIT THAT LEADS TO THE ARABIAN SEA.
01:06:03TO THE ARABIAN SEA. THAT LATEST ATTACKS ARE REALLY
01:06:05THAT LATEST ATTACKS ARE REALLY PART OF THAT LARGER WAR THAT'S
01:06:08PART OF THAT LARGER WAR THAT'S RESULT OF THE WAR IN IRAN BUT
01:06:11RESULT OF THE WAR IN IRAN BUT REALLY ALSO JUST PART OF A
01:06:13REALLY ALSO JUST PART OF A BATTLE THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR
01:06:19NETWORK. U.S. PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP SAYS
01:06:21U.S. PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP SAYS THAT UKRAINE AND RUSSIA HAVE
01:06:23THAT UKRAINE AND RUSSIA HAVE AGREED TO WHAT HE DESCRIBES AS AGREED TO WHAT HE DESCRIBES AS AN ENERGY CEASEFIRE.
01:06:27AN ENERGY CEASEFIRE. HE MADE THESE COMMENTS A FEW HE MADE THESE COMMENTS A FEW MOMENTS AGO ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
01:06:30MOMENTS AGO ON SOCIAL MEDIA. SAYING THE CEASEFIRE WOULD TAKE
01:06:31SAYING THE CEASEFIRE WOULD TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATE.
01:06:34EFFECT IMMEDIATE. UKRAINE'S PRESIDENT SAID THE UKRAINE'S PRESIDENT SAID THE ANNOUNCEMENT WAS NEWS TO HIM.
01:06:37ANNOUNCEMENT WAS NEWS TO HIM. THERE'S NO WORD FROM MOSCOW. THERE'S NO WORD FROM MOSCOW. THIS COMES AMID TRUMP'S ONGOING
01:06:41THIS COMES AMID TRUMP'S ONGOING CALLS FOR A NEW LEADER TO TAKE CALLS FOR A NEW LEADER TO TAKE CONTROL IN UKRAINE.
01:06:44CONTROL IN UKRAINE. HE'S BLAMING PRESIDENT VOLODYMYR HE'S BLAMING PRESIDENT VOLODYMYR ZELENSKY FOR FAILING TO MAKE A
01:06:47ZELENSKY FOR FAILING TO MAKE A DEAL TO END THE WAR WITH RUSSIA. DEAL TO END THE WAR WITH RUSSIA. ZELENSKYY RESPONDED YESTERDAY BY
01:06:51ZELENSKYY RESPONDED YESTERDAY BY SAYING HE WOULD ORGANIZE
01:06:54SAYING HE WOULD ORGANIZE ELECTIONS IF RUSSIA AGREES TO
01:06:58ELECTIONS IF RUSSIA AGREES TO 60-DAY CEASEFIRE.
01:07:0060-DAY CEASEFIRE. LET'S TURN TO JOURNALIST WILLIAM
01:07:06LET'S TURN TO JOURNALIST WILLIAM DENSELOW WHO FOLLOW THE STORY
01:07:07DENSELOW WHO FOLLOW THE STORY FROM RUSSIA.
01:07:10FROM RUSSIA. >> Reporter: AS YOU RIGHTLY
01:07:14>> Reporter: AS YOU RIGHTLY MENTIONED, BEING A FLURRY OF
01:07:21MENTIONED, BEING A FLURRY OF DIPLOMATIC ACTIVITY WITH
01:07:27DIPLOMATIC ACTIVITY WITH PRESIDENT ZELENSKY INCLUDING THE PRESIDENT ZELENSKY INCLUDING THE PRESIDENT.
01:07:29PRESIDENT. IN THE SOCIAL MEDIA POST,
01:07:32IN THE SOCIAL MEDIA POST, HEARING FROM PRESIDENT ZELENSKY HEARING FROM PRESIDENT ZELENSKY HE SAYS HE'S SUPPORTIVE OF
01:07:36HE SAYS HE'S SUPPORTIVE OF CEASEFIRE. CEASEFIRE. STILL AWAITING DETAILS WHAT
01:07:39STILL AWAITING DETAILS WHAT EXACTLY WASHINGTON IS PROPOSING.
01:07:42EXACTLY WASHINGTON IS PROPOSING. SIGNIFICANTLY, FOR KYIV
01:07:43SIGNIFICANTLY, FOR KYIV IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT AS WELL
01:07:47AS THE STRIKE ON RUSSIAN ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE, HUGE CONCERNS IN INFRASTRUCTURE, HUGE CONCERNS IN UKRAINE.
01:07:50UKRAINE. CONSIDER THEIR LACK OF AIR CONSIDER THEIR LACK OF AIR DEFENCES AND WITH WINTER COMING
01:07:54DEFENCES AND WITH WINTER COMING THE HUGE RAMIFICATIONS.
01:07:55THE HUGE RAMIFICATIONS. THIS COULD BE VERY WELL COMMUTE THIS COULD BE VERY WELL COMMUTE ACROSS UKRAINE.
01:07:59ACROSS UKRAINE. WE HAVE HEARD DIRECTLY FROM
01:08:04WE HAVE HEARD DIRECTLY FROM PRESIDENT ZELENSKY SPEAKING PRESIDENT ZELENSKY SPEAKING BEFORE THE ANNOUNCEMENT WHERE HE
01:08:07BEFORE THE ANNOUNCEMENT WHERE HE WAS ON BOARD WITH SUCH CEASEFIRE WAS ON BOARD WITH SUCH CEASEFIRE PROPOSALS.
01:08:10PROPOSALS. LET'S HAVE A LISTEN.
01:08:12LET'S HAVE A LISTEN. >> WE ARE READY FOR CEASEFIRE.
01:08:14>> WE ARE READY FOR CEASEFIRE. WE ARE READY TO BEGIN FROM ANY
01:08:17WE ARE READY TO BEGIN FROM ANY KIND OF STEPS OF THIS KIND OF STEPS OF THIS ESCALATION.
01:08:20ESCALATION. WE ARE READY FOR ENERGY WE ARE READY FOR ENERGY CEASEFIRE.
01:08:22CEASEFIRE. NOT TO ATTACK ENERGY.
01:08:26NOT TO ATTACK ENERGY. IF RUSSIANS WANT US NOT ATTACK
01:08:30IF RUSSIANS WANT US NOT ATTACK THEIR DIESEL AND REFINERY.
01:08:35THEIR DIESEL AND REFINERY. WE ARE ASKING PRESIDENT TRUMP
01:08:36WE ARE ASKING PRESIDENT TRUMP GIVE THE SIGNAL.
01:08:39GIVE THE SIGNAL. NOT ATTACK ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE NOT ATTACK ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE OF UKRAINE.
01:08:42OF UKRAINE. >> Reporter: THIS COMES AFTER >> Reporter: THIS COMES AFTER PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID THAT HE
01:08:45PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID THAT HE WANTED TO SEE FRESH ELECTIONS IN
01:08:50WANTED TO SEE FRESH ELECTIONS IN UKRAINE. UKRAINE. PRESIDENT ZELENSKY SAYING HE IS PRESIDENT ZELENSKY SAYING HE IS ESSENTIALLY ON BOARD WITH THAT
01:08:54ESSENTIALLY ON BOARD WITH THAT IF HE CAN GET -- IF PRESIDENT IF HE CAN GET -- IF PRESIDENT TRUMP CAN GET PRESIDENT PUTIN ON
01:08:57TRUMP CAN GET PRESIDENT PUTIN ON BOARD WITH A FULL 60-DAY BOARD WITH A FULL 60-DAY COMPREHENSIVE CEASEFIRE.
01:09:01COMPREHENSIVE CEASEFIRE. >> Natasha: HOW ARE TODAY'S >> Natasha: HOW ARE TODAY'S DEVELOPMENTS EXPECTED TO IMPACT
01:09:04DEVELOPMENTS EXPECTED TO IMPACT EUROPE'S POSITIONING?
01:09:07EUROPE'S POSITIONING? >> Reporter: WE'VE HEARD FROM
01:09:12>> Reporter: WE'VE HEARD FROM URSULA VON DER LEYEN AFTER HER URSULA VON DER LEYEN AFTER HER CALL WITH PRESIDENT ZELENSKY.
01:09:16CALL WITH PRESIDENT ZELENSKY. SHE SAID SHE'S SUPPORTIVE OF SHE SAID SHE'S SUPPORTIVE OF THIS ENERGY CEASEFIRE.
01:09:19THIS ENERGY CEASEFIRE. SHE SAYS THIS IS GOOD NEWS FOR SHE SAYS THIS IS GOOD NEWS FOR ENERGY PRICES FOR ENERGY ENERGY PRICES FOR ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE IN UKRAINE AS
01:09:23INFRASTRUCTURE IN UKRAINE AS WELL. WELL. GOING TOWARDS THIS POTENTIALLY
01:09:26GOING TOWARDS THIS POTENTIALLY DEVASTATING WINTER PERIOD.
01:09:28DEVASTATING WINTER PERIOD. SHE SAYS EUROPE WILL CONTINUE TO SHE SAYS EUROPE WILL CONTINUE TO ACT.
01:09:32ACT. SHE SAYS WHEN EUROPEAN LEADERS SHE SAYS WHEN EUROPEAN LEADERS ARE GATHERED AT THE END OF THIS
01:09:35ARE GATHERED AT THE END OF THIS WEEK, SHE SAYS WILL BE FURTHER
01:09:39WEEK, SHE SAYS WILL BE FURTHER MOVEMENTS ESPECIALLY WHEN IT MOVEMENTS ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COME TO PROVIDING DRONES AND
01:09:42COME TO PROVIDING DRONES AND MISSILES FOR UKRAINE.
01:09:44MISSILES FOR UKRAINE. WE HEARD FROM KAJAS KALLAS
01:09:50WE HEARD FROM KAJAS KALLAS SCATHING OF THAT ENERGY DEAL SCATHING OF THAT ENERGY DEAL WITH RUSSIA TO ALLOW IMPORTS OF
01:09:54WITH RUSSIA TO ALLOW IMPORTS OF RUSSIAN DIESEL TO THE UNITED RUSSIAN DIESEL TO THE UNITED STATES. STATES. SHE SAID, ESSENTIALLY, THAT WILL
01:09:58SHE SAID, ESSENTIALLY, THAT WILL HELP FUND PUTIN'S WAR MACHINE.
01:10:00HELP FUND PUTIN'S WAR MACHINE. SHE SAYS THAT THE E.U. WILL
01:10:04SHE SAYS THAT THE E.U. WILL REMAIN STEADFAST IN THEIR REMAIN STEADFAST IN THEIR SANCTIONS OF THE E.U.
01:10:07SANCTIONS OF THE E.U. SHE SAYS THAT THE MOVEMENT FROM SHE SAYS THAT THE MOVEMENT FROM FOREIGN MINISTERS ON MONDAY WHAT
01:10:11FOREIGN MINISTERS ON MONDAY WHAT SHE CALLS THE BIGGEST SANCTION
01:10:14SHE CALLS THE BIGGEST SANCTION PACKAGE ON RUSSIA THAT WE'VE
01:10:19PRIME MINISTER MARK CARNEY SPOKE WITH UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT
01:10:22WITH UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT VOLODYMYR ZELENSKY TODAY. VOLODYMYR ZELENSKY TODAY. ACCORDING TO AN OFFICIAL READOUT
01:10:25ACCORDING TO AN OFFICIAL READOUT OF THAT CONVERSATION, THE TWO
01:10:27OF THAT CONVERSATION, THE TWO LEADERS UNDERSCORED THE URGENT LEADERS UNDERSCORED THE URGENT NEED FOR RUSSIA TO IMMEDIATELY
01:10:31NEED FOR RUSSIA TO IMMEDIATELY CEASE ITS STRIKES ON UKRAINE'S CEASE ITS STRIKES ON UKRAINE'S ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE.
01:10:34ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE. THEY DISCUSSED THEIR OPPOSITION THEY DISCUSSED THEIR OPPOSITION TO A RECENT DEAL BETWEEN
01:10:37TO A RECENT DEAL BETWEEN WASHINGTON AND MOSCOW TO SUPPLY WASHINGTON AND MOSCOW TO SUPPLY MILLIONS OF TONS OF DIESEL TO
01:10:41MILLIONS OF TONS OF DIESEL TO THE UNITED STATES.
01:12:54>> THESE OBLIGATIONS ARE BINDING.
01:12:57BINDING. AND FAILING TO FOLLOW THEIR
01:13:02AND FAILING TO FOLLOW THEIR COMMITMENTS WILL RESULT BUY COMMITMENTS WILL RESULT BUY ACTIONS BY THE GOVERNMENT.
01:13:06ACTIONS BY THE GOVERNMENT. AND SO BASICALLY MY POINT IS AND SO BASICALLY MY POINT IS THEY NEED TO COMPLY.
01:13:11THEY NEED TO COMPLY. IF NOT, WE'LL USE THE FULL FORCE
01:13:12IF NOT, WE'LL USE THE FULL FORCE OF THE LAW.
01:13:15OF THE LAW. >> Rosemary: INDUSTRY MINISTER >> Rosemary: INDUSTRY MINISTER MELANIE JOLY ON THURSDAY WARNING
01:13:18MELANIE JOLY ON THURSDAY WARNING OF LEGAL ACTION AGAINST STELCO. OF LEGAL ACTION AGAINST STELCO. OTTAWA GAVE THE STEELMAKER FIVE
01:13:22OTTAWA GAVE THE STEELMAKER FIVE DAYS TO RESPOND AFTER IT PLANS
01:13:24DAYS TO RESPOND AFTER IT PLANS TO LAY OFF UP TO 500 WORKERS.
01:13:26TO LAY OFF UP TO 500 WORKERS. CBC NEWS OBTAINED A COPY OF THE CBC NEWS OBTAINED A COPY OF THE RESPONSE OVER THE WEEKEND.
01:13:30RESPONSE OVER THE WEEKEND. IT SAYS IT'S NOT VIOLATING ITS IT SAYS IT'S NOT VIOLATING ITS EMPLOYMENT COMMITMENTS.
01:13:33EMPLOYMENT COMMITMENTS. CLEVELAND-CLIFFS IS THE U.S. CLEVELAND-CLIFFS IS THE U.S. OWNER OF STELCO, THE C.E.O.
01:13:36OWNER OF STELCO, THE C.E.O. JOINS ME NOW LIVE THIS MORNING. JOINS ME NOW LIVE THIS MORNING. LOURENCO GONCALVES, THANK YOU
01:13:39LOURENCO GONCALVES, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. FOR BEING HERE. >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME, >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME, ROSEMARY.
01:13:43ROSEMARY. >> Rosemary: SO IN RESPONSE TO
01:13:44>> Rosemary: SO IN RESPONSE TO THE LETTER THAT STELCO SENT BACK
01:13:47TO THE GOVERNMENT OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF DAYS, MINISTER JOLY'S COUPLE OF DAYS, MINISTER JOLY'S OFFICE SAYS THE GOVERNMENT
01:13:51OFFICE SAYS THE GOVERNMENT EXPECTS STELCO TO MEET ITS
01:13:52EXPECTS STELCO TO MEET ITS LEGALLY BINDING COMMITMENTS TO LEGALLY BINDING COMMITMENTS TO EMPLOYEES.
01:13:56EMPLOYEES. AND THEIR LEGAL TEAM, THE AND THEIR LEGAL TEAM, THE GOVERNMENT'S LEGAL TEAM IS GOING
01:13:59GOVERNMENT'S LEGAL TEAM IS GOING TO REVIEW YOUR LETTER. TO REVIEW YOUR LETTER. ALL OPTIONS ARE ON THE TABLE.
01:14:02ALL OPTIONS ARE ON THE TABLE. ARE YOU PREPARED TO FIGHT THIS
01:14:04ARE YOU PREPARED TO FIGHT THIS IN COURT, MR. GONCALVES? IN COURT, MR. GONCALVES? >> I AM.
01:14:08>> I AM. AND JUST TO CLARIFY A FEW AND JUST TO CLARIFY A FEW POINTS.
01:14:10POINTS. WE HAVE BEEN IN DIRECT
01:14:13WE HAVE BEEN IN DIRECT CONVERSATIONS WITH THE MINISTRY
01:14:16CONVERSATIONS WITH THE MINISTRY OF INNOVATION AND SCIENCE AND
01:14:18OF INNOVATION AND SCIENCE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN CANADA. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN CANADA. >> Rosemary: YEAH.
01:14:21>> Rosemary: YEAH. >> AND IT'S NOT JUST ONE LETTER. >> AND IT'S NOT JUST ONE LETTER. IT'S TWO LETTERS THAT WE
01:14:24IT'S TWO LETTERS THAT WE ACTUALLY SENT ON FRIDAY.
01:14:28ACTUALLY SENT ON FRIDAY. ONE TO MINISTER JOLY TO REPLY TO
01:14:31ONE TO MINISTER JOLY TO REPLY TO HER PUBLIC LETTER, BECAUSE SHE HER PUBLIC LETTER, BECAUSE SHE SENT A PUBLIC LETTER TO ME.
01:14:35SENT A PUBLIC LETTER TO ME. I REPLIED WITH A PUBLIC LETTER I REPLIED WITH A PUBLIC LETTER AS WELL.
01:14:37AS WELL. AND THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT
01:14:41AND THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT GOES STRAIGHT TO THE DEPUTY
01:14:44GOES STRAIGHT TO THE DEPUTY MINISTER. MINISTER. >> Rosemary: DEPUTY MINISTER. >> Rosemary: DEPUTY MINISTER. YES.
01:14:47YES. >> AND THAT OTHER ONE IS
01:14:50>> AND THAT OTHER ONE IS PRIVILEGED UNDER SECTION 36 OF
01:14:52PRIVILEGED UNDER SECTION 36 OF THE INVESTMENT CANADA ACT.
01:14:55THE INVESTMENT CANADA ACT. SO -- BUT, URN, WE DIDN'T NEED
01:14:59SO -- BUT, URN, WE DIDN'T NEED THE FIVE DAYS.
01:15:02THE FIVE DAYS. THIS IS SO ABSURD. THIS IS SO ABSURD. IT'S EASY TO COUNTER.
01:15:06IT'S EASY TO COUNTER. >> Rosemary: LET ME GO TO THE >> Rosemary: LET ME GO TO THE ISSUE OF JOBS, WHICH IS CENTRAL ISSUE OF JOBS, WHICH IS CENTRAL TO THIS OBVIOUSLY.
01:15:10TO THIS OBVIOUSLY. IT'S CANADIAN THANKSGIVING. IT'S CANADIAN THANKSGIVING. SOME OF THESE WORKERS ARE BEING
01:15:13SOME OF THESE WORKERS ARE BEING LAID OFF TODAY. LAID OFF TODAY. AND STELCO IS SAYING IT'S
01:15:17AND STELCO IS SAYING IT'S COMPLIANT WITH ITS EMPLOYMENT COMPLIANT WITH ITS EMPLOYMENT COMMITMENTS AND THE UNDERTAKINGS
01:15:20COMMITMENTS AND THE UNDERTAKINGS DO NOT STIPULATE A COMMITMENT TO DO NOT STIPULATE A COMMITMENT TO AVOID LAYOFFS.
01:15:24AVOID LAYOFFS. THAT WAS IN THE UNDERTAKING AN THAT WAS IN THE UNDERTAKING AN AGREEMENT TO EMPLOY THE SAME
01:15:27AGREEMENT TO EMPLOY THE SAME NUMBER OF UNIONIZED AND NUMBER OF UNIONIZED AND NONUNIONIZED EMPLOYEES WHEN THIS
01:15:31NONUNIONIZED EMPLOYEES WHEN THIS HAPPENED. HAPPENED. SO HOW IS THAT DIFFERENT? SO HOW IS THAT DIFFERENT? WHY ARE YOU NOW SAYING THAT YOU
01:15:35WHY ARE YOU NOW SAYING THAT YOU ARE ALLOWED TO DO SOMETHING THAT ARE ALLOWED TO DO SOMETHING THAT THE UNDERTAKING SAYS YOU SHOULD THE UNDERTAKING SAYS YOU SHOULD NOT BE DOING?
01:15:39NOT BE DOING? >> YEAH.
01:15:41>> YEAH. DIFFERENT THAN WHAT HAPPENED AT
01:15:44DIFFERENT THAN WHAT HAPPENED AT ALGOMA, IN WHICH THE REDUCTION
01:15:46ALGOMA, IN WHICH THE REDUCTION IN JOBS WAS PERMANENT.
01:15:50IN JOBS WAS PERMANENT. AND THE SUBSIDIZED BY THE
01:15:52AND THE SUBSIDIZED BY THE CANADIAN TAXPAYER.
01:15:54CANADIAN TAXPAYER. REMEMBER ALGONA GOT $500 MILLION
01:15:58REMEMBER ALGONA GOT $500 MILLION FROM THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT. FROM THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT. AND THEN SHUT DOWN THE -- THEY
01:16:02AND THEN SHUT DOWN THE -- THEY LAID OFF PERMANENTLY MORE THAN LAID OFF PERMANENTLY MORE THAN 1,000 WORKERS.
01:16:061,000 WORKERS. IN OUR CASE, THE LAYOFFS ARE IN OUR CASE, THE LAYOFFS ARE ONE, TEMPORARY.
01:16:10ONE, TEMPORARY. TWO, THEY WILL BE REVERSED.
01:16:12TWO, THEY WILL BE REVERSED. THREE, I DID NOT ACCEPT CANADIAN
01:16:15THREE, I DID NOT ACCEPT CANADIAN TAXPAYER MONEY TO DO THAT, TAXPAYER MONEY TO DO THAT, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE COMPLETE
01:16:19BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE COMPLETE LI NAKED COMBAT. LI NAKED COMBAT. I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT.
01:16:23I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT. I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. BY THE WAY, NO REASON TO BELIEVE
01:16:25BY THE WAY, NO REASON TO BELIEVE THAT THERE'S ANY OTHER
01:16:28THAT THERE'S ANY OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES BEYOND WHAT'S
01:16:33CIRCUMSTANCES BEYOND WHAT'S OBVIOUS. OBVIOUS. BY THE WAY, I NEVER MET MINISTER BY THE WAY, I NEVER MET MINISTER LEBLANC.
01:16:37LEBLANC. HE SOUNDS LIKE A LEVEL-LED THE
01:16:40HE SOUNDS LIKE A LEVEL-LED THE PERSON. PERSON. AND AND HIS INTERVIEW WITH YOU A
01:16:43AND AND HIS INTERVIEW WITH YOU A FEW MINUTES AGO WAS SPOT ON. FEW MINUTES AGO WAS SPOT ON. >> Rosemary: TO GO BACK TO THE
01:16:47>> Rosemary: TO GO BACK TO THE ISSUE OF THE JOBS. ISSUE OF THE JOBS. WHEN YOU TOOK OVER THE COMPANY, WHEN YOU TOOK OVER THE COMPANY, I REMEMBER BECAUSE WE SPOKE AT
01:16:51I REMEMBER BECAUSE WE SPOKE AT THE TIME. THE TIME. ONE OF YOUR COMMITMENTS UNDER
01:16:54ONE OF YOUR COMMITMENTS UNDER THE INVESTMENT CANADA ACT WAS THE INVESTMENT CANADA ACT WAS YOU HAD TO KEEP THE LEVEL OF
01:16:57YOU HAD TO KEEP THE LEVEL OF EMPLOYEES THE SAME.
01:17:00EMPLOYEES THE SAME. .
01:17:05. HOW IS IT ACCEPTABLE TO BE HOW IS IT ACCEPTABLE TO BE LAYING OFF PEOPLE?
01:17:08LAYING OFF PEOPLE? >> THE LAST TIME WE REPORTED TO >> THE LAST TIME WE REPORTED TO THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT IN
01:17:11THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT IN COMPLIANCE.
01:17:13COMPLIANCE. I EXPECTED NEXT TIME I'LL BE IN
01:17:17I EXPECTED NEXT TIME I'LL BE IN COMPLIANCE AGAIN. COMPLIANCE AGAIN. THERE'S NO PROVISION IN THE
01:17:19THERE'S NO PROVISION IN THE CONTRACT THAT I HAVE TO KEEP CONTRACT THAT I HAVE TO KEEP EMPLOYMENT AT A CERTAIN LEVEL
01:17:23EMPLOYMENT AT A CERTAIN LEVEL EVERY SINGLE DAY OF THE FIVE EVERY SINGLE DAY OF THE FIVE YEARS.
01:17:26YEARS. IF THAT WAS AN IMPOSITION OF THE
01:17:29IF THAT WAS AN IMPOSITION OF THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT, I WOULD NOT
01:17:31CANADIAN GOVERNMENT, I WOULD NOT HAVE ACCEPTED.
01:17:34HAVE ACCEPTED. UNDERTAKER -- DECREES ARE NOT UNDERTAKER -- DECREES ARE NOT IMPOSED TO THE BUYER.
01:17:37IMPOSED TO THE BUYER. THIS IS A CONTRACT.
01:17:38THIS IS A CONTRACT. I ONLY INVESTED $3.4 BILLION
01:17:42I ONLY INVESTED $3.4 BILLION BECAUSE -- TO BUY STELCO BECAUSE
01:17:45BECAUSE -- TO BUY STELCO BECAUSE I BELIEVE CANADA IS A COUNTRY OF
01:17:48I BELIEVE CANADA IS A COUNTRY OF LOSS. LOSS. AND THERE'S NO PROVISION IN THE
01:17:51AND THERE'S NO PROVISION IN THE CONTRACT THAT FORCED ME TO HAVE CONTRACT THAT FORCED ME TO HAVE THIS SAME EMPLOYMENT LEVEL EVERY
01:17:55THIS SAME EMPLOYMENT LEVEL EVERY SINGLE DAY OF THE FIVE YEARS.
01:17:58SINGLE DAY OF THE FIVE YEARS. >> Rosemary: OKAY.
01:18:00>> Rosemary: OKAY. >> MINISTER JOLY IS ELECTED NOT
01:18:03>> MINISTER JOLY IS ELECTED NOT TO ACCEPT. TO ACCEPT. >> Rosemary: LET ME ASK YOU
01:18:05>> Rosemary: LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT TARIFFS. ABOUT TARIFFS. OBVIOUSLY THIS IS -- THIS IS
01:18:08OBVIOUSLY THIS IS -- THIS IS BECAUSE OF THE TARIFFS. BECAUSE OF THE TARIFFS. ARE YOU IN FAVOUR OF TARIFFS
01:18:12ARE YOU IN FAVOUR OF TARIFFS FROM THE U.S. ADMINISTRATION,
01:18:14FROM THE U.S. ADMINISTRATION, THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION AGAINST THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION AGAINST CANADA?
01:18:18CANADA? >> I AM IN FAVOUR OF TARIFFS
01:18:20>> I AM IN FAVOUR OF TARIFFS AGAINST ALL THE COUNTRIES IN THE
01:18:22AGAINST ALL THE COUNTRIES IN THE ENTIRE WORLD THAT DUMP STEEL
01:18:25ENTIRE WORLD THAT DUMP STEEL INTO THE UNITED STATES.
01:18:27INTO THE UNITED STATES. BECAUSE PRESIDENT TRUMP
01:18:30BECAUSE PRESIDENT TRUMP IMPLEMENTED IN THE UNITED STATES IMPLEMENTED IN THE UNITED STATES -- SECTION 232 IS TARIFFS.
01:18:34-- SECTION 232 IS TARIFFS. BASED ON NATIONAL SECURITY. BASED ON NATIONAL SECURITY. WE FINALLY HAVE THE AMERICAN
01:18:38WE FINALLY HAVE THE AMERICAN STEEL INDUSTRY BACK.
01:18:39STEEL INDUSTRY BACK. WE ARE NOW THE THIRD LARGEST
01:18:43WE ARE NOW THE THIRD LARGEST PRODUCING STEEL COUNTRY IN THE PRODUCING STEEL COUNTRY IN THE WORLD. WORLD. AND WE'RE FOURTH FOR A LONG,
01:18:47AND WE'RE FOURTH FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. LONG TIME. SO THINGS ARE GETTING MUCH SO THINGS ARE GETTING MUCH BETTER IN THE UNITED STATES.
01:18:51BETTER IN THE UNITED STATES. SO I'M IN FAVOUR OF SECTION 232 SO I'M IN FAVOUR OF SECTION 232 TARIFFS.
01:18:54TARIFFS. NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
01:18:55NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. BUT I'M WITH THE SAME POSITION
01:18:59BUT I'M WITH THE SAME POSITION OF -- MINISTER DOMINIC LEBLANC.
01:19:02OF -- MINISTER DOMINIC LEBLANC. WE NEED TO NEGOTIATE A SEPARATE WE NEED TO NEGOTIATE A SEPARATE SITUATION BETWEEN THE UNITED
01:19:05SITUATION BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA. STATES AND CANADA. THAT HAS BEEN MY POSITION ALL THAT HAS BEEN MY POSITION ALL ALONG.
01:19:09ALONG. AND I AM THE BIGGEST APPROPRIATE
01:19:12AND I AM THE BIGGEST APPROPRIATE OF NORTH AMERICA IN BOTH SIDES OF NORTH AMERICA IN BOTH SIDES OF THE BORDER. OF THE BORDER. IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT
01:19:16IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT FORTRESS, I'LL BE GLAD TO TALK. FORTRESS, I'LL BE GLAD TO TALK. >> Rosemary: WELL, BUT BEING IN
01:19:20>> Rosemary: WELL, BUT BEING IN FAVOUR OF THE TERRORISTS, HAS IT FAVOUR OF THE TERRORISTS, HAS IT NOT LED TO THIS OUTCOME?
01:19:23NOT LED TO THIS OUTCOME? DO YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING HERE?
01:19:26DO YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING HERE? >> ROSEMARY, I'M IN FAVOUR OF
01:19:28>> ROSEMARY, I'M IN FAVOUR OF TARIFFS IN THE UNITED STATES.
01:19:31TARIFFS IN THE UNITED STATES. I'M IN FAVOUR OF TARIFFS AGAINST
01:19:33I'M IN FAVOUR OF TARIFFS AGAINST ALL COUNTRIES THAT DUMP STEEL IN ALL COUNTRIES THAT DUMP STEEL IN THE UNITED STATES.
01:19:37THE UNITED STATES. THE SITUATION BETWEEN CANADA AND THE SITUATION BETWEEN CANADA AND THE UNITED STATES IS STARTING TO
01:19:41THE UNITED STATES IS STARTING TO BE RESOLVED.
01:19:42BE RESOLVED. BECAUSE I STOPPED SELLING.
01:19:47BECAUSE I STOPPED SELLING. FIRST DAY THAT WAS ONLY STELCO, FIRST DAY THAT WAS ONLY STELCO, I STOPPED SELLING AT LOW PRICE
01:19:51I STOPPED SELLING AT LOW PRICE INTO THE UNITED STATES.
01:19:53INTO THE UNITED STATES. SO THAT WOULD HAVE RESULT -- I
01:19:56SO THAT WOULD HAVE RESULT -- I DON'T CONTROL ANYTHING BEYOND
01:19:59DON'T CONTROL ANYTHING BEYOND STELCO. STELCO. >> Rosemary: YEAH.
01:20:01>> Rosemary: YEAH. >> THE FLOW OF ARTIFICIALLY >> THE FLOW OF ARTIFICIALLY CHEAP STEEL INTO THE UNITED
01:20:04CHEAP STEEL INTO THE UNITED STATES FROM CANADA, ONLY THE STATES FROM CANADA, ONLY THE TARIFFS CAN DO THAT.
01:20:08TARIFFS CAN DO THAT. THAT SAID WE HAVE TO ADDRESS
01:20:11THAT SAID WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THIS SPECIFIC SITUATION OF THE THIS SPECIFIC SITUATION OF THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA.
01:20:14UNITED STATES AND CANADA. AND THAT'S WHAT WAS BEING AND THAT'S WHAT WAS BEING NEGOTIATED.
01:20:17NEGOTIATED. AND IT WAS INTERRUPTED IN THE AND IT WAS INTERRUPTED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NEGOTIATIONS.
01:20:20MIDDLE OF THE NEGOTIATIONS. WE WOULD HAVE A MUCH BETTER
01:20:23WE WOULD HAVE A MUCH BETTER SITUATION IF THE PATH THAT WE
01:20:24SITUATION IF THE PATH THAT WE STARTED IN JUNE OF 2025 -- IT
01:20:28STARTED IN JUNE OF 2025 -- IT WAS APPROVED IN DECEMBER OF
01:20:34WAS APPROVED IN DECEMBER OF 2025. 2025. WE WOULD HAVE RESULTED IN A MORE
01:20:38WE WOULD HAVE RESULTED IN A MORE COMPREHENSIVE FORTRESS NORTH COMPREHENSIVE FORTRESS NORTH AMERICA AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE
01:20:41AMERICA AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA. UNITED STATES AND CANADA. >> Rosemary: YES. >> Rosemary: YES. I UNDERSTAND.
01:20:44I UNDERSTAND. YES. YES. SORRY, I'M RUNNING OUT OF TIME, SORRY, I'M RUNNING OUT OF TIME, MR. GONCALVES.
01:20:48MR. GONCALVES. I UNDERSTAND YOU DIDN'T WANT TO I UNDERSTAND YOU DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE TAXPAYER MONEY IN ORDER TO
01:20:51TAKE TAXPAYER MONEY IN ORDER TO HELP THINGS. HELP THINGS. BUT THE GOVERNMENT DID MAKE
01:20:54BUT THE GOVERNMENT DID MAKE VARIOUS OFFERS TO AVOID THIS VARIOUS OFFERS TO AVOID THIS OUTCOME. OUTCOME. WHY DID YOU NOT ACCEPT ANY OF
01:20:58WHY DID YOU NOT ACCEPT ANY OF THEM? THEM? WHY DID YOU NOT TRY TO FIND A
01:21:00WHY DID YOU NOT TRY TO FIND A WAY OUT OF THIS?
01:21:03WAY OUT OF THIS? >> BECAUSE THE PART THAT I HAVE
01:21:05>> BECAUSE THE PART THAT I HAVE TO COMPARE IS ALGOMA.
01:21:09TO COMPARE IS ALGOMA. ALGOMA TOOK MONEY.
01:21:10ALGOMA TOOK MONEY. $500 MILLION FROM THE GOVERNMENT
01:21:14$500 MILLION FROM THE GOVERNMENT TO SHUT DOWN AND LAY OFF
01:21:17TO SHUT DOWN AND LAY OFF PERMANENTLY 1,000 WORKERS. PERMANENTLY 1,000 WORKERS. I DON'T DO THESE THINGS.
01:21:21I DON'T DO THESE THINGS. >> Rosemary: MR. GONCALVES, >> Rosemary: MR. GONCALVES, WOULD YOU CONSIDER -- WOULD YOU
01:21:24WOULD YOU CONSIDER -- WOULD YOU CONSIDER SELLING THE COMPANY?
01:21:25CONSIDER SELLING THE COMPANY? >> FOR A GOOD OFFER, YES.
01:21:28>> FOR A GOOD OFFER, YES. BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THAT BEING IN BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THAT BEING IN CANADA WITH A GREAT WORKFORCE
01:21:32CANADA WITH A GREAT WORKFORCE THAT I HAVE THERE, UNDER THE
01:21:34THAT I HAVE THERE, UNDER THE CURRENT TRADE CIRCUMSTANCES,
01:21:37CURRENT TRADE CIRCUMSTANCES, ABSOLUTELY WE CAN CONTINUE TO BE
01:21:39ABSOLUTELY WE CAN CONTINUE TO BE A GOOD -- A GOOD CITIZEN IN A GOOD -- A GOOD CITIZEN IN CANADA.
01:21:42CANADA. WE'LL CONTINUE TO EMPLOY ALL THE
01:21:45WE'LL CONTINUE TO EMPLOY ALL THE WORKFORCE THAT I HAVE THERE WHEN WORKFORCE THAT I HAVE THERE WHEN WE BOUGHT THE COMPANY.
01:21:48WE BOUGHT THE COMPANY. WE'LL CONTINUE TO BE IN WE'LL CONTINUE TO BE IN COMPLIANCE.
01:21:52COMPLIANCE. LIKE I SAID, IT'S A CONTRACT.
01:21:54LIKE I SAID, IT'S A CONTRACT. >> Rosemary: LET ME END ON THIS, >> Rosemary: LET ME END ON THIS, MR. GONCALVES.
01:21:57MR. GONCALVES. WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO THE WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO THE WORKERS WHO BELIEVED THAT YOU
01:22:00WORKERS WHO BELIEVED THAT YOU HAVE -- YOU'VE LET THEM DOWN AND HAVE -- YOU'VE LET THEM DOWN AND THAT YOU DIDN'T KEEP UP YOUR END
01:22:03THAT YOU DIDN'T KEEP UP YOUR END OF THE DEAL.
01:22:05OF THE DEAL. >> I BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE BEING
01:22:09>> I BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE BEING PLAYED. PLAYED. I BELIEVE THAT HAVING THE PRIME I BELIEVE THAT HAVING THE PRIME MINISTER OF CANADA, A PERSON
01:22:13MINISTER OF CANADA, A PERSON THAT I HAVE NEVER MET, SAY THAT
01:22:14THAT I HAVE NEVER MET, SAY THAT I BETRAYED MY EMPLOYEES, THIS IS
01:22:18I BETRAYED MY EMPLOYEES, THIS IS NOT TRUE.
01:22:19NOT TRUE. THIS WAS PRIME MINISTER CARNEY
01:22:23THIS WAS PRIME MINISTER CARNEY REPEATING WHAT MINISTER JOLY REPEATING WHAT MINISTER JOLY SAID WITHOUT THINKING. SAID WITHOUT THINKING. HE'S A BUSY GUY.
01:22:27HE'S A BUSY GUY. PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT MR. LEBLANC IS DOING.
01:22:30MR. LEBLANC IS DOING. DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO THE DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO THE RHETORIC OF PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST
01:22:34RHETORIC OF PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST PLAYING POLITICS. PLAYING POLITICS. >> Rosemary: OKAY.
01:22:37>> Rosemary: OKAY. >> WE HAVE A MUCH BIGGER TASK AT >> WE HAVE A MUCH BIGGER TASK AT HAND.
01:22:41HAND. HAPPY THANKSGIVING. HAPPY THANKSGIVING. THIS IS THE LAST THANKSGIVING
01:22:44THIS IS THE LAST THANKSGIVING THAT YOU'RE OUT OF A JOB. THAT YOU'RE OUT OF A JOB. YOU'RE GOING TO BE BROUGHT BACK YOU'RE GOING TO BE BROUGHT BACK OPINION.
01:22:47OPINION. >> Rosemary: LOURENCO GONCALVES, >> Rosemary: LOURENCO GONCALVES, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MAKING THE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MAKING THE TIME TODAY. TIME TODAY. WE APPRECIATE IT,
01:24:59What do you want?
01:25:02For me, separation is the only solution.
01:25:05The vote on October 19th means the birth of a lot of hope.
01:25:11This is the time where Albertans get to stand up and
01:25:15say we are united, you can't divide and conquer us.
01:25:17This is the time where we have to stick together. Here in
01:25:21Alberta on October 19th, people will vote whether or not
01:25:24they want to pursue the idea of separating from Canada's big
01:25:28question. Now both sides are all in crisscrossing the
01:25:31province trying to sway the vote their way. Now, of course,
01:25:34there's also pressure from the South as President Donald Trump
01:25:38continues to threaten to make Canada his 51st state.
01:25:41So I've come to Alberta to find out what this vote means for
01:25:45the future of Canada.
01:25:48It's the end of the day in Cold Lake, AB.
01:25:51How you doing?
01:25:52Thomas Lukasik is on his final stop. Hello everybody.
01:25:58Maybe we can gather together. Can we gather together?
01:26:01The people here have been waiting to meet him. Thank you
01:26:04everybody for coming out. I, I really appreciate you on a
01:26:08Sunday evening. That, that is something. But you know
01:26:11what? We've been on the road now for
01:26:13I don't know even how many days. Thomas's mission here is simple.
01:26:17He wants people to know their vote is crucial. Finally,
01:26:20we're realizing that we have to show our pride in Canada and,
01:26:24and we have to all as Canadians pull together in unity.
01:26:28And, and that's right, that's right.
01:26:33The stakes are very high. You know,
01:26:35this isn't fun and games. This is,
01:26:37this is very serious business. And,
01:26:39and there are those that are saying Thomas Alberta will
01:26:42never separate from Canada. This is not realistic. I think
01:26:46it is realistic. There is a pathway and Brexit has shown us
01:26:49what the pathway is. When people feel too confident that
01:26:53they are on the winning side, they tend not to vote. Apathy
01:26:56sets in and that's how the other side wins. This is
01:26:59probably the most important work that we will do as
01:27:03Canadians in our life
01:27:04Times and the vote that we will be participating in will define
01:27:08us. Thank you.
01:27:14Thomas vows to visit every single town in the province
01:27:17before the vote on the 19th. Thank you again,
01:27:19thank you for your leadership, Thank you. And yes, I'm a proud,
01:27:23I'm a proud Canadian. You can't be 1 without the other. But not
01:27:26everybody feels the same way. See the man there by the gazebo?
01:27:31You just put up a sign that supports the idea of looking
01:27:34into separation.
01:27:35Jesse Heinrich tells me he's just not happy with how things
01:27:39are. I'm a hard working Albertan and I want Alberta's
01:27:43money to stay in Alberta and I want Alberta to have more of a
01:27:47voice in Ottawa. And they kept on. They've,
01:27:49they've continually promised that and they've never
01:27:53delivered it. You know, I want to,
01:27:55I want a better future for my newborn and for my family. I'm
01:27:59to the point where separation actually is making more sense
01:28:03than staying. That's the conflict, people who want to leave
01:28:06because they believe that's the way to prosperity and people
01:28:10who think a united Canada is the better choice.
01:28:15It's the next day and Thomas Lukasik is on his way to the
01:28:18town of Vegreville
01:28:21and I think we have enough fuel to get there.
01:28:24After 40, 000 kilometers behind the wheel of this bus,
01:28:28he tells me he's thought a lot about why the upcoming vote
01:28:31matters so much to him. I immigrated to Canada when I was
01:28:3512 years old
01:28:37and I left Poland at a time where I would not be able to
01:28:41return again to Poland because it was a communist country at
01:28:45that time and we came here as refugees. So every day I'm very
01:28:49thankful to Canadians, to Canada,
01:28:52for the opportunity that Canada has given my family and and
01:28:56myself. This is sort of my journey of of paying off my
01:29:00debt to Canada.
01:29:02Almost went from refugee all the way to become Alberta's
01:29:05deputy premier.
01:29:07An MLA for almost 15 years,
01:29:10and in that time he never thought separation was the way
01:29:13to deal with Ottawa. And he thinks that's even more true
01:29:16today. This is the worst time possible. It makes us
01:29:18vulnerable. Never in the history of the relationship
01:29:21between Canada and United States with any president of
01:29:24the United States undermine our sovereignty. The threat is real.
01:29:27I'm taking it very seriously. And I think that is why
01:29:30thousands of Albertans are coming out and meeting with me
01:29:33and the Unity Bus, because they realize that the
01:29:36the severity of this threat.
01:29:38Look around you. You are the future of Alberta. We can do
01:29:42this.
01:29:44The thing is, there are thousands of people
01:29:47across the province coming out in support of separation too.
01:29:50Free and independent Alberta.
01:29:54One of their leaders is Kathy Flett. She's the cofounder of
01:29:57the Alberta Women for Independence Network. I'm
01:30:00absolutely all for Alberta being our own, our own country,
01:30:04our own nation, our own, our own state, our own Republic,
01:30:07whatever word you want to use, but our own entity. Kathy has
01:30:11been pushing for Alberta independence for almost a
01:30:14decade.
01:30:15Her beef, she says, is with Ottawa. We as Albertans
01:30:18don't have, we still don't have a voice,
01:30:21which means we still don't have a choice and what goes on.
01:30:24We're not angry at Canada, we're angry at the government
01:30:28system. It's the government structure that's the problem.
01:30:32Kathy's complaint is the federal government takes
01:30:35Alberta's oil and gas wealth and uses it to help other
01:30:38provinces. And for her, separation would end that and
01:30:41make Alberta richer. What that means pragmatically,
01:30:45I guess on a day today, our paychecks, more of that money will stay in
01:30:49our bank account so that we can look after our families because
01:30:52it's not going to Ottawa. We'll be able to decide what's best
01:30:56for Albertans, not Ottawa deciding what's best
01:30:58for Albertans. Many people say this is the wrong time to be
01:31:01doing this with the United States breathing down our necks.
01:31:05What's your position? This is the perfect time to
01:31:07have this referendum
01:31:09and here's why. Because we are the only province who has a
01:31:13leader who has consistently gone down to the US to try and
01:31:16build up relationship with them. And so we've already got a
01:31:20foundation to build upon, has a belief that's different.
01:31:23Support for separation here is strongest with people who are
01:31:27middle-aged, but there are younger voices too,
01:31:31called freedom, or in this case, 2 Voices. Sisters,
01:31:34what do you want?
01:31:37Let's Go
01:31:40Madison and Macy Holmes host a political podcast. I'm already
01:31:43gutted when I have to ask my 50 year old father to go back to
01:31:46the rigs because my ideas, talents and ability to learn
01:31:49and create isn't enough for me to make a life for myself.
01:31:53If ever there was a ballot in front of me
01:31:56on whether or not to vote Alberta out of Canada,
01:31:59my pencil will be checking yes. This is not a whim decision.
01:32:02We've thought about this really hard and we're because our
01:32:05future is worth thinking about.
01:32:09I picked 00 as the number because we are 0 years
01:32:12independent.
01:32:14Madison and Macy's say they want an independent Alberta
01:32:17because of the economic troubles they see with their
01:32:20generation. Well, it's just the overall quality
01:32:23of life. It's like even if some people are getting by,
01:32:26that's all it is, is getting by. It is not
01:32:29thriving. It's it's not enough. I want more from life and I
01:32:32know that a lot of people do. And since me and our Mattie are
01:32:36going to be inheriting the next generation of whatever Canada
01:32:39is to be, if it continues to go down this
01:32:42path, I don't see any future for me or
01:32:46my generation because so many people are moving back in with
01:32:48their parents, right? They can't afford a first time
01:32:50home. And so if there's any chance that there is a
01:32:53potential for us to have something better,
01:32:55then this is just what this is trying to accomplish. That's
01:32:59what independence is trying to accomplish. Well,
01:33:01to give you what you've all been waiting for,
01:33:04Macy and Madison tell me they'll keep fighting for
01:33:06separation no matter the result of the vote. And that's what
01:33:10many in the movements say.
01:33:14The people who want Alberta to stay in Canada seem to be a
01:33:18significant majority. That's what the latest polls suggest.
01:33:25Thomas arrives in Vegreville. People here are happy to see
01:33:28the Unity bus.
01:33:31They tell me they're relieved to have someone who represents
01:33:34them. Hello,
01:33:36how are you? How are you?
01:33:40Thank you so much. Thank you. OK. That's a camera,
01:33:43by the way. Have you ever seen one?
01:33:47My father fought in World War 2 and died for the very democracy
01:33:53independence movement. People realize the damage they're
01:33:56doing right now. Love this shirt and you. Do you guys know
01:33:59each other?
01:34:02I came here today to support Canada. I have a firm believer
01:34:06in the our country and the divisions that are being caused
01:34:10by a certain few disgust me. So I'm just at that point where
01:34:14it's time to fight back, and this is what we're here for.
01:34:19Thomas doesn't hang around long.
01:34:22Tony's back in the bus driving to the next town. As long as
01:34:26this bus holds out, I will hold out for sure.
01:34:31I'm fully prepared for having yet another campaign following
01:34:35October 19 if we have to. But I'm an optimist. I I think we
01:34:39will be sending a very strong message that Alberta will not
01:34:43be the weak link in the Confederation that would lead
01:34:47to some kind of a breakup.
01:34:52YOU'RE WATCHING CBC NEWS NETWORK. MARIANNE DIMAIN. NETWORK. MARIANNE DIMAIN. ALBERTA IS CLOSING IN ON A
01:34:55MARIANNE DIMAIN. ALBERTA IS CLOSING IN ON A DECISION WITH THE POWER TO SHAPE ALBERTA IS CLOSING IN ON A DECISION WITH THE POWER TO SHAPE THE FUTURE OF THIS COUNTRY.
01:34:59DECISION WITH THE POWER TO SHAPE THE FUTURE OF THIS COUNTRY. IT IS JUST ONE WEEK TO GO BEFORE
01:35:01ON SEPARATING FROM THE COUNTRY. PREMIER DANIELLE SMITHED S SAYSF
01:35:07PREMIER DANIELLE SMITHED S SAYSF THE MAJORITY OF VOTERS REJECT THE MAJORITY OF VOTERS REJECT SEPARATION, SHE'LL CONSIDER THE
01:35:10SEPARATION, SHE'LL CONSIDER THE MATTER CLOSED.
01:35:14MATTER CLOSED. CBC NEWS CHIEF POLITICAL CBC NEWS CHIEF POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT ADRIENNE ARSENAULT
01:35:17CORRESPONDENT ADRIENNE ARSENAULT SPOKE WITH THE PREMIER IN
01:35:21SPOKE WITH THE PREMIER IN CALGARY.
01:35:24CALGARY. >> Reporter: THANK YOU VERY >> Reporter: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MUCH. REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
01:35:28REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. A MOMENT WITH PREMIER DANIELLE A MOMENT WITH PREMIER DANIELLE SMITH AND CLARITY ON A QUESTION SMITH AND CLARITY ON A QUESTION THAT LINGERS.
01:35:31THAT LINGERS. WHAT HAPPENS THE DAY AFTER THE WHAT HAPPENS THE DAY AFTER THE REFERENDUM?
01:35:34REFERENDUM? IF IT COMES TO BE THAT A IF IT COMES TO BE THAT A MAJORITY OF ALBERTANS VOTE
01:35:37MAJORITY OF ALBERTANS VOTE OPTION ONE TO KEEP ALBERTA IN OPTION ONE TO KEEP ALBERTA IN CANADA, WILL YOU COMMIT TO NOT
01:35:41CANADA, WILL YOU COMMIT TO NOT HOLDING A BINDING REFERENDUM? HOLDING A BINDING REFERENDUM? >> CORRECT. >> CORRECT. YEAH.
01:35:44YEAH. I MEAN, THAT'S TO ME WHAT OPTION I MEAN, THAT'S TO ME WHAT OPTION ONE MEANS.
01:35:47ONE MEANS. IF YOU VOTE TO REMAIN IN CANADA,
01:35:49IF YOU VOTE TO REMAIN IN CANADA, THEN YOU ARE REJECTING OPTION THEN YOU ARE REJECTING OPTION TWO, WHICH IS TO START THE LEGAL
01:35:53TWO, WHICH IS TO START THE LEGAL PROCESS TO HOLD A BINDING PROCESS TO HOLD A BINDING REFERENDUM.
01:35:55REFERENDUM. SO THAT'S HOW I WOULD TAKE IT. SO THAT'S HOW I WOULD TAKE IT. >> Reporter: THIS WON'T CROP UP >> Reporter: THIS WON'T CROP UP AGAIN?
01:35:59AGAIN? >> NOT AS LONG AS I'M PREMIER. >> NOT AS LONG AS I'M PREMIER. >> Reporter: NOT AS LONG AS SHE
01:36:02>> Reporter: NOT AS LONG AS SHE IS PREMIER. IS PREMIER. IN A ONE-ON-ONE INTERVIEW WITH
01:36:05IN A ONE-ON-ONE INTERVIEW WITH "THE NATIONAL," SMITH RULING OUT
01:36:08A SECOND REFERENDUM IF THE MAJORITY OF ALBERTANS VOTE TO MAJORITY OF ALBERTANS VOTE TO REMAIN IN CANADA IN JUST OVER A
01:36:11REMAIN IN CANADA IN JUST OVER A WEEK'S TIME.
01:36:16WEEK'S TIME. [HONKING] [HONKING] THOSE PUSHING FOR SEPARATIST THOSE PUSHING FOR SEPARATIST WON'T STOP NO MATTER THE RESULT.
01:36:20WON'T STOP NO MATTER THE RESULT. >> I WILL ACCEPT THE RESULTS FOR >> I WILL ACCEPT THE RESULTS FOR WHAT THEY ARE.
01:36:23WHAT THEY ARE. THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE GOING TO
01:36:26THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE GOING TO QUIT IF WE DON'T LIKE THEM. QUIT IF WE DON'T LIKE THEM. >> CANADA IS WORKING BETTER THAN
01:36:29>> CANADA IS WORKING BETTER THAN IT EVER HAS.
01:36:36IT EVER HAS. SEPARATION ISN'T THE ONLY SEPARATION ISN'T THE ONLY QUESTION ON THE BALLOT. QUESTION ON THE BALLOT. NINE OTHERS IF ALL SUPPORTED BY
01:36:39NINE OTHERS IF ALL SUPPORTED BY SMITH. SMITH. WHAT WOULD BE THE PERCENTAGE TO WHAT WOULD BE THE PERCENTAGE TO THE R-FOR THE OTHER NINE
01:36:43THE R-FOR THE OTHER NINE QUESTIONS, THOUGH? QUESTIONS, THOUGH? >> AGAIN I BELIEVE IN DEMOCRACY. >> AGAIN I BELIEVE IN DEMOCRACY. I BELIEVE A MAJORITY RULE SEEMS
01:36:47I BELIEVE A MAJORITY RULE SEEMS TO BE THE WAY THAT MOST TO BE THE WAY THAT MOST DECISIONS ARE MADE.
01:36:50DECISIONS ARE MADE. AND SO IF THEY'RE REJECTED, I AND SO IF THEY'RE REJECTED, I WOULD ACCEPT THAT.
01:36:53WOULD ACCEPT THAT. SO I'M HOPING TO GET OVER 50%. SO I'M HOPING TO GET OVER 50%. >> Reporter: OKAY. >> Reporter: OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO BE CLEAR
01:36:57THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO BE CLEAR ON. ON. 50%. 50%. >> HAS TO BE OVER 50%.
01:37:00>> HAS TO BE OVER 50%. IF THEY'RE REJECTED, YOU KNOW IF THEY'RE REJECTED, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'LL HAVE TO PURSUE OTHER
01:37:04WHAT, WE'LL HAVE TO PURSUE OTHER THINGS -- FIND OUT OTHER THINGS
01:37:06THINGS -- FIND OUT OTHER THINGS ALBERTANS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT.
01:37:09ALBERTANS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT. >> Reporter: ALBERTA IS A YEAR >> Reporter: ALBERTA IS A YEAR OUT FROM ANOTHER PROVINCIAL
01:37:13OUT FROM ANOTHER PROVINCIAL ELECTION. ELECTION. THE U.C.P. CONVENTION HAD ROCKY THE U.C.P. CONVENTION HAD ROCKY MOMENTS FOR THE PREMIER.
01:37:16MOMENTS FOR THE PREMIER. >> FEEL A LOT MORE CONFIDENT
01:37:18>> FEEL A LOT MORE CONFIDENT THAN CANADA WORKS THAN A COUPLE
01:37:23OF DAYS AGO. [BOOING] [BOOING] >> Reporter: NOW AS THEN THE >> Reporter: NOW AS THEN THE SEPARATIST VOICES WITHIN HER OWN
01:37:26SEPARATIST VOICES WITHIN HER OWN PARTY ARE LOUD. PARTY ARE LOUD. POLLING SUGGESTING JUST OVER
01:37:29POLLING SUGGESTING JUST OVER HALF OF U.C.P. VOTERS ARE NOW AT
01:37:31HALF OF U.C.P. VOTERS ARE NOW AT ODDS WITH HER POSITION ON THE ODDS WITH HER POSITION ON THE UNITY QUESTION.
01:37:35UNITY QUESTION. AND WHILE SMITH SAYS SHE SPEAKS AND WHILE SMITH SAYS SHE SPEAKS WITH PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES, WHEN
01:37:38WITH PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES, WHEN IT COMES TO SEPARATIST LEADERS IT COMES TO SEPARATIST LEADERS -- -- >> AS YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN, I'M
01:37:42>> AS YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN, I'M KIND OF PUBLIC ENEMY NUMBER ONE KIND OF PUBLIC ENEMY NUMBER ONE FOR THE GROUP. FOR THE GROUP. THEY DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT
01:37:46THEY DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT I'VE TAKEN SUCH A STRONG I'VE TAKEN SUCH A STRONG POSITION ON REMAIN. POSITION ON REMAIN. NO, I'M NOT IN CONTACT WITH ANY
01:37:50NO, I'M NOT IN CONTACT WITH ANY OF THEM. OF THEM. >> Reporter: HER POSITION FOR
01:37:52>> Reporter: HER POSITION FOR ALBERTA TO REMAIN IN. ALBERTA TO REMAIN IN. >> David: IS WHAT THE MAJORITY >> David: IS WHAT THE MAJORITY OF ALBERTANS CONSISTENTLY OF ALBERTANS CONSISTENTLY BELIEVE
01:37:58What kind of future do Albertans want for their
01:38:00province? The upcoming referendum will
01:38:02reveal where voters stand. To learn what the choices mean,
01:38:06stay tuned to CBC News for full coverage. The Alberta
01:38:09referendum October 19th. Make an informed choice.
01:40:15>> Marianne: POPE LEO SAID TODAY THAT HE'LL HAVE SURGERY TO
01:40:17THAT HE'LL HAVE SURGERY TO REMOVE A NODULAR LESION ON HIS REMOVE A NODULAR LESION ON HIS LUNG.
01:40:21LUNG. HE MADE THE ANNOUNCEMENT DURING HE MADE THE ANNOUNCEMENT DURING HIS NOON BLESSING AT THE HIS NOON BLESSING AT THE VATICAN.
01:40:24VATICAN. THE CBC'S MEGAN WILLIAMS IS
01:40:26THE CBC'S MEGAN WILLIAMS IS FOLLOWING THE STORY FROM ROME.
01:40:28AND TELLS US MORE ABOUT THE PONTIFF'S MEDICAL SITUATION. PONTIFF'S MEDICAL SITUATION. >> Reporter: IT WAS POPE LEO WHO
01:40:32>> Reporter: IT WAS POPE LEO WHO MADE THE ANNOUNCEMENT HIMSELF
01:40:33MADE THE ANNOUNCEMENT HIMSELF ABOUT THIS UPCOMING SURGERY
01:40:36ABOUT THIS UPCOMING SURGERY TODAY IN ST. PETER'S SQUARE TODAY IN ST. PETER'S SQUARE DURING THE SUNDAY ANGELES.
01:40:39DURING THE SUNDAY ANGELES. HE TOLD THE PILGRIMS GATHERED
01:40:41HE TOLD THE PILGRIMS GATHERED BELOW THAT HE WAS GOING TO HAVE
01:40:44BELOW THAT HE WAS GOING TO HAVE THIS NODULE REMOVED IN THE NEXT THIS NODULE REMOVED IN THE NEXT DAYS.
01:40:47DAYS. HE SAID THAT IT WAS DISCOVERED HE SAID THAT IT WAS DISCOVERED DURING A ROUTINE MEDICAL CHECK.
01:40:51DURING A ROUTINE MEDICAL CHECK. IT IS CIRCUMSCRIBED, WHICH I'M
01:40:53IT IS CIRCUMSCRIBED, WHICH I'M ASSUMING IT MEANS -- HE SAYS IT ASSUMING IT MEANS -- HE SAYS IT HAS NOT SPREAD.
01:40:57HAS NOT SPREAD. HE SAID IT WAS DISCOVERED VERY
01:40:59HE SAID IT WAS DISCOVERED VERY EARLY ON, WHICH IS, OF COURSE,
01:41:01EARLY ON, WHICH IS, OF COURSE, VERY GOOD THING.
01:41:04VERY GOOD THING. THE VATICAN WOULDN'T SAY EXACTLY
01:41:06THE VATICAN WOULDN'T SAY EXACTLY WHEN HE'S GOING TO HAVE THE WHEN HE'S GOING TO HAVE THE SURGERY.
01:41:09SURGERY. ITALIAN MEDIA IS REPORTING THAT ITALIAN MEDIA IS REPORTING THAT IT IS NOT TOMORROW.
01:41:12IT IS NOT TOMORROW. SO LIKELY TUESDAY OR WEDNESDAY. SO LIKELY TUESDAY OR WEDNESDAY. THEY SAID EARLY THIS WEEK
01:41:16THEY SAID EARLY THIS WEEK SOMETIME. SOMETIME. HE'LL GO TO GEMELLI HOSPITAL
01:41:20HE'LL GO TO GEMELLI HOSPITAL HERE IN ROME, WHICH IS THE HERE IN ROME, WHICH IS THE HOSPITAL THAT HAS A PAPAL SUITE.
01:41:24HOSPITAL THAT HAS A PAPAL SUITE. THIS IS THE HOSPITAL THAT POPE
01:41:26THIS IS THE HOSPITAL THAT POPE FRANCIS AND BEFORE HIM POPE JOHN
01:41:30FRANCIS AND BEFORE HIM POPE JOHN PAUL II AND POPE BENEDICT ALL PAUL II AND POPE BENEDICT ALL STAYED IN THE HOSPITAL WHERE THE
01:41:33STAYED IN THE HOSPITAL WHERE THE POPES ARE TREATED. POPES ARE TREATED. HE'LL GO IN THERE AND THE
01:41:36HE'LL GO IN THERE AND THE VATICAN SAYS HE'LL LIKELY BE OUT VATICAN SAYS HE'LL LIKELY BE OUT WITHIN A WEEK. WITHIN A WEEK. THIS IS A POPE WHO IS IN PRETTY
01:41:40THIS IS A POPE WHO IS IN PRETTY GOOD PHYSICAL SHAPE. GOOD PHYSICAL SHAPE. HE'S, YOU KNOW, 71 YEARS OLD.
01:41:43HE'S, YOU KNOW, 71 YEARS OLD. HE PLAYS TENNIS REGULARLY.
01:41:46HE PLAYS TENNIS REGULARLY. AND HE ALSO SWIMS.
01:41:48AND HE ALSO SWIMS. HE'S A YOUNG POPE AND A POPE
01:41:53HE'S A YOUNG POPE AND A POPE THAT PRIORITIZES PHYSICAL THAT PRIORITIZES PHYSICAL ACTIVITY AND BEING IN GOOD
01:41:56ACTIVITY AND BEING IN GOOD SHAPE. SHAPE. >> Marianne: EVEN STILL WITH THE >> Marianne: EVEN STILL WITH THE RECOVERY AND THE TIME AND THE
01:42:00RECOVERY AND THE TIME AND THE SURGERY, HOW IS THIS EXPECTED TO SURGERY, HOW IS THIS EXPECTED TO AFFECT HIS SCHEDULE?
01:42:03AFFECT HIS SCHEDULE? >> Reporter: WELL, THE NEXT BIG
01:42:05>> Reporter: WELL, THE NEXT BIG TRIP FOR THE POPE IS A
01:42:08TRIP FOR THE POPE IS A NOVEMBER 7th. NOVEMBER 7th. IT'S ABOUT A TEN-DAY TRIP.
01:42:11IT'S ABOUT A TEN-DAY TRIP. HE'S GOING TO SOUTH AMERICA.
01:42:13HE'S GOING TO SOUTH AMERICA. HE WILL BE GOING TO URUGUAY, TO
01:42:16HE WILL BE GOING TO URUGUAY, TO ARGENTINA WHICH IS, OF COURSE, ARGENTINA WHICH IS, OF COURSE, WHERE POPE FRANCIS CAME FROM.
01:42:19WHERE POPE FRANCIS CAME FROM. AND ALSO PERU WHERE POPE LEO IS
01:42:23AND ALSO PERU WHERE POPE LEO IS A CITIZEN. A CITIZEN. HE LIVED THERE FOR TWO DECADES
01:42:26HE LIVED THERE FOR TWO DECADES OR SO.
01:42:28OR SO. SO IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT TRIP.
01:42:31SO IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT TRIP. THE VATICAN ISN'T SAYING IT'S THE VATICAN ISN'T SAYING IT'S CANCELLED. CANCELLED. I EXPECT IT WILL BE VERY
01:42:35I EXPECT IT WILL BE VERY IMPORTANT FOR HIM TO BE ON THAT IMPORTANT FOR HIM TO BE ON THAT TRIP. TRIP. >> Marianne: THAT'S
01:42:42Bonjour Tillemont. If nothing was done,
01:42:44it would become legal in March for people with a mental
01:42:48illness to seek medical assistance in dying. But now
01:42:51Justice Minister Sean Fraser says that won't happen. The
01:42:54government will be tabling legislation this fall that will
01:42:57maintain that exclusion on an indeterminate basis. After all,
01:43:01we're talking about ending another human beings life and I
01:43:04think we should have the strictest sort of oversight and
01:43:08criteria around that. Munn bioethics professor Darrell
01:43:11Pullman is applauding
01:43:12federal decision. This decision now by the federal government
01:43:17seems to say, well, let let's slow down here,
01:43:20at least in this place and take a look at it. Pullman believes
01:43:24the criteria for who should be able to receive made needs
01:43:29further examination. Well, I've been generally concerned
01:43:33since 2016 when the legislation first came into effect that the
01:43:38eligibility criteria for for made were,
01:43:40were very loose in terms of the how they were interpreted.
01:43:46I mean, generally, generally Canadians are in
01:43:49favour of, you know, having access to medical
01:43:52assistance in dying, but
01:43:54I think for the vast majority of Canadians,
01:43:57they believe that's for people with terminal illness. Medical
01:44:01assistance in dying is available to Canadians with a
01:44:04grievous and irremediable illness. Palliative care
01:44:07physician Susan McDonald believes there could be
01:44:10instances where that definition applies to a person with a
01:44:14mental illness. She's questioning the federal
01:44:17government's decision concern over one group of people who
01:44:20have been
01:44:22discriminated against. If you want to look at that that way,
01:44:27in that they can't have something that all other
01:44:30Canadians can apply for. As a physician who provides
01:44:34palliative care, McDonald sees many people near
01:44:37the end of their lives. I have seen patients who have had
01:44:40chronic mental illness
01:44:43and then they are referred to me because they develop a
01:44:48cancer or another illness
01:44:50and one of the first things out of their mouth is,
01:44:54thank God I have this cancer. Now I qualify to have medical
01:44:58aid in dying and that breaks my heart because I see people who
01:45:03have suffered and suffered and suffered
01:45:06who have wanted to have this procedure but have been denied
01:45:10it specifically because of the type of illness that they have.
01:45:15The federal government hasn't said exactly when this fall it
01:45:19will introduce changes to redefine made legislation in
01:45:23Canada. Mark Quinn, CBC News, St. John's.
01:45:29>> MY PLEASURE. >> Marianne: NOW TO A NEW REPORT >> Marianne: NOW TO A NEW REPORT BY CANADIAN MENTAL HEALTH
01:45:33BY CANADIAN MENTAL HEALTH NETWORK JACK.ORG SAYS ONE IN NETWORK JACK.ORG SAYS ONE IN THREE CANADIANS, YOUNG CANADIANS
01:45:37THREE CANADIANS, YOUNG CANADIANS USE GENERATIVE A.I. TOOLS AT
01:45:40USE GENERATIVE A.I. TOOLS AT LEAST ONCE A MONTH TO SUPPORT LEAST ONCE A MONTH TO SUPPORT THEIR MENTAL HEALTH.
01:45:43THEIR MENTAL HEALTH. NEARLY HALF SAY THEY'VE NOT TOLD NEARLY HALF SAY THEY'VE NOT TOLD ANYONE ABOUT THEIR USE OF A.I.
01:45:45ANYONE ABOUT THEIR USE OF A.I. FOR MENTAL HEALTH. FOR MENTAL HEALTH. SOME EXPERTS ARE EXPRESSING SOME EXPERTS ARE EXPRESSING CONCERNS SAYING A.I. TOOLS
01:45:49CONCERNS SAYING A.I. TOOLS SHOULD NOT BE USED TO IT SHOULD NOT BE USED TO IT SUBSTITUTE A HUMAN THERAPIST.
01:45:52SUBSTITUTE A HUMAN THERAPIST. THE REPORT COMES AS THE PUSH TO THE REPORT COMES AS THE PUSH TO SLOW DOWN A.I. DEVELOPMENT AND
01:45:56SLOW DOWN A.I. DEVELOPMENT AND PLACE GUARDRAILS AROUND IT GAINS PLACE GUARDRAILS AROUND IT GAINS MOMENTUM AROUND THE WORLD.
01:45:59MOMENTUM AROUND THE WORLD. DR. PETER SELBY IS AN ADDICTION
01:46:02DR. PETER SELBY IS AN ADDICTION MEDICINE PHYSICIAN AND SENIOR MEDICINE PHYSICIAN AND SENIOR SCIENTIST IN TORONTO AND HAS
01:46:06SCIENTIST IN TORONTO AND HAS MORE ON THE CONCERNS WITH MORE ON THE CONCERNS WITH REPLACING PERSON-TO-PERSON
01:46:10REPLACING PERSON-TO-PERSON THERAPY WITH ARTIFICIAL THERAPY WITH ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE. INTELLIGENCE. >> TEMPERATURE DOES NOT HAVE
01:46:14>> TEMPERATURE DOES NOT HAVE CONTEXT OF THE PERSON AND THE CONTEXT OF THE PERSON AND THE SITUATION AROUND.
01:46:16SITUATION AROUND. AND IT DOESN'T HAVE THAT THE AND IT DOESN'T HAVE THAT THE ABILITY TO DISTINGUISH WHETHER
01:46:20ABILITY TO DISTINGUISH WHETHER SOMEBODY IS DEVELOPING, FOR SOMEBODY IS DEVELOPING, FOR EXAMPLE, PARANOIA OR DEVELOPING
01:46:24EXAMPLE, PARANOIA OR DEVELOPING PSYCHOSIS OR HALLUCINATING
01:46:27PSYCHOSIS OR HALLUCINATING THEMSELVES OR IS ACTUALLY IN
01:46:30THEMSELVES OR IS ACTUALLY IN TROUBLE WITH HAVING, YOU KNOW,
01:46:32TROUBLE WITH HAVING, YOU KNOW, SUICIDAL IDEATION WHETHER THEY
01:46:37SUICIDAL IDEATION WHETHER THEY COULD HURT THEMSELVES OR HURT COULD HURT THEMSELVES OR HURT OTHERS.
01:46:40OTHERS. THESE AGENTS WHICH ARE JUST OPEN THESE AGENTS WHICH ARE JUST OPEN TO THE PUBLIC WITHOUT ANY KIND
01:46:43TO THE PUBLIC WITHOUT ANY KIND OF RESTRICTIONS FOR THOSE KINDS
01:46:45OF RESTRICTIONS FOR THOSE KINDS OF ACTIVITIES ARE POTENTIALLY
01:46:49OF ACTIVITIES ARE POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS. DANGEROUS. IT WOULD BE LIKE RELEASING A NEW IT WOULD BE LIKE RELEASING A NEW MEDICATION FOR A CONDITION.
01:46:54MEDICATION FOR A CONDITION. IT MAY BE QUITE EFFECTIVE. IT MAY BE QUITE EFFECTIVE. WITHOUT ACTUALLY HAVING IT BEING
01:46:56WITHOUT ACTUALLY HAVING IT BEING TESTED, WITHOUT GETTING TESTED, WITHOUT GETTING AUTHORIZED AND CONTROLLED AS TO
01:46:59AUTHORIZED AND CONTROLLED AS TO WHETHER IT'S AN OVER-THE-COUNTER WHETHER IT'S AN OVER-THE-COUNTER PRODUCT OR A PRESCRIPTION
01:47:03PRODUCT OR A PRESCRIPTION PRODUCT OR WHETHER IT HAS TO BE PRODUCT OR WHETHER IT HAS TO BE ADMINISTERED WITHIN A HOSPITAL, ADMINISTERED WITHIN A HOSPITAL, RIGHT.
01:47:06RIGHT. THOSE ARE HOW WE WOULD PUT A NEW THOSE ARE HOW WE WOULD PUT A NEW TREATMENT ON THE MARKET.
01:47:10TREATMENT ON THE MARKET. THIS, UNFORTUNATELY, HAS JUST THIS, UNFORTUNATELY, HAS JUST COME OUT WITHOUT ANY -- ANY
01:47:14COME OUT WITHOUT ANY -- ANY THOUGHT TO THAT KIND OF USE
01:47:20THOUGHT TO THAT KIND OF USE CASES. CASES. >> Marianne: DR. PETER SELBY IS >> Marianne: DR. PETER SELBY IS AN ADDICTION MEDICINE
01:47:26SCHEDULE. MERCEDES GAZTAMBIDE REPORTS. >> Reporter: IF YOU FEEL LIKE
01:47:30MERCEDES GAZTAMBIDE REPORTS. >> Reporter: IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE SURROUNDED BY PEOPLE
01:47:32>> Reporter: IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE SURROUNDED BY PEOPLE COUGHING AND SNEEZING AT WORK OR
01:47:34YOU'RE SURROUNDED BY PEOPLE COUGHING AND SNEEZING AT WORK OR NOTICING MORE SICK CALLS THAN COUGHING AND SNEEZING AT WORK OR NOTICING MORE SICK CALLS THAN USUAL, YOU'RE NOT IMAGINING
01:47:38NOTICING MORE SICK CALLS THAN USUAL, YOU'RE NOT IMAGINING THINGS. USUAL, YOU'RE NOT IMAGINING THINGS. FLU SEASON IS UPON US, AND THIS
01:47:42THINGS. FLU SEASON IS UPON US, AND THIS INFECTIOUS DISEASE SPECIALIST FLU SEASON IS UPON US, AND THIS INFECTIOUS DISEASE SPECIALIST SAYS IT'S HERE A USUALLY EARLIER
01:47:45INFECTIOUS DISEASE SPECIALIST SAYS IT'S HERE A USUALLY EARLIER THAN USUAL. SAYS IT'S HERE A USUALLY EARLIER THAN USUAL. >> USUALLY THE TAIL END OF
01:47:49THAN USUAL. >> USUALLY THE TAIL END OF OCTOBER/EARLY NOVEMBER. >> USUALLY THE TAIL END OF OCTOBER/EARLY NOVEMBER. IF WE LOOK AT FLU, WE LOOK AT
01:47:53OCTOBER/EARLY NOVEMBER. IF WE LOOK AT FLU, WE LOOK AT THE PERCENTAGE OF TEST THAT IS IF WE LOOK AT FLU, WE LOOK AT THE PERCENTAGE OF TEST THAT IS WERE POSITIVE OVER THE SUMMER
01:47:57THE PERCENTAGE OF TEST THAT IS WERE POSITIVE OVER THE SUMMER MONTHS. WERE POSITIVE OVER THE SUMMER MONTHS. IT WAS REALLY LOW. MONTHS. IT WAS REALLY LOW. 0.4.
01:48:01IT WAS REALLY LOW. 0.4. AND NOW IT'S JUST OVER 1%. 0.4. AND NOW IT'S JUST OVER 1%. ABOUT 1.3, 1.5% OF TESTS, SO,
01:48:05AND NOW IT'S JUST OVER 1%. ABOUT 1.3, 1.5% OF TESTS, SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN EARLY RISE.
01:48:07ABOUT 1.3, 1.5% OF TESTS, SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN EARLY RISE. >> Reporter: PUBLIC HEALTH YOU KNOW, IT'S AN EARLY RISE. >> Reporter: PUBLIC HEALTH ONTARIO REPORTED 202 CONFIRMED
01:48:11>> Reporter: PUBLIC HEALTH ONTARIO REPORTED 202 CONFIRMED CASES OF INFLUENZA IN THE THIRD
01:48:13ONTARIO REPORTED 202 CONFIRMED CASES OF INFLUENZA IN THE THIRD WEEK OF SEPTEMBER, AND ACROSS CASES OF INFLUENZA IN THE THIRD WEEK OF SEPTEMBER, AND ACROSS CANADA, 815 CASES WERE REPORTED
01:48:17WEEK OF SEPTEMBER, AND ACROSS CANADA, 815 CASES WERE REPORTED THAT SAME WEEK. CANADA, 815 CASES WERE REPORTED THAT SAME WEEK. THIS FAMILY DOCTOR SAYS EVIDENCE
01:48:20THAT SAME WEEK. THIS FAMILY DOCTOR SAYS EVIDENCE OF THE FLU'S EARLY ARRIVAL IS IN THIS FAMILY DOCTOR SAYS EVIDENCE OF THE FLU'S EARLY ARRIVAL IS IN HIS WAITING ROOM.
01:48:24OF THE FLU'S EARLY ARRIVAL IS IN HIS WAITING ROOM. >> OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF HIS WAITING ROOM. >> OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, WE'RE SEEING OTHER
01:48:28>> OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, WE'RE SEEING OTHER SYMPTOMS THAT ARE NOR INDICATIVE WEEKS, WE'RE SEEING OTHER SYMPTOMS THAT ARE NOR INDICATIVE OF FLU.
01:48:31SYMPTOMS THAT ARE NOR INDICATIVE OF FLU. SO, IN PARTICULAR, I'VE BEEN OF FLU. SO, IN PARTICULAR, I'VE BEEN SEEING A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE
01:48:35SO, IN PARTICULAR, I'VE BEEN SEEING A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE RAPID ONSET FEVERS, SO THAT'S
01:48:37SEEING A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE RAPID ONSET FEVERS, SO THAT'S ONE OF THE FIRST MAJOR SIGNS.
01:48:39RAPID ONSET FEVERS, SO THAT'S ONE OF THE FIRST MAJOR SIGNS. WE'RE, LIKE, HEY, THIS IS A ONE OF THE FIRST MAJOR SIGNS. WE'RE, LIKE, HEY, THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT COMPARED TO THE
01:48:43WE'RE, LIKE, HEY, THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT COMPARED TO THE USUAL SEASONAL COLD. LITTLE DIFFERENT COMPARED TO THE USUAL SEASONAL COLD. >> Reporter: MANY PEOPLE DON'T
01:48:47USUAL SEASONAL COLD. >> Reporter: MANY PEOPLE DON'T GET TESTED WHEN WE HAVE CLASSIC >> Reporter: MANY PEOPLE DON'T GET TESTED WHEN WE HAVE CLASSIC SYMPTOMS LIKE A COUGH OR RUNNY
01:48:51GET TESTED WHEN WE HAVE CLASSIC SYMPTOMS LIKE A COUGH OR RUNNY NOSE, LEADING TO LOW NUMBERS OF SYMPTOMS LIKE A COUGH OR RUNNY NOSE, LEADING TO LOW NUMBERS OF REPORTED TRANSMISSION.
01:48:55NOSE, LEADING TO LOW NUMBERS OF REPORTED TRANSMISSION. >> I'LL STILL GO TO WORK W I'LL
01:48:57REPORTED TRANSMISSION. >> I'LL STILL GO TO WORK W I'LL STILL GO TO SCHOOL.
01:49:01STILL GO TO SCHOOL. WE'RE HAVING AN EARLY SEASON. TAKE THE PRECAUTIONS NOW. WE'RE HAVING AN EARLY SEASON. TAKE THE PRECAUTIONS NOW. >> Reporter: VACCINES ARE
01:49:05TAKE THE PRECAUTIONS NOW. >> Reporter: VACCINES ARE ROLLING OUT ACROSS.PROVINCE >> Reporter: VACCINES ARE ROLLING OUT ACROSS.PROVINCE RIGHT NOW FOR PEOPLE AT HIGHER
01:49:09ROLLING OUT ACROSS.PROVINCE RIGHT NOW FOR PEOPLE AT HIGHER RISK. RIGHT NOW FOR PEOPLE AT HIGHER RISK. LIKE SENIORS 65 YEARS OF AGE AND
01:49:12RISK. LIKE SENIORS 65 YEARS OF AGE AND OLDER AND PEOPLE IN HOSPITAL.
01:49:14LIKE SENIORS 65 YEARS OF AGE AND OLDER AND PEOPLE IN HOSPITAL. THE GENERAL PUBLIC WILL HAVE
01:49:16OLDER AND PEOPLE IN HOSPITAL. THE GENERAL PUBLIC WILL HAVE ACCESS AS THE OF OCTOBER 26. THE GENERAL PUBLIC WILL HAVE ACCESS AS THE OF OCTOBER 26. IT'S ALSO A GOOD IDEA TO VISIT
01:49:20ACCESS AS THE OF OCTOBER 26. IT'S ALSO A GOOD IDEA TO VISIT YOUR DOCTOR IF YOU'RE IT'S ALSO A GOOD IDEA TO VISIT YOUR DOCTOR IF YOU'RE EXPERIENCING SYMPTOMS, AS THEY
01:49:24YOUR DOCTOR IF YOU'RE EXPERIENCING SYMPTOMS, AS THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO PRESCRIBE MORE EXPERIENCING SYMPTOMS, AS THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO PRESCRIBE MORE THAN TYLENOL, LIKE AN
01:49:28MIGHT BE ABLE TO PRESCRIBE MORE THAN TYLENOL, LIKE AN ANTI-VIRAL. THAN TYLENOL, LIKE AN ANTI-VIRAL. >> IF WE START TREATMENT EARLY,
01:49:31ANTI-VIRAL. >> IF WE START TREATMENT EARLY, IF YOU IMMEDIATE THE >> IF WE START TREATMENT EARLY, IF YOU IMMEDIATE THE REQUIREMENTS, THE SEVERITY OF
01:51:40Yeah, Alicia Linklater says it's a
01:51:42struggle to keep up with the cost of raising a child. Pretty
01:51:46much everything a baby needs is gone up,
01:51:49like expensive. Whether it's diapers, wipes,
01:51:52a crib or a stroller, Linklater says everything costs
01:51:56a lot of money. She's staying at Villa Rosa,
01:51:59a live in program for prenatal and postpartum moms. Linklater
01:52:04says she receives $416 from the federal government to cover non
01:52:08rental needs
01:52:10like food for her and her baby. Quite often I go to buy her
01:52:14formula.
01:52:15Yeah. And I spent like almost $400.00 a month on just milk.
01:52:19Data from Statistics Canada shows the cost of a 900 gram
01:52:23can of formula has gone up by 72% over the last seven years.
01:52:27Carolyn Eva is Villa Rosa's executive director. She says
01:52:31with diaper and formula donations dropping and rents
01:52:34increasing, the nonprofit has had to adapt
01:52:37to their program. Used to be moms had to leave at 30 days
01:52:41postpartum unless they were moving next door to our second
01:52:44stage housing.
01:52:46So now we're keeping moms three or four or five months here in
01:52:49our main residence. She says they're also providing formula
01:52:53for those who stay longer and they're getting funding from
01:52:57the province to help cover that cost.
01:53:00Carrie Richards sees the same gap in donations. They're the
01:53:04executive director of Acorn Family Place. It offers
01:53:07programming and resources for families with young kids. The
01:53:11centre relies on donations. Richard says demand from
01:53:14parents is getting higher regularly with formula,
01:53:17the last half a year, it's often more often than not,
01:53:20we don't have any formula to give and to provide the
01:53:24community. Richards would like to see the cost of formula
01:53:27subsidized. When people are in that place because
01:53:30they need help and support, they have nothing else
01:53:34to come and then ask for help and support and not be able to
01:53:38receive, it is heartbreaking and
01:53:40defeating to people. Richards recognizes the pressures on
01:53:44families in need and donors and says the rising cost of living
01:53:47is making life harder for everyone. Alicia Wang, CBC News,
01:53:51Winnipeg.
01:55:58Environment Canada says probably not. It'll be a
01:56:01distant memory, but it just serves as a good
01:56:03reminder of trying to get ready for for winter. Edmonton saw
01:56:07some flurries Saturday, bringing out hats and hoods for
01:56:10many pedestrians, but it didn't last. Calgary
01:56:13snow started later than originally expected,
01:56:15with residents waking up to a light blanket Sunday morning.
01:56:19Environment Canada says this is the normal time of year to see
01:56:23snow beginning, but the still warm ground
01:56:25and mild temperatures only just around freezing mean it will
01:56:29mostly melt. Something that could be more common this
01:56:32winter. With a strong climate pattern building in Western
01:56:35Canada, El Nino conditions tend to give
01:56:38a warmer than average winters and drier than average winters,
01:56:41but that doesn't mean no snow or cold temperatures. Instead,
01:56:45the province could see more freezing rain and less cold
01:56:48injections. You know those possibilities of brown
01:56:51Christmases and that type of thing. There's it's always the
01:56:55the big
01:56:57question when it comes to these El Nino events. Temperatures
01:56:59are expected to get back up into the double digits soon.
01:57:03Chelsea Mutter, CBC News, Calgary.
02:00:29I'm Adrian Arceneaux, chief correspondent for CBC News. Here's what's making news right now.
02:00:36ANOTHER MAJOR STORY WE'RE FOLLOWING.
02:00:41FOLLOWING. THE ARABIAN PENINSULA IS
02:00:42THE ARABIAN PENINSULA IS EMERGING AT LATEST FLASH POINT
02:00:45EMERGING AT LATEST FLASH POINT IN THE WIDENING WAR IN THE IN THE WIDENING WAR IN THE MIDDLE EAST. MIDDLE EAST. THE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT HAS
02:00:49THE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT HAS BEEN TARGETED TODAY. BEEN TARGETED TODAY. JUST 24 HOURS AFTER THE COUNTRY
02:00:52JUST 24 HOURS AFTER THE COUNTRY WAS LEFT REELING FROM ITS WAS LEFT REELING FROM ITS DEADLIEST ATTACK IN MORE THAN A
02:00:55DEADLIEST ATTACK IN MORE THAN A DECADE. DECADE. AT LEAST 12 PEOPLE ARE DEAD.
02:00:58AT LEAST 12 PEOPLE ARE DEAD. HUNDREDS MORE WOUNDED AFTER AN HUNDREDS MORE WOUNDED AFTER AN AIRSTRIKE THAT THE SEAU D --