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00:00:22>> [CHANTING] >> Erica: ANTI-I.C.E. PROTESTS CONTINUED IN NEW YORK OVER THE WEEKEND AFTER AN AGENT SHOT A
00:00:25MAN WITH HIS 5-YEAR-OLD SON IN THE CAR. IT'S THE LATEST IN DOZENS OF
00:00:29I.C.E.-INVOLVED SHOOTINGS, INCLUDING TWO FATAL ENCOUNTERS
00:00:33IN MINNEAPOLIS IN JANUARY. THOSE VIOLENT CRACKDOWNS CAME AS
00:00:37TRUMP'S ADMINISTRATION INTENSIFIED ITS DEPORTATION
00:00:39PUSH. NOW NEARLY THREE WEEKS BEFORE
00:00:43THE U.S. MIDTERMS, KATIE
00:00:45NICHOLSON RETURNS TO MINNEAPOLIS
00:00:48TO ASK HOW THOSE DEADLY OPERATIONS MIGHT FACTOR INTO HOW
00:00:52PEOPLE VOTE IN NOVEMBER.
00:00:54>> Reporter: AS I.C.E. AGENTS
00:00:56INUNDATED THE TWIN CITIES,
00:01:00WHISTLES BLEW AND TEAR GAS
00:01:02BILLOWED ACROSS THE STREETS.
00:01:05AND THE PEOPLE OF MINNEAPOLIS CLASHED WITH A MAMMOTH IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT OPERATION.
00:01:09(♪)
00:01:15THE SCENES THAT PLAYED OUT ON THESE STREETS INCLUDING THE
00:01:17KILLINGS OF U.S. CITIZENS RENEE
00:01:21GOOD AND ALEX PREDY DOMINATED
00:01:26HEADLINES. NOW MONTHS LATER, COULD THAT IMMIGRATION CRACKDOWN
00:01:30"OPERATION METRO SURGE" TIP THE SCALES IN A CRUCIAL MIDTERM RACE
00:01:34HERE IN MINNESOTA? THE SNOW AND THE ICE LONG GONE,
00:01:37BUT THE FEAR LINGERS. DO YOU SEE WHAT HAPPENED HERE
00:01:41"OPERATION METRO SURGE" IN ANY
00:01:44WAY IMPACTING THE MIDTERMS? >> YEAH, I THINK THAT IT'S GALVANISING PEOPLE AND I THINK
00:01:48THAT IT'S ALSO SCARING PEOPLE. SO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE MOTIVATED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT NEED TO STEP UP, BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE
00:01:52MIGHT BE AFRAID TO EVEN COME OUT.
00:01:56>> Reporter: THERE'S A CRUCIAL SEAT UP FOR GRABS THAT COULD DETERMINE WHO HAS CONTROL OF THE
00:01:59SENATE. DONALD TRUMP'S REPUBLICANS OR THE DEMOCRATS.
00:02:03(♪)
00:02:07THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION HAS TRIED TO LIMIT MAIL-IN VOTING AND ACCESS STATE VOTER REGISTRATION INFORMATION AND
00:02:11THERE ARE FEARS THAT IT MAY DEPLOY I.C.E. OR OTHER FEDERAL
00:02:14AGENTS TO THE POLLS. >> YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT!
00:02:18>> [WHISTLE]
00:02:22>> WHAT, YOU DON'T LIKE A
00:02:23WHISTLE?
00:02:26>> IT FELT LIKE THE WORLD WAS ENDING OR IT FELT LIKE MY WORLD
00:02:29WAS ENDING.
00:02:35>> Reporter:SHEA RUSHED OUT
00:02:37INTO THE STREET WHEN I.C.E. OFFICERS
00:02:41CAME FOR HER NEIGHBOURS. >> DO YOU THINK THAT YOU'RE DOING GOOD, THAT THIS IS GOOD FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND THE COUNTRY?
00:02:44OH, YOU CAN LOOK AT ME.
00:02:46I'VE NOT EXPERIENCED FEDERAL
00:02:48AGENT INTERVENTION IN THAT WAY.
00:02:51AND I NEVER THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE SO CLOSE TO MY HOUSE. (♪)
00:02:54>> Reporter: SHEA IS ONE OF THOUSANDS OF MINNESOTANS WHO
00:02:56SIGNED UP FOR TRAINING TO OBSERVE I.C.E.
00:03:00SHE'S TRAINED TO BECOME WHAT
00:03:04GRASSROOTS CALL DEMOCRACY DEFENDERS AND THEY ARE ORGANIZING TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE'S RIGHT TO VOTE IS
00:03:07PROTECTED.
00:03:09"OPERATION METRO SURGE," WHAT
00:03:12ROLE DID THAT PLAY IN YOUR
00:03:13DECISION TO BE A DEMOCRACY
00:03:17DEFENDER? >> EVER SINCE "METRO SURGE"
00:03:20HAPPENED, I HAVE REALLY BEEN FOCUSED ON HOW WE
00:03:24DEFEND OURSELVES FROM THE NEXT THREAT. IT'S A REALLY HARD CONVERSATION ABOUT, LIKE, WHAT IS POSSIBLE
00:03:27FOR US WHEN WE'VE ALREADY SEEN STATE VIOLENCE TAKE AWAY TWO
00:03:31MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY.
00:03:35SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALSO THESE
00:03:36CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, LIKE, WHAT
00:03:40IS YOUR RISK LEVEL IF THAT WERE TO BE THE SITUATION AT THE
00:03:41POLLS. YOU KNOW, IF THEY TRY AND CHARGE
00:03:45AND TAKE A BALLOT BOX, IF THEY PHYSICALLY STOP PEOPLE FROM
00:03:47ENTERING THE POLLS. >> Reporter: AND SO THESE
00:03:50HANDWRITTEN NOTES TO NEIGHBOURS.
00:03:53>> HI, NEIGHBOUR, SOUTHEAST NEIGHBOURS FOR DEMOCRACY DEFENCE
00:03:56IS A GROUP IN THE NEIGHBOURHOOD
00:03:58WORKING TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN VOTE SAFELY IN THE UPCOMING ELECTION.
00:04:02>> Reporter: ENLISTING OTHERS TO SECURE THE VOTE. >> I'M JUST TRYING TO GO AROUND
00:04:05AND MEET NEIGHBOURS TO TALK ABOUT, LIKE, WHAT WE MIGHT DO.
00:04:09LIKE, IF I.C.E. WERE TO SHOW UP
00:04:10AT THE POLLS OR, YOU KNOW, IF,
00:04:15LIKE, THE ADMINISTRATION WERE TO STEW MORE CONFUSION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW TO VOTE.
00:04:18ARE YOU GUYS INTERESTED AT ALL? >> YEAH. >> AND BEING IN THE NETWORK? GREAT.
00:04:21>> HI.
00:04:27>> Reporter: STEVE SIMON IS MINNESOTA'S SECRETARY OF STATE.
00:04:30ONE OF HIS JOBS -- MAINTAINING THE FAIR AND FREE ACCESS TO THE
00:04:33VOTE NO MATTER WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN -- STORMS, OODS, POWER OUTAGES AND NOW A NEW
00:04:37POSSIBILITY.
00:04:42>> I'VE HAD THIS JOB FOR A WHILE AND NEVER, EVER BEFORE HAVE I
00:04:45HAD TO SERIOUSLY THINK ABOUT THE
00:04:49PROSPECT THAT OUR OWN FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WILL BE AN INSTIGATOR OF SOMETHING THAT COULD INTERFERE WITH THE FREEDOM TO
00:04:52VOTE. >> Reporter: WHAT ARE THE
00:04:56CONTINGENCY PLANS THAT YOU HAVE IN PLACE IF THERE IS SOME SORT OF FEDERAL OVERREACH?
00:04:59>> SO JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO OUR STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND I
00:05:03MET WITH OTHER ATTORNEY GENERALS AND SECRETARIES OF STATE IN DETROIT.
00:05:06SEVERAL WEEKS BEFORE THAT WE MET IN MILWAUKEE AND WE HAD TO THINK
00:05:09ABOUT AND TO PLAN FOR VARIOUS SCENARIOS THAT WOULD INCLUDE
00:05:12FEDERAL INTERFERENCE. NOW I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR -- THIS
00:05:15ISN'T A PREDICTION ON OUR PART,
00:05:17BUT IT IS A PRECAUTION THAT WE
00:05:20FEEL WE HAVE TO TAKE. >> Reporter: AND AS IT TURNS OUT, MINNEAPOLIS COULD PLAY A
00:05:23PIVOTAL ROLE IN THE BALANCE OF POWER IN WASHINGTON. WITH A SENATE SEAT UP FOR GRABS.
00:05:27>> AND THEN YOU'VE GOT FLANAGAN --
00:05:30>> Reporter: LARRY JACOBS IS A POLITICAL SCIENTIST AT THE
00:05:34UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA. >> MINNESOTA COULD BE THE
00:05:37DECIDER. IT HAD BEEN ASSUMED THAT
00:05:40MINNESOTA WOULD BE SAFELY DEMOCRATIC IN TERMS OF A NEW
00:05:43SENATOR BEING ELECTED, BUT NOW WE'RE SEEING POLLS AND IT'S A TOSS-UP.
00:05:46SO THAT'S GOING TO BE PERHAPS A
00:05:51DECIDING FACTOR IN WHETHER THE DEMOCRATS AND DONALD TRUMP MAINTAIN CONTROL OF THE U.S. SENATE.
00:05:55>> I WILL PROTECT WHAT'S FAIR AND SAFE, STANDING WITH OUR LAW
00:05:57ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS.
00:05:59>> Reporter: REPUBLICAN MICHELE TAFOYA, A WELL-KNOWN FORMER NFL
00:06:03REPORTER SURPRISINGLY
00:06:09NECK-IN-NECK WITH DEMOCRAT PEGGY
00:06:12FLANAGAN IN A SEAT CONSIDERED
00:06:16NORMALLY SAFE FOR DEMOCRATS. >> WE NEED TO STOP THEM FROM
00:06:19TERRORIZING OUR COMMUNITIES. >> Reporter:BOTH RUNNING ON
00:06:22PLATFORMS THAT INCLUDE IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT, BUT
00:06:25WITH VERY DIFFERENT STANCES.
00:06:28BUT JUST HOW BIG OF AN ISSUE
00:06:30THAT "METRO SURGE" WILL BE IN THE MINDS OF VOTERS IS HARD TO KNOW.
00:06:33>>> WE'VE HAD A WAR IN IRAN AND WE'VE GOT GAS PRICES GOING THROUGH THE ROOF. SO THE "METRO SURGE" HAS FADED I
00:06:37THINK IN THE MINDS OF A GOOD
00:06:38NUMBER OF VOTERS.
00:06:43>> Reporter: AND HE SAYS THAT DEMOCRATS IN THE STATE HAVE LOST GROUND OVER OTHER ISSUES. >> WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS THAT THE
00:06:47REPUBLICAN CRITICISM OF THE DEMOCRATS IN MINNESOTA FOR
00:06:50FRAUD, WASTEFUL SPENDING, HAS
00:06:53REALLY BEGUN TO CATCH UP. >> Reporter: MANY OF THE
00:06:56CONSERVATIVE-LEANING IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES WHO HELPED PROPEL
00:06:59THE REPUBLICANS TO POWER IN
00:07:032024, LATINOS AND AFRICAN AND ARAB VOTERS, WERE CAUGHT IN THE
00:07:05CROSSHAIRS OF "METRO SURGE."
00:07:09WHAT ABOUT THE COMMUNITIES THAT
00:07:11WERE TARGETED BY I.C.E., COULD
00:07:14THAT BE AN X FACTOR IN THE SENATE RACE, FOR EXAMPLE? >> WE MAY HAVE A VERY, VERY
00:07:18CLOSE SENATE RACE DECIDED BY A SMALL PERCENT. AND THE IMPACT OF DONALD TRUMP'S
00:07:21"METRO SURGE" AND THE
00:07:24IMMIGRATION POLICY IN GENERAL
00:07:25COULD BE JUST WHAT IS NEEDED TO
00:07:28TIP THE RACE AWAY FROM THE REPUBLICANS AND TOWARDS THE DEMOCRATS.
00:07:32(♪)
00:07:38>> Reporter: ONE OF THOSE
00:07:39GROUPS, THE SOMALI COMMUNITY.
00:07:42>> INHERENTLY SOMALIS ARE A VERY RELIGIOUS AND VERY CONSERVATIVE
00:07:46COMMUNITY AND THAT CONSERVATISM
00:07:48DROVE ME TO THE REPUBLICAN
00:07:50PARTY. ♪ AND I WON'T FORGET THE MEN WHO
00:07:54DIED ♪ >> Reporter: SIMON FEKI EVEN
00:07:57RALLIED FOR THE GOP AND THAT'S HIM STANDING BEHIND TRUMP IN
00:08:01JULY 2024.
00:08:04MINNESOTA HAS THE LARGEST SOMALI POPULATION IN THE U.S.
00:08:07PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP REPEATEDLY TARGETED AND INSULTED
00:08:10THEM DURING "METRO SURGE."
00:08:13>> President Trump: THE
00:08:17SOMALIANS SHOULD BE OUT OF HERE. WE'RE GOING TO GO IN THE WRONG
00:08:20WAY IF WE KEEP TAKING IN GARBAGE.
00:08:24>> Reporter: CAUSING SIMON TO CHANGE THE WAY THAT HE VOTED. WHEN WAS THE MOMENT YOU THAT TURNED AWAY FROM THE REPUBLICAN PARTY?
00:08:27DO YOU REMEMBER THAT MOMENT? >> THE MOMENT IS WHEN TRUMP WAS SITTING IN HIS OFFICE AND HE
00:08:31CALLED THE SOMALI COMMUNITY
00:08:31GARBAGE.
00:08:36THAT WAS THE THING THAT BROKE THE CAMEL'S BACK.
00:08:40>> Reporter: DO YOU THINK THAT THE SOMALI VOTE COULD BE THE
00:08:42TIPPING POINT HERE FOR THE DEMOCRATS IF THEY DON'T SHOW UP
00:08:46IN THE NUMBERS THAT THEY PREVIOUSLY HAVE FOR REPUBLICANS?
00:08:49>> SOMALIS ARE TYPICALLY VERY
00:08:52POLITICALLY ENGAGED AND
00:08:54ESPECIALLY IF THEY -- IF THEY
00:08:58FEEL A THREAT, AND THEN THEY
00:09:00RESPOND IN THE ELECTIONS.
00:09:03>> Reporter: AS IT TURNS OUT THAT SOME OTHER MINNESOTANS FEEL THE SAME WAY, EVEN IF IT ISN'T
00:09:07THE DOMINANT ISSUE AT HAND.
00:09:11>> "METRO SURGE" IS CERTAINLY ONE OF THE FACTORS BUT THERE'S A LOT OF THEM.
00:09:14PRETTY MUCH EVERY DAY, EVERYTHING THAT YOU READ YOU JUST CAN'T BELIEVE WHAT'S
00:09:18HAPPENING.
00:09:23>> Reporter: AND YET DESPITE THE STEADY DRUMBEAT OF NEW CONTROVERSIES AND OUTRAGE, IT IS
00:09:27CLEAR THAT AS MINNESOTANS STILL VISIT THE MEMORIALS TO TWO OF
00:09:30THEIR OWN KILLED BY FEDERAL OFFICERS, THE RIPPLE EFFECTS
00:09:33FROM "METRO SURGE" VARIED AND
00:09:37PROFOUND AND HARD FOR MANY TO IGNORE AS THE STATE STARTS TO
00:09:39VOTE.
00:09:44A SIGN OF HIGH ENGAGEMENT AND PERHAPS ANXIETY ABOUT
00:09:46INTERFERENCE ON ELECTION DAY.
00:09:50NUMBERS FROM MINNESOTA'S SECRETARY OF STATE SHOW THAT SO FAR THAT
00:09:54THE EARLY VOTER TURNOUT FOR MIDTERMS IS 28% HIGHER IN THE FIRST THREE WEEKS OF EARLY
00:09:58VOTING THAN IT WAS DURING THE
00:10:002022 MIDTERMS. THIS AS THE U.S. PRESIDENT AR
00:10:03RENEWED ATTACKS ON SOMALIS AND
00:10:06TRUMP EVEN OFFERED TO SEND IN FEDERAL HELP.
00:10:10>> Erica:AND, KATIE, IN THE LAST FEW DAYS WE HAVE SEEN THAT I.C.E. SHOOTING IN NEW YORK AND REKINDLING
00:10:14MEMORIES OF MINNEAPOLIS.
00:10:17HOW COULD THAT WEIGH ON VOTERS? >> Reporter: YEAH, SO THIS IS
00:10:21SOMETHING THAT I DISCUSSED WITH LARRY JACOBS, THE POLITICAL
00:10:24SCIENTIST IN MINNESOTA.
00:10:27AND HE SAYS THAT IN AMERICAN ELECTIONS ESPECIALLY
00:10:30THERE'S A CONCEPT CALLED THE
00:10:33REGENCY EFFECT, AND THAT SHOWS THAT EVENTS BEFORE ELECTION DAY HAVE AN
00:10:37OUTSIZED IMPACT ON THE VOTE. SO POTENTIALLY NEW I.C.E. INCIDENTS LIKE THE ONE IN NEW YORK -- THESE ARE RESURFACING
00:10:40THE TRUMP'S IMMIGRATION AGENDA IN THE MINDS OF VOTERS.
00:10:43SO EVEN THOUGH POLLING TELLS US THAT
00:10:46AFFORDABILITY AND THE WAR IN IRAN ARE ISSUES, VOTERS ARE REMINDED OF ANOTHER ISSUE TO
00:10:49MOTIVATE THAT VOTE AND THIS TIME
00:10:51IT'S NOT JUST IN MINNEAPOLIS. >> Erica: ALL RIGHT, THANKS,
00:10:55KATIE.
00:10:55KATIE NICHOLSON IN WASHINGTON.
00:10:59>>> COMING UP, WHY A PROPOSAL FOR A NEW WEST COAST PIPELINE IS
00:11:03STIRRING DEBATE IN ALBERTA OVER AN OLD ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE --
00:11:06TOXIC MINING WASTE. >> THE PROBLEM ISN'T GOING AWAY,
00:11:10BUT GETTING WORSE. THE AMOUNT OF TAILINGS FLUID
00:11:13KEEPS INCREASING.
00:11:16>> Erica: KYLE BAKX BREAKS DOWN WHAT TAILINGS PONDS ARE AND HOW
00:11:20TO FIX THEM AND WHY IT'S AT THE HEART OF THE CONFLICT.
00:14:29>> Erica: OTTAWA IS BACKING A NEW WEST COAST OIL PIPELINE, BUT
00:14:32IT IS REKINDLING OLD TENSION OVER ALBERTA'S OILSANDS TAILINGS
00:14:35PONDS. LAKES CREATED TO STORE TOXIC
00:14:38MINING WASTE, NOW AT CAPACITY.
00:14:42AS KYLE BAKX TELLS US, THERE'S AGREEMENT A SOLUTION IS NEEDED, BUT HOW TO ACHIEVE IT GETS
00:14:45CONTROVERSIAL.
00:14:51>> Rt. Hon. Mark Carney:THIS IS AN IMPORTANT DAY FOR ALBERTA AND FOR CANADA.
00:14:55>> Reporter: BOLD AMBITIONS TO
00:14:55GROW THE OILSANDS IS ADDING
00:15:00URGENCY TO RESOLVE A DECADES OLD PROBLEM -- TAILINGS PONDS.
00:15:04>> WE CAN'T ALLOW TO GO ANYMORE TIME. THEY ARE AT CAPACITY. >> Reporter: THEY HOLD TOXIC MINING WATER AND NOW OILSANDS
00:15:07COMPANIES ARE EAGER FOR GOVERNMENT APPROVAL TO TREAT THE
00:15:11FLUID AND RELEASE IT BACK INTO THE RIVER.
00:15:14>> IT IS A SITUATION OF ENVIRONMENTAL RACISM. >> Reporter: CONTROVERSIAL, ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE WHO LIVE
00:15:18DOWNSTREAM.
00:15:20BUT FOR INDUSTRY -- SOMETHING HAS TO GIVE.
00:15:23>> THESE TAILINGS FACILITIES ARE NOT MEANT TO BE PERMANENT PARTS
00:15:25OF THE LANDSCAPE.
00:15:30>> Reporter: ALL DAY, EVERY DAY,
00:15:32EVERY FEW SECONDS, AIR CANNONS FIRE.
00:15:35ALONG WITH SCARECROWS TO KEEP
00:15:37THE WILDLIFE FROM LANDING.
00:15:39TAILINGS PONDS ARE TOXIC AND HAVE BEEN EVER SINCE THE FIRST
00:15:43OILSANDS MINE WAS BUILT SIX DECADES AGO.
00:15:46THE PROBLEM ISN'T GOING AWAY. BUT GETTING WORSE.
00:15:49THE AMOUNT OF TAILINGS FLUID KEEPS INCREASING, AND JUMPING BY
00:15:5350% OVER A 10-YEAR PERIOD FROM
00:15:562014 TO 2024.
00:15:59NUMBERS THAT WILL ONLY GROW AS ALBERTA DEVELOPS A NEW PIPELINE
00:16:02TO THE WEST COAST.
00:16:04WITH OTTAWA'S SUPPORT. AND PURSUES AN AMBITIOUS GROWTH
00:16:07PLAN FOR THE OILPATCH. >> WE ARE DETERMINED TO MAKE THE
00:16:10MOST OF THE OPPORTUNITIES BEFORE
00:16:12US AND TO DELIVER ON OUR AMBITION TO DOUBLE ALBERTA'S OIL
00:16:15PRODUCTION. >> Reporter: THE PROVINCE AND
00:16:18INDUSTRY ARE PUSHING FOR THE SAME SOLUTION -- KNOWN AS TREAT
00:16:21AND RELEASE.
00:16:23ESSENTIALLY, USE TECHNOLOGY TO
00:16:27FILTER AND TO CLEAN UP THE WATER, AND THEN POUR IT BACK INTO THE
00:16:30ATHABASCA RIVER.
00:16:34FOR LINY HANSON, ATHABASCA HAS
00:16:35ALWAYS BEEN A PART OF HIS LIFE.
00:16:39>> THIS RIVER HOUSES A LOT OF WILDLIFE.
00:16:42>> Reporter:FOR 33 YEARS HE WORKED IN THE OILSANDS.
00:16:44AND NOW IN RETIREMENT IS A TOUR GUIDE.
00:16:48>> I THINK THAT IT'S A GREAT IDEA AND I HAVE SEEN WHAT THEY DO AND HOW THEY DO IT AND I THINK THAT IT'S A REALLY GOOD
00:16:51PROCESS.
00:16:54>> Reporter: THERE IS SO MUCH BITUMEN IN THE AREA, INCLUDING
00:16:57ON RIVERBANKS, THAT THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO NATURALLY BE
00:16:59SOME OIL IN THE RIVER.
00:17:04TREATED WATER FOR HIM IS NO CONCERN. >> IT'S GOING TO BE CLEANER THAN THE WATER THAT IS HERE.
00:17:07>> THE TREAT AND RELEASE DISCUSSION IS WHITE HOT IN THIS REGION.
00:17:10>> Reporter: IT'S ALSO A NON-STARTER, SAYS THIS MÉTIS
00:17:12LEADER.
00:17:15HE'S PART OF A COMPANY THAT AIMS TO TREAT TAILINGS PONDS BUT THE WATER WOULD THEN BE REUSED AND
00:17:18NOT DISCHARGED.
00:17:21>> LIVING IN THE HEART OF THE
00:17:28OILSANDS, WE HAVE HAD GENERATIONAL TRAUMA ASSOCIATED WITH WATER.
00:17:32RELEASE IS NOT SOMETHING THAT MY OWNERSHIP AND MY LEADERSHIP AND
00:17:34MY COMMUNITY COULD EVER SUPPORT.
00:17:39>> TAILINGS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A SIGNIFICANT CONCERN OF OURS. >> Reporter: IF ANYTHING, THIS FIRST NATION'S CHIEF WANTS
00:17:42OILSANDS DEVELOPMENT TO SLOW
00:17:43DOWN, NOT SPEED UP.
00:17:47>> DOUBLING MEANS DOUBLING THE
00:17:52SIZE OF TAILINGS POND TODAY. AND IT MEANS
00:17:56DOUBLING THE AMOUNT OF WATER DRAW AND DOUBLING THE AMOUNT OF EMISSIONS SO DOUBLING THE PROBLEM IS WHAT WE SEE.
00:17:59>> Reporter: THE PROSPECT OF THE
00:18:01TAILINGS WATER BEING TREATED AND RELEASED BACK INTO THE RIVER IS A THREAT,
00:18:05SHE SAYS, TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN HER COMMUNITY. TAILINGS HOLD VAST AMOUNTS OF SALT, HEAVY METALS AND
00:18:08HYDROCARBONS.
00:18:12A RISK THAT SHE SAYS FROM HUMAN
00:18:13HEALTH TO AQUATIC LIFE.
00:18:16>> IT IS A SITUATION OF ENVIRONMENTAL RACISM.
00:18:19WE OFTEN SAY, YOU KNOW, IF THE RIVERS
00:18:23FLEW IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION TO NON-INDIGENOUS COMMUNITIES,
00:18:27WOULD THINGS BE LIKE THIS? >> Reporter: HER COMMUNITY HAS
00:18:30BEEN INVOLVED IN TALKS WITH GOVERNMENT AND INDUSTRY ABOUT
00:18:33THIS PROBLEM FOR MANY YEARS. BUT SHE NOW FEELS POLITICAL
00:18:36PRESSURE TO ACT. >> IT'S GOING TO TAKE AS LONG AS
00:18:39IT TAKES TO DEVELOP STRONG REGULATIONS, TO PROTECT WHAT
00:18:43MATTERS MOST TO YOUR NATION. AND NOW IT'S LIKE HURRY UP, GET IT DONE.
00:18:47>> Reporter: THE OILSANDS IS THE ONLY INDUSTRY IN THE COUNTRY THAT IS NOT ALLOWED TO RELEASE
00:18:51TREATED WATER. A COMPLETE BAN FOR THIS ONE
00:18:53SECTOR. >> WE CANNOT SAY TO INDUSTRY
00:18:57THAT WE WANT YOU TO DOUBLE PRODUCTION AND THEN NOT GIVE
00:19:00THEM THE TOOLS TO BE ABLE TO DO PROPER TREAT AND RELEASE. >> Reporter: THE ALBERTA
00:19:03GOVERNMENT IS READY TO MOVE. IT NEEDS OTTAWA'S HELP THOUGH,
00:19:07SINCE THE WATERWAYS FALL UNDER FEDERAL JURISDICTION.
00:19:11>> WE CAN'T ALLOW TO GO ANYMORE TIME. THEY ARE AT CAPACITY. >> Reporter: THE COMPANIES SAY
00:19:14THEY HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY AND THE
00:19:16EXPERTISE TO TREAT THE TAILINGS.
00:19:19WHAT THEY NEED IS REGULATIONS SO THEY KNOW WHAT STANDARDS HAVE TO
00:19:22BE REACHED IN ORDER FOR THE WATER TO BE RELEASED BACK INTO THE RIVER.
00:19:26VARIOUS TECHNOLOGIES ARE BEING TESTED AND DEVELOPED, WHICH
00:19:30SCIENTISTS HAVE SAID THAT ARE PROMISING. VARIOUS AIR AND WATER MONITORING
00:19:32PROGRAMMES ARE ALREADY IN PLACE.
00:19:36>> IF WE TAKE THESE ELEMENTS TOGETHER, WE THINK THAT GIVES CONFIDENCE THAT A TREATMENT
00:19:39TECHNOLOGY IS EFFECTIVE AND ENVIRONMENTALLY PROTECTIVE AND
00:19:43CAPABLE OF DELIVERING LONG-TERM RESULTS.
00:19:46>> WE HAVE SOME EXPERTS -- >> Reporter: PART OF THEIR PUSH IS THE NEED TO CLEAN UP THE
00:19:49LAND.
00:19:50>> AND THESE TAILINGS FACILITIES
00:19:53ARE NOT MEANT TO BE PERMANENT PARTS OF THE LANDSCAPE IN THE
00:19:55REGION.
00:19:58WE HAVE FULL INTENTIONS OF ACTUALLY TURNING THOSE TAILINGS
00:20:02PONDS INTO RECLAIMED SITES. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE LOOKING FOR
00:20:06THAT TREAT AND RELEASE. >> Reporter: BY THE END OF THE YEAR THE ALBERTA GOVERNMENT
00:20:09PLANS TO LAY OUT EXACTLY WHAT QUALITY STANDARDS HAVE TO BE MET
00:20:12FOR THE WATER TO BE RELEASED.
00:20:16THEN IT'S UP TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO ADOPT THOSE REGULATIONS, SUGGEST CHANGES, OR
00:20:19KEEP THE BAN IN PLACE.
00:20:21FOR NOW OTTAWA IS TIGHT-LIPPED. THE FEDERAL ENVIRONMENT MINISTER
00:20:25REFUSED INTERVIEW REQUESTS. THE DEPARTMENT WOULDN'T PROVIDE
00:20:28ANY TIMELINE ON A DECISION.
00:20:30THE NATURAL RESOURCES MINISTER WOULDN'T PROVIDE ANY SPECIFICS
00:20:32EITHER. >> WE WILL DO THE WORK TO MAKE
00:20:36SURE THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT REGULATIONS WITH RESPECT TO
00:20:39TAILINGS PONDS. >> Reporter: THERE'S NO CLEAR
00:20:42DIRECTION FROM WHAT OTTAWA WILL DO AS THE PRESSURE CONTINUES TO BUILD.
00:20:46>> THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT REALLY NEEDS TO TAKE THESE THINGS SERIOUSLY.
00:20:50>> THE SOLUTION ISN'T TO JUST KEEP DOING NOTHING AND PUT OUR
00:20:51HEAD IN THE SAND.
00:20:54THE SOLUTION IS TO PROVE OUT THE SCIENCE AND THAT CAN BE DONE.
00:20:57WE'RE VERY INNOVATIVE PEOPLE.
00:21:00>> Erica: AND THE ISSUE MAY EVENTUALLY END UP IN THE COURTS
00:21:02WITH THE ATHABASCA CHIPPEWAYAN
00:21:05FIRST NATIONS SAYING THAT IT'S READY TO BATTLE THE PROVINCIAL
00:21:08GOVERNMENT TO STOP MINING WASTEWATER FROM THE OILSANDS
00:21:12ENTERING ITS WATERSHED.
00:21:15>>> COMING UP, A NEWFOUNDLANDER RECEIVES A RANDOM PHONE CALL.
00:21:18>> HELLO. >> HEY, WHO'S THIS? >> OH.
00:21:21>> OH, MY -- PAUL? >> I THINK THAT YOU GOT THE
00:21:24WRONG -- >> I HAVE CHUBBY FINGERS. >> Erica: THEIR CHAT COMING UP
00:21:28NEXT IN OUR "MOMENT." (♪)
00:24:46>> Erica: THIS IS PAUL MATTHEWS AND HE LIVES IN BRIGUS,
00:24:47NEWFOUNDLAND.
00:24:52HE RECEIVED A CALL FROM AN UNFAMILIAR NUMBER AND WITHOUT THINKING TWICE, HE PICKED UP.
00:24:56ON THE OTHER END, THE CAST FROM A NEW SERIES CALLED "BLOW," FILMED IN HIS HOMETOWN.
00:25:00SO TONIGHT THEIR SPONTANEOUS CALL MAKES OUR "MOMENT."
00:25:03>> HELLO? >> HEY, WHO'S THIS? >> OH.
00:25:07>> PAUL?
00:25:11>> YOU SOUND SWEET BUT I THINK YOU GOT IT WRONG.
00:25:15>> I HAVE CHUBBY FINGERS AND I MUST HAVE PUT THE WRONG NUMBERS IN THERE.
00:25:18>> THE PHONE RANG AND I PICKED
00:25:20IT UP ABSENT MINDEDLY.
00:25:24AND JACK CONTACTS PEOPLE, AND SHE ENDED UP CALLING MY NUMBER.
00:25:28>> IT'S INTERESTING, I WAS LISTENING TO THE RADIO AND THEY
00:25:30HAD THIS LADY ON AND AS SORT OF A HOBBY SHE COLD CALLS PEOPLE.
00:25:34AND I'LL BE DAMNED IF TODAY I
00:25:37JUST PICKED UP THE PHONE AND IT
00:25:39IS YOU.
00:25:44>> THAT'S THE LONELY WOMAN WHO CALLS PEOPLE WHO IS CALLING YOU RIGHT NOW. >> I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED. >> WHAT ARE YOU DOING? >> CLEANING BLUEBERRIES.
00:25:47>> SHE WAS IN SOME WAY ASSOCIATED WITH "BLOW" FILMING IN BRIGUS.
00:25:50>> WE THOUGHT THAT WE'D CALL NEWFOUNDLAND AND SAY HELLO TO
00:25:52THE CAST.
00:25:56>> A TAX ON ALL OF YOU. [LAUGHTER]
00:25:59>> IN BRIGUS, YOU ARE WALKING DOWN THE ROAD AND YOU SAY HELLO TO WHOEVER YOU MEET.
00:26:02THAT'S JUST THE WAY THAT IT IS.
00:26:05>> LOVE YA', AND THANK YOU FOR PAINTING US A PICTURE. AND THIS WAS THE
00:26:09BEST WRONG NUMBER THAT I HAVE EVER CALLED. >> Erica: WELL, PAUL JOKED WITH OUR PRODUCER THAT HE MAY BE A BIT MORE RELUCTANT ABOUT ANSWERING THE PHONE IN THE
00:26:13FUTURE. IN FACT, HE IS CONSIDERING TO
00:26:17MIGHT EVEN GET RID OF HIS LANDLINE ALL TOGETHER.
00:26:20WHICH, GIVEN THE NUMBER OF SCAM
00:26:23CALLS THAT ARE HAPPENING THESE
00:26:26DAYS, IT MIGHT NOT BE SUCH A BAD IDEA, PAUL. >>> FROM ALL OF US AT "THE NATIONAL," THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US.
00:26:30I'M ERICA JOHNSON IN VANCOUVER. TAKE CARE.
00:26:31(♪)
00:26:35(♪)
00:30:20(♪) >> Erica: TONIGHT, ANOTHER DEADLY
00:30:23STRIKE ON A SAUDI AIRPORT JUST ONE DAY AFTER AN ATTACK ON A
00:30:26MAJOR PASSENGER TERMINAL.
00:30:31>> THIS IS A CONFLICT THAT HAS DEEP ROOTS AND IT'S BEEN REIGNITED.
00:30:35>> Erica:THE TERRIFYING MOMENTS AND THE ESCALATING VIOLENCE BETWEEN
00:30:39SAUDI ARABIA AND IRAN-BACKED
00:30:42HOUTHI REBELS. AND THE THREAT THAT MORE COUNTRIES COULD BE
00:30:45DRAGGED INTO THE CONFLICT.
00:30:48>>> PLUS, HURRICANE SIMON SLAMS INTO MEXICO'S PACIFIC COAST.
00:30:52>> WE DON'T TYPICALLY SEE A LOT OF HURRICANES IMPACTING THE