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00:02:02of hello everyone, welcome to the program and thank you for joining
00:02:05of in. this is politics today live on channel's television. i am
00:02:08sure for you here in our buja studio. let's begin
00:02:12tonight by letting you know that president
00:02:15directed the economic and financial crimes commission, the
00:02:18EFCC to
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00:02:24in of order freezing an account belonging to the state government. and a
00:02:28of of statement he personally issued on earlier today. President says he feels
00:02:31deeply embarrassed not by the FC EFCC's
00:02:36of exercise of his mandate backed by a court order for by the
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00:02:40of the agency's action. Accordingly, he says
00:02:44code, he has directed DFC to immediately
00:02:47of proceed to
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00:02:52instituted against your state government. In this
00:02:55regard, president says that the
00:02:59of directive to v or
00:03:01of court order became
00:03:02of important because uh very the action taken by
00:03:06institution of state, especially at the federal level is always
00:03:09credited to him as the president, even when he may
00:03:13not have had any prior knowledge of such
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00:03:22but aussion government and the governor, governor senator are
00:03:26delicate, they are not having it, they are not happy and they are not going down.
00:03:30keeping quiet, the
00:03:31state government has dragged the economic and
00:03:33of financial crimes commission EFCC before
00:03:36of the federal high court in Nabuja, the seeking of two billion
00:03:40naire in damages over the freezing of his federal
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00:03:49of the of the state government and the state accountant general are listed as plinties in the suit
00:03:53while the AfCC is chairman and force bank and named as
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00:03:58of in a the originating summons filed by legal team led by
00:04:01professor sin advocate of Nigeria, the
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00:04:07of determine whether the anti-graft agency acted within the law by directing
00:04:11the bank to place a post no debit
00:04:14of restriction on the states allocation account without first
00:04:18obtaining accord
00:04:23of order. It's a loaded program for you tonight to stick around with
00:04:27me because I'm going to be parding you with loads of. information before
00:04:31I get to let you uh see and hear what my
00:04:34of guest of will be discussing with me on the program tonight, but before we get into all of that,
00:04:38let's save you with some of your political rand up
00:04:40stories.
00:04:51The vice president, Kashim Shetima is commencing two-week leave
00:04:55said to be his first since being sworn into office, according
00:04:59to the statement by his
00:05:01of During the period the vice president will devote time to study,
00:05:04reflection and intellectual renewal as part
00:05:07of of efforts to strengthen his capacity for the continued service to the nation, the
00:05:11inspector general of police ( GTSU has directed officers and men the Nigeria
00:05:15Police Force to play active roles in shaping the national conversation on the
00:05:19proposed establishment of state police through informed
00:05:22engagement, objective analysis and public enlightenment.
00:05:26Speaking as a one day workshop on state police organized by the Nigeria Police
00:05:29Institute in Abuja. Mr. Dissu says the workshop is a timely platform
00:05:33for critical reflection on one of Nigeria's most significant security
00:05:37policy debates, stressing the need for police personnel to be well
00:05:41informed as discussion. on the proposed reform continue across
00:05:44the country, he explained that the establishment of state police is an idea the
00:05:48federal government which must be supported by all officers and men the
00:05:52force. for state governor and his edo state counterpart
00:05:55governor have led a massive mobilization of kugi and
00:05:59edo state indigens residents in oshin state in support the all
00:06:03progressive congress governorship candidates munirudin oyabamiji ahead
00:06:07the August 15th 2026 governorship election. speaking at the rally,
00:06:11governor Ododo urges: cogi indigens and other non-indigent
00:06:14residents in Ashron state to reciprocate the developmental
00:06:18strides of president bolamed sinubu by voting overwhelmingly for the
00:06:22APC governorship candidate in the election. a coalition of civil society groups
00:06:26under the umbrella of civil society organizations for good governance is asking
00:06:30Nigerians to unite against insecurity in order to ensure a
00:06:33safe, peaceful and prosperous Nigeria. addressing journalists in
00:06:37Abuja after a peaceful rally at the Unity fountain, the co-convenir the coalition
00:06:41Mr. Daniel C Mom says they will
00:06:43not allow members of opposition parties, they will not allow members of
00:06:47opposition parties to determine the sovereignty of Nigeria or derail
00:06:51the administration of President Bola Medinubu under any guys.
00:06:55The group, while applauding department of state services, the military and other security agencies
00:06:59insist that President Tilu is working tirelessly to end
00:07:02insecurity addition to improving the nation's economy. The Nigeria Democratic
00:07:06Congress says members the party who lost out in the last primary election must look at
00:07:10the bigger picture of a Nigeria that... for all and not a selective few as is
00:07:14currently being experienced in the country. speaking at the inauguration the committee in
00:07:18Abuja, the chairman professor pat Utomi appeal to all agreed party members to
00:07:22appear before the committee to make their case. the committee also has Mr. Buba
00:07:26Galadima as co-chair and the two party deputy national chairman
00:07:30as members amongst others. Justice Peter Lefu the Federal
00:07:34High Court in Abuja has declared Abdul Gani Arobo as the duly nominated
00:07:38candidate the All Progressive Congress for the OWS federal constituency
00:07:42House. Representatives election in Undo State. Delivering judgemts,
00:07:45Justice Lefu upheld Aurobo's claim that he emerged winner the APC
00:07:49primary while pulling the highest number of lawful votes cast across the
00:07:53constituency. The suit filed against the APC and the Independent National
00:07:57Electoral Commission INEc challenged the parties handling the outcome the
00:08:00primary election. After reviewing the evidence before the court, Justice
00:08:04Leeful held that the total votes recorded from the 23 wars in
00:08:07a federal constituency established arobo as the authentic
00:08:11winner the.
00:08:12gave exercise the Dalchi State Governor Bala Mohamed has warned newly appointed
00:08:16commissioners against misappropriating public funds, urging
00:08:20them to manage the state's resources prudently and channel them into projects
00:08:24and programs that will benefit the people. The governor stresses that
00:08:27their actions and conduct in office will be closely monitored to
00:08:31ensure accountability and transparency. Governor Mohammed warning
00:08:35who during the swearining ceremony of four newly appointed commissioners following
00:08:39their screening and confirmation by the Bauti State House of Assembly. that the
00:08:42appointments became necessary following the resignation of some political
00:08:45appointees seeking elective office ahead the 2027
00:08:49general
00:08:50elections.
00:09:00there you have it, you've been served with your political rund up
00:09:04stories. so let's also tell you that one man is in
00:09:08soup uh is retired officer the department of state
00:09:11services,
00:09:22earlier today before the federal high court in Abuja on terrorism
00:09:25related charges, prosecutors alleged that
00:09:29the retired DSS officer rendered support to
00:09:33the prescribed indigenous people the afra iPop
00:09:37by disseminating materials on social media
00:09:40joining the organization. and posting messages
00:09:44allegedly designed to encourage members the public to
00:09:48support its activities is kalam
00:09:52played not guilty to all four counts when they were read
00:09:56before justice Muhammad Umar. The prosecution told
00:09:59the court that the alleged offenses said to have been
00:10:03committed between 2025 and
00:10:062026 in Nabuja and Abbia State Controvins
00:10:10sections 13-2. 5 and 26 the
00:10:13terrorism prevention and prohibition act of 2022
00:10:17as well as the provisions the cyber crime act
00:10:21following this plee. the prosecution requested at tire days
00:10:25and asked that the defendant remain in custody, pending
00:10:28trial. Justice Mohammed Umar subsequently adjoined the case
00:10:32until October 29 for the commencement of trial and
00:10:36ordered that the defendant be remanded at the Kuje correctional
00:10:39center.
00:10:47Oh, then let's tell you about the situation with respect
00:10:51to uh the alleged federal. fake
00:10:55federal agency, so we saw today at the presidential
00:10:59villa where the chairman the independent and
00:11:02corrupt practices commission, the
00:11:05ICPC today submitted interim report to
00:11:09president on his investigation into the alleged
00:11:12ficticious presidential foreign investment promotion
00:11:15council, the PFRPC, they
00:11:19recommending the prosecution the eleged director
00:11:23general, rcpc chairman Musa
00:11:26aliu says uh that the president after
00:11:30meeting him part the recommendation made is the prosecution
00:11:34and is exactly 30 days after president director the
00:11:38anti-corruption agency to conduct a thorough
00:11:41investigation into the PFRPC. according
00:11:44to Alio preliminary findings review that ADME was never
00:11:48appointed by the for the government and that the are proported appointment
00:11:52letter get and other documentts to establish the
00:11:55agency were forched, take a
00:11:58listen,
00:12:05put found that no funds the federal
00:12:09government was approved or
00:12:12dispersed to the fake
00:12:15Pfipc/peec,
00:12:19and that we discovered that there was no
00:12:23any weaknesses. were found in the system
00:12:27the state house and
00:12:30CBN in
00:12:32our own investigation and also the fake
00:12:36appointment letter of
00:12:40matthew did not originate from the
00:12:43presidency and the
00:12:47ICPC discovered that
00:12:49I also
00:12:52created two additional f sitious government
00:12:56agencies, apart from the one that is known in the
00:13:00public domain, our investigation or ravel two
00:13:04other fake government
00:13:07agencies, namely
00:13:09FCT investment promotion agency was
00:13:13acronym FIFA and foreign investment
00:13:17promotion agency and public private
00:13:20partnership, people -
00:13:22pp and facilitate the
00:13:26creation the additional two fake agencies, he
00:13:30used forge legislative instruments,
00:13:33styles as enabling acts and using
00:13:37them to support opening of bank accounts,
00:13:41because we discovered that he has opened two bank accounts
00:13:45in a commercial bank which he went to
00:13:49use uh in this illegal activities,
00:13:53so based on this thing, like i said that we
00:13:56discovered that because the
00:14:00access he had to the former peac
00:14:04office,
00:14:06he now changed the name the
00:14:10fake agency from foreign investment promotion
00:14:14council to foreign invest to foreign
00:14:17intervention promotion council and he was trying
00:14:21to um um encrouch into the...
00:14:25of some
00:14:25agencies,
00:14:30there you have it, the chairman the ICPC speaking
00:14:34earlier today and some of what has become a
00:14:37major findings in the probe the anti-graft
00:14:40agency, but tonight we're going to also be
00:14:44dissecting what allegations, heavy one made by
00:14:47opposition forces with respect to the
00:14:51credentials that have now been made public, the release of
00:14:55education credentials and details the candidates that may be
00:14:59on the ballot on in 2027 election which is
00:15:02generated uh issues and debates by lot
00:15:06of nigerians displays transparency, constitutional
00:15:10eligibility and public accountability at the center and the
00:15:14heart of political discuss these days as we've seen the publication by
00:15:18INEC has now renewed attention on
00:15:21particularly about president who
00:15:25is he really, where does it come from, who are his
00:15:29parents, why, what are his educational
00:15:32credentials, why was it that he did not submit his primary,
00:15:36secondary school? why was it it was
00:15:39only the uh the controversial chicago state university
00:15:43certificate that was made available to anec and
00:15:46there a lot of questions there are those now had gone back to when he was
00:15:50governor what really happened himself did he
00:15:54forge any document opposition is been speaking and when we had this
00:15:58conversation the other day he got a bit
00:16:00ficy
00:16:02and and there are those who think that more light need to be shared nigerians
00:16:06need explanations name Nigerians need
00:16:08understanding that for those who will govern us in this
00:16:12country, there's a need for transparency and
00:16:15accountability. So tonight, one man that has stood in the court and
00:16:19defended president Bolatunobu and not only at this time
00:16:22but uh before the 2023 election when this
00:16:26was major issue will be joining me tonight on the program and the
00:16:30man we came on the program the last time we laid the allegation
00:16:34is in fact in as the lawyer in this matter. is Mr.
00:16:38Kalu Kalu who is a lawyer and member the ADC is live
00:16:42virtually for us on the program, but I will be having on the program
00:16:46tonight, Mr. Ogala, who is a senior advocate
00:16:49of Nigeria and a former legal
00:16:51advisor to the APC, national legal
00:16:55advisor to the APC uh is sitting in our Legos
00:16:59Studio tonight, thank you, let us seek and thank you
00:17:02Mr. for joining us tonight, thank you very much, it's my pleasure to be
00:17:06here. for having me again today, yeah uh, let
00:17:10us say before I come to you, let us for about two
00:17:14minutes or there about listen to the allegations,
00:17:18because uh the opposition think that your
00:17:21principal and president bolatinu
00:17:24uh is is is been accused of
00:17:27forgery, he's been accused of lacking academic
00:17:31credentials, he's been accused of so many other things, but I'm not the
00:17:35one laying the allegation, let me... allow the man who came on
00:17:39this program and renewed the credential hostility
00:17:43and controversy of 2022 or many many years ago and
00:17:47brought it back to the fambana. Mr. Kalukalu, the man
00:17:51that will respond to you who has stood for president to
00:17:55defend him is here on the program, can you lay before him those
00:17:58allegations and let Nigerians be able to understand a decent and
00:18:02a civil conversation tonight? So
00:18:06we have. beyond the issue of allegation and
00:18:09accusation, it is now an established
00:18:13fact that b does not
00:18:16have a primary school certificate and secondary school
00:18:20certificate. i don't know why we are overflogging this
00:18:23issue, it's a very simple thing, if he says it's an
00:18:27allegation, if he says is is
00:18:30accusation, let him come out and tell
00:18:34nigerians, this is my primary school certificate, this is my this
00:18:37certificate
00:18:41this will stop, this thing started in
00:18:441999 by late legal
00:18:48icon, he
00:18:52took this matter off, see the matter rose to the supreme
00:18:55court and it was dismissed on gr of technicality and nothing
00:18:59else, in 2023 the same issue
00:19:03came up when when stood for
00:19:07for the presidential election for 2023 and today in
00:19:102020 26 it has resurfaced
00:19:13again, isn't not is it not is not
00:19:17high time mr president came out
00:19:19and let nigerians know this is what this
00:19:21is who i am, this is
00:19:23my problem certificate, this is secondary
00:19:25certificate, settle this issue
00:19:28once and for all, mr. show, in
00:19:321999, in
00:19:351999 the
00:19:48was looted and his
00:19:51his property certificates got missing mean in his deposition in 19 in
00:19:551999 and in the
00:19:59affed samid he submitted heis from
00:20:02c001 he deposed that he
00:20:06attended St. Paul's primary
00:20:09school ibadon, which is
00:20:12false, you also the post that he
00:20:15attended college, which is
00:20:18false, also in the sam that he
00:20:21attended university of
00:20:24chicago, university of chicago, which is false, this one is
00:20:28not even chicago university, in the same form, he he
00:20:31depored that he attended Chicago State University, I
00:20:35mean University of Chicago. on the same form that he
00:20:38attended university of
00:20:41chicago, all these allegations, all
00:20:44these interest in his from
00:20:47cf001 in 1999. don't have to be
00:20:50force in 2002,
00:20:532022 when when he submitted
00:20:56his from
00:20:58eight, the the column for
00:21:02primary school vacant, the column for secondary school
00:21:05vacant, then the the last column for for for the university
00:21:09attended he put univers of
00:21:12chicago and the certificate he got from
00:21:16there and when there was inquire a disc
00:21:20in university of chicago startling
00:21:23revelation was made, he claimed he
00:21:27attended government college lagus and graduated in
00:21:301970 when indeed government college lagos was
00:21:34established in 1974, four years after
00:21:38b claimed that he graduated from government college
00:21:41legos
00:21:42in the same documents that were released
00:21:46by chicago state university we also found that
00:21:51he submitted to state university
00:21:54university of cambridge certificate
00:21:58that
00:22:01nigerians, this is
00:22:03the time
00:22:06should put up resignation and leave
00:22:10the seats for why
00:22:12are we repeating
00:22:13this issue
00:22:15mr kallu yeah let me let's allow uh
00:22:19the l stick to respond to what you've
00:22:22said, Nigerians
00:22:25will want to be educated and know who
00:22:29exactly is your principal and their allegations,
00:22:33there are those who say that St. Paul, St. Paul, our
00:22:36lawyer 1958 to
00:22:381964,
00:22:42is some there's cloud of uncertainty
00:22:46and lack of clarity.
00:22:50government college ibadon explanation
00:22:53needed uh the Richard Darley College
00:22:57explanation University of Chicago explanation in the Chicago
00:23:00State University at Anderson accounting firm as
00:23:04a worker there and Delo
00:23:08asking herself lot questions are being
00:23:11asked about who exactly the identity the
00:23:15profile the education background the
00:23:19historical and of your principal all this question makes
00:23:23a lot of people wonder who is this man, is he a
00:23:26mysterious personality
00:23:28or what? can you please educate Nigerians tonight about this
00:23:30man? um, for me, I
00:23:34think I will rather not be distracted from the main
00:23:38focus the issue by going into
00:23:42extranous matters like you have listed, between
00:23:461999 and 2003, there
00:23:50had been several litigation on this matter and the
00:23:53courts have ruled, the courts, i say
00:23:57again have ruled and taken it from here, the
00:24:01man would just spoke at length here is our regular
00:24:04customer, when i says our regular customer, he is
00:24:08regular customer in bringing this kind of
00:24:11actions, i am embarrassed and
00:24:14surprised that a lawyer is coming national
00:24:18television and categorical statements
00:24:22that documents have forged that somebody
00:24:25lied when the courts have not so
00:24:28determined and let me say this as we speak
00:24:32today kalukalu through has filed
00:24:35another action in the high court in federal court
00:24:38kano on this same issue where he
00:24:42has joined the university of chicago I do not
00:24:46know and or rather not say I know as fact. that is
00:24:50most unethical for a lawyer to come
00:24:54national television to be discussing matter
00:24:58where is council? these are exactly the
00:25:01questions he has asked and we are again defending,
00:25:05but before now, in 2022,
00:25:09this same mr. kalu that is speaking here
00:25:13filed five actions,
00:25:17five in the name of um action
00:25:20alliance
00:25:21i think against INEc,
00:25:24bolatinu, APC, and Sundray matter
00:25:28persons on this same issue, all five matters
00:25:32were dismissed, one went as far as the court of appeal
00:25:35and it was also dismissed, I handle those matters
00:25:39and he knows what we talk about, so if he
00:25:43has issues, he is a lawyer, he should
00:25:47go and prove his issues, in courts,
00:25:51his case is pending on this issue
00:25:55in the federal court cano where he has joined
00:25:58even the he has joined the university Chicago.
00:26:02state university in the US, the are defenders in his
00:26:06suit by him, so let him wait for
00:26:10the court to determine the faith of his suit. we have joined
00:26:14issues with him, so it will not be proper for me to come and
00:26:18start discussing what is before the court, like he
00:26:21has elected to do, but what does the
00:26:24constitution say about qualification for office? because
00:26:28hear things like who are his parents, who is his father? Who is
00:26:32his mother, who is his sister, who is his brother? Is he a
00:26:36Nigeria? The answer is yes, unless
00:26:40otherwise proven or determined through
00:26:44a judicial process. Is it qualified to
00:26:48run for presidency? Agewise,
00:26:52yes, by constitutional
00:26:54provisions. Does he have the minimum
00:26:58educational qualification as prescribed by the
00:27:01constitution, which? which simply says
00:27:04educated up to school sat level
00:27:07and even interpreting the interpretation section
00:27:11in interpreting what constitutes school level
00:27:15says primary six ability to
00:27:18read and write a man says
00:27:22i have a degree is sitting
00:27:26here i a lawyer i a senior advocate
00:27:30you asking as a senior advocate to prove if I
00:27:34a lawyer, you want to know which primary school I attended, which secondary
00:27:37school I attended, which uh, private lesson I
00:27:41attended, where I did my A levels, where I did my
00:27:45um vacation tutorial school and all of
00:27:48that, what is our stake here
00:27:51is as lawyers, let us
00:27:55face the constitution, what the constitution
00:27:59says, and it is simple that, "you
00:28:02must be educated up to school certificate level. Mr.
00:28:06Karlo has made several, several, he has said several
00:28:10things here, which in my opinion could even be
00:28:13defaratory, and some of it could even, I mean
00:28:17beyone ethical of a lawyer, in one the matters he
00:28:21did, one them, the court
00:28:24even, and I think maybe so perhaps maybe we need
00:28:28to start learning few things from here. One the matters, the
00:28:31court not..." only dismissed his matter, the court asked
00:28:35him to
00:28:38personally pay cost for even
00:28:42bringing such frivolous matter
00:28:45on the same issues we are discussing three years
00:28:49after the same issues, the same
00:28:53issues on the same issue you have
00:28:56presented before a federal high court in cano
00:29:00that is still pending in the name of a certain
00:29:03i can't remember the name the NGO now which
00:29:07is which has his office in abah
00:29:11in abayes abier state and um his
00:29:14office in abuja and the matter is filed in
00:29:18kano we have joined issues on that we have filed our
00:29:22defense we have filed our premier so we will leave that for the court
00:29:26to determine this new action let me let me let me jump in here let
00:29:30me jump in here uh mr
00:29:32ogola for this sake of transparency and accountability, because we are talking
00:29:36about public office here, and it's not about the your
00:29:40principal, this is not a selfish issue, if he
00:29:43was about him and is a private thing for
00:29:47him, you rather not come out, because but this is for the
00:29:51interest the public and the publics and the Nigerian people,
00:29:55that's why
00:29:56it is important, can you tell us
00:29:58what is important, can you give us, yeah, can you give? give
00:30:02us very brief maybe in one sentence, what
00:30:06schools did your principal
00:30:09attend? is it not ridiculous you asking me such
00:30:12questions? what schools he attended? do i know what
00:30:16schools you attended? do you know which schools i attended and you are saying my
00:30:20principal? i can if you if you ask me i can tell you you cannot
00:30:24even ask and then you go and ask him you ask
00:30:28him then ask him
00:30:32yes. ask you, what what school did you attend?
00:30:35will you be offended? is my prerogative to provide
00:30:39that information? is my prerogative, but because you are not
00:30:43a, because you are not a public officer, a public off
00:30:47even if i'm
00:30:47a public officer is my prerogative. the issue here we
00:30:51are an election, the issue is what is in the
00:30:55inec form that was filled, did
00:30:59is there?