Nigeria: Channels TV

20261011 07:00 UTC · 00:30:59 · 526 transcript segments · GDELT Visual Explorer · plain-text transcript · Event Map

Film strip

One frame every 4 seconds, 465 in all. Click a frame to jump the transcript to that moment, or click a line of the transcript to see what was on screen while it was said. Served from apprised.news, so it loads behind proxies that block Google Cloud Storage.

00:00:00
00:00:04
00:00:08
00:00:12
00:00:16
00:00:20
00:00:24
00:00:28
00:00:32
00:00:36
00:00:40
00:00:44
00:00:48
00:00:52
00:00:56
00:01:00
00:01:04
00:01:08
00:01:12
00:01:16
00:01:20
00:01:24
00:01:28
00:01:32
00:01:36
00:01:40
00:01:44
00:01:48
00:01:52
00:01:56
00:02:00
00:02:04
00:02:08
00:02:12
00:02:16
00:02:20
00:02:24
00:02:28
00:02:32
00:02:36
00:02:40
00:02:44
00:02:48
00:02:52
00:02:56
00:03:00
00:03:04
00:03:08
00:03:12
00:03:16
00:03:20
00:03:24
00:03:28
00:03:32
00:03:36
00:03:40
00:03:44
00:03:48
00:03:52
00:03:56
00:04:00
00:04:04
00:04:08
00:04:12
00:04:16
00:04:20
00:04:24
00:04:28
00:04:32
00:04:36
00:04:40
00:04:44
00:04:48
00:04:52
00:04:56
00:05:00
00:05:04
00:05:08
00:05:12
00:05:16
00:05:20
00:05:24
00:05:28
00:05:32
00:05:36
00:05:40
00:05:44
00:05:48
00:05:52
00:05:56
00:06:00
00:06:04
00:06:08
00:06:12
00:06:16
00:06:20
00:06:24
00:06:28
00:06:32
00:06:36
00:06:40
00:06:44
00:06:48
00:06:52
00:06:56
00:07:00
00:07:04
00:07:08
00:07:12
00:07:16
00:07:20
00:07:24
00:07:28
00:07:32
00:07:36
00:07:40
00:07:44
00:07:48
00:07:52
00:07:56
00:08:00
00:08:04
00:08:08
00:08:12
00:08:16
00:08:20
00:08:24
00:08:28
00:08:32
00:08:36
00:08:40
00:08:44
00:08:48
00:08:52
00:08:56
00:09:00
00:09:04
00:09:08
00:09:12
00:09:16
00:09:20
00:09:24
00:09:28
00:09:32
00:09:36
00:09:40
00:09:44
00:09:48
00:09:52
00:09:56
00:10:00
00:10:04
00:10:08
00:10:12
00:10:16
00:10:20
00:10:24
00:10:28
00:10:32
00:10:36
00:10:40
00:10:44
00:10:48
00:10:52
00:10:56
00:11:00
00:11:04
00:11:08
00:11:12
00:11:16
00:11:20
00:11:24
00:11:28
00:11:32
00:11:36
00:11:40
00:11:44
00:11:48
00:11:52
00:11:56
00:12:00
00:12:04
00:12:08
00:12:12
00:12:16
00:12:20
00:12:24
00:12:28
00:12:32
00:12:36
00:12:40
00:12:44
00:12:48
00:12:52
00:12:56
00:13:00
00:13:04
00:13:08
00:13:12
00:13:16
00:13:20
00:13:24
00:13:28
00:13:32
00:13:36
00:13:40
00:13:44
00:13:48
00:13:52
00:13:56
00:14:00
00:14:04
00:14:08
00:14:12
00:14:16
00:14:20
00:14:24
00:14:28
00:14:32
00:14:36
00:14:40
00:14:44
00:14:48
00:14:52
00:14:56
00:15:00
00:15:04
00:15:08
00:15:12
00:15:16
00:15:20
00:15:24
00:15:28
00:15:32
00:15:36
00:15:40
00:15:44
00:15:48
00:15:52
00:15:56
00:16:00
00:16:04
00:16:08
00:16:12
00:16:16
00:16:20
00:16:24
00:16:28
00:16:32
00:16:36
00:16:40
00:16:44
00:16:48
00:16:52
00:16:56
00:17:00
00:17:04
00:17:08
00:17:12
00:17:16
00:17:20
00:17:24
00:17:28
00:17:32
00:17:36
00:17:40
00:17:44
00:17:48
00:17:52
00:17:56
00:18:00
00:18:04
00:18:08
00:18:12
00:18:16
00:18:20
00:18:24
00:18:28
00:18:32
00:18:36
00:18:40
00:18:44
00:18:48
00:18:52
00:18:56
00:19:00
00:19:04
00:19:08
00:19:12
00:19:16
00:19:20
00:19:24
00:19:28
00:19:32
00:19:36
00:19:40
00:19:44
00:19:48
00:19:52
00:19:56
00:20:00
00:20:04
00:20:08
00:20:12
00:20:16
00:20:20
00:20:24
00:20:28
00:20:32
00:20:36
00:20:40
00:20:44
00:20:48
00:20:52
00:20:56
00:21:00
00:21:04
00:21:08
00:21:12
00:21:16
00:21:20
00:21:24
00:21:28
00:21:32
00:21:36
00:21:40
00:21:44
00:21:48
00:21:52
00:21:56
00:22:00
00:22:04
00:22:08
00:22:12
00:22:16
00:22:20
00:22:24
00:22:28
00:22:32
00:22:36
00:22:40
00:22:44
00:22:48
00:22:52
00:22:56
00:23:00
00:23:04
00:23:08
00:23:12
00:23:16
00:23:20
00:23:24
00:23:28
00:23:32
00:23:36
00:23:40
00:23:44
00:23:48
00:23:52
00:23:56
00:24:00
00:24:04
00:24:08
00:24:12
00:24:16
00:24:20
00:24:24
00:24:28
00:24:32
00:24:36
00:24:40
00:24:44
00:24:48
00:24:52
00:24:56
00:25:00
00:25:04
00:25:08
00:25:12
00:25:16
00:25:20
00:25:24
00:25:28
00:25:32
00:25:36
00:25:40
00:25:44
00:25:48
00:25:52
00:25:56
00:26:00
00:26:04
00:26:08
00:26:12
00:26:16
00:26:20
00:26:24
00:26:28
00:26:32
00:26:36
00:26:40
00:26:44
00:26:48
00:26:52
00:26:56
00:27:00
00:27:04
00:27:08
00:27:12
00:27:16
00:27:20
00:27:24
00:27:28
00:27:32
00:27:36
00:27:40
00:27:44
00:27:48
00:27:52
00:27:56
00:28:00
00:28:04
00:28:08
00:28:12
00:28:16
00:28:20
00:28:24
00:28:28
00:28:32
00:28:36
00:28:40
00:28:44
00:28:48
00:28:52
00:28:56
00:29:00
00:29:04
00:29:08
00:29:12
00:29:16
00:29:20
00:29:24
00:29:28
00:29:32
00:29:36
00:29:40
00:29:44
00:29:48
00:29:52
00:29:56
00:30:00
00:30:04
00:30:08
00:30:12
00:30:16
00:30:20
00:30:24
00:30:28
00:30:32
00:30:36
00:30:40
00:30:44
00:30:48
00:30:52
00:30:56

Transcript

Google Speech-to-Text API Automatic Transcription (Chirp). Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a quotation record.

00:00:19of
00:00:21of of
00:00:25of
00:00:42of suspend NYSC long distance deployments
00:00:46for now, life loss cannot be
00:00:52of restored, no certificate, no slogan of national
00:00:55integration, no administrative convenience can bring
00:00:58back a single
00:01:01of soul, that is why every serious society
00:01:04guards
00:01:05of lives jealously, that is how we defend our
00:01:08humanity by going over and above what is
00:01:12routine to protect what
00:01:14of is of irreplaceable. this is the lens with
00:01:18of which we must view the kidnapping of youth copers deployed
00:01:22from our state recently, and that has been happening for quite a
00:01:25while, they abducted somewhere in nemostate while in
00:01:29transit. their primary place of assignment,
00:01:32young Nigerians in their early 20s, carrying color up
00:01:36letters, carrying their parents hope and their own
00:01:39aspirations, but rudely taken by
00:01:43government on the same road we
00:01:45of mandated them to travel, because Nigeria
00:01:49of summoned them. This is not new, and that is why it
00:01:52is becoming even more of a worry,
00:01:56of daming one. We have seen it before in 2020.
00:02:00eight aquibon graduates on their way to shokoto for
00:02:04orientation were kidnapped in zanfara and spent weeks in
00:02:08captivity. in 2022, coppers from ananbra were
00:02:11attacked in the
00:02:12of northwest corridor. in 2021, coppers from
00:02:16Undo, heading to the north were
00:02:18of abducted and striked on the highway. the
00:02:22of pattern is clear, the danger is documented and the fear is
00:02:25real, there is apprehension in every home where a copper
00:02:29leaves. ending to motor park in Nigeria to answer
00:02:33the call
00:02:33of the federal government. The truth is that in today's Nigeria
00:02:37there is sterol on every long distance road,
00:02:41all the fear of it, you cannot compare what
00:02:45of you of cannot protect. Road travel in Nigeria
00:02:49today is a gamble with
00:02:51of death. For the most part,
00:02:53the federal government mandate a young citizen to travel 800
00:02:57kilometers across three geopolitical zones. by
00:03:00roll to
00:03:02of fulfill compulsory deployment, then the
00:03:05federal government must assume the sacred
00:03:09of moral a duty to guarantee that citizen safety. is
00:03:13as simple as that. if the federal
00:03:16government cannot guarantee that security, then the federal government
00:03:19has lost the moral right to compel the
00:03:23journey to continue to force long
00:03:27distance deployments under present institute. authority
00:03:30is inimical to the santity of human
00:03:34life, and that is why we say today that the federal government
00:03:38should
00:03:39of suspend long distance NYSC deployment at
00:03:43least for now.
00:03:45now having said that, let us also comment the
00:03:48of recent board move by the government to
00:03:51of reform the entire NYC. in June earlier this
00:03:54year, the federal executive council approved the
00:03:57of biggest overhold
00:03:58of the scheme system. a technology
00:04:02of driven call up,
00:04:04of a six week orientation, skill based posting align to
00:04:07graduate field of experience, a
00:04:10a of civilian director general, and most importantly risk
00:04:14sensitive deployment. this is visionary and long
00:04:18over deal, and we comment the government for doing this, it shows that the
00:04:22government is actually listening, but
00:04:25a reform that talks about risk sensitive deployment
00:04:29without fixing the most dangerous path, that is the long
00:04:33unprotected road travel to get to that deployment is
00:04:37of incomplete.
00:04:38it protects the destination but ignores the
00:04:41journey, and it is on the journey that our children are
00:04:45being kidnapped. if the reform is truly to be
00:04:49investment in our greatest asset, the young people,
00:04:53as minister ay said, then
00:04:57the security of travel must be, at the heart of
00:05:01it, not a foot not. so to
00:05:04conclude, what must be done? number one, suspend
00:05:08all long distance
00:05:09of deployments for now, meanwile in... meant the
00:05:13risk sensiting deployment principle already approved by
00:05:16f. for the next two service years deploy copers
00:05:20within their geopolitical zones so that we
00:05:24can save lives. proximity is
00:05:27security. number two, make same travelle a
00:05:31call pillar the reform the
00:05:33HMYC. act amendment now before the attorney
00:05:37general the federation must include a statutory obligation
00:05:41for save transport. station, no more
00:05:44loan, unprotected road journeys, there should be
00:05:48centralized security escorted convoys or
00:05:52fully tracked charter busis and where
00:05:55distances are extreme subsidized air or
00:05:59rail passage should be mandatory. this
00:06:03is the missing piece the welfare package for coppers.
00:06:07number three, there should be rescue
00:06:10first and then reform. "the first test the new reform
00:06:14spirit is to bring those or your couples home
00:06:17alive. the NYC was created to build
00:06:21national unity. unity cannot be built on the
00:06:25coughings of our young people. if you cannot protect them on
00:06:29the road, let us not deploy them far. let them
00:06:33serve their own alive, save
00:06:37and productive, because life lost
00:06:40cannot be restored.
00:06:52back to inside sources uh, today I'm leading the show with a
00:06:55conversation with the presidential candidate the social
00:06:58democratic party is been here before uh somebody that has
00:07:02been going out meeting the real people in my view, I
00:07:06wanted to have a conversation with him in terms the kind of
00:07:10experiences that is having, what are the people? saying regarding the
00:07:132027 presidential election and few other things
00:07:16so i like to welcome back to inside sources prince
00:07:19ad praise good to see
00:07:23you again good to see you here and may god bless nigeria yes
00:07:27amen so so uh let's start from the kind of
00:07:30engagement that i observed that you've been having i
00:07:33remember that when the president went
00:07:36to uh i think it was uh jos
00:07:40last yes yes yeah uh and he stopped at the
00:07:44airport, you went further to meet the
00:07:47people, other places, exactly, now, but I've also
00:07:51noticed that you are, you have also been moving around, you
00:07:54know, uh, trying to have engagement with
00:07:58the real people, but I wanted to ask you
00:08:00that, in your view, do you
00:08:04think those people are really ready to come
00:08:07out uh, to vote, compared to
00:08:11what we normally have that you have quite a few people who
00:08:14are susceptible to to to
00:08:17being uh,
00:08:19you know, quote and quote, vote b,
00:08:22you know, 5,00 n, you, is your
00:08:26engagement, does it include the the
00:08:30people in the middle class, or I like to tell us what is different
00:08:33in the way that you are doing politics in your whole articulation, because
00:08:37I, I observe quite a few
00:08:40differences, first,
00:08:43because I am not just interested in civilian
00:08:47rule, I'm interested in democracy,
00:08:51and the prefix to democracy is demo, the people,
00:08:55yeah, and what is lacking in Nigeria
00:08:59is the participation the people, the people of
00:09:03Nigeria don't live in the same country as people
00:09:07in power, and when you talk the middle
00:09:10class, if you calculate - economy will have
00:09:14the econometrics the excluded
00:09:17middle, that is why our economy doesn't work, there's no middle class
00:09:21anymore, so it's the econometrics the excluded
00:09:23middle, so and to get the excluded
00:09:27middle to be
00:09:30included, you need to
00:09:33get the people themselves who are the baseline people, yeah,
00:09:37to be interested in the politics,
00:09:40now I don't want to go back. to f in history,
00:09:44even our independence struggle was
00:09:47elitist, majority the people in the
00:09:50communities, the villages just thought, okay, the
00:09:54educated people, the British have
00:09:57issues, and there was no much difference between the
00:10:01two, and it's not like the mau movement
00:10:05of Kenya, it's not like the Southern African serious
00:10:08battles where in the fight for independence
00:10:12you come you will have lost a son or daughter, you have had an
00:10:16uncle went to prison, you will have had running battles in your
00:10:19community,
00:10:21so someone in order um...
00:10:25or half year just knows that oh they've got independence and the
00:10:29white man is living and some black folks are taking over taking over and you
00:10:33jack down and green white green up and then over time
00:10:37there's no difference in their lives so they don't live in that country they live in
00:10:41Nigeria as geographical location
00:10:44for the struggle their biology I have
00:10:48to feed I have to feed my family I have to defend myself
00:10:52I have to run away from bandits I have have to have
00:10:56to have sustainance over my head, i'm doing
00:10:59all of this on my own occasionally, if there
00:11:03something useful in my community,
00:11:05the big man will come, codon us off and send us
00:11:08away, or as the present leadership is doing
00:11:11nigeria, they will send bandits to shase you away, the government will not
00:11:15come and negotiate with you anymore, say we found these minerals in your
00:11:19place, we want to come and exploit you, what can we do for you, they will not do that, the
00:11:23forgot about the mining act, forgot about they just send all
00:11:27these people and pretend that they don't know who they are, chase you away and they start to steal out the
00:11:30material, so on the politics
00:11:34is the is the ultimate art
00:11:38of elite arrival, when you
00:11:41want to announce yourself that you are the apex the elite, you
00:11:45just gather resources and say i'm running for a big
00:11:48office uh hire virtually everybody almost
00:11:52everybody flying with you, you are paying their way. you're buying their
00:11:56clothes, you're feeding them, so it's like a fan's
00:11:59club, the way all the empire we used to have it
00:12:02call, where you if you are
00:12:06wealthy in those days in Europa land, you could set up your
00:12:09own theater troop and then you have their own
00:12:12mascarade and then you go around town, you are
00:12:15expressing we call them in those
00:12:18days history, so that is what you're doing politics, so the
00:12:22common man doesn't feel that the... the
00:12:26disagreement between me
00:12:28and
00:12:32between me and has to do with him to do with
00:12:35him, is that why in your own view they are susceptible to being
00:12:39bought? that's
00:12:40what is they are - they consider irrelevant and they are pathetic and
00:12:44they are those being bought are part the
00:12:48concept, they hire troops, so you hire someone to sing for
00:12:52you, you hire them to campaign for you, you h them to go on radio
00:12:56or tv and speak for you, you also hire them to organize voter, you also
00:13:00hire the voters to vote, so it's a it's a
00:13:04politics that looks more
00:13:07like what happened in 19th century
00:13:10where companies were formed in
00:13:14London, Liverpool to go to Africa or Asia, East
00:13:18India Company Orger company go and take over to go and
00:13:22take over the place, so everybody working including Luga. was an employee of
00:13:26a company, so they go there and take over the territory, that's
00:13:29what tinubu and the likes and all the people are doing, which is that
00:13:33with form of a political party which is like royal energer
00:13:37company, we hire people to come and work for us, some for violence, some
00:13:41for their eloquence, some for their
00:13:43organizability, some for other things and
00:13:47then we took over the economy and we appropriate to
00:13:51ourselves, so the people of Nigeria therefore as still
00:13:55living under Chinu, the way they lived under
00:13:59Tom Goldi, the way they live under Lugad, and there
00:14:02the short interragunum the first republic where
00:14:06our people had true leaders, the
00:14:09leaders could not agree among themselves about national
00:14:12philosophy, eventually they got killed and the rest
00:14:16them now, but but the but your point is that they had resonance with
00:14:20their people, those ones had resonance because they had to go back
00:14:24to the people. for the continuation
00:14:28of existence in in power,
00:14:31okay, but since 1966 to
00:14:35date, maybe about 1993, nobody is
00:14:39interested so far taking their mandate from the
00:14:41people, and what i thought i could contribute to
00:14:45politics is to go back to the people and try
00:14:49to bridge the gap between the concept of
00:14:52nigeria and the elite concept of. Nigeria
00:14:56the elite concept of Nigeria is a country where
00:14:59you feel entitled
00:15:01for such a little contribution
00:15:04to gain accolates for
00:15:08writing one or two papers you want to be a professor or hanging around
00:15:12the ministry you want to be a permanent secretary for doing one or two exercises in
00:15:16the military you want to be a general because you are the only general no general has come
00:15:20from your state so they will force you to be made a general if somebody dies you get
00:15:23promoted so the least can be professor of messy and he has
00:15:27no clue about any solution he has found for anybody,
00:15:31so everybody is entitled to take out the country,
00:15:35nobody is willing to contribute to the... country that much,
00:15:39so now we thought that okay, the on people have stakes
00:15:42in the country who are to have the highest states
00:15:46are not participating and the elite are not ready to make
00:15:49contribution, there are some countries in america you see the have
00:15:53different generations, yeah they
00:15:55have what they call the greatest generation, yeah those who could die for
00:15:58something that is for the country, yeah those who at
00:16:0219 would jump on top of bomb to save their
00:16:05own platoon. you then you have another
00:16:09generation who went to fight in
00:16:12vietnam, you have another generation that is devoted to civil
00:16:16rights, so this if you look at
00:16:181960, the generation that went for
00:16:21independence, then we had another
00:16:24generation that fought for return of
00:16:28civil civil rule, return to civil
00:16:30rule, and lost
00:16:34his life in the process even though that was all post for himself at the
00:16:38beginning, then you had so
00:16:41many them countless and you
00:16:44had cat,
00:16:47even ubasani who has
00:16:51not moved
00:16:52into something i can't recognize anymore, so you have such
00:16:54people frank kokori
00:16:58and so
00:17:01many obiora, so many people
00:17:05now since 1999 'm you have a
00:17:09stand for nothing is elite, so if you are going
00:17:13to be arguing with the elite for a long
00:17:17time, you will not get it, i thought the best to do is go back to the
00:17:21people and get them reconciled with the notion
00:17:24that yes you are doing lot through self help, but it
00:17:28will be better for us to organize ourselves as a country and try to build
00:17:32a civilization for ourselves, try to build a state for
00:17:36ourselves and try to organize a politics that will allow
00:17:39a state to exist in Nigeria, sovereign
00:17:43state called Federal Republic of Nigeria right, and to
00:17:47also have a civilization, using chapter two the
00:17:50constitution as a template to arriving at that, okay praise,
00:17:54so the the the other question round that is,
00:17:57you know, what kind of feedback are you getting
00:18:01you, which is what I'm trying to get to, are you are you able
00:18:05to mobilize those people? understand that this is this is their
00:18:09future that they have to be there are four reactions i'm
00:18:12getting reaction number one guess
00:18:16is like oh there still nigeria we are relevant
00:18:20in this thing you guys
00:18:22do you just want to votes so the first thing
00:18:25is just assume you are first reaction to assume that you are one
00:18:28the mobile companies the
00:18:32replacement the replacement come periodically to come
00:18:36and would wink them votes, but when they listen to the deep
00:18:39conversation and the number of times that we come, they realize that we're
00:18:43trying to get something greater than than themselves out
00:18:46them, and then the the next is
00:18:50to define the country from their own
00:18:54perspective, and when you get introduced to Nigeria like
00:18:57that, I discover that many of
00:19:01our leaders are bound to fail because they don't even know the
00:19:05people that they are. company so they
00:19:09think, okay, then you get introduced to the
00:19:11country from the perspective of fellow
00:19:14countryman of country woman who is living in
00:19:18different corners of nigeria from yours and who
00:19:22does not know that there's
00:19:23a government in place, is that the second response? yes,
00:19:27that's talking about the four responses, yes, the third one is
00:19:30that they tend to now connect the
00:19:34dot between their experiences where... they
00:19:37are to the experiences of other people who you relate to
00:19:41them to say, oh this problem you have is also the problem they
00:19:44have at the other end and these other people there is other side there is
00:19:48actually having it better right, and then the fourth
00:19:52is that they stand to now agree to organize
00:19:56m, they now begin to say
00:20:00okay so what can
00:20:01we do, how can we organize and then they get feedback, so it's
00:20:05a
00:20:07process that... the way we are doing it, they now have a connection, there
00:20:11are many Nigerians, at least in my own honest
00:20:14view, there are at least two million Nigerians that
00:20:18through my own effort
00:20:22be discovered that president, they discovered,
00:20:25yeah, because they just thought, here's one man in
00:20:29Abuja who we have nothing to do
00:20:31with, and when you now connect the fact
00:20:35that is working for you, is your servant,
00:20:39actually he fits on your money, he sleeves in your
00:20:42house, you cloth him, you pay his transportation,
00:20:46yeah, you mean they didn't know that was president, they don't, there's no reason,
00:20:49don't know and and i can challenge
00:20:53president to go around the country, they didn't know, so you have to tell them that they don't who who the president
00:20:56was, they know that
00:20:57it's a man, okay, they don't see any
00:21:01connection, they will see him the same way they will see king of saudi arabia
00:21:05or see or cameron or the reason why i said that you know
00:21:08just let me make this anecdote prince and then we come back to
00:21:12it because you know i witness something similar that's why wanted to clarify it and for
00:21:16the b of our audience so uh the v president who I
00:21:20work with for eight years went a visit to Bayersate, I
00:21:24think that was disaster, you know, so uh, so the the the
00:21:28governor was then dixing, took him
00:21:32to some the victims, yes, you know, so so the governor was
00:21:36telling the victims that do
00:21:38you know the vice president, of course said
00:21:42that, the vice president, we don't never met, we
00:21:46don't ev vice president, that vice president also has the...
00:21:57yeah so that so now our people are really just
00:22:00completely disconnected, they don't want yes because the
00:22:04selfishness the elite, the way we have done
00:22:08it is to metropolize power and metropolize
00:22:12the economy, that's why they can come on your
00:22:15show shamelessly and say we have grown the reserve up
00:22:19to this amount.
00:22:19'm uh we have the statistics says this, world
00:22:23bank says that, doesn't they don't know their own people, if if you go
00:22:27back to the musings and writings of
00:22:31lugard in those days when frederick lugad used to have this argument
00:22:35with about
00:22:37all of that, and the one the writings -
00:22:41when they were the argument was getting to
00:22:44off, he tough a challenge
00:22:48that all these people are talking'.
00:22:52oh okay and it
00:22:54it said that nationalist that
00:22:58the trusad negroes of lagos and they are
00:23:02speaking for Nigeria, the trsad negroes of Lagos are taking for
00:23:05Nigeria, these are the people who used to send their suit
00:23:09on elder demster ship to Liverpool to be
00:23:13iron and send back and they are speaking of
00:23:16people, so
00:23:20just thought these people don't know what they're doing and and
00:23:24that still persists today, the people in the villa
00:23:28are for agents, is almost himself
00:23:31tourist to Nigeria, wow that's somebody who occasionally yeah
00:23:35visits Nigeria for, it will be equivalent to
00:23:38somebody who studies
00:23:40an open university to write exam
00:23:44we going to talk about about the president
00:23:47specifically you know, but I think this particular... that you describe
00:23:51is is more the systemic disconnection between govern those
00:23:55who govern and the people and it's a deliberate is is
00:23:59result of deliberate policy of exclusion okay but but before we get to that
00:24:03to that one did
00:24:04you get any kind of feedback
00:24:06you know uh you're talking about the four kind that you had from anybody
00:24:10for instance in the southwest and say that i
00:24:12prince you man why are you going against
00:24:16him because quite a lot of uh some of those narratives
00:24:23what i know is that there may be
00:24:25some
00:24:27of
00:24:30president's friends, those are in
00:24:34their company who might be sending that
00:24:37narrative, i saw it when i went efe, decided when they were
00:24:41doing the appointment and people thought we should go and take appointment with the government that
00:24:45people
00:24:45would don't believe in at all, but the average
00:24:48person they don't regard
00:24:52president as yorava person, oh because it doesn't have the
00:24:56character of
00:24:57a yoruba person, oh i see have that, you see
00:25:00your person, i think your person, it's expected at
00:25:04least in public life that you person will be
00:25:07kind, honest, hardwing,
00:25:11transparent, and you could have
00:25:14some assurance, even if you go on the
00:25:16street, they will tell you great
00:25:20father, you're supposed to be a well known quantity and there's a code
00:25:24of conduct, so for could those eas
00:25:26who have made it their duty to go around
00:25:30saying that they don't have a good subject matter
00:25:34to use, you cannot say to be honest, there's no traditional
00:25:38ruler, there's no leader of thought, there's no cludy, there's no
00:25:42affenifer, there's no euro forum, who can go honestly
00:25:46to say person.
00:26:04himself, if you see the quality, you look at the kind of
00:26:07quality of people, even the second
00:26:10republic, if you look at the third
00:26:14republic, look at the quality of leadership, then
00:26:17look at the
00:26:18governor,
00:26:22jacande,
00:26:26if you look
00:26:27around, the kind
00:26:31of person you can... used to quieting other people
00:26:35to say, it doesn't make the standard, but
00:26:39so and not i want to let are not
00:26:41tribalistic, you are not nepotistic
00:26:45and you are not bigoted, no eur
00:26:49person will use a bad example of eura
00:26:52person to inspire his children, he will say
00:26:56that so you think that is a
00:27:00bad example of person, yes and people would not
00:27:03let them be defined by that, but but they voted for him in in
00:27:072023? no, they did not, first you
00:27:10know, no, no, no, look at
00:27:13it, just just
00:27:15happen, 71
00:27:18killed, hundreds team prison in
00:27:21in prison and kefi prison, taking
00:27:24from like extraordinary redition
00:27:28like, so and not the b of...
00:27:32and all of that, and at that
00:27:34time he had not
00:27:38govern, most did not know
00:27:42in government, he was governor of lagos,
00:27:46doesn't live in lagos, okay,
00:27:48what do not business with lagos,
00:27:51so some maybe lagus, but your person, somebody is, what is the
00:27:55business, so
00:27:58now he is now presideding
00:28:02over the affairs of this country, we should a spectacular
00:28:06tragedy of of bad governance, and for your
00:28:10people who have a sense of quality that they even
00:28:13critique, they even critique British
00:28:16rule, they were not satisfied with it, they critique the rule
00:28:20the
00:28:21Allah fins, yeah, critique, so the your people are not the kind of
00:28:24people who will commit suicide together with you because
00:28:28you want to die under bad governors, so they
00:28:31are not going. if they see as they have seen quality
00:28:35people coming out, they r feel inspired that
00:28:39okay, at least it is not
00:28:43only the tragedy the misgovernance that is going to
00:28:47define the polities the southwest,
00:28:49there are other people coming out, all they can worry about is
00:28:52your prospects, the way they are throwing money around, the violence
00:28:56the introducing all the so call structure, how
00:28:59are you going to cop with that, those are the feedback that i get okay? and the rather
00:29:03encourage you to push and to say what is right, to do what is
00:29:06right. i think the where the act
00:29:10of your justice bend is towards the truth. okay,
00:29:14not perfect. all right, so so and mean i think it's
00:29:18reasonable to uh to make that assumption, but the
00:29:21problem that we find in the empirical analysis is
00:29:25that the people involved in that
00:29:28narrative are essentially the well to do.
00:29:32elitest or at least people who have who have
00:29:36attained some self actualization, you understand? those are the
00:29:40people that are so vast and
00:29:43engaged in those uh narrative of which you speak,
00:29:47you know, my own concern is that the
00:29:50ordinary man, how are we going to bring
00:29:54back the connection? you understand?
00:29:57because just a minute prince, because so the
00:30:01way our election. have gone,
00:30:03you know, essentially part the problem that that we have in my view is
00:30:07that the people have been
00:30:10dispossessed, and it's not just recent thing, I think
00:30:14you significantly
00:30:16for for for a large part, I think in 2015 there was a little bit of
00:30:20national clamor,
00:30:21you know, something like that, but I, I, I think there's been
00:30:25such very significant disconnection in this
00:30:28country whereby politicians have.
00:30:32managed how to make sure that those who come out to
00:30:36vote, they are bought, they are their own, they can predict it, they know what
00:30:40we happen, the know that some people are not going to come out, that's the real problem in
00:30:44my view, yeah, is a real problem, but you are solving that problem
00:30:48because people retreat from a
00:30:51mess, but when a mess is coming to where they
00:30:55are retreating to, they have to confront
00:30:57and clear it off, are we at that point, well at that?
Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (gdeltproject.org), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Film strip and transcript are GDELT's, rehosted here under their terms of use, which permit it with this citation.