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00:00:14are facing the advent of a climatic phenomenon which
00:00:17is El Niño, the Super Niño
00:00:19that predicts a lot of rain,
00:00:22wind, humidity, water, overcast skies,
00:00:26I hope that doesn't severely affect the season because
00:00:30I don't know if Argentinians, Argentinians who are thinking of summering
00:00:34will go anyway even if the weather doesn't
00:00:46at the beginning of El Niño? They are very cloudy, very
00:00:51And imagine that this will affect all of
00:01:09there and find me testimonials from the people of Mar del Plata, the people
00:01:13from the provinces who decided to take a little getaway this weekend. We'll be
00:01:16back with you because we have our mobile units all over the place, stationed at different
00:01:20neuralgic points to tell you how the economy
00:02:17the,
00:02:19we are very close to one of the, no, no, no.
00:02:23We are in the square, in the promenade, in the Recoleta promenade square, very close to a
00:02:26shopping mall, we were checking.
00:03:05here? The prices compared to
00:03:08France, yes, from France it's cheaper.
00:03:12Cheaper, yes, it's cheaper.
00:03:14And he doesn't know, he doesn't know anymore. How did you
00:03:18see the prices? Yes, I think it's cheaper
00:03:21to than living in Paris. Prices in Paris are very
00:03:25high compared to the rest of France, but if
00:03:29yes. Good. And through which sectors I think... for the food, for example,
00:03:32it's cheaper than in Paris. Ask him if they like President
00:03:35Milei, if they like, know anything about the
00:03:39president. About the president, President
00:03:43Milei, Milei. Do you have any idea
00:03:45about anything? No, they don't. I
00:03:48don't know the idea, politics,
00:05:12to enter the restaurant, how nice. Look, talk to the girls. Let's
00:05:16ask the ladies how much they plan
00:05:44Exactly, no, she she knows more than me, still
00:05:48no. No, what can I say?
00:06:09neighborhood. Well,
00:06:12consumption here in the neighborhood.
00:06:15movement? Well, I don't see anything out of the
00:06:19ordinary. Many tourists this
00:06:53are you spending? How much are you
00:06:55spending?
00:06:57Uh, in what? What are you referring to? These days you came because we are
00:07:01asking about the economy, about expenses, about prices. And
00:07:05look, I consider them, you know, they are
00:07:08really bad, you know? We are having a very bad economy.
00:07:12There is no money on the
00:07:15street. How much did you spend to come
00:07:19exactly? And look, in the
00:07:22day, we have spent about 100,000
00:07:26pesos. How many are you? How many? Two, it's the two of us. And what
00:07:29did you do? 50 at noon, 50 at night, all day like
00:08:44fair was packed with people for the celiac event. Corrientes Street
00:08:48is, Corrientes Street
00:08:51is glittering. Theaters are full. And I just heard you say
00:08:55there's no money on the street. I'm asking you to understand, uh, it's not a
00:08:58contradiction, because I'm saying you're there, I see other people queuing to enter
00:09:02a
00:09:05it's better to say that in
00:09:09Catamarca, there's no money on the street in Catamarca. Catamarca
00:09:13is bad, the economy is bad.
00:09:16Clearly, how do you see tell me that, how is the labor
00:09:19situation of the worker day to day there in Catamarca?
00:09:23Very poor, very poor. The mining companies are
00:09:26exploiting and you don't see
00:09:30money.
00:09:33No, you don't see a penny. Okay,
00:09:36okay. Let's see, Martincito, explain that reality to me, because the
00:09:40reality that everyone sees is undeniable.
00:09:53says very interesting because when one,
00:09:57when one, the closer one gets,
00:10:01one starts to ask questions, one starts to find these life stories, right?
00:10:04So mining is booming, meaning the mining sector is doing very
00:10:08well. I would like her to tell us a little about what her family does.
00:10:12What are you doing, my love? It's good. What's your name?
00:10:15What's your name? I didn't ask you. My name is
00:10:18Monica, Moni. Listen, and what do you do for work there, what do you do in
00:10:22Catamarca? Tell us that. Uh,
00:10:25I sell lingerie, I sell lingerie, for men and
00:10:28women. Yes, yes, yes. Wow, how nice, for men and
00:10:31women. And do you have a store or do you do it online,
00:10:33Moni? No, no, no, I do it online.
00:10:37Today everything is, today everything is online. What you say is true. And how
00:10:41long have you been with this venture? How many
00:10:43years?
00:10:45Quite a while, quite a while. 10 years or more. I dedicate myself to
00:10:49gastronomy, I dedicate myself to gastronomy and
00:10:52well, you know, to earn an extra peso.
00:10:55Yes, yes. And what, and what do you feel is more stalled there in
00:10:58Catamarca, the gastronomic sector or the
00:11:01lingerie sector? Which one is a little more lagging? Tourism,
00:11:05tourism. Tourism is not well exploited. You can't
00:11:08understand that at 10 at night there is no
00:11:10bus.
00:11:13Clearly, there's a structural issue there, right? That's interesting what he says,
00:11:16no? It's a public service, it's a public
00:11:20service that should have, that should have, obviously.
00:11:23Yes, yes, besides.
00:11:30it's such a beautiful province, there are so many things. Tomorrow, she's right. What are you saying, Moni? No, we have the richest country, we have the richest country in the
00:11:34world. Yes, yes. You understand? What happens is that
00:11:38she can believe. Retired, listen to me.
00:11:41We had governments for entire decades that didn't do
00:11:45infrastructure works, that didn't exploit the country touristically, and that stole
00:11:49everything. Unfinished roads, onerous
00:11:52contracts, money we don't know where it went. I'm just
00:11:56mentioning some of the Kirchnerite causes, uh, this is a
00:11:59consequence of theft, because this is
00:12:02a consequence of the systematic and
00:12:05methodical theft that we have had for many decades.
00:12:08You see, this is not exclusive to now. What do you think? Every year,
00:12:12every year, every year Peronists were
00:12:15delinquents, what do you want me to
00:12:29guys. Well, it finally happened. Yes, the prison ceased to exist.
00:12:32Do you live nearby in Urquiza? No, I'm from Urquiza, but I
00:12:36worked quite a lot on that project. Seriously?
00:12:472018, an agreement was started between the nation and the
00:12:50city of Buenos Aires to build the Marcos
00:12:52prison in Marcos Paz and definitively
00:12:56close the Devoto prison. That was stopped at one point,
00:12:59it was stopped, and then well,
00:13:03we were able to, with Minister Burrich, with Minister Alejandra
00:13:07Monteoliva, we were able to start
00:13:09that work again that the city is doing, the
00:13:13nation pays for it, but there is an agreement between both
00:13:16governments and the other day the reception of the prison was
00:13:19signed by the federal prison
00:13:22service, where Julián is.
00:13:25What will be built on that land? Well, that has to be
00:13:28sold. It is sold and with the sale of the
00:13:32land of Devoto, the
00:13:34last part of the work at Marcos Paz is paid for. So that
00:13:38money is given to the city. Let's watch this
00:13:41video, this video of the transfer of the prisoners from Devoto
00:13:46the Marcos Paz prison. Look.
00:13:50doing things here, they're taking out Cheto. Cheto is driving.
00:13:53manejando el Cheto.
00:14:25the cars in the surroundings don't expect it to be a
00:14:28plaza building, it's going to be a mess, they're going to leave it
00:14:32like they left the Caseros prison abandoned.
00:14:35Well,
00:14:37it's unlikely they'll be able to reinsert themselves
00:14:41or adapt.
00:14:44No, sorry, they are bad people, it's unlikely the comment he just
00:14:47made. This is a video sent to us exclusively, and these are exclusive images
00:14:51from Crónica. Well, a bit of the anger, how they were there, like,
00:14:55huffing and puffing, getting angry at the government that supposedly,
00:14:58sorry, has all the abandoned prisons.
00:15:02I mean, it's unlikely that a person with that
00:15:05homemade weapon and that attitude can be re-socialized. I mean,
00:15:09it's a serious problem, seriously, sorry. I mean, the images we
00:15:13are seeing are of that prison in Marcos. They are complaining because they are going to
00:15:16be transferred to this place. Yes, because you know what happens? In Devoto, they have no
00:15:19idea. They will be better off where they are
00:15:22now. But I tell you, look. I went to Devoto. I
00:15:26toured it with Julián Curi, with the ministry
00:15:29team, it's unlivable.
00:15:32That's why I say, what are they complaining about? And no, but there was the UVA with the
00:15:35Elkud, no, with... with a group of people, not the UVA
00:15:39as an institution, I'm a UVA graduate, no, on Tuesday I'm going to give a
00:15:43class, it's not that they don't administer the UVA for a group, a
00:15:46group that was there occupying a place and
00:15:50and and they want to keep that place. You have another group that wants to keep that
00:15:54place, much of which has to do with being in the capital for visits, etcetera, and there are
00:15:58things that are understandable, yes, but the smell in Devoto, the
00:16:01rotting smell is no, it's a place that was never
00:16:05built to be a prison either, so it has stairs,
00:16:09it has, uh, it doesn't
00:16:12have individual cells, it has pavilions with more than 70
00:16:16people. It's very, very destroyed, the
00:16:19infrastructure. We had to take down a water tank because
00:16:22it could fall, yes, structurally. Think that it's a very
00:16:26old prison that is many, many years old and that was other
00:16:29things, it was a children's residence, it was a hospital, that
00:16:33is to say, it's not prepared, it's not modern, it's not prepared for that.
00:16:37And it doesn't go with the new model, you see the images of the new
00:16:41prison and it's a prison that although
00:16:45it started in 2018, it's modern, that's why.
00:16:48Too much luxury for people who don't deserve it. Well,
00:16:52no, because it's not that, look, you don't punish
00:16:55people.
00:16:58It talks about a penitentiary system that is
00:17:00revitalize itself. Yes, of course. I think the first
00:17:04link for a person to truly readapt
00:17:07is to have them in dignified conditions,
00:17:11because for that we also pay our taxes, yes, and so they don't commit crimes, because
00:17:16there was a lot of too is that from a prison, uh, how many times do they
00:17:20call you on your cell phone? In federal prisons, we have a protocol, nobody has
00:17:23a phone. And also in Ezeiza,
00:17:27we put a signal jammer so there's no way anyone can talk on the
00:17:31phone there. They shouldn't be able to talk, no.
00:17:33Well, besides, they don't call you and
00:17:36try to scam you. Important in Buenos Aires province, you know that you can have your
00:17:40cell phone today if you are imprisoned. What will happen in Marcos Paz, which is a prison that not all
00:17:43federal prisons will have any possibility of any kind? I mean, but
00:17:47even so, even if they are in the province of Buenos Aires, in the whole country, because we have
00:17:51in, uh, you know that we also inaugurated a prison in Coronda in the north of Santa Fe, but it didn't
00:17:55get much attention, you know, because it's like uh, I said, well, that's
00:17:59it, a prison after 20 years will be all over the media, it will be
00:18:02spectacular, and it didn't get much attention. People didn't know much, but it's good
00:18:05this case of Devoto, which is much more symbolic, it's good that
00:18:09they can also see how the operation went, which was a clockwork, it's
00:18:13spectacular the operation with all the federal forces, the five
00:18:17forces, timed, you see it there with the armored vehicles, for a neighborhood like
00:18:21Devoto that is positioned as one of the most promising neighborhoods in the autonomous
00:18:24city of Buenos Aires, for the residents of Devoto, I'm reading you on
00:18:27@tomroxente, this must be a kind of relief, of course,
00:18:31obviously, also a detail, they won't be able to make videos in the new prison, that's
00:18:35the underlying problem, yes, they won't be able to shout things at you. You walk down the
00:18:38street and the windows are open, cell phone, yes, yes, the
00:18:42windows are open and they shout things and they throw
00:18:45things. Uh, that is, things were being exchanged. Why did it
00:18:49take so long to move this
00:18:52property, move the prisoners, to give that respite to the
00:18:56neighborhood? Look, the prison was finished very recently.
00:19:00It was received last week, on Thursday. We did the
00:19:04last inspections, an inspection was done
00:19:081,000 cadets went to live in
00:19:11that prison for a week to
00:19:14test it and to see that everything works, right? Because you also have to
00:19:18make sure the water works, the pipes, the
00:19:20electricity, the fire hoses, all that. So as soon as it was
00:19:24finished, today, only today, uh,
00:19:28we moved 326 prisoners in one
00:19:31day. In one day we have to move, uh, yes, today, Sunday,
00:19:34Sunday, yes, we started at 5 in the morning. And listen,
00:19:38what is the prison population in Devoto today? Today in Devoto there are
00:19:411500, 1700. And these are the
00:19:45first ones that moved, these 300, 400. Clear, yes, and we are going to
00:19:48keep moving and the only thing that will remain are the 300 prisoners
00:19:51who will be there for the Pope's visit.
00:19:54Ah, right. But then, uh, then yes, they will be moved and
00:20:07But it must be closed because it's a danger, you know, these are those things that in Argentina are those
00:20:11white elephants that last, that you say how can it be that this is
00:20:15there and years go by, years go by, and I am very
00:20:18proud to be part of this administration and to
00:20:22really close it. We are moving towards a more
00:20:25draconian, more severe prison system.
00:20:28I mean, we always use the example of Bukele,
00:20:31right? It's applicable in our system,
00:20:35in the Argentine system?
00:20:37It's really very tough and extreme for prisoners, those
00:20:41very powerful systems. I think Bukele's
00:20:44system is a very
00:20:47particular case and different from Argentina's. It can't be
00:20:51inspiring from the point of view that it brought about this discussion, right? Because in Argentina
00:20:55for years we've had impunity at full blast, and
00:20:58you, uh, you can't believe the habeas corpus. When I,
00:21:02I'm an economist, not a lawyer, but when they explained to me in college what
00:21:05a habeas corpus was, they told me it was to find a
00:21:09person. Well, today habeas corpus are for anything, because your back hurts, because the
00:21:13mattress you don't like, because the food you didn't like that food, because you want, because you're not
00:21:17eating meat and you want more kilos of meat.
00:21:20So really what happened in the Argentine prison
00:21:24system is that the prisoner, the
00:21:27criminal, had a certain prominence and that prominence was
00:21:31given to him from the point of view that he is a victim of
00:21:34society and on the other hand you had the real
00:21:38victims who, who really nobody
00:21:42listened to, nobody did justice for those
00:21:46victims. I don't believe in ill-treatment or mistreatment, uh, I don't think that's
00:21:50a solution, but I do believe that they should be isolated, that they cannot
00:21:53generate crimes from inside the prison and that those who can
00:21:57resocialize, let them do it. Now, you were just talking about the Pope, uh, will he finally come because
00:22:01he has health issues, it seems that the visit is being suspended,
00:22:05he has a nodule in his lung, there's a respiratory issue there, what
00:22:08is known? In principle, for now the visit has not been suspended
00:22:33there's a whole schedule, yes, yes, for now
00:22:36of, I think they won't cancel anything until they are
00:22:56We'll talk to an important pulmonologist about the Pope's health, I was reading in
00:23:00several portals and on social media, uh, that
00:23:03they were considering the possibility that the visit would be
00:23:06suspended, the Pope's visit,
00:23:21an old man. Someone knows the security operation, the deployment? Well, he will be in Luján, he will be in
00:23:25the capital, it will be in Cordoba. It will be the route he took in the
00:23:2980s with the Popemobile, remember? They are
00:23:32building Luján.
00:23:35He didn't want to go because we have near my house there's
00:23:39a club and we understand that he didn't want to. He
00:23:42wanted to go through the normal street. Also there's talk that there might be
00:23:46a double. You say, and that it's used a lot for
00:23:49security. Yes, of course. Yes, John Paul II when he came, it was him, because I remember seeing him
00:23:53close, very close, he passed and it was him, it was him in the 80s.
00:23:57Uh, it will be the Pope, it will be the
00:24:00Pope. No, no, the one who will be there, yes, uh, no, what they say, the one who will be there, yes,
00:24:04will be the Pope. No, no, what they say sometimes in transfers or places
00:24:08that for security they won't say if he will be inside the Popemobile, if he will go by plane,
00:24:12they don't want to say that until the moment and they are confusing people that
00:24:15way. No, no, the one who will be there will be the Pope, yes,
00:24:19will he be? Does anyone know that well? I thought he would be in Plaza de los
00:24:23Españoles, Plaza de los Españoles, yes, then well in the
00:24:26basilica, that is in, no, but I
00:24:30wanted to say in the cathedral, in the cathedral, he will be there, the president will
00:24:33also receive him.
00:24:36Today the president tweeted about the operational issue. Let's see with Dr.
00:24:40Guillermo Montiel who is a pulmonologist, uh,
00:24:43because the truth is that the Pope's health has us on edge, if a scheduled surgery comes,
00:24:46they are going to operate on a nodule in his lung.
00:25:11worried about this scheduled surgery or is
00:25:14it something
00:25:17recover easily?
00:25:20Look, in principle, scheduled nodule surgeries.
00:25:23detected early are surgeries that
00:25:26as of today are
00:25:29quite safe with a rapid recovery period of
00:25:33hospitalization if there are no complications, they are for
00:25:36any patient over 60, under 80 who has
00:25:40a small lung nodule, a pulmonary
00:25:43nodule and that is easily accessible, things that we obviously
00:25:46do not know, are surgeries that really
00:25:52scheduled in
00:25:55low-risk patients, are surgeries that
00:25:58possibly the patient is already at home within a week.
00:26:02Staying hospitalized for a week or
00:26:05less depending a lot on what type of surgery and what intervention
00:26:09they perform, it's not the same to have a nodule, a
00:26:12nodule in the lung close to what we call
00:26:16the very internal mediastinum as to have a lung nodule very close to the ribs,
00:26:20peripheral, of course, that will depend on the type of surgery
00:26:23the surgeon will perform, currently
00:26:26surgeries with video with minimal
00:26:29interventions with some two, three functions and
00:26:33they can also come with the video camera and remove
00:26:36the nodule, perform minimal resections as well, that's why it depends,
00:26:40it depends a lot on what type of nodule, where it is
00:26:42located, and where it is located, doctor, are these types of surgical
00:26:46interventions usually very invasive?
00:26:48I'll tell you,
00:26:51if you tell me when I was studying a long time ago, they were
00:26:55surgeries, they were even there were
00:26:58rib resections, they were very
00:27:01bloody surgeries. Today many of these
00:27:04surgeries are done with video surgery, that is,
00:27:08like gallbladder surgery, more or less
00:27:11the same, it's not exactly the same, no, but they are surgeries, there can
00:27:15be minimally invasive surgeries, even the surgery
00:27:19can start being with video
00:27:22and a thoracoscopy and
00:27:25subsequently it can be expanded according to what the surgeon
00:27:28finds, but today, from what is more or less
00:27:32known about peripheral nodules, they are not surgeries that
00:27:36are not like before, they are surgeries that
00:27:39are minimally invasive, what is the
00:27:43postoperative period like, once he regains consciousness, when the
00:27:48breathe like anyone else, will he need some type of
00:27:52assistance, can he eat, does he have to be
00:27:54medicated? Yes, there is something interesting
00:27:58that to talk about
00:28:01a specific person, one would have to know the whole history, no, so
00:28:05I'm going to talk in general
00:28:08about what these types of surgeries are like, a minimally
00:28:11invasive surgery like this type or with a minimal
00:28:15incision with a lobe resection, which is a major surgery,
00:28:19can be a surgery that if there were no
00:28:22complications, the patient could be discharged in a week,
00:28:25obviously then you have a whole recovery period of
00:28:29rehabilitation,
00:28:32you have to see how they look, that there are no bullae, that it is well
00:28:35closed, the biggest problem with any surgery is postoperative
00:28:39pain, and for that there are also
00:28:42many advances in everything that is pain management in the
00:28:45postoperative period and what is achieved now together
00:28:48with the activity of respiratory physical therapists above all
00:28:52is what we call the early mobilization of these patients
00:28:55when there are no complications
00:28:58sometimes some drainage
00:29:01tubes are left at first, the tubes are left to see
00:29:05that there is no, to be sure that there is no bleeding or anything like that, once the
00:29:08tubes are removed, the patient can now
00:29:11ambulate freely,
00:29:15the issue of eating or not eating in the postoperative period, in the thoracic
00:29:18postoperative period, it is, I insist again, if
00:29:22there are no complications, it is more or less early and it is an
00:29:25adequate diet of easy, as
00:29:29nutritionists call it, easy to chew. Yes,
00:29:32yes, yes, and not much more than that, doctor, is
00:29:36it advisable for a 71-year-old person,
00:29:39recently operated, to start
00:29:42a journey to Latin America with all that it implies
00:29:45going from one place to another, the press,
00:29:49the people, the protocol meetings, meeting
00:29:52the president, going, coming, I mean, is
00:29:55it advisable, your criterion, is there the possibility that maybe the
00:29:59visit will be postponed, procrastinated until later? Any type of surgery of that
00:30:04type is undoubtedly
00:30:08something that will have to be evaluated very carefully
00:30:11because but
00:30:14just remember that
00:30:17in airplane flights and at
00:30:21altitude, at altitude, what
00:30:25drops a lot is the oxygen pressure, the
00:30:29barometric pressure drops and therefore the oxygen pressure,
00:30:32that in itself could already be an
00:30:36inconvenience, on the other hand, in airplane
00:30:39cabins, the
00:30:42pressure is lower than the
00:30:45pressure here on the ground,
00:30:49and if there were any bullae or any
00:30:52lesion or
00:30:56any air bubble that remained, for example, to make