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00:02:15Loans, debts and
00:02:17threats. Jimena owes 5
00:02:21million,
00:02:24she claims that the lenders are harassing her.
00:02:27Her mom organizes a raffle to raise money and pay off her
00:02:33scaring them more than debts.
00:02:34be measured, there's no measurement, what we My daughter sold everything, she tried to
00:02:37message, black, to see what commit suicide,
00:02:39we are working live, Rodo Morel tells us, Rodo, happy
00:02:43of it is in debt and with Saturday, what are you doing Dani, it's not a happy Saturday
00:02:46for Graciela, who is the mother, Jimena, who is the daughter, we are in
00:02:50José C. Paz more than 60 km from
00:02:53dad and they the federal capital,
00:02:55helped me up to a point with nothing Jimena sold was enough to pay that
00:02:57amount that you rightly said,
00:03:00she sold. from window
00:03:03well, unfortunately, it's what openings, sheets from her
00:03:06room, the refrigerator,
00:03:09a box spring, well, nothing is
00:03:13loan, then
00:03:16she took another one to cover the first one, then she had to
00:03:19first and second,
00:03:23she had to take a fourth one to
00:03:26which is things to sell on the see if she could face the merchandise, third, the second and the first of b4,
00:03:30loans she lost her basic income which was the
00:03:34sale of clothes here in José C. Paz, it's a
00:03:37chaotic situation on top of that as you well said with
00:03:41this decision she had of a suicide attempt, well everything
00:03:44is very chaotic, we are with Jimena, we are with
00:03:47Graciela, well Jimena, uh, everything
00:03:51starts from what, you started having like any
00:03:54entrepreneurship, the dream of having a job, you started having a clothing
00:03:57store, is that right, a clothing store uh.
00:04:00uh used clothes, new clothes uh I had a bit of everything uh well I started well
00:04:04at first uh then uh sales started to drop
00:04:08to be able to have more
00:04:11and have a big store uh I took out a
00:04:14loan uh I started paying already after it
00:04:17became difficult because things were no longer
00:04:20selling uh I asked for another one to cover part of that and
00:04:24be able to buy more things, already after that I got complicated with the
00:04:27second uh I asked for a third
00:04:30one to cover a bit of the first, the second and buy more
00:04:33merchandise it also got
00:04:36complicated, another one appeared, he offered me another one and
00:04:39I also took it to cover a part of the rent uh
00:04:43to be able to cover the others but it wasn't enough and when I realized
00:04:47I already had uh five daily payment lenders
00:04:51that I couldn't uh pay, I ended up asking
00:04:54monthly, it got complicated again more uh until
00:04:58well I couldn't take it anymore and on April 4th uh
00:05:01I had the first suicide attempt no that they saved me in the
00:05:05hospital and and well now what's left for me is
00:05:09to be able to pay, I can't get a job, I go out to sell at the fair and some days it
00:05:13sells, some days it doesn't, uh, I started selling
00:05:16food, uh, I also sold well for a week, then
00:05:20nothing sold, uh, now on August 28th
00:05:24I tried to throw myself under the train, no, please, but
00:05:27well, I don't know,
00:05:30Jimena, while, we are going to show now the
00:05:34room where Jimena sleeps, how many children do you have,
00:05:37five, five, I have five children, four live with me, the eldest
00:05:41uh, moved out because she has a girl
00:05:44and and well uh so I am with the four younger
00:05:48children in this room that we are showing
00:05:51we see how many beds three beds uh
00:05:55how many people sleep there I sleep in
00:05:58one below with the youngest one, in the other in the other
00:06:01my 17-year-old son sleeps and in the
00:06:04other my 11-year-old son and my 13-year-old daughter do not
00:06:07sleep with me, she sleeps with my mom because of the fact that uh well I
00:06:11sold the box spring and it's two box springs that I had so
00:06:14she had to sleep with my mom, so to speak, of course, now
00:06:17well, uh we are sleeping at my mom's because the other day an
00:06:21outlet caught fire and I ran out of electricity, so
00:06:25we are sleeping, my youngest son
00:06:28uh my mom, my three-year-old daughter and I in my mom's bed
00:06:32and then my other son throws a mattress and the other one sleeps on the couch because when
00:06:36it rains we can't be here and even less without light, Jimena, I invite
00:06:40you to connect, stand here at this
00:06:44while you were listening to the
00:06:49what I call a room, right, because it would be like
00:06:52her her home, it's what she conditioned as a room and that's fine
00:06:56obviously Rodo, sorry Rodo, are you
00:07:00telling me that she doesn't have an access door, she doesn't have, she doesn't have a door
00:07:03directly to the house, she doesn't have a door
00:07:06no because the other
00:07:09half of the house was longer, the other
00:07:13uh, since I had no money and my sister had nowhere to live, I sold her half
00:07:16last year and a wall was built, I had the door to
00:07:19put it, but since I was
00:07:22building last year, I had bought everything to
00:07:26be able to finish it, uh, then
00:07:29I sold all the doors and didn't put the door, I had a curtain
00:07:32directly that I took off now because, well, with the rain I had to wash
00:07:36yes, that is to say that you sold the door of your house
00:07:39to be able to cancel part of the loan.
00:07:43half of the house, so you sold almost everything, yes, I sold
00:07:46everything, yes, and and how much
00:07:49you still owe, I was lucky to keep these beds , how much do you owe
00:07:53today, now to cover and be at peace yes,
00:07:57to cover and be at peace, to be able to sleep peacefully, it's
00:08:01approximately 5 million, 5
00:08:03million pesos, no, uh, and
00:08:06she sold practically everything she has in the house to be able
00:08:10to fill the gap, no, the desperation.
00:08:13I don't want to get into the other thing Rodo was saying which is the intention to take her
00:08:16life, do you have support, do you have a professional who is
00:08:20supporting you, uh I I was under
00:08:23treatment uh uh I stopped
00:08:26were I had to take two a
00:08:30day and I was totally
00:08:34mi mamá con los chicos eh mi mamá es una señora mayor la cual
00:08:37was too much of a burden for her so I decided to stop treatment in the
00:08:41second attempt. of suicide I had, my mom didn't take me to the
00:08:45hospital because if they took me they would admit me uh, they
00:08:48told me it was from 15 days to a month, yes, and it was
00:08:52too much for her to stay with the kids, clear, so, that's why I'm not
00:08:56hospitalized and I didn't want to continue treatment, you had to
00:08:59choose to either be hospitalized and recover and
00:09:03leave the burden of raising your children to your mom
00:09:06not to be hospitalized and give a
00:09:10even with the suffering of...
00:09:18now it's terrible where I ask the following, where
00:09:22are you living because people can come and
00:09:25donate a bed, they can donate some bricks, they can
00:09:29donate cement, they can donate the door, they can help you in some
00:09:33way so that you little by little and with some things
00:09:36can get ahead, where do you live, where is your house located, what
00:09:40street huh?
00:09:473628 well, stop, when Rodo just now our colleague, dear Jime,
00:09:51spoke of threats yes, uh how long
00:09:55have you been suffering these threats and how are they, in what way do they
00:09:59threaten you
00:10:02uh no, look, the Colombians I have lenders who don't
00:10:06rush me uh they know my situation and they are not rushing
00:10:10me, who are the monthly ones, the daily ones who do. I still owe them and it's been
00:10:138 months,
00:10:16they are Colombians who come on motorcycles, I don't
00:10:20know their names because wait, the ones you owe monthly are
00:10:24Argentinians, they are lenders who know you, they are Argentinians, they
00:10:27tell you, "Jim, I understand, I'll give you a little more time," now the Colombians
00:10:31keep threatening you every day, they are the ones who charge you daily,
00:10:34no, and and when they tell you the threats that are face-to-face, they come to your house
00:10:38on their motorcycle,
00:10:41and they don't want, what they tell you is no, this can get worse,
00:10:45the others will come, uh, and they don't
00:10:48deal with names of anyone, why, because they
00:10:52don't deal with transfers, they deal with cash, yes,
00:10:55because if they dealt with transfers, if I wanted to
00:10:58report them I would have their data, so what do they do, they
00:11:02deal with cash so as not to leave any trace of anything, clear,
00:11:05clear, clear, and and and the and they come close, it calls
00:11:09my attention, it worries me when it says the others, because the
00:11:12threat because there are several, because one falls black, no, no, but the others
00:11:16I think are the ones who are going to try to assassinate
00:11:19her, because the ones who threaten her with death, it's like that, Jimena, do you interpret the same as
00:11:23me, when they tell you the others are the ones who do the
00:11:25dirty work,
00:11:28right, well, the last time uh that I attended to them because after
00:11:31that I told my brother that directly uh they should tell them that
00:11:34I wasn't there uh many times they came when I
00:11:39the psychiatrist or psychologist uh and I already grabbed and told him
00:11:42well I'm going to tell him I'm at the doctor's uh I would tell him
00:11:45last resort because the last time I spoke uh
00:11:49one of them grabbed and told me I want the money and I want it now, I'm not interested in
00:11:52your problems, so I grabbed and told him
00:11:55well you have food every day, sometimes I don't even have enough to buy
00:11:58a bag of rice for my kids, I tell him, so understand that I don't have it because I'm giving
00:12:02an idea, I tell him so you know my situation, I tell him
00:12:05I have things to sell, I tell him, uh but
00:12:09well at the moment they don't sell and the one who
00:12:13threatens me the most is one to whom I owe uh only
00:12:16five installments of 18,000 pesos, so that's the
00:12:19biggest charge. armed, when the
00:12:23armed ones go, do they show you weapons? they show knives, no, I can't tell
00:12:27you anything, no, no, no, no, it's just
00:12:30that they think that because they are Colombians you have to be
00:12:33afraid of them, okay, I so far, I mean, I'm not afraid
00:12:37of them, but you know, you can never be, but you have to be careful in
00:12:40life, so let me add Robert, Robert, this, you who are
00:12:43an economist and live the numbers every day, dear Robert,
00:12:47how many people are in the same situation as Jimena, how many
00:12:50people go directly to the crooked lender, no, to the
00:12:54Colombian like him. in the neighborhoods is that it's the derivative and since it can't
00:12:59can see is the systemic that today with the banking
00:13:03system the 12.8%
00:13:08the fintech system the 33%,
00:13:11but what these lenders are is not in any system, so it's difficult to
00:13:15measure it, what we are also talking about in the fintech
00:13:19system is debt of 10,000 pesos, 200,000 pesos
00:13:22and when people end up there she was saying. exactly, they are small
00:13:26debts, exactly, and the other
00:13:29problem that is seen that is also derived from that, we have in terms of
00:13:33homicide in occasion of robbery
00:13:353.5 per 100,000 inhabitants, but what has
00:13:39soared in the last two years is the number of suicides which is at
00:13:4211.8 per 100,000 inhabitants, which is saying
00:13:46that this problem that Jimena is showing that she is going through
00:13:50that she is experiencing, a lot of people and Argentine families are experiencing
00:13:54it, look, speaking of a lot. of people, Jimena, don't go, Jimena nods, now I'll leave
00:13:57you a question, Jimena, that has to do with the rest of the neighbors in the
00:14:01neighborhood, no, how many neighbors are,
00:14:05I'm not saying a similar situation, but who went to the
00:14:08lender, you'll answer me now, why, because
00:14:11Robert just said there are many people who are just like
00:14:14Jimena, here's Brian, no Brian, hello Brian,
00:14:18how are you, Brian arrived at the door of the channel, you tell me if I'm
00:14:21lying or not, Brian, correct me on air, no problem. that
00:14:25you arrived at the door of the channel desperate asking for help because you can't take it anymore, even
00:14:29crying, yes, they found you crying at the door of the channel begging for us
00:14:33to give you a hand, you are also a victim of the loans from the
00:14:36Colombians, not Colombian, but people from the
00:14:39neighborhood who, well, today due to circumstances
00:14:43of not having much
00:14:47work uh I was also
00:14:50fired from a job, 3 years
00:14:53unregistered. they fired me without
00:14:57a valid reason, I had to miss work due to my
00:15:00health, but as a security guard they didn't want to give me a certificate,
00:15:04they fired me and because of that I ended up with all this
00:15:06debt that unfortunately
00:15:09today it became too much, it became
00:15:13a lot and constant no, but
00:15:17you had your job, you had to miss work for personal reasons and at what point
00:15:20did you incur this debt, was it when you lost your job? I was
00:15:23working. and I was asking one
00:15:27before before having that job I already had
00:15:31loans why because we are in a very
00:15:34difficult situation and I see you very emotional. we will do our
00:15:38best to help you Brian, but I want to understand why you get to
00:15:42that point, I mean what are the debts with paying the rent, with paying
00:15:45the services with supporting your children, I don't know if you have to support my
00:15:49children, yes, I have three children
00:15:51and
00:15:53I went into debt for them also as
00:15:56for today you can't afford a luxury,
00:16:00but to give them a luxury that
00:16:03much was not really possible.
00:16:08and and well today
00:16:11happened the debt remained
00:16:15stagnant, I was paying I was paying until at a
00:16:18point it became too much, so many interests accumulated
00:16:21and in everyday life when you talk Brian about
00:16:25luxuries, you talk about a trip to the movies, not
00:16:29special food, I don't know, a
00:16:31barbecue
00:16:33uh something for the house because today directly not much
00:16:37luxury you can't afford uh how this economy is, how everything is, I
00:16:41sincerely it's that of being able to go out, yes
00:16:45also why not but wait Brian wait because when one gets fired
00:16:48from a job and you don't have the possibility of doing odd jobs, you don't think about going out, about
00:16:52eating barbecue, what one thinks about is feeding the kids
00:16:56how many kids do you have? I have three minor kids, all minors
00:17:01amount of the first loan you took out uh
00:17:05500,000, 50,000 and they demanded you return it in how many
00:17:08installments, no, what amount, from one month to the next, from one month to the next
00:17:12and how much did you have to pay for 500, how much did you have to return, one
00:17:15million, double,
00:17:18double and how do you return a
00:17:21having an odd job, getting some small job and paying
00:17:24it off per week for the odd jobs that
00:17:28I was doing and no yes there was no, there was no
00:17:31because there was no
00:17:35them and saving and giving to them. no, feed
00:17:38them and now how much do you owe Brian now and now
00:17:41approximately
00:17:445 5 million, the same as Jimena, that is, the same
00:17:47amount as Jimena, Jimena was talking about five million, Brian is talking about 5
00:17:50million,
00:17:54a pile of debt that you can't control, here there are two
00:17:58things, there is a clear intention from Jimena and Brian to
00:18:02buy televisions but to feed their
00:18:05children, even Jimena. betting on buying merchandise to sell
00:18:09and for the business she had installed to resurface, do you want us to go to a
00:18:14it is phone, well, we ask people then to
00:18:18send us a message if they also want to help this person
00:18:211161765692
00:18:24we await your messages and collaboration from everyone, well Brian, now we'll continue with you
00:18:27because Jimena is here, let's go, we're with you Rodo again,
00:18:30Jimena, we wanted to ask you also this that Brian
00:18:34was precisely mentioning the daily food.
00:18:38You said you had five children, therefore I
00:18:41imagine it must be very difficult to have money
00:18:44for food every day, are you also
00:18:48complicated in that, do you have a job now, how do you
00:18:50manage?
00:18:52I don't have a job, I go out when it doesn't rain
00:18:56to sell at the fairs, I had bought a little
00:19:03street, I have a lot left because I couldn't sell it.
00:19:07Uh, it doesn't sell uh, then regarding
00:19:11food, my mom is helping me, but she also has difficulties and
00:19:15there are days when she doesn't have any and it's trying to see
00:19:18where to get something so that they have at least a plate of food at
00:19:22night, if it's not found during the day it has to be found for the night,
00:19:25now uh I'm going to ask you, what she said was tremendous,
00:19:28right, but it's one plate of food per day, if you don't eat during the
00:19:32day, throughout the day, at least eat at night before going to sleep, the French
00:19:36is tremendous, uh, you realize why people cannot
00:19:40face the payment of that loan, take responsibility for the
00:19:43commitment they made, Brian's situation must be similar, this is
00:19:46repeated, but uh I don't know if we can enter Rodo, I ask you if
00:19:50we have light to be able to enter because she said they didn't have light just now
00:19:54and maybe I'm putting you in an uncomfortable situation dear dear Rodo
00:19:57Morel, no, there it goes, there because what's left for Jimena to sell,
00:20:01she sold the, she sold the door, she sold
00:20:04the entrance door to her house to be able to pay.
00:20:11I think Rodo mentioned the kitchen at some point, now she has
00:20:15three small beds, a couple of mattresses and nothing
00:20:17more to sell, if they sell the mattresses, they sleep on the
00:20:21floor, Jimena, there's nothing
00:20:23left,
00:20:28yes, no, it's the only thing I have left, this is the only thing you have left, the
00:20:31mattress and the trundle bed, that's it,
00:20:33yes, this is it...
00:20:41How many live there, Jimena, do you have another room, do you have a kitchen, do you have a bathroom, you have
00:20:44nothing, how can you not, no, no, no, no, no, I use my mom's
00:20:48bathroom and for cooking, well, now that because I sold the stove,
00:20:51I cook with my mom's stove, how many live
00:20:54there, Jimena, the sheet metal I had for a roof, uh, here
00:20:58there are four of us, my three kids and I,
00:21:01uh, yes, there are three, there are four of us, yes, because my other
00:21:05daughter is uh, uh,
00:21:08sleeping with my mom, well,
00:21:11clear, so you have your mom, the truth is it shouldn't be the situation because you are
00:21:15trying to progress, but you have
00:21:19cooking. with raising your children yes, but until when can an elderly adult help
00:21:23her daughter with five children, no, and besides she tried to finish, until
00:21:26when, have a business, no because my mom also has health problems,
00:21:30for this, Jime, Brian, the same thing happens to you, did you have to
00:21:33sell your belongings, Brian, until
00:21:38unfortunately I don't have many things, Brian can't speak,
00:21:41he's very bad, uh, I don't have many
00:21:44valuable things and what I have of value is from my
00:21:47children.
00:21:52but I really haven't reached that point but
00:21:54instead of selling my things I had to try
00:21:56to do odd jobs as I told you what do you know how to do what do you know how to do
00:22:00uh everything can be communicated, bricklayer,
00:22:03cut roofs, fixed roofs, I was
00:22:07a gastronomist, a hustler, I was a gastronomist for 12 years,
00:22:10Brian, phone, do you want to give your phone number on air and that if the people
00:22:14can give you a small job, if they can
00:22:17help you uh
00:22:50to ask for messages about how they threaten him, yes
00:22:52uh uh I didn't want to get to that point
00:22:56of not talking, yes, I'm afraid for my family, but
00:22:59are you afraid they'll go to your house and harm your wife and children? That's
00:23:03what I said when I arrived, but I didn't know, I apologize,
00:23:06I didn't know, I apologize, uh, I apologize on air, I didn't
00:23:10know, but why, uh, why are you afraid, do they live near your
00:23:13house? I have, don't
00:23:16give out data, but I have two children, I have two children with disabilities and I'm
00:23:20afraid of
00:23:23they already are with their issues, do your children
00:23:26know about this situation, no, you, you
00:23:29are you living with someone besides your children, uh, no,
00:23:32no, it's just you with your children, yes, so I had
00:23:36to unfortunately
00:23:39ask for resources from my mom, my
00:23:45money, my mom is retired, they live alone and
00:23:50they helped me up to a point, but
00:23:53we told you, just relax, we'll be back with you, Rodo, go ahead, you're with Jimena, Jimena
00:23:57is there seeing this, if
00:24:00she receives any message, if there's a message to help Jimena, yes,
00:24:04Caro, whatever you have, don't interrupt,
00:24:07absolute priority, the people who communicate with us and want to
00:24:11give some kind of help, whatever it is, Robert, what should people do when they are in
00:24:14such an extreme situation, no, I got fired, I don't have an odd job, I don't have a
00:24:18penny, I have to pay. the electricity, the gas, phone, feed my children, I go
00:24:22or I don't go to the moneylender, the first thing to say is that
00:24:26people go to the moneylender because it's their last resort and the only resort, what's
00:24:30missing is a policy from the
00:24:32state, also let's look at the neatness that Jime has in her house, in her
00:24:36home, in her things, how she has everything cared for, and in Brian's
00:24:39case let's see how he has the will to work and to continue
00:24:43working, he worked 12 years and they fired him while he was
00:24:46unregistered, that's what can't continue.
00:25:02You know what happens to us, we question the poor and I'm sure that on the other side there will be a lot of
00:25:06people who will also tell us and but he went to buy a
00:25:09barbecue, guys, at some point one has to be able to treat themselves,
00:25:13we're not talking about going to Miami, to
00:25:16Disney, we're talking about a piece of meat to eat,
00:25:20to enjoy with the family, that's not a treat, it's not a luxury, guys,
00:25:23Argentina is very bad if we believe that a little piece of
00:25:27barbecue on the grill is a luxury, the
00:25:30minimum wage went from buying 43 kg of barbecue
00:25:33to buying only 20 kg of barbecue, that's the reality of what
00:25:37is happening in Argentina, let's go back with Jimena, come on Rodo, we're listening to you, you're there with
00:25:40Jim, Rodo, come on,
00:25:43let's go, you know what caught my attention Dani was
00:25:47how the loan modality is. so
00:25:50alternative beyond virtual wallets or
00:25:53banked Jimena has to pay a
00:25:56daily amount of 1800 pesos and if she doesn't collect
00:26:00that money in the day.
00:26:03they add an interest of 500 pesos per
00:26:06day, I mean, realize that she has to generate
00:26:0923 pesos per day to pay for a day of
00:26:12debt, yes, that multiplied by
00:26:1530, which is the whole month, from
00:26:18not having income because the job she had at the store did not
00:26:22sell, she started selling her things and from
00:26:26that delinquency comes
00:26:29another yes to offer you money without taking into account...
00:27:02surcharge plan, which is 10,000 pesos more, so if you didn't have 20 today, tomorrow
00:27:06you have to have 50, okay, clear Dani, and Ana, because Jimena told me that the
00:27:10logic is that many times we fell or we fall, she
00:27:13takes out a second loan to be able to
00:27:15cover the first one, the desperation, and
00:27:18she couldn't a little
00:27:21like that, the desperation, yes,
00:27:25because wanting to comply with both
00:27:28those who lend to you, because I always said they are doing me a favor, and when I
00:27:31needed it, they gave me a hand, so I need to pay them back, but
00:27:35well, it's for thinking, I think, a little like
00:27:39that, it was that I went crazy, and well, I had the first suicide attempt because
00:27:42there was
00:27:45no way,
00:27:48I had bought things to sell and I didn't sell anything, so what do you sell, Gime,
00:27:52what do you sell or what do you know how to do also, what do you sell, Gime, what do you have to
00:27:56sell?
00:27:58I now have floor cloths, deodorant,
00:28:03eh, cutlery, eh, well, a little bit of everything,
00:28:06let's say, and then clothes, used clothes that I have
00:28:09also, that I had left over from the store, I have a lot left over, and you say that nothing is
00:28:13sold, you go out to the street or you go to a fair and people don't
00:28:17buy, they don't even spend on a floor
00:28:19cloth.
00:28:21No, no, the other
00:28:25day I went, I went for a while with my daughter, it was
00:28:28nice, I went to sell, I had only sold 1,500
00:28:32pesos, 1,500, how many hours did you spend to sell 1,500
00:28:35pesos? I didn't even pay for the bus. 3 hours, 3
00:28:39hours, 1,500 pesos, you don't even pay for a black bus. I see
00:28:42a pot behind you. Did you cook today in the pot behind you in the
00:28:45context of what is not? No, that's the food that
00:28:48was prepared for the dog. Oh, it's the dog food, because I was going to ask you if you ate lunch
00:28:52today.
00:28:52No.
00:28:56You didn't eat?
00:28:59No, no, and the kids?
00:29:03Uh, no, not either, because, well, on weekends, we stay up late
00:29:07always watching videos,
00:29:10and, well, they wake up late, so if they wake
00:29:13up now, they have some tea, and I cook at night. I'm going to
00:29:16translate, and I could be
00:29:19wrong. Staying up late watching videos is not
00:29:22lazy. It's not lazy people,
00:29:26but it's a mechanism to trick the kids
00:29:29into sleeping late, into waking
00:29:33up late, and not remembering that they have to eat lunch because
00:29:36there's nothing to eat. I'm telling those on the other side, it's a mechanism that people
00:29:40who don't have a penny today use because the kids wake up late today,
00:29:44Saturday, so they have a mate cocido with something left over,
00:29:47bread perhaps, so they end up saving lunch, that's
00:29:51fine, no, but it's the reality for many people, it's not
00:29:55laziness, but it's necessity, and you have to trick your stomach, do you understand what
00:29:59I'm saying? Is it correct, Jim, what I'm saying? No?
00:30:03Yes, it is, it is, it
00:30:07is, it's like that in many places, we have a very big problem if
00:30:10we think that our kids, and when I say our kids, I'm talking
00:30:14about the youngest of absolutely all
00:30:17families, because
00:30:20mom and dad want to have a treat, and a treat
00:30:24has to be a barbecue, then they can't eat all
00:30:27day. Look how bad things are that if the treats end
00:30:31up being... only some little meal that we make for the day,
00:30:35really the situation is very bad, Caro, we repeat the phone number,
00:30:39and if there's any message, we'll read it, exactly, well, we repeat the phone number for all of you
00:30:43who are on the other side, 11 61 76 56
00:30:4692 for you to send us your message, if you also want to collaborate, if
00:30:50you want to help, we will be reading here live, now I also ask the
00:30:54following
00:30:55um
00:30:59you are going to