Argentina: Crónica

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00:00:00he worked for 12 years and they fired him while he was off the books, that's what
00:00:04can't keep happening, it can't keep happening that if you don't
00:00:07pay something you can go to jail, but if you don't pay employer contributions nothing
00:00:11happens, then when they come and we question only the poor,
00:00:15that's what happens to us, we question the poor and I'm sure that on the
00:00:19other side there will be a lot of people who also tell us and
00:00:22but if he went to buy a barbecue, guys, at some point
00:00:26one has to be able to treat themselves, we're not talking about going to Miami.
00:00:30to Disney, we're talking about a piece of meat
00:00:34to eat and enjoy with the family, that's not a treat, it's not a luxury,
00:00:37guys, Argentina is in a very bad state if we believe that
00:00:41a small piece of grilled meat is a luxury, the minimum
00:00:45wage went from buying 43 kg of grilled meat to buying
00:00:48only 20 kg of grilled meat,
00:00:59gangs that assault citizens of wondering, Dani, was
00:01:02calligraphy, the how the alternative loan
00:01:04modality is, beyond virtual or
00:01:08banked wallets, Jimena has to pay a daily amount of
00:01:1218, and if she doesn't
00:01:14collect that money in the day, they add an
00:01:18interest of 500 pesos per day, so realize
00:01:22that she has to generate 23, pesos per
00:01:25day to pay for one day of debt, yes, that
00:01:29multiplied by... 30, which is the whole
00:01:31month, from not having income because the
00:01:35job she had, the store didn't sell, she started
00:01:39selling her things and from that
00:01:41delinquency, someone else comes
00:01:45being investigated by the to offer you money without taking into account
00:01:49Jimena's delinquency, they also give her the money and the vicious cycle
00:01:52begins, you have to pay that amount daily,
00:01:55Jimena, uh, yes, there are some that are
00:01:5918, there are some that are 2,000 and not
00:02:02all of them charge the same surcharge because some charge you 700 or
00:02:0610,000 per day, so if the installment is 20 and you were one day late,
00:02:10by the next day you have to have the previous day's installment plus the next one,
00:02:14which is 40 plus the surcharge
00:02:17they charge, which is 10,000 pesos more, so if you didn't have 20 today,
00:02:20tomorrow you have to have it, Dani and
00:02:23Ana, because Jimena told me that the logic is that many times we fell
00:02:27or we fall, she takes a second
00:02:30loan to be able to
00:02:32comment, which I understand, poor thing, she does cover the first, the desperation and she couldn't, a little
00:02:36like that, the desperation,
00:02:39yes, because you want to comply, both with those
00:02:43who lend you because I always said they are doing me a favor and when I
00:02:46needed it, they gave me a hand, so I need to pay them back,
00:02:50but well, uh, it's by thinking, I think, also a little
00:02:53like that, uh, that I went crazy and well, I had the first
00:02:57suicide attempt because there was
00:03:00no way uh, I had bought things to sell
00:03:04and I didn't sell anything,
00:03:05so
00:03:08or what else do you know how to do, what do you have to
00:03:10sell,
00:03:13I now have what are floor rags,
00:03:15deodorant,
00:03:18cutlery, right, a little bit of everything, so to speak, and
00:03:22then clothes, used clothes that I also have that
00:03:25I got from the store, I have a lot left and you say that nothing sells, you
00:03:29go out. you go to a
00:03:31forward. feeling of what fair and people don't buy, they don't even spend on a floor
00:03:34rag,
00:03:36no, uh, no, the other day I went, I went for a while with
00:03:40my daughter, which was nice, I went to
00:03:43sell, I had only sold 1,500 pesos, 1,500,
00:03:47how many hours were you there to sell 1,500 pesos, I didn't even pay for the
00:03:50bus, three hours, three hours, 1,500 pesos, you don't even pay for a
00:03:54bus, uh, I see behind you a pot there,
00:03:58did you cook today in the pot behind you?
00:04:00continues, it is up to In the context of what is, no, no, no, that's the food that was
00:04:03prepared for the dog, oh, it's the dog's food, because I was going to ask you if you ate today at
00:04:07noon,
00:04:10no, you didn't
00:04:11eat, no, no, no, and the
00:04:15kids,
00:04:18uh, no, not either, because well, they on weekends
00:04:22uh, we stay up late, always watching videos and
00:04:25uh, well, they wake up late, so if they wake up now, they'll have some
00:04:29tea and then cook dinner. I'm going to translate and
00:04:33I may be wrong,
00:04:35staying up late watching videos is not being lazy, it's not
00:04:39being lazy, but it's a
00:04:42mechanism to trick the kids into going to sleep
00:04:46late, waking up late and not
00:04:49remembering that they have to eat at noon because there's nothing to eat, I'm telling those
00:04:53who are on the other side, it's a mechanism that people who don't have a
00:04:56dime use because the kids wake up late today, Saturday, and
00:05:00then they have mate cocido with some leftovers, bread
00:05:03perhaps, so they end up saving on lunch, that's right,
00:05:06no, but that's the reality for many people, it's not
00:05:10laziness, but necessity and you have to... hurt your stomach, do you understand what I'm
00:05:14saying, is it correct, Gime, what I'm saying
00:05:18no? Yes, it's like that, it's like
00:05:22that, in many places it's like that, we have a very big problem if
00:05:25we think that our kids and when I talk about our kids, I'm talking
00:05:29about the youngest of absolutely all
00:05:31families, because
00:05:35mom and dad want to have a treat and a treat
00:05:38has to be a barbecue, then they can't eat for... the whole
00:05:42day, look how bad things are, that if the treats
00:05:46end up being only some food we make for the
00:05:49day, really the situation is very bad, Caro, we repeat
00:05:53the phone number and if there's any message, we'll read it, exactly, well, we repeat
00:05:57the phone number for everyone on the other side, 11 61 76
00:06:0056 92 so you can send us your message, if you also
00:06:04want to collaborate, if you want to help, we'll be reading it live here, now I also
00:06:08ask the following, uh?
00:06:14Beyond what you said that you couldn't leave your house and that you were in a
00:06:18very complex mental
00:06:20health situation, uh, if there is at least some treatment, if there is someone who is
00:06:24accompanying you without the need for you to go and get admitted
00:06:28because obviously you have to decide between staying with your children
00:06:31and accompanying this situation they are experiencing or going and
00:06:35getting admitted and carrying out some type of corresponding
00:06:39accompaniment, there is nothing in the middle of that.
00:06:45No, in the middle of that there is nothing, no, we have a very
00:06:49big mental health problem in Argentina, if they want to see it, let
00:06:52them see it, let them see it, but first there is a
00:06:56tremendous, tremendous disinvestment, yes, but tremendous,
00:06:59tremendous, with the closure, in the same
00:07:02way, of mental health
00:07:05institutions and beyond all that
00:07:09also with the treatments that unfortunately do not reach... the people,
00:07:13well, in a few minutes we will also show you how the Colombians threaten, there are videos
00:07:16that are accompanying the story, not of how they arrive on motorcycles, uh, this
00:07:20week we showed you how they literally get off the motorcycle and
00:07:24go to a kiosk owner they had lent money to buy merchandise and they threaten them, they show alarm
00:07:28uh, uh, we are going to kill everyone, uh, if
00:07:31you go out, we kill your children, pay me, pay me, pay me and some
00:07:34enter into desperation, every day they are going to threaten you, Gime, every
00:07:38day they go or how often?
00:07:42Look, they haven't appeared for two weeks, two weeks, but at
00:07:45any moment, uh-huh, yes, uh-huh, and
00:07:49I left you a question, how many appear because it's like they calm down for a
00:07:52week and yes, and then they start
00:07:56again, uh, how many neighbors are in a situation like yours,
00:07:59Gime,
00:08:03neighbors, the truth is I can't tell you because I don't have
00:08:06contact like that, I, uh, I spend my time locked in my house, I only
00:08:10go out to sell, sometimes to buy, but
00:08:14I do have acquaintances who were in the
00:08:17same situation, they were also on the verge of suicide. Robert, what do you want to say?
00:08:20Go ahead. Yes, let's think that 20 million Argentines are in debt
00:08:24and 30% of that, approximately 6 million are
00:08:28delinquent. That is what is registered within the formal
00:08:31system. In the informal system, this also expands, so
00:08:35the situation is serious.
00:08:38Well, I'm going to tell you, I don't have a view from here, but I'm going to...
00:08:42tell Caro and Ilu if they can see the alias
00:08:46because I can't see it, both aliases are there at
00:08:49the same time, the idea is that people, we are not going to
00:08:53influence, decide if they want to lend a hand in some way,
00:08:57if they want to, I always say the same thing, here we have to understand and
00:09:00interpret the following: we are a patch, we are not going to save
00:09:04anyone's life, this is a push, it is
00:09:07a bit of relief, it is a bit of air and then life
00:10:12minors involved here, you realize the neatness of this
00:10:16patio, right,
00:10:19there are children's bicycles,
00:10:21toys, but look at the cleanliness. It's not
00:10:25because poverty, the lack
00:10:29of something material, also makes you dignified, this sweeping,
00:10:32having everything in order, here precisely
00:10:35Jimena and Graciela, the mother, are also single
00:10:39women, that's not a minor detail and
00:10:42single women are not only suffering now from this
00:10:46debt they are having, but
00:10:50however, nothing is missing in this house, love is not missing, but
00:10:53money is missing, of course. You realize that Graciela and Jimena here
00:10:57are both alone at the front, that's one thing,
00:11:01I also want to show you, Jimena, do you have that little ticket, the
00:11:04little package, look how one has to
00:11:06show, right, this is like a
00:11:10proof of payment, yes, yes, this is like a
00:11:14proof of daily
00:11:16payment, right, of what she has to pay, a receipt
00:11:20for the installments with the Colombian, yes, and
00:11:24she writes it down, with her handwriting and
00:11:27amount and the day of what Jimena
00:11:30can pay, realize this, right, how alternative
00:11:34the credit is, if the credit is so alternative, this is the
00:11:38proof, nothing more than this,
00:11:41Rodo, can we do a refresh? I don't know how many, if she had
00:11:44something in Jimena's account, we say she had nothing, now
00:11:48we're going to go with Brian, of course, but, but
00:11:51we can do a refresh, maybe people can give a hand in these minutes we have left in contact.
00:12:15uh, no, uh, my children are from different fathers, but none
00:12:18help, yes, we have contacts and everything, but they
00:12:22are not helping, uh, and
00:12:25even less the two oldest, each one has their family and
00:12:29it's like they say, I always managed alone, so
00:12:33it's like they say, you always managed alone, you'll always be
00:12:36able to, and one of them told me that once, so
00:12:39I preferred not to ask them for any
00:12:42help, it's where the 70% of fathers in Argentina are,
00:12:46guys, I say because
00:12:50seven out of 10 fathers do not collaborate, do not help, do not accompany
00:12:53the upbringing of their children. And Jimena's
00:12:57what she can, but she clarifies that these men already have their
00:13:01families,
00:13:05exactly, part of their family are also their children for whom they do not take
00:13:08responsibility and who Jimena maintains alone, but this reality that Jimena
00:13:11and Brian are depicting has to do with the two most important problems in
00:13:15our country, today, referring to Mental Health Day,
00:13:19precisely, in many cases, the highest levels of
00:13:22suicide among young people have to do with... that they don't find a way out,
00:13:26we are facing two problems, on the one hand, economic, the crisis
00:13:30there is with the highest delinquency levels in 20 years and in the same
00:13:34situation is the suicide rate which is the main cause of violent
00:13:38death in Argentina, I cannot ignore that they are
00:13:41directly related, it also attacks both cases of
00:13:45the youngest people in our country who should be the driving force for tomorrow,
00:13:48from 15 to 35
00:14:58they stole a van and recorded themselves
00:15:00escaping,
00:15:04the video was key to
00:15:05arresting them,
00:15:08the criminals are
00:15:10minors,
00:15:15well, thieves and stupid at the same time, not because they steal on
00:15:19the wrong path, these adolescent kids and then
00:15:22they record themselves and also, dear Jorge.
00:15:47the escape from this robbery, it is important to remember that the police personnel of the Buenos Aires police carried
00:15:50out three raids with two
00:15:53arrests, seized items that we are talking about firearms,
00:15:56electronic devices, cell phones in which there would be
00:16:00conversations between the minors, we are talking about complicity
00:16:03and an organization, a premeditation
00:16:06of this. This occurred in the northern area of Mar del Plata in the last
00:16:10hours, there are two minors detained and there are two minors at large who are being
00:16:14searched for because they know they are part of this criminal organization that has
00:16:18this seaside city
00:16:20on edge.
00:16:23talking about a criminal organization and you're talking about at least four minors,
00:16:26we'll add Pablo Gómez, of course, meaning that these
00:16:29kids, these delinquent teenagers
00:16:32are somehow one of the many
00:16:36Mar del Plata. Exactly, exactly, because there are several incidents
00:16:40due to the modus operandi, due to the description given by the victims,
00:16:44the aggrieved parties that fit the description of these
00:16:47minors, at least of the two who are detained, there are two who are at large who
00:16:51are also part of this gang, this organization, which I repeat,
00:16:54three raids, two detained, seized items, incriminating
00:16:57items, electronic devices, security
00:17:01cameras, for the moment they have not taken their preliminary statement, are they close to arresting
00:17:04those who are missing? They say yes, the police authorities say yes. that they would already
00:17:08be identified and would be arrested in the immediate future, it must be
00:17:11remembered that there is a significant number of videos from
00:17:15municipal devices that have them filmed
00:17:19and identified, which are also
00:17:23justice system of this municipality, two detained, two at large, they
00:17:26would have at least in the last week several armed robberies
00:17:30and a robbery, which is the van robbery, in which they were filmed, they filmed themselves and
00:17:33were incriminated at a media level on social networks, well, explain
00:17:37to me, Pablo, uh, what is the
00:17:40logic of these young thieves to steal a
00:17:44van, to steal a car, to steal a motorcycle and
00:17:47then upload it to social media, isn't there so much impunity among
00:17:51kids, among teenagers today? Well, I understand that it's a theme that has
00:17:55been recurring for several years, but I want to remind
00:17:59you that as of September we have what is called the criminal
00:18:02responsibility law for minors, up to it matters a
00:18:06lot, I tell you. No, but, but for the two who are
00:18:09detained, I'll be honest with you, thanks to this new law
00:18:13they won't be on the street, they'll be detained, and that's what's
00:18:17important to highlight, you know until when they'll be
00:18:20detained, Pablo? No, no, but they'll be detained, they'll be detained until
00:18:23they have to think about where they have to take them, when
00:18:27they realize that there isn't a penitentiary unit for minors, they'll
00:18:31go home, they'll be told, "Here, ma'am, I think this is yours," I'm going
00:18:34to tell you something, at least they won't take him to my house or your house. So, but that will be
00:18:38the place of detention where he has to be, the place of detention where he has to be as
00:18:42a person, as a person responsible for a crime, thank
00:18:46God, let them be behind bars, but
00:18:49there are already, behind bars, in the cold of
00:18:52the dungeon they have to be, in the cold of the dungeon they have to be, they don't have to be in
00:18:56the place where we are robbing people, in the cold of
00:18:59the dungeon is the best place for these criminals, Luis, we are
00:19:03conditioning penitentiary units, yes.
00:19:07Do we have them in Argentina? I ask now without sarcasm, we
00:19:11don't have them complete, we don't have them completed, work
00:19:14is being done, work is being done in several places to re-adapt
00:19:18detention institutes, which before
00:19:20were very lenient institutes in terms of security, with greater
00:19:24security so as not to mix minors, as the law says, with adults,
00:19:27what we see here is the banalization of evil by
00:19:31minors, no, they take this with a certain normality and almost as a
00:19:34game, this is the serious thing that also goes hand in hand,
00:19:38I have a contradiction here, Luis, why, they take it as a
00:19:42game, I think they are 14-year-old kids who, by not
00:19:45playing, as any other kid who has
00:19:49a supportive family structure plays, they play with these things, it's their
00:19:52game, they are playing, for me it's a way of
00:19:56playing in what is experienced today,
00:19:59this showing themselves in the images, if you add to that that
00:20:02they sniffed a little or took something stronger, I
00:20:06don't want to, I don't want to contradict you, it's not a game, these kids
00:20:10don't play, these kids don't care about other people's lives,
00:20:13these kids who film themselves, who have
00:20:17point, to threaten, to take a van product of the effort of a
00:20:21guy, of a person who worked all his life, if they have to kill before
00:20:25a sentence, they kill you, it's not a game, we agree with
00:20:28I agree with what he says, but I want to highlight this,
00:20:32until before, before September 5th, this video was a
00:20:35game, as Bicat says and as... he says from the 5th onwards it is a means of
00:20:39proof, it is proof, unfortunately it is like that, it is a means of
00:20:42proof, whether anyone likes it or not, judicially,
00:20:45criminally or in this case legally, today that
00:20:49video. which was a game before, today is a means of proof, a means
00:20:53of determinant, objective proof to ensure that these
00:20:56people remain detained, well speaking of Mar del Plata, this happened in Mar del
00:21:00Plata, punished by insecurity, Mar del Plata, punished by insecurity, Mar
00:24:33more complaints about photos with
00:24:36ia,
00:24:40students sell them on
00:24:42social media,
00:24:48they join against students from other
00:24:51schools,
00:24:58this that we are seeing is the Lomas de Zamora model
00:25:02school, it's a sit-in, a massive
00:25:04carried out,
00:25:08the issue is the following, they used real photographs,
00:25:12with AI, they modified them and
00:25:15not only did they sell them to other schools, girls
00:25:19between... 16 years old, but they
00:25:22also uploaded them to some pages that we can call triple
00:25:26X if you want to be able to mention them somehow,
00:25:28as if all this weren't enough, there's a
00:25:32system, Jorgito, uh,
00:25:35help me with this, because I don't know that much, there's a
00:25:38system in the Telegram application that in
00:25:41different groups you can carry out
00:25:44sales actions that are not always legal
00:25:48and that are not, so to speak, so controlled, the
00:25:52minors themselves said the following: look
00:25:55how macabre the action was that these
00:25:58minors carried out, they took
00:26:01photos of the... girls
00:26:04and put their phone real of the
00:26:06minors
00:26:09and sold them as if they were sex
00:26:11workers, telling everyone in that
00:26:15group that they could communicate with these girls
00:26:19to ask for money, they end up finding out this way, they start
00:26:22receiving hundreds, hundreds, thousands of
00:26:26messages telling them they want
00:26:28to sexually hire girls between 14 and...
00:26:3216 years old, you know, they know who,
00:26:36their friends, their own co-workers, the kids they were sitting
00:26:40with two benches, three benches ahead, three benches behind
00:26:43and you will say, there was a tremendous
00:26:46penalty, the kids were separated,
00:26:49no, the school had this information for a month, the
00:26:53school let the photographs circulate for a month, the
00:26:57school told the mothers and fathers of the
00:27:01victims absolutely nothing.
00:27:03And they ended up finding out from the minors themselves, exactly, exactly what
00:27:07you're saying, this introduction is valid,
00:27:10besides, it must be remembered that a second school is also added, which is the
00:27:14Thomas Edison school in Ituzaingó, which has
00:27:17several minors who were also subjected to this same ploy,
00:27:21it seems that it would be a single gang that divided the work,
00:27:25so to speak, because they worked in the same way, the modus operandi was
00:27:28exactly the same, they took the real photos with artificial
00:27:32intelligence, they worked on them and made a fraud regarding the images,
00:27:36they published them on different platforms, they published the cell phone numbers
00:27:40of each of these children, they even put real names and surnames,
00:27:43yes, not only that, the absolute madness,
00:27:47look, in the Thomas Edison of Ituzaingó there is a child
00:27:50who is 7 years old whose image was used
00:27:53on platforms with nudity and with sexual
00:27:57activity to promote and sell that image and consequently
00:28:00also that child's phone. who would have a phone number, would have
00:28:04a phone number, I don't know how they accessed it, the situation is that the schools, both
00:28:08Loma de Zamora and Ituzaingó, kept this situation
00:28:11in reserve for a while, Lomas for a month and Ituzaingó
00:28:15for about 10 days, but what happened in that time
00:28:18these minors, these minors were in a way
00:28:22bothered in a very way contacted, identified
00:28:25with the images and now I also want to clarify
00:28:29this and add this. there is a collective
00:28:34fear of the underage adolescents themselves,
00:28:36first of all, there must be authorities
00:28:40who understand that this is not a
00:28:43game, they are not playing, this is
00:28:46pedophilia, they are pedophiles,
00:28:49there is commercialization, they sell the images, guys,
00:28:53it's tremendous what is happening, this was organized, premeditated
00:28:56and it was planned,
00:29:00here it meets all the requirements to say that it is a criminal organization of minors, yes,
00:29:04of minors, but look, this also begins by
00:29:08becoming public within the educational sphere of that
00:29:11school in Lomas de Zamora as a consequence of one of these
00:29:15minors who was part of this gang feeling
00:29:18repentant, why? Because he was not a participant in the profits that the
00:29:21group was having, we are talking about a minor who was not
00:29:25receiving part of that loot, which
00:29:29was to collect a significant amount of money and that made him
00:29:32disclose this ploy, as a consequence of that, a
00:29:36second school already emerges, the Thomas Edison school,
00:29:40today I am talking to police authorities and there is absolute secrecy
00:29:42of the summary and it is being said very strongly that there would be at least two
00:29:46more schools that in the next few hours will also come to light with this situation that
00:29:50many are experiencing, I would love to know what I am going to
00:29:53say is not right, but the
00:29:56photographs of the girls were circulated
00:29:59on XXX pages, why don't we know the faces
00:30:03of the criminals who carried out the
00:30:06modification, the girls are also underage, they are all underage, they are all underage
00:30:10and they identified them with name and surname and uploaded them to XXX pages
00:30:14and put them in different telegram
00:30:17groups with the real phone number, yes, but
00:30:20again, these minors and that's why we were talking about the age of
00:30:24criminal responsibility just now, they are punishable, that's why two minors
00:30:26of 15 years old are already indicted, point to that point, you know
00:30:30that we have a and article
00:30:33128 specifies several actions for what
00:30:36you said, producing is one,
00:30:39financing, offering, trading,
00:30:43publishing, facilitating,
00:30:47article 128 of the criminal code speaks of that
00:30:50facilitation of exposing an
00:30:53implicit image because it is penalized on
00:30:57social networks, let's see, in turn asking for a...
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