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00:00:00they leave the house, they leave the minor alone and the dog
00:00:04goes through a skylight, they had gone to pick up their daughter who was rollerblading,
00:00:07when they return they find that the dog
00:00:10was massacring him, was doing it, these
00:00:13killer dogs directly pull and tear, well, the child was
00:00:17screaming in agony,
00:00:21imagine a bloodbath, no, terrible, it was terrible and they
00:00:25couldn't get the dog off, they couldn't get it off, these are dogs
00:00:28that when they... get that way, it's very difficult and they don't respond to the
00:00:32owner, they don't respond to anyone, that's
00:00:35why the end of this creature, this Homero who
00:00:39may he rest in peace, my little angel, it must have been terrible because
00:00:43you know what, he didn't even realize the dog entered, the dog
00:00:46knew the child was there and the jealousy, because many times it's the jealousy
00:00:50of animals being inside their home, that leads to
00:00:54these misfortunes,
00:00:56sadly eh, he couldn't tell the story.
00:01:00Eh Homero, barely 4 years old, is no longer with us today and
00:01:05other times apply, from the moment of the godmother is indeed detained and she is rightly
00:01:08detained, she is responsible for leaving him alone, involuntary
00:01:11manslaughter, it's strange that she has a
00:01:15crime with such a penalty of expectation that they would have detained her.
00:01:18Perhaps we need to calm things down a bit
00:01:21and in a week she will be released.
00:01:24What happens, Pampa, is that we remember that today, involuntary
00:01:28manslaughter in traffic accidents, generally
00:01:30today they detain you because you know who they want? They want people to start
00:01:33learning, they want them to start learning and to be more
00:01:36responsible, in this case leaving a 4-year-old alone, but
00:01:40the thing is, why do you raise an animal in such a way that it's
00:01:43like a loaded weapon? Why do they do that?
00:01:47Animals are territorial, that's the thing, but it's how they are
00:01:50raised, the animal
00:01:53happiness, but incredible what isn't born that way, they raise it to be a
00:01:56kind of, of course, many times it's stigmatized that it's a pitbull, I mean, but no... one
00:02:00second because we are already in the territory of the unbeatable kids, how are you doing,
00:02:03kids, how are you doing, again we have to report a
00:02:07tragedy of this magnitude, it's a horror, a horror, it's tremendous, anyway
00:02:11I have, I have an opinion on that, it's how they are raised, but also
00:02:15it's the type of bite that this animal has, which
00:02:18ethologically, that is, due to the type of breed, makes it more dangerous because
00:02:22when it bites it tears, because another
00:02:25dog, a poodle it's called, of course, a poodle or a
00:02:28small dog like the one you have can bite you because it might be badly
00:02:32raised, let's say, or badly
00:02:33educated.
00:02:37Of course, anyway, a dog that attacks a 4-year-old child of medium size
00:02:41is, well, it's impossible. Unfortunately, it's terrible, we have to
00:02:44say that there are a lot of
00:02:46this of these breeds that the dogs turn out good and don't do anything, they are the typical ones that don't
00:02:50bite, but what I mean is if you have one that you see is a
00:02:54bit aggressive, it's complicated. It's a weapon you have in your house, that is,
00:02:59Belén Fraga, the character that made her having one of these and
00:03:01training it so it doesn't attack anyone, I think it's more serious that people raise the dog
00:03:05to be a deterrent, of course, a deterrent
00:03:09against possible robberies or things like that, which for a long
00:03:12time years
00:03:14Rottweiler, well, I had my dog for 12 years, you trained it in a
00:03:17way, no, I had her trained and she was the best dog in the world, so I never had the problem of her biting
00:03:21anyone, but to walk her, you walk her with a leash, with a leash and she was
00:03:25fierce with dogs, so I never got distracted so she wouldn't attack
00:03:29juvenile court to file an official any dog because it was always a disadvantage for the other dog because it's a Rottweiler,
00:03:32so always on a leash, taking care of her and well, everyone
00:03:37eat, from was afraid, but I mean that after having that dog, I would never again
00:03:40have a dog that can bite
00:03:43because it's a
00:03:45responsibility
00:03:48for your daughter to play, look,
00:03:50and it's true, it when the dog ended its life, the last year
00:03:53she was sick, you don't know, no one could, you couldn't get close to the dog
00:03:57because it hurt her, she would lash out. It was complicated,
00:04:00so I had raised her all my life, she never did anything and suddenly she bites,
00:04:04she bites hard, she has teeth like this, no, besides they tear, they have a type of
00:04:08bite that pulls, they
00:04:10tear you off,
00:04:12it's a horror, now there's a whole bill for a long time and now they
00:04:17close loss, or is it something that you have presented it again for what is called responsible ownership, because
00:04:20if you have a dog of this nature
00:04:22critical moment of you have to walk it with a leash, yes, with a
00:04:24muzzle, with a tag that identifies
00:04:28that dog with a specific.
00:04:37Well guys, we're going to start unbeatable, we invite you if you want to stay watching the program, have a good
00:04:41week, enjoy the rest of the holiday, we will be here
00:04:45until 4 in the afternoon, you are in unbeatable, you are in Crónica.
00:05:00And this is the first of the topics we have today, Valentín
00:05:04Shan, heartbreaking
00:05:07testimony in an article he did in Infobae, let's
00:05:10analyze it and let's show you.
00:05:13The most important moments of this interview he gave, eh, it left
00:05:16us all stunned,
00:05:20furthermore, a new femicide, this
00:05:24happened in Rosario, the body of a woman who was intensely
00:05:27searched for by her family, appeared in a
00:05:30suitcase, in a little while we will have all the
00:05:32details,
00:05:40and also long lines for... a job, we will be live
00:05:43there with the Crónica mobile talking to people,
00:05:47what are their expectations, how much they want to earn, how long they have been
00:05:50out of work, today unbeatable, until 4 in the afternoon, come on, it's a holiday,
00:06:06until 2 in the afternoon, we are live unbeatable, this is the topic of the day and
00:06:09this is the face that left us over the weekend. A terrible
00:06:13bitter taste, the hell that not only
00:06:16meant for this boy, who is today a successful young man,
00:06:20having lost his mother when he was only 8 years old,
00:06:23but all the nightmare he lived afterwards at the hands of his only
00:06:27father, his father who was supposed to take care of him, did the
00:06:30opposite, left him cold food, yelled at him, pulled
00:06:33his hair, hit him,
00:06:36humiliated him, he lived a true nightmare until he could
00:06:39get out of there and told it for the first time, incredible, the reality that
00:06:43leaves everyone speechless because we have to say,
00:06:46Gustavo, the Shankelevich family is a
00:06:49very famous family in Argentina and very loved by the entire media, let's remember
00:06:53that Gustavo's father was the one who brought television to Argentina, he is a
00:06:57media person all his life where one thinks that
00:07:00I don't know, having everything and being able to do what they want, everything is
00:07:05happened to this boy, losing his mother and then all the
00:07:09ordeal he went through with his biological father, we would never have imagined this. And
00:07:12something that I was also thinking about, that grandmother, who is Cris
00:07:16Morena, is a grandmother trained to work with children,
00:07:19to warn if those children were suffering something, her own grandchildren were
00:07:23suffering something, I think something was happening to them, Cris and
00:07:27Gustavo knew it all along, that's why for me they end up taking
00:07:31charge and adopting in some way these two children,
00:07:34because what he says in the interview is that he was adopted by Gustavo, he is the one who
00:07:38ends up taking care of the children, so eh
00:07:41he probably knew, but it must not have been easy to
00:07:44solve that problem, let's start
00:07:47sharing, great interview by Tati Xapiro, our colleague, we recognize
00:07:51her from Infobae, great interview that manages to
00:07:54get moments like
00:07:59yours that
00:08:01you have every right to tell, yes,
00:08:04no, as I told you, there were
00:08:07beatings, shouting,
00:08:09mistreatment,
00:08:13I was, this is a bit, I take it
00:08:16comically, but I
00:08:19was a very bad student, I never liked studying, now the 8 hours
00:08:23I spent at school were the best 8 hours of the day, because I didn't go back to my
00:08:26house, because I didn't go back, because I knew that when I came back,
00:08:30hell would break loose, it was, it was
00:08:33constant, I knew I had no
00:08:35escape, that is, from grabbing me by the
00:08:39hair, dragging me down the stairs, hitting me, leaving me locked in the
00:08:42room, bringing me cold food 4 hours later,
00:08:46putting it on the floor, here,
00:08:50the person also, what beyond the beatings and
00:08:53violence, the person who was supposedly supposed to
00:08:57take care of us after losing our mother at 7
00:09:01years old when we lost her and this 2 years
00:09:03later, that is, it was
00:09:07all very hard, you tell me this and as a mother it breaks me,
00:09:11that is. It's that I have children and
00:09:13I think about not being there and that the person
00:09:17his father, eh, instead
00:09:19of taking care of them and protecting them from the world, he mistreats them, it seems
00:09:23impossible to me, it gives me such powerlessness
00:09:27and hatred, yes, it's like that, and one
00:09:30as a victim also sees it that way, that is, not only are
00:09:34you hitting me and hurting me, but
00:09:37you are the person who should least do that, who should
00:09:39protect us, eh, did Valen take care
00:09:43of you at that time, you inside that house?
00:09:47No, we were alone,
00:09:50we were alone. And what you are describing was something
00:09:54habitual, yes, it was habitual every
00:09:57day, I mean, to clarify, once is already
00:10:00wrong, no, yes, yes, but it was every day,
00:10:04it was every day, especially the mistreatment,
00:10:07especially the denigration, I don't know if that's
00:10:10how you say it, but constantly denigrating your own children, for
00:10:14anything, for anything, what I, I mean, what he
00:10:18told me, I haven't heard anyone say
00:10:21in my entire life, nor would it cross my
00:10:24mind to tell him the atrocities he has told me, let alone the
00:10:28beatings, no, but looking back in retrospect, much
00:10:32of that psychological damage, sometimes
00:10:36wounds deeper than a blow,
00:10:39eh, and then that's when we started, we started
00:10:43talking and at first they didn't
00:10:46listen to us, we talked about yours, which well,
00:10:49terrible, terrible what he told, I really, the
00:10:53father now that it has gone viral so much.
00:11:03Eh, from what this kid is saying, his father's brain got stuck, I don't know, it's like when his wife died, I have
00:11:07some doubts about that, which nothing justifies, not
00:11:09of course, far from justifying it, I don't even know him, but I say
00:11:13because otherwise, how can you treat your children that way, but I say what is my doubt? I have
00:11:16a doubt in the first place because he also had another child, that is, he has four
00:11:20children, the youngest, Azul, is the one who stayed living with
00:11:23him for a while,
00:11:25she has her own life, of course, she's an adult, but he has another child he had in a second marriage,
00:11:29eh, if you don't want to have children, the
00:11:32most, let's say, the most natural thing would be for him not to have had another
00:11:36family, what I believe is that within that same family, with
00:11:39Romina included, there was an entrenched issue of violence
00:11:42even before all this that Valentín is bravely
00:11:46telling, if I may use the word, in the interview that Tati Shapiro did, for me
00:11:50this came from before and there were things that were even linked to Romina and
00:11:54probably. with something that for Darío was not a
00:11:58space he would have wanted, which doesn't justify anything, but I want to say that I believe it's an
00:12:02issue that comes from before, at one point he asks him if he was
00:12:05violent with his mom and he says no, but well he didn't
00:12:09know.
00:12:12Of course, and
00:12:14he would leave it, it was like constant mistreatment,
00:12:18like
00:12:21food at the door of the room, that is, the children also suffering.
00:12:25They lost their mother and the guy acted like that, for me he had a problem, I don't know,
00:12:28psychological, that he couldn't handle the situation and became aggressive, otherwise it doesn't
00:12:32explain it. I would like to delve exactly into what you are saying,
00:12:35because it's true that from here, what one tries, obviously, as it's very
00:12:39unbearable to listen, one tries to understand what could
00:12:43have happened in the mind of a widower to
00:12:46then unleash all his violence, his anger, his frustration on
00:12:50his children, but the truth is that knowing very, very
00:12:53close cases, you say it would be quite the opposite, it would be
00:12:57quite the opposite, I mean, what worse can happen to you than losing your mom, of course, you
00:13:01unite more, the only thing they needed was love, those
00:13:03children, I don't know, it moves me a lot that he
00:13:07also, after so much time, needs to make it public, I think that here too
00:13:11there is something, this also draws
00:13:13attention because although the
00:13:17family has been in the news for some tragedy that occurred very
00:13:21recently, which it's better not to talk about, but I mean
00:13:24it never... argued with things eh about their private
00:13:27life, absolutely Chris Morena never spoke about her private life, not
00:13:31even when they divorced, I mean, 25 years together, in
00:13:34'97 they divorced and it could have been a divorce eh where the
00:13:38media world got involved, never anything, it was on
00:13:41good terms, I mean this, nothing was said about
00:13:44all that and well, I think one, I think, sorry to interrupt you, but I'm
00:13:48also thinking about what you say, Lore, I think that clearly a person
00:13:52doesn't wake up overnight as a despicable
00:13:55being with their children, I think it's clearly a person who is not
00:13:59not, of course, not affectionate, not loving,
00:14:03not caring and that probably that situation, because it's true,
00:14:06death when it surprises you in such a way, not an illness, I mean, when
00:14:10it's something sudden, it disrupts family structures a lot
00:14:15can bring out something from your personality that hasn't been
00:14:18worked on, it's feasible but not to this
00:14:21level, as if he had blamed the children for some... things that had
00:14:25happened to him internally in his relationship with Romina, thinking about that, as if something
00:14:29of what happened
00:14:33now, following Lore's reasoning, he was later able to meet another
00:14:37woman, form a family, eh, the
00:14:39sister of theirs, Azul, Azul, who stayed with the father, speaks well
00:14:43of the father, I don't know if you heard good things about the
00:14:46father, I didn't hear anything, in fact, the grandfather's post
00:14:50says well no, because people start to comment and say
00:14:53well, how strange. Because the violence was supposedly
00:14:57entrenched in those two brothers and eh not on the girl
00:15:00and the girl is, in fact, not a girl anymore,
00:15:04she is the only one who uses her father's last name, Jordano, and the
00:15:07grandfather clarifies, well, she also suffered a lot because then he also says
00:15:11it in a part of the interview, at one point she
00:15:14felt eh well, like left alone, she is not
00:15:1820 years old, the brothers separated and didn't speak for a while, 20 years, Azul,
00:15:21sorry.
00:15:25escapes family conflicts, it doesn't matter
00:15:28the social stratum, nor how well the family is doing, nor how successful the
00:15:32family is, they still have the same problems as anyone, this also seems
00:15:36to humanize this famous family of the media much
00:15:40more, at some point one imagines that they are
00:15:43the family is all perfect, all wonderful because
00:15:47they have money, they have fame, they have
00:15:50everything, they do what they like well, he himself is now a car
00:15:54racer, he is a pilot and yes he is
00:15:57involved in TC, I don't know if he races in first division in TC
00:16:01I think not but he is in a category, the second one, but also telling that his
00:16:05grandfather saved his life, that is, a lot of things that
00:16:08surely have built this story that he needed to tell now,
00:16:12all that time passing and all that reconstruction he was
00:16:16doing to one day make the decision and tell this
00:16:19truth. The interview is extremely profound and also I
00:16:22think that, like never before, Tatiana says it, it affects her almost on a
00:16:26personal level, this story, knowing that he sits down precisely looking for this
00:16:30space to tell something, let's see more, come on, let's
00:16:32see. My grandfather
00:16:36Gustavo. He would take each grandchild once a week
00:16:39separately to lunch from school, that's when
00:16:43we started talking individually, me on
00:16:46my part, Franco on his part
00:16:49and he realized that something serious was happening
00:16:53and and that we started asking:
00:16:56we don't want to live in that house anymore, we don't want to live in that house anymore, we want to live
00:17:00with you and he listened to us, he was the first
00:17:04person who listened to us, my grandfather Gustavo,
00:17:08he would take us out once a week.
00:17:11How wonderful, that trust, because sometimes that trust
00:17:15he also sought it in a space of
00:17:18therapy and he also says that it was quite the opposite
00:17:21because he would go and tell eh what he was
00:17:24experiencing, the ordeal he was going through and it seems that
00:17:28there was something about that mechanism that was not safe, that the therapist would go and
00:17:32tell the father this made
00:17:35it worse, but this anyway, eh, now we are going to talk, I know
00:17:39we have a chat with Lic. Claudia
00:17:42Grifa, who is a psychologist, to me it seems crazy what
00:17:46this topic is with therapy, I don't, I don't
00:17:50understand, but for me yes, but when they are minors, the feedback is given to
00:17:53you, with the child, he is going to the psychologist and the
00:17:57psychologist calls me for feedback, he is 8
00:18:01years old, but if you are telling him that the father treats him badly, mistreats him,
00:18:05pulls his hair, beats him, tells the father you
00:18:08mistreat him, you have to ask a third party for help, I would like
00:18:12to meet with your grandfather or your grandmother or someone from the family, hey,
00:18:16the child told me this. Apropos of what
00:18:19he says, when he tells, they start telling the grandfather, he also says that they had
00:18:22told the paternal grandparents before, that is, Darío's
00:18:26parents and they said,
00:18:28well, it's very bad, he's having a bad time, you have to
00:18:32understand him, support him, but of course, the children
00:18:35felt in complete solitude, except for that figure of grandfather
00:18:39Gustavo, Claudia Grifa is already connected, she has come
00:18:43to the studio, she has been with us live, now we
00:18:46greet you, welcome to Crónica Claudia from her home via
00:18:50Zoom, how are you, how are you, thank you for
00:18:53inviting me, specifically the first mandatory question is, you
00:18:57have a patient who is a child, he tells you that his
00:19:00mom died and that his father mistreats him, are you going
00:19:03it ethical to tell the father, who is the one who
00:19:07mistreats him and not tell a third party, this person
00:19:11seems to me that I would convene a family member who is
00:19:14trustworthy and who can adequately accompany this
00:19:18child because this father is not being able to respond
00:19:22as a father, no exactly. Now, regarding
00:19:25that, Claudia, something we are debating here on the
00:19:28floor, eh, death when it is so
00:19:31sudden, from a, from your
00:19:33wife, it is true that it can disorganize you, I imagine, and
00:19:37make you more sensitive or
00:19:41perhaps that personal situation does not allow you to
00:19:44cover everything a father should at that age,
00:19:48but can someone become, in many ways, violent
00:19:51due to an episode, due to such a
00:19:54already have from before and well, it appears at that
00:19:59the family, we don't know exactly
00:20:02what happened to Valentín's father, but clearly a
00:20:06grief can trigger not eh this type
00:20:10of behavior, it can trigger these behaviors or
00:20:13it can trigger others too, in this case perhaps
00:20:16there was a discharge on the eldest son, perhaps it was not
00:20:20on all the children, I understand that Franco also suffered
00:20:24violent situations and it was on both
00:20:28male children, no, so yes it can
00:20:31be eh not just any father, this
00:20:34man clearly has some difficulty. eh to
00:20:38process in another way with symbolic resources his
00:20:42sadness, perhaps this was there before, Claudia, this that you
00:20:45point out about the issue of boys, because if I don't
00:20:48misunderstand, he has a girl in the next marriage, I don't know if the
00:20:52children have this clear,
00:20:54eh, why would that difference be made, what do you think can
00:20:58trigger a father to carry
00:21:02out these episodes of violence on his sons and not on his daughters,
00:21:06women, well, there can be many
00:21:08reasons, I understand that it could be perhaps some identification issue,
00:21:12no, eh, perhaps that's why he didn't exercise
00:21:16violence on the girl, eh, and yes
00:21:20on his sons, no, some identification issue, some
00:21:24issue of a certain image that these children reflected
00:21:27back to him that caused rejection, what Valentín says is
00:21:30that he felt rejected by this
00:21:33father, he couldn't appeal to him, that besides that
00:21:37this, because it's true that violence on the
00:21:41body is a physical pain, it passes but
00:21:44not the pain, the psychological pain, it leaves
00:21:48scars for life.
00:22:00can have as an object, it is directed we see cases where there is a person who
00:22:04is violent in the family and circulates very well outside the
00:22:07family environment, so yes it can have some
00:22:11object over which it discharges violence, sometimes
00:22:14there are other children and it discharges violence with one in
00:22:17particular only and not with all or only with the mother,
00:22:20Claudia, could we be facing a
00:22:23presumptive case of malpractice with this young man's
00:22:27therapist who, far from rescuing him,
00:22:30overexposed him to situations of violence?
00:22:34It's very difficult to reach that
00:22:38conclusion like that, eh, it's
00:22:41also eh notable that she didn't call
00:22:44another family member, more than
00:22:47anything because beyond that... there
00:22:51was a very explicit complaint and very explicit situations of violence
00:22:54where there was no room for doubt, but Claudia, listen to me,
00:22:58perhaps both needed this help and this whole journey could have
00:23:01been avoided, Claudia, listen to me, using
00:23:04common sense, okay, without
00:23:07relying so much on psychology books, if a child tells you
00:23:11that mom died and the father beats him and treats him badly,
00:23:15how does the therapist think of telling the same father
00:23:18and even knowing... asks who the family is, because she didn't ignore
00:23:22that there's Gustavo, there's Cris, there's Mengano, there's Fulano, you
00:23:26say, hey, who do you get along with? Grandfather Gustavo is divine, I would
00:23:29like to talk to Grandfather Gustavo, but you don't give me his phone number, you make a
00:23:33phone call and solve it, no, no, I mean, and don't take me for a psychologist, I'm
00:23:37using common sense, what do you think concretely about that?
00:23:40I would summon, I cannot speak for what another professional did,
00:23:44yes I would summon those who are the emotional
00:23:46references,
00:23:49that's good. Exactly. Here this grandfather acted as
00:23:52a father, I would summon this person. Does it not correspond to
00:23:56a judicial intervention by that
00:23:58therapist? Yes, she is responsible for
00:24:01requesting it, making a complaint and the child is telling
00:24:05you that he suffers real physical violence, it's not
00:24:08subject to interpretation. The father gives him
00:24:11cold food, tells him he's good for nothing, leaves him locked in the room, he
00:24:15pegaba no da llamar un
00:24:19complaint? He would convene
00:24:22some relative and let the relative
00:24:25decide how to proceed, not the family has to be able to
00:24:29sustain this decision as a
00:24:32relative, because besides that, here there's a family with
00:24:36resources in every sense of the word, I mean, there was a loving,
00:24:39attentive grandfather who didn't play, accompanied,
00:24:41supported. Now, Claudia, I have a question for you, psychologically
00:24:45speaking, why would he, today, who is already a man, a big
00:24:49boy, who is already exercising his
00:24:53profession or what he wants to do, need to
00:24:57tell it to such a massive medium like this, why do
00:25:00you think he did it? I think
00:25:03that any person who has this need to first disclose,
00:25:07perhaps sees it from a place where they can help others, that
00:25:10they can, besides, they don't have a family with great
00:25:13exposure, it has been silenced. He perhaps felt
00:25:17this, that when he resorted... his paternal family
00:25:21also there, well,
00:25:23minimized. It's a way, I think, to
00:25:27heal a little, to put into words, to expose what happened
00:25:30to him. Also, there isn't a
00:25:33search, I don't know, I mean, I also see here a
00:25:36justice of certain, that person
00:25:40we all know his name, we know his
00:25:43surname, he formed a new family, there's a
00:25:47sister who stayed living with him.
00:25:57Even, I'll tell you more, an
00:25:59inheritance. Yes, yes, from whom?
00:26:03It seems to me that the inheritance comes more from the mother's side than from the
00:26:06father's side, that's why, but what do I know, finally
00:26:09say, look, you truly,
00:26:13let's take him out,
00:26:16let's take him out because he has to, after behaving the way he
00:26:20behaved, also have access to an inheritance. Social
00:26:23condemnation, social condemnation, because legally, judicially, many
00:26:26years have
00:26:27passed.
00:26:31I think so, yes. No, but he was a minor, but he was a minor
00:26:35at the time, besides, but listen, notice that the statute of limitations, but not 20 years ago, he
00:26:38was, he is 23 and it was when he was seven, that is, from seven onwards, but
00:26:41excuse me, for each crime, for each crime there is an
00:26:45assigned statute of limitations, it's not the same to kill a person and bury them in your
00:26:49garden as to run over someone. Yes, Curly, but the
00:26:52violence against minors, precisely from Piaza's law, what it does is
00:26:56that you have a time that can elapse so that the
00:27:00child understands that what happened to him was called violence, harassment, abuse, I don't
00:27:04know what, and that then
00:27:07understand it's for sexual abuse
00:27:10within families, that's why I say theoretically, the years start to
00:27:14run from the moment the victim speaks, not from the, it doesn't prescribe
00:27:18you said, Claudia, in cases of sexual
00:27:21abuse. Of sexual
00:27:24abuse,
00:27:27it's another thing because otherwise we are talking about different crimes.
00:27:30Violating is 8 years. For me it's how much? 8 years, well
00:27:34you see it's prescribed. We have another little bit
00:27:38more to show from the interview, listen to
00:27:41what he said because the truth is I think it's the most
00:27:44difficult part of the whole interview with Tati, let's
00:27:48watch it.
00:27:50What was that? It was going out to find a way out, it was a
00:27:54black hole, it turned dark at one point, it didn't turn very
00:27:58dark, I
00:28:01reached a point where, I really didn't want to
00:28:04live, I had many thoughts of
00:28:08death,
00:28:11I even said, well, I'll go with my mom, I'll be better off
00:28:14there, there's no point in continuing
00:28:18like this. September 28, 2010, it was a spring
00:28:21afternoon like any other, until a piece of news paralyzed Argentina, Romina
00:28:25had died, she was barely 36 years old,
00:28:29after exercising, Romina suffered a decompensation and was
00:28:32rushed to the central hospital of San Isidro, doctors tried to
00:28:36resuscitate her for approximately 50 minutes, but finally her
00:28:40death was confirmed, but to understand why her departure generated such a
00:28:43commotion, you have to understand who Romina Yan was for Argentine
00:28:47television, her story began in 1991 in
00:28:51"Jugate Conmigo", her mother Chris Morena's program, but Romina wanted to show
00:28:54that she could build her own path and she did. In
00:28:571995 came
00:29:01the protagonist of "Chiquititas" and one of the most beloved faces for
00:29:05a whole generation, for four seasons she accompanied millions of children
00:29:08with a story that did not remain only on television, there were
00:29:11songs, albums, theater and a phenomenon that even
00:29:15transcended Argentine borders, but Romina was not trapped in that
00:29:18character, then came fictions like "Provócame", "Abre tus ojos",
00:29:22"Amor mío", and "Bella y Bestia", showing that she could also conquer the
00:29:26adult public and in her last years she returned to that universe that had seen her
00:29:29grow, participating in "Casi Ángeles". Romina was also
00:29:33a mother of three children, a wife and a woman deeply connected to her
00:29:37family and perhaps that's why, when she died, not only an
00:29:41actress was said goodbye to, someone who had been part of the childhood of
00:29:44millions was said goodbye to. The next day, relatives, friends and colleagues
00:29:47said goodbye to her at the Jardín de Paz in Delviso, but her true legacy remained in
00:29:51another place, the songs, the characters, those who still remember
00:29:55Belén Fraga and a generation that grew up with her.
00:29:58Today, September 28, marks 16 years since that
00:30:02afternoon, 16 years without Romina Yan, but there are people who,
00:30:06even if they are no longer physically present, continue to live in the memory of
00:30:09all those who once made them part of their
00:30:12childhood.
00:30:17September 28, 2010, was a spring afternoon like any
00:30:21other until a news story for fiction and reality merge, no, because
00:30:25Romina Yan played Belén Fraga, a kind
00:30:28of stepmother who took care of a lot of children who had lost
00:30:32their mother and father and were in an orphanage, in a children's
00:30:35home. Some time later, her own
00:30:39death caused her son a very similar story, only
00:30:42he doesn't have a foster home, the home he is left in without this
00:30:46mother is with a completely violent,
00:30:48aggressive father, who harassed him, who showed
00:30:51a lot of contempt towards him and his brother, not so
00:30:55much towards the girl, I mean, how, how impressive, also
00:30:58within the home.