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00:00:00September marks 16 years since that afternoon, 16
00:00:03years without Rominayan, but there are people who, even if they are no longer
00:00:07physically present, continue to live in the memory of all those who once
00:00:10made them part of their
00:00:12childhood.
00:00:17September 28, 2010, it was a spring afternoon, like
00:00:21any other, until a news story fiction and reality merged, not because
00:00:25Rominayan played Belén Fraga, a kind of stepmother who took
00:00:28care of a lot of children who had lost their mom or dad and were in an
00:00:32orphanage, in a children's home, some time
00:00:35later, her own death
00:00:38caused her son a very similar story, only he doesn't have a foster
00:00:42home, the home where he
00:00:44use it as many times as you want. With is left without that mom is with a totally violent,
00:00:47aggressive dad who harassed him, who showed
00:00:50a lot of contempt towards him, towards his brother, perhaps not
00:00:53so much towards the girl, I mean, how impressive it is also
00:00:56within the home where this story takes place, which is already
00:01:00aberrant in anyone, but in this one where his
00:01:03mom had represented an
00:01:06actress who had to take care of children without
00:01:09episode, these episodes of mom and without dad, I was also thinking about the
00:01:12fortune these kids
00:01:15had to have that grandfather who decided to listen to them, Gustavo
00:01:18Yankelevich, listen to them, pay
00:01:21attention, make a very important decision
00:01:24such as subjecting all this to a judicial matter, asking for
00:01:28custody of the children. having it, obtaining it, despite
00:01:32the struggle he went through, because Valentín also tells it in his
00:01:36three, three interview, Darío, for that not to happen, I mean, asking for forgiveness belatedly, obviously,
00:01:40I mean, having that grandfather was very important for those kids, because it could
00:01:44not have happened, look what happened to them with the other grandparents and also very healing,
00:01:48because a child who at a very young age was thinking of
00:01:51committing suicide, suddenly having a grandfather for whom you
00:01:55feel it was worth staying alive, that it was worth moving forward, and he says
00:01:59that his main dream is to form a
00:02:02young people, I'm not seeing that many family. A grandfather who listened,
00:02:05who supported him, who gave him love because he needed that.
00:02:09Love for children, you have to listen to them. As a mother, the truth is that when
00:02:12my children tell me they don't want to be with someone, I listen to them again,
00:02:16because there's a reason, you know, when children don't
00:02:18what a mess like someone, you always have to pay attention to that. Yes, totally,
00:02:21Claudia. What do you think about this we are
00:02:24talking about, psychologically speaking, from your point of view as a
00:02:28psychologist? I'm thinking,
00:02:33get ruined. Now you're thinking what you're going to this child lost his mother, and at the same time, he also lost his
00:02:36father. He lost his paternal grandparents, too. So he went
00:02:40through a lot of losses.
00:02:43Luckily, he was able to recover thanks to the love of this grandfather who
00:02:46acts as a father, right? Clearly,
00:02:49and all that history has
00:02:53managed not to define him completely. I mean, everything that happened to him
00:02:57is not his future. He has
00:03:00the possibility and the desire to have a family. I mean, he has
00:03:03been able to overcome this and move forward,
00:03:07but how could he not have all those ideas? In a way, he talks at one
00:03:11point about suicidal ideation, and how could he not? He loses his
00:03:14means reliving everything mother, rejected by his father, the father is completely
00:03:18dismissed as a caregiver figure. Now,
00:03:23besides, it's remembering what I think I had already asked you, I'm coming back to this topic because I find it interesting to understand why
00:03:27a kid, now an adult, because all this happened to him when he was a
00:03:31child, who rebuilt his life, who is fulfilling his
00:03:34dream of being a runner, why does he decide to tell it now and
00:03:37open this, uncover this pot
00:03:41exposing his father with whom he has no relationship and who has another family, why
00:03:44does he do it? Why do you think he decided to do this? It's a question
00:03:48that, well, only he can know why now, but I think there's something
00:03:52to this, right? The need to perhaps have
00:03:55a certain sense of justice if things don't...
00:03:58At some point, he was not listened to by
00:04:01those people whom he
00:04:04needed to take care of him. I also say, Claudia,
00:04:07something somewhat paradoxical and
00:04:10interpretable regarding
00:04:13cease to be only what how for a long time he remained silent with the feeling
00:04:15that no one was listening to him, and today he
00:04:18publicizes it to many people at the same time with the
00:04:21power that a medium has through which he comes out to speak, because he doesn't put it on his social
00:04:25networks, he puts it in the medium that he knows will bounce everywhere.
00:04:28A way perhaps to seek social condemnation as social condemnation
00:04:39and and it repairs to talk,
00:04:43to tell when one is a victim of violence, when one is a child, one day
00:04:47to sit down and make it known, I don't know, I imagine him also telling it to his children
00:04:50in the future, talking about it openly with his cousins,
00:04:53it's healing, that's also something that
00:04:57he will have to value what
00:05:00effect this sharing this
00:05:03story had on him. Clearly, he has processed it and
00:05:06is much better and whole enough to
00:05:09make this statement. Not telling his
00:05:13story, he has to be whole to be able to do it, right? This is
00:05:16something, I wanted to ask you, Clau, here, can the wounds of
00:05:19a violent childhood
00:05:23accompany a person throughout their life?
00:05:26Yes, that doesn't mean that one
00:05:29cannot separate, process, and the important thing is
00:05:32here, I think the most important thing is not so much the
00:05:36violence, but that in that movement he loses his
00:05:39father. The painful thing is the loss of his father, who also
00:05:43is the only reference he has left, right? He depends on this
00:05:46person, not only to assist him with his basic
00:05:50needs, but also because he is the most important emotional reference he
00:05:53has left. In addition, he is the person he
00:05:57should approach to accompany him in the grieving process
00:06:00that implies the loss of his mom. So there are
00:06:04so many losses that he has to deal with. He himself
00:06:07says a slap, right? Physical pain
00:06:10passes, this...
00:06:17The father, shortly after, a couple of years later, but I mean, in the middle of everything that was this
00:06:21violence that Valentín recounted in the note,
00:06:24he started a
00:06:27new relationship and has a woman who is living with
00:06:30him, but according to the children,
00:06:34this woman didn't listen to them either. I mean, why would someone turn
00:06:37a deaf ear to something
00:06:39like that?
00:06:42Sometimes the denial, I mean, there are things that cannot be seen, they are very
00:06:45painful. Not everyone is in a
00:06:48position to do something
00:06:51with these things that are so painful within the family, what the
00:06:55grandparents did, they minimized it, right? How
00:06:58complicated. Look, Claudia, I want to share with you and the
00:07:02public what Gustavo Shankelevich said
00:07:05moments ago on a phone call on
00:07:09the program Intrusos de América. Go ahead.
00:07:13to Franco and Franco didn't speak and
00:07:17we passed in the car what I was telling you he sang
00:07:20and didn't speak and we ate and he didn't speak, the
00:07:24other week we went to eat again and he didn't speak and we went
00:07:27and we had lunch and he didn't speak neither there nor back,
00:07:31the third time I went he didn't speak and when I sat down to
00:07:35have lunch with him I said Fran I am an old person,
00:07:38something is happening here, you have to talk to me.
00:07:42I mean, it can't be that suddenly you stopped talking to me, you have
00:07:46to tell me what's happening, he says grandpa, what happens is that if you talk
00:07:50to dad and I tell you this he will kill me, clear, when dad
00:07:53found out that I asked you to spend a week at your
00:07:57house, he beat me up, oh no, he knocked me unconscious with
00:08:00blows, he knocked me unconscious with blows, he
00:08:03told you, yes, he knocked me unconscious with blows, yes, eh,
00:08:06and then well, no, no, I am telling this, I am very
00:08:10sensitive, so... us too,
00:08:13Gustavo, remembering this is very
00:08:17difficult for me, we understand you, it's very difficult for me to remember
00:08:20this,
00:08:23well, but no, because it also
00:08:27that came before, after the death,
00:08:30yes, it's reliving, yes, it's reliving,
00:08:36these kids suffered. When he told me that, I said, well, I'm going to
00:08:40help you, I'm going to help you, and
00:08:43time passed and
00:08:46well, I contacted family lawyers and such to
00:08:49see how it could be done. It wasn't easy, it wasn't easy, and
00:08:53and the truth is that everything was, well, it wasn't
00:08:57easy, it was difficult, but I said,
00:09:00I have to help them, and when Valentín started with the
00:09:03same thing, then I started taking them both out together
00:09:07so that they could both talk. I wanted to hear them both together, and they
00:09:10told me the same thing.
00:09:13So,
00:09:15well, Valentín told it, it's not a secret, Valentín told
00:09:19it in
00:09:22his note, that he wanted
00:09:26to live with his mom, that he didn't want to be here anymore, he was
00:09:29having a very hard time, he was in hell, and
00:09:33they told me, he says, when you come home, he's
00:09:36one person, and when you leave and the door closes,
00:09:39it seems.
00:09:51that your own dad knocks you out with a punch, and I say,
00:09:55and that grandfather too, because everything is now told in a way that seems like
00:09:59it happened quickly, but while those kids were in that ordeal for 2 years,
00:10:02it's not so easy that just because you tell something, besides,
00:10:05let's go back so many years ago, the justice system wasn't so inclined
00:10:09to listen to the children.
00:10:15And I can assure you that also losing your mom at such a
00:10:18young age, that in itself is very traumatic
00:10:22and not having, that is, no possibility
00:10:55this story and we want to tell it because it is a scoop and they obviously didn't tell it
00:10:59because Gustavo asked them not to and obviously sometimes you on the other side
00:11:02ask yourself why don't they stop telling other things well
00:11:06the family also has respect in the media and if they
00:11:10ask you not to tell it no one tells it that's the reality that's why he gives the
00:11:14phone call to Lucicha now talks to them I see
00:11:17Meli moved I want to ask you Meli because you
00:11:21went through a situation. I mean, what do you think
00:11:25about, about look, this woman who was
00:11:29there, and who turned a deaf ear to everything, she was
00:11:32a witness to the things that were happening in that house, at least an accomplice, but
00:11:36I mean, where is she, I mean, clarifying
00:11:40that you are making a
00:11:42parallelism, but saving the differences, well, I
00:11:46happened to be a
00:11:49stepmother, which is a horrible word, a mother to the
00:11:53children of...
00:12:03there was no violence, but this situation continues of feeling that you, as a final mother, even if they are not your children, understand that the worst thing that could happen to them has just happened, which is losing their mother in a, well, an unthinkable situation, a woman who enters healthy
00:12:05to have a study, an
00:12:09que les podía pasar que perder su mamá en un este
00:12:12dead. Well, you have a
00:12:16direct responsibility, the responsibility is unavoidable. I don't understand how unhealthy
00:12:19the relationship has to be for you to go out with a guy
00:12:23who does that to kids, it's
00:12:55a red flag of another level. Your kids don't
00:12:59stand by you and he beats them up, and the kids are saying he abuses them, I don't know what
00:13:03he expects. What I saw is that they started dating, this
00:13:07Miren, her name is Miren, she starts dating Darío
00:13:102 years after Romina dies, so it coincides with
00:13:13that moment when this kid starts
00:13:17talking about what he was seeing,
00:13:20she didn't tell her, he told his grandfather, but she could also have had her as an ally, no, that
00:13:23María, Valentín says that she saw all this and turned
00:13:27a deaf ear, so she decided not to intervene,
00:13:30Claudia, we want to thank you once again for having had
00:13:34the courtesy to attend to us, yes, thank you to you, we
00:13:38hope to see you on the floor soon, in a little while we will come back to this topic, but
00:13:42now a breaking news, you are unbeatable, you are on
00:13:45Crónica. breaking
00:13:49news, long lines for a
00:13:53job, 10 blocks of
00:13:57queue, there are people camping since
00:14:00yesterday, and on the mobile we
00:14:03have the
00:14:07fox, Ema, welcome unbeatable,
00:14:09sorry, how
00:14:16are you, thank you very much,
00:14:18Rulo, very well, luckily, listen, there were at
00:14:22their most critical moment 12
00:14:25blocks of queue for 30 job positions for this
00:14:28bazaar that will open on the 24th of this month,
00:14:32in 12 days it opens and they already want to know how many resumes
00:14:35they left since 10 in the morning
00:14:39to surprise, and from what you are telling me it seems like more than 1, clear,
00:14:431,270, no, impressive,
00:14:47impressive, 1,270, it doesn't
00:14:50end there, Rulo,
00:14:53there are still 10 blocks of queue to leave
00:14:55the resume here
00:14:58in person, so another equal amount, at least, Loren, now if
00:15:011200 is the number of resumes and 30 are the
00:15:05job positions, it's a 3% chance of
00:15:08getting a job, it's impressive, more or less, 3% is very low, the faith
00:15:11you have to have to stand in that line for hours and hours and the
00:15:15need to get a job, no, the real line of faith, exactly.
00:15:19Yes, yes, because I mean, you have to feel very desperate, because
00:15:23also, surely we have testimonies later, but in general, we usually have
00:15:26testimonies where people say, I don't know, whatever they pay me
00:15:30when they are asked about salary expectations. Clear,
00:15:33sorry, can we talk to some people in the line? Let's
00:15:37talk to the people, of course, here they need
00:15:40stockers, cashiers, customer service and
00:15:44administrators, among other things, let's see over here, how are you,
00:15:47all good, no, thank you, at 8, at
00:15:508, 8:30, very good, and when you saw all the people there, what
00:15:54did you think, no, we'll have to wait for a while,
00:15:57well, how much do you need to earn
00:16:00and the minimum? For part
00:16:03time, 580 580 thousand, yes, very good,
00:16:06thanks, let's see here, hello, how are you, all good,
00:16:09well, what kind of work would you like to do here? As a stocker,
00:16:13stocker, yes, yes, and how long have you been looking for work? For three, four
00:16:17months, you're already 22 years old, 22, yes, how much
00:16:20do you need to earn as a minimum? And calculate
00:16:24700, 600 to contribute, help my family, do you live with
00:16:28them? Yes, with my dad, and they need a hand, very good, let's see here,
00:16:31what's your name? Julieta. Juli, how old are you?
00:16:3523. 23. And how long have you been looking for a job? For
00:16:39about three months, more or less. Yes. And how much
00:16:43do you need to earn as a minimum? And the minimum wage, I think
00:16:46that's fine. How much is it? I don't remember now,
00:16:49how much was it? Like 800, I think it was. Well, yes, I think I'm
00:16:52fine with that. Good, thanks. I have a question,
00:16:56how long have you been looking for a job? And I've been looking for a job for about 5 months.
00:16:59And what was the last thing? Uh, carpentry.
00:17:03Look at the line, luckily for all these people who are here, the
00:17:06proposal is legal, the
00:17:37job is legal, especially considering something that is a piece of data we learned this weekend,
00:17:41there are 32,290 companies
00:17:44that closed during Javier Miley's administration, 15,475 of
00:17:48which closed this year, in 2026, meaning half
00:17:50closed this year,
00:17:56eh, well, we continue here with the guy, hello, how
00:17:59are you? Lucio, you came very elegantly, thank you very much, little hat and
00:18:02everything, how old are you,
00:18:05Lucio, as of today, 20 years old, today is your birthday, today is my
00:18:08birthday, congratulations, well, how much do you need
00:18:11to earn as a minimum,
00:18:14the truth is I think at least as such it could be between
00:18:18800 and 1,200 I could say to give a
00:18:20rough estimate, you know what I mean, less than a million is already complicated, and
00:18:24how long have you been looking for work, we've all been here
00:18:27for a year, yes, since
00:18:31December, and what could you work as, what do you see yourself doing
00:18:34best? Uh, in what I studied, mostly quality control,
00:18:38laboratories in companies in
00:18:42general, uh, what can I say, production and
00:18:45so on, and then if not,
00:18:48bazaars and things like that, looking for the first thing I can find, thanks. Hello, what's your
00:18:52name? Good, Lola, how old are you, Lola? Uh, 20 years old, just like
00:18:55him. How much would you need to earn as a minimum?
00:18:58And to help at home, and in total, a million, to be able to
00:19:02survive, I mean, I'm with my parents, who are old, and they
00:19:06also need help, it's help among everyone, of course,
00:19:09obviously. And what happens if they call you on the phone and tell you, Lola, you got the job, but we
00:19:13have to pay you 700,000?
00:19:17It's to work, yes, and yes, even if it sounds
00:19:20little, it's difficult to get a job, yes, a lot, and
00:19:24we send applications to Merlo, to... anywhere,
00:19:27we throw resumes everywhere in the province, yes, basically
00:19:30I think all of Buenos Aires has my resume.
00:19:34How much do you need to earn? And I think at least
00:19:38800, because also with family, yes, thank
00:19:41God my family supports me, but well, there are expenses that
00:19:45I can't afford, so we're in trouble, of course. Why should
00:19:48the owner of this bazaar hire you? Uh,
00:19:51because I'm a person who really likes to
00:19:55learn, so I think I can handle myself more or less in any field, so even
00:19:58if I don't have much experience because I graduated in December, I have all the
00:20:01willingness to improve. Thanks,
00:20:04eh. Well, let's continue with these kids here.
00:20:08How old are you, 18, like many others? No, I'm 22. 22, yes.
00:20:11Well, what was your last job? And it was
00:20:15a company
00:20:19eh e-commerce, so and how long have you been unemployed? About a month
00:20:23more or less, so I'm there with family and how much did you need?
00:20:26From 800 to 1 million, I earned 1,200, that was my
00:20:29maximum, well, there you go, well, so far the
00:20:33range is that, they need between 800 thousand and a million,
00:20:37let's see here, what's your name? I'm not going to talk,
00:20:41well, this way we're going to see, hello, how are you, all good, hello, all
00:20:45good, well, what's your name, Juliana, Juliana,
00:20:48how much do you need to earn with this job?
00:20:51Uh, the truth is I don't know how much
00:20:55the basic price is, but but well, it's legal, which is
00:20:59quite a lot, right? Yes, obviously, especially since I'm a mother of four children and I take
00:21:02care of them literally alone, uh, with
00:21:05I wouldn't know how to tell you, but whatever it is helps me, already
00:21:09with a legal job, a mother and four children, exactly, I take care of them
00:21:13alone, literally, I take care of them alone, how much do you need
00:21:16to earn? From a million upwards, so everything
00:21:20plus rent or is the house yours? Luckily I own my house,
00:21:23but well, you know that a million is nothing, it's
00:21:25nothing with four children, it's nothing, especially since I take care of them
00:21:29literally alone, how do you do it?
00:21:33Magic, I do magic, are you unemployed now?
00:21:37Uh, I'm working as a cleaner, I don't earn
00:21:40much, but
00:21:43well, that plus what I get for my children, which is a help, I don't live
00:21:46off that, would you keep this job
00:21:50too? If I can, yes, if not,
00:21:54I mean, if this job where I earn more, I would leave the other one,
00:21:57but the truth is I have to feed four children who depend on me
00:22:01literally, so your current situation requires you to have two
00:22:04jobs, uh, yes, exactly, in fact I need
00:22:08two jobs to be able to cover the expenses of my children, who are all
00:22:11minors. Exactly, thank you, hello, what's your
00:22:15name, hello, how are you, Flor, what time did you arrive, Flor? I arrived at 8 in
00:22:19the morning and tell me about the panorama, how many blocks of line at that
00:22:22moment? Uh,
00:22:26blocks, yes, you saw so many people and you said I have to stay
00:22:30anyway, uh, yes, yes, totally, how much do you need
00:22:32to earn? A million and up too.
00:22:36Thanks, no, well, a
00:22:39million is what this girl needs to make ends meet with this job.
00:22:42But look, the particularity, unlike other days, is
00:22:46that in this line of hope there are a lot of
00:22:52older people, surely as the afternoon goes on, making the
00:22:55notes, we will also find older people, but what you see here
00:22:59is a majority of young people as in this case, how old are you, thanks,
00:23:0226, how old, 26, 26, and how long have you been looking for
00:23:06work, not for a day, oh, a day, you've been
00:23:10unemployed for a day, of course, you've been unemployed for a very short time, no, but I don't want to. What
00:23:13did you work in, thanks, very kind, well, we continue
00:23:17here, hello girls, how are you, how long
00:23:20have you been here, uh, about 5 hours
00:23:23more or less, well, and how long have you been looking for work?
00:23:26About a year more or less, what was the
00:23:30last thing? Uh, as an operator
00:23:33for conditioning,
00:23:36how much do you need to earn today to make ends meet? And I don't know, around a million,
00:23:40I'm alone, so that's fine, do you pay
00:23:43rent? No, I live with my mom, with your
00:23:47mom, sorry, well, let's see, sorry, hold
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00:25:586014, from Tuesday to Saturday, come
00:26:02and enjoy live bands,
00:26:06sueño, El Salvador 6014, de martes a sábados, vení
00:26:09DJs, terrace, tapas,
00:26:13pizzas, beers and drinks, blue, rock electronic, a
00:26:16warm and comfortable atmosphere, birthday benefits and promos at the asteroffice,
00:26:20find us on Instagram as el quinto sueño.
00:26:24Do you want maximum efficiency to eliminate lice and nits?
00:26:28Zona Libre presents Zona Libre Instant Kit, the two most successful products on
00:26:32the market, now together. Zona Libre kit eliminates, repels, prevents
00:26:36re-infestation of lice and nits. You already know them, the red one eliminates
00:26:39them in a single application and since it acts physically and not chemically,
00:26:43it is 100% safe and you can
00:26:46the blue one, lice don't even come near. A single daily application
00:26:50prevents contagion and also doesn't damage hair.
00:26:54As always, find Zona Libre in all pharmacies in
00:26:58Uruguay.
00:27:08Do you feel lethargy or tiredness, do you lack energy and forget things?
00:27:12Argentina has arrived, Artrostop Energy
00:27:15cold, a powerful energizing concentrate of natural
00:27:19origin that comes in individual sachets and helps you
00:27:22feel like before. Arthostop Energy is not a medicine. It is prepared in
00:27:26cold water like a juice, it contains vitamins, calcium, minerals and
00:27:30natural extracts of ginseng
00:27:33Xinco and Biloba and
00:27:35Guarana. Take it daily with your meals and you will see how
00:27:39young you will feel. Remember, to recover your energy, Artrostop
00:27:42Energy cold and to calm your pain, Artrostop hot, now
00:27:46also in boxes of four sachets for sale in pharmacies or in the online
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00:27:58the new and powerful stop roll-on to massage directly with
00:28:02its exclusive applicator designed with a tilting plastic sphere that when
00:28:06rolled over the affected area, makes the potent analgesic
00:28:08anti-inflammatory penetrate
00:28:12deeply, which calms your pains quickly.
00:28:16And once again, we present the Gravity Bens, this
00:28:20bicycle that is the faithful companion for going to work,
00:28:23for going for a ride, for using it for work, it has
00:28:25suspension,
00:28:28disc brakes, Shimano gears, double-walled rims, it's painted with fire, I can leave it in the sun
00:28:32or in the rain and it doesn't
00:28:35give mom, Mother's Day is coming soon. You can give a
00:28:39Gravity because they have models for kids, for boys, for girls of all
00:28:43types, gravity.bicycles
00:28:45on Instagram, like the latest publication and leave a comment
00:28:49and you'll be participating in the Gravity raffle that we're going to hold in
00:28:52October like every
00:29:02When we return from the break,
00:29:06the father abuses his son from the age of 3
00:29:10years, a revealing testimony from a
00:29:13desperate mother, an abusive father and a
00:29:16child who is caught in the clutches
00:29:19of the worst that can happen to a child. We'll be
00:29:23right back with all the information with Cristian,
00:29:25unbeatable.
00:29:54that makes us wide awake,
00:29:57some may seem distant, unattainable,
00:30:01elusive. Others incoherent,
00:30:04unrealizable, utopian,
00:30:07but when we manage to visualize them, interpret them,
00:30:11make them come true, dreams
00:30:15we once dreamed of. At
00:30:18IPF, we are living the most challenging moment of our
00:30:21history, what we are achieving seems like a
00:30:24dream, and we could settle for
00:30:27that, but don't
00:30:30even dream of it.
00:30:33IPF Argentine energy