Argentina: Crónica

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00:00:00No, because that also, let's see, we have to be
00:00:03self-critical because ever since I can remember, teachers
00:00:06have been selling Avon, selling Avon,
00:00:08costume jewelry always for years. What happens
00:00:12with that? I mean, it's not new that teachers
00:00:15have... but come on, but you're facing a teacher, Fiora.
00:00:19Ask her if it's new. Ask her,
00:00:23in any case.
00:00:25Retired, it happened. I mean, and it happens.
00:00:28Let's ask. Antonila, we ask you.
00:00:31Let's see.
00:00:35Yes, what do they want to know about the deterioration of teacher salaries? It's not from this government, it's been happening for
00:00:39years. Now, obviously, we are getting worse, we are not improving
00:00:42educational conditions. The budget that this government votes, which also
00:00:46doesn't comply, because it doesn't comply with the university
00:00:48who had any involvement in financing law, it doesn't comply with the disability law, with the emergency in
00:00:51disability and a thousand etceteras. This means there is a concrete responsibility of the
00:00:55government that does not comply with the salary demands from all
00:00:58sectors. Now we are here with... the residents. Ask a resident how much
00:01:02they earn. Of course, in hospitals, there's a situation, and health and
00:01:06education are sustained by women. Care tasks
00:01:10doubts says that when we decide with are sustained by women, inside homes and outside too. Can I ask you a question?
00:01:13Aren't you, the teachers, somewhat responsible for
00:01:16working with the kids at school to
00:01:19avoid all the machismo that is
00:01:23ingrained in society?
00:01:26Yes, of course, and as I told you before, comprehensive sexual education has been...
00:01:52but I don't think she had an iPhone, no, but the owner of
00:01:56kilometers, 2.5 from the distance, maybe, well, maybe, but what I'm saying is, apparently
00:02:22protection and comfort, one less stress at
00:02:30mothers, many parents also question ESI because they think,
00:02:33I don't know what idea got into their heads, that in reality what ESI does is
00:02:37prevent abuse, prevent
00:02:41found. At deficiencies, inequalities, violence in schools. And
00:02:43well, and yet among Catholic schools, in my
00:02:46false testimony, for obstructing experience, I'm talking about my experience, this year we did
00:02:50a workshop with families, and families were desperately asking, that they
00:02:54don't have answers for certain things that adolescents raise, they
00:02:57received us, the teachers. What's more,
00:03:01what's more, Antonela, when we asked this year, I did a note with
00:03:04several high school students, the kids themselves
00:03:07were screaming for mental health spaces. We are
00:03:11gambling all day long with bets, the kids themselves
00:03:15said, "You adults have to contain us, we are without a
00:03:18network." The school, and the school activates
00:03:21now with what we're seeing of the mental health protocols when you have kids who tell you they
00:03:24want to commit suicide or who tell you serious issues of anxiety,
00:03:27depression. We make the alerts. The schools, and then they don't get an
00:03:31appointment for 6 months because public health is empty. So everything
00:03:35always falls on teachers. Teachers do what we can
00:03:38even with the little we have, with a lack of
00:03:41budget, and yet we don't abandon the classroom, we are there, we listen, all the time we are
00:03:45listening to the kids. Many times it is the only place where they are listened to.
00:03:49So it seems to me that at this moment what needs to be highlighted is that
00:03:53it cannot continue like this, that what happened to Nancy, unfortunately, let's
00:03:56say the death, yes, but the working conditions are not an exceptionality.
00:04:00Exactly.
00:04:00Exactly.
00:04:08Colleague, I mean, it seems to me that the strange thing is that, because if the conditions are those
00:04:11and Nancy reported and for me it's not minor that she reported, because if she reported it means
00:04:15that something smelled bad, so the government
00:04:19didn't respond to that. I mean, for me, at
00:04:23least, it makes my blood boil, what do you want me to say? We'll be back
00:04:26at the CTERA march. We have breaking news.
00:04:34Breaking news.
00:04:38It's hot this midday, all Vald's fault, national
00:04:42teacher strike and march for
00:04:43Nancy.
00:04:46They found her in a pasture in the area of the
00:04:49place. The place had not been
00:04:52searched.
00:04:58There's the map, the... location of this marsh
00:05:01where Nancy was found. They
00:05:05talked about 15 km, 2.5. The truth is that it is a
00:05:08difficult area, a difficult area to
00:05:12access on foot. You can't, because we saw it with, if you have Martin
00:05:15there, if it's not too much trouble, don't take it
00:05:18badly, you're a man, I'm not
00:05:20mistreating you. Can you put
00:05:24the image, the image of the horse that goes with the water
00:05:28practically up to there, there it is, look,
00:05:31there is some passage, this is little, there is some passage where
00:05:35the horse has water directly almost up to its spine,
00:05:38where the rider is sitting. In those conditions was the...
00:06:18if they know the place, if they have information regarding whether it could have
00:06:22been a single person who took the body there, or if it had
00:06:25to have been more than one. No, one person is enough because, as we were saying just now,
00:06:29the horse, you cross the body that we always see in movies,
00:06:32pack animals carrying, for example, the crossing
00:06:36of two donkeys, of course. I want to go back to some information that
00:06:39Pampa was just saying in the first instance, well.
00:06:42We were giving the scoop yesterday, the sad news, not about the
00:06:46discovery of Nancy's remains, who had been missing for more than 15
00:06:49days. In a first instance, it had emerged that the discovery site
00:06:53was 15 km from the school, however, this
00:06:56was later clarified. Yesterday I was listening
00:07:00to the commissioner, the head of the police of Corrientes,
00:07:03Leguizamón, it was much closer, 2 and a half
00:07:09the school, very close too...
00:07:12and a half approximately from where the dome of the Curupí ranch is
00:07:16located, that is, yes, much closer than we
00:07:19thought, that is, Belu, it is probable that,
00:07:23let's see, it was someone who was very close to the situation,
00:07:26it has to be, is one of the arrested people, not that they were all together,
00:07:30that is not yet confirmed, and it was right there
00:07:33that they discarded her, and it was also without the foresight of, for
00:07:37example, taking the cell phone out of the backpack, it was improvised, it was improvised, that's what I wanted to
00:07:41say, totally. Isado, I understand that the place where the body
00:07:44was found was and is the discarding place, not
00:07:48the place where the crime was committed, not the primary crime scene,
00:07:52that information we still don't have from where they killed her and
00:07:55ended up taking Nancy's life, also a few
00:07:58meters from where the remains
00:08:00were found.
00:08:03Exactly, all those, but it is presumed to be between the 7th and the 9th, which are the
00:08:07days when communication with Nancy was cut off.
00:08:10There, there will surely be a key piece of data because
00:08:14in case it can be known for sure, something that I don't know what window
00:08:17they will have of death data, Rosale Leguizamón
00:08:21told justice first that the last time he saw her was Friday
00:08:24the 9th, and then he corrected it to the day before, Thursday
00:08:27the 8th. If the death data can be known,
00:08:30it will also be known if Rosale Leguizamón
00:08:33lied about that. The death data gives
00:08:37you a window of how long it can be
00:08:41if there is a preservation.
00:09:12She goes to Sauce, the town of Sauce, to this traditional
00:09:16festival where she was going to be awarded. However, in a statement she
00:09:20gave to the press previously during the days of Nancy's search, she had contradictions.
00:09:24She said things that were different from what she later said in
00:09:27court, so this logically caught the attention of the
00:09:30prosecutor, and that's why we are now talking about an indicted person. But there is a message that
00:09:34she sends to the owner of the ranch saying that she was leaving because
00:09:38she was unwell, she felt sick, she was going to seek medical attention. So
00:09:42that... that message was provided to justice and is another
00:09:45element that led to her being arrested. She also had
00:09:49contradictions and inconsistencies with respect to the testimony of her
00:09:53husband, Nahuel Rojas, also another of the arrested and
00:09:56indicted. I wanted to add that, well, regarding the discovery,
00:10:00not only were the remains found, but also the
00:10:03bag that was a few meters away, a few
00:10:06meters away, a pair of boots, yes, with the cell phone, which
00:10:10was also a mystery. Well, in the first instance, I think the most
00:10:14relevant piece of information is that she had Nancy's cell phone, which was one
00:10:17of the devices that was being highly
00:10:20sought after.
00:10:26The message from the people is coming now. Breaking
00:10:28news.
00:10:32Grandpa Ramón is watching,
00:10:34Ramón, Ramón has many things to say.
00:10:38Exclusive,
00:10:44the revealing message from one of the
00:10:46accused:
00:10:50"What do we do with the body?" I said there
00:10:53were complicated messages.
00:11:00That would have been found, we know whose phone it was, from the accused,
00:11:03from the accused, still, still, let's see, 28 phones
00:11:07in total, 28, 28, 30, yes, because phones were taken from everyone
00:11:13the area, I think even from the people at the ranch,
00:11:17and they are analyzing and working on that, good job, and there are
00:11:21many, yes, this contradicts, I insist, those who...
00:11:25say that the power is behind it, I'm not, no, no,
00:11:28let's see, I'm not here to defend anyone, but I say, if you
00:11:32want to make a body disappear with
00:11:35power, this is not the way, be careful that the body disappears, this
00:11:39is very clear, Papa, I agree with that, if not, ask about the Loan case,
00:11:43I don't know, yes,
00:11:46totally, what do you think, but I understand that on the other hand, the prosecutor's office worked
00:11:50well, say the people who are close to the investigation, for
00:11:54example, they have.
00:11:57unless some late-nighter, well, everyone's phones, everyone's
00:12:00DNA already taken for when a comparison needs to be made, I wanted to ask you this,
00:12:04how long does it take to analyze all the phones, for example, Nancy's
00:12:07phone that they found? It depends, it depends on the equipment,
00:12:11the brand, no, no, it depends on the equipment because if it's an iPhone it costs much more,
00:12:20the information I have, you can confirm it, is that Nancy's
00:12:24phone was on and working, that is, they could open it directly, no,
00:12:28not on, it must have been off because after so many days the battery ran out eventually, so
00:12:32you have to charge it, you have to download all the elements, and then analyze
00:12:36them, and then you have to cross-reference all the phones
00:12:39to see who communicates with whom, at what time, where
00:12:43the antenna that the phone was on is located, let's start by saying that here
00:12:46we have a serious signal problem, so that's going to make
00:12:49things complicated, but it's very crude, it's very crude, no, because it's
00:12:52indeed a... of a body very
00:12:56close to the crime scene, there were five or six people, no
00:12:59more in that place, and leaving the victim's
00:13:02phone elsewhere.
00:13:05The cuts she has on her hands and legs, they tried to dismember her, apparently Belu has
00:13:09that information, it's the information that arises based on the
00:13:13lacerations and cuts. We have to
00:13:16see what severity the cuts have to
00:13:19reach the conclusion that they tried to dismember her, because the
00:13:22reality is that she has a super cut.
00:13:32At the joints, those who end up dismembering a
00:13:35body, first they said they were defense cuts, of course, you remember,
00:13:39well, but there's another issue, the scene
00:13:43is preserved
00:13:46field, what else will they be able to seize? It will be very
00:13:50complicated, in fact they are no longer in the field, yesterday they did everything, they took the
00:13:54body in the helicopter, they deposited it in the forensic medical
00:13:57institute of the capital of Corrientes and that's it,
00:14:01there's nothing left there, nothing.
00:14:04How was the transfer to there, the body on horseback, well, but
00:14:08on horseback, as I said,
00:14:11like a potato sack that you used to play with
00:14:15when you were a kid, but on the back of the horse,
00:14:18probably, no, and I say, having now there are two sources of
00:14:21information.
00:14:25Very important information, Nancy's phone,
00:14:27totally, and the body, everyone's phones,
00:14:30yes, well, but especially the victim's, who called her, who told her
00:14:34to go here. The role, the role of Joaquin surprises
00:14:36me, the guy who knows and marks where the body is, has
00:14:40nothing to do with it, it's a question, it may have nothing to do with it, what I asked you
00:14:44today, is he detained, he is not
00:14:46detained, I think, but you know he gave precise information, who told you,
00:14:50how did you know, why did you hide it, sorry, for so
00:14:53long. Yes, yes, but two
00:14:57things can happen, he doesn't have enough evidence to arrest him, or
00:15:01since he provided information, he effectively knows he won't
00:15:04flee because he hasn't fled yet, and that strategy served the prosecutor's
00:15:07office, they still let him free so he can give them more
00:15:11information, and I agree with you, the prosecutor's office acted
00:15:14very, the prosecutor is very, very cunning, he's really very clever,
00:15:18and what he did was let him run, as they say in the
00:15:21countryside, let him be to fatten him up, so
00:15:25he broke when he saw that his whole family had been arrested and he was told "you're
00:15:28next," this for me was the strategy of the
00:15:32prosecutor's office, although we'll have to see, no, because it's also logical that if he had all that
00:15:35information, he's not...
00:15:37you're obligated unless it's your sister there, for your sister you're not
00:15:41obligated, for the others, yes, for the others, yes, for your
00:15:44sister, no, but if you know Arza, yes, and he would be
00:15:48the material author, against him he's not obligated, he has
00:15:52an impediment to declare to denounce him, so
00:15:55why, what I'm asking is why did it take him 20 days to give the
00:15:59information about where she was if he had it. He should be
00:16:03in jail, you know. We'll have to see when the prosecutor called him too, he called
00:16:06him three times, three times. Yesterday, when he
00:16:09broke down, they went to the place and the information arrived. You know what's
00:16:13good? We will have that information because
00:16:17you who always have good contacts will have that information and we will be able to
00:16:20understand what the strategy was. Surely in the next few days we'll go to the
00:16:24province now. You go, Belu, you want to add something? Mauro is back
00:16:28from there. Mauro, how does this day continue? What else is going to happen? Well,
00:16:326 PM is the time of the hearing where
00:16:35through video
00:16:38conference, the family will receive the autopsy
00:16:41results, which the forensic medical institute will
00:16:45provide, and well, there we will have much more
00:16:48information regarding what they found in the
00:16:52body. Yes, there's talk of cuts on the hand, there's
00:16:55talk of an attempt to dismember, but all that
00:16:59will be officially announced in some way from
00:17:026 PM onwards. Another piece of information I was hearing is that they were talking about Joaquin
00:17:06Lee Zamon. And that he is still free.
00:17:10Gustavo Brién also gave us to understand that
00:17:14he would also go for Bordón, who until now is
00:17:17provisionally considered a false
00:17:21witness, but something that the plaintiff does not share and that we need to
00:17:24pay attention to see if the classification of Bordón's crime also doesn't
00:17:28change, is that Mauro, you're right, and he's
00:17:32right in that he was the first to say that she had been
00:17:35abused and killed. First, that information, then he diverted
00:17:39the investigation to a place where
00:17:42the body was not, but he knew
00:17:46that she had been killed, of course, in fact what he said happened, of course, totally
00:17:50of course, of course, because I mean, Bordón first said that they killed her in a group, then he said no,
00:17:54when did he lie?
00:17:57There's a before and after for a lawyer too, eh, exactly, I was going to tell you
00:18:01that, and in the middle there are the complaints about illegal
00:18:03prizes.
00:18:07No, and for disability. That he suffered from, no, apparently it is even visible, apparently it is even
00:18:11visible, the disability that this person has. But well, I mean,
00:18:14his first version is ultimately the one that is currently confirmed, of course, what
00:18:18exactly, of course. The prosecutor, what happens is, he charges him with
00:18:23the investigation when he indicates a supposed place
00:18:27where the remains or the body of
00:18:30Nancy were. The prosecutor's office, the prosecutor goes and she was not
00:18:33there, that's why he ends up charging him with false testimony, but let's see. Without
00:18:37a doubt, what is inferred is that Ezequiel Bordón knew something, had some kind of
00:18:41information. Obviously, his participation in the
00:18:44crime of Nancy is not clear yet. Let's go with messages, Carito, what do the
00:18:48people say? Well, we have messages here, for example, from a rural teacher who tells us: "Well, the truth is that the
00:18:52socio-economic conditions sometimes incite us
00:18:55to access jobs and workplaces from
00:18:58which many times we have no other option." What we were talking about earlier, no,
00:19:02they also demand that students study in
00:19:05deplorable conditions. And I say this as a rural
00:19:09teacher.
00:19:11There you go, how good, a rural teacher, where is she from? She tells you, Caro, she told you she doesn't tell us where she's from,
00:19:15where is she from? Well, we send her a hug, tell us if you want, because
00:19:19it's also good to be able to talk to a rural teacher who tells us the reality that teachers
00:19:22live, exactly, and she tells us this, that the conditions, exactly, that the
00:19:26socio-economic conditions sometimes mean they have to access those types of jobs, that even if they
00:19:30don't want to and know that it's wrong or that the conditions are not good, unfortunately
00:19:33, of course, if she returned to that place and stayed in a place that even gave her
00:20:07business in the framework of the RIGI, the
00:20:11special incentive regime for large investments, Karina Miley
00:20:14was in this case with small and medium-sized enterprises of our
00:20:18country so that they can join large investment
00:20:21projects. Here everyone has to win, that's what the
00:20:25General Secretary of the Presidency said on behalf of the
00:20:28national government. I mean, in this case, this
00:20:32business round included 2500 SMEs and 43 large
00:20:35companies. How
00:20:37nice.
00:20:41Activity this morning of the national government, we take
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