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00:00:00crossing Ribadavia and what the movement is like here in Liniers, why? Because
00:00:03we are at the time to return home, as it is called
00:00:08about several objectives with socially, rush hour where there are many buses, there are many
00:00:10people even who wait according to the lines and routes
00:00:14and sometimes the annoyance and now when they find out that there might
00:00:19my colleagues, that is, the corruption is from be a strike in the
00:00:20Olmos prison, why? Because from inside coming hours, eh, that discomfort will increase even
00:00:23more because they already recognize that they don't travel in a certain way, look,
00:00:27here is one of the lines 185
00:00:30it's hard to catch it on time and form because sometimes it takes a long time to
00:00:33arrive at the stop and to leave at the time that the users
00:00:37want, yes, let's see, we're getting closer, we're going, people are running, we're
00:00:41asking the guys who are in the line, excuse me for bothering
00:00:44you, good afternoon, do you know that there could be a bus strike in the
00:00:48coming hours or days? Eh, no, I wasn't aware, you're not
00:00:51aware, no, because the drivers are demanding a salary increase, how does it
00:00:54affect you and what do you think about a strike? Personally,
00:00:58it doesn't affect me because I work from home,
00:01:01but I think it's perfect, it seems perfect,
00:01:05and if they have to demand because something is fair, that's
00:01:09fine, there it goes, the last thing I ask you is how do you
00:01:11travel?
00:01:14It depends on where, sometimes it's complicated, by
00:01:17bus relatively better, have a good trip
00:01:21home, thank you very much, there it goes, good, good, good, good, look at the
00:01:24amount of people who are walking, good
00:01:27man, quickly.
00:01:40I wouldn't have a way to travel no, impossible, what do you think that the
00:01:43drivers strike for a salary increase for a salary
00:01:47demand? And no, I don't think it's right, you don't think
00:01:51it's right, how do you travel currently on the
00:01:55bus? And so far
00:01:56clear that the leaders of the there we are, you wait
00:02:00quite a bit and not so much,
00:02:03no, well, let's re-launch the topic, gentlemen, let's
00:02:08it, when you have cell phones in re-launch the topic while people are returning home, there is a
00:02:10statement that was issued today by the drivers, especially of line
00:02:14there is corruption in the police, in 60, in which they announce that there will be
00:02:17strong measures, it must also be said that in December, mid-December, there
00:02:21is an election for UTA,
00:02:22tell you no, in prison we are going to evidently, everything that is done is to
00:02:26calls from Monday to Saturday, from 9 try to seek positioning regarding what happens with the salary, the salary is very, very delayed.
00:02:30Let's say a driver today is very, very poor, guys, we have to
00:02:34understand each other, there you have people in the line who will not be affected tomorrow or who
00:02:38will be affected in the coming hours and they tell you that the guys are right, we already
00:02:42realized that the debt problem also has to do with
00:02:45the salary, we already realized that not making it to the end of the month also has to do with
00:02:49the salary, it's new, it's not new, it's worse and worse, worse and
00:02:54four judges a month ago, remember, transport, and also what worse, yes, we are, hello, can you hear me? How are you? Yes,
00:02:56it sounds good, well, good evening, thank you for inviting me, as always, to
00:03:00share this space, but beyond what they are saying, I am listening to him
00:03:04equate, for example, salaries with
00:03:07the dollar, the dollar no, but the dollar has, wait, it measures reality, the dollar has
00:03:11had an inflation that you are not taking into account, it has depreciated in recent
00:03:14years, so it's not a
00:03:16fallacy either,
00:03:21we are on strike, guys, we are on strike, then I'll show you what the economy minister
00:03:25eats, I'll show you what the economy minister eats with papers because I think that's
00:03:28the key to what he says. Everything the
00:03:30prison. Well, but we're with government did, I'll show you what he owes Arturseneger, one of the
00:03:34main government officials, I'll show you everything, I'll show you everything, how
00:03:38the government works and what they do with your money, because they
00:03:41tell you now no, because your salary has to be enough, well, it's not
00:03:45enough for a reason and today we're going to show you, we'll be back with you, Resano,
00:03:49let's go back to the street,
00:03:52we continue, we are walking, we are moving here in the line of
00:03:56lines 136, 153.
00:04:00write it down, not my friend from which prison, if that helps and 163 that go to the west zone,
00:04:03eh, let's see, we're going to ask the people, I have a quick question,
00:04:07okay, thanks, we continue, can I ask you a quick
00:04:10question, do you know that there could be a bus strike in the coming hours or days
00:04:14because the drivers are demanding a salary increase? No, honestly, I didn't know anything,
00:04:18but it seems fair, yes, yes, totally, they are underpaid,
00:04:21they work under a lot of pressure, but it's more than a fair
00:04:24demand, does it affect you? And yes, eh, but I see, I see the
00:04:28way, I agree.
00:05:03Crónica's exclusive, a little while ago we told
00:05:05you,
00:05:10strike by bus drivers. in
00:05:12increase
00:05:16tomorrow bus strike,
00:05:19if you're going to work tomorrow, if you're going to work tomorrow, you have to take
00:05:22this into account with caution, there's the bus
00:05:25queue, the guys, these are the queues seen in the morning
00:05:29during peak hours, obviously, but well, inform
00:05:32your relative or be informed that tomorrow you may
00:05:35have problems with the bus, Mónica, this was expected, wasn't it?
00:05:39Yes, I say the other thing we have to pay attention to.
00:06:02what is happening, how they are living, it is an unhealthy job, as she just said, what a bus driver or a train
00:06:05engineer experiences, very few professions are experiencing it, do you think the police did not
00:06:08want to do this too, do you think that
00:06:12yes. We have said it here, how many times have I said it, how many times have I said it, what happens is that
00:06:16the police cannot do anything, they are prohibited from unionizing, but beyond that,
00:06:19let's talk about what happens with drivers and with transporters in general, people
00:06:23who have a job that demands a lot
00:06:26physically because it breaks them, it destroys them,
00:06:29psychologically what they experience, because many
00:06:32accidents happen, they don't recover well, many people end up on medication due to these situations
00:06:36they have to live, in fact I have known people who have been fired after having a traffic
00:06:40accident, the company dismisses them.
00:06:43On top of that, they are left without a job, without their
00:06:46license, they cannot do any other activity related to
00:06:50transportation, so you have to see the global context of what bus
00:06:53drivers experience, it has happened with the forces, this demand has happened with the
00:06:57security forces, with doctors also now it happens with drivers asking for a
00:07:01salary that seems exorbitant but it really isn't, we are a
00:07:04very impoverished country, I think you also find it exorbitant, that's why no, for me
00:07:08no, no, no, the demand he says is three times more,
00:07:11brother, what happens is that... we are brutally impoverished so that three million seems like a
00:07:15fortune, honestly, three times less they don't want three times more, that's why
00:07:18exactly, so, so sorry, you spoke of a social climate
00:07:22issue too and this happens, what you said, what are the ministries eating? Because this was the
00:07:26government that supposedly came to end the caste
00:07:29eating, you know how well the ministry is eating, that's why then the driver who is
00:07:32working all day for a minimum wage sees what they are eating in the ministry, sees that
00:07:36they didn't finish anything with the caste, that they continue to fill their pockets and they say, "man, for me
00:07:40in photos we are all workers."
00:07:46He says, "we are tired, we already gave them too much time to improve
00:07:50our salary and working conditions, everything is going to rot," verbatim, that's what
00:07:53the drivers tell you, everything is going to rot. I want to add a piece of information, a
00:07:56piece of information in the transport budget because we railway workers are also part of the
00:08:00same budget item that is allocated for salaries in
00:08:05is being agreed upon was given because we were given a 3.73%
00:08:09increase and it is agreed that until March of next year there will
00:08:13be no increase, until March there is none, so you have a semester without an increase and
00:08:17you have to get through the end of the year which you always know has devaluation, which you always know
00:08:21has a seasonal increase, etcetera, so actually what is
00:08:24being done is throwing gasoline on the fire and I hope they strike because we have to see if
00:08:28there is mandatory conciliation or not and that this really helps to see if we can, you want them to strike, you
00:08:32want the drivers to no, yes, if a union has to go out and hit
00:08:35the government hard to say, well, let's go out with them,
00:08:39we have to do what the CGT doesn't want to do, which is to unite. which is a bit what the
00:08:43lady was saying, all unions have this problem, no one is earning, why don't you on the
00:08:47trains, why don't the train workers, we who have it, it is like that,
00:08:50we strike, I say, they don't want to, yes, we have to do a general strike
00:08:54because when you do only one line then everything comes to you, they apply to you, so if they are not going to
00:08:58defend you, what do they apply when you strike on the line, you can have dismissals,
00:09:01suspensions, sanctions, you have to have backing, you have to strike and know
00:09:05then when on the other side they slap you with what you are going to
00:09:08defend yourself with, so well, when you are like if you are only one factory, if all
00:09:11the factories make a union, the trains are the same, one thing is one train
00:09:15asking for an increase in a collective bargaining agreement that is for all trains and another thing is
00:09:19all trains stopped, if transport stops, we all have to stop and that's it,
00:09:22that is, to stop the country, transport
00:09:25absolutely paralyzes everything, totally, but now you see how the discussion
00:09:29is polarized, it seems that if you are on one side you say one thing you are a libertarian and if not you are
00:09:32a Kirchnerite, when it is not like that, it is common sense, besides, you recognize the street a bit
00:09:36and it is not only happening to bus drivers, it is happening to everyone,
00:09:40colleagues who have many years and profession are telling me
00:09:44that I am not getting work, very recognized criminal lawyers are not getting
00:09:48work, lawyers are not getting work, people are even resorting to public defenders, for example, just so you have an idea, that is,
00:09:51all of Argentina is going through a very
00:09:55complex social situation, the government is now it has nothing to do with that, you are already
00:09:58informed, we have a breaking news, we go to prison.
00:10:02dale.
00:10:05dale.
00:10:17Prisoners posing as
00:10:18police,
00:10:22this is how they scam you from prison.
00:10:27Prisoners from the cell block continue to steal, defraud, do
00:10:30harm,
00:10:33live chronicle from Olmos prison, let's go with
00:10:36Cristian first, let's see in Olmos prison what happened, Lucas, in the prison, what is
00:10:40happening, let's go, exactly, let's see, they did a search inside one of them,
00:10:45the images we are observing, from there they called you, they extorted you and they
00:10:49asked for money, that is, they called you by
00:10:52phone.
00:11:25Let's say that prisoners having cell phones is a
00:11:29measure taken by the penitentiary service, I guess it will be the
00:11:32province of Buenos Aires that enables this type of business from
00:11:36prison, eh, if a business is enabled, clearly politics is
00:11:39biting into that, there is money that goes and it is a very big business, we are talking
00:11:43about millions of pesos that are moved from prison, so I say who is the
00:11:47son of a bitch who is collecting from politics, I'm not talking about the prisoner, the
00:11:50prisoner is a delinquent, what do you want him to do inside prison, if he is not given an education, the
00:11:54guy... will continue to offend, now who, who is the one who is
00:11:58biting from the province the money that these guys are
00:12:01making from prison, to people who even have debts, it's
00:12:05incredible what you're going to hear in a bit, I'm going live with Cristian, Cristian, how
00:12:08are we, everything good, good evening, Tomás, this is a
00:12:12scandal, this is a scandal, while you
00:12:16wake up early, while a retiree counts coins to make it to the end of the
00:12:20month, inside a Buenos Aires prison
00:12:23there are prisoners who... according to justice had
00:12:27their own office, their own call center, that's
00:12:31right, ladies and gentlemen, an office of
00:12:33crime inside Olmos prison, almost
00:12:3720,000 calls from a cell phone, 11
00:12:40telephone chips, eight cell phones
00:12:43seized, and you know what's the most incredible thing, that they had
00:12:47office hours, they made
00:12:51in the morning to 5 in the afternoon, but they didn't sell insurance, they offered
00:12:55loans, they called retirees to
00:12:58scam them, that's right, guys, in this place we are
00:13:02talking about that they arrested a person, a
00:13:04very well-known criminal, a
00:13:07criminal who has to serve a 30-year
00:13:10sentence for homicide, we are talking about a
00:13:14subject named Hugo
00:13:17Miguel, alias "the gypsy," who was the person
00:13:20arrested, who posed as Assistant Commissioner
00:13:23Gutiérrez.
00:13:25one second, we're going to listen to this guy, does that seem okay? Let's go.
00:13:28We started listening to the audios, the audios
00:13:30we listened to
00:13:33Hello, good afternoon, who's speaking?
00:13:36Assistant Commissioner Gutiérrez from first session, Mrs.
00:13:40Mónica.
00:13:43I'm not Mónica, I'm Sandra. Sandra, no,
00:13:46Mrs. Mónica who was run over by her
00:13:49brother.
00:13:51Oh, wait a moment, I'm going to write it down.
00:14:25it's true, but a commissioner was asking for money, supposedly, he's not one of the
00:14:28detainees, the detainee who pretends to be Assistant Commissioner González,
00:14:32clear, but the Assistant Commissioner supposedly asked for money from a woman
00:14:36why would a commissioner ask you for money? They take advantage
00:14:39of elderly, humble people, who are perhaps not very educated, who don't know what
00:14:43the instructions are for you to give a bail through
00:14:47a transfer to an assistant commissioner, it's crazy.
00:14:49While the fake assistant commissioner talks to the
00:14:53person, what he does is extract information from you.
00:15:04Yes, yes, yes, it's me, go ahead, listen to what they are asking you, look,
00:15:06they are
00:15:11the audios that we are going to listen to, well, we already listened, we already listened to the audios, we are with Cristian, Cristian, go ahead, we
00:15:15listen to you, let's go, let's go with you, good, good, guys,
00:15:19we are working on the spot, let's remember that several searches were carried out here
00:15:23with Rolo, we are at the door. precisely of the
00:15:26penitentiary service, look, we are zooming in and further up
00:15:29we can see, eh, there in the windows in the distance,
00:15:33eh, there to the right it would be, behind, eh,
00:15:36there precisely in those windows, from there we see activity, we see
00:15:39movement, apparently it could be the time, let's remember that here there are
00:15:43many pavilions, it is a very large unit, it covers almost
00:15:46the entire, well, almost all the block, eh, the
00:15:49roundabout and you have several patios with different
00:15:53exit times, we see movement, it could be a recreational moment
00:15:57for some part of the pavilion, we are talking about that here are the most
00:16:01dangerous criminals of the province of
00:16:03Buenos Aires, or part of the most dangerous criminals of the province.
00:16:19What is the reason why a dangerous criminal has a cell phone if he doesn't
00:16:23work for politics? I
00:16:26say, let's see, you have a prison working for the security
00:16:29fund of the governor of the province of Buenos Aires, it's a question I
00:16:33ask myself, it's not a prison,
00:16:38that is, they are three prisons all working for a call center,
00:16:42how much money do these guys collect? Millions, sorry, messages are already
00:16:46arriving telling us that yesterday they called my mom's house saying that my brother had
00:16:50run over a pregnant woman, he pretended to be
00:16:53the commissioner, the same thing, and he said that we had to pay a bond for him to be
00:16:56released, by the way, I didn't believe him and they hung up, it's the
00:16:59same, exactly the audios that we are listening to, that we are going to listen to, are
00:17:02carbon copies, how much money did they take from them? More or less it says how much money they
00:17:06take from the audios that we had seen that Chipinti
00:17:09passed us, around 3 million pesos they asked for per
00:17:13person, per woman, yes, there is
00:17:16a woman who ends up saying wait, I'm going to see if I can get money
00:17:20because today I bought my medication and I ran out of money, I did studies, she
00:17:24says, and I spent everything on that, and she says wait, I'll ask Carmela, as if
00:17:27she starts asking relatives and you already talked to him and a not
00:17:31minor detail is that the person who calls first says I am his commissioner, then he says I'll
00:17:35pass you to your son and the son's voice is yelling and
00:17:38crying so that mom can't recognize him, one thing I want to tell you, when there is a narco in your neighborhood
00:17:42it's because politics enables
00:17:45prison it's because politics is enabling it, these are not human rights
00:17:49guys, these are not human rights, human rights are what are being violated against the woman who cannot
00:17:53buy medication and who has to pay a guy, a son of a bitch who
00:17:56is in prison committing crimes because those who
00:18:00rehabilitate them, well, it's not happening, guys, unfortunately it's not
00:18:03happening, that they give them courses through Wikipedia on their cell phone.
00:18:37I can catch them behind the camera, I'll catch them behind the camera only, don't focus on them, don't focus
00:18:41on them, behind the camera only, listen to me, dear, eh, the name doesn't matter,
00:18:45let's call him Juan, listen, what's the story here,
00:18:48finally, what can you tell us, what have you found out? And no,
00:18:52many things happen here, eh, I have several
00:18:55clients who work here and they tell me many very ugly stories that
00:18:59happen here, but nothing, yes, eh, I don't
00:19:02know much about what's inside, I've never been inside, eh, but yes,
00:19:06I have several acquaintances who entered there, work there, they tell me many
00:19:09things, what have they told you like that, what kind of place do you
00:19:13find inside, obviously it's a prison, there are about 2600 prisoners,
00:19:17I think there are even more, no, there are
00:19:20drugs, deaths, everything, I have a colleague who recently
00:19:24entered because he is in the service and he told me that
00:19:27there is also a lot of, how do you say the word,
00:19:31trafficking, well,
00:19:33eh, trafficking.
00:19:36not beyond the trafficking type,
00:19:39a lot of corruption
00:19:43that there is one of the pavilions that is one of the most luxurious pavilions that literally
00:19:46there are a bunch of luxury items
00:19:50like that and give me a second Cristian, give me a second, give me a second, Lucas,
00:19:53describe the audios, the audios in which the guys extort
00:19:57whom, who are the victims and how much money can they get from
00:20:01victims? They can get a lot of money, even millions, look what I'm telling you, when I talk about
00:20:05millions, it can be 3 million, 4 million. It's what the
00:20:08victim has for each victim and there are three prisons that are working on that, it's not just one
00:20:11victim per day, there can be 10, 15, 20 victims
00:20:15per day, why do these guys have cell phones, no? Because justice allowed it, it
00:20:19allowed it during the pandemic, it continues,
00:20:22that's the big, that is, during the pandemic they facilitated them, of course, so that they wouldn't
00:20:26be alone, besides they released a couple of prisons of
00:20:30incautated, not of incautated, it's a call
00:20:32center, justice allows it because a politician allows
00:20:35it, because of course. A politician tells you here I don't want cell phones and
00:20:39he comes out with a campaign, the
00:20:41police, because this is what he does and those who command the
00:20:45police, the politicians, don't know it, because it's not just the politicians, it's also the corruption of the
00:20:49police themselves. I'll just tell you an anecdote, I was in a Didi
00:20:52and the guy who was driving worked in a prison, Marcos Paz,
00:20:56talking, telling, I say what's the most dangerous thing you have in
00:21:00your job, my colleagues, that is, the
00:21:03colleagues of the service who are saying someone is doing it because they don't have enough money,
00:21:09the police, that is, I'm not going to dissociate the responsibilities of politicians,
00:21:12etcetera, etcetera, now here the corruption in the
00:21:16police exists strongly, I'm going to tell you one thing.
00:21:20I understand what you're saying, but you can control that corruption of your
00:21:23penitentiary service employee, how do you control it? With a simple measure, you put
00:21:27jammers in the prison and
00:21:30you only lift the jammer 15 minutes a day when they have to
00:21:34communicate with their family and that's it with some numbers the
00:21:37family, you are enabling, guys, for them to collect money and all that money goes
00:21:41to a place, no, if justice is
00:21:44enabling it, if
00:21:47justice is enabling it, it's not only the police who are stealing
00:21:50from there, it's politics, the judicial corporation, now I
00:21:54tell you, this transcends any ideology and political party, they get their act together to do it well as I think
00:21:57they did in Chubut, they unanimously removed this garbage, eh, all the political
00:22:01parties, unanimously removed this garbage, go ahead, Juli, let's go, here a person who was there writes to us,
00:22:05he says I was detained for three years and 10 months, the prison chiefs take the
00:22:09money, I lived it personally, many
00:22:12corrupt people are in the service, that is, the prison chief takes the
00:22:15money, no, the prison chief does not take the money, the
00:22:19prison chief takes it.
00:22:22Clearly, everyone bites, let's say, everyone bites, but why do I say, let's not
00:22:25only focus on politicians, because it seems that here after that the
00:22:29uniformed ones come and they are all saints, also military,
00:22:32police are also all crossed what did you just
00:22:35say? You just said that the penitentiary service was working for Didi, that is,
00:22:39they are starving, but I say the leadership, you don't
00:22:42have all police officers are corrupt, now it's
00:22:46police as well as the military are corrupt, that's how it is, they let them
00:22:50do that, who puts them there, no, no, but who lets them do
00:22:53that, I'm not saying that politics is not corrupt, what I'm saying is that let's not say that only
00:22:57politicians are corrupt, because that allows them to make it seem like the security
00:23:01forces are all saints, so
00:23:04the in the politicians, there is also in the armies, go ahead, we are
00:23:08with you, Cristian, we listen to you, come on,
00:23:11good, good, guys, we are seeing the movement, eh, look, observe here the shot Rolo is
00:23:15giving me, there is movement upstairs then in the pavilion and here talking with the
00:23:19guys, look, there is movement then, eh, yes, yes, they
00:23:22are looking out, eh, it seems they are watching Crónica, guys, eh, it seems they are watching Crónica, we know the
00:23:26inmates are seen with orange
00:23:29clothes, yes, yes, yes, of course, the call center is insulting you, it's the call center,
00:23:33guys, they are insulting
00:23:35you. Look, what, what are they telling you, Cristian? I'm
00:23:39trying to listen, eh, look, there the guys are nervous,
00:23:43look, they look out the window, they look out the window,
00:23:46let's see, let's see what they say,
00:23:49let's see, I can't quite make out what they're saying because here you talk
00:23:52to people and they tell you on the weekend you hear music, another
00:23:56day
00:24:00you hear screams, music at full volume at any
00:24:03time, shots, everything, also a bunch of things that happen there,
00:24:07shots, no, no shots, no shots,
00:24:11no shots, no shots, but
00:24:13clearly no, it could be outside itself, it says it's heard,
00:24:17it could be that they come from another part, not from the
00:24:20the issue of scams inside the prison, how they
00:24:24manage cell phones to scam people who, well, are obviously the
00:24:27victims, we already received an audio, we received an audio from a
00:24:31person who was scammed from a prison because it says it's a
00:24:35call from the bank supposedly, no, on a Saturday
00:24:38morning they send her, they make a call telling her that they are
00:24:42from a bank, from a card, they also do Mercado Pago and the lady sends us
00:24:46the audio, so now I'm going to send it to production to see if we can listen to it, great.
00:24:50Well, do you want me to, do you want me to play it here?
00:24:52Because
00:24:57I need to give you the
00:25:01customer service
00:25:03number.
00:25:05She takes a minute to
00:25:16I don't have a visa with my job, please, to the client.
00:25:31the lights have just gone out. The lights on the first floor have just gone out. Christian, you speak, we
00:25:35listen to you, tell us what's happening, the lights are out, guys, eh, yes, the lights have just
00:25:39gone out so we are observing the movement that is
00:25:42upstairs in the pavilion, precisely we are
00:25:45observing what is happening in this framework of an investigation with
00:25:49positive results. Arrest warrants for detention, apprehension, we are
00:25:53talking about an illicit association for fraud and
00:25:56linkage with attempted robbery, home invasion and
00:26:00"uncle's stories", we are talking about it extending here in this prison
00:26:04where we are in Mar de Plata, in Batán, as Lucas
00:26:07mentioned before, we are talking
00:26:10the main one arrested, Miguel Hugo Franco,
00:26:1462 years old, alias, sub-commissioner
00:26:17Gutiérrez or better known as the gypsy here inside who is
00:26:20housed in this unit where we are, afterwards, eh, they
00:26:24found eight cell phones
00:26:28eh two SIM card trays for companies,
00:26:31well.
00:26:39It's not that they found them, someone enabled them and then when they decided to cut them off
00:26:43already because the information had spread too much, they cut
00:26:46it off and supposedly they found that, see the funny part
00:26:50of all this, look, the DDI of Marapilata starts an
00:26:53investigation, yes, when the victims start to testify, all
00:26:57the accounts coincided, they start to investigate where those calls were coming from, there are 50 calls
00:27:01daily that the police have registered. Oh, look when you start following those
00:27:04calls, they say, don't worry, we're going to fill out when they ask for the
00:27:07address, the addresses where they were in the prison, in the prison itself,
00:27:11in the prison itself, 50 calls per day, 50 calls daily per
00:27:15prison, anyway, I'm going to tell you something that will interest you. This scam started in the year
00:27:192000, eh, it's very old, it's just that
00:27:22now it became popular because now we have many prisons and they have more
00:27:26access. In 2000, we had calls from
00:27:28prisons and there are already records of fraud at a judicial level,
00:27:36in virtual kidnappings, exactly, from public telephones in prisons, but they were virtual
00:27:39kidnappings, that is, also for the office phone of
00:27:43the penitentiary
00:27:43service.
00:27:48There are people indebted for this. No, no,
00:27:51yes, yes, you know what they did, wait, I'll take out a Mercado Pago, wait, I'll ask for
00:27:55a loan and they end up asking for loans to be able to pay, well, let's start
00:27:59listening to the audios, they already turned off the lights in the prison, I really
00:28:02don't know if we are in a position to know, then you tell us, Christian, what the
00:28:06guys are telling you, things are getting a bit thick, but let's listen to the
00:28:09audio, let's show it, go ahead, go ahead, there
00:28:12we go back, we listen to audio, go ahead, madam, you are
00:28:16the eh
00:28:19Gutiérrez commissioner
00:28:23sub-commissioner, no madam commissioner sub commissioner sub
00:28:27sub-commissioner, sorry no, please
00:28:30Gutiérrez well, can you tell me the
00:28:33situation because I'm just finding out about all this and
00:28:36no, I already told you, I don't know if your brother
00:28:40Diego told you that your brother
00:28:44had an accident, he ran over a pregnant woman,
00:28:47well, there's the second audio, let's keep listening, eh, how they
00:28:51operate from prison so that you understand, they caught
00:28:56they caught the judges and made them put up money, you understand, that is,
00:29:00if you catch judges, imagine if they won't catch you.
00:29:23Let's do the math together, let's do the math, it said there were 50 calls, let's say
00:29:27that out of those 50 calls 10 go well for you, let's take the
00:29:31minimum, 10 go well for you. At 3 million pesos, which you said were the scams they
00:29:35were doing, that's 30 million pesos per
00:29:38prison, if there are five prisons per day, that's
00:29:41150 million pesos, you understand,
00:29:44daily, that is, we're talking daily, now
00:29:47let's be much less, let's put
00:29:50less 30 million per day, 30 million per day, 30
00:29:54million per day is almost 1 million pesos per month, million
00:29:58pesos per month, look if politics won't be there, do you think the head of the
00:30:01prison will do that? If politics isn't there, guys, come on guys, then
00:30:05they want to be president, an idea can come out of here, we can't send them an idea
00:30:09so that not even by chance do the
00:30:12legislators get one, so that someone proposes a little project to take
00:30:16cell phones out of
00:30:16prison.
00:30:21We make a solidarity payment here and they block your account, they load
00:30:25millions and millions and millions and nothing happens,
00:30:29well, let's keep listening to the audio, go ahead, that's how they scam.
00:30:34Good morning, Mrs. Beatriz,
00:30:37good morning, madam, sub-commissioner
00:30:39Gutiérrez
00:30:41third, what do you want, I
00:30:45nothing, madam, a relative of yours was in a traffic
00:30:48accident, what's her name, I'll pass you to her, madam
00:30:52I'll
00:30:55pass you to her, madam, clear, but the lady is
00:30:58clever.