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00:00:01WORKING TO PUBLICLY CREATE A
00:00:03NATIONAL DISCUSSION ABOUT THE FACT THAT MOST DECISIONS ARE
00:00:06MADE IN THE PRIMARIES, NOT IN THE GENERAL ELECTION. OUR
00:00:09GENERAL ELECTIONS HAVE BECOME SO UNCOMPETITIVE. IT'S KIND OF A
00:00:14NATIONAL EMBARRASSMENT. >> SO TALK TO US ABOUT HOW YOU
00:00:16GOT TO THIS WORK, YOUR OWN PROFESSIONAL BACKGROUND IN
00:00:19ELECTORAL POLITICS AND ADVOCACY FOR INDEPENDENT VOTERS.
00:00:23>> YEAH, I COME OUT OF THE THIRD PARTY MOVEMENT. I GOT INVOLVED
00:00:26IN DEMOCRACY WORK, IN CREATING ALTERNATIVE POLITICAL PARTIES
00:00:29BACK IN THE LATE 80s, EARLY 90s, I WAS PART OF THE PEROT
00:00:32MOVEMENT. I HELPED GET MIKE BLOOMBERG ELECTED AS AN
00:00:36INDEPENDENT IN NEW YORK CITY,
00:00:38AND WE HAD SOME PHENOMENAL, UH,
00:00:43EXPERIMENTS AND SOME TREMENDOUS
00:00:45FAILURES. AND ONE OF THE THINGS
00:00:48THAT WHEN PEROT GOT 20 MILLION
00:00:50VOTES BACK IN 1992, IT REALLY SHOOK THINGS UP, UH, BOTH GOOD
00:00:53AND BAD, AND CREATED AN
00:00:56ENVIRONMENT IN WHICH THE, THE DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS REALLY DON'T WANT.
00:00:59>> WE'RE GOING TO BREAK AWAY FROM THIS HERE TO BRING YOU A SIMULCAST OF THE THOM HARTMANN
00:01:03PROGRAM FROM PORTLAND, OREGON. THIS IS LIVE ON C-SPAN.
00:01:06>> TWO STARTS IN SIX MINUTES. OUR RADIO STATIONS AROUND THE
00:01:10COUNTRY ARE IN THEIR NEWS BREAK RIGHT NOW. SO I JUST WANTED TO TALK TO, TO YOU FOLKS WHO ARE
00:01:14WATCHING US ON C-SPAN. UH, TODAY
00:01:15IS COLUMBUS DAY. UH, ALSO
00:01:20INDIGENOUS PERSONS OR INDIGENOUS AMERICANS DAY. UM, HOWEVER,
00:01:23THEY'RE CALLING IT. AND I THINK IT'S WORTH REMEMBERING, YOU
00:01:25KNOW, WHAT HAPPENED WHEN
00:01:28COLUMBUS LANDED THIS, THIS GREAT
00:01:30HERO. UH, AND I SAY THAT
00:01:32SARCASTICALLY, THAT WHEN COLUMBUS LANDED IN HISPANOLA,
00:01:36UM, YOU KNOW WHAT IS NOW, UH,
00:01:41THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC AND HAITI, UM, HE SAID WHEN OUR
00:01:44SHIPS WERE TO LEAVE FOR SPAIN,
00:01:48THIS IS THEY GATHERED WHEN, WHEN HE AND HIS CREW ARRIVED, THIS WAS ON THEIR, THEIR SECOND
00:01:52VISIT. UH, THEY CAME WITH ENOUGH
00:01:53CANNONS, GUNS, AND SWORDS TO TAKE CAPTIVE 1600 LOCAL
00:01:57VILLAGERS WHO HAD COME OUT TO
00:01:59GREET THEM. UH, MIGUEL QUINONES,
00:02:01WHO WAS A MEMBER, PROBABLY ONE
00:02:04OF THE MOST LITERATE MEMBER OF,
00:02:07OF COLUMBUS CREW. HE KEPT EXTENSIVE DIARIES. HE WROTE,
00:02:11QUOTE, WHEN OUR SHIPS WERE TO LEAVE FOR SPAIN, WE GATHERED
00:02:151600 MALE AND FEMALE PERSONS OF THOSE INDIANS. AND OF THESE WE
00:02:18EMBARKED IN OUR SHIPS ON FEBRUARY 17th, 1495. FOR THOSE
00:02:21WHO REMAINED. HE'S TALKING ABOUT THE SPANIARDS. UH, WE LET IT BE
00:02:25KNOWN, UH, IN THE VICINITY, THAT
00:02:27ANYONE WHO WANTED TO TAKE SOME OF THEM COULD DO SO TO THE
00:02:31AMOUNT DESIRED, WHICH WAS DONE.
00:02:34HE NOTED THAT COLUMBUS HAD GIVEN
00:02:36HIM A PARTICULARLY BEAUTIFUL,
00:02:40UH, TEENAGE GIRL AS HIS PERSONAL
00:02:43SLAVE. AND HE WROTE THAT WHEN HE ATTEMPTED TO HAVE SEX WITH HER,
00:02:45SHE, QUOTE, RESISTED WITH ALL HER STRENGTH. SO IN HIS OWN
00:02:49WORDS, HE, QUOTE, THRASHED HER
00:02:53MERCILESSLY AND RAPED HER. HE WROTE THIS IN HIS DIARY, WRIGHT.
00:02:56HE'S PROUD OF THIS. UH, AS A
00:03:01REWARD, COLUMBUS FREQUENTLY GAVE
00:03:05HIS MEN YOUNG TAINO GIRLS TO TO
00:03:06RAPE. UH, HE HE ALSO STARTED A
00:03:11SEX SLAVE TRADE. UH, IN FACT, HE
00:03:12WROTE TO A FRIEND IN, IN 1500,
00:03:16QUOTE, 100. CASTELLANOS, A CASTELLANO WAS A SPANISH COIN
00:03:19BACK THEN. 100. CASTELLANOS ARE
00:03:21AS EASILY OBTAINED FOR A WOMAN
00:03:23AS FOR A FARM. AND IT IS VERY GENERAL. AND THERE ARE PLENTY OF
00:03:27DEALERS WHO GO ABOUT LOOKING FOR
00:03:28GIRLS, THOSE
00:04:16FROM 9 TO 10 YEARS OLD ARE NOW THE MOST IN DEMAND. BRING HIM
00:04:19GOLD AND OR WHATEVER TREASURE
00:04:21THEY COULD FIND, PRECIOUS STONES
00:04:25OR WHATEVER, AND THEN HE SENT HIS MEN OUT. AND WHEN, YOU KNOW,
00:04:29THERE WAS BASICALLY NO GOLD
00:04:30THERE. UM, SO, BUT TO PUNISH THEM, HE CUT OFF THE HANDS OF A
00:04:34NUMBER OF THEM FOR NOT BRINGING
00:04:39HIM TREASURES. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, THE GOAL OF CUTTING OFF
00:04:41THE NOSE OR EAR WAS SO THAT THEY
00:04:43WOULD GO BACK TO THE VILLAGE AND
00:04:46IMPRESS EVERYBODY ELSE WITH COLUMBUS'S BRUTALITY. UH,
00:04:50COLUMBUS AND HIS MEN ATTACKED THE TAINO WITH DOGS. THEY
00:04:54SKEWERED THEM ON POLES FROM TO
00:04:56MOUTH, AND SHOT THEM.
00:04:59EVENTUALLY, LIFE FOR THE TAINO
00:05:00BECAME SO UNBEARABLE THAT AS
00:05:03PEDRO DE CORDOBA, ANOTHER PERSON
00:05:07WHO WAS PART OF THE EXPEDITION, WROTE TO KING FERDINAND IN A
00:05:101517 LETTER, QUOTE, AS A RESULT
00:05:13OF THE SUFFERINGS AND HARD LABOR
00:05:15THEY ENDURED, THE INDIANS CHOOSE AND HAVE CHOSEN SUICIDE.
00:05:19OCCASIONALLY, A HUNDRED HAVE COMMITTED MASS SUICIDE. THE
00:05:22WOMEN, EXHAUSTED BY LABOR, HAVE SHUNNED CONCEPTION AND
00:05:26CHILDBIRTH. MANY, WHEN PREGNANT, HAVE TAKEN SOMETHING TO ABORT
00:05:29AND HAVE ABORTED. OTHERS AFTER
00:05:31DELIVERY, HAVE KILLED THEIR CHILDREN WITH THEIR OWN HANDS,
00:05:34SO AS NOT TO LEAVE THEM IN SUCH
00:05:38OPPRESSIVE SLAVERY. AND, OF COURSE, SIMILAR PATTERN PLAYED OUT ON CONTINENTAL NORTH AMERICA
00:05:42OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT TWO
00:05:45CENTURIES. UM, ENGLISH SETTLERS FIRST TRIED TO DOMINATE THE
00:05:49AMERICAN TRIBES, AND THEN BEGAN
00:05:52IMPORTING PEOPLE FROM AFRICA TO,
00:05:53UH, YOU KNOW, TO, TO LIVE IN
00:05:56SLAVERY, TO BE ENSLAVED. AND
00:06:00PRIOR >> COLUMBUS'S ARRIVAL. MOST SCHOLARS PLACE THE POPULATION OF
00:06:03THE ISLAND. YOU KNOW, HISPANIOLA
00:06:06AT AROUND 300,000 PEOPLE. BY
00:06:081496, IT WAS DOWN TO 110,000.
00:06:11ACCORDING TO A CENSUS BY HIS OWN
00:06:14BROTHER, BARTHOLOMEW. COLUMBUS.
00:06:17BY 1516, HIS BROTHER'S CENSUS
00:06:20SAID THAT ONLY 12,000 OF THESE
00:06:21INDIANS WERE LEFT, AND PRIEST BARTOLOMÉ DE LAS CASAS, WHO WAS
00:06:25THERE, SAID THAT BY 1542, FEWER
00:06:29THAN 200 NATIVES WERE ALIVE. THE
00:06:32CENSUS OF 1555 FOUND EVERY
00:06:34SINGLE ONE DEAD. SO HAPPY
00:06:37COLUMBUS DAY. THE SHOW STARTS
00:06:41NOW.
00:06:42>> THIS IS THE THOM HARTMANN
00:06:47PROGRAM. >> [MUSIC] >> HEY, HAPPY MONDAY. HAPPY
00:06:51INDIGENOUS PEOPLES DAY. COLUMBUS DAY, WE CELEBRATE THE DAY OF THE
00:06:54GUY THAT AT LEAST TRUMP WANTS US
00:06:58TO CELEBRATE. THE GUY WHO WHO WAS ENSLAVING AND RAPING AND
00:07:02SELLING TEN YEAR OLD GIRLS. AND
00:07:04YEAH, YOU KNOW, HE WAS KIND OF
00:07:06THE ORIGINAL JEFFREY EPSTEIN. UM, SO ANYHOW, HERE WE ARE.
00:07:09WE'VE GOT A LOT TO TALK ABOUT
00:07:11TODAY IN THE NEXT THREE HOURS. BENEDICT ARNOLD SOLD OUT AMERICA
00:07:14ONCE AS TRUMP DOING IT AGAIN, THIS TIME FOR PUTIN. ALSO, THE
00:07:16WAR IS EXPANDING. THE ATTACKS ON SAUDI ARABIA ARE ABSOLUTELY
00:07:20BRUTAL. WHAT'S THIS GOING TO YOU KNOW, HOW IS THIS GOING TO PLAY
00:07:23OUT. AND A CRAZY ALERT. TRUMP MOCKS HIS SUPPORTERS RIGHT TO
00:07:26THEIR FACES. AND THEY APPLAUD
00:07:28HIM. IS THIS THE DEFINITION OF A
00:07:31CULT? AND THE SECOND HOUR OF OUR PROGRAM, BILL MCKIBBEN, IS GOING
00:07:33TO DROP BY FROM BAD TO BETTER.
00:07:35THE ARC OF THE PHYSICAL UNIVERSE BENDS TOWARD HEAT, BUT MAYBE WE
00:07:39CAN BEND IT BACK. ALSO, BREAKING
00:07:42NEWS. ILHAN OMAR'S DC HOME HAS
00:07:44BEEN REPORTEDLY RAIDED BY DHS
00:07:47AGENTS. ACTUALLY, THIS IS HOMELAND SECURITY
00:07:50INVESTIGATIONS, WHICH IS PART OF ICE. ARE THEY TRYING TO DEPORT
00:07:54HER? SURE LOOKS LIKE IT. AND,
00:07:57WELL, LAURA LOOMER IS CALLING
00:07:58FOR IT. UH, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY,
00:08:01TRUMP DOES WHAT SHE SAYS. ALSO, TRUMP'S DOJ HAS LAUNCHED AN
00:08:04INVESTIGATION INTO THE NEWS NETWORKS, RAISING A CHILLING QUESTION. IS THIS ABOUT
00:08:08ENFORCING THE LAW OR USING THE POWER OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO INTIMIDATE AND SILENCE THE
00:08:11PRESS? YOU KNOW, LIKE PUTIN DOES
00:08:14IN THE THIRD HOUR OF OUR PROGRAM, ACTRESS OR ACTOR MIMI
00:08:18KENNEDY IS GOING TO DROP BY TO
00:08:19TALK ABOUT VOTING. UM, SHE'S,
00:08:22UH, WITH PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRATS OF AMERICA. AND MAGA INFLUENCERS
00:08:26ARE USING FAKE NEWS TO TRY TO BRING DOWN TALARICO. AND IT'S,
00:08:29IT'S PRETTY FREAKING
00:08:33OUTRAGEOUS. SO HERE WE ARE. MY OP ED TODAY, MY DAILY TAKE, YOU
00:08:37KNOW, PLUS, WE'LL HAVE YOUR
00:08:38CALLS THROUGHOUT THE DAY. UM, MY
00:08:41DAILY TAKE TODAY IS TITLED BENEDICT ARNOLD SOLD OUT AMERICA ONCE AS TRUMP DOING IT AGAIN,
00:08:45ONLY THIS TIME FOR PUTIN. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YESTERDAY
00:08:49MORNING, TRUMP TOOK TO HIS NAZI INFESTED SOCIAL MEDIA SITE TO
00:08:52PROCLAIM THAT, UM, UH, RUSSIA
00:08:55AND UKRAINE HAD AGREED TO AN
00:08:58ENERGY CEASE FIRE IMMEDIATELY. UM, TWO THINGS HAPPENED. ONE
00:09:01WAS, UH, ZELENSKY CAME OUT AND
00:09:03SAID, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE
00:09:06TALKING ABOUT. AND THEN PUTIN LAUNCHED A WHOLE NEW BARRAGE OF
00:09:10MISSILES AT ENERGY RESOURCES IN
00:09:12UKRAINE AND KILLED A BUNCH MORE PEOPLE. SO CLEARLY, UH, NEITHER
00:09:16ONE OF THEM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS
00:09:19NEWS FOR EVERYBODY. AND TRUMP HAD MADE A SIMILAR ANNOUNCEMENT,
00:09:22BY THE WAY, BACK IN SEPTEMBER, AND IT TURNED OUT TO BE A LIE.
00:09:26UH, YOU KNOW, AND ZELENSKY AND,
00:09:28AND PUTIN CONTINUED TO FIRE MISSILES AT EACH OTHER. UM, MY
00:09:32GUESS IS THAT THE REASON THAT
00:09:34TRUMP DID THIS SAID THIS WAS
00:09:36HE'S TRYING TO DISTRACT US FROM
00:09:39THE MOST NAKEDLY PRO-RUSSIA ACT
00:09:41OF ANY AMERICAN PRESIDENT IN OUR
00:09:44NATION'S HISTORY. THAT HAPPENED ON FRIDAY. AND THIS WAS RIGHT
00:09:48AFTER ONE OF HIS, YOU KNOW, ABOUT EVERY TWO WEEKS SINCE HE
00:09:52GOT INAUGURATED. DONALD TRUMP IS ON THE PHONE WITH PUTIN
00:09:54SECRETLY, YOU KNOW, PRIVATELY.
00:09:58AND, UM, APPARENTLY HE'S EVEN DUMPED THE, YOU KNOW, HE USED TO
00:10:01HAVE, LIKE, SECURITY EXPERTS AND
00:10:04PEOPLE LIKE THAT ON THE CALLS. APPARENTLY, THAT'S ALL GONE.
00:10:07AND, UH, HE CAME OUT AND
00:10:13ANNOUNCED THAT THESE SANCTIONS AGAINST RUSSIAN OIL AND THE SALE OF RUSSIAN OIL AND OUR SANCTIONS
00:10:17ON COUNTRIES THAT BUY RUSSIAN
00:10:19OIL, WHICH WAS THE BIG, THE BIG
00:10:22DEAL. UH, WE'RE GOING TO BE SUSPENDED FOR THE NEXT SIX
00:10:25MONTHS. NOW, WE'VE SUSPENDED THOSE SANCTIONS A COUPLE OF
00:10:29TIMES. WHEN PUTIN GOT IN TROUBLE. TRUMP HAS SUSPENDED
00:10:32THEM IN THE PAST, I BELIEVE, TWICE, BOTH TIMES JUST FOR ONE
00:10:36MONTH, FOR 30 DAYS. BUT THIS TIME IT'LL BE SIX MONTHS, WHICH
00:10:39IS GOING TO GIVE RUSSIA BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. NOW,
00:10:43THE AMOUNT OF
00:10:58OIL OR THE AMOUNT OF DIESEL THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, SUCH AS NINE DAYS WORTH OF DIESEL FOR
00:11:01THE UNITED STATES, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO. NUMBER ONE, WE ARE
00:11:04DIESEL INDEPENDENT. WE PRODUCE ALL OF OUR OWN DIESEL. WE DON'T
00:11:07IMPORT DIESEL FROM RUSSIA. UM, AND THE ONLY REASON THAT WE'RE
00:11:11PAYING SUCH A HIGH PRICE FOR DIESEL IS NOT BECAUSE WE HAVE A
00:11:14SUPPLY PROBLEM IN THE UNITED STATES, BUT BECAUSE THE OIL
00:11:18COMPANIES, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL RECALL DONALD TRUMP DURING THE
00:11:20CAMPAIGN IN 2024. HE HAD A BUNCH OF OIL EXECUTIVES IN THE ROOM,
00:11:23AND HE SAID, GIVE ME $1 BILLION, AND I'LL DO ANYTHING YOU WANT.
00:11:27AND HE'S BEEN DOING THAT. HE'S BEEN CANCELING, YOU KNOW,
00:11:30WINDMILL, UH, YOU KNOW, OFFSHORE WIND PROJECTS. HE'S BEEN
00:11:33CANCELING SOLAR PROJECTS. HE'S
00:11:36ROLLED BACK OUR FUEL EFFICIENCY STANDARDS AND OUR POLLUTION
00:11:39STANDARDS SO THAT CARS CAN BURN
00:11:41MORE, MORE GASOLINE, GET LOWER GAS MILEAGE. UM, YOU KNOW, ALL
00:11:45THAT KIND OF STUFF. UM, AND SO
00:11:49THIS IS NOT REALLY GOING TO
00:11:51BENEFIT US AT ALL. BUT TRUMP IS HOPING, I BELIEVE THAT TRUMP, I
00:11:55BELIEVE THAT HE MADE THIS, UH,
00:11:58STATEMENT OR HE'S, HE SAID THIS
00:12:00FOR TWO REASONS. NUMBER ONE,
00:12:02PUTIN HAS GOT HIS BACK TO THE WALL. PUTIN IS IN DEEP TROUBLE
00:12:05RIGHT NOW. UM, THERE'S A GREAT
00:12:10ARTICLE BY A HISTORY PROFESSOR THAT I LINKED TO IN MY ARTICLE.
00:12:14UM, THAT JUST KIND OF GOES THROUGH ALL THAT. AND YOU KNOW, HOW PUTIN IS IN TROUBLE. AND I
00:12:17WON'T, I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL THE DETAILS RIGHT NOW, BUT, UM,
00:12:20THE RUSSIAN ECONOMY IS ON ITS
00:12:22KNEES. AND SO TRUMP JUST
00:12:26BASICALLY GAVE PUTIN BILLIONS OF
00:12:28DOLLARS A DAY. AND, YOU KNOW, FOR THE NEXT SIX MONTHS, WHICH
00:12:31HE DESPERATELY NEEDS. AND IT ALSO IS GOING TO FUEL UH,
00:12:35PUTIN'S, YOU KNOW, SLAUGHTER IN
00:12:38UKRAINE. UM, AND THEN HE WENT
00:12:42OUT IN FRONT OF THE WHITE HOUSE AND SAID TO THE PRESS, HE SAID,
00:12:44I WANT TO THANK PRESIDENT PUTIN
00:12:50I MEAN, I'M WONDERING WHAT'S
00:12:52GOING ON HERE. IS THIS TRUMP?
00:12:56UH, BAILING OUT HIS MENTOR OR
00:12:59HIS OWNER OR HIS BLACKMAILER? OR
00:13:05HAS TRUMP JUST DECIDED THAT AMERICA IS GOING TO BECOME LIKE
00:13:08RUSSIA, AND WE WILL ALIGN OURSELVES WITH RUSSIA? IS THAT
00:13:10WHAT'S GOING ON? I MEAN, YOU GOT KASH PATEL GOING TO RUSSIA
00:13:14AND A COUPLE IN A WEEK OR SO,
00:13:16AND NOBODY WILL SAY, WHY. UH,
00:13:19THIS THIS IS, UH, TOTALLY WILD
00:13:25STUFF. AND BY THE WAY, THREE
00:13:28WEEKS AGO, DONALD TRUMP SIGNED
00:13:30THE LINDSAY AU GRAHAM
00:13:32SANCTIONING RUSSIA AND IRAN ACT. IT WAS SIGNED INTO LAW THREE
00:13:35WEEKS AGO, AND IT REQUIRES THAT
00:13:40STARTING SUNDAY OF THIS WEEK,
00:13:43WE, THE UNITED STATES OR TRUMP
00:13:45THE PRESIDENT ON BEHALF OF WE,
00:13:47THE UNITED STATES, BEGIN PUNISHING COUNTRIES THAT ARE
00:13:50BUYING OIL FROM RUSSIA. AND NOT
00:13:54ONLY THAT, THERE'S THE ENDING IMPORTATION OF RUSSIAN OIL ACT
00:13:58THAT WAS PASSED IN 2022 BY
00:14:00CONGRESS. THAT SAYS THAT IF AN
00:14:06AMERICAN PRESIDENT WANTS TO IMPORT ANY RUSSIAN ENERGY
00:14:08PRODUCTS INTO THE UNITED STATES, AND THIS IS ANOTHER REASON WHY
00:14:11I'M SAYING THIS IS NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY IMPACT ON DIESEL, AND
00:14:15THAT RUSSIAN DIESEL IS NOT EVEN GOING TO END UP IN THE UNITED
00:14:17STATES, BUT THAT IF HE WANTED
00:14:20TO, HE HAS TO GIVE CONGRESS 45
00:14:23DAYS ADVANCE NOTICE. CONGRESS
00:14:27THEN HAS. HE HAS TO CERTIFY IN WRITING THAT RUSSIA HAS
00:14:30WITHDRAWN ALL OF ITS TROOPS FROM UKRAINE. AND RUSSIA, THEN HAS.
00:14:33OR, EXCUSE ME. AND CONGRESS THEN
00:14:37HAS 90 DAYS TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT TO GIVE HIM THAT PERMISSION.
00:14:39SO BASICALLY, IT'S FOUR AND A HALF MONTHS, LONG PROCESS FROM
00:14:43THE TIME THAT THE PRESIDENT DECLARES HE WANTS TO IMPORT
00:14:46FOSSIL FUEL PRODUCTS FROM RUSSIA UNTIL THE TIME HE CAN ACTUALLY DO IT. AND THAT'S ONLY WITH THE
00:14:50PERMISSION OF CONGRESS. SO THESE ARE TWO LAWS PASSED BY CONGRESS
00:14:54AND SIGNED THE FIRST, YOU KNOW, THE THE LINDSEY GRAHAM ACT
00:14:57SIGNED BY TRUMP. UH, THIS ENDING
00:14:59IMPORTATION ACT, SIGNED BY
00:15:03BIDEN, THAT DONALD TRUMP IS
00:15:06APPARENTLY BREAKING OR PLANNING TO BREAK. UH, JEANNE SHAHEEN,
00:15:09THE DEMOCRATIC SENATOR FROM NEW HAMPSHIRE POINTED THIS OUT. SHE SAID TRUMP AND HIS LICKSPITTLES
00:15:13HAVE TOTALLY BYPASSED EVERY ONE OF THESE REQUIREMENTS. THOM
00:15:15TILLIS, THE REPUBLICAN SENATOR,
00:15:18SAID YESTERDAY ON NBC'S MEET THE
00:15:21PRESS THAT THIS IS BOTH ILLEGAL
00:15:25AND WILL PUT AMERICAN LIVES AT RISK, WHICH PROVOKED
00:15:28CONGRESSMAN, REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN, FORMER REPUBLICAN
00:15:31CONGRESSMAN JOE WALSH, WHO'S BEEN ON THIS PROGRAM MANY TIMES,
00:15:34UH, TO SAY TRUMP IS A TRAITOR TO
00:15:38THE FREE WORLD. NOW, WALSH USED TO BE A LONELY VOICE IN HIS
00:15:41PARTY. BUT WHEN TRUMP ANNOUNCED
00:15:44THIS ON FRIDAY THAT HE WAS GOING
00:15:46TO END THE SANCTIONS ON RUSSIAN,
00:15:48UH, YOU KNOW, REFINED PETROLEUM
00:15:50PRODUCTS, MIKE PENCE CALLED IT A
00:15:52BETRAYAL OF SENATOR GRAHAM'S
00:15:55LEGACY. SENATOR, REPUBLICAN SENATOR LISA MURKOWSKI AND
00:15:58REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN DAN DAN
00:16:01BACON AND MICHAEL MCCAUL HAVE ALL CONDEMNED THIS. UH, BRIAN
00:16:05FITZPATRICK, WHO IS A REPUBLICAN
00:16:07CONGRESSMAN FROM PENNSYLVANIA,
00:16:10HAS TOLD HAS NOTIFIED MIKE
00:16:12JOHNSON THAT WHEN CONGRESS RESUMES AFTER THE ELECTION,
00:16:16HE'S GOING TO USE A DISCHARGE PETITION TO FORCE A VOTE ON A
00:16:19BILL THAT HE'S CALLING THE RONALD REAGAN PEACE THROUGH
00:16:21STRENGTH ACT THAT WOULD BLOCK
00:16:24ANY PURCHASE OF RUSSIAN OIL, EVEN THOUGH IT'S ALREADY
00:16:27ILLEGAL UNDER TWO DIFFERENT LAWS. SO, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE
00:16:29STARTING TO WONDER, WHAT SIDE IS TRUMP ON? AND IN FACT, THAT'S
00:16:33WHAT SENATOR MARK KELLY SAID YESTERDAY. WHOSE SIDE IS TRUMP
00:16:36ON? SO IS HE. I MEAN, YOU KNOW,
00:16:41IT APPEARS THAT TRUMP IS TRYING TO GUT OUR COUNTRY. HE'S TRYING
00:16:43TO DESTROY AMERICA. RIGHT? HE'S PUT AN ALCOHOLIC, B-LIST WEEKEND
00:16:47TV GUY IN CHARGE OF OUR PENTAGON. HE'S GOT A PLUMBER
00:16:50WHO'S IN CHARGE OF DHS. HE'S GOT A FRACKING GUY IN CHARGE OF
00:16:53ENERGY, A WRESTLING BILLIONAIRE
00:16:55IN CHARGE OF EDUCATION, A BRAIN
00:16:58WORM, DISABLED FORMER HEROIN AND SEX ADDICTED LAWYER IN CHARGE OF
00:17:01OUR NATION'S HEALTH, A KETAMINE ADDLED TRILLIONAIRE RIPPED UP OUR GOVERNMENT AND DESTROYED OUR
00:17:05SOFT POWER INTERNATIONALLY BY TAKING DOWN USAID. HE'S SHUT
00:17:09DOWN OUR PRO-DEMOCRACY PROPAGANDA OPERATIONS WITH THE
00:17:12VOICE OF AMERICA. HE PUT A MIRACLE, A WEIGHT LOSS MIRACLE
00:17:15PILL HAWKER IN CHARGE OF MEDICARE AND MEDICAID, A C-LIST
00:17:19FORMER REALITY TV STAR IS IN CHARGE OF OUR AIRLINES. HIS OWN
00:17:23CRIMINAL DEFENSE LAWYER IS RUNNING THE EPSTEIN COVERUP OVER AT THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. I
00:17:27MEAN, THE LIST JUST GOES ON AND
00:17:29ON AND ON, AND AND WE KNOW THAT
00:17:31TRUMP HAS BEEN, UH, REPEATEDLY
00:17:36INVOLVED WITH RUSSIA IN WAYS THAT HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE VERY CONCERNED. I MEAN, ALL THE WAY
00:17:39BACK TO HELSINKI WHEN HE TOOK
00:17:42PUTIN'S SIDE AND TRASH TALKED OUR OWN INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES.
00:17:46SO, YOU KNOW, IS, UH, WHAT'S,
00:17:49WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? I MEAN,
00:17:51YOU KNOW, BENEDICT ARNOLD, AT LEAST, WAS A MILITARY HERO
00:17:54BEFORE HE DECIDED TO SELL OUT AMERICA. YOU KNOW, HIS HE WAS
00:17:58SHOT IN THE LEFT LEG, AND THEN LATER, HIS LEG WAS SHATTERED AS
00:18:01HE WAS LEADING THE CHARGE IN THE
00:18:03BATTLE OF SARATOGA. TRUMP, ON
00:18:06THE OTHER HAND, YOU KNOW, HAD A PHONY X-RAY OF BONE SPURS TO GET
00:18:10OUT OF GOING TO VIETNAM. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S. BENEDICT
00:18:14ARNOLD, AT LEAST, HAD BEEN A PATRIOT AND FOUGHT IN THE
00:18:17REVOLUTIONARY WAR BEFORE HE
00:18:18BETRAYED OUR COUNTRY. I THINK
00:18:21THIS THIS BETRAYAL OF OUR COUNTRY IS SOMETHING THAT IS
00:18:24GOING TO LAST FOR A LONG TIME. I
00:18:26THINK PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO GENUINELY WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE
00:18:30HELL IS GOING ON, AND IS, HAS
00:18:32TRUMP SOLD US OUT TO PUTIN? IS
00:18:34THAT WHAT'S GOING ON HERE >> [MUSIC]
00:18:38>> THIS IS THE THOM HARTMANN PROGRAM.
00:18:41>> 18 MINUTES PAST THE HOUR. I'LL BE BACK WITH MORE OF THE NEWS OF THE DAY IN YOUR CALLS IN
00:18:43JUST A MOMENT.
00:18:52>> [MUSIC] [MUSIC]
00:18:59>> ALL THIS MONTH ON C-SPAN 2, WE'RE BRINGING YOU LIVE TALK
00:19:02RADIO SIMULCAST WITH VOICES FROM ACROSS THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM.
00:19:05THIS WEEK, PROGRESSIVE COMMENTATOR THOM HARTMANN HOSTS
00:19:08THE THOM HARTMANN PROGRAM FROM PORTLAND, OREGON, AT NOON EASTERN.
00:19:11>> YOU KNOW, THERE'S A GOOD LIKELIHOOD THAT KANSAS WILL
00:19:14ELECT THE FIRST DEMOCRAT TO THE
00:19:17SENATE SINCE 1932. AND THE GREAT
00:19:21FDR LANDSLIDE AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN ALMOST A HUNDRED
00:19:24YEARS. AND ROGER MARSHALL IS
00:19:26COMING UNDER. YOU KNOW, ADAM HAMILTON IS CONDUCTING A PRETTY,
00:19:30PRETTY TOGETHER CAMPAIGN. WE
00:19:31GOT, UH, A POSTCARD FROM, SOME
00:19:35PHYSICIAN WHO'S FORMER PHYSICIAN WHO USED TO WORK HERE IN PITTSBURGH, WHO'S CONDEMNING
00:19:39MARSHALL FOR, UH, HIS STANCE. AND OF COURSE, THEY'VE HAD
00:19:43ABOUT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT
00:19:45WOMEN HAVE APPEARED IN INTERNET ADS ABOUT HOW SHE HAD THEM
00:19:49THROWN IN JAIL BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T THEIR MEDICAL BILLS.
00:19:53RIGHT. AND THERE'S SEVERAL SOMETHING LIKE 50 WOMEN WERE THROWN IN JAIL OUT IN, UH, THAT
00:19:56PART OF THE COUNTRY. THEN, OF COURSE, SHE'S A BIG
00:20:00ANTI-ABORTION ADVOCATE AND FLAMING, YOU KNOW. YEAH. UH. >> WELL, AND HE'S A BIG
00:20:04SUPPORTER OF TRUMP, TOO.
00:20:05>> OH, YEAH. OH, OF COURSE. AND,
00:20:08UH, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE KRIS KOBACH GET
00:20:11BEATEN. I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, HE'S NOT WELL LIKED, LIKE TED
00:20:15CRUZ. EVERYBODY HATES HIM. EVEN THE REPUBLICANS. >> KOBACH IS WHAT RUNNING.
00:20:18>> FOR GOVERNOR. NO, HE IS THE ATTORNEY GENERAL. HE'S RUNNING TO BE REELECTED.
00:20:22>> OH, HE'S RUNNING FOR AG. OKAY.
00:20:25>> YEAH. AND HE'S ALREADY. AG. YEAH, HE WAS AG ONCE, AND HE,
00:20:28UH, HE LOST IN AN ATTEMPT TO BECOME THE GOVERNOR. MHM. HE WAS
00:20:32DEFEATED IN A COUPLE ELECTIONS, AND THEN HE WON AGAIN, YOU KNOW,
00:20:36IN 2024. YEAH. AND, UH, HE HAS TO RUN AGAIN. AND I'VE MET THE
00:20:39GUY WHO'S RUNNING AGAINST HIM. HE'S, YOU KNOW, A DECENT HUMAN BEING. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, HE
00:20:43THINKS HE HAS A GOOD CHANCE TO
00:20:44UNSEAT HIM. SO GOING TO HAPPEN,
00:20:48THIS WOULD BE IT. >> YEAH. YEAH. >> BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE
00:20:52ANOTHER INTERESTING THING THAT I FOUND OUT. THERE'S FIVE COUNTIES
00:20:55THAT ARE DEMOCRATIC LEANING IN, YOU KNOW, 84 COUNTIES OR
00:20:58SOMETHING, BUT FIVE URBANIZED COUNTIES THAT ARE DEMOCRATIC
00:21:02LEANING. AND THEY ALL HAVE
00:21:05APPOINTED COUNTY CLERKS
00:21:08APPOINTED BY REPUBLICAN REPUBLICANS IN THE LEGISLATURE.
00:21:10UH OH. WHEREAS ALL THE OTHER
00:21:13COUNTIES HAVE ELECTED CLERKS. >> OH, REALLY?
00:21:16>> YES. AND, I MEAN, I WAS AT A DEMOCRATIC PARTY MEETING THE OTHER NIGHT, TALKING WITH SOME
00:21:20NEWER STUFF, AND SHE'S THE ONE WHO POINTED THIS OUT TO ME. SO,
00:21:23YOU KNOW, THERE'S A MILLION
00:21:25WAYS TO, TO MAKE THINGS. YOU KNOW, THEY SEEM LIKE THEY'RE
00:21:28OKAY. AND, BUT ACTUALLY, THERE'S A LOT OF SKULLDUGGERY GOING ON. AND OF COURSE, PEOPLE
00:21:32ARE STRUGGLING FOR POWER. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT. >> YEAH. >> WE JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE,
00:21:36THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WITHIN SOME
00:21:38LIMITS THAT, UH, WE'RE THE
00:21:44FLOWER OF, OF GALLANTRY RULES OR SOMETHING. YEAH. AND THEY DO ONE
00:21:48THING AFTER ANOTHER DOES, BECAUSE THEY CERTAINLY DO. >> YEAH. NO, THIS IS ANOTHER
00:21:51GREAT EXAMPLE OF, OF HOW, YOU
00:21:53KNOW, IN A, IN A CLOSE ELECTION, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN STEAL IT.
00:21:57I MEAN, YOU KNOW, GREG PALACE
00:21:58DID THE MATH ON THE 2024
00:22:01ELECTION, AND THE REPUBLICANS HAD KNOCKED 4.2, AS I RECALL,
00:22:05MILLION AMERICANS IN THE SWING.
00:22:07STATES OFF THE VOTING ROLLS OR,
00:22:11OR CHALLENGE THEIR THEIR ACTUAL, YOU KNOW, BALLOTS. UM, AND HAD
00:22:14THEY HAD THAT NOT HAPPENED, UH, KAMALA HARRIS WOULD HAVE EASILY
00:22:18BECOME PRESIDENT AND WE WOULD HAVE A DEMOCRATIC HOUSE, FOR SURE.
00:22:21>> HE'S ALSO THE ONE WHO POINTED OUT WHAT THE, YOU'VE
00:22:24MENTIONED ON YOUR SHOW ABOUT
00:22:26THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, UH
00:22:29SECRETARY OF STATE OF TEXAS STOPPING THE HARRIS COUNTY FROM SENDING OUT.
00:22:33>> UH, YEAH. PAXTON PAXTON
00:22:34BRAGGED ABOUT THE FACT THAT IF HE HADN'T STOPPED THOSE BALLOTS
00:22:38FROM BEING MAILED TO EVERYBODY IN HOUSTON, THE LARGEST BLACK
00:22:41POPULATION IN AMERICA, BY THE WAY. THEN, UH, DONALD TRUMP
00:22:44WOULD HAVE LOST TEXAS. YEAH. YOU'RE RIGHT, DON, THANKS FOR THE CALL. ALWAYS GOOD TO HEAR
00:22:48FROM YOU. APPRECIATE IT. 22 MINUTES PAST THE HOUR. I'LL BE
00:22:51BACK WITH YOU IN 60s.
00:22:55>> [MUSIC] [MUSIC]
00:23:03>> C-SPAN 2. WE'RE BRINGING YOU LIVE TALK RADIO SIMULCAST WITH
00:23:06VOICES FROM ACROSS THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM THIS WEEK, PROGRESSIVE
00:23:09COMMENTATOR THOM HARTMANN HOSTS THE THOM HARTMANN PROGRAM FROM
00:23:12PORTLAND, OREGON, AT NOON EASTERN MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, AND THEN AT 3 P.M. EASTERN
00:23:17MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY. CONSERVATIVE RADIO HOST HUGH HEWITT HOSTS THE HUGH HEWITT
00:23:20SHOW FROM WASHINGTON, D.C..
00:23:22WATCH LIVE ALL THIS MONTH ON
00:23:24C-SPAN 2 ONLINE AT C-SPAN .ORG
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00:23:31MOBILE VIDEO APP. >> THINK YOU KNOW CIVICS, THE BRIGHTEST YOUNG CIVIC MINDS IN
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00:23:58ANALYSIS. CAMPAIGN, 2026 ONLY ON
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00:24:35STAKES COULDN'T BE HIGHER. EVERY SEAT IN THE UNITED STATES
00:24:39HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES IS UP FOR GRABS, ALONG WITH 33 U.S.
00:24:42SENATE RACES, AND THE OUTCOME OF
00:24:45BOTH COULD RESHAPE THE BALANCE OF POWER IN WASHINGTON. VOTERS
00:24:49WILL ALSO DECIDE. 36 GUBERNATORIAL CONTESTS, FROM THE
00:24:52CAMPAIGN TRAIL TO ELECTION
00:24:56NIGHT. FOLLOW CAMPAIGN 2026 ON THE C-SPAN NETWORKS. C-SPAN.
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00:25:06>> CHAMPIONSHIP ON OCTOBER 14th FOR THE NATION'S TOP SIX. SEVENTH AND EIGHTH GRADE
00:25:10STUDENTS WILL COMPETE TO WIN
00:25:13$100,000 PRIZE. WE ARE HERE WITH SOME. WE'RE HERE AT THE CAPITOL WITH SOME KIND VOLUNTEERS WHO
00:25:17HAVE TO HAVE SOME FUN WITH CIVICS WITH US, AND SEE HOW
00:25:20THEIR KNOWLEDGE STACKS UP. NAME
00:25:21AS MANY OF THE ORIGINAL 13
00:25:25COLONIES AS YOU CAN.
00:25:27>> MASSACHUSETTS VIRGINIA.
00:25:30>> GEORGIA. >> DELAWARE.
00:25:33>> NORTH CAROLINA.
00:25:37>> MARYLAND. >> [MUSIC] >> VERMONT >> I DON'T THINK VERMONT.
00:25:41>> BUT YOU ALL DID SUCH A GREAT JOB. SEE, IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT.
00:25:44MAKE SURE.
00:25:48>> I MEAN, YOU KNOW, RUSSIA.
00:25:50PUTIN IS HAS OFFERED JARED AND
00:25:53WITKOFF A DEAL, AN OIL DEAL THAT THEY'RE LOOKING INTO INVESTING
00:25:56IN. OR FRIENDS OF THEIRS ARE
00:25:59APPARENTLY. UM, AND, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, THE SAUDIS GAVE JARED $2 BILLION, I GUESS HE'S UP TO 6
00:26:03BILLION NOW THAT HE'S GOTTEN FROM THE MIDDLE EAST. MEANWHILE,
00:26:06THESE ATTACKS ON RIYADH, UH, YOU
00:26:10KNOW, THEY'VE THE CAPITAL CITY.
00:26:11I MEAN, THIS IS THE THIS AIRPORT
00:26:14IS THE KIND OF THE ENTRANCE TO THE CAPITAL OF SAUDI ARABIA.
00:26:18AND, UH, KING KHALID INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT ON
00:26:22SATURDAY. AND THE HOUTHIS ARE DRAWING BLOOD HERE. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THEY I MEAN, LITERALLY,
00:26:25THEY KILLED A BUNCH OF PEOPLE,
00:26:27BUT, UM, YOU'VE GOT THIS
00:26:30CONFERENCE THAT'S COMING UP. UM, THAT HAS GOT EVERYBODY
00:26:34FLIPPED UP, FLIPPED OUT. I MEAN,
00:26:36THIS IS, THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE,
00:26:38I THINK IT'S COMING UP THIS
00:26:41WEEK, OR PERHAPS IT'S NEXT
00:26:43WEEK. UM, BUT, UH, THE TIMING RIYADH HOSTS THE WORLD PETROLEUM
00:26:47CONGRESS. YEAH. THIS WEEK WITH
00:26:50CEOS FROM EXXONMOBIL, SHELL, TOTAL ENERGY AND BP EXPECTED
00:26:53FOLLOWED LATER THIS MONTH BY THE FUTURE INVESTMENT INITIATIVE.
00:26:56AND WALL STREET'S BILLIONAIRE FINANCIERS ORGANIZERS INSIST BOTH EVENTS ARE GOING TO
00:27:00CONTINUE, ACCORDING TO REUTERS.
00:27:02UH, THIS IS. BUT, YOU KNOW,
00:27:05THESE HOUTHI STRIKES ARE, UH,
00:27:09YOU KNOW, SAUDI ARABIA USED TO BE THOUGHT OF AS KIND OF A STABLE, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE
00:27:13ISLAND OF AN OASIS OF STABILITY
00:27:15IN THE MIDDLE EAST. NOT NOW. AND
00:27:18THE HOUTHIS ARE DOUBLING DOWN ON THEIR WARNINGS. THEY SAY THE
00:27:20WORST IS YET TO COME. UH, YOU KNOW, IF WE CONTINUE, IF THE
00:27:24SAUDIS CONTINUE THEIR ACTIONS AGAINST YEMEN, AND, OF COURSE,
00:27:26THE HOUTHIS NOW ARE, UH, HAVE
00:27:31THREATENING TO SHUT DOWN THE BAB
00:27:32EL MANDEB STRAIT, THROUGH WHICH
00:27:36ABOUT 10% OF GLOBAL MARITIME GOODS TRANSIT. SO THE CONCERN
00:27:40IS, YOU KNOW, TRUMP SAYS HE MAY
00:27:42COME TO THE RESCUE. HE MAY
00:27:44INVOLVE HIMSELF ON BEHALF OF SAUDI ARABIA. UM, NOT NOT
00:27:48UKRAINE. THEY DIDN'T GIVE MONEY TO HIS FAMILY, BUT THE SAUDIS
00:27:50DID. AND SO HE'S, HE'S THINKING ABOUT IT. AND IF HE DOES, WE'RE
00:27:53GOING TO GET A HELL OF A LOT DEEPER IN THE MIDDLE OF ANOTHER
00:27:57ONE OF THESE MIDDLE EASTERN
00:27:58WARS, ALL THANKS TO, YOU KNOW,
00:28:02BENJAMIN NETANYAHU FINALLY FINDING A PRESIDENT, AN AMERICAN PRESIDENT, STUPID ENOUGH.
00:28:05>> YOU'RE LISTENING TO THE THOM
00:28:10HARTMANN PROGRAM. CALL 2028089925. >> TRUMP SHOCKS >> [MUSIC]
00:28:14>> HIS OBSERVERS BY OR OBSERVERS BY MOCKING HIS OWN SUPPORTERS. I'LL TELL YOU ABOUT THAT. I'LL PICK UP YOUR CALLS AFTER THE
00:28:18BREAK. STAY WITH US.
00:28:20>> [MUSIC]
00:28:35>> TRUMP HANDS PUTIN A DIESEL
00:28:37WINDFALL. TARIFFS HAMMER. OHIO
00:28:39FACTORIES. TEXAS CENSORS.
00:28:41PROFESSORS. MEDICAID CUTS CLOSE. MATERNITY WARDS. VANCE INSULTS A
00:28:45BLACK CANDIDATE, AND TRUMP RAGES AT NORWAY. GOOD MORNING. THIS IS
00:28:49THE COMMONWEALTH REPORT. NEWS FOR THE PUBLIC, NOT THE
00:28:51POWERFUL. YOU CAN FOLLOW US AT
00:28:54COMMONWEALTH REPORT.NEWS. DID TRUMP JUST HAND PUTIN A GIFT?
00:28:57WHILE AMERICAN DRIVERS GET NOTHING, DONALD TRUMP JUST CUT A
00:29:00DEAL WITH VLADIMIR PUTIN. ON
00:29:02FRIDAY, HE ANNOUNCED RUSSIA WILL
00:29:04SHIP 300,000 TONS OF DIESEL
00:29:06RIGHT AWAY, 500,000 MORE IN
00:29:08NOVEMBER, THAN A MILLION THAN ANOTHER 3 MILLION AFTER THAT,
00:29:12HIS TREASURY DEPARTMENT EASED SANCTIONS ON RUSSIAN DIESEL INTO
00:29:15APRIL OF 2027. THIS COMES ONE
00:29:18MONTH AFTER TRUMP SIGNED A LAW MEANT TO CHOKE OFF THE MONEY.
00:29:21THE OIL MONEY THAT PAYS FOR PUTIN'S WAR. UKRAINE'S PRESIDENT
00:29:25ZELENSKY CALLED IT A GIFT TO PUTIN AND WARNED, QUOTE, RUSSIA
00:29:28WILL REPAY THE DIESEL WITH
00:29:30FURTHER TERROR AND PERFIDY. AND ENERGY EXPERTS SAY IT PROBABLY
00:29:34WON'T LOWER PRICES. MUCH DIESEL SITTING AT 628 A GALLON, DRIVEN
00:29:37UP BY TRUMP'S OWN WAR WITH IRAN.
00:29:42SO PUTIN GETS CASH FOR HIS WAR MACHINE. UKRAINE GETS MORE BOMBS, AND AMERICAN AND TRUCKERS
00:29:45AND FARMERS GET A PRESS RELEASE. OUR TRUMP'S TARIFFS CRUSHING THE
00:29:49VERY FACTORIES HE PROMISED TO
00:29:51SAVE. ASKED DOUG RUNDY. HE RUNS
00:29:54SHAPES UNLIMITED AND ALUMINUM PRODUCTS MANUFACTURER IN NORTH
00:29:57JACKSON, OHIO. TRUMP'S ALUMINUM
00:30:00TARIFFS CLIMBED FROM 10 TO 20 5% TO 50%, AND RANDY SAYS THEY'RE
00:30:03COSTING HIM, QUOTE, UPWARDS OF
00:30:064.5 TO $5 MILLION THIS YEAR ALONE, END QUOTE. SHIPPING
00:30:09SURCHARGES TIED TO THE IRAN WAR ARE AS HIGH AS $6,500 A
00:30:13CONTAINER. SO HE STOPPED HIRING,
00:30:14AND HE'S BUYING ROBOTS INSTEAD.
00:30:18OVER IN WARREN, COUNTERTOP MAKER SAM MILLER PAYS TARIFFS ON
00:30:22MATERIALS FROM ASIA AND CAN'T EXPAND INTO CANADA, WHERE TRADE TALKS COLLAPSED IN AUGUST.
00:30:26CANADA BUYS A THIRD OF EVERYTHING. OHIO EXPORTS. THE
00:30:29SUPREME COURT STRUCK DOWN MANY
00:30:30OF THESE TARIFFS. TRUMP PUT THEM RIGHT BACK. TARIFFS ARE SOLD AS
00:30:34A GIFT TO WORKING PEOPLE, BUT THEY'VE TURNED IT INTO A TAX ON
00:30:36THE FOLKS WHO ACTUALLY MAKE THINGS. WELL. TEXAS POLITICIANS
00:30:41NOW DECIDE WHAT EVERY PROFESSOR
00:30:42IS ALLOWED TO TEACH. THE ATLANTIC REPORTS THAT THAT
00:30:46STATE, THE STATE NOW CONTROLS WHAT PROFESSORS CAN TEACH UNDER
00:30:50A LAW WRITTEN BY FORMER REPUBLICAN STATE SENATOR BRANDON
00:30:53CREIGHTON, REGENTS. REGENTS
00:30:55PICKED BY GOVERNOR GREG ABBOTT, HOLD POWER OVER THE CURRICULUM.
00:30:59TEXAS A&M AND TEXAS TECH RESTRICTED TEACHING ABOUT RACE,
00:31:03GENDER, AND SEXUAL ORIENTATION. A&M SHUT DOWN ITS WOMEN'S AND
00:31:06GENDER STUDIES DEGREE. UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS REGENTS
00:31:10VOTED TO LIMIT WHAT THEY CALL, QUOTE, UNNECESSARY,
00:31:13CONTROVERSIAL SUBJECTS. ONE A&M
00:31:15PHILOSOPHY PROFESSOR SAID HE WASN'T ALLOWED TO TEACH PLATO.
00:31:19ANOTHER WAS FIRED AFTER A LESSON ON GENDER IDENTITY, AND SHE'S
00:31:22SUING A NEW STATE OFFICE NOW INVESTIGATES COMPLAINTS ABOUT
00:31:26PROFESSORS. YOU KNOW, A GOVERNMENT THAT PICKS WHICH
00:31:29IDEAS ARE LEGAL IN A CLASSROOM IS TRAINING, OBEDIENCE AND
00:31:33DEMOCRACY CAN'T SURVIVE ON
00:31:35THAT. HOW MANY MORE MATERNITY WARDS WILL CLOSE BEFORE
00:31:39REPUBLICANS ADMIT WHAT THEY DID? THE GUARDIAN REPORTS 52 MATERNITY WARDS HAVE CLOSED
00:31:42SINCE JULY OF LAST YEAR, WHEN TRUMP'S BIG, BEAUTIFUL BILL
00:31:45BECAME LAW. ANOTHER EIGHT HAVE ANNOUNCED THEY'RE CLOSING,
00:31:49ACCORDING TO THE GROUP PROTECT OUR CARE. THAT BILL CUT NEARLY
00:31:53$1 TRILLION FROM MEDICAID, AND MEDICAID PAYS FOR MORE THAN 40%
00:31:56OF BIRTHS IN AMERICA. HOSPITALS IN VIRGINIA AND RURAL GEORGIA
00:32:00POINTED TO THE COMING CUTS WHEN THEY SHUT DOWN THEIR UNITS FOR
00:32:02GOOD. THE MARCH OF DIMES SAYS 31 MORE RURAL HOSPITALS ARE AT
00:32:06RISK, AND IF THEY GO, 96 COUNTIES LOSE THEIR LAST PLACE
00:32:09TO DELIVER A BABY. SENATOR RON
00:32:12WYDEN WARNED THIS SUMMER, QUOTE, MATERNITY WARDS ACROSS AMERICA
00:32:16ARE SHUTTERING THEIR DOORS, AND THE WORST OF IT, INCLUDING WORK
00:32:19REQUIREMENTS, DOESN'T EVEN START UNTIL JANUARY. THEY TOOK
00:32:21HEALTH CARE FROM MOTHERS AND BABIES TO PAY FOR BILLIONAIRE
00:32:25TAX CUTS. REMEMBER THAT IN
00:32:26NOVEMBER, JD VANCE TELLS A BLACK
00:32:30SENATE CANDIDATE SHE DOESN'T BELONG IN AMERICA. AT A CAMPAIGN
00:32:33STOP IN LAKELAND, FLORIDA, ON OCTOBER 1st, THE VICE PRESIDENT
00:32:36WENT AFTER ANGIE NIXON, THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE FOR U.S.
00:32:40SENATE. THE FLORIDA PHOENIX REPORTS. HE SAID SHE DOESN'T BELONG IN AMERICA, AND C-SPAN
00:32:43VIDEO SHOWS HIM TELLING HER TO GET THE HELL OUT OF THE COUNTRY
00:32:47IF SHE'S A SOCIALIST. NIXON IS BLACK. HER FAMILY'S BEEN IN
00:32:50FLORIDA FOR GENERATIONS, SHE
00:32:53FIRED BACK FRIDAY, QUOTE, I DON'T NEED JD VANCE PERMISSION
00:32:56TO BELONG HERE. AND SHE POINTED OUT THAT THE SENATOR ADVANCES
00:32:59SIDE. ASHLEY MOODY WAS NEVER ELECTED. MOODY WAS APPOINTED IN
00:33:032025 TO MARCO RUBIO'S SEAT. NIXON CALLED THE ATTACK A
00:33:07DESPERATE DISTRACTION FROM RISING INSURANCE, RENT AND
00:33:10HEALTH CARE COSTS, TELLING BLACK AMERICANS TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY
00:33:13IS ONE OF THE OLDEST AND UGLIEST TRICKS IN OUR POLITICS. IT
00:33:17DESERVES AN ANSWER AT THE BALLOT
00:33:19BOX, TRUMP RAGES AT NORWAY AFTER THE NOBEL PRIZE GOES TO SOMEONE
00:33:23ELSE. THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE WENT
00:33:26FRIDAY TO NAVI PILLAY, AN THE 85
00:33:28YEAR OLD SOUTH AFRICAN JURIST
00:33:30WHO DEFENDED ANTI-APARTHEID
00:33:33ACTIVISTS, JUDGED THE RWANDA GENOCIDE TRIALS AND LATER RAN
00:33:37HUMAN RIGHTS FOR THE UN. DONALD TRUMP DIDN'T TAKE IT WELL. AT A
00:33:40RALLY IN SYRACUSE, NEW YORK, HE CALLED HER A MYSTERY PERSON AND
00:33:44WARNED THAT WE WILL NOT FORGET NORWAY. THEN HE POSTED THAT HE
00:33:47SHOULD HAVE WON EIGHT NOBEL PRIZES, ONE FOR EACH WAR. HE
00:33:50CLAIMS HE SETTLED AND CALLED THE
00:33:52DECISION AN INDELIBLE STAIN ON
00:33:55NORWAY. SMALL PROBLEM. NORWAY'S GOVERNMENT GOVERNMENT DOESN'T
00:33:58PICK THE WINNER. AN INDEPENDENT COMMITTEE DOES. PILL GOT THE
00:34:02NEWS THAT A CONFERENCE IN NUREMBERG AND TOLD THE CHEERING ROOM, IF YOU CLAP A LITTLE BIT
00:34:05MORE, I MAY SHARE THIS PRIZE
00:34:06WITH TRUMP, A MAN WHO THREATENS A COUNTRY OVER A TROPHY HAS TOLD
00:34:10YOU EVERYTHING ABOUT WHY HE DIDN'T GET IT, AND THAT'S THE
00:34:14WAY IT IS TODAY. MONDAY, OCTOBER
00:34:1612th, 2026. I'M THOM HARTMANN.
00:34:38>> C-SPAN 2, WE'RE BRINGING YOU LIVE TALK RADIO SIMULCAST WITH
00:34:42VOICES FROM ACROSS THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM. THIS WEEK, PROGRESSIVE COMMENTATOR THOM HARTMANN HOSTS
00:34:46THE THOM HARTMANN PROGRAM FROM PORTLAND, OREGON, AT NOON
00:34:49EASTERN MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, AND THEN AT 3 P.M. EASTERN
00:34:52MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY. CONSERVATIVE RADIO HOST HUGH
00:34:55HEWITT HOSTS THE HUGH HEWITT SHOW FROM WASHINGTON, D.C..
00:34:58WATCH LIVE ALL THIS MONTH ON
00:35:00C-SPAN 2, ONLINE AT C-SPAN .ORG OR ON C-SPAN. NOW, OUR FREE
00:35:03MOBILE VIDEO APP.
00:35:06>> LATER TODAY, UTAHS REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR SPENCER COX SITS DOWN
00:35:10FOR A CONVERSATION WITH FORMER
00:35:12OBAMA SENIOR ADVISER DAVID
00:35:15AXELROD. THE DISCUSSION, WHICH WILL PROMOTE CIVIL DISAGREEMENT, WILL FOCUS ON THE POLITICAL
00:35:19CULTURE IN POST-TRUMP AMERICA.
00:35:22WATCH LIVE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO AT 6:30 P.M. EASTERN
00:35:25ON C-SPAN C-SPAN NOW. OUR FREE
00:35:28MOBILE APP, OR ONLINE AT
00:35:33C-SPAN.ORG.
00:35:36>> [MUSIC]
00:35:39>> AS MIKE SAID BEFORE, I HAPPEN TO LISTEN TO HIM. HE WAS ON
00:35:43C-SPAN ONE. THAT'S A BIG
00:35:46UPGRADE, RIGHT?
00:35:49>> C-SPAN 2 HAS ALSO DOCUMENTED
00:35:53NEARLY 24,000 ROLL CALL VOTES,
00:35:55PROVIDING THE TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY OUR DEMOCRACY NEEDS TO THRIVE.
00:35:59>> THANKS TO C-SPAN 2, THIS
00:36:04PUBLIC SERVICE ALLOWS OUR CONSTITUENTS TO SEE THE SWEARING
00:36:06IN OF NEWLY ELECTED MEMBERS
00:36:10WATCHING ALL NIGHT.
00:36:12>> 16 WHEN TRUMP MADE THIS
00:36:14COMMENT, HE WAS CAMPAIGNING IN IOWA, AND HE SAID, I COULD STAND
00:36:18IN THE MIDDLE OF FIFTH AVENUE AND SHOOT SOMEBODY. I WOULDN'T
00:36:20LOSE ANY VOTERS. OKAY. AND, YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY WHAT HE WAS
00:36:24SAYING WAS THAT HE'S JUST SO
00:36:27POPULAR, OR THAT HIS FOLLOWERS
00:36:32ARE SO UNCRITICAL OR UNTHINKING
00:36:35OR LOW MORALS THAT, YOU KNOW,
00:36:40THAT THEY WOULD ELECT A MURDERER. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT
00:36:43LOOKS LIKE THEY'VE ELECTED A
00:36:46RAPIST. CERTAINLY, TWO JURIES
00:36:49FOUND THAT IN NEW YORK. AND, UH,
00:36:50YOU KNOW, NOW WE'VE GOT, UM,
00:36:53THE, UH, TESTIMONY OF MULTIPLE
00:36:56WOMEN THAT HE HAS ASSAULTED THEM. BUT THIS IS WHAT HE SAID
00:36:59IN CLARKSVILLE, TENNESSEE, ON SATURDAY. THIS IS JUST
00:37:02ASTONISHING. HE SAID, IT'S AMAZING WHEN YOU STAND UP HERE.
00:37:05IT'S JUST LIKE, OH, THE LOVE. I
00:37:08COULD SAY THE STUPIDEST THINGS.
00:37:10AND YOU'D CLAP. IT'S TRUE.
00:37:18YEAH. THAT'S THE PROBLEM SO WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY, TERRY? IN VENTURA, CALIFORNIA.
00:37:21HEY, TERRY. WHAT'S UP
00:37:26>> HAVE TO MAKE A REFERENCE. YOU JUST REFERRED TO GREG PALAST.
00:37:28UH, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, PROP 39.
00:37:32THIS IS MY TOPIC, BUT YOU JUST
00:37:34SPOKE NOT SEE THE OPPOSITION TO
00:37:42PROP, UH AND IT WILL REALLY INSTITUTE THE SAVE ACT OVER
00:37:46CALIFORNIA VOTERS BY A REFERENDUM. I'M VERY WORRIED
00:37:49ABOUT IT, REALLY. I JUST DON'T,
00:37:53I DON'T YEAH. >> 39 YOU KNOW WHAT? REQUIRING REQUIRING THE JUMP THROUGH ALL
00:37:56KINDS OF HOOPS IN ORDER TO VOTE.
00:38:00>> APPROVE VOTER ID, RIGHT,
00:38:01RIGHT. WE'LL PUT ON THE BUT YOU
00:38:04JUST MADE A REFERENCE TO IT ONE
00:38:06MINUTE AGO BUT MY TOPIC IS THIS,
00:38:09UH, TWO OF THEIR PAST SPEAKERS
00:38:10OF THE HOUSE MADE REFERENCES TO,
00:38:15UM, UH, TO TRUMP. ONE SAID, ALL
00:38:19HIGHWAYS LEAD TO MOSCOW. AND THAT WAS THE DEMOCRAT ONE. AND
00:38:22THE PREVIOUS REPUBLICAN, MCCARTHY SAID, IF ANYBODY IS ON
00:38:25PUTIN'S ONE OF THOSE WOULD BE,
00:38:30UH, TRUMP. >> YEAH. AND THE OTHER WAS DANA ROGER WICKER. YEAH, YEAH, THAT WAS KEVIN MCCARTHY WHO SAID
00:38:34THAT.
00:38:36>> BUT MY TOPIC IS THIS, WHO OR
00:38:38WHAT WOULD PLANT THE IDEA IN
00:38:41TRUMP'S BRAIN ABOUT THE
00:38:44RESOURCE OF POTASH? I WAS
00:38:46WATCHING CANADIAN NEWS, AND JUST
00:38:49OUT OF THE BLUE, UH, TRUMP MADE
00:38:52REFERENCE. HE WANTS TO IMPORT
00:38:54BELARUSIAN POTASH GETTING IT
00:38:59FROM SASKATCHEWAN. AND HE PUT
00:39:01ZERO TARIFFS ON THAT BECAUSE
00:39:04IT'S A VITAL, UH, IT'S, IT'S
00:39:06A VITAL RESOURCE TO AGRICULTURE. >> BUT WHO FERTILIZER.
00:39:09>> WOULD POSSIBLY TURN HIS TURN
00:39:11HIS THOUGHTS TOWARDS LESHCHENKO
00:39:15OF BELARUS. ITS CRITICS ARE CALLING IT BLOODY.
00:39:18>> POTASH. LUKASHENKO WORKS FOR PUTIN. BELARUS IS KIND OF A
00:39:22WHOLLY OWNED SUBSIDIARY OF
00:39:24RUSSIA. SO, YOU KNOW, EVERY TWO
00:39:27WEEKS, EVER SINCE DONALD TRUMP GOT INAUGURATED, HE'S GOT HE'S
00:39:30HAD THESE, YOU KNOW, HOUR TO TWO HOUR LONG PHONE CONVERSATIONS
00:39:33WITH PUTIN. I THINK HE'S GETTING
00:39:36INSTRUCTIONS. I THINK I THINK PUTIN'S SUGGESTED TO HIM, HEY,
00:39:40WHY DON'T YOU PUT A, YOU KNOW, A HEROIN ADDICT, LAWYER IN CHARGE OF YOUR NATION'S HEALTH?
00:39:43UH, YOU KNOW, WHY DON'T YOU, WHY DON'T YOU PUT A FOSSIL FUEL
00:39:47LOBBYIST IN CHARGE OF YOUR ENERGY DEPARTMENT? YOU KNOW, WHY DON'T WHY DON'T YOU PUT A
00:39:50PLUMBER IN CHARGE OF YOUR DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY?
00:39:54YOU KNOW, MARKWAYNE MULLIN WAS A PLUMBER. RIGHT? NOW, HE'S
00:39:57RUNNING. OUR POLICE AGENCIES HAD NO EXPERIENCE AT ALL IN THAT.
00:40:00BUT IN THE WRESTLING. GO AHEAD.
00:40:03I'M SORRY. >> IN THE END TIME, THOUGH, A
00:40:07BELARUS IS ALMOST ALL OF THEIR POTASH IS GOING TO CHINA, AND THEY DON'T HAVE ANY DESPAIR
00:40:10ANYWAY. SO WHO WOULD POSSIBLY THINK OF WE'RE GOING TO BUY
00:40:14FROM, UH, THE SHINKO SO
00:40:20OFFENSIVE. OKAY. >> YEAH, YEAH, I'M WITH YOU. WELL, IT'S JUST MORE EVIDENCE
00:40:23THAT, YOU KNOW, TRUMP, I, WHAT I
00:40:25SEE HAPPENING AND I, AND I
00:40:28DON'T THINK THIS IS ANY KIND OF CONSPIRACY THEORY BECAUSE THERE IS SO MUCH EVIDENCE FOR THIS, IS
00:40:32THAT TRUMP IS ALIGNING US AWAY
00:40:37FROM NATO AND OTHER DEMOCRATIC NATIONS WHO HE REGULARLY TRASH TALKS. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT
00:40:41WHAT HE DID TO SOUTH KOREA RECENTLY. FOR EXAMPLE. AND
00:40:45TOWARD THE AUTOCRATIC COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD THAT HE ADMIRES.
00:40:49AND HE WANTS AMERICA TO BE LIKE, WHICH IS SPECIFICALLY RUSSIA,
00:40:52CHINA, NORTH KOREA. UM, YOU KNOW, HE, I MEAN, HE PUT A
00:40:56STATUE OF HIMSELF, A 14 FOOT GOLD STATUE OF HIMSELF ON ONE OF
00:40:59HIS LITTLE SHABBY LITTLE GOLF
00:41:01MOTELS, YOU KNOW, WITH HIS ARM
00:41:04IN A VIRTUALLY IDENTICAL TO THE ONE THAT KIM JONG UN HAS OF
00:41:06HIMSELF IN, IN, UH, PYONGYANG, I
00:41:10THINK, IS THE CAPITAL CITY OF NORTH KOREA. SO, YEAH, I,
00:41:14THAT'S THE ONLY SOLUTION OR ANSWER I CAN COME UP WITH. I
00:41:18DON'T GET IT. TERRY. THANK YOU FOR THE CALL. >> I JUST WONDER WHAT NORTH
00:41:22DAKOTA FARMERS THINK ABOUT ANY, UH, THREAT TO THEIR SOURCE OF POTASH. OKAY.
00:41:26>> YEAH, THEY HAVE TO BE A LITTLE CONCERNED. THEY HAVE TO BE A LITTLE CONCERNED. THANK
00:41:29YOU. TERRY. MATTHEW IN MADISON, WISCONSIN. HEY, MATTHEW, THANKS
00:41:33FOR LISTENING. CIVIC MEDIA. >> WHAT'S UP?
00:41:36>> HEY, TOM. THANKS FOR WHAT YOU DO. UM, I WANTED TO BRING UP
00:41:39THIS IDEA OF, AND THE THREAT
00:41:46FROM THESE CHRISTIAN WHITE
00:41:48SUPREMACIST MILITIA GROUPS ALL
00:41:50ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT MAKES UP
00:41:53THE GUNS THAT THESE REPUBLICANS REFER TO WHEN THEY THREATEN
00:41:56CIVIL WAR. AND THEY TALK SO BRAZENLY. AND I WANTED TO ASK
00:41:59YOU WHAT YOU THOUGHT OF WHY, AND
00:42:02IF WE COULD SPREAD THE IDEA OF
00:42:06FORMING OUR OWN CENTRIST OR
00:42:08DEMOCRATIC OR A COALITION BASED
00:42:13OR JUST FAR LEFT OR SEPARATE LITTLE GROUPS, BUT THE IDEA OF
00:42:16OUR OWN MILITIA GROUPS TO
00:42:18CHALLENGE THAT, NOT PHYSICALLY,
00:42:21NOT IN A WAR, BUT TO, TO BE A
00:42:24BOLSTER OR A WALL TO ACT THE WAY
00:42:30THEY DO. LIKE BANNON IS ALWAYS TALKING THE WAY HE DOES, BECAUSE
00:42:33HE KNOWS WE DON'T HAVE OUR OWN
00:42:35GROUPS, NOT NEARLY IN THE NUMBERS. AND THERE'S A LOT OF
00:42:39POSITIVES TO MILITIA CULTURE.
00:42:40LIKE, I THINK A LOT OF LIBERAL
00:42:43YOUNG MEN ESPECIALLY, COULD USE SOMETHING LIKE THAT. LIKE, WHAT
00:42:45ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT?
00:42:48>> UM, IN, IN EVERY OR VIRTUALLY
00:42:51EVERY STATE IN THE UNION,
00:42:54PRIVATE MILITIAS ARE OUTLAWED BY STATE LAW. THERE ARE SEVERAL
00:42:58STATES WHERE THEY'RE OUTLAWED IN THEIR CONSTITUTIONS. YEAH, IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN A COUPLE
00:43:01OF YEARS SINCE I'VE WRITTEN ABOUT THIS, BUT I ACTUALLY DID THE RESEARCH ON THIS. AND IT'S
00:43:05TRUE, THE LAWS ARE GENERALLY NOT
00:43:08ENFORCED. BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE AGAINST THE LAW. AND THESE LAWS WERE PASSED, BY THE
00:43:12WAY, AFTER THE CIVIL WAR. AND THE, THE REASON WHY THESE LAWS
00:43:15WERE PASSED, YOU KNOW, IN PART
00:43:18WAS TO, WAS TO GO AFTER THE
00:43:20KLAN. BUT, UM, I WOULD NOT WANT
00:43:24TO ENCOURAGE ANYBODY TO, UH, TO
00:43:28BE DOING ANYTHING THAT COULD ULTIMATELY LEAD TO ANYTHING THAT
00:43:31RESEMBLES A CIVIL WAR. CIVIL WARS ARE THE MOST BRUTAL KIND OF
00:43:34WARS. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT WHAT WE WANT HERE IN THE
00:43:38UNITED STATES, MATTHEW, BUT THANKS FOR THE CALL.
00:43:40>> SUPPOSEDLY, 200 OR MORE ON THE RIGHT, THOUGH CURRENTLY. >> I, YOU KNOW, I KNOW, AND, YOU
00:43:44KNOW, I, I, IN MY MIND, WHAT
00:43:47THEY'RE DOING IS ESSENTIALLY MASTURBATION, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY RUN AROUND WITH THEIR GUNS,
00:43:51YOU KNOW, THEIR LITTLE PHALLIC
00:43:53SYMBOLS AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW,
00:43:55THREATEN PEOPLE AND, AND, UH, TRY TO BEHAVE LIKE THE REAL MEN,
00:43:58UH, YOU KNOW, REAL MEN DON'T DO THAT KIND OF STUFF. MATTHEW.
00:44:01THANK YOU FOR THE CALL. TONY. IN BUFFALO, NEW YORK. HEY, TONY.
00:44:04WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY?
00:44:06>> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, LET'S
00:44:08COMPARE BIDEN, AT THE BEGINNING
00:44:12OF THE WAR THAT RUSSIA STARTED,
00:44:15TOOK, DECIDED VISIT KYIV. DO YOU
00:44:19REMEMBER HOW HE GOT THERE HE TOOK A TRAIN. HE TOOK THE TRAIN
00:44:23DURING THE HOLIDAYS TO VISIT
00:44:25WITH ZELENSKY TRUMP SAID AS HE
00:44:30WAS ON THE BOTTOM OF THE STEPS
00:44:34IT IS THAT ZELENSKY SHOULD BE
00:44:36BOOTED OUT OF OFFICE BECAUSE HE
00:44:39HAS BOTCHED EFFORTS TO SET THE
00:44:45TO OF UKRAINIAN.
00:44:51>> ALL HE HAS TO DO IS JUST SURRENDER AND GIVE UKRAINE TO,
00:44:53TO PUTIN. AND THE WAR STOPS,
00:44:56RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT TRUMP IS BASICALLY SAYING, WHICH IS INSANE.
00:45:00>> SOMETHING TO POINT OUT.
00:45:02SOMETHING ELSE LINDSEY GRAHAM.
00:45:04ACCORDING TO TRUMP AT ONE TIME,
00:45:06WAS HIS BEST FRIEND WASN'T
00:45:11LINDSEY GRAHAM HIS BEST FRIEND.
00:45:12WELL, THE DAY HE DIED AFTER HE
00:45:16DIED, BEFORE HE DIED, HE WAS IN
00:45:18KYIV TRYING TO WORK WITH THE
00:45:21UKRAINIAN GOVERNMENT TOO WELL,
00:45:25DID IT? NO, BECAUSE THEY PASSED
00:45:28THE BILL IN HIS HONOR, 86
00:45:31SENATORS VOTED FOR THAT HE
00:45:36VIOLATED THE BILL ON ON FRIDAY
00:45:44THE HELL WITH LINDSEY GRAHAM.
00:45:46HE'S GONE. WHO CARES? TOM.
00:45:53HE'S HERE TO HELP HIMSELF. AND
00:45:59>> AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, UH, APPARENTLY, PUTIN HAS BEEN
00:46:03DANGLING ALL KINDS OF BUSINESS
00:46:05DEALS WITH WITKOFF AND KUSHNER
00:46:09AND TRUMP. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE PROBABLY STILL TALKING
00:46:12ABOUT TRUMP TOWER, MOSCOW. IT'S INCREDIBLE.
00:46:16>> [MUSIC] >> THE, THE, THE CORRUPTION. AND
00:46:18JUST FUNDAMENTAL
00:46:22ANTI-AMERICANISM OF THIS ADMINISTRATION IS BREATHTAKING.
00:46:24IT'S 45 MINUTES PAST THE HOUR.
00:46:27>> YOU'RE LISTENING TO THOM HARTMANN. VISIT THOM
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00:46:38FOLKS
00:46:43>> [MUSIC] [MUSIC]
00:46:54>> AND WELCOME BACK, ERIC IN LONG BEACH, CALIFORNIA. HEY,
00:46:56ERIC, WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY?
00:47:00>> HEY, I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, ABOUT
00:47:03COLUMBUS. I HEARD YOU MENTION COLUMBUS IN THE BEGINNING. YEAH.
00:47:07AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE OVERALL, UM, TEACHING IS
00:47:11COLUMBUS WAS LOST AND HE
00:47:12STUMBLED, BUMBLED AMERICAS. BUT
00:47:16THAT'S NOT TRUE. HE LEARNED ABOUT THE AMERICAS WHEN HE WAS
00:47:20PART OF THE NAVIGATIONAL SCHOOLS
00:47:23UNDER THE MOORISH EMPIRE. AND AS YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE, THE
00:47:27MOORS RULED IBERIAN PENINSULA
00:47:29FOR 781 YEARS, 711 A.D. TO 1492
00:47:34WHEN THE MOORISH SULTANS SURRENDERED TO ISABELLA AND
00:47:38FERDINAND, WHICH IS NOW TODAY CALLED SPAIN. AND A LOT OF THOSE
00:47:42MOORS CONVERTED FROM ISLAM TO
00:47:48CHRISTIANITY, AND KAINE, AND
00:47:51ACTUALLY COLUMBUS SHIPS FROM
00:47:54SPAIN TO THE AMERICAS. HOWEVER, THE OTHER PART IS, MOST OF THE
00:47:57MOORS WERE RECLASSIFIED AS, WHICH IS. EVERYBODY KNOW SPANISH
00:48:01FOR BLACK. SO COLUMBUS DIDN'T
00:48:04JUST. HAPPENSTANCE, JUST STUMBLED OVER HERE. HE KNEW
00:48:07WHERE HE WAS GOING BECAUSE THE
00:48:09MOORS HAD ALWAYS BEEN BACK AND
00:48:13FORTH BETWEEN, UM, THE IBERIAN PENINSULA AND THE AMERICAS, BACK
00:48:17TO 1311, WITH ABUBAKARI. SO.
00:48:21>> FASCINATING. >> THAT'S JUST A PART OF THE
00:48:23HISTORY THAT'S NOT REALLY TALKED ABOUT. >> YEAH, YEAH. ERIC. THANK YOU.
00:48:27I, YOU KNOW, I'LL HAVE TO DO SOME DIGGING INTO THAT. I WAS UNAWARE OF THAT, TOO. THANK YOU
00:48:30VERY MUCH, DAVE. AND FEDERAL WAY WASHINGTON. HEY, DAVE, WHAT'S ON
00:48:33YOUR MIND
00:48:35>> TOO MUCH. TOM. DOES TRUMP-PUTIN CONNECTION? LOOK, UM, YOU KNOW HOW YOU'VE ALWAYS
00:48:39TALKED ABOUT HOBBES AND LOCKE,
00:48:42RIGHT? AND THEIR DEBATES AND,
00:48:44UM, THE, UH WHEN BENEDICT ARNOLD
00:48:49GAVE UP ON DEMOCRACY AND WENT
00:48:51BACK TO THE KING, IT WAS JUST A FANCIFUL EXPERIMENT THAT HE WAS
00:48:55TIRED OF SEEING PEOPLE DIE. AND
00:48:58HE HIMSELF, YOU KNOW, YOU TALKED
00:48:59ABOUT HIS OWN PERSONAL INJURIES.
00:49:03OKAY. DEMOCRACY WAS JUST FANCIFUL. IT WAS EXPERIMENTAL, AND PEOPLE'S LIVES WEREN'T
00:49:06REALLY, UM, NECESSARY TO RISK IN
00:49:10HIS MIND, TRUMP AND MAGA. IT'S
00:49:12DIFFERENT NOW. DEMOCRACY IS
00:49:15OBSOLETE. IT IS SAID THE REASON
00:49:20WHY PRESIDENT OBAMA, THERE'S ONLY REALLY ONE REASON HE'S GOING TO GO DOWN IN HISTORY AS A
00:49:23GREAT PRESIDENT OBAMA, BECAUSE
00:49:25HE ASKED WHY, LIKE, A LOT OF IT
00:49:30WAS ECONOMIC BASED ON MONEY, RIGHT? HE ASKED, WHY ARE WE IN
00:49:34THESE ENDLESS WARS? WHY, WHY, WHY, WHY, WHY TRUMP AND MAGA?
00:49:36THEY DON'T ASK WHY. ALL THEY
00:49:39ASK IS, DOES THIS PROFIT THE FÜHRER? DOES THIS PROFIT THE LEADER? DOES THIS PROFIT, DEAR
00:49:44LEADER. AND YOU'RE RIGHT. BY BY COMPARING HIM TO KIM JONG UN. I
00:49:48THINK THAT'S THE MOST SIMILAR REGIME. AND TO, TO COMPARE TRUMP
00:49:51AND MAGA TO. AND THEY'RE NOT
00:49:53STUPID, RIGHT? MAGA, I'VE NOTICED THEY'RE CHANGING THEIR,
00:49:56UM, ON THESE DEBATE SHOWS. THEY'RE CHANGING. LIKE, UH, THE
00:50:00OTHER DAY, I JUST HEARD CAROLINE SUNSHINE, SHE DID IT. AND IT WAS
00:50:03REALLY, REALLY SMART. SHE, SHE TOLD THE LIBERAL, WAIT A MINUTE. IF TRUMP HAS UNLIMITED POWER,
00:50:07WHY DOES THE SUPREME COURT GO
00:50:09AGAINST HIM? TAKE LITTLE. I'M
00:50:12TELLING YOU, MAGA IS, UM, A
00:50:14MOVEMENT THAT THAT VLADIMIR
00:50:19EASILY EXPLOIT. AND FRANKLY. >> AND HAS BEEN SINCE, SINCE
00:50:222015. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THE
00:50:23MUELLER INVESTIGATION FOUND
00:50:26MULTIPLE INSTANCES OF RUSSIA HELPING OUT TRUMP AND TEN
00:50:29SPECIFIC YOU KNOW, HE MADE TEN
00:50:32SPECIFIC CHARGES AGAINST DONALD
00:50:34TRUMP HIMSELF FOR, YOU KNOW,
00:50:38FELONY OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE, TRYING TO SHUT DOWN HIS OWN INVESTIGATION. SO, YEAH, I GET IT, DAVE, I GOTTA RUN. BUT
00:50:41THANKS FOR THE CALL. UH, APPRECIATE IT. TEN MINUTES
00:50:44BEFORE THE HOUR. I'LL BE BACK WITH YOU IN 60s
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00:52:27>> GREETINGS, TOM I DON'T KNOW.
00:52:32I I'M NOT REALLY SATISFIED. UM,
00:52:37I CALLED IN AROUND ALMOST 9:00,
00:52:41AND, YOU KNOW, I SAID I WANTED
00:52:43TO TALK ABOUT THIS, AND THEN,
00:52:45UM, MATEO, WHO'S ALWAYS BEEN
00:52:48REALLY NICE, HE SAID, YOU KNOW,
00:52:51THE TYPICAL TOPIC FOR YOU, NOT
00:52:53VERBATIM, BUT, YOU KNOW, DOES HE
00:52:56SAY THAT TO THE MEN THAT CALL ABOUT WAR ALL THE TIME?
00:53:00>> I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA. SUSIE. I'M SORRY. YOU'RE YOU'RE
00:53:04UNHAPPY WITH YOUR INTERACTION WITH MATEO, RON AND BERRIEN SPRINGS, MICHIGAN. HEY, RON,
00:53:07WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY?
00:53:09>> HI FARMS AROUND THE AREA
00:53:13WHERE I LIVE, AND IT'S GETTING LATE IN THE SEASON, AND I HAVE
00:53:17NOT SEEN ANY FARMER CUT DOWN
00:53:19THEIR A LITTLE CURIOUS, BUT, UH,
00:53:27ARE SO HIGH THAT THEY DON'T WANT
00:53:29TO HARVEST. AND THEN THE, UH,
00:53:31COMMODITY PRICES, I UNDERSTAND, ARE PRETTY LOW. SO I'M JUST WONDERING IF THEY'RE GOING TO
00:53:35LET IT ROT IN THE FIELD OF CORN, BECAUSE I'VE NEVER SEEN SO MUCH
00:53:39CORN STANDING UP IN THE FIELD.
00:53:43UNHARVESTED. THIS LATE IN THE SEASON. >> YEAH. HUH. I, YOU KNOW, NOT,
00:53:47NOT LIVING RURALLY NOT, YOU
00:53:51KNOW, I DON'T KNOW. I, I'VE, I'VE NEVER LIVED ON A FARM, SO
00:53:54I JUST DON'T KNOW. BUT THAT
00:53:56WOULD MAKE SENSE. UM, YOU MIGHT
00:53:59WANT TO ASK SOME FARMERS, RON,
00:54:01AND THEN GIVE US A CALL.
00:54:07>> DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO TALK TO HIM, BUT I. YEAH, IT'S A
00:54:09GOOD ARE TRUMP SUPPORTERS, AND.
00:54:15WELL, I JUST WONDER IF YOU GET A STRAIGHT ANSWER. >> YOU DON'T HAVE TO OFFEND THEM. YOU CAN JUST SAY, YOU
00:54:19KNOW, ARE YOU HOW COME YOU'RE NOT HARVESTING YOUR CORN? YOU
00:54:22KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S LIKE, IT'S,
00:54:25UH, YEAH, IT'S, THAT'S IT. I, I THOUGHT THE COMMODITY PRICES
00:54:29WERE FAIRLY HIGH, ACTUALLY, THAT THEY WERE TRACKING DIESEL
00:54:32PRICES, BUT, UM, GEEZ, I JUST
00:54:34DON'T KNOW. RON. I'M SORRY. IT'S MAYBE SOMEBODY WILL CALL
00:54:38IN, YOU KNOW, FROM ONE OF THE FARM STATES WHO ACTUALLY DOES
00:54:40KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. SO,
00:54:42RON, THANKS FOR THE CALL. YEAH. ALEX IN EDISON, NEW JERSEY. HEY,
00:54:46ALEX, WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY?
00:54:48>> HELLO, TOM. I'M A LITTLE
00:54:51TICKED OFF HERE. OKAY UM, WHAT
00:54:52REALLY GRINDS MY GEARS IS THE,
00:54:56UH, THE TALARICO PAXTON
00:54:57SITUATION WHERE PAXTON PUT OUT A
00:55:03THAT TALARICO WENT TO A MENTAL HEALTH INSTITUTION. >> I DON'T THINK PAXTON DID.
00:55:06DID. PAXTON. PAXTON DIDN'T PUT OUT THAT AD. THAT WAS A BUNCH OF
00:55:09RIGHT WING INFLUENCERS AND, AND RADIO HOSTS, WASN'T IT?
00:55:13>> WELL, WELL, THE FACT THAT IT WAS DONE IS OUTRAGEOUS ENOUGH.
00:55:16BUT WHAT IT DOES IS IT THE
00:55:21MORAL, I DON'T KNOW, STIGMA
00:55:25AGAINST PEOPLE WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES. AND IT DISCOURAGES PEOPLE FROM SEEKING
00:55:28MENTAL HEALTH. ALSO, SHOUT OUT
00:55:30TO MY FRIEND ANDREW AND I'LL TAKE YOUR RESPONSE OFFLINE. THANKS, BUDDY.
00:55:34>> ALL RIGHT. THANKS A LOT, ALEX. GOOD TO HEAR FROM YOU. UM,
00:55:38LET'S SEE. UH, GEORGE IN CRIPPLE CREEK, VIRGINIA. HEY,
00:55:41GEORGE, WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY?
00:55:43>> HEY, TOM. DID YOU SEE THAT?
00:55:45UH, NATO COMMANDER? I THINK
00:55:48IT'S U.S. GENERAL KEN CAMBRIDGE
00:55:50SAID THAT IF RUSSIA WAS STUPID ENOUGH TO ATTACK NATO, NATO
00:55:54WOULD HIT BACK WITH EVERYTHING IN ITS ARSENAL. JUST DEVASTATE
00:55:58RUSSIA. AND I'M AFRAID IF THAT HAPPENED, PRESIDENT TRUMP WOULD
00:56:01FIGURE OUT SOME EXCUSE TO, UH
00:56:05NOT SUPPORT ARTICLE FIVE. YEAH. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW,
00:56:07HE'S THREATENING TO CUT OFF ALL
00:56:10INTELLIGENCE AND FINANCIAL SUPPORT TO UKRAINE IF UKRAINE
00:56:14DOESN'T STOP HITTING RUSSIAN
00:56:16OIL REFINERIES, ET CETERA.. SO HE'S NOT ONLY NOT SUPPORTING
00:56:20UKRAINE, HE'S SUPPORTING PUTIN. >> WELL, AND APPARENTLY THERE
00:56:24WAS A PIECE IN THE FINANCIAL TIMES LAST NIGHT THAT I WAS
00:56:27READING, THAT APPARENTLY,
00:56:29THERE'S A MEETING COMING UP
00:56:32ABOUT NATO, THAT THE BALTIC
00:56:34STATES WERE NOT INVITED TO AND.
00:56:38>> NATO MEMBERS, I CAN'T UNDERSTAND THAT.
00:56:40>> YEAH. IT IT THE IMPLICATION
00:56:45OF THE ARTICLE, OR AT LEAST THE IMPLICATION I TOOK FROM IT, WAS
00:56:48THAT PUTIN OR IS THAT TRUMP IS
00:56:50MOVING STEP BY STEP TOWARD
00:56:52BASICALLY DISENGAGING FROM NATO,
00:56:54AND ALSO THAT THE, UH, THE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, THE SUPREME
00:56:58ALLIED COMMANDER, YOU KNOW, THE,
00:57:01UH, THE, UH, I FORGET WHO IT IS AND WHAT HIS ROLE IS. UM, SORRY, I SHOULD HAVE THE ARTICLE IN
00:57:05FRONT OF ME RIGHT NOW. UM, THAT
00:57:09TRUMP IS TALKING ABOUT PULLING HIM OUT AND HAVING A
00:57:12NON-AMERICAN BE THE, BASICALLY THE LEADER OF THE MILITARY
00:57:15LEADER OF NATO. YEAH. AND IF THAT HAPPENS, THAT WOULD PROVIDE
00:57:19TRUMP WITH THE BASIS TO SAY, OKAY, NATO, THAT'S YOUR FIGHT,
00:57:22NOT OURS. AND THAT'S. >> EXACTLY RIGHT. >> THAT'S WHAT THIS MEETING IS ALL ABOUT.
00:57:25>> YOU'VE GOT A NON-U.S. COMMANDER. SO WE'RE OUT OF HERE.
00:57:29>> YEAH, YEAH. AND THAT'S, THAT'S A NIGHTMARE SCENARIO. I MEAN, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT PUTIN
00:57:33WANTS, WHICH IS PROBABLY WHY TRUMP, HE'S. >> BEEN TRYING TO GET THAT HAPPEN FOR YEARS.
00:57:37>> RIGHT. SO THE QUESTION IS,
00:57:37IS, IS TRUMP DOING WHAT PUTIN
00:57:41WANTS EVERY SINGLE TIME FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS? IS TRUMP DOING WHAT PUTIN WANTS? BECAUSE PUTIN
00:57:45OWNS HIM? BECAUSE PUTIN'S BLACKMAILING HIM, BECAUSE
00:57:47PUTIN'S PAYING HIM, BECAUSE HE WANTS TO BECOME LIKE.
00:57:50>> PUTIN'S BLACKMAILING HIM. >> I THINK IT'S BECAUSE HE
00:57:53WANTS TO TURN AMERICA AWAY FROM DEMOCRACY. AND, YOU KNOW, JUST
00:57:57LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHEN PUTIN CAME IN, RUSSIA WAS A DEMOCRACY, AND HE DESTROYED THAT. I THINK TRUMP
00:58:01WANTS TO DO THE SAME THING HERE IN AMERICA, MAKE HIS FAMILY
00:58:04RICH, AND JUST RULE THE COUNTRY
00:58:07FOR FOREVER. YOU KNOW, DON JR. NEXT. AND HE'S TAKING ADVICE
00:58:10FROM PUTIN ON HOW TO DO IT. THAT'S MY OPINION. BUT, GEORGE, THANKS FOR THE CALL. GOOD
00:58:13TALKING TO YOU. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
00:58:17>> [MUSIC] >> YOU'RE LISTENING TO THOM
00:58:21HARTMANN.
00:58:33>> [MUSIC] >> C-SPAN 2. WE'RE BRINGING YOU
00:58:37LIVE WITH VOICES FROM ACROSS THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM. THIS WEEK,
00:58:40PROGRESSIVE COMMENTATOR THOM HARTMANN HOSTS THE THOM HARTMANN PROGRAM FROM PORTLAND, OREGON,
00:58:44AT NOON EASTERN, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, AND THEN AT 3 P.M.
00:58:46EASTERN MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY. CONSERVATIVE RADIO HOST HUGH
00:58:50HEWITT HOSTS THE HUGH HEWITT SHOW FROM WASHINGTON, D.C..
00:58:54WATCH LIVE ALL THIS MONTH ON C-SPAN 2 ONLINE AT C-SPAN .ORG
00:58:57OR ON C-SPAN. NOW, OUR FREE
00:59:02MOBILE VIDEO APP. THE ROAD TO THE CAPITOL RUNS
00:59:06>> [MUSIC] >> THROUGH AMERICA'S BATTLEGROUND STATES, AND C-SPAN IS THERE. OUR CAMERAS ARE ON THE
00:59:09GROUND FOLLOWING THE CAMPAIGNS WHERE THE TOUGHEST RACES WILL
00:59:13DECIDE THE BALANCE OF POWER IN CONGRESS, WE'RE THE ONLY
00:59:17NATIONAL TELEVISION NETWORK PROVIDING THIS LEVEL OF UNFILTERED ACCESS TO THE
00:59:20CANDIDATES, THE VOTERS, AND THE
00:59:23ISSUES SHAPING CAMPAIGN 2026. NO COMMENTATORS TELLING YOU WHAT TO
00:59:26THINK. NO PARTIZAN SPIN THE ROAD
00:59:28TO THE CAPITOL, ONLY ON C-SPAN.
00:59:32>> LATER TODAY. UTAH'S REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR, SPENCER
00:59:35COX, SITS DOWN FOR A
00:59:37CONVERSATION WITH FORMER OBAMA SENIOR ADVISER DAVID AXELROD.
00:59:40THE DISCUSSION, WHICH WILL PROMOTE CIVIL DISAGREEMENT, WILL
00:59:43FOCUS ON THE POLITICAL CULTURE
00:59:45IN POST-TRUMP AMERICA. WATCH LIVE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF
00:59:49CHICAGO AT 6:30 P.M. EASTERN ON
00:59:52C-SPAN. C-SPAN NOW. OUR FREE MOBILE APP OR ONLINE AT
00:59:55C-SPAN.ORG
01:00:04>> [MUSIC] >> AS MIKE SAID BEFORE, I HAPPEN
01:00:06TO LISTEN TO HIM. HE WAS ON
01:00:09C-SPAN ONE. THAT'S A BIG
01:00:11UPGRADE, RIGHT?
01:00:14>> C-SPAN 2 HAS ALSO DOCUMENTED
01:00:17NEARLY 24,000 ROLL CALL VOTES, PROVIDING THE TRANSPARENCY AND
01:00:21ACCOUNTABILITY OUR DEMOCRACY
01:00:23NEEDS TO THRIVE.
01:00:26>> THANKS TO C-SPAN 2, THIS
01:00:30PUBLIC SERVICE ALLOWS OUR CONSTITUENTS TO SEE THE SWEARING
01:00:32IN OF NEWLY ELECTED MEMBERS.
01:00:35WATCHING ALL NIGHT SESSIONS
01:00:37DURING VOTE DRAMAS, AND TUNE IN
01:00:39TO HISTORY BEING MADE.
01:00:43>> BUT I'VE READ ABOUT IT IN
01:00:44THE HISTORY BOOKS. I'VE SEEN THE
01:00:49C-SPAN FOOTAGE. >> IF IT'S A REALLY GOOD IDEA,
01:00:51PRESENT IT IN. >> PUBLIC VIEW ON C-SPAN.
01:00:55>> I WENT HOME AFTER THE SPEECH
01:00:57AND I TURNED ON C-SPAN. >> [MUSIC]
01:00:59>> I WAS ON C-SPAN, JUST THIS WEEK.
01:01:03>> TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, NOW
01:01:05IS THE TIME TO TUNE IN TO
01:01:09C-SPAN.
01:01:17>> SAYING, IN THE INTEREST OF NATIONAL SECURITY, WE ASK YOU TO
01:01:20RECONSIDER. CALL OFF THIS TRIP.
01:01:24UM, I WOULD TAKE YOU BACK TO,
01:01:28UH, JULY 31st. 2019. DURING
01:01:31TRUMP'S FIRST TERM. AND HE HAD A PRIVATE CONVERSATION WITH
01:01:35PUTIN. UH, THE WHITE HOUSE
01:01:37SPOKESPERSON SAID THAT THEY
01:01:40DISCUSSED WILDFIRES AND TRADE BETWEEN NATIONS. NO DROIDS IN
01:01:43THAT CAR. BUT THE FOLLOWING
01:01:45WEEK, ON AUGUST 2nd, THE DAILY
01:01:47BEAST'S BETSY SWAN REPORTED
01:01:50THAT TRUMP HAD THAT WEEK ASKED THE OFFICE OF THE DIRECTOR OF
01:01:54NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE TO PROVIDE HIM WITH A LIST OF ALL OF OUR
01:01:57INTELLIGENCE EMPLOYEES, WHICH INCLUDES ALL OF OUR SPIES. AND
01:02:01THE REQUEST HAD INTELLIGENCE
01:02:04EXPERIENCE. OFFICIALS
01:02:06EXPERIENCING, QUOTE, DISQUIET.
01:02:08THEN, PERHAPS JUST BY
01:02:10COINCIDENCE, UH, MONTHS AFTER TRUMP LEFT OFFICE WITH CASES OF
01:02:14CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS, WHICH PRESUMABLY INCLUDED THAT LIST OF
01:02:18ALL OF OUR SPIES, WHICH, AS FAR AS I'VE BEEN ABLE TO TELL, WE
01:02:22NEVER GOT BACK. THE NEW YORK
01:02:26TIMES RAN THIS STORY WITH THE HEADLINE, CAPTURED, KILLED, OR
01:02:29COMPROMISED. CIA ADMITS TO
01:02:31LOSING DOZENS OF INFORMANTS.
01:02:33THIS IS A, QUOTE, TOP AMERICAN
01:02:36OFFICIALS WARN, WARNED EVERY CIA STATION AND BASE AROUND THE
01:02:39WORLD LAST WEEK ABOUT TROUBLING
01:02:41NUMBERS OF INFORMANTS RECRUITED FROM OTHER COUNTRIES TO SPY FOR
01:02:44THE UNITED STATES, BEING CAPTURED OR KILLED. PEOPLE
01:02:46FAMILIAR WITH THE MATTER SAID.
01:02:50SO YOU KNOW, AND THEN, YOU KNOW,
01:02:54THERE WAS RAND PAUL WHO TOOK THAT SECRET PACKAGE THAT TRUMP
01:02:57GAVE HIM AND FLEW TO MOSCOW AND
01:02:59GAVE IT TO PUTIN, >> GAVE IT TO PUTIN'S PEOPLE.
01:03:02AND WE STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS IN THAT. BUT THEN RAND PAUL CAME
01:03:05BACK AND, AND TRIED TO
01:03:07FILIBUSTER ANY FURTHER AID TO
01:03:10UKRAINE. I MEAN, SOMETHING SOMETHING WEIRD IS GOING ON
01:03:14HERE. SOMETHING VERY WEIRD IS
01:03:15GOING ON HERE. AND, UH, AS SARAH
01:03:19FITZPATRICK NOTES IN THE ATLANTIC, QUOTE, ANXIETY WITH
01:03:22THE AGENCY PATEL LEADS HAS ONLY
01:03:27GROWN UH, SHE SAID, AND THIS IS
01:03:29FASCINATING. SHE WRITES, WHEN PATEL TOOK OVER LEADERSHIP OF THE BUREAU IN FEBRUARY OF LAST
01:03:33YEAR, HE STRUCK A NOTABLY DIFFERENT TONE ON RUSSIA THAN
01:03:35THAT OF HIS PREDECESSORS. RATHER THAN REGARDING MOSCOW PURELY AS
01:03:39AN ENEMY. HE SOUGHT OUT AREAS
01:03:42WHERE THE TWO NATIONS CAN PARTNER, INCLUDING COMBATING
01:03:46TRANSNATIONAL VIOLENT CRIME AND CYBER FRAUD. HE SHARES THAT
01:03:48APPROACH WITH OTHER SENIOR OFFICIALS IN THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, WHO HAVE
01:03:52CULTIVATED CLOSER TIES TO MOSCOW
01:03:55IN RECENT DAYS. TWO OF THE PRESIDENT'S TOP ADVISERS, JAMES
01:03:58BLAIR AND CHRIS LACIVITA LOUIS
01:04:01META, FOUND TIME AMID THE
01:04:04MIDTERM CAMPAIGNS TO VISIT REPUBLIKA SRPSKA TO ADVISE THE
01:04:08PRO ITS PRO RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT,
01:04:09ON VOTING ISSUES. SPECIAL ENVOY
01:04:13STEVE WITKOFF AND JARED KUSHNER HAVE BOTH SPENT CONSIDERABLE
01:04:15TIME WITH PUTIN AND DONALD TRUMP
01:04:17JR.. ACCEPTED A LAVISH WEDDING GIFT FROM A RUSSIAN OLIGARCH,
01:04:21UMAR KREMLEV, EARLIER THIS YEAR. A GOLD FRAMED PHOTO OF TRUMP
01:04:25WITH PUTIN WENT UP AT THE WHITE
01:04:31HOUSE. TRUMP ANNOUNCED THAT HE AND PUTIN HAD WORKED OUT A DEAL
01:04:32FOR THE IMPORTATION OF, UH, OF
01:04:36DIESEL FUEL. WHAT THEY'RE NOW, INSTEAD OF REFERRING TO RUSSIA
01:04:39AND CHINA AS OUR ADVERSARIES OR EVEN OUR COMPETITORS IN THE
01:04:42TRUMP WHITE HOUSE, THEY'RE NOW REFERRING TO THEM AS, QUOTE,
01:04:46NONTRADITIONAL PARTNERS. EXCUSE
01:04:49ME. IT'S COLD IN HERE. I MAY
01:04:52SNEEZE AGAIN. RUSSIA AND CHINA.
01:04:55PATEL PATEL DESCRIBED THIS IS AGAIN SARAH'S REPORTING. PATEL
01:04:58DESCRIBED EXTENSIVE BEHIND THE SCENES COOPERATION WITH RUSSIAN
01:05:01AUTHORITIES TO TARGET VIOLENT CRIMINAL NETWORKS. UH, THIS STUFF DOESN'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.
01:05:04HE SAID. WE'VE BEEN AT THIS FOR 15 MONTHS. SO FOR 15 MONTHS,
01:05:08WE'VE BEEN SUCKING UP TO RUSSIA
01:05:11AND TRYING TO BUILD BONDS AND
01:05:13AND BRIDGES TO RUSSIA. WHILE
01:05:18RUSSIA IS SLAUGHTERING OUR DEMOCRATIC ALLY IS THREATENING
01:05:22THE REST OF EUROPE IS THREATENING. CERTAINLY ESTONIA,
01:05:25LITHUANIA, LATVIA, AND POLAND HAS EXPLICITLY THREATENED THEM,
01:05:29HAS INVADED THEIR THEIR AIRSPACE AND THEIR SOVEREIGNTY MULTIPLE TIMES IN THE LAST COUPLE OF
01:05:33MONTHS. AND THE ASSUMPTION IS THAT THEY'RE JUST TESTING, YOU
01:05:37KNOW, WHAT'S GOING ON. HOW,
01:05:39HOW, WHEN DO PEOPLE RESPOND? AND WHEN SPEAKING WITH REUTERS, OUR
01:05:43FBI DIRECTOR CHARACTERIZED THE FBI'S RELATIONSHIP WITH RUSSIA
01:05:47AS, QUOTE, NEW AND DYNAMIC. SHE
01:05:52ALSO NOTES PATEL HAS SPENT YEARS ECHOING TRUMP'S CLAIMS THAT
01:05:55RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE IN THE 2016
01:05:57PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION WAS A HOAX
01:06:01SO IS KASH PATEL IN ON THIS,
01:06:02TOO? IS THIS WHY SO MANY FBI
01:06:06AGENTS HAVE BEEN FIRED IN? IS
01:06:10OUR FBI NOW BEING TAKEN OVER BY
01:06:11RUSSIA TO HERE'S THIS GUY.
01:06:16HE'S A HE WAS A SOCIAL MEDIA INFLUENCER AND A CHILDREN'S BOOK
01:06:20AUTHOR. AND HE'S RUNNING OUR FBI, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE WE GOT
01:06:24A PLUMBER RUNNING DHS AND A
01:06:26WRESTLING BILLIONAIRE RUNNING OUR EDUCATION DEPARTMENT. YOU
01:06:30KNOW, I, A FAILED REALITY TV STAR RUNNING OUR AIRLINES, YOU
01:06:33KNOW, OUR TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT. IT'S JUST CRAZY.
01:06:37ANYHOW, WE'RE BACK.
01:06:39>> [MUSIC] >> MCKIBBEN.
01:06:42>> BILL SCANLAN.
01:06:45>> THIS IS THE THOM HARTMANN PROGRAM.
01:06:48>> HEY, WELCOME BACK TO THE SECOND HOUR OF OUR PROGRAM. ON
01:06:51THE LINE WITH US IS BILL MCKIBBEN, THE FOUNDER OF
01:06:54350.ORG, THE AUTHOR OF THIRD ACT, AND 21 OTHER BOOKS, INCLUDING THE END OF NATURE.
01:06:58HE'S GOT A MARVELOUS SUBSTACK
01:07:01NEWSLETTER. IT'S BILL MCKIBBEN.SUBSTACK.COM. IT'S
01:07:05CALLED THE CRUCIAL YEARS, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, FROM BAD TO
01:07:08BETTER. BILL, WELCOME. WELCOME
01:07:10TO THE PROGRAM. TELL US ABOUT
01:07:13THIS ARC OF THE PHYSICAL UNIVERSE BENDS TOWARD HEAT, BUT MAYBE WE CAN BEND IT BACK. I
01:07:16LOVE THAT PHRASE. WELL, IT'S NICE TO HAVE YOU WITH US.
01:07:19>> IT'S GOOD TO BE WITH YOU. LONG TIME NO SPEAK, BROTHER.
01:07:22AND, UH, GLAD TO SEE YOU STILL
01:07:25ENGAGED IN YOUR CRUCIAL WORK. UM, SO, LOOK, I WAS JUST WRITING
01:07:28A LITTLE BIT, LAST WEEK ABOUT
01:07:31THE, UM, REMARKABLE EL NINO. NOW
01:07:35SET TO, UH, SET TO SORT OF
01:07:37ABORNING IN THE PACIFIC. WE CAN
01:07:39ALREADY SEE SOME OF ITS EFFECTS, BUT IT'S GETTING STRONGER BY
01:07:42THE DAY. UH, TEMPERATURES IN THE PACIFIC WILL PEAK SOMETIME IN
01:07:46LATE NOVEMBER. WHEN THEY DO,
01:07:50THEY'LL BE FAR, FAR HIGHER THAN WE'VE EVER OBSERVED IN ANY EL
01:07:54NINO BEFORE. THE NEW DATA TODAY
01:07:56INDICATES THIS MAY BE THE
01:07:58STRONGEST SUCH THING IN AT LEAST
01:08:01A THOUSAND YEARS. UH, THAT'S
01:08:04PROBABLY BECAUSE CLIMATE CHANGE
01:08:05IS MAKING EL NINO STRONGER, BUT
01:08:10IT'S DEFINITELY BECAUSE WHATEVER NATURAL CYCLE THIS IS, IS RIDING
01:08:13IN ON TOP OF THE ALREADY EXTREMELY ELEVATED TEMPERATURES
01:08:16THAT COME FROM BURNING LOTS OF
01:08:18COAL AND GAS AND OIL AND FILLING
01:08:21THE AIR WITH GREENHOUSE GAS
01:08:23EMISSIONS. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE
01:08:26IN FOR A WORLD OF HURT IN THE
01:08:27NEXT 12 MONTHS. UH, WE'RE GOING
01:08:31TO SEE TEMPERATURES HIGHER THAN ANY MEMBER OF OUR SPECIES HAS
01:08:34EVER EXPERIENCED ON THIS PLANET.
01:08:36AND, UM, ALL OF IT WILL BE A
01:08:39KIND OF PREVIEW OF NORMAL
01:08:42WEATHER, CIRCA 2035, 2040 ON OUR
01:08:47CURRENT CLIMATE TRAJECTORY. UM,
01:08:49ONE HOPES, ONE HOPES THAT IT
01:08:52WILL ALSO BE A SPUR TO GET OUR
01:08:57LEADERS ONCE AGAIN WORKING ON THE QUESTION. THEY WOULD JUST AS
01:09:00SOON IGNORE. UH, GETTING THE
01:09:05WORLD OFF FOSSIL FUEL AS FAST AS POSSIBLE, BECAUSE THAT'S THE
01:09:08ONLY TREATMENT WE'VE GOT FOR
01:09:10THE, UH, WORST, WORST DILEMMA
01:09:12THAT WE'VE EVER WANDERED INTO AS
01:09:16A CIVILIZATION. >> AND IRONICALLY, THIS WAR IN IRAN SEEMS TO BE PUSHING THE
01:09:20WORLD VERY RAPIDLY IN THAT DIRECTION. BILL.
01:09:23>> GIVE, UH, GIVE DONALD TRUMP,
01:09:26THE, UH, EV SALESMAN OF THE
01:09:28MONTH. YEAH. PLAQUE, UH, YOU
01:09:33KNOW, UM, HIS INSANE, UH, WAR,
01:09:36UH, ILL PLANNED, ILL CONCEIVED,
01:09:40ILL EXECUTED, UH, HAS REMINDED
01:09:44LEADERS ACROSS PLANET EARTH THAT THOSE SUNLIGHT HAS TO TRAVEL 93
01:09:47MILLION MILES TO REACH THE
01:09:49EARTH. NONE OF THOSE MILES GO THROUGH THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ,
01:09:52WHICH IS ALL OF A SUDDEN, A BIG
01:09:55MARKETING BONUS. UM, UH, SO,
01:09:58YEAH, UH, OF COURSE, THE PLACE
01:10:00WHERE WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING
01:10:02ABOUT THAT IS HERE IN THIS COUNTRY WHERE THE TRUMP
01:10:06ADMINISTRATION IS DOING
01:10:08EVERYTHING IT CAN TO SLOW DOWN
01:10:11THE, THE TRANSITION TO CHEAP, CLEAN, UH, LOCALLY.
01:10:15>> AVAILABLE SABOTAGE. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT HIM PAYING
01:10:18BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO COMPANIES
01:10:20TO STOP BUILDING WINDMILLS AND
01:10:22SOLAR PANELS. >> BILLIONS OF BILLIONS OF OUR
01:10:25DOLLARS. ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S WHAT I KNOW. THAT'S WHAT I SIGNED UP
01:10:28FOR. TOM, TO, UH, HAND OVER MY
01:10:31MONEY TO BUY BACK THE WIND LEASES FOR. MAKE SURE THAT
01:10:34OFFSHORE WIND NEVER, EVER GETS
01:10:38DEVELOPED. UM, LOOK, IT'S WE
01:10:43ARE LIVING THROUGH A CRIMINAL.
01:10:45UH, PERIOD IN OUR COUNTRY. AN
01:10:48INSANE KIND OF BONFIRE, AS IT
01:10:50WERE, OF THE OLIGARCHS. UM, AND
01:10:54ONE HOPES THAT BEGINNING
01:10:57NOVEMBER 3rd, WILL START THE
01:11:00LABORIOUS AND PAINFUL PROCESS OF REBOOTING THIS SYSTEM. THAT'S
01:11:03WHAT I'M SPENDING ALL MY TIME WORKING ON. NOW. YOU'RE CATCHING ME AT A RARE DAY AT HOME,
01:11:07BECAUSE I'VE BEEN OUT ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL WITH THIRD ACT.
01:11:11THIS ORGANIZATION, WE STARTED
01:11:13FIVE YEARS AGO FOR OLD PEOPLE
01:11:17LIKE ME, ANYBODY OVER THE AGE OF
01:11:1860. WE'VE NOW GOT 125,000
01:11:23MEMBERS AROUND THE COUNTRY. THEY ARE INCREDIBLY POLITICALLY
01:11:27ACTIVE. WE EVEN HAVE A A PAC, TOM. UH, BECAUSE WE'RE OLD,
01:11:30IT'S CALLED GRAY PAC, AND WE'RE
01:11:34THROWING WHAT ELBOWS WE CAN IN
01:11:36THIS ELECTION. I'VE, IN THE LAST
01:11:39WEEK, KNOCKED ON DOORS IN
01:11:42PENCIL. RURAL PENNSYLVANIA, IN BAKERSFIELD, CALIFORNIA. I WAS
01:11:45IN, UH, UM, CAPE ELIZABETH,
01:11:49MAINE, YESTERDAY, UH, ON TO MICHIGAN AND TEXAS THIS WEEK.
01:11:52UH, WE'RE, WE'VE GOT PEOPLE
01:11:56EVERYWHERE, UH, DOING IMMENSE AMOUNTS OF WORK IF THEY'RE
01:12:00HAPPENED, IF YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE, YOU PROBABLY DON'T. BUT IF YOU
01:12:03HAPPEN TO HAVE, UH, ANY OLD
01:12:05PEOPLE, UH, ANY EXPERIENCED
01:12:08AMERICANS, UH, AMONG YOUR, UH,
01:12:11VIEWERSHIP, THEY CAN GO TO THE
01:12:14WISE ELDERS. THAT'S IT. THEY
01:12:18CAN GO TO S T VOTE.ORG SLASH
01:12:20DOOR, KNOCK GRAY PAC. OKAY. AND
01:12:23FIND OUT HOW TO JOIN IN BECAUSE IT'S, UH, IT'S A LOT OF FUN.
01:12:26AND IT TURNS OUT, BY THE WAY,
01:12:28UH, THAT KNOCKING ON DOORS, UH,
01:12:30IS EASIER FOR OLDER PEOPLE.
01:12:34AMERICANS ARE NOT KEEN ALWAYS ANYMORE ON ANSWERING THE FRONT
01:12:37DOOR. UH, THEY SOMETIMES HIDE
01:12:39BEHIND THE RING DOORBELL, BUT IF
01:12:42IT'S A, UH, A NICE LOOKING,
01:12:46OLDER LADY OR GENTLEMAN OUT
01:12:49THERE ON THE STOOP, THEY'RE MORE
01:12:50LIKELY TO COME OUT, UH, AND
01:12:55SOMETIMES THEY REALLY ARE IMPRESSED. WHEN I WAS IN BAKERSFIELD, WE WERE KNOCKING
01:12:59DOORS IN 104 DEGREE HEAT, RECORD
01:13:02HEAT, AND LOTS OF PEOPLE WERE COMING OUT TO GIVE US WATER AND
01:13:06SAY, THANK YOU FOR TAKING PART IN OUR DEMOCRACY.
01:13:09>> THERE YOU GO. THAT'S S T
01:13:13VOTE. YST VOTE.ORG. >> UH, IT'S A IT'S A WONDERFUL
01:13:15GROUP CALLED SEED THE VOTE THAT
01:13:17WE WORK WITH. SO S T VOTE.ORG
01:13:21SLASH KNOCK PAC AND ALL ONE
01:13:23WORD.
01:13:27>> YEAH. GRAYPAC. AND, UH, YOU
01:13:28KNOW, I, I, I'VE FOLLOWED YOUR
01:13:32CAREER FOR YEARS, AND, YOU KNOW, YOU AND I HAVE KNOWN EACH OTHER FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. OH, YEAH.
01:13:35UM, AND, AND, BUT I'D NEVER THOUGHT OF YOU AS A POLITICAL
01:13:38GUY. UH, TALK ABOUT HOW THIS.
01:13:42>> ONLY ON, ONLY ON EVEN NUMBERED YEARS. >> YOU KNOW. >> IT SEEMS.
01:13:45>> YOU KNOW, TALK ABOUT HOW, HOW
01:13:48POLITICS IS LIKE, UH, SO INTRINSIC TO THIS IS HOW WE
01:13:51DETERMINE OUR FUTURE. THIS IS, THIS IS THE SYSTEM BY WHICH, YOU
01:13:54KNOW, IDEALLY, I MEAN, I THINK TRUMP IS TRYING TO TEAR THAT
01:13:57DOWN AND TRYING TO END IT. BUT
01:13:59THIS IS THE SYSTEM BY WHICH WE, WE DETERMINE HOW OUR CHILDREN
01:14:02AND GRANDCHILDREN ARE GOING TO LIVE, WHAT FUTURE GENERATIONS ARE GOING TO EXPERIENCE. IT'S
01:14:06REALLY IMPORTANT STUFF. >> OH, YOU KNOW, AND, AND
01:14:10SOMETIMES IT'S QUITE MOVING STUFF. YOU KNOW, I, I GOT TO
01:14:14INTRODUCE BERNIE, UH, THE DAY
01:14:15THAT HE ANNOUNCED HE WAS RUNNING
01:14:19FOR PRESIDENT IN 2016, WE HAD A RALLY ON THE SHORE OF LAKE
01:14:22CHAMPLAIN. AND THE THREE PEOPLE
01:14:23WHO INTRODUCED HIM WERE ME AND
01:14:27BEN AND JERRY. AND, AND, YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER THINKING, OH,
01:14:30THIS MAY BE THE BIGGEST CROWD THAT BERNIE GETS IN THIS WHOLE
01:14:34CAMPAIGN. A MONTH LATER, I WAS
01:14:36INTRODUCING HIM AT HYNES
01:14:38AUDITORIUM IN BOSTON TO 50,000
01:14:40SCREAMING FANS. UH, HE
01:14:44DEMONSTRATED IN THE COURSE OF A COUPLE OF MONTHS THAT THERE WAS
01:14:47A HUGE APPETITE IN AMERICA FOR
01:14:49PROGRESSIVE CHANGE. AND THAT
01:14:51WAS, TO ME, A JUST COMPLETELY
01:14:55POWERFUL REMINDER THAT THERE IS
01:14:57LOTS AND LOTS THAT CAN BE DONE.
01:15:02IT'S ELECTORAL POLITICS IS ONLY PART OF WHAT WE DO. WHAT I DO AS AN ORGANIZER. WE'VE SPENT THE
01:15:06LAST YEAR PUSHING STATE
01:15:09LEGISLATURES TO DO PERMITTING FOR, UH, WHAT WE CALL BALCONY
01:15:12PLUG IN SOLAR. WE'VE MANAGED TO
01:15:16CONVINCE 12 STATES TO LEGALIZE IT THIS SPRING. NEXT SUMMER,
01:15:20WE'LL BE HAVING A HUGE GLOBAL
01:15:22DAY OF ACTION AROUND SOLAR
01:15:24ENERGY CALLED SUN DAY. UH,
01:15:26THAT'LL TRY AND PUSH, UH, THE
01:15:29ENTIRE WORLD IN THE DIRECTION OF THE CHEAP, CLEAN ENERGY THAT'S
01:15:32NOW, UH, YOU KNOW, REMIND US THAT WE NOW LIVE ON A PLANET
01:15:35WHERE THE CHEAPEST WAY TO MAKE POWER IS TO POINT A SHEET OF
01:15:38GLASS AT THE SUN. BUT POLITICS
01:15:40IS THE TRANSMISSION GEAR OF, UH,
01:15:44GOOD POLICY, YOU KNOW, UH, IT DOESN'T. YOU CAN HAVE ALL THE
01:15:47SCIENTISTS AND POLICY PEOPLE IN THE WORLD COMING UP WITH SMART
01:15:51IDEAS AND TIMELY WARNINGS. AND
01:15:55IF YOUR POLITICAL SYSTEM IS COMPLETELY CONTROLLED BY THE
01:15:58POWERS THAT BE, IN THIS CASE, BY BIG OIL, THEN YOU'RE NOT GOING
01:16:02TO GET DONE WHAT NEEDS DOING. SO
01:16:05THAT'S WHY WE'RE OUT PUSHING.
01:16:08WE NEED A CONGRESS THAT CAN ACT
01:16:10AS A BRAKE ON, UH, THE
01:16:13PRESIDENT, THE TWO THINGS THAT THIRD ACT CARES ABOUT ARE TWO
01:16:16COMMITMENTS ARE TO CLIMATE AND TO DEMOCRACY. AND THE ATTACK ON
01:16:20BOTH IS OBVIOUSLY WELL UNDERWAY.
01:16:25AND SO HENCE, OUR EFFORT AT A DEFENSE. >> HOW DO PEOPLE FIND THIRD ACT
01:16:28AND SIGN UP FOR YOUR GROUP?
01:16:31>> THIRD ACT.ORG. OH, THAT'S EASY. AND YOU KNOW, TOM, PEOPLE
01:16:34SAID WHEN WE STARTED FIVE YEARS
01:16:38AGO, THAT ORGANIZING OLD PEOPLE WAS PROBABLY A FOOL'S ERRAND,
01:16:41THAT AS WE GROW OLDER, WE BECOME
01:16:43MORE CONSERVATIVE. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT WAS TRUE AT ONCE
01:16:47UPON A TIME, BUT IT'S NOT TRUE.
01:16:50NOW, IF YOU'RE IN YOUR 60s, 70s
01:16:5280s NOW, IT MEANS YOUR FIRST ACT
01:16:54WAS IN THAT PERIOD OF SOCIAL,
01:16:59ENVIRONMENTAL, POLITICAL TRANSFORMATION IN THE 60s, LATE
01:17:0260s, EARLY 70s, THE APEX OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT. THE
01:17:05MOMENT WHEN WE STARTED TAKING
01:17:09WOMEN SERIOUSLY IN PUBLIC LIFE, THE FIRST EARTH DAY THAT DREW 20
01:17:10MILLION AMERICANS, 10% OF THE
01:17:14THEN POPULATION, INTO THE STREETS AND GAVE US THE CLEAN
01:17:16AIR ACT AND THE CLEAN WATER ACT.
01:17:19WITHIN 18 MONTHS. SO THESE ARE
01:17:21PEOPLE WHO HAVE MUSCLE MEMORY OF
01:17:23THE FACT THAT PEOPLE POWER CAN
01:17:26WORK. AND IT'S INCREDIBLY
01:17:30WONDERFUL TO SEE THEM SUMMONING
01:17:32IT AGAIN AND GETTING THIS JOB
01:17:34DONE. I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW MUCH
01:17:38I ADMIRE THE PEOPLE THAT WE WORK
01:17:40WITH, ALL THE WAY UP INTO THEIR,
01:17:42YOU KNOW, TRIPLE DIGITS. UM,
01:17:45IT'S TRULY INSPIRING. >> I JUST HAVE LIKE, UH, 55
01:17:49SECONDS HERE UNTIL WE HIT A HARD BREAK. BUT, UM, IT SEEMS TO ME
01:17:52THAT A COALITION IS FORMING BETWEEN ZOOMERS. YOU KNOW, THE YOUNGER, THE YOUNGEST GENERATION
01:17:56COMING UP RIGHT NOW, AND BOOMERS. AM I, AM I JUST.
01:18:00>> I THINK YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY
01:18:02RIGHT. WE WORK HARD TO SUPPORT YOUNG PEOPLE WHEREVER THEY CAN.
01:18:05AND ON MANY OF THESE ISSUES, YOU KNOW, FOR THE YOUNG, FOR YOUNG
01:18:08PEOPLE, WE HEAR A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THINGS LIKE CLIMATE
01:18:11ANXIETY. YEAH. THEY'RE ANXIOUS ABOUT WHAT THE TEMPERATURE IS
01:18:14GOING TO BE, BUT THEY'RE MORE ANXIOUS ABOUT THE FACT THAT
01:18:17THEY'VE BEEN ABANDONED TO DEAL
01:18:18WITH IT BY THEMSELVES. WE NEED
01:18:22TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THAT IS NOT TRUE. >> RIGHT? NOT TO MENTION THAT
01:18:25THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, FROM THE POWELL MEMO FORWARD, UH, YOU
01:18:29KNOW, AND THE REAGAN REVOLUTION
01:18:32AND THE NEOLIBERAL REVOLUTION, AND EVEN THE CLINTON EMBRACE OF NEOLIBERALISM THAT WE'VE JUST
01:18:35SEEN THE DESTRUCTION OF THE
01:18:38MIDDLE CLASS. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS WHY BERNIE'S IDEAS AND
01:18:42THE NEW DEAL IDEAS ARE SO POPULAR AGAIN. I THINK THE GREAT BILL MCKIBBEN, THE FOUNDER OF
01:18:45350.ORG, THIRD ACT.ORG, UH, BILL
01:18:51MCKIBBEN.SUBSTACK.COM. AND HANG
01:18:52ON JUST A SECOND. IT'S, UH, S T
01:18:56VOTE.ORG/DOORKNOCK. GRAY PACK. PAC. BILL, THANKS SO MUCH FOR DROPPING BY.
01:19:00>> THANK YOU BROTHER. >> GREAT TO SEE YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU. I'LL BE BACK WITH MORE OF
01:19:04THE NEWS OF THE DAY AND YOUR
01:19:05CALLS IN JUST A MOMENT.
01:19:08>> [MUSIC]
01:19:14>> THIS IS THE THOM >> [MUSIC] >> HARTMANN PROGRAM.
01:19:17>> IT'S THE PLACE WHERE SMART PEOPLE GET >> [MUSIC]
01:19:20>> THEIR NEWS. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
01:19:22>> [MUSIC] [MUSIC]
01:19:36>> WELCOME BACK. JD IN TULSA, OKLAHOMA. HEY, JD, WHAT'S ON
01:19:39YOUR MIND TODAY? >> UH.
01:19:43>> JUST MY BELIEF THAT, UM. >> THE REASON THAT WE'RE GETTING
01:19:46OIL FROM RUSSIA NOW.
01:19:48>> IS SO UKRAINE I'M
01:20:00>> IF YOU'VE GOT YOUR TV ON OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU JUST NEED TO TURN IT DOWN, OR IT'LL
01:20:04JUST DISTRACT THE HECK OUT OF YOU. BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS
01:20:07TO ME LIKE PART OF THIS PLAN IS FOR TRUMP TO HAVE AN EXCUSE TO,
01:20:11TO RAG ON UKRAINE FOR STRIKING
01:20:16RUSSIAN OIL FACILITIES. IS THAT, IS THAT WHERE YOU WERE GOING? >> ABSOLUTELY.
01:20:20>> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. THANK YOU. YEAH. I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT. I THINK, YOU
01:20:24KNOW, TRUMP IS, UH, IS. AND I THINK THAT'S WHY PUTIN SUGGESTED
01:20:28IT TO TRUMP. AND I MEAN, YOU
01:20:30KNOW, YES, GIVE AMERICA, WHAT, THREE DAYS WORTH OF DIESEL. AND
01:20:33IN EXCHANGE FOR THAT, UKRAINE,
01:20:36UKRAINE IS NO LONGER ALLOWED TO USE WEAPONRY AGAINST RUSSIA.
01:20:39IT'S JUST IT'S SAD. JD THANK YOU. YOU NAILED IT. YOU ABSOLUTELY NAILED IT.
01:20:42>> NO THANK YOU. >> YEAH. I APPRECIATE. >> THE CALL. >> GOOD DAY. YOU, TOO. ROGER IN
01:20:46SEATTLE. HEY, ROGER. WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY?
01:20:50>> WELL, IT'S GREAT THAT YOU HAD SOMEBODY FROM OKLAHOMA.
01:20:52BECAUSE I WANT TO TALK ABOUT
01:20:55MARKWAYNE MULLIN. BUT THE OTHER
01:21:00IGNORING BY YOUR PREVIOUS ANSWER IS THE NEWS ITEM THAT INSURERS
01:21:03ARE NOT GOING TO START LOWERING
01:21:06THEIR INSURANCE PRICES UNTIL
01:21:08THEY DON'T, YOU KNOW, DON'T
01:21:11LISTEN TO THE LIES OF TRUMP. SO
01:21:12WHEN THEY SEE OTHER
01:21:16CONFIRMATION, THEN THE INSURANCE PRICES WILL START LOWERING ON
01:21:19ALL THOSE SHIPS THAT GO THROUGH
01:21:20THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ. NOW,
01:21:24MARKWAYNE MULLIN IS ALSO FROM OKLAHOMA. AS AN ENROLLED
01:21:27CHEROKEE MEMBER. UH, ON THIS DAY
01:21:30OF INDIGENOUS, UH, YOU KNOW,
01:21:34AMERICA. SO WHEN I THINK ABOUT
01:21:36HOW HIS CONVERSATIONS, WHEN HE
01:21:40GETS BACK TO OKLAHOMA, AND MAYBE
01:21:42HE IS WILLING TO TALK TO SOME OF
01:21:45HIS FELLOW TRIBAL MEMBERS, SOME,
01:21:48NOT ALL OF THEM ARE GOING TO
01:21:51AGREE WITH, WITH TRUMP. UH, NEXT TO THE NAVAJOS, IT SEEMS LIKE
01:21:54THE CHEROKEES ARE ONE OF THE
01:21:56BIGGEST TRIBES IN AMERICA. SO
01:22:01IMAGINE, WITH ALL OF THE, UM,
01:22:04DEFENSIVE AND, UH, BACK, UH,
01:22:09PEDALING, HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO DO EVERY TIME SOMEBODY SAYS, WELL, WHY DID YOU DO THIS WHEN
01:22:12YOU WERE A DHS? ET CETERA. ET
01:22:15CETERA. AND IMAGINE ALL THE DHS
01:22:18SLOWDOWNS. HE'S GOING TO GET TO
01:22:20EXPERIENCE. ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS WITH NATIVE AMERICANS
01:22:24IS THAT THEY GET IDENTIFIED AS
01:22:27ASIANS, UH, HISPANICS, AND MAYBE
01:22:31EVEN ARABS, AND MAYBE HE'LL GET AN ICE PULLOVER, OR MAYBE HE'LL
01:22:34GET A TSA SLOWDOWN, OR MAYBE HIS
01:22:38BOAT IN THE MIDDLE OF OKLAHOMA WILL GET A COAST GUARD
01:22:41INSPECTION, YOU KNOW, MORE EVERY WEEK OR SOMETHING.
01:22:45>> YEAH, I JUST, JUST BECAUSE,
01:22:49BECAUSE HE'S PART NATIVE AMERICAN. >> HE LOOKS LIKE A HISPANIC.
01:22:52>> NOT, NOT BECAUSE YOU'RE EXPECTING A FUTURE DEMOCRATIC
01:22:54ADMINISTRATION TO, TO GO ON SOME KIND OF REVENGE BINGE OR SOMETHING.
01:22:58>> NO, I, I HAD A NICE WEEK LONG
01:23:02VISIT TO EL PASO WITH A CHURCH
01:23:04GROUP TO CHECK OUT SOME
01:23:10COOPERATION WITH THE PRESBYTERIAN AND METHODIST
01:23:13CHURCHES ABOUT PROVIDING SHELTER TO MIGRANTS BECAUSE.
01:23:17>> WELL. >> YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST ACROSS THE BORDER FROM JUAREZ, ISN'T
01:23:21IT? YEAH. WHATEVER. THE SISTER
01:23:23CITY IS FROM EL PASO. YEAH. AND A LOT OF THE DHS PEOPLE AT THE
01:23:26TIME, THIS IS LIKE SIX YEARS
01:23:28AGO, THEY WERE VERY SYMPATHETIC
01:23:32TO, YOU KNOW, HAVING TO. >> THERE'S BEEN A COMPLETE CULTURE.
01:23:35>> SHIFT AS THEY CAN. >> YEAH. ROGER, I GOT TO RUN. I'M SORRY, BUT THANK YOU. THANK
01:23:38YOU, AND GOOD ON YOU
01:23:50>> [MUSIC] >> TIRED OF SPIN AND BILLIONAIRE
01:23:53BACKED NEWS. THE COMMONWEALTH REPORT DELIVERS TRUTH WITH
01:23:56BACKBONE NEWS FOR THE PUBLIC, NOT THE POWERFUL. TWICE DAILY.
01:23:58NO FLUFF, NO FEAR. GO TO
01:24:02COMMONWEALTH REPORT.NEWS AND SUBSCRIBE NOW. DEMOCRACY BELONGS
01:24:06TO YOU. SO, HAVE YOU NOTICED
01:24:08THAT THE REPUBLICAN
01:24:37>> AT NOON EASTERN MONDAY THROUGH >> [MUSIC] >> FRIDAY, AND THEN AT 3 P.M. EASTERN, MONDAY THROUGH
01:24:40THURSDAY, CONSERVATIVE RADIO HOST HUGH HEWITT HOSTS THE HUGH
01:24:43HEWITT SHOW FROM WASHINGTON,
01:24:45D.C. WATCH LIVE. ALL THIS MONTH
01:24:48ON C-SPAN TWO, ONLINE AT C-SPAN .ORG OR ON C-SPAN. NOW, OUR FREE
01:24:51MOBILE VIDEO APP. THE ROAD TO
01:24:56THE >> [MUSIC] >> CAPITOL RUNS THROUGH AMERICA'S BATTLEGROUND STATES,
01:24:59AND C-SPAN IS THERE. OUR CAMERAS ARE ON THE GROUND FOLLOWING THE
01:25:02CAMPAIGNS WHERE THE TOUGHEST RACES WILL DECIDE THE BALANCE OF
01:25:06POWER IN CONGRESS. WE'RE THE ONLY NATIONAL TELEVISION NETWORK
01:25:09PROVIDING THIS LEVEL OF UNFILTERED ACCESS TO THE
01:25:12CANDIDATES, THE VOTERS, AND THE
01:25:14ISSUES SHAPING CAMPAIGN 2026. NO COMMENTATORS TELLING YOU WHAT TO
01:25:18THINK. NO PARTIZAN SPIN. THE
01:25:19ROAD TO THE CAPITOL. ONLY ON
01:25:23C-SPAN
01:25:31>> JUST. HOMELAND SECURITY
01:25:33INVESTIGATIONS, WHICH MY
01:25:36UNDERSTANDING IS H. SI IS
01:25:38BASICALLY IN TIGHT WITH ICE. OR
01:25:40MAYBE EVEN AS PART OF ICE. I'M
01:25:43NOT. I YOU KNOW, I'M NOT CERTAIN
01:25:46OF THE EXACT NATURE OF THIS, BUT IT'S IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S THE H.
01:25:49SI GUYS WHO ARE WITH THE ICE
01:25:52GUYS MORE OFTEN THAN NOT. SO
01:25:54THEY JUST BUSTED INTO HER HOME
01:25:58THIS MORNING. AND, UH, AND TORE
01:26:00IT APART. AND APPARENTLY THE STATEMENT FROM THE HOMELAND
01:26:04SECURITY INVESTIGATION SAYS THIS ENFORCEMENT ACTION IS PART OF AN
01:26:08ONGOING FEDERAL INVESTIGATION.
01:26:11UM, THIS MIGHT BE IN RESPONSE TO
01:26:14ILHAN OMAR. UH, JUST LAST WEEK,
01:26:16AFTER AN ICE THUG, UH, SHOT A
01:26:20GUY WITH HIS FIVE YEAR OLD SON IN THE, IN THE VEHICLE, PUT
01:26:23SEVEN, SEVEN BULLETS INTO HIS
01:26:24VEHICLE. UM, SHE POSTED ON
01:26:27SATURDAY. ICE IS OUT OF CONTROL THIS WEEK. A FIVE YEAR OLD CHILD
01:26:30WATCHED ICE SHOOT HIS FATHER. TRUMP'S ROGUE AGENCY HAS SHOT
01:26:34MORE THAN 43 PEOPLE IN TWO YEARS, MURDERING EIGHT. THERE IS
01:26:38NO REFORMING THIS ABHORRENT
01:26:39AGENCY. ABOLISH ICE. SO HERE YOU
01:26:42HAVE A MEMBER OF CONGRESS, BUT
01:26:45ALSO SHE'S GOT DARK SKIN.
01:26:48SHE'S A AND SHE'S A AN
01:26:53IMMIGRANT. AND SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THE STACK WRIGHT FOR, FOR
01:26:56STEPHEN MILLER GET ALL THOSE BROWN PEOPLE OUT OF AMERICA, AND
01:26:59DON'T LET ANY MORE IMMIGRANTS IN UNLESS THEY ARE WHITE SOUTH
01:27:02AFRICANS. AND IN FACT, UH, WITH
01:27:05THREE EXCEPTIONS, THREE AFGHAN
01:27:08PEOPLE WITH THOSE THREE INDIVIDUAL EXCEPTIONS, EVERY
01:27:12SINGLE PERSON THAT HAS BEEN LEGALLY ADMITTED INTO THE UNITED STATES SINCE TRUMP TOOK OFFICE
01:27:15ON JANUARY 20th OF LAST YEAR, HAS BEEN A WHITE SOUTH AFRICAN.
01:27:18EVERY. SINGLE ONE. THAT'S IT.
01:27:22THAT'S ALL WE'RE LETTING IN. AND WE ARE KICKING OUT BROWN PEOPLE AND BLACK PEOPLE AS FAST
01:27:26AS WE CAN, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT
01:27:29MAGA REALLY IS ALL ABOUT, IS MAKE AMERICA WHITE AGAIN. AND
01:27:32THIS, THIS RACIST CAMPAIGN. AND,
01:27:36UH, AND THIS, THIS, I THINK
01:27:37STARTED WHEN LAURA LOOMER, UH,
01:27:41LAST MONTH WAS, YOU KNOW, POSTING TO MARKWAYNE MULLIN SAYING, WHY DON'T YOU, WHY
01:27:44DON'T YOU INVESTIGATE LAURA LOOMER OR, EXCUSE ME, UH, ILHAN
01:27:48OMAR. AND SURE ENOUGH, HERE WE ARE. >> [MUSIC]
01:27:52>> AMAZING STUFF. I'LL BE BACK
01:27:56WITH MORE OF THE NEWS OF THE DAY >> [MUSIC] >> IN YOUR CALLS IN JUST A MOMENT. IT'S 27 MINUTES PAST
01:27:59THE HOUR. AND THE THOM HARTMANN PROGRAM, THE PLACE WHERE DESPAIR
01:28:01IS NOT AN OPTION. STICK AROUND.
01:28:05>> YOU'RE LISTENING TO THE THOM
01:28:07HARTMANN
01:28:11>> [MUSIC] >> PROGRAM. CALL 2028089925. >> AND NOW TRUMP IS LAUNCHING A
01:28:14PROBE INTO AN ANTITRUST PROBE,
01:28:17INTO THE NEWS NETWORKS. I'LL TELL YOU ABOUT THAT IN A.
01:28:19>> SECOND.
01:28:30>> [MUSIC]
01:28:41>> RADIO SIMULCAST WITH >> [MUSIC] >> VOICES FROM ACROSS THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM THIS WEEK,
01:28:44PROGRESSIVE COMMENTATOR THOM HARTMANN HOSTS THE THOM HARTMANN PROGRAM FROM PORTLAND, OREGON,
01:28:48AT NOON EASTERN MONDAY THROUGH >> [MUSIC] >> FRIDAY, AND THEN AT 3 P.M.
01:28:52EASTERN MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY. CONSERVATIVE RADIO HOST HUGH HEWITT HOSTS THE HUGH HEWITT
01:28:55SHOW FROM WASHINGTON, D.C. WATCH
01:28:58LIVE. ALL THIS MONTH, ON C-SPAN
01:29:002, ONLINE AT C-SPAN .ORG OR ON
01:29:03C-SPAN. NOW, OUR FREE MOBILE VIDEO APP.
01:29:06>> COMMONWEALTH REPORT.NEWS. DID
01:29:11TRUMP JUST HAND PUTIN A GIFT? WHILE AMERICAN DRIVERS GET NOTHING, DONALD TRUMP JUST CUT A
01:29:14DEAL WITH VLADIMIR PUTIN. ON FRIDAY, HE ANNOUNCED RUSSIA WILL
01:29:18SHIP 300,000 TONS OF DIESEL
01:29:20RIGHT AWAY, 500,000 MORE IN
01:29:22NOVEMBER, THAN A MILLION THAN ANOTHER 3 MILLION. AFTER THAT,
01:29:26HIS TREASURY DEPARTMENT EASED
01:29:28SANCTIONS ON RUSSIAN DIESEL INTO
01:29:30APRIL OF 2027. THIS COMES ONE
01:29:32MONTH AFTER TRUMP SIGNED A LAW MEANT TO CHOKE OFF THE MONEY.
01:29:35THE OIL MONEY THAT PAYS FOR PUTIN'S WAR. UKRAINE'S PRESIDENT
01:29:39ZELENSKY CALLED IT A GIFT TO PUTIN AND WARNED, QUOTE, RUSSIA
01:29:43WILL REPAY THE DIESEL WITH FURTHER TERROR AND PERFIDY. AND
01:29:46ENERGY EXPERTS SAY IT PROBABLY WON'T LOWER PRICES. MUCH DIESEL
01:29:49SITTING AT 628 A GALLON, DRIVEN UP BY TRUMP'S OWN WAR WITH
01:29:53IRAN. SO PUTIN GETS CASH FOR HIS
01:29:55WAR MACHINE. UKRAINE GETS MORE
01:29:57BOMBS, AND AMERICAN AND TRUCKERS AND FARMERS GET A PRESS RELEASE.
01:30:01ARE TRUMP'S TARIFFS CRUSHING THE VERY FACTORIES HE PROMISED TO
01:30:04SAVE? ASKED DOUG RUNDY. HE RUNS
01:30:08SHAPES UNLIMITED, AN ALUMINUM PRODUCTS MANUFACTURER IN NORTH
01:30:11JACKSON, OHIO. TRUMP'S ALUMINUM
01:30:13TARIFFS CLIMBED FROM 10 TO 20 5%
01:30:16TO 50%, AND RANDY SAYS THEY'RE COSTING HIM UPWARDS OF 4.5 TO $5
01:30:20MILLION THIS YEAR ALONE. END
01:30:22QUOTE. SHIPPING SURCHARGES TIED
01:30:24TO THE IRAN WAR ARE AS HIGH AS
01:30:27$6,500 A CONTAINER, SO HE STOPPED HIRING, AND HE'S BUYING
01:30:31ROBOTS INSTEAD. OVER IN WARREN,
01:30:33COUNTERTOP MAKER SAM MILLER PAYS TARIFFS ON MATERIALS FROM ASIA
01:30:36AND CAN'T EXPAND INTO CANADA, WHERE TRADE TALKS COLLAPSED IN
01:30:40AUGUST. CANADA BUYS A THIRD OF EVERYTHING. OHIO EXPORTS. THE SUPREME COURT STRUCK DOWN MANY
01:30:44OF THESE TARIFFS. TRUMP PUT THEM
01:30:46RIGHT BACK. TARIFFS ARE SOLD AS A GIFT TO WORKING PEOPLE, BUT
01:30:49THEY'VE TURNED INTO A TAX ON
01:30:51THE FOLKS WHO ACTUALLY MAKE THINGS. WELL. TEXAS POLITICIANS
01:30:54NOW DECIDE WHAT EVERY PROFESSOR
01:30:56IS ALLOWED TO TEACH. THE
01:31:00ATLANTIC REPORTS THAT THAT STATE, THE STATE NOW CONTROLS WHAT PROFESSORS CAN TEACH. UNDER
01:31:04A LAW WRITTEN BY FORMER REPUBLICAN STATE SENATOR BRANDON
01:31:07CREIGHTON. REGENTS. REGENTS. PICKED BY GOVERNOR GREG ABBOTT
01:31:11HOLD POWER OVER THE CURRICULUM.
01:31:13TEXAS A&M AND TEXAS TECH
01:31:15RESTRICTED TEACHING ABOUT RACE, GENDER, AND SEXUAL ORIENTATION.
01:31:19A&M SHUT DOWN ITS WOMEN'S AND
01:31:21GENDER STUDIES DEGREE. UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS REGENTS
01:31:24VOTED TO LIMIT WHAT THEY CALL, QUOTE, UNNECESSARY,
01:31:27CONTROVERSIAL SUBJECTS. ONE A&M PHILOSOPHY PROFESSOR SAID HE
01:31:30WASN'T ALLOWED TO TEACH PLATO.
01:31:32ANOTHER WAS FIRED AFTER A LESSON ON GENDER IDENTITY, AND SHE'S
01:31:36SUING A NEW STATE OFFICE NOW
01:31:39INVESTIGATES COMPLAINTS ABOUT PROFESSORS IN A GOVERNMENT THAT
01:31:41PICKS WHICH IDEAS ARE LEGAL IN A
01:31:44CLASSROOM IS TRAINING,
01:31:46OBEDIENCE, AND DEMOCRACY CAN'T
01:31:49SURVIVE ON THAT. HOW MANY MORE MATERNITY WARDS WILL CLOSE
01:31:51BEFORE REPUBLICANS ADMIT WHAT THEY DID? THE GUARDIAN REPORTS
01:31:5552 MATERNITY WARDS HAVE CLOSED SINCE JULY OF LAST YEAR, WHEN
01:31:59TRUMP'S BIG, BEAUTIFUL BILL BECAME LAW. ANOTHER EIGHT HAVE ANNOUNCED THEY'RE CLOSING,
01:32:03ACCORDING TO THE GROUP PROTECT
01:32:05OUR CARE. THAT BILL CUT NEARLY $1 TRILLION FROM MEDICAID, AND
01:32:08MEDICAID PAYS FOR MORE THAN 40%
01:32:11OF BIRTHS IN AMERICA. HOSPITALS IN VIRGINIA AND RURAL GEORGIA
01:32:13POINTED TO THE COMING CUTS WHEN THEY SHUT DOWN THEIR UNITS FOR
01:32:16GOOD. THE MARCH OF DIMES SAYS 31 MORE RURAL HOSPITALS ARE AT
01:32:20RISK, AND IF THEY GO, 96 COUNTIES LOSE THEIR LAST PLACE
01:32:24TO DELIVER A BABY. SENATOR RON WYDEN WARNED THIS SUMMER, QUOTE,
01:32:28MATERNITY WARDS ACROSS AMERICA ARE SHUTTERING THEIR DOORS. AND
01:32:31THE WORST OF IT, INCLUDING WORK
01:32:33REQUIREMENTS, DOESN'T EVEN START UNTIL JANUARY. THEY TOOK HEALTH
01:32:36CARE FROM MOTHERS AND BABIES TO PAY FOR BILLIONAIRE TAX CUTS.
01:32:40REMEMBER THAT IN NOVEMBER, J.D.
01:32:43VANCE TELLS A BLACK SENATE CANDIDATE SHE DOESN'T BELONG IN
01:32:46AMERICA. AT A CAMPAIGN STOP IN LAKELAND, FLORIDA, ON OCTOBER 1st, THE VICE PRESIDENT WENT
01:32:49AFTER ANGIE NIXON, THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE FOR U.S.
01:32:53SENATE. THE FLORIDA PHOENIX REPORTS. HE SAID SHE DOESN'T
01:32:56BELONG IN AMERICA, AND C-SPAN VIDEO SHOWS HIM TELLING HER TO
01:32:59GET THE HELL OUT OF THE COUNTRY IF SHE'S A SOCIALIST. NIXON IS
01:33:03BLACK. HER FAMILY'S BEEN IN FLORIDA FOR GENERATIONS. SHE
01:33:07FIRED BACK FRIDAY, QUOTE, I DON'T NEED JD VANCE'S
01:33:11PERMISSION TO BELONG HERE. AND SHE POINTED OUT THAT THE SENATOR
01:33:13ADVANCES SIDE. ASHLEY MOODY WAS NEVER ELECTED. MOODY WAS
01:33:17APPOINTED IN 2025 TO MARCO RUBIO'S SEAT. NIXON CALLED THE
01:33:21ATTACK A DESPERATE DISTRACTION FROM RISING INSURANCE, RENT AND
01:33:24HEALTH CARE COSTS, TELLING BLACK AMERICANS TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY
01:33:27IS ONE OF THE OLDEST AND UGLIEST TRICKS IN OUR POLITICS. IT
01:33:31DESERVES AN ANSWER AT THE BALLOT
01:33:33BOX. TRUMP RAGES AT NORWAY AFTER THE NOBEL PRIZE GOES TO SOMEONE
01:33:37ELSE. THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE WENT
01:33:40FRIDAY TO NAVI PILLAY. THE 85
01:33:42YEAR OLD SOUTH AFRICAN JURIST
01:33:44WHO DEFENDED ANTI-APARTHEID
01:33:47ACTIVISTS, JUDGED THE RWANDA
01:33:49GENOCIDE TRIALS AND LATER RAN HUMAN RIGHTS FOR THE UN. DONALD
01:33:53TRUMP DIDN'T TAKE IT WELL. AT A RALLY IN SYRACUSE, NEW YORK, HE
01:33:56CALLED HER A MYSTERY PERSON AND WARNED THAT WE WILL NOT FORGET
01:34:00NORWAY. THEN HE POSTED THAT HE SHOULD HAVE WON EIGHT NOBEL
01:34:02PRIZES, ONE FOR EACH WAR. HE CLAIMS HE SETTLED AND CALLED THE
01:34:06DECISION AN INDELIBLE STAIN ON
01:34:09NORWAY. SMALL PROBLEM. NORWAY'S
01:34:11GOVERNMENT. GOVERNMENT DOESN'T PICK THE WINNER. AN INDEPENDENT
01:34:14COMMITTEE DOES. PILL GOT THE NEWS AT A CONFERENCE IN NUREMBERG AND TOLD THE CHEERING
01:34:18ROOM, IF YOU CLAP A LITTLE BIT MORE, I MAY SHARE THIS PRIZE
01:34:21WITH TRUMP, A MAN WHO THREATENS A COUNTRY OVER A TROPHY HAS TOLD
01:34:24YOU EVERYTHING ABOUT WHY HE DIDN'T GET IT. AND THAT'S THE
01:34:28WAY IT IS TODAY. MONDAY, OCTOBER
01:34:3012th, 2026. I'M THOM HARTMANN
01:34:34>> [MUSIC] [MUSIC]
01:34:46>> YOU WERE PROMISED SOMETHING. WORK HARD, PLAY BY THE RULES,
01:34:47AND YOU'D OWN A HOME, RAISE A FAMILY, AND RETIRE WITH DIGNITY.
01:34:51THAT WAS THE DEAL. IT WAS CALLED THE AMERICAN DREAM. SO WHAT
01:34:53HAPPENED? WELL, IT DIDN'T DIE. IT WAS KILLED. AND WE KNOW WHO
01:34:57DID IT WHEN THEY DID IT AND HOW THEY GOT AWAY WITH IT. WHO
01:35:01KILLED THE AMERICAN DREAM? THE GREATEST POLITICAL CRIME EVER
01:35:04TOLD. A NEW BOOK BY ME, THOM HARTMANN. THAT'S WHO KILLED THE
01:35:07AMERICAN DREAM. THE GREATEST
01:35:10POLITICAL CRIME EVER TOLD
01:35:12>> [MUSIC] >> WELCOME BACK. 34 MINUTES PAST
01:35:16THE HOUR. SO THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT HAS LAUNCHED AN
01:35:19INVESTIGATION INTO WHETHER CBS,
01:35:22ABC, NBC, CNN AND FOX NEWS HAVE
01:35:26ENGAGED IN A CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY THAT COULD RESULT IN MILLIONS OF
01:35:30DOLLARS OF FINES AND ANY OF THEIR EXECUTIVES SPENDING UP TO
01:35:33TEN YEARS IN PRISON UNDER UNDER
01:35:36THE SHERMAN ANTITRUST ACT AND
01:35:39SUBSEQUENT LEGISLATION, THE
01:35:41CLAYTON ANTITRUST ACT OF 1927,
01:35:43THE ANTITRUST ACT OF 1956. NONE
01:35:47OF WHICH HAVE BEEN ENFORCED, BY
01:35:48THE WAY, BY THIS ADMINISTRATION.
01:35:52WE HAD SOME EARLY ENFORCEMENT,
01:35:54SOME EFFORTS TO ENFORCE THOSE ACTS BY LINA KHAN WHEN SHE WAS
01:35:58WORKING AT THE FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION FOR JOE BIDEN. BUT
01:36:02NOW WE'VE GOT ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, STOOGE FOR THE FOR THE
01:36:05BILLIONAIRE CLASS RUNNING THE FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION. AND SO
01:36:08WE'RE JUST LETTING THESE GIANT
01:36:11MONOPOLIES RUN AMOK IN OUR GROCERIES ARE COSTING MORE. AND
01:36:15OUR FUEL IS COSTING BASICALLY EVERYTHING. YOUR INTERNET, UH,
01:36:17YOUR, YOUR CELL PHONE. I MEAN,
01:36:19YOU NAME AN INDUSTRY THAT'S NOT
01:36:22PART OF A, ESSENTIALLY A MONOPOLY OR WHAT'S CALLED MONOPSONY, WHICH IS WHERE YOU
01:36:26HAVE FEWER THAN FIVE COMPANIES
01:36:28THAT CONTROL MORE THAN 80% OF THE MARKET AND ACT LIKE A CARTEL
01:36:31AND FIX PRICES. YOU KNOW, DELTA
01:36:34RAISES THEIR PRICES 2%. AMERICAN DOES FIVE MINUTES LATER. RIGHT.
01:36:37THAT'S THAT'S WHAT A MONOPSONY
01:36:39IS. SO ANYHOW, THEY'RE ACCUSING
01:36:42THESE FIVE NETWORKS OF DOING WHAT THEY'RE ALLOWING ALL THESE
01:36:45OTHER COMPANIES TO DO. AND, AND
01:36:49THE REASON WHY, OF COURSE, IS BECAUSE WHEN TRUMP BANNED
01:36:52POLITICO, CNN, AND MSNBC FROM
01:36:55THE, UH, YOU KNOW, FROM, FROM
01:36:59COVERING HIS WHITE HOUSE, THESE OTHER FIVE NETWORKS SAID, OKAY,
01:37:01THAT'S IT. WE'RE PULLING THE, THE POOL COVERAGE, WHICH THEY
01:37:05ROTATE AND SO THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE IS TRYING TO SAY, WELL,
01:37:09THAT'S A VIOLATION OF THE ANTITRUST LAWS, WHICH IS NOT, BY
01:37:12THE WAY, THE ANTITRUST LAWS. I MEAN, WHO IS THE VICTIM HERE?
01:37:16RIGHT? TRUMP IS CLAIMING THAT HE'S THE VICTIM. I'M SORRY. THE ANTITRUST LAWS DON'T WORK THAT
01:37:20WAY. ANTITRUST LAWS ARE DESIGNED
01:37:21TO PROTECT CONSUMERS. AND I
01:37:25THINK YOU COULD ARGUE THAT THE CONSUMERS ARE THE PEOPLE WATCHING THE NEWS WHO WANT TO
01:37:28KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE TRUMP IS GOING TO
01:37:32TRY AND MAKE AN ARGUMENT THAT BY NOT COVERING HIM, THEY'RE
01:37:35DENYING PEOPLE THAT. BUT, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE PRETTY THIN
01:37:38ICE. I THINK. ALL RIGHT. WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY, JOHN AND
01:37:42CASHMERE, WASHINGTON. HEY, JOHN. >> WHAT'S UP
01:37:46>> TOM. THANKS FOR TAKING MY CALL. >> MY PLEASURE. >> UM, I WONDERED IF I COULD
01:37:49JUST RUN THROUGH A QUICK CHECKLIST OF. WITH A END POINT
01:37:53IN MIND HERE. SURE. UM SO TRUMP
01:37:58AND HIS ADMINISTRATION BLUNDER INTO A WHAT THEY THOUGHT WAS
01:38:02GOING TO BE A CAKEWALK ATTACK ON
01:38:04IRAN. IT WAS, NUMBER ONE. UH,
01:38:08IRAN RETALIATES BY CLOSING THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ, WHICH WAS
01:38:11PRETTY PREDICTABLE. YEAH. UM,
01:38:13OIL AND GAS PRICES START TO
01:38:17CLIMB AND SUPPLIES DROP. ALSO,
01:38:20PREDICTABLE. UM, TRUMP STARTS TO
01:38:22QUIETLY EMPTY THE, UH, STRATEGIC OIL RESERVE. >> RIGHT. IT'S LOWER THAN IT'S
01:38:26EVER BEEN RIGHT NOW.
01:38:29>> TO ARTIFICIALLY LOWER PRICES.
01:38:31AND, AND MAKE HIMSELF LOOK
01:38:34BETTER. UM, REPORTS START TO FILTER OUT THAT THE, UH,
01:38:38APPARENTLY IT'S STORED IN CAVERNS THAT ARE SALT. >> YEAH. SALT CAVERNS. AND YOU
01:38:42CAN'T REPLACE THEM WITH VENEZUELAN OIL, WHICH IS WHAT HE SAYS HE'S GOING TO DO AFTER HE
01:38:46SNATCHED, YOU KNOW, BILLIONS FROM VENEZUELA. AND THAT MONEY
01:38:48IS MISSING, BY THE WAY, FROM THE SALE OF VENEZUELA.
01:38:52>> THE REPORTS. REPORTS LEVELS
01:38:56ARE GETTING SO LOW THAT THE CAVERNS ARE IN DANGER OF
01:39:00COLLAPSING. >> YEAH
01:39:01>> UM, THEN HE TRIES TO FLOAT
01:39:04THE IDEA THAT SOMEHOW THESE PRICES AND SHORTAGES ARE THE FAULT OF THE UKRAINIANS FOR
01:39:07ATTACKING RUSSIA. YEAH. RUSSIAN
01:39:10REFINERIES AND TANKERS. UH, WHEN
01:39:12THAT DIDN'T FLY, HE THEN TRIED
01:39:16TO ASK EUROPEANS TO START EMPTYING THEIR RESERVES, WHICH,
01:39:19OF COURSE, THEY'RE TOO SMART TO DO ACTUALLY.
01:39:23>> A FEW OF THEM ARE, BUT. YEAH.
01:39:28. >> UM, NOW, NOW HE'S, HE'S, UH,
01:39:30ENTERING, TRYING TO ENTER INTO,
01:39:32INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH PUTIN.
01:39:35THE RUSSIANS TO SHIP THEIR OIL TO THE U.S..
01:39:38>> OR THEIR REFINED DIESEL. >> YES. UM, YEAH. THERE. YEAH.
01:39:41UM, I HEARD A COUPLE OTHER INTERESTING THINGS THIS MORNING
01:39:46THAT, UH, ONE WAS THAT WITKOFF.
01:39:47AND, UM, UH, KUSHNER HAD STARTED
01:39:52THE ARRANGEMENTS FOR THIS
01:39:54AGREEMENT A WHILE BACK ON A
01:39:57EARLIER VISIT RUSSIA. YEP. AND ANOTHER INTERESTING THING I HEARD THIS MORNING THAT I
01:40:00HAVEN'T FOUND YET A SOURCE FOR,
01:40:03BUT THAT, UM, THE IRANIANS ARE
01:40:06SHIPPING OVERLAND OIL, GAS
01:40:08SUPPLIES TO RUSSIA. UM, IS ALSO
01:40:14AN INTERESTING WRINKLE THERE. >> YEAH.
01:40:16>> UM, AND THEN THE THIS? AND
01:40:22WE'RE GETTING SUPPLIES FROM
01:40:25RUSSIA. UM OIL TANKERS AND
01:40:28REFINERIES ARE A LEGITIMATE
01:40:30TARGET FOR UKRAINE. UM, WHAT
01:40:33KIND OF SCENARIO DOES IT SET UP WHEN UM RUSSIANS ARE SHIPPING
01:40:37OIL TO US THROUGH, FOR INSTANCE,
01:40:42THE BLACK SEA AND UKRAINE LEGITIMATELY ATTACKS THEM SINCE THEY'RE BEING ATTACKED ON THEIR
01:40:45ENERGY SECTOR. YEAH. WHAT KIND OF INTERESTING SCENARIO DOES
01:40:49THAT SET UP MILITARILY?
01:40:50>> I WOULD BE ASTONISHED IF
01:40:53UKRAINE ATTACKED ANY, ANY PRODUCT THAT WAS DESTINED FOR
01:40:55THE UNITED STATES. I MEAN, ZELENSKY IS JUST NOT THAT DUMB.
01:40:58WHAT HE DID SAY THIS MORNING
01:41:01WAS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE PUTIN IS THE APOLOGIST FOR PUTIN, ARE
01:41:05SAYING, WELL, UKRAINE SHOULD HOLD ELECTIONS. AND, OF COURSE,
01:41:08YOU KNOW, UH, PUTIN WANTS THAT TO HAPPEN BECAUSE HE THINKS HE CAN INFLUENCE THE UKRAINIAN
01:41:12ELECTIONS LIKE HE DID BEFORE. YOU KNOW, HE HE BASICALLY OWNED
01:41:15THE, THE GUY WHO PRECEDED, UH,
01:41:20ZELENSKY. AND, UH, SO ZELENSKY CAME OUT AND SAID, COOL, GIVE ME
01:41:23A 60 DAY CEASE FIRE WHERE YOU DO NOT HIT US AT ALL FOR 60 DAYS.
01:41:27AND WE'LL HOLD ELECTIONS AND
01:41:30RUSSIA IS NOW GOING, WELL, WE DIDN'T REALLY MEAN IT. I MEAN,
01:41:34I'M NOT SURE WE EVEN SAID THAT.
01:41:37>> SO I'D LIKE TO GIVE A LITTLE
01:41:38SHOUT OUT, SHOUT SOMEBODY FROM
01:41:46UKRAINE IS LISTENING THAT HAS ANY INFLUENCE. I'D LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR HITTING THE
01:41:49RUSSIAN DATA CENTERS. UH,
01:41:52BECAUSE APPARENTLY THE BOT TRAFFIC HAS DROPPED DRAMATICALLY.
01:41:55>> ON X TRAFFIC. SUDDENLY YOU'RE
01:41:57NOT GETTING ATTACKED ON X AND FACEBOOK, RIGHT?
01:42:01>> THAT BOT TRAFFIC WOULD WOULD
01:42:03BE USED TO PROP UP THE REPUBLICANS AND TRUMP DURING THE
01:42:06NEXT ELECTION. SO HIT AWAY ZELENSKY. >> YEAH. IT ALSO.
01:42:10>> MAKES EVERY ONE OF THEM YOU CAN. >> YEAH. IT ALSO MAKES ALL THAT
01:42:12BOT TRAFFIC MAKES AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR MARK
01:42:15ZUCKERBERG AND FOR ELON MUSK ON FACEBOOK AND X, BECAUSE, YOU
01:42:19KNOW, THOSE BOTS ARE, UH, PRESUMABLY SEEN ADS IN QUOTES,
01:42:23JUST LIKE ALL THE REST OF US. FASCINATING STUFF. GREAT JOB,
01:42:26GREAT TIMELINE. JOHN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, PAUL AND ZILLAH
01:42:29WASHINGTON. HEY, PAUL, WHAT'S UP
01:42:34>> UH, I'M A BROKEN RECORD. SO FIRST I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT TO
01:42:37SUSIE THAT I OFTEN CALL ON THE SAME SUBJECT. AT MATTEO DOES
01:42:40COMMENT ABOUT IT. OKAY. UH THEN
01:42:44OCTOBER 17th, NO KINGS VOTE EARLY. THIS IS HOW MILLIONS OF
01:42:48PEOPLE RESPOND TO THE MAGA
01:42:50MILITIA. YOU GET OUT ON THE
01:42:53STREET PEACEFULLY AND HOLD UP A
01:42:55SIGN. YEAH. AND I WANT THIS TO BE THE BIGGEST EVENT EVER. EVERY
01:42:58NO KINGS EVENT HAS BROKEN RECORDS FOR THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE
01:43:01ENGAGED IN A PEACEFUL PROTEST,
01:43:03AND I WANT IT TO HAPPEN AGAIN. SO SATURDAY, THEY'RE
01:43:07EVERYWHERE. AND IF THERE ISN'T ONE CLOSE TO YOU, YOU STILL HAVE
01:43:10TIME TO SIGN UP TO BE A HOST.
01:43:13>> THERE YOU GO. AND INDIVISIBLE.ORG. MY RANT. YEAH. WELL DONE PAUL. THANK YOU VERY
01:43:17MUCH. >> NO, KINGS.ORG IS WHERE THIS
01:43:19IS BEING. UH, SO YOU GO TO NO
01:43:22KINGS.ORG. IT WILL HAVE A MAP OF THE UNITED STATES TO HELP YOU
01:43:26FIND THE EVENT NEAR YOU. YOU CLICK ON THE DOT AND IT TAKES YOU TO THE INFORMATION AS TO
01:43:30TIME AND PLACE. >> THANK YOU. PAUL. MARVELOUS PUBLIC SERVICE THAT YOU JUST
01:43:33DID. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ANNIE.
01:43:35IN WATERTOWN, WISCONSIN. HEY,
01:43:37ANNIE, THANKS FOR LISTENING TO WRRD. WHAT'S UP?
01:43:40>> HI. A FEW YEARS AGO, A LADY
01:43:43CALLED FETCHING ABOUT, UH, CORNYN STANDING IN THE FIELDS,
01:43:46AND THE FARMERS. AND. I DON'T KNOW, YOU THOUGHT THAT WAS SMART
01:43:49OF HER AND WHATEVER, AND IT WASN'T. AND I WAS GOING TO CALL
01:43:52THEN. BUT NOW I AM CALLING. UM,
01:43:55FARMERS LEAVE THEIR CORN IN THE
01:43:58FIELDS SOMETIMES TO DRY UP WHEN
01:44:01THEY TAKE IT INTO THEIR CO-OP,
01:44:05YOU KNOW, TO SILO. IT'S MEASURED
01:44:08FOR MOISTURE. UH SO USE LP. YEAH. >> DRY IT. RIGHT. SO THIS WOULD
01:44:12BE FOR CORN THAT'S GOING TO BE USED AS ANIMAL FEED, NOT SWEET
01:44:16CORN THAT HUMANS EAT.
01:44:18>> THERE'S VERY LITTLE SWEET CORN FOR. YEAH. >> YEAH, THAT'S.
01:44:22>> KIND OF, I MEAN, EVERYTHING,
01:44:23EVERYTHING GOES TO, UM, ETHANOL
01:44:28AND >> YEAH. OKAY. >> YEAH. >> PARDON MY INTERRUPTING YOU,
01:44:32ANNIE, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT, MAKE THAT DISTINCTION.
01:44:36>> YEAH. UM, AND SOMETIMES THE FARMERS LEAVE SOME UP FOR DEER
01:44:39HUNTING, YOU KNOW, FOR THE DEER
01:44:41TO HIDE IN. SO THEY KNOW. BUT
01:44:43YEAH, IT STAYS, YOU KNOW, UM, IT'S WHENEVER THEY GET AROUND TO
01:44:47IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOT TO BE JUST WHERE THEY WANT IT. AND WHEN THEY HAVE TIME AND, YOU
01:44:51KNOW, SO LIKE THAT LADY A FEW YEARS AGO WAS THINKING THEY
01:44:54WERE, YOU KNOW, SLOUGHING OFF OR
01:44:58SOMETHING. WHY AREN'T THE FARMERS OUT THERE? YOU KNOW,
01:45:00IT'S LIKE, WELL, NO, THEY GOT
01:45:03TO BE, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST RIPE.
01:45:07AND, AND DRY LOOKING. IT'S GOT TO BE DRY ALL THE WAY THROUGH AS
01:45:10MUCH DON'T GET AS MUCH MONEY.
01:45:14IF THE CO-OP'S GOT TO SPEND A LOT OF LP TO DRY. >> IT, RIGHT. BECAUSE THEY
01:45:16DON'T WANT TO SPEND MONEY ON WATER, BASICALLY. YEAH, IT MAKES
01:45:19PERFECT SENSE. ANNIE, I AND
01:45:21THANK YOU FOR CONFIRMING MY BELIEF THAT THIS SHOW HAS THE
01:45:25SMARTEST LISTENERS IN THE WORLD.
01:45:26ANNIE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE INFORMATION. I APPRECIATE THE
01:45:30CALL. IT'S GREAT TO HEAR FROM
01:45:32YOU. IT'S JUST ABOUT 45 MINUTES PAST THE HOUR. WE'LL BE IN JUST A COUPLE SECONDS. WE'LL BE RIGHT
01:45:36BACK WITH MORE OF YOUR CALLS IN
01:45:38JUST A MINUTE. STAY WITH US.
01:45:41>> [MUSIC]
01:45:49>> YOU'RE LISTENING TO THOM
01:45:52HARTMANN. VISIT THOM
01:45:54HARTMANN.COM FOR AUDIO AND VIDEO ARCHIVES. >> EXPOSING THE CON IN
01:45:58CONSERVATIVE. I'LL BE RIGHT BACK
01:45:59WITH YOU
01:46:06>> [MUSIC]
01:46:16>> AND WELCOME BACK, BYRON. IN BATON ROUGE, LOUISIANA. BYRON,
01:46:20WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY
01:46:23>> TOM. UM, I WANTED TO TALK
01:46:25ABOUT THE 2016 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION WITH BERNIE SANDERS.
01:46:29IF, IF HE HAD BEEN THE NOMINEE. WELL, FIRST OF ALL, HE WASN'T
01:46:33THE NOMINEE. THEY THEY ANOINTED HILLARY. YOU KNOW, THE SUPERDELEGATES. IT WAS MY
01:46:37UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT BERNIE TO BE THE NOMINEE.
01:46:41IF HE HAD BEEN THE NOMINEE, HE WOULD HAVE BEATEN TRUMP. HE WOULD HAVE WON THE POPULAR VOTE
01:46:45LIKE HILLARY DID. BUT HE ALSO WOULD HAVE WON THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE VOTE, AND HE WOULD HAVE
01:46:48WON REELECTION IN 2020, BECAUSE
01:46:51HE WOULD HAVE HANDLED COVID BETTER THAN TRUMP DID. AND SO WE
01:46:54WOULD HAVE HAD EIGHT YEARS OF
01:46:56BERNIE SANDERS. AND JUST THINK OF THE IMPLICATIONS OF THAT, HOW
01:47:00THIS COUNTRY WOULD BE DIFFERENT. NOW, WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO DEAL
01:47:03WITH THE TARIFFS. THE IRAN WAR, THE MASSIE, ICE AGENTS, THE
01:47:07THREE SUPREME COURT JUSTICES THAT TRUMP NOMINATED THAT GUTTED
01:47:10THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT AND OVERTURNED ROE V WADE. THE
01:47:13THREE, YOU KNOW, THE TWO IMPEACHMENTS OF TRUMP, THE
01:47:17EPSTEIN FILES, THE ALIGNMENT WITH PUTIN. JUST THINK HOW THIS
01:47:20COUNTRY WOULD BE SO MUCH BETTER
01:47:22OFF IF WE HAD JUST NOMINATED
01:47:25BERNIE SANDERS IN 2016, INSTEAD OF HILLARY TO RUN AGAINST TRUMP,
01:47:28AND TRUMP WOULD HAVE DISAPPEARED. AND IT'S THE
01:47:31DEMOCRATS FAULT. THEY ALLOW
01:47:33TRUMP TO BE, YOU KNOW, PRESIDENT, BECAUSE THEY NOMINATED. THEY NOMINATED
01:47:37HILLARY. AND ALL HER MESSAGE WAS, IS I'M A WOMAN AND I'M NOT
01:47:40TRUMP. SO VOTE FOR ME. >> I THINK. >> IT'S IMPORTANT. IN THE END, BERNIE WOULD HAVE BEEN
01:47:44DIFFERENT. HE WOULD HAVE BEATEN TRUMP EASILY IN THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE. AND HE WOULD TRUMP.
01:47:47>> YOU'RE GETTING REDUNDANT HERE. BUT BYRON, I AGREE WITH
01:47:51YOUR ANALYSIS. UM, HILLARY DID
01:47:54GET 3 MILLION MORE VOTES THAN DONALD TRUMP DID IN 2016. IT'S
01:47:58JUST THAT SHE. >> DIDN'T AGREE. >> WITH THAT. COLLEGE. UM, BUT
01:48:02MY TAKE ON THIS IS THAT
01:48:06BASICALLY SINCE 2005, ROUGHLY,
01:48:09OR 2006, AMERICA HAS BEEN
01:48:12WANTING A CHANGE AWAY FROM THE,
01:48:15THE, THE REAGANISM ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE AND
01:48:18NEOLIBERALISM ON THE, ON THE CLINTON SIDE, ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE, AND WANTED.
01:48:22>> THEY GOT THAT WITH BERNIE. >> AND. EXACTLY. AMERICA HAS
01:48:26WANTED TO RETURN TO FDR, NEW
01:48:28DEAL, YOU KNOW, ECONOMICS THAT BUILT THE FIRST AND LARGEST,
01:48:32MORE THAN 50% OF THE COUNTRY, MIDDLE CLASS IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD. AND WE'RE NOW DOWN TO
01:48:3641% OF US BEING IN THE MIDDLE
01:48:39CLASS. UM, AND, AND, AND BERNIE,
01:48:41WAS THAT CHANGE AGENT. AND DONALD TRUMP MARKETED HIMSELF AS THAT CHANGE AGENT. AND THAT'S
01:48:45WHY HE ENDED UP IN THE WHITE HOUSE. AND, AND CLINTON DID NOT,
01:48:48SHE DID NOT MARKET HERSELF AS A CHANGE AGENT. SHE MARKETED
01:48:52HERSELF AS THE STATUS QUO, YOU KNOW, STRONG AND STEADY AND, YOU
01:48:55KNOW, WELL EXPERIENCED AND ALL THAT KIND OF THING. UM, AND, UH,
01:48:58IT WAS JUST, IT WAS THE WRONG
01:49:00TIME. AND, AND SAME THING. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, OBAMA CAME ALONG
01:49:04HOPE AND CHANGE, RIGHT? PEOPLE WANTED A CHANGE AGENT. AND THEN,
01:49:07YOU KNOW, HE DIDN'T, HE KIND OF,
01:49:09YOU KNOW, DIDN'T DELIVER ALL
01:49:11THAT MUCH AS, AS, UM, ABDUL
01:49:14EL-SAYED HAS POINTED OUT AND, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS HURTING HIM,
01:49:18I THINK. UM, BUT IT'S TRUE. AND,
01:49:21UH, YOU KNOW, JOE BIDEN, ON THE OTHER HAND, GOT A HELL OF A LOT
01:49:25DONE IN HIS FOUR YEARS. AND IF
01:49:27HE HAD KEPT HIS WORD AND JUST
01:49:30SAID, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY. AND, YOU
01:49:32KNOW, WE GET A STRONG CANDIDATE, WE WOULD, I BELIEVE WE WOULD
01:49:35HAVE GOTTEN A GOOD, STRONG,
01:49:37PROGRESSIVE, YOU KNOW, RUNNING
01:49:40IN 2024. AND THEY WOULD HAVE EATEN TRUMP'S LUNCH. BUT WHAT CAN YOU DO? I MEAN, THIS, UH, AT
01:49:44A CERTAIN POINT, BYRON, SOUR
01:49:47GRAPES JUST, YOU KNOW, DON'T TASTE GOOD. YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT
01:49:51TO. >> YEAH. I MEAN, YOU CAN'T CHANGE THE PAST. >> YEAH. WE GOT TO MOVE BEYOND
01:49:54IT. I WAS, I WAS PLEASED WHEN
01:49:56DONNA BRAZILE AND HER AUTOBIOGRAPHY APOLOGIZED TO
01:49:59BERNIE FOR HER ROLE IN SABOTAGING HIM IN 2016. BYRON,
01:50:03THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE CALL. NICE TO HEAR FROM YOU. IT'S 49 MINUTES PAST THE HOUR.
01:50:07I'LL BE BACK WITH MORE OF YOUR
01:50:09CALLS IN JUST ONE MINUTE. STAY WITH US.
01:50:12>> [MUSIC]
01:50:32>> HEY, THANKS SO MUCH FOR SHARING OUR PROGRAM AND FOR
01:50:36REACHING OUT TO OUR STATIONS AND SPONSORS AND LETTING THEM KNOW THAT YOU'RE LISTENING. IT
01:50:38REALLY MEANS A LOT TO US. SO MAGA, MIKE AND THE REPUBLICANS
01:50:42WANT A RELIGIOUS TEST FOR PEOPLE RUNNING FOR PUBLIC OFFICE. THEY
01:50:46WANT TO KNOW THAT YOU ARE SUFFICIENTLY CHRISTIAN TO BE
01:50:50WORTHY OF BEING ELECTED WRIGHT
01:50:53MAGA MIKE IS ONE OF THESE SEVEN
01:50:55MOUNTAIN EVANGELICALS. THERE ARE
01:50:58SEVEN DOMAINS WHERE THESE DOMINIONISTS BELIEVE THAT WE
01:51:00NEED TO HAVE RELIGION COMPLETELY TAKE THEM OVER EDUCATION,
01:51:03RELIGION, FAMILY, BUSINESS, GOVERNMENT, MILITARY, ARTS AND
01:51:07ENTERTAINMENT, AND THE MEDIA. SERIOUSLY, THIS IS NOT WHAT
01:51:11JESUS WAS PREACHING WHEN HE SAID, GIVE UNTO CAESAR WHAT IS
01:51:14CAESAR? AND ONTO ON TO GOD. WHAT IS GOD'S? THIS IS THE OPPOSITE,
01:51:18IN FACT, OF WHAT JESUS WAS TEACHING. IT'S THE OPPOSITE OF
01:51:21MATTHEW 25, WHERE JESUS SAID,
01:51:23THE ONLY WAY TO GET TO HEAVEN IS
01:51:26BY FEEDING THE HUNGRY, HEALING THE SICK, HELPING THE POOR.
01:51:28IT'S. THIS IS COUNTER CHRISTIAN ANTI-CHRISTIAN. IN FACT. IN
01:51:32FACT, I THINK YOU COULD SAY IT
01:51:36IS THE ANTICHRIST'S WORK. THERE'S A PIECE ABOUT IT OVER
01:51:39HARTMAN REPORT.COM. CHECK IT OUT.
01:51:42>> [MUSIC] >> WELCOME BACK. NINE MINUTES
01:51:46BEFORE THE HOUR. PETE IN
01:51:47CHICAGO. HEY, PETE. WHAT'S UP
01:51:54>> CALLING ON ILHAN OMAR. AND THIS SEARCH WARRANT THAT WAS
01:51:57ISSUED. IT HAS ALL THE EARMARKS
01:51:59OF BEING, UM, FROM THE FOREIGN
01:52:03INTELLIGENCE SURVEILLANCE COURT,
01:52:04WHICH IS A SECRET STAR CHAMBER
01:52:08COURT, 11 SITTING JUDGES, ALL
01:52:10APPOINTED BY, YOU GUESSED IT,
01:52:14JOHN ROBERTS, INFLUENCING OUR
01:52:19ELECTION WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THE ELECTION. AND THE ONE THING THAT
01:52:22WE CAN AND SHOULD DO IS FIND OUT
01:52:24WHICH OF THESE 11 JUDGES ISSUED
01:52:27THAT SEARCH WARRANT AND BRING
01:52:32SUNLIGHT TO THIS SECRET STAR CHAMBER COURT. >> THAT'S RIGHT. WE'RE WITHIN.
01:52:35I MEAN, JAMES COMEY DID THE SAME THING TO HILLARY CLINTON IN
01:52:392016. WE'RE WITHIN 90 DAYS OF
01:52:40THE ELECTION. THIS IS WHEN THE DOJ POLICY IS EVEN IF YOU'VE GOT
01:52:44EVIDENCE AGAINST SOMEBODY, YOU DON'T. YOU DON'T EXPLOIT IT
01:52:47UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION.
01:52:50>> EXACTLY.
01:52:53>> YEAH. REMARKABLE. UM, YOU DON'T WE DON'T KNOW THAT THIS
01:52:57WAS A FISA COURT WARRANT, THOUGH. >> DO WE KNOW? >> BUT IT'S SECRET. AND
01:53:01NORMALLY THE SEARCH WARRANT
01:53:03WOULD BE PUBLICLY DISCLOSED IN
01:53:05THE CASE OF FISA. THEY ARE
01:53:08SECRET ORDERS. AND THAT'S WHY
01:53:11I'M MAKING THAT. I ASSUMPTION.
01:53:14BUT ANY OTHER COURT, IT WOULD BE A PUBLIC ORDER. >> THAT'S INTERESTING. WELL, IT'S GOING TO BE FASCINATING TO
01:53:17SEE HOW THIS PLAYS OUT. PETE. THANKS. THANKS FOR THAT. THANKS
01:53:19FOR THE CALL. LINDA IN AUBURN,
01:53:22WASHINGTON. HEY, LINDA, WHAT'S
01:53:25UP >> UM, WHEN BILL MCKIBBEN WAS
01:53:27ON, I JUST WANT TO GET THIS IDEA OUT TO HIM AND OTHER LISTENERS
01:53:31RELATED TO WHAT HE WAS SAYING. HE WAS SAYING, WE HAVE TO, YOU
01:53:34KNOW, GET RID OF FOSSIL FUELS.
01:53:36WELL, WE CAN'T DO THAT JUST IMMEDIATELY. BUT WHAT WE CAN DO
01:53:40IS HAVE THE CAPTURING CARBON,
01:53:43CAPTURING OR FUEL EMISSION
01:53:47CAPTURING TANKS ON OUR CARS, AND THEY'RE ALREADY BEING DEVELOPED
01:53:50FOR SEMI TRUCKS. AND PEOPLE CAN WORK WITHIN THEIR CITY, BECAUSE
01:53:53A LOT OF CITIES, UM, SAID, WE WANT TO FOLLOW THE KYOTO
01:53:56PROTOCOL. SO WE JUST, WE CAN
01:53:58HAVE SOME HOPE IF WE SEE SOME
01:54:01RESULTS. AND THEY HAVE TO BE
01:54:04EMPTY FAIRLY OFTEN, BUT A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE WILL VOLUNTARILY
01:54:08DO THAT IF THEY HAVE THE DATA THAT YOU CAN GET FROM BILL
01:54:10MCKIBBEN OR YALE CENTER FOR
01:54:12ENVIRONMENT. WHY, WHY WE NEED TO
01:54:15CAPTURE IT IS SO THAT WE DON'T
01:54:18HAVE STUFF IN THE AIR WITH THEIR GEOENGINEERING, AND WE DON'T
01:54:22HAVE IT SO WARM THAT METHANE STARTS. >> YEAH. I THINK.
01:54:25>> I THINK AT THE SAME TIME, LINDA, IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT THE BIGGEST
01:54:29PROPONENTS OF CARBON CAPTURE AND STORAGE ARE THE FOSSIL FUEL
01:54:33COMPANIES. AND THEY HAVE FUNDED HUGE CAMPAIGNS, PARTICULARLY ON
01:54:37SOCIAL MEDIA, TO PROMOTE THE IDEA THAT THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO DO. AND IT'S A WAY OF
01:54:41SHIFTING THE CONVERSATION AWAY FROM, WE NEED TO BURN FEWER
01:54:44FOSSIL FUELS. THAT'S THEIR WHOLE GOAL. >> I THINK. >> SO I.
01:54:48>> THINK IT WILL HELP PEOPLE SEE HOW.
01:54:50>> HOW, WHAT A HASSLE IT IS TO EMPTY YOUR TANK ALL THE TIME,
01:54:54AND THEY'LL WANT TO GO TO SOLAR. BUT NOT EVERYBODY CAN RIGHT AWAY.
01:54:57>> NO, I GET IT. AND WE DO NEED TO BE CAPTURING CARBON WHERE
01:55:00WE'RE PRODUCING IT. THANK YOU. LINDA. DAN IN RENO, NEVADA. HEY,
01:55:03DAN, WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY? >> HOW'VE YOU BEEN, SIR? HOPE
01:55:06THINGS ARE WELL. YEAH. SO I
01:55:10WANTED TO COME AT YOU WITH, UH,
01:55:12ANOTHER RANCH. SOCIALISM. AND
01:55:14HOW COMMUNISTS USE IT IS ALL
01:55:20AMERICANS PAYING FOR OUR
01:55:23MILITARY. ALL AMERICANS ARE ALL
01:55:25STATE INDIVIDUALS PAYING FOR
01:55:27THEIR NATIONAL GUARD. >> AND THEIR POLICE DEPARTMENT
01:55:30AND THEIR FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THEIR PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND THEIR PUBLIC LIBRARIES. THESE ARE ALL
01:55:35SOCIALIST INSTITUTIONS. YES, ABSOLUTELY.
01:55:37>> AGREE, SIR. SO NOW THE
01:55:39COMMUNISM SIDE IS WHEN TRUMP
01:55:42USED OUR MILITARY TO GO DOWN TO VENEZUELA, KICK THE LEADER OUT,
01:55:46AND THEN WHEN YOU CAPTURED THE
01:55:48OIL, TOOK THE MONEY, PUT IT IN
01:55:51QATAR, 500 MILLION, AND NOW HAS
01:55:5416 OR 13 BILLION AT CITIBANK
01:55:58COLLECTING INTEREST THAT HE CONTROLS. >> YEAH, I WOULDN'T CALL IT COMMUNISM. I'D CALL THAT, UH,
01:56:01YOU KNOW DICTATORSHIP OR, YOU
01:56:05KNOW, THE OLD FASHIONED AMERICAN IMPERIALISM STUFF THAT WE THOUGHT WE HAD LEFT BEHIND, YOU
01:56:09KNOW, GENERATIONS AGO. UM, YOU KNOW, COMMUNISM, IF YOU WANT
01:56:13COMMUNISM THAT TRUMP IS DOING, THAT'S THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
01:56:16BUYING A POSITION IN OVER 20
01:56:18COMPANIES, MAYBE OVER 30 COMPANIES. NOW, WE'VE NEVER DONE
01:56:22THIS BEFORE. WE'VE SEIZED THEM
01:56:24DURING LIKE WORLD WAR ONE AND WORLD WAR TWO. UM, BUT HE'S GOT,
01:56:28HE'S TAKING OUR TAXPAYER
01:56:30DOLLARS AND BUYING, I MEAN, INTEL, HE BOUGHT A BIG CHUNK OF
01:56:33INTEL, IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY, THAT'S COMMUNISM.
01:56:37COMMUNISM IS WHERE THE STATE
01:56:39CONTROLS OR OWNS PART OF THE
01:56:42MEANS OF PRODUCTION. AND, UH, AND TRUMP IS THE FIRST PRESIDENT
01:56:45TO DO THIS. SO, UM, IF YOU'RE
01:56:47LOOKING FOR A COMMUNIST, THAT THAT WOULD BE THE PARTICULAR
01:56:51LEAF TO LOOK UNDER. DAN. THANK YOU. WELL SAID. BILL IN SANTA MONICA. HEY, BILL, I JUST HAVE A
01:56:55MINUTE HERE. YOU GOT A QUICK ONE?
01:56:58>> YEAH. TOM, UH, YOU AND OTHER
01:57:01PEOPLE WITH TALK ABOUT THIS
01:57:06COUNTRY IS IN DANGER OF LOSING
01:57:07THEIR DEMOCRACY. AND PEOPLE ARE
01:57:11STARTING TO LISTEN. AND TRUMP IS MAKING THEM LISTEN, BASICALLY,
01:57:14WITH HIS ANTICS. THE SUCCESSFUL DEMOCRACY IS NOT CRUZ, BUT
01:57:18DEMOCRACIES HAVE BEEN IN PLACES. AMERICAN REVOLUTION AND FRENCH
01:57:21REVOLUTION REVOLUTION, RUSSIAN REVOLUTION, CHINESE AND CUBAN.
01:57:25NONE OF THOSE COUNTRIES BELIEVE
01:57:27THAT THEY HAD A DEMOCRACY. AND,
01:57:31UM, IF TRUMP SCREWS AROUND WITH OUR ELECTIONS, I THINK PEOPLE,
01:57:33HE SHOULD BE AWARE OF THAT, BECAUSE I THINK PEOPLE WILL
01:57:36START TO UNDERSTAND THAT MAYBE
01:57:39WE DON'T HAVE A DEMOCRACY. AND THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE SOME KIND
01:57:42OF REVOLUTION.
01:57:46>> KNOW, THE IDEA OF AMERICANS TURNING GUNS ON EACH OTHER IS NOT SOMETHING THAT I WOULD, YOU
01:57:50KNOW, THAT ANY OF US. I DON'T MEAN.
01:57:53>> I DON'T MEAN A CIVIL WAR, NECESSARILY, BUT I MEAN A
01:57:56REVOLUTION. YEAH. PEOPLE IN THE
01:57:57STREETS, STOPPING JOBS. YEAH. I DON'T NECESSARILY. IT COULD BE
01:58:01A POSSIBLE SITE OF CIVIL WAR.
01:58:03THIS IS NOT LIKE OUR COUNTRY WAS DIVIDED IN 1865.
01:58:07>> I GET IT, BILL. BILL, THANK YOU FOR THE CALL. UM, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BREAK, ACTOR
01:58:10MIMI KENNEDY WILL BE WITH US.
01:58:12STICK AROUND
01:58:15>> [MUSIC]
01:58:19>> YOU'RE LISTENING TO THOM
01:58:49>> [MUSIC]
01:59:22>> YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALL GOTTEN SO USED TO LIVING IN A COUNTRY
01:59:26WHERE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO CROWDFUND, LIKE CANCER RESEARCH
01:59:29FOR CHILDREN. SAINT JUDE'S IS A WONDERFUL CHARITY, BUT WE'RE THE
01:59:32ONLY DEVELOPED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD THAT NEEDS, YOU KNOW,
01:59:36WHERE YOU HAVE TO GO TO PEOPLE AND BEG FOR MONEY IN ORDER TO,
01:59:39TO TREAT CHILDREN WITH CANCER, OR SHRINERS. I MEAN, ANOTHER
01:59:43GREAT CHARITY. BUT SHOULDN'T WE
01:59:45ALL BE FUNDING CHILDREN WHO ARE
01:59:48BORN WITH BIRTH DEFECTS AND
01:59:50PROBLEMS LIKE THAT? UM, WE'RE,
01:59:52WE'RE PROBABLY THE ONLY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD WHERE YOU CAN SELL
01:59:55YOUR LIFE INSURANCE POLICY, BECAUSE SOCIAL SECURITY DOESN'T
01:59:58COVER YOUR RETIREMENT. I MEAN, IT'S PROBABLY NOT HAPPENING
02:00:00ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD OR REVERSE MORTGAGE YOUR HOME BECAUSE YOU, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T
02:00:04AFFORD IT. I MEAN, THIS IS CRAZY
02:00:07THAT WE ARE LIVING IN A COUNTRY
02:00:09WHERE NO KID HUNGRY, A CHARITY,
02:00:12YOU CAN READ ALL ABOUT IT. THERE'S A WHOLE OP ED. I WROTE
02:00:15ABOUT THIS OVER AT HARTMAN REPORT.COM. IT'S TITLED AMERICA'S SICKEST REALITY SHOW,
02:00:18CROWDFUNDING CANCER CARE. WHILE BILLIONAIRES HOARD BILLIONS.
02:00:22CHECK IT OUT
02:00:44HEY, WELCOME BACK TO OUR C-SPAN
02:00:47VIEWERS. UH, THE FOOD AND DRUG
02:00:50ADMINISTRATION MAY ALLOW SOME TOXIC CHEMICALS TO BE ADDED TO
02:00:53YOUR FOOD WITHOUT A SAFETY REVIEW. THIS IS A WILD STORY.
02:00:56UM, BOB KENNEDY, THE, THE, UH,
02:00:58YOU KNOW, BRAIN WORM, FORMER
02:01:02HEROIN AND SEX ADDICT, UH,
02:01:03LAWYER WHO IS IN CHARGE OF OUR
02:01:07HEALTH AND OUR DOCTORS, UM, WAS
02:01:10RECENTLY BRAGGING IN A PROMISES
02:01:12KEPT, UH, STATEMENT IN AUGUST
02:01:16THAT HE HAD CLOSED SOME LOOPHOLES AROUND THE GENERALLY
02:01:19REGARDED AS SAFE OR GRAS DESIGNATION FOR SOME THINGS IN
02:01:22OUR, IN OUR FOOD SUPPLY AND OUR SUPPLEMENTS AND THINGS LIKE
02:01:26THAT. UM, BUT WHAT HE DIDN'T
02:01:32MENTION IS THAT THIS NEW GRASS
02:01:35REGULATION EXPANDS SOMETHING
02:01:38CALLED TOR OR THRESHOLD OF
02:01:41REGULATION. NOW, WHAT? UH, WITHOUT GETTING TOO COMPLICATED
02:01:44HERE, WHAT THIS HAS TO DO WITH
02:01:46IS CHEMICALS THAT HAVE EXTREME
02:01:52EFFECTS IN TINY QUANTITIES. THIS
02:01:54WOULD BE LIKE THE PHTHALATES,
02:01:56LIKE THE PFAS, THE, THE, THESE
02:02:00FOREVER CHEMICALS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, GET INTO OUR FOOD SUPPLY THROUGH OUR, THROUGH, MOSTLY
02:02:04THROUGH FOOD PACKAGING, UM, THROUGH THE, YOU KNOW, THE CARRY
02:02:08HOME PACKS YOU GET FROM THE RESTAURANT, THEY'RE LINED WITH
02:02:10THIS STUFF. UM, YOU KNOW, A ET
02:02:16CETERA. SO, AND, AND THE BIG ONE IS, UH, ROCKET FUEL, WHICH MAKES
02:02:20IT PERCHLORATE, WHICH MAKES ITS WAY INTO THE WATER SUPPLY AND
02:02:23CAN SHOW UP IN PARTS, YOU KNOW,
02:02:26THAT ARE WAY BELOW 0.5 PARTS PER
02:02:28BILLION AND STILL CAUSE SERIOUS
02:02:32PROBLEMS. UM, HORMONE DISRUPTORS LINKED TO BRAIN DAMAGE AND
02:02:35REPRODUCTIVE HARM IN CHILDREN.
02:02:37UM, SO ANYHOW, WHAT, WHAT
02:02:40HAPPENED WAS THERE, THERE WAS THIS STANDARD THRESHOLD OF REGULATION. IN OTHER WORDS, IF
02:02:44A, IF A CHEMICAL THAT COULD BE DESTRUCTIVE TO US, IT COULD
02:02:48CAUSE NEUROLOGICAL DAMAGE OR
02:02:50CANCER OR OTHER OTHER PROBLEMS. IF THE LEVELS OF THAT CHEMICAL
02:02:54IN OUR FOOD SUPPLY WERE ABOVE
02:02:56THIS THRESHOLD, WHICH WAS 0.5
02:03:02PARTS PER BILLION, UM, IF THEY WERE ABOVE THAT THRESHOLD, THEN YOU GOT A PROBLEM. YOU CAN'T PUT
02:03:06IT IN. IF IT'S BELOW THAT THRESHOLD, THEN IT'S ESSENTIALLY
02:03:09UNREGULATED. AND AS I SAID,
02:03:12THERE'S A BUNCH OF CHEMICALS THAT EVEN AT LEVELS LOWER THAN
02:03:16THAT, ARE JUST DEFINITELY,
02:03:18ABSOLUTELY NOT GOOD FOR US. SO
02:03:22WHAT BOB KENNEDY DID WAS EXPAND
02:03:27THE, THE, BASICALLY THE LOOPHOLE, YOU KNOW, TOR IS LIKE A LOOPHOLE. IT'S, IT'S, YOU
02:03:31KNOW, THIS THRESHOLD OF REGULATION. AND TOM PERKINS,
02:03:34WRITING OVER AT THE GUARDIAN, HE
02:03:36WRITES THE NEW PROPOSED TOUR EXPANSION WOULD ALLOW COMPANIES
02:03:39TO USE THE CHEMICALS AS AN INGREDIENT ADDED DIRECTLY TO
02:03:43FOOD. NOW, PRIOR, IT WAS, YOU
02:03:45KNOW, LIKE, OKAY, IT ENDS UP IN THE FOOD BECAUSE OF PACKAGING OR
02:03:48SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF INCIDENTAL TO THE
02:03:52PROCESS OF PRODUCING THE FOOD,
02:03:54UH, OR THE, THE, THE ROCKET FUEL WAS IN THE WATER THAT WAS USED
02:03:58TO, TO IRRIGATE THE PLANTS,
02:04:00THINGS LIKE THAT. SO ANYHOW,
02:04:03BACK TO THAT PARAGRAPH. THE NEW PROPOSED TOUR EXPANSION WOULD
02:04:06ALLOW COMPANIES TO USE THE CHEMICALS AS AN INGREDIENT AT A
02:04:10DIRECTLY TO FOOD AS FLAVORINGS, PRESERVATIVES, EMULSIFIERS,
02:04:13PROCESSING AIDS, ENZYMES, STABILIZERS, AND BINDERS, AND
02:04:16FOR MYRIAD OTHER USES, INCLUDING
02:04:21CREATING ULTRA PROCESSED FOOD.
02:04:24SO KENNEDY DID NOT MENTION, AND THE FDA DID NOT MENTION IN THEIR
02:04:27PR MATERIAL, THAT THE PROPOSED GRASSLEY RULE THAT THEY HAVE,
02:04:31UH, SUBMITTED QUIETLY TO THE
02:04:33FEDERAL REGISTER INCLUDES THIS
02:04:36EXPANSION OF TAU. AND THIS,
02:04:40AGAIN, THIS IS FROM TOM PERKINS
02:04:42PIECE OVER IN THE GUARDIAN. UM, ADVOCATES SAY THE PROBLEM LIES
02:04:45IN THE DEFINITION OF APPRECIABLE
02:04:49RISK CHEMICALS LIKE PERCHLORATE, SOME PHTHALATES, SOME
02:04:52BISPHENOLS, SOME PFAS FOREVER CHEMICALS, AND SOME FLAME
02:04:55RETARDANTS ARE NOT CLASSIFIED AS CARCINOGENIC. BUT THEY CAN CAUSE
02:04:59HARM AT DOSES FAR LOWER THAN 0.5
02:05:03PARTS PER BILLION. THESE COULD, IN THEORY, NOW BE USED AS
02:05:07INGREDIENTS, AS INGREDIENTS. IN OTHER WORDS, THEY COULD. THEY
02:05:10COULD BE ACTUALLY ADDED TO OUR
02:05:13FOOD, NOT ACCIDENTALLY. OR INCIDENTALLY, YOU KNOW, SHOWING UP IN OUR FOOD. UH, THESE, IN
02:05:16THEORY, COULD BE USED AS INGREDIENTS, AS COULD CHEMICALS
02:05:20THAT ARE NEUROTOXIC CAUSE BRAIN DAMAGE, ATTACK THE IMMUNE
02:05:23SYSTEM, HARM THE MICROBIOTA, OR
02:05:25GIVE RISE TO ANY NUMBER OF OTHER
02:05:29ADVERSE HEALTH EFFECTS. HE QUOTES A EXPERT IN THIS FIELD,
02:05:32AND SAID THAT SHE WAS PARTICULARLY CONCERNED ABOUT FLAVORINGS BECAUSE ULTRA
02:05:36PROCESSED FOOD COMPANIES USE CHEMICALS THAT, QUOTE, PLAY AROUND WITH THE NERVOUS SYSTEM
02:05:40AND RECEPTORS IN YOUR MOUTH TO
02:05:43TRY TO MAKE US EAT MORE AND MORE
02:05:45OF SOMETHING. SO, UH, AND ONE OF
02:05:49THE, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS IS THAT
02:05:51PERCHLORATE, THIS ROCKET FUEL, THAT'S SO, SO REALLY AWFUL,
02:05:54PARTICULARLY FOR CHILDREN. UM,
02:06:00IS SHOWING UP IN CHILDREN'S CEREAL, UH, >> BACK IN 2005, GERMAN CHEMICAL
02:06:03GIANT BASF USED TOR TO EXEMPT PERCHLORATE FROM REGULATIONS FOR
02:06:07USE IN SUPERSAX. THESE ARE ONE TON POLYPROPYLENE, PLASTIC
02:06:10STORAGE BAGS. AND THEY SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT AN
02:06:13EXCEPTION. IT'S JUST. BUT IT
02:06:16STOPS GRAINS FROM STICKING TO SUPER STACKS. SO THE GRAINS ARE
02:06:20LOADED AND EMPTIED INTO SACKS AT
02:06:21HIGH VELOCITY, WHICH CAN CAUSE THE PERCHLORATE AND
02:06:25MICROPLASTICS TO BREAK OFF. SO PERCHLORATE REDUCES THE THYROID
02:06:29GLAND'S ABILITY TO ABSORB
02:06:31IODINE, WHICH IS NEEDED TO
02:06:34PRODUCE THE HORMONE T4. SO WILD STUFF. THANK YOU, BOB KENNEDY, I
02:06:37GUESS SARCASTICALLY. ALL RIGHT. WELL, JOE IS BEGINNING. WE'LL BE
02:06:40RIGHT BACK.
02:06:53>> EVERYBODY.
02:06:55>> MIMI KENNEDY, THE ACTRESS,
02:06:59AUTHOR, ACTIVIST, MEMBER OF THE PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRATS OF
02:07:02AMERICA, PT AMERICA.ORG BOARD.
02:07:03AS I RECALL, MIMI KENNEDY, LA ON
02:07:07TWITTER. UH, VOTERS CALENDAR.ORG
02:07:10WEBSITE. MIMI. WELCOME BACK. TELL US ABOUT THIS.
02:07:14>> UM, IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. AND I LOVE SEEING THE
02:07:17GLACIER LAKES AND THE SUNRISE
02:07:20AND THE WOODS. I'M ASSUMING THAT'S SUNRISE. UH, VOTERS,
02:07:23CALENDAR.ORG IS, UH, TIM
02:07:26CARPENTER INSTITUTE PROJECT. IT'S NONPARTISAN NONPROFIT. TIM
02:07:30CARPENTER WAS THE FOUNDER OF
02:07:32PDA, AND HE'S BEEN ABSENT FROM
02:07:35THIS PLANET SINCE 2014. BUT, UM,
02:07:38IT IS A CLICKABLE MAP. YOU FIND
02:07:40YOUR STATE, YOU CLICK ON IT, AND YOU WILL BE TAKEN TO ALL THE
02:07:44INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED. AND ONE OF THE THINGS I REALLY LIKE
02:07:48ABOUT THIS IS THEY HAVE TAKEN UP MY SUGGESTION, FIRM SUGGESTION
02:07:51THAT WHEN YOU CHECK YOUR REGISTRATION, IF YOU, AND WHEN
02:07:55YOU, I HOPE, FIND IT, TAKE A
02:07:58SCREENSHOT. BECAUSE MY WHOLE MESSAGE, THIS ELECTION CYCLE IS.
02:08:01EACH OF US IS RESPONSIBLE FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PROOF OF WHAT
02:08:05WE CAN'T CONTROL. YOU KNOW, I PLAYED A 12 STEP COUNSELOR FOR
02:08:08EIGHT YEARS ON TV. I LEARNED A LOT ABOUT THAT. AND THE SURRENDERED PRAYER IS, YOU KNOW,
02:08:11GIVE ME THE SERENITY, BUT THE
02:08:14THINGS I CAN CHANGE DO THAT. SO,
02:08:17UM, THIS YEAR, DO WHATEVER YOU CAN TO HAVE PROOF OF YOUR
02:08:20REGISTRATION. SHOULD ANY QUESTION ARISE. YOU GOT IT ON YOUR PHONE OR, YOU KNOW, YOU
02:08:24HAVE A PICTURE OF IT HERE. IT WAS TIME DATED. IT WAS THERE. I
02:08:28GET TO VOTE. UM, THE OTHER
02:08:31THINGS THAT IT WILL HAVE AS TIME
02:08:33GOES ON, UH, ARE MORE VOTER INFORMATION, BUT IT TAKES YOU TO
02:08:37YOUR SECRETARY, SECRETARY OF STATE'S WEBSITE, WHERE ALL THE
02:08:40INFORMATION ABOUT SAME DAY VOTING AND VOTING, REGISTRATION DEADLINES. I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN
02:08:44DOING A LOT OF WORK ON THAT, TOM, AND WARNING PEOPLE THAT
02:08:46THEIR DEADLINES WERE COMING UP
02:08:48AND ABOUT MANY STATES, DEADLINES HAVE PASSED. UH, AND ONLY A FEW
02:08:52OF THEM DO NOT HAVE SAME DAY
02:08:57REGISTRATION. SO THAT'S A PITY. BUT MANY PLACES DO HAVE SAME DAY
02:09:00REGISTRATION. AND THEN YOU CAST A CONDITIONAL BALLOT. AND WHEN
02:09:04THE OFFICE CHECKS THAT YOUR REGISTRATION DATA CHECKS OUT, YOU LIVE WHERE YOU SAID YOU
02:09:08LIVED, AND YOU ARE WHO YOU SAID YOU WERE. UM, THEN THEY WILL
02:09:11COUNT YOUR VOTE. IT'S LIKE HOW A PROVISIONAL BALLOT USED TO BE,
02:09:14BUT IT'S CALLED A CONDITIONAL BALLOT IN MOST PLACES. SAME DAY
02:09:17REGISTRATION IS A HUGE IMPROVEMENT. SOME STATES ONLY
02:09:20OFFER IT DURING THE EARLY VOTING
02:09:22TIME, BUT THAT INFORMATION WILL ALL BE WHEN YOU CLICK YOUR
02:09:26STATE. YOU CAN FIND ALL THAT OUT. SO THAT'S VOTER'S
02:09:29CALENDAR.ORG. AND THERE ARE A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS THAT I
02:09:32WILL SAY TOO, WHICH IS POST-ELECTION. THERE ARE A
02:09:36COUPLE OF ORGANIZATIONS I REALLY
02:09:38TRUST WHO ARE ORGANIZING PEOPLE TO WATCH THE THINGS THAT YOU
02:09:42NEED TO WATCH POST-ELECTION TO
02:09:45JUDGE THE ELECTION INTEGRITY IN YOUR JURISDICTION, IN YOUR
02:09:48STATE. AND THAT'S SMART.
02:09:51ELECTIONS.ORG AND SCRUTINEERS.ORG. AND THEY TEACH
02:09:55YOU WHAT YOU CAN CONTROL FROM
02:09:57YOUR COMPUTER OR IN PERSON
02:09:59OBSERVATION, AND THEN YOU CAN JOIN SOME PEOPLE DOING THAT AND
02:10:03KNOW THAT YOU'RE DOING EVERYTHING WITHIN THE LAW.
02:10:06YOU'RE NOT A GROUP OF, YOU
02:10:09KNOW, VIGILANTES INTIMIDATING ANYBODY, INCLUDING YOUR ELECTION
02:10:11OFFICIAL. THESE ORGANIZATIONS
02:10:13REACH OUT TO ELECTION OFFICIALS
02:10:16AND WORK IN A COOPERATIVE,
02:10:19NONVIOLENTLY COOPERATIVE MANNER
02:10:22TO IMPROVE THE VERIFICATION OF RESULTS.
02:10:25>> THIS IS GREAT STUFF, MIMI. UH YOU KNOW, YOU'RE DOING GOD'S
02:10:28WORK HERE. THIS IS REALLY GREAT
02:10:30STUFF. SO, UH, HOW IS, UH, TELL
02:10:33US ABOUT PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRATS OF AMERICA RIGHT NOW. WHAT'S
02:10:37WHAT'S GOING ON OVER THERE? IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE BEEN TO ONE OF THE MEETINGS. MY APOLOGIES.
02:10:40>> I KNOW, I KNOW EXACTLY, AND I AM NO LONGER, UM, THE CHAIR OF
02:10:45THE ADVISORY BOARD, THOUGH I AM A BOARD MEMBER. AND, UH, I'LL
02:10:49TELL YOU, I'M GETTING ON. SO A
02:10:51LOT OF MY SORT OF RIGHT HAND HELPERS AREN'T AT THE OTHER END
02:10:55OF THEIR PHONE LINE ANYMORE. YOU KNOW, THEY'VE PASSED ON TO WHERE
02:10:59I CAN'T REACH THEM EXCEPT BY
02:11:01PRAYER. AND SO I'VE WITHDRAWN SOMEWHAT FROM THAT DAY TO DAY OR
02:11:05MONTH TO MONTH. BUT WE HAVE A BRILLIANT EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
02:11:08NAMED ALAN MINSKY. AND, UH, MANY
02:11:10OF THE SAME PEOPLE ARE DOING OUR
02:11:14OPERATIONS. AND THEY, JANICE
02:11:15KAY. AND, UH, THEY WERE MIKE FOX
02:11:19NONSTOP. AND ONE THING PDA DOES IS ORGANIZE PHONE BANKS TO
02:11:23REMIND PEOPLE ABOUT DEADLINES
02:11:25AND GO OUT AND VOTE. AND MIKE
02:11:28FOX RUNS THAT OPERATION AND IS FANTASTIC. WE ALSO HAVE A GREAT
02:11:31PRESENCE WITH MIKE HIRSCH ON
02:11:34CAPITOL HILL. AND, UM, THE PROGRESSIVE CAUCUS DURING OUR
02:11:38TIME HAS GROWN FROM LIKE, I
02:11:39THINK IT WAS 12 PEOPLE ORIGINALLY TO. IT'S ONE OF THE,
02:11:43I THINK IT'S EITHER THE BIGGEST CAUCUS OR ONE OF THE BIGGEST
02:11:46CAUCUSES ON CAPITOL HILL. NOW, THE PROGRESSIVES. AND TIM ALWAYS
02:11:48SAID, I WANT PROGRESSIVE
02:11:51DEMOCRATS TO BE A GENERIC TERM,
02:11:55LIKE, YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO GET COCA-COLA. I GUESS THAT'S STILL A TRADEMARK BRAND. BUT,
02:11:59UH, AND HE SAID, I ALSO WANTED
02:12:02TO BE REDUNDANT SOMEDAY. YOU DON'T HAVE TO SAY PROGRESSIVE
02:12:05DEMOCRAT, DEMOCRAT, AND YOU
02:12:07ASSUME, AND I ALWAYS SAID PROG
02:12:11PROGRESSIVE MEANS WE ENVISION A FUTURE AND WE'RE PROGRESSING
02:12:15TOWARDS IT, RIGHT? BECAUSE, AS YOU KNOW, UH, THERE ARE TOO MANY
02:12:18PEOPLE WHO DECIDED THEY'VE GIVEN UP ON A FUTURE FOR THIS PLANET.
02:12:21THEY'RE GOING TO GO LIVE ON A
02:12:25OXYGEN LESS ROCK SOMEWHERE IN
02:12:27ANOTHER GALAXY OR OUR OWN. BUT I
02:12:32DON'T MEAN TO BE FACETIOUS, BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S SO MUCH SUFFERING GOING ON RIGHT
02:12:36NOW, AND A LOT OF IT IS POLITICALLY AND GEOPOLITICALLY
02:12:39INFLICTED. AND WE TRUST OR HOPE
02:12:44IN MANY ORGANIZATIONS THAT WILL REINSTATE THE RULE OF LAW. UH,
02:12:48IN OUR COUNTRY THAT WILL ABIDE BY THE CONSTITUTION AND PUT SOME
02:12:52TEETH IN IT. UH, BUT GUESS WHAT?
02:12:55THE THING WE CAN CONTROL FOR
02:12:59THAT TO HAPPEN IS VOTING. YEAH. AND SO WE'LL GET BACK TO THE
02:13:02SAME INFORMATION THAT I'M HERE TO BRING. AND AS I SAY, IF
02:13:05PEOPLE WANT TO ORGANIZE AND, AND
02:13:09WE'RE ALL ANXIOUS ABOUT THE RESULTS AND ABOUT HOW THEY'RE
02:13:13TABULATED AND WHO'S COUNTING, AND WHAT CAN BE INTERFERED WITH.
02:13:16BUT THAT'S WHY I'M OFFERING SMART ELECTIONS.COM AND
02:13:19SCRUTINEERS.ORG IN ORDER TO, IF YOU'RE ANXIOUS, DO SOMETHING
02:13:23WITH YOUR ANXIETY, SOMETHING YOU CAN CONTROL. AND, UM, BEV
02:13:26HARRIS, WHO WAS REALLY STARTING
02:13:30ELECTION INTEGRITY BACK WHEN I
02:13:32WAS, UM, AND HAS SINCE GONE ON
02:13:35TO DO OTHER THINGS IN HER LIFE, UH, WITH HER FAMILY AND TAKING
02:13:39CARE OF PEOPLE. UH, SHE ALWAYS
02:13:42SAID THAT IF YOU DO ONE THING,
02:13:44THE NEXT STEP THAT YOU NEED TO
02:13:47TAKE BECOMES OBVIOUS TO YOU. THAT'S HOW WE LEARN AS HUMAN
02:13:50BEINGS. IF YOU STEP OUT AND DO THE FIRST THING, THEN THE NEXT
02:13:54THING YOU NEED TO DO BECOMES APPARENT, AND YOU HAVE THE
02:13:57COURAGE TO DO THAT, AND YOU CAN DO IT WITH OTHER PEOPLE. AND
02:14:01AGAIN, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN WORKING IN ELECTION INTEGRITY FOR SO
02:14:04LONG THAT THEY, THEY KNOW HOW TO DO IT, AND THEY NO LONGER ARE
02:14:07DOING IT OPERATIONALLY, JUST,
02:14:09YOU KNOW, SCREAMING THAT THINGS
02:14:11ARE WRONG. AND IT'S ALL SO
02:14:15SUSPICIOUS. THAT HASN'T NEED,
02:14:19WE NEED EVIDENCE. AND EVEN SOMETIMES ALL THE EVIDENCE.
02:14:22OKAY, IT'S NOT LISTENED TO, BUT THAT DOESN'T STOP THE NEED TO
02:14:26ACCUMULATE IT. AND TO DO WHAT
02:14:28YOU CAN CONTROL. SO, UM, SO
02:14:31THAT'S IT. AND A COUPLE OF STATES, THEIR REGISTRATION DEADLINES HAVE GONE BY AND THEY
02:14:35DON'T HAVE SAME DAY REGISTRATION. UM, NOT DURING
02:14:39EARLY VOTING OR ON ELECTION DAY,
02:14:40BUT YOU CAN GO TO THOSE STATE
02:14:43WEBSITES. AND IF YOU FIND YOUR
02:14:46REGISTRATION SCREENSHOT, BECAUSE IF THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF
02:14:50PURGING, I, YOU KNOW, WE, WE
02:14:54CAN'T ONLY TRUST THAT EVERYTHING WILL GO WELL. SO IT'S UP TO EACH OF US TO DO
02:14:58WHAT WE CAN CONTROL AND TO GATHER THE EVIDENCE WE CAN. AND
02:15:01THE FIRST THING IS THERE'S OUR VOTER REGISTRATION. AND AGAIN,
02:15:04AFTERWARDS, IT'S NOT AN
02:15:07INDIVIDUAL VIGILANTE THING THAT'S NEVER GOING TO WORK FOR.
02:15:11ANYBODY, I HOPE. UM, BUT
02:15:15GATHERING WITH KNOWLEDGEABLE PEOPLE. AND AS I SAY, I TRUST
02:15:17THOSE OTHER TWO. I TRUST HIRZ.
02:15:20>> WELL SAID. >> OH, YEAH. I WANTED TO SAY ONE
02:15:23OTHER THING BECAUSE I. HAVE YOU
02:15:26EVER LOOKED AT THE MAP CALLED THE VERIFIER AND VERIFIED
02:15:30VOTING.ORG? I DON'T THINK I
02:15:30HAVE, YEAH. THEY AGAIN, VERIFIED
02:15:34VOTING STARTED VERY EARLY WHEN I STARTED THIS WORK. 2003, 2004,
02:15:38AND THEY HAVE A MAP OF THE UNITED STATES WITH A COLOR,
02:15:42VARIOUS COLORS. AND YOU CAN CHECK YOUR VOTING SYSTEM. HMM. I
02:15:46THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE TO
02:15:50KNOW THAT WHETHER THEY'RE THINKING NATIONALLY OR JUST NEED
02:15:52TO KNOW FOR THEIR STATE. AND
02:15:56THAT MAP, CALLED THE VERIFIER,
02:15:58IS A WONDERFUL RESOURCE. AND
02:16:01BALLOTPEDIA, I THINK I PUT THAT URL IN THERE. THERE THEY HAVE A
02:16:04MAP THAT SHOWS WHO OFFERS SAME
02:16:06DAY REGISTRATION.
02:16:10>> THAT'S GREAT. AND IT'S A, IT'S A TOUGH LITTLE TIGHT,
02:16:14TIGHT, TIGHT ROPE TO, TO WALK HERE BETWEEN SAYING, ON THE ONE
02:16:18HAND, YOU KNOW, WE WANT, WE
02:16:20DON'T WANT ANY SHENANIGANS IN OUR ELECTIONS. YOU KNOW, GREG
02:16:24POWELL DID THAT, DID THE MATH. YOU KNOW, HE'S GOT A MASTER'S
02:16:27DEGREE IN STATISTICS. YOU KNOW,
02:16:29HE, HE TOOK THE, THE, JUST THE STATE DATA, YOU KNOW, OF WHO GOT
02:16:33PURGED. AND HE FOUND THAT THEY PURGED LIKE 4.2 MILLION PEOPLE
02:16:37JUST BEFORE THE 2024 ELECTION AND HAD THOSE PEOPLE IN JUST IN
02:16:41THOSE SWING STATES. AND HAD THOSE PEOPLE NOT BEEN PURGED, KAMALA HARRIS WOULD BE OUR
02:16:45PRESIDENT RIGHT NOW. AND WE'D HAVE A WE WOULD HAVE HAD A DEMOCRATIC HOUSE. SO THAT'S THE
02:16:48SINGLE MOST EFFECTIVE THING REPUBLICANS DO, WHICH IS WHY
02:16:51YOU'RE SAYING SCREENSHOT YOUR VOTER REGISTRATION. SO IF YOU
02:16:54GET CHALLENGED. BUT BUT ON THE
02:16:56OTHER HAND, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T
02:16:59WANT TO BE SOUNDING LIKE, YOU KNOW, DONALD TRUMP AND LAURA LOOMER, YOU KNOW, OH MY GOD,
02:17:03IT'S ALL RIGGED. YES. AND IT'S
02:17:05JUST A TOUGH, TIGHT TIGHTROPE TO WALK.
02:17:07>> I KNOW, AND I THINK YOU'VE
02:17:12DONE IT EXCELLENTLY. AND I THINK THAT IF, IF YOU DO, TELL ME, GOOD OLD SERENITY, I'M TELLING
02:17:15YOU, IF YOU JUST DO THE THING
02:17:16YOU CAN'T CONTROL, YOU CAN
02:17:21CONTROL. AND YOU TAKE ACTION WITH SOMEONE ELSE WHO'S DOING
02:17:24IT BY THE LAW. AND IN A
02:17:27COOPERATIVE MANNER, YOU'RE
02:17:28GOING TO GET VERY FAR. AND YOUR
02:17:32ANXIETY DIMINISHES. WE WOULD BE NAIVE NOT TO BE WORRIED ABOUT
02:17:35RESULTS, SHENANIGANS. OH. >> THIS GUY, I MEAN, YOU KNOW,
02:17:38HE CALLED UP THE SECRETARY OF STATE OF GEORGIA AND DEMANDED
02:17:41THAT HE FIND ME 11,000 VOTES.
02:17:43RIGHT? I MEAN, THIS IS RIGHT IN PHONY.,
02:17:46>> ALL DAYLIGHT. WHATEVER YOU,
02:17:47YOU KNOW, IN DAYLIGHT. SO, UH,
02:17:51ONE THING THAT OFTEN ANNOYS ME
02:17:54IS, UH, TO REFUTE STOP THE
02:17:56STEAL, WHICH, OF COURSE, I, I WAS ON THAT SIDE, REFUTE IT. BUT
02:18:00THERE WAS ALWAYS, THERE'S NO EVIDENCE THAT THERE'S BEEN ANY
02:18:04MANIPULATION. WELL, OF COURSE, THERE WON'T BE EVIDENCE.
02:18:06THAT'S WHAT THE DIGITAL THING
02:18:09IS ALL ABOUT. AND AI, YOU KNOW,
02:18:12WE ARE LEARNING NOW, THERE'S. THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY EVIDENCE
02:18:14THAT THINGS WERE GOING OUTSIDE
02:18:18THE GUARDRAIL. SO WHAT WILL THE EVIDENCE BE? IT'LL BE WHAT WE CAN CONTROL, WHAT PEOPLE WHO
02:18:22KNOW ABOUT CYBERSECURITY HAVE LEARNED TO LOOK AT. BEV HARRIS
02:18:25USED TO SAY, CHECK, WHO CAN VOTE. THAT'S REGISTRATION
02:18:29PROCESS. AND DOES IT HAVE INTEGRITY? WHO DID VOTE? LOOK AT
02:18:32THE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE WHO VOTED IN YOUR PRECINCT, OR YOUR COUNTY
02:18:34OR YOUR STATE, AND GET THAT DATA. THAT'S WHAT GREG WAS, IS
02:18:39SO BRILLIANT ABOUT. AND THEN HOW
02:18:41IS THE VOTE COUNTED? YOU WANT TO KNOW YOUR VOTING SYSTEM, AND
02:18:44MAYBE IT'S VULNERABILITIES, OR
02:18:46IT'S SECURITY AND, AND THE
02:18:48CHAIN OF CUSTODY. YOU WANT TO KNOW ALL THE WAY TO REPORTING RESULTS.
02:18:52>> SPOT ON. MAYBE I'M HITTING A HEARTBREAK HERE. I'M SORRY. I
02:18:55KNOW THE GREAT MIMI KENNEDY. UM,
02:18:59PD AMERICA.ORG VOTERS CALENDAR
02:19:02DOT SCRUTINEERS.ORG AND SMART ELECTIONS.ORG.
02:19:06>> THAT'S IT. >> OKAY, MIMI, GREAT TO SEE YOU AGAIN. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
02:19:09DROPPING BY. >> ABSOLUTELY, TOM. GOOD WORK.
02:19:13THANK YOU FOR BEING THERE.
02:19:14>> MY PLEASURE. >> OKAY.
02:19:17>> THIS IS THE THOM HARTMANN PROGRAM. >> I'LL BE BACK WITH MORE OF THE NEWS OF THE DAY AND YOUR
02:19:21CALLS IN JUST A MOMENT. STICK AROUND
02:19:24>> [MUSIC]
02:19:40>> AND WELCOME BACK, SUZY IN PASADENA, CALIFORNIA. HEY, SUZY, WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY?
02:19:44>> HI, TOM. LOVE YOUR SHOW. LONG TIME LISTENER, FIRST TIME
02:19:47CALLER. THANK YOU. I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW ABOUT, UM. YOU
02:19:50KNOW, WE MUST EACH DO ALL WE
02:19:52CAN. AND SO I HAVE LAUNCHED,
02:19:54FROM ITS HUMBLE BEGINNINGS IN 2020 FOR THE 2026 CAMPAIGN OF
02:19:58HOT TO VOTE.ORG. WE ARE MOBILIZING THE HOTTEST CONTENT
02:20:01CREATORS OF TODAY TO TURN PEOPLE
02:20:02ON TO VOTING. WE HAVE OVER 100 PEOPLE, INCLUDING MARGARET CHO,
02:20:06WHO IS A VETERAN OF OUR INDUSTRY. UM, JUST TELLING
02:20:09PEOPLE TO CHECK THEIR REGISTRATION STATUS. WE'VE GOT
02:20:12POSTERS, PIN UP STYLE, 1940s VIBES ALL OVER ATLANTA, GEORGIA.
02:20:16UM, AND PARTS THERE IN, UH, JUST
02:20:19TRYING TO GET PEOPLE EXCITED
02:20:21ABOUT CHECKING THEIR STATUS. WE EVEN HAVE A SPICY STAGE NAME
02:20:25GENERATOR. SO WHEN YOU CHECK YOUR STATUS, IT WILL TELL YOU WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE REGISTERED
02:20:28TO VOTE. AND IT WILL GIVE YOU A NAME THAT YOU CAN USE FOR SPICY
02:20:32CONTENT CREATION IF YOU CHOOSE TO DO SO. >> SO OKAY. >> CHECK IT OUT AND LET US KNOW
02:20:36WHAT YOUR NAME IS. >> WHAT'S THE WEBSITE?
02:20:38>> HOT TO VOTE. IT'S HOT TO VOTE.ORG WITH THE NUMBER TWO.
02:20:42UM, WE'RE ALSO ON TIKTOK,
02:20:44TWITTER, INSTAGRAM. UM, IT'S REALLY FUN AND WE REALLY CARE. AND WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING.
02:20:48RIGHT. >> YEAH. WELL THANK YOU SUSIE. THANKS FOR SHARING THAT. AND I'LL HAVE TO CHECK IT OUT. I
02:20:52APPRECIATE THE CALL. THANK YOU.
02:20:55MARK IN OAKLAND, CALIFORNIA. HEY, MARK, WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND
02:20:58TODAY >> TOM. THANKS FOR TAKING MY CALL. SURE. HEY, TOM. I WANTED
02:21:02TO, UH. I TOLD HIM I WAS GOING
02:21:05TO TALK ABOUT. I WANTED TO
02:21:13GOING TO BE TOO LENGTHY. I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT MAYBE
02:21:16ANOTHER TIME. UH, I, I TOLD MATEO THAT I REALLY THINK THAT
02:21:19OBAMA NEEDS TO SLIP IN A MEA CULPA THERE WHEN HE'S TALKING, BECAUSE THIS THING IS PROBABLY
02:21:23GOING TO BE TELEVISED AND MAKE
02:21:25ALL THE NETWORKS HIS SPEECH, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE GOING TO
02:21:29DO A MINI CONVENTION. THAT'S
02:21:35SORT OF A COUNTER CONVENTION TO WHAT THE REPUBLICANS DID ABOUT A
02:21:38MONTH OR SO DALLAS. ONLY OBAMA COULD. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HIM
02:21:42TAKE OFF THE BAND AID AND JUST RIP LIKE. LIKE HE PROBABLY
02:21:45WANTED TO WHEN HE BECAME PRESIDENT. BUT HE FELT PRESSURE
02:21:48THAT HE COULDN'T BECAUSE HE WAS THE FIRST BLACK MAN TO BE
02:21:51PRESIDENT. SOMEWHAT RESERVED.
02:21:54BUT. TOM. TOM, I'M SORRY TALK
02:21:57ABOUT. I'LL MAKE THIS QUICK, BECAUSE THERE'S ONE THING THAT
02:22:00NOBODY'S TALKING ABOUT THESE
02:22:03WHICH IS THE PRECEDENT THAT TRUMP HAS SET WITH HIS GOVERNING
02:22:07METHODS. HE'S PROVED ONCE AND FOREVER THAT THE CONSTITUTION IS
02:22:10NOTHING MORE SUGGESTIONS. IT'S
02:22:13NOT LAW, LAND. WELL, IT'S NOT LAW OF THE LAND, BECAUSE IT HAS
02:22:16NO ENFORCEMENT MECHANISMS. AND
02:22:19TRUMP PROVED THAT TO WHOMEVER CONTROLS THE DOJ AND U.S. MILITARY, THEY GET TO DETERMINE
02:22:23WHAT IS AND ISN'T CONSTITUTIONAL. THAT'S HOW HE'S
02:22:27OPERATED. HE ALSO HAS A SUPREME
02:22:28COURT POCKET, BUT IT'S MOSTLY
02:22:31THE MILITARY AND THE DA. IN
02:22:33ANOTHER FEW YEARS, WHEN BOOMERS
02:22:36AND ARE GONE AND THE GEN X ARE SOMEWHAT INCAPACITATED BECAUSE
02:22:40OF THEIR AGE, THE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT CONTROL OUR GOVERNMENT ARE NOT GOING TO FORGET THAT.
02:22:44THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO FOLLOW
02:22:46THE CONSTITUTION. THEY'RE GOING TO REBUILD AMERICA IN THEIR OWN
02:22:50IMAGE. THAT SUIT THEIR GENERATIONS. UH.
02:22:52>> YOU KNOW, MARK, THE, THE, THE
02:22:54LAST PRESIDENT WHO, WHO WAS
02:22:58ACCUSED OF BEING A DICTATOR AND IGNORING THE CONSTITUTION IN A
02:23:00BIG WAY BECAUSE HE DID SO MANY THINGS BY EXECUTIVE ORDER, THAT
02:23:04MANY OF WHICH WERE STRUCK DOWN BY THE SUPREME COURT WAS
02:23:07FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT. SO IT MAY BE
02:23:10A GOOD THING THAT DONALD TRUMP
02:23:11HAS KIND OF BLAZED THIS PATH,
02:23:15BECAUSE IF A BERNIE LIKE CHARACTER, IF RO KHANNA, FOR EXAMPLE, WHO, YOU KNOW, IS
02:23:19PRETTY, PRETTY CLEARLY GOING TO BE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT, AND I
02:23:22WOULD LOVE TO SEE, AS PRESIDENT, IF HE BECAME PRESIDENT, USING
02:23:26THOSE KIND OF POWERS FOR GOOD INSTEAD OF FOR EVIL, MIGHT BE A
02:23:30GOOD THING. MARK, I GOTTA RUN, BUT THANKS FOR THE CALL. GREAT
02:23:33RANT. 22 MINUTES PAST THE HOUR. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
02:23:37>> [MUSIC] [MUSIC]
02:23:53[MUSIC] >> THE COMMONWEALTH REPORT IS JOURNALISM THAT WORKS FOR YOU,
02:23:57NOT CORPORATIONS, NOT BILLIONAIRES. NEWS FOR THE
02:24:00PUBLIC, NOT THE POWERFUL. TWICE A DAY, WE BREAK DOWN WHAT
02:24:03MATTERS TO YOUR LIFE. VISIT COMMONWEALTH REPORT.NEWS AND
02:24:07JOIN US TODAY. STAY INFORMED.
02:24:12STAY EMPOWERED.
02:24:12>> [MUSIC]
02:24:45>> THOM HARTMANN HOSTS THE THOM >> [MUSIC] >> HARTMANN PROGRAM FROM PORTLAND, OREGON, AT NOON
02:24:48EASTERN MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, AND THEN AT 3 P.M. EASTERN
02:24:52MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY. CONSERVATIVE RADIO HOST HUGH HEWITT HOSTS THE HUGH HEWITT
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02:24:592 ONLINE AT C-SPAN .ORG OR ON
02:25:03C-SPAN. NOW, OUR FREE MOBILE.
02:25:06>> A PRIEST, I GUESS, WHEN HE
02:25:09GROWS UP. GREW UP, WENT OFF, YOU
02:25:12IN OTHER DIRECTIONS. BUT HE HAD
02:25:16THE FLU AND HE WAS HOME FOR NINE
02:25:18DAYS WITH THE FLU FOR A WEEK AND
02:25:20A HALF. THERE'S APPARENTLY A PARTICULARLY NASTY FLU GOING AROUND. I GOT MY FLU SHOT ABOUT
02:25:24TWO WEEKS AGO, AND LOUISE HAS GOT TO GET IN THERE AND GET
02:25:28HERS. UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S,
02:25:32IT'S GOING. AND SO THIS
02:25:38CONSERVATIVE INFLUENCER POSTED WHAT HE CALLED A BREAKING
02:25:42EXCLUSIVE. HIS NAME IS NICK. UH,
02:25:45AND HE CLAIMED THAT OHIO
02:25:46FACILITY, QUOTE, CONFIRMS JAMES
02:25:49TALARICO WAS DISCHARGED FROM THE FACILITY EARLIER THIS WEEK. THE
02:25:52FLU THING WAS A BIG, FAT LIE. AND HE SAYS THAT THIS WAS A
02:25:56MENTAL HOSPITAL. UH, HE CREDITS
02:26:01REPORTING BY A COUPLE OF BLAZE TV HOSTS, AND HE POSTED A 16
02:26:05SECOND CLIP OF THIS CALL, GOT
02:26:08850,000 VIEWS. AND NOW AND THEN REPUBLICANS STARTED RUNNING WITH
02:26:11THE STORY. UH, KIMBERLY CLARK,
02:26:14CLASSIC, CLASSIC, KLACIK. UH,
02:26:18SAYS, UH, SHE'S A RADIO HOST ON
02:26:21BALTIMORE'S WBCN. WHOA. MENTALLY, TALARICO IS UNABLE TO
02:26:24HANDLE THE PRESSURE. YOU KNOW, MATT SWOL, WHO DESCRIBES HIMSELF
02:26:28AS A FORMER NUCLEAR SCIENTIST THAT COMPLETELY DISQUALIFYING TO
02:26:31LIE LIKE THAT, HE SHOULD DROP OUT OF ME. THIS IS THIS IS NUTS.
02:26:34I MEAN, THE REPUBLICANS ARE LIKE, THEY'LL GRAB ON TO ANY
02:26:38LITTLE LIE AND TRY AND BLOW IT UP, LIKE, ALL OUT OF PROPORTION,
02:26:41BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO TALK
02:26:44ABOUT THE FACT THAT EVER SINCE THE REAGAN REVOLUTION, THE
02:26:48REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS BEEN ENTIRELY THE PARTY OF THE
02:26:50BILLIONAIRES AND THE BIG
02:26:53CORPORATIONS. WHEN RONALD REAGAN CAME INTO OFFICE, TWO THIRDS OF
02:26:56US WERE IN THE MIDDLE CLASS WITH A SINGLE PAYCHECK. TODAY, IT'S
02:26:5941% OF US, AND IT TAKES TWO FULL
02:27:03TIME PAYCHECKS. THAT'S NOT AN
02:27:05ACCIDENT. THAT IS THE RESULT OF REAGANOMICS. WHEN FDR CAME INTO
02:27:09OFFICE, HE RAISED THE TOP INCOME
02:27:12TAX RATE ON THE MORBIDLY RICH TO 90%, AND HE KEPT IT THERE
02:27:15THROUGH THE FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT
02:27:17ADMINISTRATION, THE HARRY TRUMAN ADMINISTRATION, THE DWIGHT
02:27:20EISENHOWER ADMINISTRATION, THE
02:27:22JOHN KENNEDY ADMINISTRATION. LYNDON JOHNSON THEN LOWERED IT
02:27:25TO 74%, BUT CLOSED A WHOLE BUNCH OF LOOPHOLES. SO HE ACTUALLY
02:27:29INCREASED THE REVENUE COMING
02:27:30INTO THE GOVERNMENT. AND AND IT
02:27:34STAYED THERE, YOU KNOW, THROUGH
02:27:35THE NIXON ADMINISTRATION,
02:27:40THROUGH THE, UH, THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE FORD ADMINISTRATION, THROUGH THE >> [MUSIC]
02:27:44>> CARTER ADMINISTRATION. AND THEN REAGAN CAME ALONG AND SAID, OH, NO, NO, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE
02:27:48ALL THAT MONEY TO THE BILLIONAIRES. AND WE HAVE GIVEN
02:27:51THE BILLIONAIRES $40 TRILLION IN
02:27:54TAX BREAKS AND PUT IT ALL ON OUR CREDIT CARDS THAT OUR, OUR KIDS
02:27:58AND GRANDKIDS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR >> [MUSIC]
02:28:02>> JUST IT'S CRAZY. SO THEY
02:28:04DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT. SO, HEY, LET'S MAKE UP
02:28:08SOMETHING ABOUT TALARICO AND A MENTAL HOUSE. >> YOU'RE LISTENING TO THE THOM
02:28:10HARTMANN PROGRAM, CALL 2028089925.
02:28:14>> WHAT SAY YOU? I'LL PICK UP YOUR CALLS RIGHT AFTER THE
02:28:17BREAK. STICK AROUND.
02:28:19>> [MUSIC] [MUSIC]
02:28:40>> TRUMP HANDS PUTIN A DIESEL
02:28:42WINDFALL. TARIFFS HAMMER. OHIO
02:28:45FACTORIES. TEXAS CENSORS. PROFESSORS. MEDICAID CUTS.
02:28:48CLOSE. MATERNITY WARDS. VANCE
02:28:51INSULTS A BLACK CANDIDATE AND TRUMP RAGES AT NORWAY. GOOD
02:28:54MORNING. THIS IS THE COMMONWEALTH REPORT. NEWS FOR THE PUBLIC, NOT THE POWERFUL.
02:28:58YOU CAN FOLLOW US AT
02:28:59COMMONWEALTH REPORT.NEWS. DID TRUMP JUST HAND PUTIN A GIFT?
02:29:03WHILE AMERICAN DRIVERS GET NOTHING, DONALD TRUMP JUST CUT A
02:29:06DEAL WITH VLADIMIR PUTIN. ON
02:29:10FRIDAY, HE ANNOUNCED RUSSIA WILL SHIP 300,000 TONS OF DIESEL
02:29:14RIGHT AWAY, 500,000 MORE IN NOVEMBER, THAN A MILLION THAN
02:29:17ANOTHER 3 MILLION AFTER THAT, HIS TREASURY DEPARTMENT EASED
02:29:20SANCTIONS ON RUSSIAN DIESEL INTO APRIL OF 2027. THIS COMES ONE
02:29:24MONTH AFTER TRUMP SIGNED A LAW MEANT TO CHOKE OFF THE MONEY.
02:29:28THE OIL MONEY THAT PAYS FOR PUTIN'S WAR. UKRAINE'S
02:29:31PRESIDENT ZELENSKY CALLED IT A GIFT TO PUTIN AND WARNED, QUOTE,
02:29:35RUSSIA WILL REPAY THE DIESEL
02:29:38WITH FURTHER TERROR AND PERFIDY. AND ENERGY EXPERTS SAY IT PROBABLY WON'T LOWER PRICES.
02:29:42MUCH DIESEL SITTING AT 628 A GALLON, DRIVEN UP BY TRUMP'S OWN
02:29:44WAR WITH IRAN. SO PUTIN GETS
02:29:47CASH FOR HIS WAR MACHINE. UKRAINE GETS MORE BOMBS, AND
02:29:51AMERICAN AND TRUCKERS AND
02:29:52FARMERS GET A PRESS RELEASE. OUR
02:29:56TRUMP'S TARIFFS CRUSHING THE VERY FACTORIES HE PROMISED TO
02:29:57SAVE. ASKED DOUG RUNDY. HE RUNS
02:30:01SHAPES UNLIMITED AND ALUMINUM PRODUCTS MANUFACTURER IN NORTH
02:30:03JACKSON, OHIO. TRUMP'S ALUMINUM
02:30:05TARIFFS CLIMBED FROM 10 TO 20 5%
02:30:08TO 50%, AND RANDY SAYS THEY'RE
02:30:10COSTING HIM, QUOTE, UPWARDS OF 4.5 TO $5 MILLION THIS YEAR
02:30:14ALONE, END QUOTE. SHIPPING SURCHARGES TIED TO THE IRAN WAR
02:30:17ARE AS HIGH AS $6,500 A CONTAINER, SO HE STOPPED HIRING,
02:30:21AND HE'S BUYING ROBOTS INSTEAD.
02:30:24OVER IN WARREN, COUNTERTOP MAKER SAM MILLER PAYS TARIFFS ON
02:30:27MATERIALS FROM ASIA AND CAN'T EXPAND INTO CANADA, WHERE TRADE
02:30:31TALKS COLLAPSED IN AUGUST. CANADA BUYS A THIRD OF
02:30:34EVERYTHING. OHIO EXPORTS. THE SUPREME COURT STRUCK DOWN MANY OF THESE TARIFFS. TRUMP PUT THEM
02:30:38RIGHT BACK. TARIFFS ARE SOLD AS A GIFT TO WORKING PEOPLE, BUT
02:30:41THEY'VE TURNED IT INTO A TAX ON
02:30:43THE FOLKS WHO ACTUALLY MAKE THINGS WELL. TEXAS POLITICIANS
02:30:47NOW DECIDE WHAT EVERY PROFESSOR
02:30:48IS ALLOWED TO TEACH. THE
02:30:52ATLANTIC REPORTS THAT THAT STATE, THE STATE NOW CONTROLS WHAT PROFESSORS CAN TEACH. UNDER
02:30:56A LAW WRITTEN BY FORMER
02:30:58REPUBLICAN STATE SENATOR BRANDON CREIGHTON. REGENTS. REGENTS
02:31:01PICKED BY GOVERNOR GREG ABBOTT,
02:31:04HOLD POWER OVER THE CURRICULUM. TEXAS A&M AND TEXAS TECH
02:31:08RESTRICTED TEACHING ABOUT RACE, GENDER, AND SEXUAL ORIENTATION.
02:31:11A&M SHUT DOWN ITS WOMEN'S AND GENDER STUDIES DEGREE.
02:31:15UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS REGENTS VOTED TO LIMIT WHAT THEY CALL, QUOTE, UNNECESSARY,
02:31:19CONTROVERSIAL SUBJECTS. ONE A&M PHILOSOPHY PROFESSOR SAID HE
02:31:23WASN'T ALLOWED TO TEACH PLATO. ANOTHER WAS FIRED AFTER A LESSON
02:31:26ON GENDER IDENTITY, AND SHE'S
02:31:29SUING A NEW STATE OFFICE NOW
02:31:31INVESTIGATES COMPLAINTS ABOUT PROFESSORS IN A GOVERNMENT THAT
02:31:35PICKS WHICH IDEAS ARE LEGAL IN A
02:31:36CLASSROOM IS TRAINING, OBEDIENCE
02:31:40AND DEMOCRACY CAN'T SURVIVE ON THAT. HOW MANY MORE MATERNITY
02:31:43WARDS WILL CLOSE BEFORE REPUBLICANS ADMIT WHAT THEY DID?
02:31:47THE GUARDIAN REPORTS 52 MATERNITY WARDS HAVE CLOSED SINCE JULY OF LAST YEAR, WHEN
02:31:51TRUMP'S BIG, BEAUTIFUL BILL BECAME LAW. ANOTHER EIGHT HAVE
02:31:54ANNOUNCED THEY'RE CLOSING, ACCORDING TO THE GROUP PROTECT
02:31:57OUR CARE. THAT BILL CUT NEARLY
02:32:00$1 TRILLION FROM MEDICAID, AND MEDICAID PAYS FOR MORE THAN 40%
02:32:03OF BIRTHS IN AMERICA. HOSPITALS IN VIRGINIA AND RURAL GEORGIA
02:32:06POINTED TO THE COMING CUTS WHEN THEY SHUT DOWN THEIR UNITS FOR
02:32:08GOOD. THE MARCH OF DIMES SAYS 31
02:32:12MORE RURAL HOSPITALS ARE AT RISK, AND IF THEY GO, 96
02:32:15COUNTIES LOSE THEIR LAST PLACE TO DELIVER A BABY. SENATOR RON
02:32:19WYDEN WARNED THIS SUMMER, QUOTE, MATERNITY WARDS ACROSS AMERICA
02:32:22ARE SHUTTERING THEIR DOORS. AND THE WORST OF IT, INCLUDING WORK
02:32:26REQUIREMENTS, DOESN'T EVEN START UNTIL JANUARY. THEY TOOK HEALTH CARE FROM MOTHERS AND
02:32:29BABIES TO PAY FOR BILLIONAIRE
02:32:32TAX CUTS. REMEMBER THAT IN NOVEMBER, JD VANCE TELLS A BLACK
02:32:36SENATE CANDIDATE SHE DOESN'T BELONG IN AMERICA. AT A CAMPAIGN
02:32:39STOP IN LAKELAND, FLORIDA, ON OCTOBER 1st, THE VICE PRESIDENT
02:32:42WENT AFTER ANGIE NIXON, THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE FOR U.S.
02:32:46SENATE. THE FLORIDA PHOENIX REPORTS. HE SAID SHE DOESN'T BELONG IN AMERICA, AND C-SPAN
02:32:50VIDEO SHOWS HIM TELLING HER TO GET THE HELL OUT OF THE COUNTRY
02:32:53IF SHE'S A SOCIALIST. NIXON IS
02:32:56BLACK. HER FAMILY'S BEEN IN
02:32:58FLORIDA FOR GENERATIONS, SHE FIRED BACK FRIDAY, QUOTE, I
02:33:02DON'T NEED JD VANCE PERMISSION TO BELONG HERE. AND SHE POINTED OUT THAT THE SENATOR USHA VANCE
02:33:06SIDE, ASHLEY MOODY, WAS NEVER ELECTED. MOODY WAS APPOINTED IN
02:33:102025 TO MARCO RUBIO'S SEAT. NIXON CALLED THE ATTACK A
02:33:14DESPERATE DISTRACTION FROM RISING INSURANCE, RENT AND
02:33:16HEALTH CARE COSTS, TELLING BLACK AMERICANS TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY
02:33:19IS ONE OF THE OLDEST AND UGLIEST TRICKS IN OUR POLITICS. IT
02:33:22DESERVES AN ANSWER AT THE BALLOT
02:33:26BOX, TRUMP RAGES AT NORWAY AFTER THE NOBEL PRIZE GOES TO SOMEONE
02:33:30ELSE. THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE WENT
02:33:32FRIDAY TO NAVI PILLAY, A THE 85 YEAR OLD SOUTH AFRICAN JURIST
02:33:36WHO DEFENDED ANTI-APARTHEID
02:33:38ACTIVISTS, JUDGED THE RWANDA GENOCIDE TRIALS AND LATER RAN
02:33:42HUMAN RIGHTS FOR THE UN. DONALD
02:33:45TRUMP DIDN'T TAKE IT WELL. AT A RALLY IN SYRACUSE, NEW YORK, HE
02:33:48CALLED HER A MYSTERY PERSON AND WARNED THAT WE WILL NOT FORGET
02:33:52NORWAY. THEN HE POSTED THAT HE SHOULD HAVE WON EIGHT NOBEL PRIZES, ONE FOR EACH WAR. HE
02:33:56CLAIMS HE SETTLED AND CALLED THE
02:33:58DECISION AN INDELIBLE STAIN ON
02:34:00NORWAY. SMALL PROBLEM NORWAY'S
02:34:03GOVERNMENT GOVERNMENT DOESN'T PICK THE WINNER. AN INDEPENDENT
02:34:07COMMITTEE DOES. PILLAY GOT THE NEWS AT A CONFERENCE IN NUREMBERG AND TOLD THE CHEERING ROOM, IF YOU CLAP A LITTLE BIT
02:34:11MORE, I MAY SHARE THIS PRIZE
02:34:12WITH TRUMP, A MAN WHO THREATENS
02:34:16A COUNTRY OVER A TROPHY HAS TOLD YOU EVERYTHING ABOUT WHY HE
02:34:19DIDN'T GET IT, AND THAT'S THE WAY IT IS TODAY. MONDAY, OCTOBER
02:34:2212th, 2026. I'M THOM HARTMANN.
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02:36:17THE DISCUSSION, WHICH WILL PROMOTE CIVIL DISAGREEMENT, WILL FOCUS ON THE POLITICAL CULTURE
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02:36:53SHERIDAN, OREGON. HEY, RENEE.
02:36:55WHAT'S UP? >> HEY. HI, TOM. THANKS FOR
02:36:58EVERYTHING YOU DO. UM, I JUST WANT TO MENTION SOMETHING. A
02:37:02LETTER TO THE EDITOR THAT I WROTE. THE NEWS-REGISTER IN
02:37:06MCMINNVILLE. UH, THIS WEEK. AND I'M AMAZED. UM, I THOUGHT IT
02:37:09WAS PRETTY GOOD. THERE'S A RED
02:37:13COUNTY, AND THE NEWS-REGISTER LEANS LEFT, SO I WAS SHOCKED TO
02:37:17SEE, UH, THEY WERE ENDORSING
02:37:21CHRISTINE DRAZAN, A REPUBLICAN AGAINST THE INCUMBENT DEMOCRAT.
02:37:25UH, TINA KOTEK. BUT MY, I WANT
02:37:27TO SAY MY LETTER INCLUDED 21
02:37:30POINTS THAT TRUMP HAD DONE. AND
02:37:35CHRIS STEVENSON ALL OVER IN, IN,
02:37:42OREGON. AND I MADE IT.
02:37:45NON-ACCUSATORY NON OFFENSIVE.
02:37:48THE FACTS ARE IN THE NEWS. AND I
02:37:52ACTUALLY SAW REPUBLICANS IN MCMINNVILLE. THAT'S OUR COUNTY
02:37:56SEAT COLLECTING SIGNATURES TO END MAIL IN VOTING. SO A VOTE
02:37:59FOR DRAZAN IS A VOTE TO END MAIL IN VOTING. >> YEAH.
02:38:03>> SHE'S SHE'S ONLY. >> SHE SAID THAT MULTIPLE TIMES
02:38:05IN THE PAST. I HAVE
02:38:09>> YEAH. SO WE JUST HAVE TO ELECT ONLY PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING
02:38:12TO STAND UP TO TRUMP. THAT'S. WE
02:38:16MUST ELECT THOSE PEOPLE. AND I HOPE PEOPLE WAKE UP AND AND NOT
02:38:19VOTE FOR THE BILLIONAIRES. UH, AND PUT THE DEMOCRATS BACK IN
02:38:23OFFICE AND VOTE BLUE, NO MATTER WHO. >> WELL SAID.
02:38:27>> THAT'S WHAT I GOT TO SAY. >> OKAY. YOU SAID IT. WELL,
02:38:29THANK YOU VERY MUCH. KELVIN
02:38:31GROVE CITY, OHIO. HEY, KELVIN,
02:38:33WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY
02:38:36>> UM >> PROUD TO TALK TO YOU.
02:38:39>> THANK YOU.
02:38:47>> PUTIN. PUTIN WAS A COMMUNIST KGB HE WAS. YOU KNOW, THE
02:38:51DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A, YOU KNOW,
02:38:52COMMUNISM WAS, IS HE HE WAS A
02:38:55PROUD COMMUNIST. AND HE ALSO THE
02:39:00COMMUNIST AND SOCIALIST WAS TWO SEPARATE THINGS. IF THEY TAKE
02:39:04THE COMMUNIST PARTY OUT OF IT, THE COMMUNISTS BELIEVE THAT. NO,
02:39:08NO CHURCHES WERE ALLOWED TO BE. THEY WEREN'T. THEY. THEY
02:39:11DIDN'T BELIEVE IN CHRIST OR, OR ANY KIND OF RELIGION. >> TRUE.
02:39:14>> AND IF YOU IF YOU THINK.
02:39:18>> PUTIN IS EXPLOITING PUTIN, PUTIN IS REALLY PUSHING
02:39:20RELIGION. NOW. HE'S HE'S PULLING A TRUMP ON THIS, YOU KNOW. YES. I'M SO PIOUS.
02:39:24>> HE'S ACTUALLY, HE'S, HE'S A
02:39:26FALSE HE'S A FALSE, UH, HE
02:39:29DIDN'T BELIEVE IN CHRIST OR ANYBODY, ANY RELIGION BEFORE
02:39:32THAT. HE JUST USING, USING THEM LIKE THEY, LIKE HE'S USING AMERICA.
02:39:36>> YEP. I AGREE WITH YOU. >> AND WHAT HAPPENED WAS THEY
02:39:39SHOULD, THEY EVERYBODY SHOULD KNOW THAT SOCIALISM ACTUALLY IS
02:39:43A CHRISTIAN. UH, CHRIST. CHRIST
02:39:48IS A SOCIALIST. >> OH, THEY HAD A COMMON PURSE. UH, JUDAS WAS THE GUY WHO WAS
02:39:51RESPONSIBLE FOR KEEPING ALL THE MONEY IN ONE BAG. UH, THEY
02:39:54SHARED EVERYTHING, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE, WITH EACH OTHER, THEY
02:39:56THEY, UH. YEAH. YEAH, IT'S, UH,
02:40:00THAT WAS THE ACTUAL. THAT WAS ACTUAL MARXISM, YOU KNOW? SO.
02:40:03CALVIN. WELL SAID. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, DAVE. IN TULSA,
02:40:07OKLAHOMA. DAVID. EXCUSE ME. IN TULSA, OKLAHOMA. HEY, DAVID, WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY?
02:40:11>> UH, YEAH, WE'RE SOCIAL
02:40:13CREATURES AND, AND HAVING SOCIAL
02:40:17CONTRACTS, FORMING SOCIETIES, AND WE'RE SOCIALISTS. YEAH. UH,
02:40:20THIS IS ON HOW DO WE REPAIR
02:40:23THINGS? UH, VEIN AND WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE JUDICIARY. AND
02:40:27I'M INFAMOUS. I'M WELL AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE
02:40:30GROUND LEVEL, BECAUSE I HAVE SEVERAL FRIENDS. AND ONE OF THE
02:40:32THINGS THAT WAS A YOUTUBE CLIP,
02:40:35AND THE GUY'S, THE JUDGE WAS LIKE, OKAY, I CAN GIVE YOU
02:40:38PROBATION. I'LL GIVE YOU AN ANKLE MONITOR. AND HE'S LIKE,
02:40:41SEND ME BACK TO JAIL. AND YOU
02:40:46GET OUT AND, AND YOU HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO PAY EVERY, YOU KNOW,
02:40:50YOU YOU'VE GOT ALL THESE FINES,
02:40:54YOU'VE GOT TO DO. WELL, SEND ME BACK TO JAIL. AND SHE'S LIKE, IF I SEND YOU BACK TO JAIL, I'M
02:40:58GOING TO GIVE YOU MORE TIME. AND
02:41:03HE SAYS, SEND ME BACK WHAT'S GOING ON. IS IN $100 A WEEK TO
02:41:07PAY FOR YOUR GPS. AND THEN YOU
02:41:10HAVE TO PAY LIKE $30 A WEEK FOR
02:41:13YOUR DRUG TO MANDATORY DRUG TEST. AND OF COURSE, THEY DON'T
02:41:16HELP ANY AS FAR AS GETTING TRANSPORTATION TO GO TO THAT
02:41:19PARTICULAR LAB WHERE YOU HAVE TO
02:41:21TAKE IT AT THIS SPECIFIC TIME. AND IF THEY DON'T, WE'RE GOING
02:41:25TO SEND YOU TO JAIL. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE YOUR KIDS AWAY. WE'RE GOING TO PUT THEM IN
02:41:28FOSTER. >> DEBTOR'S PRISON ALL OVER AGAIN.
02:41:30>> RIGHT. AND IT'S
02:41:34>> WHICH WAS OUTLAWED IN 1833.
02:41:40>> THE DRUG KINGPIN CONFISCATION LAWS. AND EVERYBODY JUMPED ON THIS. WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THE
02:41:44CRIMINALS PAY. AND HERE IN
02:41:46OKLAHOMA, WE WERE ESPECIALLY
02:41:48VOCAL ON THAT BECAUSE THEY WERE CONFISCATING, OH, YOU BOUGHT SOME WEED AND GRANDMOTHER'S
02:41:52CAR. WELL, GUESS WHAT? GRANDMA'S CAR IS NOW ON THE ON
02:41:55THE FOR SALE LOT. THE POLICE
02:41:57AUCTION. RIGHT. AND YEAH, YOU
02:41:59KNOW AND IT'S GOT TO THE
02:42:03ABSURD. PEOPLE LOSE THEIR PROPERTY BECAUSE SOMEBODY'S GROWING POT IN THE BACK 40 AND,
02:42:08UH, AND ALL OF THIS IS, IS AROUND EXTRACTING THE MONEY
02:42:12BECAUSE THEY CUT THE TAXES. THIS
02:42:15GAVE THEM EXCUSE FOR TAX CUTS. KEATING. IN FACT, PART OF THE
02:42:18KEATING TAX CUTS. YEAH. UH,
02:42:22SAID, OKAY, SO NOW WE DON'T NEED
02:42:23TO GIVE THE, THE COURTS AS MUCH
02:42:26MONEY OUT OF THE STATE COFFERS.
02:42:28SO THE BAILIFFS AND ALL THAT. SO
02:42:31NOW THE WHOLE SYSTEM IS FEEDING ON THIS THING. OH, WE'RE GOING
02:42:34TO MAKE THE CRIMINALS PAY. EXCEPT, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE, THE OBVIOUS THING. WELL, USUALLY
02:42:38CRIMINALS DON'T HAVE MONEY. THAT'S WHY THEY'RE CRIMINALS.
02:42:40>> YEAH. AND YOU KNOW WHERE ALL THIS STARTED. YOU KNOW, WHEN,
02:42:44WHEN THEY FINALLY TRACKED DOWN JOHN EHRLICHMAN ABOUT A DECADE
02:42:46AGO, BEFORE HE DIED, UM, YOU
02:42:48KNOW, WHO WAS RICHARD NIXON'S RIGHT HAND MAN? AND ASKED HIM,
02:42:52YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS THE DEAL WITH THE WAR ON DRUGS? HE SAYS, LET
02:42:54ME TELL YOU ABOUT THE WAR ON DRUGS. I'M PARAPHRASING, BY THE WAY, BUT IT'S PRETTY, PRETTY
02:42:58CLOSE, HE SAID, WE HAD IN THE NIXON ADMINISTRATION, WE HAD TWO
02:43:01ENEMIES, BLACK PEOPLE AND ANTI-WAR HIPPIES. AND YOU
02:43:05COULDN'T OUTLAW BEING BLACK, AND YOU COULDN'T OUTLAW BEING
02:43:08AGAINST THE WAR. SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE HEAVILY CRIMINALIZED THE
02:43:12DRUGS THAT THOSE TWO COMMUNITIES WERE USING, HEROIN AND
02:43:14MARIJUANA. AND USED THOSE THAT
02:43:17HEAVILY, EXCEPT, YOU KNOW, EXCESSIVE CRIMINALIZATION OF
02:43:21THOSE DRUGS TO BREAK UP THEIR COMMUNITIES, GO AFTER THEIR
02:43:24LEADERS AND TAKE THEM DOWN. AND,
02:43:28AND, AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED, DAVID, IS THE
02:43:31FRUIT OF THAT PARTICULAR POISON TREE. SO, DAVID, YOU SAID IT SO WELL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
02:43:34DUANE. IN PETALUMA, CALIFORNIA. DUANE, WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND
02:43:37TODAY?
02:43:39>> HI, TOM. 14th AMENDMENT.
02:43:43DUANE, BUT WITH A VERY SMALL
02:43:46PROJECT US, UH, GET A
02:43:51CERTIFICATE OF MAILING WHEN WE GO TO THE POST OFFICE TO MAIL
02:43:53OUR BALLOT. AND THAT GIVES A WRITTEN DOCUMENT FROM THE POST
02:43:57OFFICE ITSELF AS TO WHEN YOU ACTUALLY PUT YOUR BALLOT IN.
02:44:01MHM. AND YOU COMPARE THAT ONLINE
02:44:03WITH WHEN THEY RECEIVE IT AT
02:44:05YOUR LOCAL CLERK, YOUR THAT YOU
02:44:08COULD SEE ANY PROGRAMS THAT
02:44:11BEFORE THE ACTUAL COUNT OF ANY
02:44:12DELAYING OF, UH, MAIL IN
02:44:18BALLOTS. YEAH. I. >> I GET IT, DUANE. IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE PARTICULARLY NERVOUS ABOUT THAT, OR IF YOU LIVE IN AN
02:44:21AREA WHERE THE POST I, YOU KNOW, I POSTED, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS
02:44:25LAST WEEK ON THE AIR AND, UM, ON
02:44:28FRIDAY, I POSTED A PIECE ON DAILYKOS POINTING OUT THAT I'D
02:44:32HAD A BUNCH OF PEOPLE FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY CALLING IN AND SAYING THAT THEIR MAIL WAS TAKING WEEKS, YOU KNOW, AND
02:44:36THERE WAS THAT STORY IN ASTORIA, OREGON, WHERE, WHERE IT WAS
02:44:39TAKING A MONTH FOR A POSTCARD TO
02:44:41GO FROM ASTORIA TO ASTORIA. AND,
02:44:45UH, IT WAS INTERESTING BECAUSE PEOPLE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY WERE RESPONDING IN THE COMMENTS
02:44:49SECTION THERE ON DAILYKOS, AND SOME OF THEM WERE SAYING, YOU KNOW, YEAH, THE MAIL HERE HAS
02:44:53JUST GONE TO HELL. AND IT TAKES, YOU KNOW, TWO WEEKS TO GET A MAIL, YOU KNOW, TO GET A LETTER
02:44:57ACROSS TOWN. AND OTHER PEOPLE WERE SAYING, MY MAIL IS STILL
02:45:00RUNNING JUST FINE. AND MY SUSPICION IS IT HAS TO DO WITH
02:45:03WHEN LOUIS DEJOY DESTROYED THOSE
02:45:06MORE THAN $100 MILLION HIGH
02:45:08SPEED SORTING MACHINES. AND, AND
02:45:12THEY, YOU KNOW, KIND OF RECONFIGURED THE POST OFFICE TO TRY TO PREPARE IT, TO PRIVATIZE
02:45:16IT TO, TO FEDEX OR UPS THAT THE
02:45:21DESTRUCTION OF THE POSTAL SERVICE WAS NOT UNIFORM ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY, THAT THERE
02:45:24ARE SOME AREAS WHERE IT'S, IT'S STILL WORKING WELL. AND
02:45:28THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, UH, SO, YOU KNOW, WE'LL SEE. BUT IF
02:45:32YOU'RE IN AN AREA THAT YOU GOT TO WORRY ABOUT. DUANE. SPOT ON. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE
02:45:36CALL. I'LL BE BACK WITH MORE OF YOUR CALLS IN JUST A MOMENT.
02:45:39STAY WITH US.
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02:46:22AUGUSTA, WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY?
02:46:24>> WELL, ON MY MIND. I LISTENED TO MIMI TALKING TODAY, AND I
02:46:27THINK SHE'S. SHE'S RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING. I'VE WORKED THE
02:46:31POLLS FOR 30 DIFFERENT YEARS.
02:46:33MHM. AND I'M. I'M FRIGHTENED
02:46:35THAT THIS YEAR, WE SEEM TO HAVE FORGOTTEN THAT MR. TRUMP. MR.
02:46:39TURNIP SAID THAT HE'S GOING TO
02:46:43HAVE ICE PRESENT AT EVERY POLLING PLACE. MHM. AND THAT
02:46:47SMACKS TO ME, IS THAT HE WANTS TO BE SURE THAT SOME HISPANIC OR
02:46:50SOMEBODY THAT LOOKS LIKE HISPANIC, OR THEY MIGHT LEAVE
02:46:54SOMETHING BROWN, THEY CAN'T GO IN TO VOTE. YEAH. >> TRUMP HASN'T SAID THAT. THAT
02:46:56WAS STEVE BANNON WHO SAID THAT. JUST FYI, JUST TO KEEP THE
02:47:00RECORD STRAIGHT. >> OKAY. I THOUGHT IT WAS TRUMP. >> NO. TRUMP HAS DENIED IT. AND.
02:47:04>> OH, THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR. BUT
02:47:07YOU KNOW, HE SAYS THINGS ON
02:47:08FRIDAY. AND THEN HE GOES HOME.
02:47:13AND ON MONDAY THE MARKET CHANGES
02:47:14IN HIS FAVOR. I'VE NOTICED THAT EVERY FRIDAY HE MAKES SOME
02:47:18STUPID STATEMENT. AND PEOPLE
02:47:20PANIC. AND THEY SELL OFF. I HAVE
02:47:24TWO COUSINS THAT WATCH THE STOCK MARKET, AND THEY SAID, YEAH, ON
02:47:28FRIDAY. IT'S LIKE EVERYBODY
02:47:30SELLS. AND THE MILLIONAIRES BUY AT A CHEAP RATE. AND SO
02:47:34THEREFORE, THE STOCKS KEEP GOING TO THE BILLIONAIRES. YEAH. AND
02:47:37THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH THAT.
02:47:39>> YEAH I AGREE, I AGREE. YEAH
02:47:43>> AHEAD. GO >> NO. YOU MAKE YOUR FINAL
02:47:46POINT. I'M GOING TO MOVE ALONG TO THE NEXT CALLER HERE.
02:47:49>> YEAH. MY FINAL TRIED TALKING
02:47:53WITH A PERSON THAT I KNOW WORKED THE REPUBLICAN PARTY DOWN IN
02:47:57FLORIDA, AND SHE IS A DEAD
02:48:01ABSOLUTELY. TRUMP CAN DO
02:48:02ABSOLUTELY NO WRONG AND HEGSETH
02:48:05CAN DO NO WRONG. AND WHEN I POINTED OUT THAT THERE WAS A CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUE HERE, SHE
02:48:09SAID, I DON'T CARE WHETHER IT IS OR NOT. THOSE PEOPLE ARE SO
02:48:11BAD. WE'VE GOT TO GET RID OF THEM. DO YOU KNOW ANYBODY? I
02:48:15SAID, DO YOU KNOW ANYONE? I CAN'T HATE SOMEBODY UNLESS I
02:48:19KNOW THEM PERSONALLY. MHM. YEAH,
02:48:21I CAN'T, I, I CAN'T GO WITH THAT. SO THAT'S MY LAST STATEMENT.
02:48:25>> YEAH. OKAY. WELL WELL SAID AUGUSTA. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:48:27AND IN MESA, ARIZONA. HEY. AND WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY?
02:48:31>> HEY, TOM. HOW ARE YOU? >> GOOD. WHAT'S UP?
02:48:34>> I'M. >> UH. >> VERY IRRITATED.
02:48:37>> UH, SENIOR CITIZEN AND
02:48:40INSULTED BY THAT $90 BRIBE THAT
02:48:44WE ALL GOT IN THE MAIL RECENTLY.
02:48:46AND SO, RATHER THAN BE ANGRY
02:48:50BECAUSE GOD KNOWS THE REPUBLICANS GIVE YOU SOMETHING
02:48:53TO BE ANGRY ABOUT EVERY DAY, YOU HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. AND SO
02:48:57WHAT I DID, AND I WOULD
02:48:58RECOMMEND OTHERS DO, IS I
02:49:03DONATED THAT MONEY TO A TWO
02:49:05DIFFERENT NONPROFITS IN MY AREA
02:49:07THAT, UH, THAT I KNOW HAVE BEEN
02:49:12UNDERFUNDED OR DEFUNDED BY THE,
02:49:13UH, BY THE, UH, BIG, BEAUTIFUL
02:49:16BILL AND ALL OF THAT MALARKEY. >> YEAH. WELL, GOOD.
02:49:19>> ON YOU. SO I DONATED RESCUE
02:49:23MISSION, WHICH HELPS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE FAMILIES THAT FALL
02:49:26THROUGH THE, UH, AND NO LONGER
02:49:29EXISTENT, UH, NET AND ALSO SAINT
02:49:32MARY'S FOOD BANK. AND I URGE
02:49:36PEOPLE TO THINK ABOUT DOING THOSE THINGS BECAUSE ON TOP OF
02:49:40EVERYTHING, YOU WILL GET A TAX
02:49:42CREDIT. MHM. AND SO IT'LL HELP
02:49:49YOU ON THE BACK END WITH YOUR TAXES. IF THAT'S AN ISSUE. SO I
02:49:53JUST, I WANTED TO SHARE THAT TODAY WITH THE, WITH YOUR AUDIENCE.
02:49:57>> WELL, THANK YOU ANNE. YOU'RE DOING GOOD STUFF. THANK YOU SO
02:50:00MUCH FOR THE FOR THE CALL AND KEEP IT UP. YOU'RE AN
02:50:03INSPIRATION. THANK YOU. ANNE. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH MORE
02:50:06OF YOUR CALLS IN JUST ONE MINUTE. STAY TUNED.
02:50:10>> [MUSIC]
02:50:19[MUSIC] >> ALL THIS MONTH ON C-SPAN 2, WE'RE BRINGING YOU LIVE TALK
02:50:22RADIO SIMULCAST WITH VOICES FROM
02:50:24ACROSS THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM. THIS WEEK, PROGRESSIVE
02:50:28COMMENTATOR THOM HARTMANN HOSTS THE THOM HARTMANN PROGRAM FROM PORTLAND, OREGON, AT NOON
02:50:32EASTERN MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, AND THEN AT 3 P.M. EASTERN MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY.
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02:50:39SHOW FROM WASHINGTON, D.C.. WATCH LIVE ALL THIS MONTH ON
02:50:43C-SPAN 2, ONLINE AT C-SPAN DOT ORG OR ON C-SPAN. NOW, OUR FREE
02:50:46MOBILE VIDEO APP.
02:50:49>> LATER TODAY. UTAH'S REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR, SPENCER COX, SITS DOWN FOR A
02:50:54CONVERSATION WITH FORMER OBAMA SENIOR ADVISOR DAVID AXELROD.
02:50:57THE DISCUSSION, WHICH WILL PROMOTE CIVIL DISAGREEMENT, WILL
02:51:00FOCUS ON THE POLITICAL CULTURE IN POST-TRUMP AMERICA. WATCH
02:51:04LIVE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF
02:51:06CHICAGO AT 6:30 P.M. EASTERN ON
02:51:09C-SPAN. C-SPAN NOW. OUR FREE
02:51:10MOBILE APP OR ONLINE AT
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02:51:21>> THE ROAD. >> TO THE CAPITOL RUNS THROUGH AMERICA'S BATTLEGROUND STATES, AND C-SPAN IS THERE. OUR CAMERAS
02:51:25ARE ON THE GROUND FOLLOWING THE CAMPAIGNS WHERE THE TOUGHEST
02:51:28RACES WILL DECIDE THE BALANCE OF POWER IN CONGRESS. WE'RE THE
02:51:31ONLY NATIONAL TELEVISION NETWORK PROVIDING THIS LEVEL OF UNFILTERED ACCESS TO THE
02:51:35CANDIDATES, THE VOTERS, AND THE
02:51:37ISSUES SHAPING CAMPAIGN 2026. NO
02:51:40COMMENTATORS TELLING YOU WHAT TO THINK. NO. PARTIZAN SPIN. THE
02:51:43ROAD TO THE CAPITOL. ONLY ON
02:51:48C-SPAN. >> [MUSIC]
02:51:52>> MIKE SAID, BEFORE I HAPPEN TO LISTEN TO HIM.
02:51:55>> ON YOUR MIND TODAY. >> YES, SIR.
02:51:57>> UM, SINCE WRIGHT. REAGAN TOLD
02:51:59US HIS TWO BIGGEST LIES, THAT,
02:52:02NUMBER ONE, TAX CUTS PAY FOR THEMSELVES. AND THIS IS NOT
02:52:06CLASS WARFARE. U.S. DEBT IS UP
02:52:12OVER 3,900%. AND SINCE HIS AND
02:52:16SINCE REAGAN, THE TOP 1%, THEIR
02:52:19THEIR WEALTH HAS GONE UP 285%.
02:52:22THEIR INCOME HAS GONE UP 162%.
02:52:25NOW, FOR A MEDIAN INCOME PEOPLE,
02:52:29OUR WEALTH HAS GONE UP 60%, AND
02:52:32OUR INCOME HAS ONLY GONE UP 36%. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ONE
02:52:36OTHER THING. I LIVE IN MARYLAND,
02:52:39DISTRICT ONE. PLEASE VOTE FOR
02:52:41DAN SCHWARTZ TO TAKE OUT ANDY
02:52:43HARRIS, ALSO KNOWN AS DR. NO.
02:52:47>> YEAH. YEAH. ANDY HARRIS IS, UH, IS A CURSE. HE HE WAS THE
02:52:51GUY WHO WAS CONSTANTLY MESSING WITH THE POLITICS IN WASHINGTON,
02:52:54D.C. WHEN I LIVED THERE, WHEN THEY TRIED TO BASICALLY LEGALIZE
02:52:57POT, HE, HE, UH, HE JUST WENT
02:52:59NUTS. UM, YEAH. YEAH, I'M WITH YOU, FRANK. THANK YOU. AND
02:53:03THANKS FOR WATCHING US ON C-SPAN. NICE. NICE TO HEAR FROM YOU.
02:53:06>> GOD BLESS. >> THANK YOU. UH, BLAKE IN PORTLAND. HEY, BLAKE. WHAT'S ON
02:53:10YOUR MIND TODAY? >> HEY, BROTHER. TOM. GOOD TO
02:53:13HEAR YOU, MAN. THANK YOU FOR
02:53:15TAKING MY CALL. UM, I JUST WANT
02:53:19TO OPEN WITH SOMETHING FROM THE NEW YORK TIMES ON SUNDAY. SPY MAGAZINE, THE NOW DEFUNCT,
02:53:23SATIRICAL MONTHLY SENT CHECKS
02:53:26FOR TINY AMOUNTS TO THE WEALTHIEST PEOPLE AS PART OF ITS
02:53:29SEARCH TO FIND AMERICA'S
02:53:31CHEAPEST ZILLIONAIRE. GUESS WHO
02:53:34WAS NAMED THE WINNER IN 1990 AFTER HE REDEEMED A CHECK FOR
02:53:37$0.13? >> WHO IS THAT?
02:53:39>> YES UH, DONALD TRUMP. I MEAN,
02:53:43HOW MANY HOW MANY NICKNAMES DO WE NEED FOR THE GUY? YES, I'M TRYING TO STAY ON THE AIR HERE.
02:53:47YES. DONALD TRUMP, DONALD TRUMP
02:53:49ISN'T >> MANGO
02:53:53>> UM, YEAH. SO. OKAY. KEEPING
02:54:00PERSON WITH A CHILD AND, YOU KNOW, WANTING THE COUNTRY I LOVE
02:54:04AND NOT TO GO DOWN THE RIVER
02:54:06LIKE, LIKE, LIKE, I MEAN, ARE
02:54:09THERE, ARE THERE LAWSUITS TAKEN UP AGAINST HIM WITH THE GUILFORD
02:54:12CASE, WITH EVERYTHING HE DOES, WITH EVERY LIE HE MAKES? LIKE,
02:54:16I, I'M LOOKING FOR A HERO FROM THE DEMOCRATS TO JUST, LIKE,
02:54:19JUST GO WITH IMPEACHMENT THINGS
02:54:23OR GO WITH THE MENTAL INCOMPETENCY OR GO WITH, LIKE,
02:54:24YOU KNOW, NOT FIT TO SERVE, 20,
02:54:2828, ALL THESE LITTLE COURT WAS
02:54:32SET UP 50 YEARS AGO, HE CAN PUT THIS PLACE IN, LIKE YOU SAY, THE
02:54:36GUARDRAILS ARE OFF. HE PROMISED. AND YOU NEVER HAVE TO VOTE FOR
02:54:38ME AGAIN IN 2024. YOU KNOW, LIKE, IT'S, IT'S THE WRITING'S
02:54:42ON THE WALL. AND, AND, UH, I
02:54:47MEAN, ONE, HOW DO WE KEEP OUR ANXIETY DOWN? WE GOTTA HAVE, WE GOTTA HAVE SERENITY. YOU GOTTA
02:54:51HAVE, LIKE, YOU GOTTA BE KIND OF MONKISH ABOUT THE EMOTIONS THAT
02:54:55WE FEEL. >> THE BEST ANTIDOTE FOR
02:54:57ANXIETY. BLAKE. AND THERE'S NO SHORTAGE OF GOOD PSYCHOLOGICAL
02:55:00STUDIES ON THIS IS PROACTIVE ACTION. UM, YOU KNOW, DOING
02:55:04SOMETHING ABOUT IT. >> NO. KINGS FELT GREAT. NO KINGS FELT GREAT.
02:55:07>> I WANT TO. SAY NO. YEAH. BLAKE. >> THANK YOU. BUT. BUT CAN WE
02:55:10HAVE AN OVERHAUL OF THE GOVERNMENT? GET BIG BUSINESS OUT
02:55:14OF IT AND GET BIG, BIG MONEY? >> YEAH. WE NEED WE NEED TO OVERTURN THESE THESE INSANE
02:55:18DECISIONS THAT FIVE CORRUPT ON THE TAKE REPUBLICANS ON THE U.S.
02:55:21SUPREME COURT GAVE US THAT. THAT TURNED US INTO AN OLIGARCHY.
02:55:24BLAIR. THANK YOU. UH, RANDALL IN OKLAHOMA CITY. HEY, RANDALL,
02:55:28WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND TODAY
02:55:33>> PROFESSOR, SPANISH HISTORIAN,
02:55:40FOUND DOCUMENTS AND A ARCHIVE IN SPAIN THAT WAS A 1506 TRIAL OF
02:55:43CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS AND HIS TWO BROTHERS, DIEGO AND BARTHOLOMEW.
02:55:46AND THEY WERE PUT IN CHAINS,
02:55:48BROUGHT BACK TO THE U.S., AND
02:55:52THEY WERE THERE WAS 23
02:55:55WITNESSES, ACCOUNTS AND
02:55:59TESTIMONY, 23 WITNESSES, A
02:56:01DESTROYED, WELL KILLED, ALL OVERWORKED, KILLED ALL THE
02:56:04PEOPLE IN HISPANIOLA, WHICH
02:56:08HAITI OR DOMINICAN REPUBLIC. RIGHT. I PROBABLY WHY THEY DID
02:56:11THAT WAS THERE'S NO MORE SILVER BECAUSE WE GOT NO MORE MINERS TO
02:56:14MINE IT. THEY'RE ALL DEAD. WELL,
02:56:18ANYWAY, THEY TOOK EVERY BIT.
02:56:20THEY TOOK HIS UM ADMIRAL OF THE
02:56:22SEAS AWAY FROM HIM. TITLE, WHICH IS A BIG DEAL. AND THEY TOOK ALL
02:56:26OF HIS MONEY AND ALL OF HIS
02:56:28BROTHER'S MONEY. SO IN HIS OWN
02:56:31TIME, HE WAS DISCREDITED AS A MURDERER AND A KILLER IN HIS OWN
02:56:35TIME, 1506 TRIAL. >> INTERESTING. I'M UNAWARE OF
02:56:38THAT, RANDALL. SO I CAN'T, YOU KNOW, VERIFY THAT, BUT THAT'S
02:56:41FASCINATING. THANK YOU. KAREN AND JOLIET, ILLINOIS. KAREN, I
02:56:44HAVE ABOUT A MINUTE LEFT HERE ON THE SHOW TODAY. >> OH, MY.
02:56:48>> OKAY, I'LL MAKE IT QUICK. UH, YES, IT IS. UM, THE NO KING'S RALLY AND ALL THAT. ALL
02:56:52THAT STUFF IS GREAT, BUT I'M LOOKING FOR A SOLUTION.
02:56:55SOMETHING LIKE A ORDER OF PROTECTION, A PETITION FOR THE
02:56:58AMERICAN PEOPLE. IT'S ABOUT 345
02:57:00MILLION OF US. MAYBE 315 MILLION SIGNATURES OF A.
02:57:04>> PETITION COMING UP ON
02:57:08NOVEMBER 3rd. IT'S CALLED A VOTE. >> I UNDERSTAND THE VOTE. THE VOTE IS NOT GETTING US ANYWHERE RIGHT NOW. THERE'S TOO MUCH
02:57:12CORRUPTION THIS MAN HOLDS A
02:57:13QUARTER OF $1 BILLION, WHICH IS
02:57:17LIKE HE COULD PAY OFF HALF OF THE DEBT IN THIS COUNTRY.
02:57:20INSTEAD, HE'S CUTTING THINGS
02:57:22THAT
02:57:31>> THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE TALKING ABOUT GENERAL STRIKE. KAREN. THERE ARE. KAREN, I GOT
02:57:35TO RUN. I'M SORRY. I'M OUT OF TIME. BUT THANK YOU. THAT WAS A GREAT WAY TO TO WRAP UP THE
02:57:38PROGRAM. BRILLIANT. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US TODAY. WE'LL BE BACK TOMORROW.
02:57:43SAME TIME, SAME PLACE. IN THE MEANTIME, DON'T FORGET, DEMOCRACY IS NOT A SPECTATOR
02:57:46SPORT. IT REQUIRES ALL OF US. IT INCLUDES YOU. SO GET OUT THERE,
02:57:49GET ACTIVE. TAG. YOU'RE IT. HAVE A GREAT AFTERNOON. BE GOOD
02:57:52TO YOURSELF AND THE FOLKS AROUND YOU. STAY SAFE. EAT YOUR
02:57:56VEGGIES, GET YOUR EXERCISE. WE GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO THIS FALL. JUST THREE WEEKS HERE, AND
02:58:00I'LL CATCH UP WITH YOU TOMORROW
02:58:04>> [MUSIC]
02:58:07>> AND YOU'VE BEEN WATCHING OUR SIMULCAST OF THE THOM HARTMANN
02:58:10PROGRAM, HOSTED BY THE PROGRESSIVE POLITICAL COMMENTATOR THOM HARTMANN IN
02:58:14PORTLAND, OREGON. COMING UP SHORTLY, WE'LL BRING YOU
02:58:16CONSERVATIVE COMMENTATOR HUGH HEWITT, HOSTING HIS HUGH HEWITT
02:58:19SHOW TO TALK ABOUT NEWS OF THE DAY. LIVE FROM THE NATION'S
02:58:23CAPITOL. THAT'S STRAIGHT AHEAD
02:58:25HERE ON C SPAN TWO.
02:58:29>> LATER TODAY, UTAH'S REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR, SPENCER COX, SITS DOWN FOR A
02:58:32CONVERSATION WITH FORMER OBAMA SENIOR ADVISER DAVID AXELROD.
02:58:36THE DISCUSSION, WHICH WILL PROMOTE CIVIL DISAGREEMENT, WILL FOCUS ON THE POLITICAL CULTURE
02:58:40IN POST-TRUMP AMERICA. WATCH LIVE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF
02:58:44CHICAGO AT 6:30 P.M. EASTERN ON
02:58:46C-SPAN. C-SPAN NOW. OUR FREE
02:58:49MOBILE APP OR ONLINE AT
02:58:55C-SPAN.ORG.
02:58:57>> THINK YOU KNOW CIVICS. THE BRIGHTEST YOUNG CIVIC MIND