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00:00:00PRIMARIES, COVERS THE ROLE OF INDEPENDENT VOTERS IN THIS
00:00:03YEAR'S MIDTERM ELECTIONS. THEN, NEWSWEEK WHITE HOUSE
00:00:07REPORTER FELDMAN PREVIEWS THE WEEK AHEAD AT THE WHITE HOUSE
00:00:11AND BARROW, EDITOR OF THE NATIONAL JOURNAL'S POLITICAL
00:00:14NEWSLETTER, THE HOTLINE DISCUSSES KEY MIDTERM ELECTION RACES TO WATCH AND OTHER
00:00:19CAMPAIGN OF THE DAY.
00:00:19WASHINGTON JOURNALIST NOW.
00:00:28TODAY IS
00:00:35HOST: MONDAY, OCTOBER 12. WELCOME TO "WASHINGTON JOURNAL."
00:00:37JUST OVER THREE WEEKS TO MIDTERM
00:00:40ELECTIONS, AND CAMPAIGNS ARE IN
00:00:42THEIR FINAL SPRINT TO THE FINISH LINE.
00:00:45SENATE CANDIDATES IN SOUTH CAROLINA, REPUBLICAN DARLINE
00:00:48GRAHAM AND DEMOCRAT ANNIE ANDREWS, FACED OFF IN THEIR OWN
00:00:52DEBATE, SPARRING OVER ISSUES LIKE THE IRAN WAR AND IMMIGRATION.
00:00:55MORE DEBATES, INCLUDING IN MAINE, ARE EXPECTED LATER THIS WEEK.
00:00:59THAT IS WHERE WE BEGAN. WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU.
00:01:03WHICH PARTY DO YOU WANT TO CONTROL CONGRESS?
00:01:06HERE IS HOW YOU JOIN IN ON THE
00:01:11CONVERSATION. REPUBLICANS, (202) 748-8001.
00:01:15DEMOCRATS, (202) 748-8000.
00:01:17INDEPENDENTS, (202) 748-8002.
00:01:20YOU CAN TEXT AT (202) 748-8003.
00:01:27PLEASE INCLUDE YOUR NAME AND WHERE YOU ARE FROM.
00:01:30YOU CAN CATCH US ON SOCIAL
00:01:33MEDIA, FACEBOOK.COM/C-SPAN AND
00:01:35ON X AND INSTAGRAM AT @CSPANWJ.
00:01:45THERE ARE JUST 22 DAYS UNTIL
00:01:48NOVEMBER 3, THE MIDTERM ELECTIONS.
00:01:52LAST NIGHT IN SOUTH CAROLINA, THE REPUBLICAN, DARLINE GRAHAM,
00:01:55THE SISTER OF THE LATE SENATOR
00:01:59LINDSEY GRAHAM, AND HER RIVAL, DR. ANNIE ANDREWS, FACED OFF IN
00:02:03A DEBATE WHERE THEY BOTH LANDED SOME BLOWS.
00:02:06[VIDEO CLIP] TAKE A LISTEN. [VIDEO CLIP]
00:02:10>> AND I AM DEEPLY SORRY FOR WHAT THE GRAHAM FAMILY HAVE BEEN
00:02:14THROUGH FOR THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS. I THOUGHT IT WAS A NICE GESTURE
00:02:17WHEN THE PRESIDENT APPOINTED DARLINE GRAHAM TO FULFILL HER BROTHER'S TERM, BUT NOW WE ARE
00:02:21TALKING ABOUT A FULL TERM IN THE SENATE. IT IS NOTHING PERSONAL, BUT SHE
00:02:25HAS SHOWN TIME AND TIME AGAIN THAT SHE IS NOT UP FOR THE JOB.
00:02:29WHETHER IT IS ABOUT AI WHICH COULD CAUSE MASSIVE JOB LOSSES
00:02:32ARE LOST TO HUMANITY OR A POTENTIAL CONFRONTATION WITH
00:02:36CHINA OVER THE TIMELINE JUST TAIWAN STRAIT OR RISING COSTS,
00:02:40WE NEED SOMEONE IN THE SENATE WILLING TO WAKE UP EVERY DAY, ROLL UP THEIR SLEEVES, GO TO
00:02:45WORK, REACH ACROSS THE AISLE, AND SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS.
00:02:48WE NEED SOMEONE WHO IS READY FOR THE JOB ON DAY ONE.
00:02:50I WILL BE READY FOR THE JOB ON DAY ONE.
00:02:54SENATOR GRAHAM HAS PROVEN OTHERWISE.
00:02:58>> I WOULD LIKE TO REBUT, PLEASE. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYBODY
00:03:02THAT WORKS HARDER THAN I DO. I HAVE PROVEN THAT OVER THE PAST
00:03:05FEW MONTHS, LOSING MY BROTHER,
00:03:07RUNNING A PRIMARY, A RUNOFF, AND CAMPAIGNING FOR A GENERAL
00:03:12ELECTION WHILE DOING THE JOB AS A UNITED STATES SENATOR.
00:03:15THROUGH THE GRACE OF GOD AND MUCH PRAYER, I HAVE FOUND OUT
00:03:19JUST HOW STRONG I AM. SO IF ANYBODY IS GOING TO ROLL
00:03:22UP SLEEVES AND WORK HARD FOR
00:03:24THIS STATE, THIS GREAT STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA THAT I LOVE, IT
00:03:28DEFINITELY WILL BE ME. I AM JUST AS QUALIFIED AS YOU ARE.
00:03:33YOU ARE A PEDIATRICIAN WHO
00:03:38CANNOT DEFINE A WOMAN. HOST: THAT WAS ONE CLIP FROM THAT FIERY DEBATE IN SOUTH CAROLINA LAST NIGHT.
00:03:42OBVIOUSLY, THAT STATE REPRESENTS
00:03:44ONE STATE THAT REPUBLICANS HAVE SOME CONCERN OVER.
00:03:48LOOKING AT AN AXIOS ARTICLE FROM EARLIER THIS WEEK, HEADLINE,
00:03:52SCOOP, SENATE SHALL BE TO SEND
00:03:55$5 BILLION TO SHORE UP GRAHAM IN SOUTH CAROLINA.
00:03:57IT GOES ON TO SAY THAT THE GOP
00:04:00IS CONCERNED THAT HIS SENATE SEAT IN SOUTH CAROLINA COULD BE
00:04:03IN PLAY AND SHOWS HOW BY THE POLITICAL ENVIRONMENT IS FOR
00:04:07REPUBLICANS WHO FACE A RASH OF PROBLEMS IN STATES LONG
00:04:11CONSIDERED CONSERVATIVE STRONGHOLDS.
00:04:12IT IS AN INSURANCE POLICY, WE
00:04:15WILL BE THERE FOR DARLINE.
00:04:20THE SHIFT IN SPENDING COMES AFTER SENATE REPUBLICANS
00:04:23ANNOUNCED THEY WERE NO LONGER FINANCING ADS IN SWING STATE
00:04:26NORTH CAROLINA, WHERE THE GOP'S
00:04:29MICHAEL WHATLEY IS LAGGING BEHIND FORMER GOVERNOR ROY
00:04:32COOPER IN POLLS, DEMOCRAT.
00:04:37THERE IS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF
00:04:40THE MAP PERHAPS SPREADING OUT BEYOND WHAT DEMOCRATS FIRST
00:04:44BELIEVED IT WOULD BE A FEW MONTHS AGO. LET'S TURN TO YOUR PHONE CALLS.
00:04:48THE QUESTION IS, WHO DO YOU WANT
00:04:50TO CONTROL CONGRESS, WHICH PARTY?
00:04:52JEFFREY FROM NORTH CAROLINA, INDEPENDENT.
00:04:56GOOD MORNING. CALLER: GOOD MORNING.
00:05:01WITH THE SITUATION THAT IS
00:05:04OBVIOUSLY BROKEN, NOT IN THE
00:05:09GOVERNMENT BRANCHES DIRECTION OR HOW THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE
00:05:13OPERATING, I BELIEVE THE DEMOCRATS THIS TIME HAVE A
00:05:16STRONG POSITION DUE TO EVERY
00:05:20PART OF A PRESIDENTIAL POSITION
00:05:25OF POWER -- OF HOW THE BRANCHES
00:05:29SHOULD BE OPERATING OR VOTING INTO FROM POSITIONS, ESPECIALLY
00:05:33WITH THE WAR THAT IS GOING ON IN
00:05:37THE SITUATION THAT REALLY HAS
00:05:40BEEN ABSENT WITH CONGRESS ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE.
00:05:44THEY TAKE NO ACCOUNTABILITY RIGHT NOW ON WHERE THIS POSITION
00:05:49IS AND HOW IT IS OBVIOUS PEOPLE
00:05:54ARE DESPERATELY IN SOME TYPE OF
00:05:57FINANCIAL STRAIN OVER OIL
00:05:59PRICES, GAS PRICES, FOOD PRICES.
00:06:03AGAIN, THE PRESIDENT, MOST POWERFUL MAN IN THIS NATION,
00:06:06WILL NOT ADDRESS AND ASK LIKE NONE OF THIS SITUATION IS AN
00:06:10ISSUE OR IT MATTERS.
00:06:12THEN PEOPLE WHO WANT YOUR VOTE
00:06:15TO BE IN A POSITION TO CORRECT
00:06:18MATTERS ARE JUST REALLY NOT
00:06:21TELLING THE TRUTH. YOU HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION TO THEIR WORDS.
00:06:25THEIR WORDS MATTER, ESPECIALLY DONALD TRUMP SAYING EVERYBODY
00:06:29WILL GET $5,000 IF THE
00:06:31REPUBLICANS WIN.
00:06:34SO, IF THAT IS TRUE, THE TRUTH THAT COMES FROM THIS PRESIDENT,
00:06:37THEN HE KNOWS MULTIPLE MILLIONS
00:06:41OF PEOPLE IS NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR HIM.
00:06:44HOST: JEFFREY, LET ME ASK YOU,
00:06:47BECAUSE YOU ARE IN NORTH CAROLINA AND WE TALKED ABOUT HOW
00:06:50THE REPUBLICAN PARTY ANNOUNCED
00:06:52THEY WOULD STOP SPENDING ADS ON MICHAEL WHATLEY, SENATE CANDIDATE FOR THE REPUBLICAN
00:06:56PARTY STATE RUNNING AGAINST THE DEMOCRAT.
00:07:00YOU ARE INDEPENDENT. DO YOU KNOW HOW YOU PLAN TO VOTE?
00:07:05CALLER: YES, I AM DEFINITELY
00:07:06GOING TO VOTE DEMOCRAT.
00:07:11IT MAKES SENSE.
00:07:15IT ABSOLUTELY LINES UP WITH WHAT NORTH CAROLINIANS ARE DEALING WITH.
00:07:19THE REPUBLICAN SIDE IS ACTUALLY
00:07:23JUST REALLY MAKING EXCUSES ON SITUATIONS THAT WE SHOULD NOT BE
00:07:28IN DUE TO THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.
00:07:29AND CONGRESS HAS BEEN ABSENT.
00:07:32HOST: DO YOU TEND, AS AN
00:07:34INDEPENDENT, DO YOU TEND TO VOTE
00:07:37DEMOCRATIC OR DO YOU SWITCH PARTIES?
00:07:40CALLER: YES, I AM GOING TO SWITCH PARTIES AND VOTE
00:07:43DEMOCRATIC. OBVIOUSLY, IF YOU LISTEN TO A
00:07:47LOT OF THEIR MESSAGES, IT IS REALLY STAYING WITH THE
00:07:50NARRATIVE ON THE GAS PRICES,
00:07:52FOOD PRICES, THE WAR, NOT ENDING THE WAR.
00:07:56THE THINGS THAT THIS
00:07:57ADMINISTRATION HAS TURNED OUR
00:08:00ALLIES AGAINST US IN CERTAIN WAYS WITH UKRAINE AND RUSSIA,
00:08:03BOWING DOWN TO ANYTHING PUTIN IS
00:08:07GOING TO DO. IT IS VERY DISTURBING THAT THERE
00:08:10IS NO ACCOUNTABILITY FOR DONALD TRUMP AND THIS ADMINISTRATION.
00:08:14HOST: WHAT WOULD YOU SAY IS YOUR NUMBER ONE ISSUE, AND THEN I WILL LET YOU GO -- WHAT WOULD
00:08:18YOU SAY IS YOUR NUMBER ONE ISSUE OF CONCERN?
00:08:22CALLER: THAT IF THERE IS FAITH,
00:08:28AND I BELIEVE IN THE LORD JESUS, PLEASE LET THE DEMOCRATIC
00:08:32TAKEOVER SO THEY CAN ACTUALLY VOTE IN THE RIGHT PERSPECTIVE
00:08:36WAY FOR PASSING BILLS AND
00:08:40STOPPING THIS ADMINISTRATION FROM DESTROYING AND CORRUPTING MORE OF WHAT IS GOING ON.
00:08:45THERE IS NO WAY THIS ADMINISTRATION MAY 2 BILLION
00:08:49DOLLARS IN TWO YEARS. HOST: ALL RIGHT.
00:08:52ON SOCIAL MEDIA, WE HAVE A MESSAGE SAYING, I WANT THE
00:08:56DEMOCRATS TO CONTROL BOTH HOUSES OF CONGRESS STARTING IN JANUARY.
00:09:00THEY WILL THEN HAVE THE DECISION OF WHETHER TO GOVERN OR TO SPEND
00:09:04ALL THE TIME CASTIGATING THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.
00:09:06IN EITHER CASE, THEY WON'T HAVE A VETOPROOF MAJORITY IN THE HOUSE.
00:09:09WHAT DEMOCRATS DOING THIS TWO YEARS WILL INFORM AND PREPARE
00:09:14AMERICANS FOR THE 2028 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.
00:09:18THAT IS FROM PENNSYLVANIA. AND ANOTHER HOTLY CONTESTED ELECTION IN THE COUNTRY, IT IS IOWA.
00:09:22LET'S LISTEN TO FOX NEWS SUNDAY,
00:09:27BOTH THE REPUBLICAN GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE AND DEMOCRATIC GUBERNATORIAL
00:09:30CANDIDATE TALKING ABOUT WHAT THEY WOULD DO IF THEY WON THEIR ELECTION. [VIDEO CLIP]
00:09:36>> WHY SHOULD IOWA VOTERS THINK THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE BIPARTISAN, THAT YOU'RE GOING TO
00:09:40BE A CENTRIST, WHEN SOME OF THE OTHERS HAVE NOT PROVEN THAT TO
00:09:44BE TRUE ONCE SWORN IN?
00:09:46>> YEAH, I WAS VERY ENTERTAINED
00:09:49BY THE VICE PRESIDENT'S REMARKS. HE ASKED PEOPLE TO LOOK AT MY VOTING RECORD.
00:09:52I HAVE NEVER BEEN IN THE LEGISLATURE.
00:09:55SO A LOT OF WHAT HE SAID IS NONSENSE.
00:09:59WHAT HE CLAIMS THAT I HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR THAT, I SPENT SEVEN YEARS AS THE CHIEF PUBLIC
00:10:03CORRUPTION PROSECUTOR IN IOAN'S COURTROOMS.
00:10:06I WAS LOCKING UP MURDERERS,
00:10:09RAPIST, AND THIEVES, PROSECUTING
00:10:11DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS, AND
00:10:14SAME IN TWO TERMS AS STATE AUDITOR. THAT IS ABOUT ME.
00:10:18POLITICIANS LIKE HIM WANT PEOPLE TO FORGET THAT WE HAVE A SYSTEM
00:10:21OF CHECKS AND BALANCES. WE HAVE GOT A REPUBLICAN LEGISLATURE IN IOWA.
00:10:25WE ARE GOING TO STILL HAVE A REPUBLICAN LEGISLATURE IF I WIN THIS RACE.
00:10:29THAT MEANS WE WILL HAVE DIVIDED CONTROL, WHICH MEANS EVERY SINGLE BUDGET AND BILL THAT GETS
00:10:33PASSED WILL HAVE TO BE SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE IN BOTH PARTIES CAN
00:10:37APPRECIATE. THAT MIGHT DISAPPOINT THE 20% OF
00:10:40PEOPLE ON ONE SIDE OF THE 20% OF PEOPLE ON THE OTHERS OF THE
00:10:43SPECTRUM, THE FAR RIGHT AND FAR LEFT, BUT THE VAST MAJORITY OF
00:10:46US WILL SAY IT IS NOT SO BAD. HOST: THAT WAS THE DEMOCRATIC
00:10:51CANDIDATE WHEN ASKED ON FOX NEWS
00:10:54WHAT THEIR APPROACH TO POLITICS IS. LET'S LISTEN TO THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE.
00:10:59[VIDEO CLIP]
00:11:02>> YOU BEAT OUT A REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN, SOMEONE WITH THE PRESIDENT'S BACKING.
00:11:05THE PRESIDENT HAS SINCE CALLED YOUR PATRIOT, BUT SOME ON THE
00:11:09GROUND IN IOWA WORRY ABOUT WHETHER YOU WILL BE ABLE TO STAND UP TO HIM WHEN HE COMES TO
00:11:13THE INTERESTS OF IOWA. THE FOOD AND ENVIRONMENTAL
00:11:17REPORTING NETWORK SAID TRUMP HAS NOT BEEN A RELIABLE FRIEND TO IOWA FARMERS WHO HAVE BEEN
00:11:21CRUSHED BY TARIFFS AND GUIDED BY
00:11:24FERTILIZER COSTS, CUTS TO USDA FOR SERVICES AND REGENERATIVE
00:11:27FARMING INITIATIVES WERE BRUTAL. BUT WE NEED A GOVERNOR WHO WILL
00:11:29STAND UP FOR IOWA WHEN OUR INTERESTS ARE BEING IGNORED,
00:11:34SAID ONE SOYBEAN FARMER.
00:11:39HOW WILL YOU MANAGE THAT RELATIONSHIP? PRESIDENT TRUMP VERSUS THE PEOPLE OF IOWA, WHEN YOU THINK THEY ARE IN CONFLICT?
00:11:43>> FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, MY CAMPAIGN HAS BEEN ABOUT HOW TO
00:11:46PUT FARMERS FIRST. MY FAMILY HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN
00:11:49AGRICULTURE FOR 130 YEARS IN THIS STATE. I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE SAME
00:11:53THINGS COME ABOUT BIG CORPORATIONS CONSOLIDATING
00:11:56POWER, TAKING CHOICE AND COMPETITION AWAY FROM FARMERS, CREATING MONOPOLIES IN THE
00:12:00MARKET. I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THINGS EVEN
00:12:04SOMETIMES THE PRESIDENT DISAGREES WITH, LIKE IMPORTING MORE BEEF.
00:12:08I WANT TO GROW OUR HERD HERE. I MAINTAIN AN INDEPENDENT MESSAGE ON THIS BECAUSE I'M NOT
00:12:12A POLITICIAN AND NEVER RAN FOR OFFICE. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME DOING THIS.
00:12:15I GOT IN BECAUSE OF THESE ISSUES, BECAUSE WHAT IS
00:12:18HAPPENING ON THE GROUND WITH OUR AGRICULTURE COMMUNITY AND BEING
00:12:21ABLE TO HAVE AN INDEPENDENT VOICE. THE WAY YOU DO THAT AS YOU GET
00:12:24WITH THE PEOPLE ON THE GROUND, AND THAT IS WHAT I HAVE DONE THROUGH TOWN HALL AFTER TOWN
00:12:28HALL, MEETING WITH PEOPLE, AND UNDERSTANDING THEIR ISSUES.
00:12:32WASHINGTON, D.C., WILL HAVE THEIR ISSUES. I AM HERE TO PUT IOWA FIRST.
00:12:36THAT IS WHAT HOW YOU HAVE DONE
00:12:38SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THIS CAMPAIGN.
00:12:44HOST: THAT IS THE IOWA REPUBLICAN GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE. BACK TO YOUR PHONE CALLS. THE QUESTION IS, WHAT PARTY DO
00:12:47YOU WANT TO CONTROL CONGRESS?
00:12:51ROSEMARY FROM DELAWARE, REPUBLICAN. GOOD MORNING.
00:12:55CALLER: GOOD MORNING, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME ON
00:12:59THIS MORNING. I THINK THE REAL QUESTION IS --
00:13:02IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHICH
00:13:06PARTY YOU WANT IN POWER.
00:13:09THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS PARTY
00:13:11ANYMORE, EITHER DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN.
00:13:14THE QUESTION IS WHETHER OR NOT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE RUNNING OUR
00:13:18PATRIOTS IN REGARDS TO THIS COUNTRY.
00:13:22I LIKE TO GO BY TRACK RECORD.
00:13:24WHAT DID THE PERSON DO WHEN THEY WERE IN OFFICE, AND DID THEY
00:13:27PROMISE THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BASICALLY DO WHAT THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO DO?
00:13:32WHEN IT COMES TO THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, I AM SORRY, THE
00:13:35DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS DEAD. THEY ALREADY BASICALLY HAVE
00:13:39GIVEN UP AND BASICALLY GIVEN UP
00:13:41TO THE FASCIST COMMUNISTS THAT
00:13:47ARE NOW TRYING TO INFILTRATE
00:13:51THEM. LIKE CHUCK SCHUMER, A DISGRACE TO THE JOB.
00:13:54THEY WILL SAY ANYTHING TO TRY TO GET BACK IN POWER.
00:14:00THESE PEOPLE WANT TO GET RID OF OUR GOVERNMENT.
00:14:02THEY DO NOT WANT A PRESIDENCY. THEY DO NOT WANT A SENATE, DO
00:14:06NOT WANT THE HOUSE. HOST: ARE YOU TALKING
00:14:10SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE AGENDA OF THE DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS?
00:14:15CALLER: THE DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS -- YOU KNOW, I FEEL
00:14:18SORRY FOR THE YOUNG PEOPLE TODAY. THEY HAVE BEEN SCREWED IN
00:14:22SCHOOL. THEY HAVE NOT BEEN TAUGHT THE PROPER HISTORY OF THE UNITED
00:14:25STATES OF AMERICA. WHEN THEY HAVE BEEN TAUGHT IS
00:14:28BASICALLY AN IDEOLOGY THAT HAS
00:14:31PUT UP -- THAT HAS BEEN PUT OUT THERE BY THE PEOPLE RUNNING OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM.
00:14:36SO THEY ARE MAKING DECISIONS ON THINGS THAT THEY REALLY KNOW
00:14:39NOTHING ABOUT. IF THEY TRULY UNDERSTOOD THE
00:14:43TRUE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, THEY WOULD COME UP TO A DIFFERENT CONCLUSION.
00:14:46SO I HAVE TO FEEL SORRY FOR THEM.
00:14:48THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR AT LEAST 30 YEARS.
00:14:52HOST: I WILL DIRECT YOU BACK TO THE QUESTION OF THE MORNING.
00:14:55WE DO LIVE IN A TWO-PARTY
00:15:01SYSTEM. CALLER: CAPITALISM VERSUS SOCIALISM AND COMMUNISM. THAT IS BASICALLY WHAT IS BEING
00:15:04RUN IN THIS COUNTRY RIGHT NOW.
00:15:07I WANT MY CHILDREN TO BE FREE.
00:15:11IF I HAVE TO SETTLE FOR THE
00:15:12LESSER OF TWO EVILS, EVEN THOUGH
00:15:15THINGS MAY NOT LOOK GOOD IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, YOU HAVE TO
00:15:19VOTE REPUBLICAN, WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT.
00:15:21BECAUSE THE DEMOCRATS, THEY HAVE NO PLAN.
00:15:24THEY CAN TELL YOU EVERYTHING GOING WRONG WITH THE COUNTRY, BUT THEY CAN'T TELL YOU
00:15:28BASICALLY WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO TO FIX IT. BUT THEY WILL TELL YOU WHO TO
00:15:32BLAME, AND THEY WILL BLAME THE
00:15:33PEOPLE THAT ARE THE RICH PEOPLE.
00:15:36HOST: BEFORE WE GO TO ANOTHER
00:15:40CALL, YOU SAID THINGS ARE NOT LOOKING THAT GREAT IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. WHAT DO YOU MEAN?
00:15:46YOU SAID THAT THINGS ARE NOT LOOKING THAT GREAT IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.
00:15:49YOU ARE A REPUBLICAN. WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT?
00:15:52CALLER: WHAT DO I MEAN BY THAT?
00:15:55WELL, I AM TECHNICALLY A REPUBLICAN PATRIOT.
00:15:57I BELIEVE IN THE PRINCIPLES OF THE CONSTITUTION.
00:16:00I WANT TO SEE PEOPLE BASICALLY
00:16:03USE THE CONSTITUTION AS THE
00:16:05BASIS FOR MAKING THEIR DECISIONS . I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE IN
00:16:09CONGRESS RIGHT NOW ARE NOT DOING THAT.
00:16:11THEY ARE BEING RUN BY PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES, RUN BY LOBBYISTS.
00:16:18THEY ARE NOT REALLY WORKING FOR THE PEOPLE, IN GENERAL.
00:16:21WE ARE VOTING FOR FREEDOM.
00:16:24THAT IS WHAT WE ARE VOTING FOR IN THIS COUNTRY.
00:16:27WE GOT TO SETTLE FOR THE LESSER OF TWO EVILS, WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT.
00:16:33I WAS STRICTLY INDEPENDENT BEFORE, NOW I HAVE TO BE A REPUBLICAN.
00:16:37HERE IS WHY I FEEL SORRY FOR
00:16:39PRESIDENT TRUMP.
00:16:42PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS TO UNWIND EVERYTHING THAT WAS DONE BY THE
00:16:45DEMOCRATIC PARTY THE LAST FOUR YEARS.
00:16:50OPEN BORDERS, LEEDY -- LEAVING
00:16:52$85 BILLION OF MILITARY EQUIPMENT BASICALLY IN AFGHANISTAN.
00:16:56HE HAS GOT TO REPLENISH EVERYTHING AND DO EVERYTHING,
00:16:59CHANGE EVERYTHING, AND IT WAS
00:17:03NOT DONE BY HIS ADMINISTRATION. HOST: ALL RIGHT. WE TAKE YOUR POINT.
00:17:07THAT WAS ROSEMARY FROM DELAWARE, REPUBLICAN.
00:17:10KEVIN FROM WINDSOR, CONNECTICUT, INDEPENDENT.
00:17:14WHAT PARTY DO YOU WANT TO CONTROL CONGRESS? CALLER: I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE
00:17:19DEMOCRATS. THAT LADY WAS WRONG.
00:17:22WITH THE CORRUPTION WITH THE
00:17:24CAPITALISM CORRUPTION GOING ON,
00:17:28PARDONS FOR FELONS, AND THERE IS
00:17:32NO SLUSH FUND FOR THE FARMERS.
00:17:36BUT THE REPUBLICANS GREENLIGHT
00:17:40EVERYTHING. THIS WORK, EVERYTHING. THERE ARE NO NUCLEAR WEAPONS.
00:17:46HEGSETH, THIS GUY HAS TO GO. HE DOES NOT EVEN KNOW WHAT A HERO IS.
00:17:52IN TEXAS, THERE WAS SOMEONE WHO
00:17:58ENLISTED IN WORLD WAR II,
00:18:01250,000 CHILDREN ENLISTED, AND
00:18:04THESE KIDS ARE WAR HEROES. PETE HEGSETH DOES NOT EVEN KNOW
00:18:07WHAT A WAR HERO LOOKS LIKE.
00:18:11IF HE STOPS HIDING WITH TRUMP IN
00:18:12THE TRUCK.
00:18:15BUT WE HAVE NO ALLIES.
00:18:20NATO -- YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NO ALLIES ANYMORE.
00:18:24IT IS CORRUPTION DOWN THERE IN WASHINGTON.
00:18:27WE HAVE TO GET OUT OF THIS WAR.
00:18:29SAUDI ARABIA, ISRAEL, THEY NEED
00:18:33TO START DEFENDING THEMSELVES. TRUMP MESSED UP IN THE MIDDLE
00:18:37EAST, NOW UKRAINE WITH THE DIESEL.
00:18:41THIS IS ALL TRUMP'S MESS RIGHT
00:18:44NOW, AND REPUBLICANS GREENLIGHT ALL OF IT.
00:18:46NOT STANDING UP TO TRUMP.
00:18:49REPUBLICAN PARTY WAS THE GUARD RAIL, BUT THEY FAILED TO DO THEIR JOBS.
00:18:54HOST: DARNETTE FROM THE BRONX,
00:19:01NEW YORK, DEMOCRAT. WHAT PARTY DO YOU WANT TO RUN
00:19:05CONGRESS? CALLER: DEMOCRAT. HOST: WHY DO YOU SAY THAT?
00:19:09CALLER: BECAUSE REPUBLICANS ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING.
00:19:11EVERY DAY THEY ARE ON BREAK.
00:19:13THE COUNTRY IS GOING WAY OVER THE BREACH.
00:19:17WE CANNOT EVEN PAY THE BILLS.
00:19:19AND THERE IS A WOMAN -- THE
00:19:23DEMOCRATS NEED TO CONTROL
00:19:25CONGRESS BECAUSE THE DEMOCRATS MAKE SENSE.
00:19:34REPUBLICAN IS NOT GOING THE PATHWAY ANYBODY CAN SEE IS HELPING ANYONE.
00:19:38THIS WOMAN THAT WAS JUST ON THE
00:19:43SHOW JUST HAD THINGS TWISTED,
00:19:51TALKING ABOUT DEMOCRATS. DOES SHE KNOW WHERE SHE IS LIVING?
00:19:54HOW IS SHE PAYING HER BILLS? HOST: ALL RIGHT.
00:19:59SINCE YOU SAID -- SHE SAID SHE
00:20:02WANTS DEMOCRATS TO WIN, LETS US INTERFACE THE NATION ON CBS
00:20:07YESTERDAY WERE CHRIS PAPPAS, THE CURRENT CONGRESSMAN RUNNING FOR THE SENATE SEAT, TALKED ABOUT
00:20:10THE PRIORITIES THAT DEMOCRATS
00:20:13WOULD HAVE IF THEY WON CONTROL OF THE CHAMBER. [VIDEO CLIP]
00:20:18>> IF DEMOCRATS FLOW CONTROL OF CONGRESS, WHAT SPECIFICALLY DOES
00:20:22THE PARTY WANTED TO DO TO STOP MR. TRUMP, AS YOU JUST LAID OUT?
00:20:28IS THAT IMPEACHMENT? IS THAT INVESTIGATION?
00:20:30>> CERTAINLY, THERE HAS TO BE ACCOUNTABILITY. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DESERVE TO
00:20:34WHAT -- TO KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON IN GOVERNMENT, AND ANY SORT OF
00:20:38CORRUPTION HAS TO BE ROOTED OUT. BUT WE HAVE TO FOCUS LIKE A
00:20:41LASER ON THE ECONOMIC CHALLENGES PEOPLE ARE LIVING.
00:20:44WE HAVE TO PUT SOMEONE'S ON THE BOARD FOR WORKERS THAN THE MIDDLE-CLASS, AND WE HAVE TO
00:20:48BUILD ON THE SUCCESS ON THE HOUSING BILL TO INVEST IN THE
00:20:52AFFORDABLE HOUSING STOCK.
00:20:56WE HAVE TO END THIS WAR IN LOWER ENERGY PRICES. RESTORE THE CUTS TO HEALTH CARE THAT ARE KEEPING THOUSANDS OFF
00:21:00OF THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE AND MAKING IT HARDER FOR PEOPLE TO ACCESS THE CARE THEY NEED.
00:21:05WE HAVE TO FOCUS WITH EVERYTHING WE GOT ON THE AFFORDABILITY
00:21:09AGENDA STARTING IN JANUARY.
00:21:10I THINK THAT IS A SHORT, MEDIUM,
00:21:13AND LONG-TERM STRATEGY ON THE ECONOMY.
00:21:20>> YOU SAID RESTORE SUBSIDIES, SO YOU WANT MORE
00:21:23GOVERNMENT SPENDING ON HEALTH CARE, IS THAT YOUR PLATFORM?
00:21:26>> I WANT NEW HAMPSHIRE FAMILIES TO BE ABLE TO GET HEALTH CARE
00:21:30PREMIUM THAT MAKES SENSE FOR THEM, THAT WILL ALLOW THEM TO
00:21:32PROVIDE FOR THEIR FAMILIES.
00:21:3517,000 FOLKS IN MY STATE HAVE DROPPED THEIR INSURANCE BECAUSE
00:21:39OF THE FAILURE TO EXTEND THE SUBSIDIES. WE ARE LOOKING AT A HUGE CUT
00:21:43WITH RESPECT TO MEDICAID THAT WILL DEVASTATE THE HOSPITALS,
00:21:46HEALTH CENTERS, NURSING HOMES, SPECIFICALLY IN TIME TO KICK IN
00:21:49AFTER THE ELECTION. SO IT IS BOTH MAKING THEIR
00:21:52AFFORDABLE CARE ACT WORK, TAKING THE INSURANCE AND PHARMACEUTICAL
00:21:56COMPANIES TO ACCOUNT TO LOWER
00:21:57PRICES, AND MAKING SURE BACKSTOPPING THESE CUTS TO
00:22:01MEDICAID SO RULE HEALTH CARE AND HEALTH CARE TO PEOPLE IN UNDERSERVED AREAS DOES NOT GET
00:22:05DISRUPTED AND DESTROYED BY THESE MAGA CUTS THAT WERE PART OF THE
00:22:09BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL LAST YEAR.
00:22:11HOST: THAT WAS CONGRESSMAN CHRIS PAPPAS OF NEW HAMPSHIRE, WHO IS
00:22:15ALSO RUNNING FOR A SENATE SEAT.
00:22:18SOME OF YOUR MESSAGES ONLINE AND OVER THE PHONE.
00:22:21FIRST FROM DAN WALSH, HE WRITES,
00:22:24NEITHER, THE TWO-PARTY SYSTEM IS FAILING AMERICA.
00:22:28THERE IS NO DEMOCRAT AND REPUBLICAN PARTY IN THE CONSTITUTION.
00:22:31THE TWO-PARTY SYSTEM HAS HIJACKED OUR GOVERNMENT.
00:22:34WE NEED AN AMERICAN PARTY THAT CARES ABOUT AMERICAN VALUES.
00:22:38THE NEXT MESSAGE SAYS, I WANT THE DEMOCRATS TOOK CONTROL BOTH
00:22:41HOUSES OF CONGRESS STARTING IN JANUARY. THEN THEY WILL HAVE THE DECISION
00:22:45OF WHETHER TO GOVERN OR SPEND ALL THEIR TIME CASTIGATING THE
00:22:48TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. IN EITHER CASE, THEY WON'T HAVE A VETOPROOF MAJORITY IN EITHER
00:22:52HOUSE. WHAT DEMOCRATS DO IN THIS TWO
00:22:54YEARS WILL INFORM AND PREPARE
00:22:59AMERICANS FOR THE 2028 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.
00:23:04NEXT FROM MIKE THORTON, UNFORTUNATELY, THE ONLY CHOICE FOR NOW IS DEMOCRATS. IT HAS TO BE STOPPED.
00:23:08AFTER THAT, THE DEMOCRATS WILL NEED TO SHOW THAT THEY ARE GOING
00:23:11TO GOVERN BASED ON THE PROGRAM OF ECONOMIC PATRIOTISM AND
00:23:14SOCIAL FREEDOM. REGARDLESS, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
00:23:17HAVE TO DEVELOP REAL ALTERNATIVES TO BOTH THE
00:23:20DEMOCRATIC AND REPUBLICAN PARTIES. WE DESPERATELY NEED MORE CHOICES
00:23:24AND BETTER CHOICES MOVING FORWARD.
00:23:27SEAN SAYS, REPUBLICANS BECAUSE THE DEMOCRATS HAVE BECOME THE
00:23:30PARTY OF THE INSANE. OPEN BORDERS AND AMNESTY FOR 20
00:23:34MILLION ILLEGALS ARE MORE THAT IS IN THIS COUNTRY DEPENDING ON
00:23:38WHO IS COUNTING. PLUS, THEY'RE TURNING MORE COMMUNIST.
00:23:44ANOTHER MESSAGE, THE REPUBLICAN
00:23:47PARTY, THE PARTY THAT WANTS SECURE BORDERS -- BORDERS.
00:23:50THE PARTY THAT CUTS WASTE AND FRAUD. THE PARTY THAT PROTECTS AND
00:23:54FIGHTS FOR AMERICAN CITIZENS RATHER THAN THOSE THAT ARE IN
00:23:58OUR COUNTRY ILLEGALLY. THE PARTY THAT GAVE US INCREASED
00:24:01CHILD TAXES, $6,000 MORE TAX
00:24:04FREE INCOME FOR SOCIAL SECURITY RECIPIENTS.
00:24:06THOSE ARE SOME ONLINE MESSAGES. THE QUESTION THIS MORNING IS,
00:24:10WHAT PARTY DO YOU WANT TO CONTROL CONGRESS? THAT'S TURNED BACK TO PHONE
00:24:14CALLS. HOWARD FROM OHIO, REPUBLICAN. GOOD MORNING.
00:24:20CALLER: GOOD MORNING.
00:24:23YEAH, PEOPLE, THE UNITED STATES NEEDS TO WAKE UP.
00:24:25THE RICH RUN OUR COUNTRY.
00:24:30WHY WOULD YOU SPEND TENS OF
00:24:33MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, OR HUNDREDS
00:24:37OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, ON A
00:24:39CAMPAIGN THAT ONLY PAYS $100,000 A YEAR?
00:24:43WHAT DOES PEOPLE THINK?
00:24:46THE RICH RUNS THE COUNTRY.
00:24:49STOP ALL DONATIONS. LET EVERY CANDIDATE GET
00:24:53TAXPAYERS MONEY, A CERTAIN AMOUNT. IF THEY CANNOT RUN A CAMPAIGN ON
00:24:57A BUDGET, THEY SURE AS HECK CAN'T RUN A CAMPAIGN ON A
00:25:01COUNTRY OR A STATE. WHAT IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE?
00:25:05WAKE UP.
00:25:08GET THE DONATION OUT OF THE BUSINESS.
00:25:13I DON'T SEE HOW ANYBODY CAN HAVE
00:25:16ANY PROBLEMS WITH THAT. THERE'S MONEY FROM OTHER STATES
00:25:19TO COME IN, MONEY FROM OTHER COUNTRIES THAT COME IN.
00:25:22THEY ARE RUNNING YOUR COUNTRY. WAKE UP.
00:25:25HOST: ALL RIGHT, HOWARD. LET ME ASK YOU QUICKLY, BECAUSE
00:25:29THE PRESIDENT IS EXPECTED TO RALLY IN OHIO FOR JOHN WHO STEAD LATER ON TODAY.
00:25:34YOU CALLED IN ON THE REPUBLICAN LINE, ARE YOU LOOKING FORWARD TO
00:25:39THE PRESIDENT'S VISIT? CALLER: I DON'T CARE IF HE COMES HERE OR NOT.
00:25:43I AM A REPUBLICAN HERE. I AM 67 YEARS OLD.
00:25:45THE WAY I SEE IT, THE REPUBLICANS WANT TO TAKE ALL THE
00:25:49MONEY AND GIVE YOU ALL THE RULES
00:25:52AND TELL YOU HOW TO RUN YOUR LIFE.
00:25:56AND THEY WANTED TO TAKE YOUR MONEY AND GIVE IT TO WHOEVER
00:25:58THEY DEEM THAT NEEDS IT.
00:26:01NO, STOP THAT. COME ON, GET REAL.
00:26:05PEOPLE ARE SO LAZY NOWADAYS,
00:26:08THIS GENERATION DON'T WANT TO DO NOTHING.
00:26:10THEY WANT EVERYTHING HANDED TO THEM.
00:26:13WE NEED TO GET BACK TO WHERE WE
00:26:15WAS IN THE 1980'S AND 1990'S.
00:26:21THIS IS JUST CRAZY, TOTALLY CRAZY.
00:26:24HOST: ALL RIGHT. MEL FROM FLORIDA, DEMOCRAT.
00:26:29GOOD MORNING. WHICH PARTY DO YOU WANT TO
00:26:32CONTROL CONGRESS? CALLER: GOOD MORNING. I WANT THE DEMOCRATS TO CONTROL
00:26:36BOTH THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE.
00:26:38I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SOME
00:26:41PROTECTIONS AGAINST THE
00:26:45EXECUTIVE POWERS THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS EXHIBITED. AND I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT
00:26:50THING IN THE PEOPLE FEELING IT
00:26:54THE WORSE ARE THE FARMERS OF THIS COUNTRY.
00:26:57WITH THE INCREASED PRICES OF DIESEL, INCREASED PRICES AND
00:27:02FERTILIZER. WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND REMEMBER
00:27:06WHAT HAPPENED IN 2015 WHEN ALL
00:27:11THESE POOR FARMERS COULD NO LONGER SELL SOYBEANS TO CHINA.
00:27:15THEIR CROPS ROTTED IN THE FIELDS.
00:27:18TRUMP WAS NICE ENOUGH TO GIVE
00:27:20THEM A $20 BILLION BAILOUT. BUT WE HAVE TO REMEMBER, EVEN
00:27:24AFTER THE 2026 ELECTIONS, WE ARE
00:27:30STILL GOING TO HAVE TRUMP AS PRESIDENT. AND WE DO NOT KNOW IF OUR
00:27:33FARMERS WILL BE ABLE TO SELL THEIR PRODUCTS WORLDWIDE.
00:27:38AND THE FARMERS ARE THE ONES
00:27:40THAT FEED THE COUNTRY.
00:27:42WE HAVE ACTUALLY BURNED FOOD AND LET FOOD BROUGHT IN THE FIELD.
00:27:46HOST: LET ME ASK YOU, SINCE YOU SAID YOU WANT DEMOCRATS TO CONTROL BOTH THE HOUSE AND THE
00:27:51SENATE IN ORDER TO PERHAPS
00:27:55REFUTE THE ACTIONS FROM THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH.
00:27:58DO YOU TRUST DEMOCRATS ENOUGH TO DO SO IF THEY DO WHEN BACK AT
00:28:02LEAST THE HOUSE, TO PUSH AGAINST THIS PRESIDENT?
00:28:05CALLER: I THINK IF THEY HAVE CONTROL OF THE POCKETBOOK,
00:28:08THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE TAKING
00:28:09MONEY FROM -- CHANGING STATUTES.
00:28:16GOLDEN BUILDING NEW BALLROOMS OR WHATEVER, I THINK SOME OF THAT
00:28:20MONEY WOULD FIND ITS WAY TO SNAP AND FEED THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN
00:28:24THIS COUNTRY.
00:28:26I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO SORT OF
00:28:29WORK MY WAY UP, BUT THERE ARE A
00:28:32LOT OF PEOPLE THAT FOOD IS FOOD.
00:28:38IF WE DID NOT BURN IT AND WE WERE ABLE TO GIVE IT TO A SNAP
00:28:42PROGRAM OR GIVE PEOPLE FREE
00:28:44LUNCHES, I PUT THAT STUFF AWAY,
00:28:46THAT IS IN -- IMPORTANT IF YOU WILL THAT OUR CITIZENS DESERVE.
00:28:53I THINK THE SENATE WOULD CONTROL TARIFFS.
00:28:57OUR TRADE AGREEMENTS, ESPECIALLY FOR OUR FARMERS WOULD BE BETTER
00:29:01AROUND THE WORLD.
00:29:02EVEN IF WE GIVE IT AWAY FOR NOTHING, THAT IS THE BEST
00:29:07DIPLOMACY YOU CAN DO.
00:29:10UNFORTUNATELY, OUR COUNTRY NO LONGER DOES THAT LIKE THEY DID
00:29:12IN THE PAST. I THINK HAVING CONTROL OF BOTH
00:29:16HOUSES, HOPEFULLY COLLECTIVELY THEY CAN DRAW BACK ON THE POWERS
00:29:20OF THE PRESIDENT AND START
00:29:24TAKING CARE OF THE REAL
00:29:26AMERICANS, THE ONES THEY GET THE
00:29:30DIRT UNDER THEIR FINGERNAILS.
00:29:33ONCE YOU FEED US AND SERVICE US.
00:29:36I THINK THINGS WORK -- I KNOW WE
00:29:39HAVE A LOT OF ILLEGALS, BUT YOU
00:29:41KNOW WHAT, WITH THE ILLEGALS, OUR SYSTEM WORKS.
00:29:45WHAT WE SHOULD TRY TO DO SOMEHOW GET THESE PEOPLE ON THE TAX ROLLS, DO SOMETHING.
00:29:49I WOULD RATHER HAVE THOSE PEOPLE
00:29:52WORKING THAN TAKING FOOD AND BURNING IT AND HAVING OUR KIDS
00:29:56NOT HAVE BREAKFAST AND LUNCH IN SCHOOL.
00:29:58HOST: THAT IS NO FROM FLORIDA, DEMOCRAT.
00:30:01ALAN FROM DALLAS, REPUBLICAN. WHICH PARTY DO YOU WANT TO
00:30:05CONTROL CONGRESS?
00:30:08CALLER: YES, PARTY TO CONTROL CONGRESS?
00:30:11I BELIEVE WE ARE POSSIBLY GOING
00:30:13TO SEE A DEMOCRATIC SENATE AND
00:30:17REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT. BUT WHAT I WAS THINKING WAS I
00:30:20WOULD LIKE TO ATTEMPT TO MAKE A
00:30:23DEAL -- I DO BELIEVE THAT VOTING
00:30:28MATTERS.
00:30:29IF YOU ARE AN INTELLIGENT,
00:30:34TITLE-HAVING, OPINIONATED
00:30:37INTELLECTUAL, VOTING DEFINITELY MATTERS. BUT THE VOTE IS NOT ALL THAT MATTERS WHEN IT COMES TO THE
00:30:42ELECTION. I WAS THINKING WE SHOULD ATTEMPT
00:30:45TO MAKE A DEAL WITH DEMOCRATS TO GET THEM SENATE SEATS AND EVEN A
00:30:49PRESIDENCY.
00:30:52I WOULD LIKE TO SEE BARRON TRUMP ATTEMPT TO BECOME A 33-YEAR-OLD
00:30:56PRESIDENT, SEEING A TRUMP
00:30:59PRESIDENT AT THAT AGE OF 33.
00:31:04IF BARRON TRUMP DECIDES TO TAKE
00:31:08POLITICO MULTI -- POLITICALITY,
00:31:18IN HIS STUDIES, HE WOULD THEN BE
00:31:19A 33-YEAR-OLD PRESIDENT.
00:31:22BUT I THINK THE DEMOCRATS WILL HAVE THE SENATE.
00:31:26THEY WILL HAVE THREE LAWS TO
00:31:30PASS. IF THEY ATTEMPT TO PASS
00:31:34DEMOCRATIC LAWS WITH A
00:31:37DEMOCRATIC SENATE, IT WILL
00:31:41POSSIBLY BE A CONSPIRACY.
00:31:47THE PRESIDENT CAN ONLY USE HIS POWER A VETO ON ONE OF THE LAWS,
00:31:51SO THEY WILL STILL HAVE TWO.
00:31:54HOST: ALL RIGHT, THAT IS ALAN FROM DALLAS, REPUBLICAN.
00:31:58MILTON FROM PHILADELPHIA, DEMOCRAT. WHICH PARTY DO YOU WANT TO
00:32:01CONTROL CONGRESS? CALLER: THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY
00:32:05CALL. I WANT THE DEMOCRATS TO CONTROL
00:32:07THE CONGRESS, AND I INTEND TO VOTE DEMOCRAT.
00:32:11ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I WANT DEMOCRATS IS NOT SO MUCH
00:32:14IMPEACHMENT BUT TO INVESTIGATE
00:32:15THE CONTINUING GRAFTING BY
00:32:20DONALD TRUMP -- GRIFTING BY
00:32:25DONALD TRUMP. SINCE HE BECAME PRESIDENT, HIS
00:32:27FAMILY HAS MADE OVER $2 BILLION.
00:32:31THE CORRUPTION KEEPS GOING ON AND ON AND ON.
00:32:33I HOPE THAT CHUCK SCHUMER AND JEFFRIES, THEY WILL HOLD AN IMPEACHMENT VOTE.
00:32:39THEY NEED TO CHECK TRUMP.
00:32:41IN SCHUMER'S CASE, BLOCK SOME OF
00:32:45THESE LOONEY TUNES HE APPOINTED TO HIS CABINET.
00:32:48HOST: LET ME ASK YOU, YOU DO NOT WANT TO SEE DEMOCRATS IMPEACH THE PRESIDENT?
00:32:54CALLER: NO, I THINK IT WOULD BE POLITICAL SUICIDE. BUT THEY SHOULD INVESTIGATE HIM.
00:32:59HOST: DO YOU WANT TO SEE THEM
00:33:04INVESTIGATE ANYTHING SPECIFICALLY? I KNOW YOU TALKED A BIT ABOUT
00:33:06HOW MUCH MONEY THE PRESIDENT HAS MADE SINCE RETURNING TO OFFICE.
00:33:10ANY SPECIFIC TYPE OF INVESTIGATION YOU WOULD WANT TO SEE?
00:33:15CALLER: YES, LIKE HIS CONTRACTS
00:33:20AND HIS SON-IN-LAW JARED KERSHNER GETTING. HE ALSO CONDUCTS FOREIGN POLICY
00:33:24AT THE SAME TIME HE IS DOING SIDE BUSINESS DEALS.
00:33:27COULD YOU IMAGINE IF THIS WAS
00:33:29HUNTER BIDEN OR ONE OF THE
00:33:32SON-IN-LAW'S DOING SIDE DEALS WHY HE IS CONDUCTING FOREIGN
00:33:36POLICY? WHAT DO WE HAVE A SECRETARY OF STATE FOR?
00:33:39HE CONTINUES HIS GRIFTING.
00:33:46IT SHOULD BE ALARMING TO EVERYONE.
00:33:48HOST: I BELIEVE HE WAS TALKING
00:33:51ABOUT JARED KERSHNER AND HIS FIRM.
00:33:54JARED KERSHNER TWEETED A FEW DAYS AGO, A WEBSITE IN WHICH HE
00:33:57REFUSED TO SOME OF THE CLAIMS MADE IN RECENT REPORTING, IF YOU
00:34:01WANT TO TAKE A LOOK.
00:34:04TO ILLINOIS, REPUBLICAN. GOOD MORNING.
00:34:09CARLA, GOOD MORNING.
00:34:13HOST: GOOD MORNING.
00:34:15I WOULD SAY REPUBLICAN.
00:34:23I LISTEN TO THE DEMOCRATS, AND FIRST THING THEY'RE GOING TO DO
00:34:26IS TRY TO IMPEACH A TRUMP. THEY DID NOT DO NO GOOD WHEN
00:34:29THEY WERE IN THEIR THE FIRST TIME, OR THE LAST TIME,
00:34:33WHATEVER. THEY HAD JOE BIDEN'S PRESIDENT.
00:34:35THEY DID NOT IMPEACH HIM, BUT HE
00:34:38SHOULD HAVE BEEN IMPEACHED AND PUT IN PRISON FOR TREASON.
00:34:43EVERYBODY TALKS ABOUT HOW BAD
00:34:45TRUMP IS, YOU KNOW, HE JUST
00:34:50CLOSED DOWN THE BORDER. JOE BIDEN DIDN'T.
00:34:55THEY CUT WASTE, FRAUD, AND ABUSE
00:34:56OF MONEY.
00:34:59THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT TRUMP DID THAT HE IS NOT GETTING
00:35:02CREDIT FOR, AND I THINK IT IS KIND OF WRONG. SO I WOULD SAY REPUBLICAN.
00:35:07BECAUSE I KNOW IT IS NOT GOING
00:35:09TO PROBABLY HAPPEN, IT WILL PROBABLY BE DEMOCRATS IN THE
00:35:12HOUSE OR SENATE, ONE OF THE TWO. BUT IF THEY IMPEACH TRUMP, LIKE
00:35:17THE GUY SAID BEFORE, IT IS SUICIDE.
00:35:20HOST: I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU, WHAT YOU THOUGHT OF THE
00:35:23DEMOCRATS SAYING HE DID NOT WANT DEMOCRATS TO IMPEACH TRUMP.
00:35:27CALLER: I DON'T WANT THEM TO IMPEACH HIM BECAUSE, LIKE HE
00:35:30SAID, IT WOULD BE POLITICAL SUICIDE.
00:35:34BECAUSE REPUBLICANS, WHEN THEY
00:35:37GOT IN A FEW YEARS AGO, THEY DID
00:35:40NOT IMPEACH BIDEN AND THEY
00:35:43SHOULD HAVE. HOST: IN 2022.
00:35:46CALLER: YEAH, THEY SHOULD HAVE IMPEACHED HIM WHEN HE GOT BACK
00:35:49INTO CONTROL AND THEY DIDN'T. THEY WENT THROUGH AND LET HIM
00:35:53STAY IN.
00:35:55THAT IS HOW THEY SHOULD DO TRUMP APPEAR LIKE THEY SAY, TOO, THAT
00:35:59IS A WASTE OF MONEY THERE, THEY HAVE TO HOLD ALL THE TRIALS.
00:36:03HOST: ALL RIGHT. LAST WORD.
00:36:06ALL RIGHT, THAT'S CARLA FROM ILLINOIS, REPUBLICAN.
00:36:10JOHNNY FROM FLORIDA, DEMOCRAT. GOOD MORNING. THE QUESTION IS, WHAT PARTY DO
00:36:15YOU WANT TO CONTROL CONGRESS? CALLER: DEMOCRATS, OF COURSE.
00:36:20WE NEED TO GET RID OF TRUMP, HIS
00:36:23WHOLE ADMINISTRATION.
00:36:26I HOPE AND PRAY THAT THE
00:36:29DEMOCRATS WIN FLORIDA AND GET
00:36:32RID OF THIS KNOW GOOD GOVERNOR
00:36:35WE HAVE -- GOVERNMENT WE HAVE THAT IS STEALING MONEY IN
00:36:37ROBBING PEOPLE, DOING THAT THING.
00:36:40WE DEFINITELY NEED A NEW PRESIDENT.
00:36:42I AM HOPING THAT MICHELLE OBAMA WILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT.
00:36:45I WOULD LOVE TO SEE HER RUN FOR PRESIDENT.
00:36:49SHE WOULD MAKE A GREAT PRESIDENT. WE NEED TO GET RID OF TRUMP.
00:36:53IMPEACH HIM, YES, GET RID OF HIM IN ANY WAY.
00:36:55HE HAS NOT DONE ANYTHING BUT TAKE MONEY AND GOT RICH OFF THE PEOPLE.
00:36:59IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING FAST,
00:37:01WE ARE ALL GOING DOWN IN THE BOAT. HOST: THAT IS JOHNNY FROM
00:37:06FLORIDA, A DEMOCRAT. LET'S TAKE A LISTEN TO HAKEEM
00:37:09JEFFRIES ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL
00:37:12ON SATURDAY, SPEAKING ABOUT
00:37:15FUNDRAISING WITH THE DNC AND OUTREACH IN THE UPCOMING MIDTERMS. [VIDEO CLIP]
00:37:20>> SPEAKER JOHNSON HAS BEEN
00:37:23SPEAKING OF A RECORD-BREAKING FUNDRAISING CYCLE FOR HIM IN
00:37:26DIFFERENT GOP GROUPS OUT OF THE MIDTERMS.
00:37:28BUT THE SHIFT IN POLLS KEEP LEANING TOWARDS DEMOCRATS.
00:37:31WHY DO YOU THINK WE ARE SEEING THOSE FAVORS AND PULLS TOWARDS
00:37:36THE DNC, AND ARE YOU WORRIED
00:37:39ABOUT IT? >> WHAT IS INTERESTING IS A
00:37:42CYCLE TO DATE, HOUSE DEMOCRATS HAVE OUTRAISED THE REPUBLICAN
00:37:45CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE.
00:37:48AND AFFILIATED GROUPS THAT ARE
00:37:51WORKING HARD FOR US TO TAKE BACK CONTROL OF THE HOUSE HAVE HAD A
00:37:55RECORD-BREAKING CYCLE. BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THE
00:37:58AMERICAN PEOPLE RECOGNIZE THAT REPUBLICANS HAVE UNLEASHED
00:38:02UNPRECEDENTED EXTREMISM.
00:38:04THE COUNTRY HAS NOT GOTTEN MORE
00:38:06AFFORDABLE, IT HAS GOTTEN MORE EXPENSIVE.
00:38:09REPUBLICANS HAVE THROWN US INTO THIS RECKLESS AND COSTLY WAR OF
00:38:13CHOICE THAT, IN A MAJORITY, IS A
00:38:15MEMBER OF CONGRESS, CONTINUING TO FIGHT HARD, WE NEED TO END
00:38:19THIS WAR FOR THE SAKE OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND FOR THE GOOD
00:38:22OF OUR OWN NATIONAL SECURITY.
00:38:25AS A RESULT OF THESE THINGS, WE
00:38:27ARE 24 DAYS AWAY FROM TAKING BACK CONTROL OF THE HOUSE,
00:38:31BECAUSE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT US TO END THIS NATIONAL NIGHTMARE.
00:38:36HOST: THAT WAS DEMOCRATIC HOUSE LEADER HAKEEM JEFFRIES TALKING
00:38:39ABOUT FUNDING FROM THE DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSIONAL
00:38:42CAMPAIGN PAC AND OTHER ALLIED
00:38:47GROUPS. THAT WAS FOOTAGE ON THE TRAIL ON
00:38:52SATURDAY, AS WE GO INTO THE MIDTERM ELECTIONS.
00:38:55CLARENCE FROM BALTIMORE, INDEPENDENT.
00:38:58QUESTION, WHAT PARTY DO YOU WANT TO CONTROL CONGRESS?
00:39:02CALLER: FIRST, I WANT TO SAY
00:39:04HAKEEM JEFFRIES AND SCHUMER FOR
00:39:09THE DEMOCRATS, THEY JUST SELECT SNAKES TO ME.
00:39:12I AM A DEMOCRAT. THOSE TWO GUYS JUST SOUND LIKE
00:39:15SNAKES TO ME AND I DON'T LIKE THEM. BUT EVERYONE ELSE IS COOL.
00:39:20I WOULD LIKE FOR THE HOUSE AND
00:39:25THE SENATE TO BE DEMOCRATS
00:39:26BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONES THAT
00:39:30HAVE BEEN VOTING FOR KIDS TO
00:39:33HAVE FREE FOOD. REPUBLICANS HAVEN'T, SO I AM
00:39:36KIND OF GOING OFF ON THAT STANCE.
00:39:39LET -- IF YOU DO NOT LET A KID
00:39:42HAVE FREE FOOD, I AM OPPOSED TO YOUR THINKING AND IDEOLOGY.
00:39:46ALSO, I AM HOPING THAT IF
00:39:49DEMOCRATS GET INTO EITHER OF THE HOUSES, THAT THEY DON'T SPEND
00:39:53ALL THE TIME TRYING TO FIGHT AGAINST WHATEVER TRUMP DID.
00:39:57I WOULD LIKE THEM TO JUST GET MOVING.
00:40:00IT IS WHAT IT IS. AND TAKE WHATEVER HE DID THAT
00:40:05WAS GOOD, BOUNCE OFF OF THAT, AND NOT NITPICK ALL THE OTHER
00:40:08STUFF HE DID NOT DO THAT DID NOT GET ACCOMPLISHED.
00:40:13JUST NITPICK ON THOSE. TRY TO MOVE FORWARD.
00:40:16I FEEL LIKE ONCE I GET IN, THEY WILL SPEND THE MAJORITY OF THEIR
00:40:20TIME COMPLAINING AND SAYING FROM DID THIS, TRUMP DID THAT,
00:40:24NOTHING WILL GET ACCOMPLISHED. AND IT WILL MAKE IT POINTLESS TO
00:40:27EVEN HAVE THEM IN THERE.
00:40:33BUT I AM HOPING THEY CAN GET PAST THAT INTO SOMETHING.
00:40:36OTHER THAN THAT, I'M VOTING FOR DEMOCRATS.
00:40:39HOST: YOU WANT TO SEE DEMOCRATS PASSED LEGISLATION.
00:40:41DO YOU BELIEVE THAT DEMOCRATS
00:40:46LEADERSHIP IN THE HOUSE OR SENATE IF THEY WERE SUCCESSFUL?
00:40:52CALLER: YEAH. MATTER OF FACT, FROM BOTH PARTIES.
00:40:54ALL THEM OLD PEOPLE, GET THEM OUT. THEY OLD.
00:40:58ANYONE OVER 68, 60, GET THEM OUT.
00:41:02GET SOME NEW BLOOD IN THERE. ALL THEM OLD FOLKS IN THERE,
00:41:06OLD-TIMERS, GET THEM OUT. GET THE YOUNG BLOOD IN THERE,
00:41:09NEW DOGS, NEW THINKING, ALL THAT.
00:41:14GET THE OLD PEOPLE OUT, GET SOME
00:41:17NEW BLOOD IN THERE, AND START FROM THERE. I'M TIRED OF SEEING ALL OF THE
00:41:21OLD PEOPLE CALLING AND TALKING AND SAYING ALL THIS STUFF LIKE
00:41:24THE GOOD OLD DAYS, WHATEVER, WHATEVER. GET THEM OUT.
00:41:28GET THE NEW BLOOD IN THERE.
00:41:30ANYBODY LISTENING, IF YOU KNOW
00:41:32SOMEBODY THAT IS YOUNG AND THEY DRIVE IN THE MORNING AND DO
00:41:36STUFF, HAVE THEM LISTEN TO THIS AND HAVE THEM CALL AND WHATNOT.
00:41:39WE NEED SOME NEW BLOOD IN THIS WORLD.
00:41:42ALL THESE OLD FOLKS, JUST GET THEM OUT. HOST: ALL RIGHT.
00:41:47RICK FROM RICHMOND, VIRGINIA, REPUBLICAN. GOOD MORNING.
00:41:50WHICH PARTY DO YOU WANT TO CONTROL CONGRESS?
00:41:55CALLER: REPUBLICAN, ABSOLUTELY.
00:41:58I AM A DAY TRADER.
00:42:02IF THE 401(K) CRASHES -- WE HAVE ALREADY LOST EVERYTHING, WE ARE
00:42:05NOT COMING BACK PEER LARGEST
00:42:08MIGRATION TO EVER TAKE PLACE IN MANKIND'S HISTORY.
00:42:10DID NOT COME BACK FROM SLAVERY. NEVER COMING BACK FROM THIS,
00:42:14JUST NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
00:42:17NOBODY, TRUMP, NOBODY CAN TURN
00:42:19AROUND WHAT BIDEN DID. IT IS NOT PLAUSIBLE TO THINK
00:42:23THAT THEY COULD.
00:42:26YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON
00:42:29IN THE UNITED STATES RIGHT NOW,
00:42:32DEMOCRATS ARE BAD DOCTORS. THERE'S NOTHING BETTER THAN A GOOD DOCTOR AND NOTHING WORSE
00:42:36THAN A BAD DOCTOR. I THINK THAT EVERYBODY WILL JUST
00:42:40PAY ATTENTION TO THEIR MONEY.
00:42:45A PIECE OF PAPER WITH A PICTURE ON A DECEASED NOBLE ON IT HAS
00:42:48LOST 50% OF THE VALUE IN THE
00:42:51LAST SIX YEARS.
00:42:56I AM A REPUBLICAN.
00:42:59BUT I MAY NOT LIKE REPUBLICANS.
00:43:02I JUST AM GOING TO STAY ON THE
00:43:05REPUBLICAN COURSE BECAUSE THE DEMOCRATS BASICALLY, IN MY MIND,
00:43:10IN MY IGNORANCE, HAVE LOST THEIR MINDS.
00:43:13WITH THE LGBTQ IN THE WORLD
00:43:15TODAY, THERE'S NO COMING BACK
00:43:19FROM ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION AND LGBTQ.
00:43:22HOST: JERRY FROM CALIFORNIA, A DEMOCRAT.
00:43:25GOOD MORNING, TERRY. CALLER: GOOD MORNING. I THINK IT SHOULD BE THE DEMOCRATS.
00:43:29AT THIS POINT, WHAT WE NEED TO
00:43:31DO IS STOP SOME OF THE MAJOR
00:43:33THINGS GOING ON THAT ARE
00:43:36BASICALLY DESTROYING US.
00:43:39THE PLACES ARE OUT OF CONTROL. WE CAN'T AFFORD ANYTHING.
00:43:43I LISTEN TO PEOPLE TALK ABOUT
00:43:45HOW THE LAST TIME TRUMP WAS IN
00:43:50OFFICE AND IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT
00:43:52HAPPENED TO THE FARMERS, HE WAS
00:43:55GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO GIVE THEM $28 BILLION FOR A BAILOUT.
00:43:59THAT COMES FROM OUR TAX DOLLARS.
00:44:03EARLIER, YOU SHOWED THE
00:44:08GENTLEMAN RUNNING FOR SENATE ON
00:44:09MEET THE PRESS, I THINK, AND THE
00:44:14REPORTER SAID, YOU WANT MORE GOVERNMENT SPENDING.
00:44:17NOT ONE TIME HAVE I HEARD
00:44:19SOMEONE SAY, HOW ARE YOU PAYING
00:44:22FOR THIS WORK? HOW ARE WE PAYING FOR ALL THE
00:44:25THINGS THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY IN IT?
00:44:29NO BUDGETING, NO ANYTHING.
00:44:33WE ARE $40 TRILLION IN DEBT, AND
00:44:36EVERYONE, BOTH REPUBLICANS AND THE DEMOCRATS, SEEM TO IGNORE THAT.
00:44:40THEY NEED TO STOP SOME OF THIS STUFF.
00:44:43ALL THE ILLEGAL THINGS GOING ON,
00:44:46THE GOVERNMENT SPENDING ON ADS
00:44:48-- THEY NEED TO ENFORCE THE
00:44:52EMOLUMENTS CLAUSE. THEY NEED TO BASICALLY INVESTIGATE TRUMP.
00:44:56I DO NOT WANT TO SEE HIM IMPEACHED.
00:44:59HOWEVER, I WANT TO SEE ALL THE ILLEGAL FUNDS THAT HE AND HIS
00:45:03FAMILY HAVE MADE GIVEN BACK TO THE U.S. TREASURY.
00:45:06WE NEED TO START LOOKING AT HOW
00:45:10TO CORRECT ALL OF THIS BECAUSE WE ARE THE MOST HATED COUNTRY.
00:45:17PEOPLE THINK WE ARE VERY VIABLE.
00:45:19YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT DOING A
00:45:21LIVE EXECUTION ON TV, STREAMING
00:45:25IT LIVE. LIKE, WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?
00:45:29PEOPLE HAVE GONE COMPLETELY OUT OF THEIR MINDS.
00:45:33AND THE THING THAT BOTHERS ME IS THAT YOU HEAR A LOT OF PEOPLE
00:45:36TALKING ABOUT, OH, WE HAD OPEN BORDERS.
00:45:40I DON'T KNOW IF THE BORDER WAS OPEN OR IT WAS CLOSED.
00:45:42WE HAD PEOPLE GETTING OVER HERE ILLEGALLY.
00:45:46THOSE THAT HAVE COME OVER HERE
00:45:49LEGALLY -- ILLEGALLY, THEY NEED TO BE DEPORTED.
00:45:53I AGREE, THEY NEED TO GO BACK.
00:45:55HOWEVER, THEY DO NOT NEED TO BE KILLED.
00:46:01THEY DO NOT NEED TO BE -- THE
00:46:03LAWLESSNESS GOING ON WITH ICE. ALL OF THESE THINGS NEEDS TO
00:46:07STOP. AND COMMON SENSE NEEDS TO COME INTO PLAY.
00:46:10WE ALSO NEED PEOPLE WITH ETHICS.
00:46:12EVERYONE IS IN THERE, COMES IN POOR RIGHT NOW IN CONGRESS AND
00:46:17THEY ARE LEAVING
00:46:19MULTIMILLIONAIRES BECAUSE OF THE INSIDER-TRADING GOING ON.
00:46:24WE JUST NEED TO HAVE PEOPLE WITH ETHICS.
00:46:27THE LAST THING I WILL SAY IS
00:46:30THAT I AM SO TIRED OF PEOPLE
00:46:33TALKING ABOUT COMMUNISTS AND SOCIALISM AND THEY DO NOT KNOW
00:46:38THE DIFFERENCE AND THEY DO NOT KNOW THE DEFINITION.
00:46:41IF THAT IS THE CASE, TAKE SOCIAL
00:46:44SECURITY AND GET RID OF IT,
00:46:45BECAUSE THAT IS A SOCIAL PROGRAM.
00:46:48HOST: ALL RIGHT. SHE SAID SHE WANTS TO SEE
00:46:51DEMOCRATS IN OFFICE COME JANUARY.
00:46:54LET'S TAKE A LISTEN TO MIKE ROGERS, SENATE CANDIDATE ON THE
00:46:58REPUBLICAN SIDE IN MICHIGAN, TALKING TO REPORTERS ABOUT WHAT
00:47:01HE WANTS TO SEE IN CONGRESS IF HE IS ELECTED. [VIDEO CLIP]
00:47:06>> FIRST OF ALL, I THINK WE CAN
00:47:10GO BACK AND HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE PRESIDENT ABOUT WHAT MICHIGAN NEEDS.
00:47:13RIGHT NOW, WE DO NOT HAVE THAT. WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE THAT GET UP
00:47:18EVERY MORNING AND STABBED THEM IN THE BACK AND CANNOT WAIT TO DO IT.
00:47:21MY ARGUMENT IS SIN ONE PERSON BACK TO SAY, MR. PRESIDENT, THIS
00:47:24IS BAD FOR US, THIS IS REALLY GOOD FOR US. CAN YOU DO THIS?
00:47:28WE HAVE NOT HAD THAT IN OVER A QUARTER.
00:47:30MY ARGUMENT IS, THIS IS THE CHANCE.
00:47:33HE WILL BE THERE TWO YEARS, THAN HE IS GONE.
00:47:36MY OPPONENT TALKS ABOUT BUILDING A MOVEMENT, TALKS ABOUT RUNNING
00:47:39FOR PRESIDENT IN 20 28.
00:47:46GREAT, WE'RE GOING TO GET THERE IN MICHIGAN WILL BE THE LAST THING ON YOUR MIND. IT WILL BE EVERY DAY, ALL DAY,
00:47:48SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, 24 HOURS A DAY. I AM GOING TO STOP THINKING
00:47:52ABOUT WHAT I DO FOR MICHIGAN AFTER -- 20 MINUTES AFTER I GO
00:47:55TO SLEEP AND START THINKING ABOUT IT 20 MINUTES BEFORE I WAKE UP.
00:47:58WE HAVE NOT HAD THAT.
00:47:59WE HAD TO CHANGE THE DIRECTION
00:48:02OF MICHIGAN WHERE WE ARE IN SERIOUS TROUBLE HERE.
00:48:05HOST: THAT IS MIKE, SENATE
00:48:07REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE IN MICHIGAN
00:48:10ON SATURDAY, TALKING ABOUT WHAT HE WANTS TO SEE MICHIGAN IF YOU
00:48:12WERE TO WIN THE ELECTION.
00:48:19CARL FROM ANNAPOLIS, INDEPENDENT. CALLER: MORNING.
00:48:22CAN YOU HEAR ME? HOST: I SURE CAN. CALLER: I DON'T WANT EITHER
00:48:26PARTY TO BE TAKING OVER CONTROL. I HAVE BEEN WATCHING POLITICS --
00:48:30ACTUALLY, I STARTED VOTING IN 1972.
00:48:34YOU GO FROM ONE EXTREME TO THE OTHER, EITHER FAR RIGHT OR FAR LEFT.
00:48:38WE HAVE A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF BOTH PARTIES THAT DECIDE WHAT
00:48:41CANDIDATES THE REST OF US HAVE TO CHOOSE FROM.
00:48:44I WOULD LIKE TO SEE OPEN PRIMARIES IN EVERY STATE, STATE
00:48:48TO STATE, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WERE EVERYONE CAN VOTE FOR
00:48:52THESE PEOPLE THEY ARE PUTTING UP, INSTEAD OF JUST ONE PARTY OR
00:48:55THE OTHER. THESE FOLKS REPRESENT ALL OF US,
00:48:57SO WHY CAN'T ALL OF US ABOUT? THAT IS ABOUT ALL I GOT TO SAY
00:49:01ABOUT IT. HOST: IN JUST A FEW MINUTES
00:49:04AFTER THE BREAK, WE WILL BE
00:49:07TALKING ABOUT INDEPENDENT VOTERS .
00:49:10MICHAEL FROM ALBANY, NEW YORK, DEMOCRAT. THE QUESTION IS, WHICH PARTY DO
00:49:14YOU WANT TO SEE CONTROL CONGRESS?
00:49:17CALLER: DEMOCRATS. HOST: WHY DO YOU SAY THAT?
00:49:22CALLER: I SAY DEMOCRATS. FOR ONE, ANY TIME WE HAVE A
00:49:25PRESIDENT IN OFFICE THAT IS
00:49:27TRYING TO BUY YOUR VOTES, THAT SAYS A LOT ABOUT THE PRESIDENT.
00:49:33PEOPLE ARE GETTING THEIR HEALTH
00:49:34CARE CUT, GAS PRICES GOING UP.
00:49:38AND IF PEOPLE DON'T SEE WHAT IS
00:49:42REALLY GOING ON, WITH THE
00:49:47PRESIDENT AND HIS HENCHMEN IN OFFICE, JUST TEARING UP THE
00:49:51ECONOMY. IT IS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY. ALL ABOUT THE MONEY.
00:49:54GET RICH.
00:49:57MIDDLE-CLASS, POOR PEOPLE JUST GETTING POOR. DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
00:50:04HAVE A GOOD DAY. HOST: ALL RIGHT.
00:50:09ANOTHER STATE THAT WE ARE
00:50:11WATCHING HEAD OF THE NOVEMBER
00:50:14MIDTERM ELECTIONS IS KANSAS. I AM LOOKING AT A NEW YORK TIMES
00:50:18ARTICLE THAT SAYS THE MIDTERM
00:50:20SENATE FIGHT SPREADS TO A SURPRISING NEW BATTLEGROUND.
00:50:24BEAR WITH ME WHILE I SCROLL.
00:50:27IT SAYS THAT KANSAS HAS NOT ELECTED A DEMOCRAT TO THE SENATE
00:50:30SINCE 19 32. THE REPUBLICAN NOMINATION --
00:50:34DOMINATION OF THE STATES TWO SENATE SEATS, LASTING NEARLY A
00:50:37CENTURY, IS ONE OF THE LONGEST PARTISAN WINNING STREAK SINCE IN THE HISTORY.
00:50:42SUDDENLY, A MEGA-CHURCH PASTOR WHO BECAME A DEMOCRAT THIS
00:50:44SPRING APPEARS TO HAVE A SHOT. ERASE THAT ONCE BARELY
00:50:47REGISTERED NATIONALLY HAS EMERGED AS ONE OF THE MOST
00:50:50UNEXPECTED BATTLEGROUNDS ON A MIDTERM MAP THAT HAS RAPIDLY
00:50:54EXPANDED INTO LONG-TERM REPUBLICAN STRONGHOLDS.
00:50:56ADAM HAMILTON IS A SERIOUS AND
00:50:58IT CONTINGENT IN KANSAS, AND IT
00:51:01APPEARS TO HAVE CAUGHT THE INCUMBENT REPUBLICAN, SENATOR
00:51:04ROGER MARSHALL, BY SURPRISE.
00:51:13ADAM HAMILTON, THAT DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE, WAS ON ABC ON SUNDAY.
00:51:17TAKE A LISTEN TO HOW HE DESCRIBED HIS POLITICAL POSITION. [VIDEO CLIP]
00:51:22>> THIS IS A CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN STATE.
00:51:24I HAVE HEARD YOU SAY I AM A LIBERAL AND I AM A CONSERVATIVE.
00:51:28WHAT DO YOU MEAN? >> TO BE LIBERAL MEANS GENEROUS OF SPIRIT.
00:51:33EVERYBODY SHOULD BE THAT. CONSERVATIVE MEANS YOU HOLD ONTO
00:51:36THINGS THAT ARE TREASURES, CONCERN VALUES.
00:51:39EVERYBODY SHOULD DO THAT.
00:51:43ALL OF US ARE MORE LIBERAL COMPARED TO SOMEBODY AND MORE CONSERVATIVE COMPARED TO SOMEBODY ELSE.
00:51:47IT MEANS A WILLINGNESS TO LISTEN AND UNDERSTAND AND UPHOLD BOTH OF THESE VALUES.
00:51:51I HAVE BEEN A REPUBLICAN AND A DEMOCRAT. I VALUE THINGS FOR BOTH PARTIES.
00:51:55IT IS THAT YOU TRY TO SAY, OK, LET'S BRING THE BEST OF THE TWO
00:52:00PARTIES TOGETHER TO SOLVE PROBLEMS.
00:52:05I BECAME A DEMOCRAT DURING THE
00:52:06OBAMA ADMINISTRATION WHEN HE WAS RUNNING.
00:52:10FOR EIGHT YEARS, I WAS A DEMOCRAT.
00:52:12HE ASKED ME TO PREACH HIS SECOND
00:52:15INAUGURATION, THE PRAYER SERVICE FOLLOWING THAT.
00:52:18THEN I WENT BACK TO BEING A REPUBLICAN. YOU ARE IN KANSAS.
00:52:21IF YOU VOTE IN A PRIMARY, MOST
00:52:23OF THE TIME YOU VOTE FOR REPUBLICANS.
00:52:26I WOULD USUALLY TRY TO FIND MODERATES, PEOPLE WHO CARE AND REPRESENT MY VALUES.
00:52:30THEN I GOT IN THE VOTING BOOTH AND I ALWAYS SAID I WANT TO TRY
00:52:33TO FIND PEOPLE IN BOTH PARTIES I CAN VOTE FOR.
00:52:37I AM LOOKING FOR COMPETENCY AND CHARACTER AND VALUES. SO I HAVE VOTED FOR PEOPLE ON
00:52:41BOTH SIDES. I AM PROUD TO BE A DEMOCRAT. BUT WHAT MATTERS TO BE MORE THAN
00:52:44THE LETTER BEHIND YOUR NAME IS WHO YOU ARE AND WHAT YOU STAND
00:52:49FOR AND YOUR CHARACTER.
00:52:56I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE THAT IN OUR STATE. HOST: THAT IS DEMOCRATIC SENATORIAL CANDIDATE FROM KANSAS, ADAM HAMILTON, IN A
00:53:01SURPRISINGLY COMPETITIVE RACE THERE IN THAT REPUBLICAN STRONGHOLD.
00:53:06SHAE FROM ANDERSON, NORTH
00:53:10CAROLINA, REPUBLICAN. WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT YOUR
00:53:12STATE SENATE RACE EARLIER IN THE PROGRAM.
00:53:14WHICH PARTY DO YOU WANT TO CONTROL CONGRESS?
00:53:17CALLER: WELL, AT THIS POINT, IT
00:53:22REALLY DOESN'T MATTER TO ME, HONESTLY.
00:53:25I AM A REPUBLICAN.
00:53:27WHAT I WISHED IS THAT A
00:53:32PRESIDENT WOULD GET INTO OFFICE,
00:53:35REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT, AND THE
00:53:38PEOPLE IN WASHINGTON GET BACK TO
00:53:40OUR BUSINESS, DEVISING --
00:53:48INSTEAD OF DEVISING WAYS OF ATTACKING EACH OTHER WHICH IS
00:53:51CAUSING SO MUCH HATE AND PROBLEMS IN OUR COUNTRY.
00:53:55ONE ISSUE I AM HAVING AS A
00:53:58SENIOR, AND MANY PEOPLE ARE, IS TELEMARKETERS.
00:54:02I WISH SOME OF THESE SENATORS
00:54:08COULD CLEAN THIS OUT. MY PHONE STARTS AT 8:00 A.M.,
00:54:12AND UNTIL 8:00 AND 9:00 AT
00:54:15NIGHT, THESE FOREIGN
00:54:19TELEMARKETERS CALL ME. I CANNOT EVEN ANSWER MY PHONE ANYMORE.
00:54:24I HAVE TO LEAVE A VOICEMAIL.
00:54:26YOU BLOCK THEM, HUNDREDS COME BACK IN, HUNDREDS OF CALLS.
00:54:31HOST: THAT IS ONE THING YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT.
00:54:34DID YOU WATCH THE DEBATE LAST NIGHT? DID YOU HAPPEN TO WATCH THE
00:54:38DEBATE LAST NIGHT BETWEEN
00:54:42CURRENT SENATOR GRAHAM AND HER RIVAL DR. ANNIE ANDREWS?
00:54:47CALLER: RIGHT, I DID.
00:54:49HOST: WHAT DID YOU MAKE ABOUT IT?
00:54:52CALLER: I DO LIKE THE
00:54:53LIBERTARIAN CANDIDATE, I LIKE
00:54:57HER A LOT AND PROBABLY WOULD VOTE FOR HER.
00:55:01GRAHAM IS JUST LIKE HER BROTHER.
00:55:05HE WAS NOT LIKED IN SOUTH CAROLINA BECAUSE HE WOULD COME
00:55:08HERE ONCE A YEAR, RAISE BIG MONEY, AND GET BACK TO
00:55:13WASHINGTON AND DEVISE WAYS TO
00:55:16FIGHT AGAINST THE OTHER PARTY.
00:55:20NO, I DO NOT LIKE HER AT ALL.
00:55:24NOR THE DEMOCRATIC PHYSICIAN.
00:55:26HOST: THAT IS WHAT I WAS GOING
00:55:30TO ASK YOU.
00:55:32CALLER: NOBODY IN -- NOBODY HERE
00:55:37OTHER THAN REACH PEOPLE SUPPORT LINDSEY GRAHAM.
00:55:40WHEN HE CAME HERE, HE WAS BOOED.
00:55:46ANYWAY, I WISH THE PRESIDENT WOULD GET INTO OFFICE THAT SHE
00:55:49TOOK CARE OF BUSINESS AND ASK
00:55:53THE CITIZENS, YOU KNOW, LIVE THEIR LIVES, WORKED OR DROPS --
00:55:57HOST: A QUICK QUESTION, ARE YOU
00:56:00HAPPY WITH THE TOP PRESIDENT TRUMP IS DOING?
00:56:03CALLER: I AM VERY HAPPY WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP.
00:56:09I AM CERTAINLY NOT A VERY SMART
00:56:12PERSON AS FAR AS RUNNING A
00:56:15COUNTRY.
00:56:16AND I THINK HE HAS DONE A LOT OF
00:56:20GOOD THINGS FOR OUR COUNTRY.
00:56:22YOU KNOW, ONE CALLER WAS MAD
00:56:25THAT HE GAVE ALL THE MONEY TO
00:56:27THE FARMERS. WELL, SO BE IT.
00:56:32BECAUSE OUR MEAT IS BEING
00:56:34SOURCED NOW FROM OTHER COUNTRIES .
00:56:37BELIEVE ME, IT IS NOT BEING REGULATED.
00:56:40OUR CROPS WILL NOT BE REGULATED,
00:56:43OUR VEGETABLES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
00:56:45SO GET READY FOR MORE POISON AND
00:56:49TOXINS IN YOUR FOOD THAT IS
00:56:51COMING FROM OTHER COUNTRIES, ESPECIALLY SEAFOOD.
00:56:54HOST: WE HAVE GOT TO TAKE A BREAK. I APPRECIATE YOUR CALL.
00:57:01LATER ON "WASHINGTON JOURNAL," WITH LESS THAN A MONTH TO GO
00:57:04BEFORE THE MIDTERM ELECTIONS, NATIONAL JOURNAL'S KIRK BADO
00:57:08WILL BE HERE TO BREAK DOWN THE STATE OF THE RACES IN MUST WATCH
00:57:12CONTESTS. FIRST, PRESIDENT OF VOTER
00:57:16ADVOCACY NONPROFIT OPEN PRIMARIES JOHN OPDYCKE DISCUSSES HOW INDEPENDENT VOTERS WILL
00:57:20IMPACT THE 2020 SIX MIDTERM ELECTIONS.
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00:59:21CONTINUES. HOST: JOINING US TO TALK ABOUT THE ROLE OF INDEPENDENT VOTERS
00:59:24IN MIDTERM ELECTION 2026 IS JOHN
00:59:28OPDYCKE, FOUNDER AND PRESIDENT OF OPEN PRIMARIES.
00:59:31THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US. GUEST: GREAT
00:59:34FIRST, TELL HER AUDIENCE ABOUT YOUR ORGANIZATION, OPEN PRIMARIES.
00:59:39WHAT ARE THE GOAL AND MISSION AND WHO FUNDS YOU?
00:59:43GUEST: IT IS A NATIONAL
00:59:48EDUCATION AND ADVOCACY ORGANIZATION. I FOUNDED IT IN 2009.
00:59:50OUR GOAL IS TO CHALLENGE THE WAY
00:59:54PARTIES CONTROL ROUND ONE OF THE
00:59:58ELECTORAL SYSTEM. WE THINK EVERY AMERICAN, EVERY
01:00:01CITIZEN SHOULD BE ABLE TO VOTE IN EVERY PUBLICLY FUNDED ELECTION BUT THAT IS NOT THE
01:00:05CASE AND IN MANY STATES IF
01:00:09YOU'RE AN INDEPENDENT VOTER YOU ARE BARRED FROM PARTICIPATING
01:00:12AND SO WE ARE WORKING TO CHANGE THAT THROUGH LITIGATION,
01:00:16LEGISLATION, AND TO PUBLICLY
01:00:22CREATE A NATIONAL DISCUSSION ABOUT THE FACT THAT MOST
01:00:25DECISIONS ARE MADE IN THE PRIMARIES, NOT THE GENERAL ELECTION.
01:00:30GENERAL ELECTIONS HAVE BECOME UNCOMPETITIVE. IT IS A NATIONAL EMBARRASSMENT.
01:00:33HOST: TALK TO US ABOUT HOW YOU
01:00:35GOT TO THIS WORK AND YOUR OWN BACKGROUND.
01:00:40>> I COME OUT OF THE THIRD-PARTY MOVEMENT.
01:00:44I GOT INVOLVED IN DEMOCRACY WORK
01:00:47AND CREATING ALTERNATIVE POLITICAL PARTIES IN THE LATE
01:00:511980'S AND EARLY 1990'S.
01:00:54I HELPED GET INDEPENDENT ELECTED IN NEW YORK CITY AND WE HAD
01:00:58PHENOMENAL EXPERIMENTS AND TREMENDOUS FAILURES.
01:01:04AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT --
01:01:06WHEN PERRAULT GOT 20 MILLION
01:01:09VOTES IN 1992, IT SHOOK THINGS UP. GOOD AND BAD.
01:01:13AND CREATED AN ENVIRONMENT IN
01:01:17WHICH THE DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS DO NOT WANT MORE COMPETITION SO THEY DO
01:01:20EVERYTHING IN THEIR POWER TO
01:01:21MAKE IT DIFFICULT FOR NEW
01:01:26POLITICAL CONVERSATIONS OR ORGANIZATIONS BUT THE NUMBER OF
01:01:28INDEPENDENT VOTERS GOES UP EVERY YEAR.
01:01:33MY TEAM CALCULATED EVERY WEEK
01:01:3710,000 AMERICANS SHIPPED THEIR REGISTRATION FROM DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN INDEPENDENT AND THAT
01:01:42HAS A LOT TO DO WITH BOTH
01:01:43PARTIES' INABILITY TO WORK WITH
01:01:48ONE ANOTHER, INABILITY TO SOLVE PROBLEMS AND THE DIVISIVE ROLE
01:01:51THEY PLAY IN AMERICAN POLITICAL LIFE.
01:01:53HOST: GALLUP RELEASED A POLL
01:01:57THIS YEAR THAT FOUND A RECORD
01:01:59HIGH OF 45% OF U.S. ADULTS
01:02:03IDENTIFIED AS POLITICAL INDEPENDENCE IN 2025.
01:02:07YOU TALKED ABOUT WHY YOU THINK THAT NUMBER IS RISING BUT TAKE IT FURTHER.
01:02:12YOU SAY 10,000 PEOPLE A WEEK. WHY ARE PEOPLE SO DISSATISFIED
01:02:17WITH THE TWO PARTY SYSTEM?
01:02:23GUEST: THERE IS A MISCONCEPTION THAT THE RISE OF INDEPENDENCE HAS TO DO WITH PEOPLE BIG
01:02:26MODERATES WERE IN THE MIDDLE OR BETWEEN THE PARTIES AND I THINK
01:02:30THAT DOES NOT CAPTURE WHAT IS GOING ON. I THINK IT HAS MORE TO DO WITH
01:02:34TRUST. I THINK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE
01:02:37BEGINNING TO SEE THAT THE
01:02:41POLITICAL PARTIES ARE MUCH MORE
01:02:44INTERESTED IN THEIR OWN AGENDAS,
01:02:48THEIR OWN INTEREST GROUPS, THEIR
01:02:50OWN SPECIAL INTERESTS THAN THEY
01:02:55ARE IN ADVANCING THE HOPES AND DREAMS OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
01:03:00AND WE LIVE IN COMPLICATED, DIFFICULT TIMES.
01:03:03ISSUES HAVE BEEN FESTERING IN AMERICA FOR A LONG TIME THAT
01:03:06DON'T EVER SEEM TO BE SOLVED.
01:03:08THE RICHEST, MOST POWERFUL
01:03:12COUNTRY IN THE WORLD AND YET IT SOMETIMES SEEMS LIKE WE CAN
01:03:16ORGANIZE OURSELVES OUT OF A PAPER BAG. SO I THINK THE RISE OF
01:03:19INDEPENDENTS, INDEPENDENTS ARE
01:03:24IDEOLOGICALLY ALL OVER THE MAP.
01:03:27SOME ARE LIBERTARIAN, SOME ARE MODERATE. IT IS A WIDE KALEIDOSCOPE OF
01:03:31PEOPLE BUT THEY ARE UNHAPPY WITH
01:03:36-- YOU LOOK AT WASHINGTON AND PEOPLE CANNOT WORK TOGETHER.
01:03:40PEOPLE CANNOT SOLVE PROBLEMS. PEOPLE CANNOT INNOVATE AND THEY
01:03:41SEE PARTIES AS PART OF THE PROBLEM SO THAT IS ONE OF THE
01:03:45DRIVING FORCES.
01:03:48HOST: 31 STATES ALLOW VOTERS TO
01:03:54STATE PARTY AFFILIATION. HERE IS A BREAKDOWN OF PARTY AFFILIATION.
01:04:01INDEPENDENCE, 40 5%. DEMOCRATS, 30%.
01:04:05REPUBLICANS, 25%. WE KNOW IN EARLY TERMS
01:04:09REPUBLICANS HAD THE ADVANTAGE WHEN IT COMES TO REGISTERING VOTERS.
01:04:13IT SEEMS TO HAVE CHANGED TO DEMOCRATS IN LATER MONTHS. WHAT ARE YOU HEARING FROM YOUR
01:04:18ORGANIZATION NETWORK OF VOTERS
01:04:22AND STATES THAT DO NOT ALLOW
01:04:25FOLKS TO VOTE IN THE PRIMARY
01:04:29UNLESS THEY ARE REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT?
01:04:32>> WHEN I FOUND IT OPEN
01:04:37PRIMARIES 16 YEARS AGO THE ISSUE
01:04:37WAS SO FRESH -- FRIENDSHIP.
01:04:41I JOKED IT WAS LIKE FOUNDING A UFO RESEARCH ORGANIZATION.
01:04:46NOBODY TOOK IT SERIOUSLY.
01:04:46BUT RIGHT NOW YOU TALKED
01:04:50INDEPENDENT VOTERS AND THEY WILL TELL YOU IN STATES THAT DON'T
01:04:53ALLOW THEM TO VOTE, THAT THAT IS
01:04:55A SIGNIFICANT MUTING OF THEIR
01:04:59VOICE, A SIGNIFICANT EXCLUSION BECAUSE MOST ELECTIONS ARE
01:05:03DECIDED IN THE PRIMARY. 95% OF RACES AT THE STATE
01:05:06LEGISLATIVE LEVEL ACROSS THE
01:05:09COUNTRY ARE DONE AFTER THE PRIMARY.
01:05:13IF YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO VOTE IN THE PRIMARY, YOU REALLY HAVE NO SAY IN WHO REPRESENTS YOU.
01:05:20THE BEST ESTIMATES ARE THAT 15%
01:05:23OF CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS WILL
01:05:26BE COMPETITIVE IN NOVEMBER. THAT SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT THE
01:05:29KIND OF GERRYMANDERING THAT HAS
01:05:32BEEN DONE, THE WAYS IN WHICH THE PARTIES DO NOT COMPETE AGAINST
01:05:34EACH OTHER IN SO MANY AREAS OF THE COUNTRY.
01:05:38SO INDEPENDENTS -- MANY
01:05:43AMERICANS ARE TUNED TO THIS.
01:05:45INDEPENDENTS ARE PARTICULARLY SENSITIVE TO THE FACT THEY HAVE LITTLE CHOICE.
01:05:53IN MANY STATES, THEY ARE
01:05:53REQUIRED TO JOIN A PRIVATE
01:05:58ORGANIZATION TO VOTE IN A PUBLICLY FUNDED ELECTION.
01:06:04THAT RUBS PEOPLE THE WRONG WAY AND WHAT WE ARE SEEING IS IN
01:06:07EVERY STATE WE INTRODUCED A BILL AND HAVE A REFERENDUM ON THE
01:06:12BALLOT, WE HAVE A LOSS GOING
01:06:14FORWARD, INDEPENDENTS ARE
01:06:16RAISING THEIR HANDS AND SAYING I WANT TO BE PART OF CHANGING HOW
01:06:20WE DO POLITICS IN THIS COUNTRY.
01:06:21HOST: BEFORE WE CONTINUE, I WANT
01:06:25TO INVITE OUR VIEWERS TO JOIN THIS CONVERSATION.
01:06:27I HAVE HEARD FROM A LOT OF YOU
01:06:31ABOUT INDEPENDENT VOTING AND THE
01:06:35PRIMARY SYSTEM. REPUBLICANS, YOUR LINE, (202)
01:06:39748-8001. DEMOCRATS, YOUR LINE, (202)
01:06:43748-8000. INDEPENDENTS, (202) 748-8002.
01:06:50START: IN NOW SO YOU CAN ASK JOHN ALL THE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE
01:06:52PARTY SYSTEM AND PERHAPS EVEN
01:06:55THE LACK OF ABILITY FOR AN EVENT
01:06:57OF VOTERS TO PARTICIPATE IN THE
01:07:02ELECTIONS BEFORE WE GET TO THE GENERAL. I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT CHANGE
01:07:04AND HOW YOUR ORGANIZATION IS
01:07:07INTRODUCING LEGISLATION BUT
01:07:10UNTIL YOU GET THERE, HOW CAN
01:07:12MAJOR PARTIES APPEAL TO END UP
01:07:17VOTERS?
01:07:18GUEST: THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION.
01:07:22I LOVE THAT C-SPAN HAS A SEPARATE LINE FOR INDEPENDENTS
01:07:25BECAUSE MANY OF THE NETWORKS
01:07:28ACTUALLY DON'T BELIEVE THAT
01:07:30INDEPENDENTS EXIST.
01:07:34THEY RELATE TO THEM AS DEMOCRAT LEANERS AND REPUBLICAN LEANERS,
01:07:37WHICH DOES NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT PEOPLE ARE DISSATISFIED
01:07:41WITH THE ARRANGEMENT. GOING BACK TO YOUR QUESTION, I
01:07:44THINK THE PARTIES ARE CONFLICTED.
01:07:49ABOUT RELATING TO INDEPENDENTS
01:07:53IN A SERIOUS WAY. THEY WANT OUR VOTES.
01:07:55EVERYONE KNOWS THAT THESE
01:07:57MIDTERM ELECTIONS WILL BE DECIDED BY INDEPENDENT VOTERS.
01:08:03THAT GETS INDEPENDENCE A LOT OF CLOUT AND AUTHORITY, BUT AT THE
01:08:05SAME TIME THE PARTIES -- IT IS
01:08:08ALMOST LIKE THEY TAKE OUR VOTES AND THE DAY AFTER THE ELECTION
01:08:12WE DON'T GET A THANK YOU CALL.
01:08:15WE DON'T GET AN INVITATION TO BE PART OF A NEW COALITION.
01:08:19THEY TAKE OUR VOTES AND GO BACK TO GOVERNING IN A PARTISAN WAY.
01:08:23AND THAT IS WHY YOU SEE, IF YOU
01:08:26LOOK AT VOTING PATTERNS OVER THE
01:08:27LAST 30 YEARS, ARIZONA STATE
01:08:31UNIVERSITY HAS DONE SOME BRILLIANT ANALYSIS.
01:08:35INDEPENDENTS ARE SWINGING
01:08:39WILDLY, GOING FOR OBAMA, TRUMP,
01:08:41BIDEN, TRUMP, THE DEMOCRATS, THE REPUBLICANS, BACK AND FORTH
01:08:45BECAUSE OUR SYSTEM DOES NOT GIVE
01:08:47PEOPLE A HUGE AMOUNT OF CHOICE.
01:08:50SO SWINGING IS WHEN INDEPENDENTS
01:08:55HAVE BECOME GOOD AT BUT THE PARTIES -- THERE ARE LEADERS IN BOTH PARTIES.
01:09:00I THINK OF SOMEONE LIKE ROB SAND RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR IN IOWA.
01:09:03HE IS SOMEONE WHO HAS A CULTURAL
01:09:06AFFINITY -- HE UNDERSTANDS THAT
01:09:10THE MAJORITY OF ISLANDS DO NOT WANT TO JOIN THE DEMOCRATIC
01:09:13PARTY AND YET HE IS RUNNING AS A
01:09:16DEMOCRAT TO REPRESENT IOWA,
01:09:18INCLUDING INDEPENDENTS, AND HE
01:09:21CARES ABOUT WHAT THEY THINK AND UNDERSTANDS THAT MANY OF THE
01:09:25LAWS AND CUSTOMS OF POLITICS
01:09:28EXCLUDE INDEPENDENTS AND HE
01:09:32WANTS TO CHANGE THAT.
01:09:33BY AND LARGE THE PARTIES WANT
01:09:36THE VOTES OF INDEPENDENCE AND THEN TO IGNORE US AFTER THE
01:09:40ELECTION AND THERE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE WORKING ON CHANGING THAT.
01:09:46HOST: IN A POLL LAST NIGHT, IT
01:09:51FOUND 50% OF INDEPENDENT LIKELY
01:09:52VOTERS SAY THEY WOULD VOTE FOR A
01:09:56DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE FOR CONGRESS WILL 27% FAVORED A
01:10:00REPUBLICAN. IS THAT A TREND OR OUTLIER?
01:10:04GUEST: IT IS A TREND IN THAT
01:10:09INDEPENDENTS DON'T LIKE THE GOVERNMENT RIGHT NOW. THEY DON'T LIKE THE TRUMP
01:10:13ADMINISTRATION. THEY DON'T LIKE A LOT OF THE POLICIES AND CRUELTY AND
01:10:19DIVISIVENESS THAT HAS BECOME
01:10:20NORMALIZED BUT HOW DO YOU
01:10:24EXPRESS THAT? WE LIVE IN A SYSTEM IN WHICH THE
01:10:27OPPORTUNITIES TO GIVE EXPRESSION
01:10:28ARE LIMITED SO PEOPLE SAY, WE
01:10:31ARE GOING TO VOTE DEMOCRAT THIS TERM, BUT HERE'S THE PROBLEM
01:10:35HERE IN THE DEMOCRATS ARE GOING TO WAKE UP AND SAY THE COUNTRY IS GOING BLUE. WE HAD A BLUE WAVE.
01:10:40NOW EVERYONE IS WITH US. THEY WILL MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE
01:10:44THAT TRUMP AND THE REPUBLICANS MADE, WHICH IS THINKING THAT
01:10:47THESE INDEPENDENCE --
01:10:51INDEPENDENTS ARE WITH YOUR PARTY WHEN THEY VOTE FOR YOU.
01:10:55THEY WANT YOU TO CHANGE THE COUNTRY. THEY ARE LOOKING TO OPEN
01:10:58CONVERSATION AND INNOVATION AND
01:11:01DEALMAKING TO GET TO SOLVE THE PROBLEMS WE FACE.
01:11:06I THINK THE DEMOCRATS WILL
01:11:08LIKELY MAKE THE SAME MISTAKES THAT DONALD TRUMP AND THE REPUBLICANS HAVE.
01:11:14BUT THE TREND IS THAT
01:11:16INDEPENDENTS ARE LOOKING FOR
01:11:20WAYS TO IMPACT AND ONE OF THE
01:11:23NEW DEVELOPMENT THIS YEAR IS
01:11:26THAT THERE ARE INDEPENDENT CANDIDATES RUNNING.
01:11:29AND I REMEMBER BACK IN THE 1990'S INDEPENDENT CANDIDATES
01:11:32TENDED TO BE FRINGE.
01:11:36THEY WERE RUNNING TO MAKE A POINT. OR BRING AN ISSUE TO THE TABLE.
01:11:43NOW, PEOPLE LIKE SETH BODNAR AND
01:11:46DAN OSBORNE, THESE ARE
01:11:50WELL-FUNDED, SERIOUS INDEPENDENTS RUNNING NOT TO GET
01:11:53TO WASHINGTON AND THEN JOIN TEAM
01:11:56READ OR TEAM BLUE BUT TO CREATE
01:11:59AN INDEPENDENT NEXUS, A CAUCUS,
01:12:02A PLACE WHERE EVERY ISSUE DOES
01:12:07NOT HAVE TO BE TURNED INTO A POLITICAL FOOTBALL.
01:12:11THAT PITS RED AGAINST BLUE.
01:12:14AND IT IS A TOUGH BATTLE. BEING AN INDEPENDENT CANDIDATE
01:12:18IS NO EASY FEAT.
01:12:18REQUIRES A LOT BUT THERE IS
01:12:23SERIOUS EFFORT UNDERWAY TO BUST UP THE BIPARTISAN CONTROL
01:12:28CONGRESS AND I HOPE THIS IS THE YEAR WE CAN BREAK THROUGH.
01:12:35HOST: GIVEN THE POWER OF THE INVENTIVE OWNER AND THE GROWING
01:12:39NUMBER OF INDEPENDENT VOTERS, DO YOU THINK THAT THESE ELECTION
01:12:41FOR THE HOUSE -- IS THIS IN THE
01:12:47HANDS OF THE INDEPENDENT PARTY?
01:12:50GUEST: ABSOLUTELY.
01:12:53NUMBERS DO NOT LIVE. OPEN A PAPER THERE WILL BE AN
01:12:56ARTICLE ABOUT INDEPENDENT VOTERS
01:12:58, ABOUT LATINO VOTERS COME ABOUT
01:13:00YOUNG VOTERS, WHICH IS IN MANY
01:13:04CASES AN OVERLAPPING PHENOMENON. THE LARGEST AND FASTEST-GROWING
01:13:07AND MOST DYNAMIC SEGMENT OF THE
01:13:10ELECTORATE, YOUNG PEOPLE,
01:13:12LATINOS, INDEPENDENTS, ARE SURGING.
01:13:16THEIR GROWTH IS EXPONENTIAL AND WE HAVE THE NUMBERS BUT WE DO
01:13:19NOT HAVE THE NARRATIVE. EVEN THE LANGUAGE WE USE -- THINK ABOUT THIS.
01:13:24WE TALK ABOUT WHICH PARTY IS
01:13:26GOING TO CONTROL CONGRESS.
01:13:31THAT IS NOT IN THE CONSTITUTION.
01:13:33THAT IS NOT THE WAY DEMOCRACY IS SUPPOSED TO WORK.
01:13:36THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA ARE SUPPOSED TO ELECT REPRESENTATIVES TO WASHINGTON TO
01:13:39REPRESENT US AND I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS
01:13:43DRIVING THE RISE OF INDEPENDENTS
01:13:46, THAT PEOPLE DO NOT FEEL LIKE THEIR REPRESENTATIVES ARE
01:13:49REPRESENTING THEM COMMIT THEIR
01:13:53COMMUNITIES, THEIR FAMILIES, THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. IF FEEL LIKE THEY ARE
01:13:56REPRESENTING VARIOUS INTERESTS
01:14:00THAT ARE DRIVING VARIOUS THINGS
01:14:02THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND AND WERE
01:14:04NOT ASKED ABOUT SO INDEPENDENTS
01:14:08ARE GOING TO DECIDE THE ELECTION. NO QUESTION.
01:14:11THE QUESTION IS WHAT ARE WE GOING TO GET OUT OF IT?
01:14:15HOST: LET'S TURN TO PHONE CALLS.
01:14:21RILEY FROM ROCHESTER, MINNESOTA, AN INDEPENDENT CALLER, GOOD MORNING.
01:14:26CALLER: HELLO. OK.
01:14:31MY QUESTION IS -- I HAVE ALWAYS
01:14:35LIVED IN OPEN PRIMARY STATES EXCEPT KANSAS AND WHEN I LIVED
01:14:38IN KANSAS I WAS REGISTERED FOR
01:14:42THE REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY BEFORE THE PRIMARY SO I COULD VOTE.
01:14:46WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT, DECIDING WHICH PRIMARY AND
01:14:52REGISTERING AND THEN THE NEXT
01:14:53ELECTION I WOULD SIGN UP WITH
01:14:59EITHER REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT.
01:14:59CAN YOU TELL ME -- THAT IS ONE
01:15:03STEP TOWARD GETTING AN OPEN PRIMARY. CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK OF THAT?
01:15:08GUEST: IT IS ENTERPRISING.
01:15:12IT IS CREATIVE. I SPEAK TO PEOPLE EVERY WE COULD
01:15:15DO THAT IN FLORIDA AND NEW YORK. ONE OF THE CHALLENGES MANY
01:15:19STATES -- THEY REQUIRE THAT YOU
01:15:22REREGISTER AND JOIN A PARTY
01:15:25MONTHS BEFORE THE ELECTION, OFTEN BEFORE CANDIDATES HAVE EVEN ANNOUNCED.
01:15:30I THINK ALSO GROWING NUMBERS OF
01:15:33PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY INDEPENDENT
01:15:36BUT NOT LIMITED TO INDEPENDENTS,
01:15:39WANT TO VOTE FOR THE BEST CANDIDATE IN THE PRIMARY.
01:15:44THEY WANT TO BUT FOR A DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN OR INDEPENDENT OR THIRD-PARTY IN PART OF THE
01:15:47PARTISAN BALLOT SYSTEM REQUIRES
01:15:50THAT YOU ONLY CHOOSE AMONG
01:15:53DEMOCRATS AND ONLY CHOOSE AMONG THE REPUBLICANS AND I THINK THAT
01:15:56IS -- THAT WORKED 50 YEARS AGO WHEN MOST AMERICANS WERE
01:16:00COMFORTABLE IN A POLITICAL PARTY BUT I THINK IT IS OUT OF STEP
01:16:04WITH WHERE PEOPLE ARE BUT CERTAINLY WHAT YOU ARE
01:16:05DESCRIBING IS WAYS IN WHICH WE
01:16:09HAVE HAD TO FIND WORKAROUNDS AND THAT REQUIRES REREGISTERING AND
01:16:13DOING THIS AND DOING THAT JUST TO BE ABLE TO VOTE IN AN
01:16:17ELECTION THAT OUR TAX DOLLARS PAY FOR AND I DO NOT THINK THAT IS RIGHT.
01:16:21HOST: ANGELA FROM OHIO, GOOD
01:16:26MORNING. YOU ARE ON.
01:16:29CALLER: OK.
01:16:33I WAS GOING TO SCHOOL. I WAS A SINGLE MOTHER.
01:16:37I STARTED DANCING IN 2004 IN ILLINOIS AND I WAS BECOMING
01:16:40SUCCESSFUL AT REAL ESTATE AND I
01:16:46NEEDED -- THIS MAN WHO OWNED A
01:16:47TRUCKING COMPANY, HE WAS A
01:16:51REPUBLICAN, BUT THE PEOPLE IN
01:16:53THE CLUB AND I WAS ALWAYS INDEPENDENT.
01:16:58I DO NOT KNOW WHICH SIDE. I WAS 34.
01:17:01BUT I FEEL LIKE THE WHOLE THING
01:17:04-- THEY PUT ON A SHOW LIKE THEY
01:17:07ARE PLAYING THAT SONG, LIVING
01:17:13CALLER. I'M TRYING TO THINK OF A NAME.
01:17:17BUT IT IS JUST CRAZY.
01:17:21THEY ARE TRYING TO PROVE A POINT.
01:17:28THAT IT IS NOT WHAT YOUR COUNTRY CAN DO FOR YOU.
01:17:31I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE EVER HEARD THAT SONG.
01:17:33GUEST: I REMEMBER THE JOHN
01:17:37KENNEDY QUOTE. I DON'T THINK I KNOW THE SONG.
01:17:40CALLER: I NEVER VOTED BUT I WAS
01:17:43ALWAYS TRYING TO -- OK? WHEN I GOT OLDER AND MORE
01:17:48MATURE, I WILL TRY TO BE
01:17:49CONSERVATIVE BUT IT IS LIKE I AM
01:17:52BEING STOCKED AND WHAT PARTY HAS
01:17:56THE POWER TO DO THIS TO ME?
01:17:58GUEST: I MIGHT BE READING
01:18:02BETWEEN THE LINES BUT I THINK SOMETHING YOU ARE EXPRESSING IS
01:18:06COMMON, WHICH IS I THINK OUR PARENTS AND GRANDPARENTS USED TO
01:18:10HAVE AN EXPERIENCE THAT POLITICAL PARTIES WERE
01:18:14CULTURALLY AND POLITICALLY PART OF THE COMMUNITY.
01:18:18THERE WERE NOT SOME FOREIGN ENTITY THAT WAS MAYBE LEADING US.
01:18:22THEY WERE PART OF HOW AMERICANS GIVE EXPRESSION TO OUR HOPES AND
01:18:26DREAMS AND CONCERNS AND ISSUES.
01:18:30MORE AND MORE AMERICANS HAVE THE
01:18:32EXPERIENCE THAT THE PARTIES ARE NOT LOOKING OUT FOR US. THEY ARE LOOKING OUT FOR
01:18:37THEMSELVES, FOR WEALTHY DONORS,
01:18:40FOR SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS, FOR ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT
01:18:43US AND I THINK THAT IS CONFUSING
01:18:46AND DISORIENTING AND UPSETTING
01:18:49SO I DON'T THINK YOU ARE -- I MIGHT BE READING BETWEEN THE
01:18:53LINES OF WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, BUT I THINK THAT EXPERIENCE OF
01:18:57CONFUSION IS VERY COMMON.
01:18:59HOST: BOB FROM NEW YORK.
01:19:04>> GOOD MORNING.
01:19:09UNLESS YOU'RE ARE GOING TO VOTE
01:19:11STRAIGHT PARTY, LIKE REPUBLICAN
01:19:14PARTY OR STRAIGHT DEMOCRAT PARTY
01:19:16AND YOU ARE NOT LOOKING OUT
01:19:19PEOPLE WHO ARE RUNNING BUT YOU DON'T PICK LIKE THAT --
01:19:25INDEPENDENTS PICK A LITTLE FROM HERE AND A LITTLE FROM THERE.
01:19:28BUT YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TO
01:19:32REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE. THAT IS MY POINT.
01:19:38SO I'M -- AS A DEMOCRAT, I HAVE
01:19:44TO LOOK AT WHO IS RUNNING AND IF
01:19:49I SEE SOMEBODY IN THE
01:19:54REPUBLICANS THAT I DO LIKE OR MAYBE A CERTAIN PARTY RUNNING
01:19:57FOR GOVERNOR I MIGHT LIKE, I MIGHT GO WITH THEM.
01:20:00IT IS NOT ENOUGH FOR ME TO
01:20:05REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE. THAT IS MY POINT.
01:20:10INDEPENDENTS RIGHT NOW ARE NOT
01:20:11STRONG ENOUGH AS A PARTY TO SAY
01:20:14IF YOU DON'T -- I DON'T CARE IF
01:20:17YOU GIVE ME THANKS. ALL I WANT YOU TO DO IS DO YOUR JOB.
01:20:22THAT IS WHAT I WANT YOU TO DO.
01:20:24RIGHT NOW, IN THE WHITE HOUSE,
01:20:31THEY HAD A CHANCE TO GET RID OF
01:20:34HEGSETH BUT THE REPUBLICANS WANT
01:20:39TO PUT THAT ON THE FLOOR COULD NOT PUT THAT ON THE FLOOR
01:20:41BECAUSE JOHNSON IS A BACKER OF
01:20:45DONALD TRUMP SO HE TOOK THE WHOLE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND LEFT.
01:20:47HOST: LET'S LET JOHN GET IN AND
01:20:51ANSWER SOME OF THIS.
01:20:55GUEST: BOB IS RIGHT.
01:20:59INDEPENDENTS DO NOT HAVE THE POWER. WE ARE NOT A PARTY.
01:21:02WE ARE A MOVEMENT. WE ARE NOT ORGANIZED. WE DO NOT HAVE THE LEVEL OF
01:21:05INFRASTRUCTURE WE NEED.
01:21:09BUT WE ARE GROWING AND FINDING OUR FOOTING.
01:21:12I THINK YOU ARE 100% RIGHT THAT
01:21:14THE THANKS WE NEED IS NOT THE
01:21:18TYPICAL POLITICAL THINGS WHERE YOU GET SOME PAYOFF FOR YOU GET ACCESS WERE YOUR PEOPLE.
01:21:22WE ARE NOT LOOKING FOR THAT AND
01:21:24I THINK THAT WOULD BE JUST IN
01:21:27SOME WAYS KEEPING THE PROBLEM GOING.
01:21:29WE ARE LOOKING FOR OUR REPRESENTATIVES TO REPRESENT US,
01:21:33TO DO THEIR JOBS. YOU ARE RIGHT.
01:21:36THAT IS WHAT IS MISSING IN SO MUCH OF AMERICAN POLITICS,
01:21:40PARTICULARLY AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL.
01:21:43THE SENSE THAT WE SEND PEOPLE TO WASHINGTON TO REPRESENT US AND DO THEIR JOBS BECAUSE THAT IS
01:21:47NOT WHAT THEY DO. SO I SHARE YOUR FRUSTRATION.
01:21:53HOST: SUSAN FROM FLORIDA,
01:21:57INDEPENDENT, GOOD MORNING.
01:22:02CALLER: WHAT CAN WE DO?
01:22:06DO WE HAVE ANY TYPE OF PLAN? I HAVE BEEN FORCED TO BE REGISTERED ONE PARTY OR ANOTHER
01:22:10AND I'M REALLY NOT.
01:22:13RIGHT NOW I AM REGISTERED AS A DEMOCRAT AND I HAVE BEEN GOING
01:22:16TO PROTEST FOR NO KINGS.
01:22:22THERE ARE FIGHTS WITHIN THE
01:22:23DEMOCRATS BECAUSE THEY ARE
01:22:29EITHER AT ONE EXTREME OR THE OTHER.
01:22:31IT IS SO SAD.
01:22:36I AM A CENTRIST.
01:22:40I'M LIKE YOU. I LOOK AT THE PERSON AND THEIR
01:22:44INTEGRITY.
01:22:45DO THEY HAVE IDEAS THEY CAN PUT FORWARD THAT WILL HELP?
01:22:50ME. I DON'T CARE ABOUT HELPING THE PARTY.
01:22:56I AM TIRED OF GETTING 15 TEXTS
01:22:58IN AN HOUR ASKING FOR FIVE
01:23:03DOLLARS, $10, ONE DOLLAR. I AM SICK OF IT.
01:23:07I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT HELPING MY PARTY.
01:23:11I WANT SOMEBODY TO HELP ME.
01:23:16I AM 70 YEARS OLD. SOMEBODY HELP ME.
01:23:19I AM TIRED OF PAYING FIVE
01:23:20DOLLARS FOR A GALLON OF GASOLINE
01:23:24OR $4.15 PER GALLON OF GASOLINE.
01:23:27OR THREE DOLLARS FOR EGGS.
01:23:32SOMEBODY HELP ME. I'M TIRED OF IT.
01:23:34HOST: LET'S LET JOHN GET IN AN
01:23:38ANSWER.
01:23:39GUEST: THERE IS NO MAGIC WAND.
01:23:44THERE IS NO LET ME GIVE YOU SOMETHING QUICK AND EASY THAT
01:23:47WILL SOLVE YOUR PROBLEMS. IT WILL NOT.
01:23:50WE ARE IN A PICKLE AS A COUNTRY.
01:23:52WE HAVE MORE AND MORE OF A
01:23:55GOVERNMENT THAT DOES NOT LISTEN TO PEOPLE LIKE YOU.
01:23:59THEY DON'T LISTEN.
01:24:00AND I THINK, TO YOUR QUESTION,
01:24:03WHAT CAN WE DO, I WILL BE CONCRETE.
01:24:07WE PASSED AND OPEN PRIMARIES REFERENDUM IN FLORIDA.
01:24:10WE DID NOT PASS IT. WE GOT 57% OF THE BOAT IN 2020,
01:24:15WHICH IS NOT ENOUGH. WE GOT MORE VOTES THAN TRUMP OR
01:24:18BIDEN BUT WE LOST. WE ARE GETTING LEGISLATION INTRODUCED.
01:24:22NEXT YEAR. WE WILL BE FIGHTING HARD FOR
01:24:26THAT.
01:24:27AND PEOPLE SAY OPEN PRIMARIES IS
01:24:32BOILING THE OCEAN COME UP A DROP OF THE BUCKET. WHAT IS THAT GOING TO CHANGE?
01:24:36I WILL TELL YOU. IT WILL UNLEASH INDEPENDENT
01:24:39VOTERS INTO THE FIRST ROUND OF
01:24:43THE ELECTORAL SYSTEM WHERE ALL THE DECISIONS ARE MADE.
01:24:46ALL THE HARD-CORE DEMOCRATS AND
01:24:51REPUBLICANS, THAT IS WHO VOTES IN THE PRIMARIES.
01:24:54AND WE ARE GOING TO BRING INDEPENDENTS INTO THEIR AND
01:24:59CHANGE THE CONVERSATION SO DON'T
01:25:01DESPAIR AND WHEN WE GET THAT BILL INTRODUCED MAKE SURE YOU
01:25:04FIND A WAY TO TELL ALL YOUR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS THAT THIS
01:25:07IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR FLORIDA AND FOR THE COUNTRY.
01:25:11HOST: CARL FROM MARYLAND, A REPUBLICAN.
01:25:16CALLER: I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.
01:25:19FIRST IS WHAT EFFORTS ARE
01:25:24UNDERWAY IN MARYLAND TO
01:25:25ESTABLISH AN OPEN PRIMARY?
01:25:29SECOND, ONCE THESE INDEPENDENTS
01:25:32GET TO WASHINGTON, IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THEY HAVE TO CAUCUS WITH THE REPUBLICANS OR DEMOCRATS.
01:25:38I WAS WONDERING, WHAT YOUR ORGANIZATION IS DOING LEGISLATION WISE OR LOBBYING
01:25:43WISE TO SAY THAT SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED. I DO NOT THINK WE SHOULD --
01:25:47BERNIE SANDERS IDENTIFIES AS AN INDEPENDENT AND YET HE IS
01:25:52RUNNING IN THE DEMOCRATIC
01:25:55PRESIDENT FOR PRIMARIES, CAUCUSING WITH THE DEMOCRATS.
01:25:59IN MY OPINION, HE IS REALLY DEMOCRATS ARE CALLING HIM AN INDEPENDENT IS KIND OF RIDICULOUS.
01:26:02GUEST: GREAT QUESTIONS.
01:26:06LET ME START WITH YOUR SECOND ONE.
01:26:09THERE IS NO RULE THAT YOU HAVE TO CAUCUS WITH THE DEMOCRATS OR REPUBLICANS.
01:26:13HIS HONORS THOSE -- IT IS ONE OF
01:26:16THOSE MYTHS. THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE DOES NOT EVEN HAVE TO BE A MEMBER OF CONGRESS.
01:26:20IN FACT, ALL THE MAJOR
01:26:23INDEPENDENTS RUNNING THIS YEAR ARE SAYING IF WE GET TO
01:26:27WASHINGTON, WE ARE NOT CAUCUSING WITH EITHER PARTY. WE WILL CREATE AN INDEPENDENT
01:26:31CAUCUS. THE TWO PARTIES WHO RUN THE INSTITUTION COULD SAY, THEN YOU
01:26:35DON'T GET TO BE ON COMMITTEES,
01:26:38TO GET ALL THE PERKS OF BEING ON TEAM RED OR BLUE, BUT THEY WILL
01:26:41HAVE TO DO THAT IN FRONT OF THE
01:26:45AMERICAN PEOPLE. THEY WILL HAVE TO SHOW THEIR CARDS.
01:26:48AND SAY PARTY CONTROL IS MORE
01:26:52IMPORTANT THAN DOING THE PEOPLES BUSINESS.
01:26:55I THINK ONE OF THE GOALS OF AN INDEPENDENT CAUCUS IS TO BRING
01:26:59THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IN ON THAT
01:27:03CONVERSATION BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT.
01:27:05MARYLAND IS A HOTSPOT FOR OPEN PRIMARIES RIGHT NOW.
01:27:09WE ARE WORKING WITH A FORMER
01:27:10LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR, OUR LEAD
01:27:15ATTORNEY APPEARED WE HAVE A STATE LAWSUIT CHALLENGING THE
01:27:17FACT THAT THE MARYLAND STATE
01:27:20CONSTITUTION SAYS EVERY CITIZEN IS ELIGIBLE TO VOTE IN EVERY ELECTION BUT A MILLION A
01:27:24DEPENDENT VOTERS ARE SHUT OUT OF THE PRIMARIES IN MARYLAND AND WE
01:27:29ARE SAYING IF THE PARTIES WANT TO DO THAT THEN WHY IS THE
01:27:32PUBLIC PAYING FOR IT? LET THE PARTIES DO IT ON THEIR OWN TIME AND THEIR OWN DIME.
01:27:38WE ARE WORKING WITH A DELEGATE,
01:27:42A DEMOCRAT FROM THE BALTIMORE
01:27:43AREA, WHO HAS LEGISLATION THAT
01:27:47ALLOWS INDEPENDENTS TO SIMPLY BE
01:27:50ABLE TO PICK A BALLOT ON PRIMARY DAY.
01:27:54NOT THE IDEAL SOLUTION BUT A BIG STEP FORWARD.
01:27:58WE HAVE GOTTEN A LOT OF MEDIA ABOUT THIS.
01:28:02WE HAVE GOVERNOR MOORE ON THE HOTSPOT ABOUT THIS.
01:28:05HE TALKED ABOUT HIS SUPPORT FOR
01:28:06OPEN PRIMARIES AND HIS STAFF
01:28:09REELED HIM IN AND SAID THE
01:28:13OFFICIAL POSITION OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS TO BE
01:28:15AGAINST OPEN PRIMARIES SO THAT WAS A FUN CONTROVERSY.
01:28:19BUT WE ARE PUTTING PRESSURE ON
01:28:23THE DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS
01:28:24AND GOVERNOR AND COURTS TO SAY
01:28:28THERE ARE A MILLION A DEPENDENT
01:28:31-- INDEPENDENTS IN MARYLAND TO
01:28:35HAVE NO VOICE AND THAT HAS TO BE ADDRESSED.
01:28:38HOST: YOUR ORGANIZATION REPORTS
01:28:42MORE THAN 17 MILLION INDEPENDENTS WERE SHUT OUT OF
01:28:48TAXPAYER PRIMARIES. CLOSED PRIMARIES IS SOMETHING PEOPLE CALL THEM.
01:28:52CAN YOU TALK ABOUT DEMOCRATIC AND REPUBLICAN EFFORTS TO CLOSE PRIMARIES AND RESTRICT PUBLIC
01:28:57INPUT, FROM GOP LAWSUITS IN
01:28:59TEXAS TO DEMOCRATS DEFENDING THE
01:29:01CLOSE PARTY SYSTEM IN NEW YORK?
01:29:05TALK ABOUT HOW UBIQUITOUS IT IS.
01:29:12GUEST: WHEN THEY THINGS ABOUT OPEN PRIMARIES IS IT IS NOT AN ISSUE THAT ONE PARTY IS FOR THE OTHER IS AGAINST.
01:29:17YOU HAVE DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS OPPOSING IT AND DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS
01:29:21SUPPORTING IT AND I THINK THAT
01:29:25THE WAY I BEST UNDERSTAND THE UPTICK IN EFFORTS TO CLOSE THE
01:29:28PRIMARIES IS THAT GERRYMANDERING IS NOW COMPLETE.
01:29:34THEY HAVE GERRYMANDERED THE COUNTRY. ONCE YOU HAVE DONE THAT, ONCE
01:29:38GENERAL ELECTION COMPETITION HAS BEEN TAMPED DOWN, THOUGH NOT
01:29:41PERFECTLY, CONTROL THE
01:29:48IN TEXAS AND SOUTH CAROLINA AND ALABAMA, YOU HAVE THE G.O.P.
01:29:51SAYING ENOUGH OF THIS, LETTING ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO VOTE IN THE
01:29:54REPUBLICAN PRIMARY, WE'VE GOT TO
01:29:56GET CONTROL OF THAT, AND THEY
01:29:58ARE FILING LAWSUITS AND LEGISLATION.
01:30:01LAWSUITS IN TEXAS AND IN SOUTH CAROLINA, LEGISLATION IN
01:30:05ALABAMA, TO GET -- TO FORCE
01:30:07VOTERS TO JOIN A PARTY BEFORE
01:30:10THEY'RE ELIGIBLE TO VOTE IN A PRIMARY. NOT TO BE OUTDONE, THE DEMOCRATS
01:30:14ARE FIERCELY FIGHTING OPEN
01:30:17PRIMARIES IN NEW YORK CITY AND
01:30:18NEW YORK STATE, AND IN
01:30:22CALIFORNIA WHERE THEY'VE HAD A
01:30:25NON-PARTISAN TOP TWO PRIMARY, WHICH HAS WORKED VERY WELL FOR
01:30:28THE LAST 16 YEARS, THE
01:30:32DEMOCRATIC PARTY -- SOME FACTIONS WITHIN IT ARE STARTING
01:30:34A BALLOT REFERENDUM TO OVERTURN IT, TO GO BACK TO THE DAYS WHEN
01:30:38INDEPENDENT VOTERS WERE NOT ALLOWED TO VOTE IN PRIMARIES.
01:30:41WHAT'S DRIVING THAT?
01:30:45PARTIES DON'T LIKE COMPETITION.
01:30:47THEY WANT LOW TURNOUT,
01:30:51MEMBERS-ONLY PRIMARIES, THAT THEY'RE MORE CONTROLLABLE,
01:30:54THEY'RE CHEAPER. IT GIVES PARTY LEADERSHIP AND
01:30:58ACTIVISTS MORE CLOUT. WHEN YOU OPEN THE DOORS AND LET
01:31:01THE PEOPLE IN, IT MAKES LIFE
01:31:05MORE DIFFICULT FOR PARTY
01:31:09INSIDERS.
01:31:10I WOULD JUST ADD, OPENING THE
01:31:13PRIMARIES IS ONLY STEP ONE. ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE TAKING
01:31:16VERY SERIOUSLY -- AND THERE ARE SOME REALLY CREATIVE WORK BEING
01:31:21DONE ON THIS AROUND THE COUNTRY -- IS THAT EVEN IN STATES WHERE THEY LET EVERYBODY
01:31:24VOTE, MOST PEOPLE DON'T VOTE IN
01:31:28PRIMARIES BECAUSE WE HAVE ALL BEEN TAUGHT THAT THE REAL
01:31:31ELECTION IS IN NOVEMBER. THE PRIMARY IS WHERE THE
01:31:35FANATICS VOTE, THE REAL HARD CORE PEOPLE VOTE. I AM A REGULAR PERSON.
01:31:38I VOTE IN NOVEMBER.
01:31:39THAT'S A CULTURAL UNDERSTANDING
01:31:43THAT'S VERY DEEP, AND WE HAVE TO CHANGE THAT.
01:31:46WE HAVE TO EDUCATE THE AMERICAN
01:31:48PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY THE
01:31:51DECISIONS ABOUT WHO REPRESENTS YOU, THAT'S MADE IN APRIL OR MAY
01:31:55OR JUNE IN THE PRIMARY.
01:31:58IN EIGHT OUT OF 10 ELECTIONS,
01:32:01ROUND ONE IS WHERE ALL THE
01:32:03ACTION IS, AND SO WE CAN'T JUST FOCUS ON CHANGING THE LAW.
01:32:06WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE'S UNDERSTANDING OF THE
01:32:10IMPORTANCE OF VOTING IN PRIMARIES.
01:32:11HOST: WE HAVE A COUPLE CALLS IN
01:32:14THE BANK HERE, BUT I WANT TO ASK
01:32:16YOU SPECIFICALLY ABOUT SOME OF THESE INDIVIDUAL CANDIDATES YOU
01:32:20MENTIONED EARLIER. BUT THE DEMOCRATS HAVE DONE
01:32:22SOMETHING ACTUALLY INTERESTING
01:32:25THIS MIDTERM ELECTION THAT THEY DIDN'T DO LAST TIME, WHICH IS
01:32:28THAT THEY'VE CLEARED THE WAY FOR
01:32:31INDEPENDENT CANDIDATES TO CHALLENGE REPUBLICAN SENATORS IN
01:32:34A NUMBER OF STATES, INCLUDING
01:32:37NEBRASKA, SOUTH DAKOTA, AND
01:32:40IDAHO, SAYING THAT AN INDEPENDENT CANDIDATE IS
01:32:42COMPETITIVE -- EXCUSE ME, AND AN INDEPENDENT CANDIDATE IS
01:32:45COMPETITIVE IN MONTANA'S OPEN G.O.P. SENATE RACE.
01:32:48WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT
01:32:51DEMOCRATS LED BY CHUCK SCHUMER
01:32:53KIND OF MOVING OR ALLOWING
01:32:56INDEPENDENTS TO RUN IN RACES
01:33:00THAT MAYBE ANOTHER TIME THEY
01:33:01WOULD HAVE WANTED DEMOCRATS TO
01:33:04BE THAT CANDIDATE IN?
01:33:10GUEST: WELL, THANK YOU, CHUCK, FOR LETTING US RUN FOR OFFICE.
01:33:12THAT'S SO GOOD OF YOU.
01:33:15NO, BUT -- NOT TO BE SNARKY, I
01:33:18THINK THAT ONE OF THE THINGS
01:33:20THAT'S CHANGED IN THE LAST 20
01:33:23YEARS IS THAT IT USED TO BE THAT
01:33:28THERE WERE REPUBLICAN STRONG
01:33:31HOLDS AND DEMOCRATIC STRONGHOLDS
01:33:35BUT THAT BOTH POLITICAL PARTIES PRETTY MUCH COMPETED EVERYWHERE
01:33:39IN THE COUNTRY, AND THAT'S NO LONGER THE CASE.
01:33:43TOM DASCHLE REPRESENTED SOUTH DAKOTA.
01:33:46HE WAS THE MAJORITY LEADER 20 YEARS AGO.
01:33:49THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY OF SOUTH
01:33:51DAKOTA IS KIND OF LIKE THE GREEN PARTY.
01:33:54THEY BARELY EXIST. THERE ARE SO MANY PARTS OF THE
01:33:58COUNTRY WHERE THERE'S ONLY ONE
01:34:01POLITICAL PARTY. SO THE STATES WHERE INDEPENDENTS
01:34:05ARE GETTING THE MOST TRACTION,
01:34:08NEBRASKA, SOUTH DAKOTA, IDAHO, MONTANA, ARE STATES IN WHICH THE
01:34:13DEMOCRATIC PARTY BRAND IS REALLY
01:34:17IN THE TOILET.
01:34:19SO ON THE ONE HAND, I UNDERSTAND
01:34:22THEIR SPIN, LIKE THEY'RE
01:34:25GRACIOUSLY STEPPING ASIDE. BUT I THINK IT'S MORE ACCURATE
01:34:28TO SAY THEY REALIZE THAT THE
01:34:30PEOPLE IN THOSE STATES DON'T TRUST THEM.
01:34:34THEY'RE LOOKING FOR ALTERNATIVES. THEY DON'T LIKE WHAT THE
01:34:37REPUBLICANS ARE DOING, BUT THE
01:34:39DEMOCRATS ARE NOT TO THEIR LIKING AND INDEPENDENT
01:34:43CANDIDATES HAVE EMERGED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT AND ADVANCE THAT AND DEVELOP THAT.
01:34:46WE WILL SEE HOW FAR WE GET THIS YEAR.
01:34:48BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT THE
01:34:51DEMOCRATS ARE STRONG IN SOUTH
01:34:53DAKOTA AND MONTANA AND THEY'RE GRACIOUSLY STEPPING ASIDE.
01:34:57I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE CASE. HOST: IS THERE A COMMON THEME
01:35:00THAT SOME OF THESE INDEPENDENT CANDIDATES ARE RUNNING ON?
01:35:04OBVIOUSLY, YES, THE DEMOCRATIC
01:35:06PARTY LARGELY IN POLLING WE HAVE
01:35:09SEEN HAS A PRETTY NEGATIVE APPROVAL RATE.
01:35:12I BELIEVE IT'S LOWER THAN THE
01:35:14PRESIDENT'S, BUT WHAT DO YOU SEE
01:35:18THESE INDEPENDENT CANDIDATES FROM NEBRASKA, FROM SOUTH
01:35:20DAKOTA, FROM IDAHO, FROM MONTANA
01:35:23RUNNING ON THAT FEELS DIFFERENT
01:35:25THAN A TRADITIONAL DEMOCRAT?
01:35:29GUEST: YEAH, I THINK THAT THE
01:35:32BIG DIFFERENCE IF YOU LISTEN TO
01:35:34THEM VERY CAREFULLY IS THAT
01:35:36THEY'RE NOT JUST SAYING HERE'S
01:35:39MY IDEAS, HERE'S MY IDEOLOGY,
01:35:44HERE'S MY PROGRAMS THAT I WANT TO PURSUE.
01:35:47WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS IN DIFFERENT WAYS, IN DIFFERENT
01:35:51VOICES, AND I THINK THIS IS A REAL STRENGTH, THEY'RE SAYING
01:35:55OUR SYSTEM OF REPRESENTATION IS NOT WORKING.
01:35:57IT'S BEEN HIJACKED. IT'S BEEN CO-OPTED.
01:36:01IT'S BEEN CORRUPTED. WE, THE PEOPLE, HAVE TO TAKE
01:36:04BACK THE LEVERS OF GOVERNMENT.
01:36:05WE HAVE TO -- SO I AM GOING TO
01:36:09WASHINGTON NOT BECAUSE I AM THE MOST BRILLIANT PERSON WITH THE
01:36:12BESS IDEAS, BUT I AM GOING TO REPRESENT A VOICE THAT'S BEEN
01:36:15SHUT OUT OF THE CONVERSATION.
01:36:19THE VOICE IS, WE AMERICANS HAVE
01:36:21TO WORK TOGETHER TO SOLVE THE PROBLEMS THAT WE FACE.
01:36:24WE HAVE TO BRING LIBERAL AND CONSERVATIVE TOGETHER INSTEAD OF
01:36:27PITTING THEM AGAINST EACH OTHER LIKE THEY'RE MORTAL ENEMIES.
01:36:31HE THINK ALL OF THESE -- I THINK ALL OF THESE CANDIDATES ARE
01:36:34FINDING CREATIVE WAYS TO
01:36:37ARTICULATE, WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE GAME.
01:36:39WE CAN'T JUST ELECT ME AND I WILL BE A BETTER REPRESENTATIVE.
01:36:43WE HAVE TO CHANGE THIS GAME
01:36:44BECAUSE THIS GAME IS REALLY
01:36:47HURTING OUR COMMUNITIES, OUR STATES, AND OUR COUNTRY. HOST: ALL RIGHT.
01:36:51JEFFREY FROM GREENVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA, A DEMOCRAT. GOOD MORNING, JEFFREY.
01:36:55CALLER: GOOD MORNING.
01:36:58GUEST: GOOD MORNING, SIR. CALLER: YES, HELLO?
01:37:01HOST: YOU ARE ON THE LINE. WE CAN HEAR YOU. CALLER: OK, THANK YOU.
01:37:05THANK YOU.
01:37:06WHEN ARE THE PARTIES GOING TO
01:37:11GET THE DIRTY MONEY AND GET THE
01:37:12MONEY OUT OF POLITICS?
01:37:17POLITICIANS ON BOTH SIDES ARE
01:37:20MORE INTERESTED IN CORPORATE
01:37:22MONEY AND LESS INTERESTED IN THEIR CONSTITUENTS WHO VOTED
01:37:26THEM IN TO WORK FOR THEM.
01:37:29THE INDEPENDENTS ARE STARTING TO
01:37:31REALLY LOOK MORE INTERESTING AS
01:37:37ANOTHER CANDIDATE TO FOLLOW, ANOTHER THIRD PARTY.
01:37:40HOW LONG WILL IT BE BEFORE --
01:37:44HOW MANY CYCLES WILL IT BE BEFORE THE INDEPENDENTS HAVE ANY STRENGTH?
01:37:47I AM A DIE-HARD DEMOCRAT, AND IT
01:37:51BOTHERS ME THAT THE CORPORATE
01:37:55MONEY HAS RUN SO RAMPANT AND THAT THE CORPORATIONS ARE
01:37:59PLAYING BOTH SIDES OF THE PARTIES.
01:38:02HOST: ALL RIGHT.
01:38:03LET'S LET JOHN JUMP IN THERE.
01:38:06GUEST: YEAH, I MEAN, I WISH I HAD A TIMETABLE.
01:38:10I REALLY DO, JEFFREY. I DON'T.
01:38:13IT'S A STRUGGLE.
01:38:15I HAVE BEEN A POLITICAL ACTIVIST IN THE INDEPENDENT REFORM ARENA
01:38:18FOR 35 YEARS AND WE HAVE HAD SOME REAL FORWARD STEPS, AND
01:38:22THEN WE HAVE GOTTEN PUNCHED IN THE FACE.
01:38:23WE ARE UP AGAINST VERY
01:38:27WELL-FUNDED INCUMBENTS WHO WANT TO HOLD ON TO THEIR POWER, AND
01:38:30THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT IN EVERY WAY THAT THEY CAN.
01:38:33THEY HAVE A LOT OF MONEY AND THAT MONEY IS INCREASING.
01:38:35POLITICS IS A BOOMING BUSINESS.
01:38:39I THINK I READ SOMEWHERE THE ESTIMATE, EVERY YEAR THERE'S 15%
01:38:43MORE MONEY RAISED IN POLITICS.
01:38:46BUT DON'T COUNT OUT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
01:38:48I REALLY -- I EXPERIENCE THIS
01:38:50EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK.
01:38:53DESPITE THE CORRUPTION, THE GRAFT, THE HUGE AMOUNTS OF
01:38:57MONEY, THE OBSCENE AMOUNTS OF MONEY, THE NEGATIVE TV
01:39:01COMMERCIALS THAT ARE DESIGNED TO MAKE PEOPLE HATE THEIR
01:39:04NEIGHBORS, DESPITE ALL THAT, THE
01:39:08AMERICAN PEOPLE'S CREATIVITY AND
01:39:13INTEREST, THIS EXPERIMENT IN SELF-GOVERNMENT NOT BE PUT IN
01:39:16THE DUSTBIN, THAT WE KEEP GOING, WE FIND WAYS TO BUILD WITH OUR
01:39:20NEIGHBORS AND OUR FAMILIES AND BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER.
01:39:23I FIND A LEVEL OF ENTHUSIASM FOR
01:39:28THAT. REALLY, REALLY, IT'S INSPIRATIONAL.
01:39:30YEAH, WE ARE UP AGAINST
01:39:33WELL-FUNDED INCUMBENTS, BUT WE
01:39:35HAVE EACH OTHER AND AGAIN MY EXPERIENCE IS THE AMERICAN
01:39:39PEOPLE WANT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS.
01:39:42HOST: FRANK FROM STATEN ISLAND, AN INDEPENDENT.
01:39:45GOOD MORNING, FRANK. CALLER: GOOD MORNING.
01:39:48I WILL TRY TO DO A FEW THINGS.
01:39:50FIRST OF ALL, JOHN, I LOVE YOUR NAME.
01:39:53IT REMINDS ME OF THE NOVELIST.
01:40:00GUEST: YES. CALLER: WITH OPEN PRIMARIES, OK,
01:40:03I LIVE IN NEW YORK AND ALL THAT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF HAVING AN
01:40:07OPEN PRIMARY WOULD HAVE
01:40:10PREVENTED A DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST FROM WINNING AND ALL OF THAT.
01:40:13SOMETIMES I THINK LIKE AN OPEN
01:40:16PRIMARY, WHEN YOU HAVE KIDS IN A CLASSROOM AND THEY'RE VOTING ON
01:40:20WHAT TO HAVE FOR LUNCH AND THEY HAVE MANY CHOICES.
01:40:23THEY DON'T HAVE ANY PARTIES
01:40:24BECAUSE THEY'RE LITTLE KIDS IN A CLASS, BUT THEY'RE VOTING ON
01:40:28WHAT IS THE BEST THING?
01:40:31WHAT IS THE BEST CHOICE TO HAVE?
01:40:37GUEST: RIGHT. CALLER: SOMETIMES WHATEVER WINS
01:40:39WILL NOT GET 50%, LIKE IT MAY
01:40:41NOT REPRESENT THE TRUE VOICE OF
01:40:45THE PEOPLE. GUEST: SURE.
01:40:48YEAH, LOOK, THERE'S -- I THINK
01:40:53THAT THE NOTION THAT AN OPEN
01:40:56PRIMARY WILL DELIVER THIS TYPE
01:40:59OF CANDIDATE IS WRONG.
01:41:01I THINK DEMOCRACY AT ITS BEST,
01:41:04AT ITS BEST, IS INPREDICTABLE.
01:41:07IF DEMOCRACY EVER BECOMES A -- IF WE DO THIS SYSTEM, THEN THIS
01:41:10RESULT WILL COME ABOUT, WE ARE
01:41:12MISSING THE BEN FETES OF --
01:41:15BENEFITS OF DEMOCRACY.
01:41:18THE UNCERTAINTY, THE FACT THINGS
01:41:22ARE UNCERTAIN, INCLUDING MISTAKES, INCLUDING MISSTEPS,
01:41:25AND I THINK THAT'S A FEATURE OF
01:41:26DEMOCRACY, NOT A BUG.
01:41:29BUT THERE IS THIS CULTURE THAT WE LIVE IN RIGHT NOW, THE
01:41:33POLITICAL CULTURE, AND I HOPE I
01:41:35AM NOT SOUNDING TOO MARTY PANTS
01:41:38HERE -- SMARTY-PANTS HERE.
01:41:41IT'S ALL ABOUT WINNING.
01:41:44EVERYTHING THAT WE ARE TAUGHT ABOUT AMERICAN POLITICS IS THAT
01:41:47THERE'S ONE THING AND ONE THING
01:41:50ONLY, WHO WINS.
01:41:51AND I ACTUALLY DOPT THINK -- DON'T THINK THAT'S TRUE.
01:41:55I THINK THAT THE CREATIVE CAPACITY OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
01:41:58TO EXPRESS OURSELVES AND TO
01:42:01DRIVE NEW CONVERSATIONS IS MORE
01:42:05IMPORTANT THAN WHO WINS. I COULD MAKE AN ARGUMENT THAT
01:42:09THE BIGGEST CHANGE AGENT IN THE
01:42:121992 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION WAS
01:42:14THE GUY WHO GOT NO ELECTORAL VOTES, ROSS PEROT.
01:42:17HE COMPLETELY CHANGED THE POLITICAL CONVERSATION IN THIS COUNTRY AND HE DIDN'T GET A
01:42:21SINGLE ELECTORAL VOTE. SO I THINK WE HAVE TO BROADEN
01:42:25OUR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE
01:42:27BENEFITS ARE OF OPEN SYSTEMS, OF
01:42:30SYSTEMS THAT ARE NOT CONTROLLED
01:42:33BY SMALL GROUPS OF PEOPLE.
01:42:35IT'S NOT JUST THE OUTCOME. IT'S NOT JUST WHO GETS ELECTED.
01:42:39IT'S WHAT KIND OF CONVERSATIONS
01:42:40AND COALITIONS AND IDEAS CAN
01:42:44FLOURISH. THAT'S HOW I THINK ABOUT IT. HOST: ALL RIGHT.
01:42:47THAT'S JOHN OPDYCKE FROM OPEN
01:42:51PRIMARIES, PRESIDENT AND FOUNDER. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING WITH US THIS MORNING.
01:42:54GUEST: MY PLEASURE. HOST: SHORTLY "NEWSWEEK" WHITE
01:42:57HOUSE REPORTER LEONARDO FELDZMAN WILL BREAK DOWN WHAT'S ON
01:43:01PRESIDENT TRUMP'S AGENDA THIS WEEK AS PART OF OUR OPEN FORUM.
01:43:04START CALLING IN NOW. SEND IN YOUR COMMENTS AND CONCERNS. IT'S OPEN FORUM.
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01:46:16>> LEADERS SEEM TO LIKE TO WEAR WIGS. HOW COME HE DIDN'T HAVE A WIG?
01:46:20PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID I MADE A MISTAKE THE FIRST TIME.
01:46:23I SHOULD HAVE GIVEN IT TO YOU THE FIRST TIME. YOUR FIRST BOOK WAS CALLED A
01:46:27TIME TO KILL. HOW MANY PUBLISHERS TURNED THAT DOWN? >> WELL, ALL OF THEM.
01:46:31>> IT'S RARE TO SEE DONALD TRUMP LAUGH. >> HE DOESN'T LIKE TO SMILE.
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01:47:04♪ >> "WASHINGTON JOURNAL" CONTINUES.
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01:47:33THE HEADLINE IS FEDERAL AGENTS
01:47:36RAID OMAR'S D.C. HOME AMID
01:47:39IMMIGRATION FRAUD INVESTIGATION. BEAR WITH ME WHILE I SCROLL DOWN.
01:47:43THAT PUBLISHED AT 8:39 A.M. EASTERN TIME.
01:47:46IT SAYS, THE HOME OF OMAR,
01:47:51REPRESENTATIVE FROM MINNESOTA,
01:47:51WAS RAIDED EARLY MONDAY MORNING
01:47:55BY HOMELAND SECURITY INVESTIGATIONS, A SOURCE FAMILIAR WITH THE MATTER TOLD
01:47:58FOX NEWS. MULTIPLE FEDERAL AGENTS WERE
01:48:02SEEN OUTSIDE OF OMAR'S HOME IN
01:48:05EARLY HOURS OF MONDAY. TWO SOURCES CLOSE TO THE INVESTIGATION SAY THE SEARCH
01:48:09FROM A CRIMINAL FRAUD INVESTIGATION INTO THE SOME
01:48:13ISALI BORN CONGRESSWOMAN'S IMMIGRATION PAPERWORK FILLED OUT
01:48:16BY HER LATE FATHER WHEN SHE WAS A CHILD.
01:48:19THE RAID STARTED AROUND 6:00
01:48:22A.M. WITH H.S.I. AND DEPARTMENT
01:48:25OF HOMELAND SECURITY LEADING THE OPERATION. THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE IS
01:48:28ALSO INVOLVED IN THE INVESTIGATION.
01:48:31TODAY IN WASHINGTON, D.C. AREA HOMELAND SECURITY INVESTIGATIONS
01:48:34EXECUTED A JUDICIALLY AUTHORIZED SEARCH WARRANT SECURED BY THE
01:48:38DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. THIS ENFORCEMENT ACTION IS PART
01:48:41OF AN ONGOING FEDERAL INVESTIGATION, A SPOKESPERSON
01:48:44TOLD FOX NEWS DIGITAL.
01:48:46THE BORDER CZAR SAID THAT THE PROGRESSIVE CONGRESSWOMAN WAS
01:48:50SUBJECT TO AN ONGOING CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION.
01:48:53H.S.I. IS A PRINCIPAL INVESTIGATING ARM OF D.H.S.
01:48:57ITS SCOPE INCLUDES INVESTIGATING GLOBAL THREATS INCLUDING HUMAN
01:49:00TRAFFICKING AND CHILD SEX EXPLOITATION, DRUG SMUGGLING AND
01:49:04CYBERCRIME. H.S.I. PLAYS A MAJOR FRONTLINE
01:49:07ROLE IN AMERICA'S COUNTERTERRORISM OPERATIONS.
01:49:09THIS STORY IS DEVELOPING, THAT WAS BREAKING THIS MORNING, THAT
01:49:13THE FEDERAL AUTHORITIES HAVE
01:49:15EXECUTED A SEARCH WARRANTS
01:49:19AGAINST ILHAN OMAR AT HER D.C. HOME.
01:49:22IT'S OPEN FORUM. YOU CAN TALK ABOUT ANYTHING. ANTHONY FROM FLORIDA, AN
01:49:26INDEPENDENT. GOOD MORNING, ANTHONY.
01:49:28CALLER: GOOD MORNING.
01:49:33SHE'S FULL OF ALL THAT JAZZ. HOW ARE YOU DOING?
01:49:37HOST: I AM DOING WELL. NICE TO HEAR FROM YOU.
01:49:41CALLER: I MISS YOU.
01:49:42YOU KNOW, MY WIFE AND I, WE HAVE
01:49:48DATE NIGHT.
01:49:51WE ARE TRYING TO HAVE A ROW
01:49:54MAPTIC NIGHT -- ROMANTIC.
01:49:55GOT THE MUSIC PLAYING.
01:50:00THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, IT BREAKS
01:50:01IN WITH ALL THIS POLITICAL,
01:50:04COMMERCIAL, VOTE FOR US, DON'T VOTE FOR NIXON.
01:50:08LET EVERYBODY OUT OF JAIL.
01:50:10WE WON'T HAVE OUR DEMOCRACY.
01:50:15HOST: SO YOU HEARD AN ASHLEY MOODY CAMPAIGN AD.
01:50:19CALLER: AND ANOTHER CAMPAIGN AD. YOU GET A NICE SONG TO SET THE
01:50:23MOOD AND BURST IN WITH OH, DON'T
01:50:25VOTE FOR THE ONE THAT VOTES FOR
01:50:32THAT PARTY. IT'S RIDICULOUS.
01:50:35I WANT EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE TO VOTE BECAUSE THE
01:50:38MOST IMPORTANT THING IS, YOU
01:50:41KNOW, WE DON'T -- I BELIEVE THAT
01:50:46OUR RIGHT TO VOTE IS BEING ATTACKED. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
01:50:50I HATE TO SAY -- I HAVE TO LOOK AT THE DEMOCRATS BECAUSE I
01:50:53BELIEVE THAT THE REPUBLICANS IN
01:50:57THE HOUSE, WE MIGHT HAVE IT TO
01:50:58WHERE THE PRESIDENT GOES BACK TO FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT WHERE THE
01:51:02PRESIDENT HAS NO LIMITATION ON HIS YEARS OF BEING IN THE WHITE
01:51:05HOUSE. AND I DON'T KNOW.
01:51:09IT'S JUST -- THAT'S WHAT I FEEL.
01:51:11I DON'T HAVE ANY FACTS, BUT THAT'S WHAT I FEEL LIKE.
01:51:15I LOVE MY COUNTRY.
01:51:19AND I AM PROMOTING THAT OPEN
01:51:24FORUM GOES BACK TO ONE HOUR.
01:51:26THEN THE GUESTS GET ONE HOUR.
01:51:29SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. BYE-BYE.
01:51:33HOST: ALL RIGHT. POLITICAL ADS BREAKING UP
01:51:36ROMANTIC TIMES. THAT'S THE FIRST TIME I HEARD
01:51:39IT, BUT YOU HEARD IT FROM ANTHONY IN FLORIDA. JAMES FROM VIRGINIA, AN INDEPENDENT.
01:51:43GOOD MORNING, JAMES. IT'S OPEN FORUM.
01:51:45CALLER: GOOD MORNING.
01:51:48I WANT TO COMMENT ON THE LAST
01:51:50SEGMENT WITH THE INDEPENDENTS.
01:51:54I HAVE BEEN REGISTERED INDEPENDENT MY WHOLE LIFE.
01:51:56I WAS 15 AND 16 YEARS OLD DURING
01:51:59THE ANTI-VIETNAM WAR PROTESTS,
01:52:03THE CHICAGO SEVEN, THE
01:52:07WEATHERMAN, THE KENT STATE MURDER.
01:52:11THAT YOUNG -- AT THAT YOUNG AGE, I REALIZED THERE WAS TOTAL
01:52:14POLARIZATION AND IT WASN'T GOING TO DO ANY GOOD TO STICK WITH ONE
01:52:18SIDE.
01:52:20I ALSO REMEMBER ROSS PEROT'S RUN
01:52:26FOR PRESIDENT. I VOTED FOR HIM AND HELPED PUT
01:52:29BILL CLINTON IN OFFICE AS A
01:52:33RESULT. I HAVE GONE FORWARD FROM THEN
01:52:36AND I DO THINK ONE WAY TO SHORT
01:52:38CUT ALL OF THIS WOULD BE TO GO
01:52:40TO RANKED CHOICE VOTING AND A
01:52:42LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND
01:52:44THAT, BUT IT DOES GIVE THE
01:52:47OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE WITH
01:52:49DIFFERENT IDEOLOGIES TO VOTE.
01:52:52I MEAN, TO RUN.
01:52:55HOST: ALL RIGHT. THAT'S JAMES FROM VIRGINIA, AN INDEPENDENT.
01:52:59CATHERINE FROM LONG ISLAND, A DEMOCRAT. GUYS, THIS IS OPEN FORUM, SO I
01:53:03WOULD LOVE IF YOU CAN START CALLING IN NOW. YOU CAN TALK ABOUT ANY PUBLIC
01:53:06POLICY OR POLITICAL ISSUE ON YOUR MIND. I WILL GO TO YOUR LINES QUICKLY.
01:53:10REPUBLICANS, YOUR LINE, 202-748-8001.
01:53:14DEMOCRATS, YOUR LINE, 202-748-8000.
01:53:17INDEPENDENTS, YOUR LINE,
01:53:19202-748-8002. START CALLING IN NOW.
01:53:22YOU CAN ALSO REACH US BY TEXT MESSAGE.
01:53:24THAT LINE IS 202-748-8003 OR SOCIAL MEDIA.
01:53:28INCLUDE YOUR FIRST NAME, CITY AND STATE. CATHERINE FROM LONG ISLAND, A
01:53:32DEMOCRAT. GOOD MORNING. IT'S OPEN FORUM. CALLER: GOOD MORNING.
01:53:36I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE AN ANSWER
01:53:39TO A WOMAN WHO CALLED IN ABOUT A
01:53:41MONTH AGO, WHO WANTED TO KNOW WHERE DID THE MONEY COME FROM
01:53:46FOR DONALD TRUMP'S NEW PLANE?
01:53:51WELL, $934 MILLION IS THE TOTAL
01:53:53OR WAS THE TOTAL BUDGET FOR THE
01:53:55UPKEEP OF OUR SILOED NUCLEAR
01:53:59MISSILES. THIS IS OUR INTERCONTINENTAL
01:54:01BALLISTIC MISSILES WITH THEIR NUCLEAR WARHEADS.
01:54:04DONALD TRUMP TOOK AWAY THE
01:54:06ENTIRE BUDGET FOR THEIR UPKEEP.
01:54:08SO HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO ANSWER
01:54:11THE IMMINENT THREAT THAT TRUMP KEEPS TALKING ABOUT?
01:54:15HE SAYS THAT NOW SAN DIEGO'S GOING TO GET BLOWN UP.
01:54:19SO HOW CAN WE USE OUR
01:54:22INTERCOULDN'T NENTAL NUKE --
01:54:25INTERCONTINENTAL NUCLEAR WARHEADS IF WE ARE NOT TAKING
01:54:28GOOD CARE OF THEM? WHEN IS DONALD TRUMP GOING TO
01:54:32RETURN THE BUDGET? WHEN ARE THE PEOPLE IN CHARGE IN
01:54:35CONGRESS GOING TO MAKE THIS MAN
01:54:37RETURN THAT MONEY SO THAT WE
01:54:40HAVE THE SAFETY OF OUR NUCLEAR MISSILES?
01:54:43IT'S 1/3 OF OUR NUCLEAR TRIAD.
01:54:47SO HE IS JUST A GRIFTER IN CHIEF
01:54:50AND I THINK HE IS A DANGER TO OUR COUNTRY, AND I THINK HE
01:54:54SHOULD BE ARRESTED AND GOTTEN
01:54:56OUT OF OFFICE AS A TRAITOR.
01:54:59HOST: THAT'S CATHERINE FROM LONG ISLAND, A DEMOCRAT.
01:55:02KEVIN FROM RIDGEWAY, ILLINOIS, A REPUBLICAN.
01:55:04GOOD MORNING, KEVIN.
01:55:07CALLER: HEY, GOOD MORNING. I WOULD LIKE TO TELL THE COUNTRY
01:55:10THAT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON GOD, WE
01:55:14NEED TO FOCUS ON JESUS, LOVE, PEACE.
01:55:16WHEN YOU LOOK BACK, YOU LOOK AT THE MONEY.
01:55:18THE MONEY SAYS IN GOD WE TRUST.
01:55:21NOW THERE'S A BIG KORAN MOVEMENT. THERE IS A BIG RELIGION MOVEMENT
01:55:25WITH THE MUSLIMS. IT'S NOT WHAT OUR COUNTRY WAS
01:55:28FOUNDED ON AND I FEEL LIKE THEY'RE THE ANTI-CHRIST AND I
01:55:31LIKE TO PRAY -- HOST: PHILLIP FROM ALEXANDRIA,
01:55:35VIRGINIA, A DEMOCRAT.
01:55:38CALLER: HOW ARE YOU DOING? HOST: GOOD MORNING.
01:55:40IT'S OPEN FORUM. CALLER: YEAH, THANK YOU.
01:55:43I JUST WANTED TO CALL IN AND SAY, WE NEED TO REALLY GET BACK
01:55:47TO SOME LEVEL OF LEVELHEADEDNESS IN POLITICS.
01:55:51I GREW UP DURING THE GEORGE BUSH
01:55:53SECOND ERA AND I WAS -- IT WAS A DIFFERENT TIME PERIOD.
01:55:57I STILL WAS LEANING REPUBLICAN IN MY FAMILY, BUT NOW I AM
01:56:01DEMOCRAT THIS TIME. THERE'S LIKE A FULL
01:56:04WEAPONIZATION OF THE POLITICAL
01:56:06SYSTEM AND THERE'S SO MUCH MONEY INVOLVED ON ALL SIDES.
01:56:10IT'S JUST EVERYONE IN BETWEEN IS SUFFERING.
01:56:14SOMETHING NEEDS TO CHANGE, BUT
01:56:15YOU KNOW, TO COMMENT ON THE LAST
01:56:19PERSON'S RELIGION THING, EVERYONE IS FREE TO WORSHIP WHO THEY WANT.
01:56:22THE WHOLE PITTING PEOPLE AGAINST EACH OTHER OVER WHAT WE LOOK
01:56:25LIKE OR RELIGION IS INSANE. LIKE THIS COUNTRY WAS NOT BUILT
01:56:29ON THAT. THIS COUNTRY WAS BUILT ON FOUNDATIONAL VALUES.
01:56:33YES, WE ALL HAVE -- IT'S JUST
01:56:37CRAZY. I AM SORRY. I AM ONE OF THE YOUNGER
01:56:41GENERATION. EVERYONE HERE SEEMS TO BE FROM THE OLDER GENERATION.
01:56:45THANK YOU. HOST: THAT'S PHILLIP FROM
01:56:49VIRGINIA, A DEMOCRAT CALLING IN. ONE STORY THAT WE ARE TRACKING
01:56:53THIS MORNING IS ON THE PLANNED
01:56:58EXECUTION THAT PETE HEGSETH, THE
01:57:00DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE SECRETARY,
01:57:02SAID COULD BE LIVESTREAMED. I AM LOOKING AT AN ARTICLE HERE.
01:57:06TRUMP EXPRESSES DOUBTS ABOUT LIVESTREAMING EXECUTION.
01:57:09BEAR WITH ME WHILE I SCROLL DOWN. IT SAYS, PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS
01:57:12SHARED MISGIVINGS ABOUT
01:57:15LIVESTREAMING THE EXECUTION OF A
01:57:17FORMER ARMY MAJOR WHO MURDERED
01:57:19PEOPLE AT FORT HOOD.
01:57:25WHY IT MATTERS, TRUMP HAS BEEN DELUGED WITH JEG TIFF INPUT
01:57:28ABOUT THE IDEA FROM A BIPARTISAN
01:57:30CHORUS OF LAWMAKERS. A LIVESTREAM OF FORMER ARMY
01:57:34MAJOR HASAN'S EXECUTION ON
01:57:38DECEMBER 3 "MIGHT NOT HAPPEN,"
01:57:43TRUMP SAID TO SOMEONE WHO SHARED THE COMMENT.
01:57:46HE DIDN'T SOUPED ENTHUSIASTIC --
01:57:49SOUPED ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT DOING THE EXECUTION.
01:57:52HE IS ASKING PEOPLE WHAT THEY THINK YESTERDAY ON MEET THE
01:57:55PRESS, SENATOR THOM TILLIS, OUTGOING REPUBLICAN SENATOR FROM
01:57:58NORTH CAROLINA WAS ASKED ABOUT
01:58:01D.O.D.'S PLAN TO PUBLICLY
01:58:03EXECUTE THE FORT HOOD SOLDIER. TAKE A LISTEN TO WHAT HE HAD TO
01:58:07SAY. >> TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS WILL
01:58:09USE THIS AS A RECITING TOOL -- RECRUITING TOOL.
01:58:13IT WILL RAH-RAHED -- IT WILL RADICALIZE OTHER PEOPLE.
01:58:17THIS IS NOT WHO WE ARE. THE FORT HOOD SHOOTER SHOULD BE
01:58:19PUT TO DEATH BUT THERE IS A WAY TO DEAL WITH THIS THAT'S PROPER
01:58:23AND THERE'S A WAY TO DEAL WITH THIS THAT'S MORE IMPROPER THAN I
01:58:26HAVE EVER OBSERVED IN MY LIFE.
01:58:28THIS IS NOT WHO WE ARE AND IT'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF WHAT PETE
01:58:32HEGSETH AND ALL OF HIS BRAVADO
01:58:35NEEDS TO GET THE HELL OUT OF THE
01:58:38DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE BECAUSE HE IS A FAILED LEADER. WE NEED STRONG LEADERSHIP
01:58:42SUPPORTING PRESIDENT TRUMP RIGHT NOW. WE NEED TO END THE CONFLICT IN
01:58:45IRAN AND I DO BELIEVE THAT SOME
01:58:48OF PETE HEGSETH'S MISMANAGEMENT,
01:58:51HE IS MORE RESPONSIBLE FOR
01:58:54INCREASED ENERGY PRICES THAN PRESIDENT ZELENSKY. WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THE REAL
01:58:57THREAT TO WESTERN DEMOCRACY IS
01:59:00NOT ANYBODY OTHER THAN VLADIMIR
01:59:03PUTIN AND A MAN WHO WANTS TO
01:59:05RE-ESTABLISH THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE AND COMMUNISM THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.
01:59:08HE IS NO DIFFERENT THAN KHRUSHCHEV.
01:59:10HE WANTS TO BURY US. PRESIDENT TRUMP WANTS TO --
01:59:14NEEDS TO RECOGNIZE THAT. >> YOU ARE BEING CRITICAL OF PETE HEGSETH.
01:59:18YOU DID VOTE TO CONFIRM PETE HEGSETH. DO YOU REGRET THAT VOTE?
01:59:22DO YOU BEAR ANY RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS MOMENT?
01:59:25>> WELL, I DON'T KNOW. I PROBABLY WAS A LITTLE SUT UNTIL MY BOOK.
01:59:29I DEDICATE A WHOLE CHAPTER TO MY BIGGEST REGRET. SO I THINK IT'S PRETTY CLEAR
01:59:33THAT I REGRET THAT DECISION.
01:59:35LOOK, I HAVE GOT A TRACK RECORD
01:59:38OF SUPPORTING PRESIDENTS, CABINET PICKS DATING ALL THE WAY BACK TO OBAMA.
01:59:41I DO BELIEVE A PRESIDENT DESERVES AS MANY OF THEIR PICKS
01:59:44AS POSSIBLE, BUT THERE'S NO QUESTION BASED ON HIS JOB
01:59:47PERFORMANCE HE GOT HIRED, BUT I AM SURE THAT IN YOUR BUSINESS
01:59:51AND EVERYBODY ELSE'S BUSINESS YOU HAVE HAD TO FIRE PEOPLE YOU HIRED.
01:59:54THAT'S THE POINT. I MADE A MISTAKE. I HAVE ADMITTED THAT I MADE A
01:59:57MISTAKE AND NOW I WANT TO TRY TO PUT SOMEBODY IN PLACE THAT WILL
02:00:00HELP THE PRESIDENT'S LEGACY AND
02:00:02MAKE AMERICANS SAFER AND THAT IS NOT PETE HEGSETH.
02:00:05HOST: THAT WAS SENATOR THOM TILLIS YESTERDAY TALKING ABOUT
02:00:09THE PLANS FOR THAT EXECUTION,
02:00:14WHETHER OR NOT IT CAN BE LIVESTREAMED. GOING TO THE WHITE HOUSE NOW,
02:00:18JOINING US IS THE WHITE HOUSE REPORTER FROM "NEWSWEEK."
02:00:22LEONARDO, THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US THIS MORNING. >> ABSOLUTELY.
02:00:25THANK YOU. HOST: PRESIDENT TRUMP IS ALREADY UP AND AT THEM THIS MORNING.
02:00:29TALK TO US ABOUT HIS DAY. WE ARE EXPECTING HIM TO HEAD TO
02:00:32OHIO TONIGHT FOR SENATOR JON
02:00:35HUSTED WHO IS RUNNING AS THE
02:00:38G.O.P. CANDIDATE THERE. >> THIS WEEK WILL BE A VERY BUSY
02:00:41WEEK FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP,
02:00:43ESPECIALLY JUST WEEKS INTO
02:00:45WHAT'S GOING TO BE A VERY, VERY
02:00:49TOUGH MIDTERM ELECTION.
02:00:50WE DO KNOW THAT HE IS HEADED TO OHIO TODAY.
02:00:54AS YOU MENTIONED, THAT WILL BE AT 7:00 P.M. EASTERN TIME.
02:00:57THAT'S WHEN THE RALLY IS SET TO START.
02:01:00BUT HE IS OBVIOUSLY SET TO DEPART HERE SOMETIME IN THE
02:01:04AFTERNOON. WE ALSO KNOW THAT TOMORROW HE IS
02:01:07HEADED TO ALASKA BECAUSE IN
02:01:08ALASKA, A RED STATE, THE
02:01:11INCOUPLE BENT SENATOR, DAN SULLIVAN, IS FACING A VERY TOUGH
02:01:15CHALLENGE OVER THERE AND THAT'S
02:01:17AGAINST DEMOCRAT MARY PELTOLA.
02:01:19WE KNOW THAT ON WEDNESDAY HE
02:01:21WILL RED TO ARIZONA AND -- HE
02:01:25WILL HEAD TO ARIZONA AND GEORGIA.
02:01:28IT WILL BE A VERY BUSY WEEK FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP JUST WEEKS UNTIL
02:01:32THE MIDTERM ELECTIONS.
02:01:33HOST: A LOT OF MIDTERM DOMESTIC
02:01:36TRAVEL THERE FOR THE PRESIDENT, RAMPING UP BEFORE THE MIDTERM ELECTIONS.
02:01:40SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED OVER THE
02:01:42WEEKEND WAS A NEW DEVELOPMENT
02:01:45WITH THE UKRAINE WAR AND
02:01:47PRESIDENT TRUMP ANNOUNCING A
02:01:50PARTIAL ENERGY CEASE-FIRE.
02:01:51CAN YOU TALK TO US ABOUT WHAT
02:01:54HAPPENED AND HOW THE PRESIDENT GOT THERE? >> WELL, WE DON'T HAVE THE EXACT
02:01:57DETAILS OF HOW WE GOT THERE,
02:02:01LIKE PRESIDENT TRUMP GOT THERE. BUT WE DO KNOW THAT PRESIDENT
02:02:04TRUMP ANNOUNCED THE DEAL THIS
02:02:07WEEKEND AND WE KNOW THAT
02:02:10VLADIMIR PUTIN -- VOLODYMYR ZELENSKY, THE UKRAINIAN
02:02:14PRESIDENT, SPOKEN -- SPOKE ON IT.
02:02:17HE WELCOMED THE CEASE-FIRE ON ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH IS
02:02:20BASICALLY THAT UKRAINE CANNOT
02:02:27ATTACK ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE. ZELENSKY DID SAY TODAY THAT
02:02:30RUSSIA WAS STILL ATTACKING THOSE ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE SITES, SO
02:02:34HE IS NOT REALLY SURE IF THIS
02:02:37DEAL IS ACTUALLY GOING TO HAPPEN, THE CEASE-FIRE IS GOING
02:02:40TO HAPPEN, AND IF IT CONTINUES, HE SAYS THAT THEY WILL RESPOND.
02:02:44SO WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE
02:02:46IF RUSSIA REALLY ABIDES BY THIS
02:02:49NEW CEASE-FIRE AND WE ALSO WANT
02:02:52TO MENTION THAT THIS JUST COMES
02:02:54A FEW DAYS AFTER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP ANNOUNCED THAT HE
02:02:57IS BRINGING DIESEL FROM RUSSIA
02:03:00INTO THE UNITED STATES BECAUSE
02:03:04DIESEL FUEL COSTS ARE VERY EXPENSIVE RIGHT NOW AND HE IS
02:03:07LOOKING AT ALL OPTIONS TO BRING
02:03:09DOWN THE COST, INCLUDING HE IS ACTUALLY DOING THAT.
02:03:13HE IS GOING TO BE BRINGING THAT DIESEL FROM RUSSIA, WHICH HAS
02:03:17BROUGHT A LOT OF CRITICISM FROM
02:03:20EVEN REPUBLICANS HERE, SOME SENATORS SPEAKING OUT AGAINST
02:03:23THE PRESIDENT BECAUSE OF THAT. HOST: RIGHT. WE KNOW THAT IN THAT SANCTIONS
02:03:27BILL THAT CONGRESS PASSED JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO ON RUSSIA, IT SAID
02:03:31THAT IT WOULD LEVY TARIFFS
02:03:33AGAINST ANY NATION BUYING OIL,
02:03:36DIESEL OIL FROM RUSSIA. OBVIOUSLY THAT WOULD INCLUDE US.
02:03:40HAS THE PRESIDENT RESPONDED TO ANY OF THE REPUBLICANS PUSHING
02:03:44BACK AGAINST THIS DEAL THAT HE ANNOUNCED? OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT JUST
02:03:47RUSSIA -- IT'S NOT JUST
02:03:49REPUBLICANS THAT HAVE CRITICIZED HIM.
02:03:53THE UKRANIANS HAVE BEEN CRITICAL OF THIS DECISION THAT THEY SAY
02:03:55WOULD GIVE MORE MONEY TO RUSSIA,
02:03:57TO AID THEM IN THE WAR AGAINST UKRAINE.
02:04:01HOST: THE PRESIDENT SAYS THAT HE WANTS TO BRING DOWN COSTS AND HE
02:04:03SAYS THIS IS THE WAY TO DO IT.
02:04:06SO HE ALSO SOMETIMES DOES THINGS
02:04:09MAYBE TO BRING A DEAL AS WELL
02:04:11BETWEEN RUSSIA AND UKRAINE, SO THIS COULD BE A WAY OF HIM
02:04:15SAYING OK, WE WILL BE BUYING
02:04:20THOSE DIESEL FUEL AND THEN TRYING TO GET SOMETHING IN
02:04:24RETURN SO THEY CAN MAKE A PEACE DEAL WITH UKRAINE.
02:04:28BUT THAT'S ALL WE KNOW AT THE MOMENT ON THAT DEAL.
02:04:31HOST: AND LAST QUESTION FOR YOU, THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE IS
02:04:34INVESTIGATING MAJOR TV NETWORKS OVER SUSPENDING POOL COVERAGE OF
02:04:38PRESIDENT TRUMP. WHERE DOES THAT LAWSUIT AND
02:04:41COVERAGE CURRENTLY STAND? >> WHAT WE DO KNOW IS THAT THIS
02:04:44IS COMPLETELY SEPARATE FROM THE
02:04:46LITIGATION THAT IS ONGOING IN REGARDS TO THE THREE MEDIA
02:04:50OUTLETS THAT WERE BANNED, BUT WE DO KNOW THAT THEY'VE BEEN BACK
02:04:53ON CAMPUS AFTER A JUDGE RULED THAT THEY NEEDED TO BE BACK ON
02:04:58CAMPUS PENDING LITIGATION.
02:05:01BUT WHAT THIS DEALS WITH IS THE
02:05:05FIVE TV POOL OUTLETS THAT ARE IN
02:05:08THERE, WHICH IS ABC, CBS, FOX
02:05:12NEWS, CNN, AND NBC.
02:05:15AND WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT IS
02:05:16THAT THEY DECIDED TO BOYCOTT THE
02:05:20POOL WHEN CNN WAS BANNED FROM
02:05:23COMING INTO THE WHITE HOUSE CAMPUS.
02:05:27SO AT THIS MOMENT, THIS IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT LITIGATION
02:05:30IN TERMS OF THE INVESTIGATION,
02:05:32BUT AS OF NOW, NO CHARGES HAVE BEEN FILED.
02:05:35THIS IS IN REGARDS TO POTENTIAL
02:05:38ANTITRUST FEDERAL VIOLATIONS. THAT'S WHAT THE D.O.J. IS
02:05:42LOOKING INTO, BUT AS OF RIGHT
02:05:45NOW, NOTHING IN TERMS OF
02:05:47CRIMINAL CHARGES HAVE BEEN BROUGHT.
02:05:49HOST: ALL RIGHT, LEONARDO, WHITE HOUSE REPORTER WITH "NEWSWEEK," THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING WITH
02:05:53US THIS MORNING. >> ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. HOST: WE TURN BACK TO OPEN FORUM
02:05:56WHERE YOU CAN TALK ABOUT ANY PUBLIC POLICY OR POLITICAL ISSUE
02:05:59ON YOUR MIND. RONNY FROM FLORIDA, AN
02:06:03INDEPENDENT. GOOD MORNING, RONNY.
02:06:06ARE YOU ON THE LINE THERE?
02:06:11I WILL GIVE YOU ONE MORE CHANCE.
02:06:14ARE YOU ON THE LINE?
02:06:18ALL RIGHT.
02:06:20WILLARD FROM RICHMOND, VIRGINIA, AN INDEPENDENT.
02:06:22GOOD MORNING, WILLARD. CALLER: YES, GOOD MORNING.
02:06:26THANK YOU.
02:06:30FOR ANSWERING MY CALL. A COUPLE OF POINTS.
02:06:33NUMBER ONE, WE HAVE AN UNEDUCATED PUBLIC AND JEFFERSON
02:06:37ALWAYS SAID WE NEEDED AN EDUCATED PUBLIC TO HAVE A
02:06:40DEMOCRACY AND LISTENING TO A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO CALL IN,
02:06:44THEY ARE UNEDUCATED AND IN MANY
02:06:46CASES IGNORANT OF THEIR GOVERNMENT.
02:06:50IT'S VERY STRANGE. WE ALSO HAVE UNQUALIFIED PEOPLE
02:06:54RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. WE HAVE PEOPLE IN OFFICE WHO
02:06:58DON'T UNDERSTAND ABOUT OUR
02:07:02COUNTRY, AND I GET REALLY UPSET ABOUT THE FACT THAT THESE PEOPLE
02:07:05TALK ABOUT RELIGION AND THINGS.
02:07:08JOHN ADAMS HIMSELF SAID THAT
02:07:11RELIGION -- THAT THE UNITED STATES WAS NOT A CHRISTIAN
02:07:15COUNTRY, AND THAT RELIGION AND GOVERNMENT ARE SEPARATED.
02:07:18IN FACT, MOST OF OUR FOUNDING FATHERS WERE DEISTS.
02:07:23JOHN ADAMS WAS A LITTLE MORE TRADITIONAL, BUT JEFFERSON WAS A
02:07:27DEIST. MOST OF THE PEOPLE OF THE
02:07:29ENLIGHTENMENT WERE DEIST AND
02:07:32THEY BELIEVE IN GOD BUT THEY
02:07:33DON'T BELIEVE THAT YOU PRAYED
02:07:36UNTIL GOD HELPS YOU. THERE WAS A VALUES SYSTEM.
02:07:39I HAVE JEFFERSON'S BIBLE WHICH
02:07:42TOOK ALL OF THE DEITIES OUT OF
02:07:47PARTS OF THE NEW TESTAMENT.
02:07:50SO I JUST FEEL VERY UPSET, WE
02:07:53HAVE THIS UNEDUCATED PUBLIC THAT
02:07:58DOESN'T SEEM TO CARE.
02:08:01HOST: THAT'S WILLARD FROM RICHMOND, VIRGINIA, AN INDEPENDENT.
02:08:04PHILLIP FROM TEMPE, ARIZONA, A
02:08:08DEMOCRAT. GOOD MORNING, PHILLIP. CALLER: GOOD MORNING.
02:08:12HOST: IT'S OPEN FORUM. CALLER: YES. I WANT TO CALL IT FOR WHAT IT
02:08:16IS. IT'S ALL ABOUT WHITE SUPREMACISTS.
02:08:18THE WHITE PEOPLE ALREADY KNOW THAT THEY'RE IN THE MINORITY ADD
02:08:22THEY'RE DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH
02:08:25THIS I.C.E., IT'S NOT I.C.E.
02:08:29ANYMORE. IT'S THE PROUD BOYS. WE KNOW THAT.
02:08:33WE CAN GO BACK TO JANUARY 6 AND
02:08:36IT'S ABOUT THAT. HOST: MIKE FROM FLORIDA, AN
02:08:40INDEPENDENT.
02:08:44CALLER: YEAH, GOOD MORNING, JASMINE. HOW ARE YOU DOING? HOST: GOOD MORNING, MIKE.
02:08:48IT'S OPEN FORUM.
02:08:50CALLER: I AGREE WITH THE LAST
02:08:52CALLER BECAUSE THE WAY I.C.E. IS
02:08:58BEHAVING, LAW ENFORCEMENT DON'T BEHAVE THAT WAY.
02:09:01WE REALLY NEED TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON WITH I.C.E. WHERE THEY
02:09:05TAKE THESE PEOPLE BECAUSE A LOT
02:09:07OF FAMILY MEMBERS AREN'T ABLE TO
02:09:10GO AND VISIT, HAVE PHONE CALLS,
02:09:13EVEN SEE THE CONDITION WHERE
02:09:17THEIR FAMILY MEMBER IS BEING
02:09:18HELD, MUCH LESS HAVE A COURT
02:09:23DATE. WE HAVE TO CHANGE ALL THIS BECAUSE THIS IS REALLY UN-AMERICAN AND THE PRESIDENT
02:09:27SHOULD KNOW BETTER TO HAVE
02:09:30PEOPLE LIKE WHOEVER HE HAS IN
02:09:33HIS CABINET RUNNING AROUND DOING
02:09:36THINGS THAT MAKING THE COUNTRY
02:09:39SUFFER, MAKING THE PEOPLE SUFFER.
02:09:42IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
02:09:45HE IS BEHAVING AS IF HE DOESN'T LIKE AMERICA.
02:09:48HOST: THAT'S MIKE FROM FLORIDA. HELEN FROM NEW JERSEY, AN
02:09:52INDEPENDENT. GOOD MORNING, HELEN.
02:09:56HELEN, IT'S OPEN FORUM.
02:09:58CALLER: CAN YOU HEAR ME? HOST: I SURE CAN. GOOD MORNING.
02:10:01CALLER: YES, I AM CALLING BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A RESTORATION OF CHECKS AND
02:10:05BALANCES IN OUR GOVERNMENT. I DO NOT BELIEVE WE HAVE THAT
02:10:09RIGHT NOW.
02:10:10WE APPEAR TO HAVE A CONGRESS,
02:10:15REPUBLICANS IN THE CONGRESS -- I KNOW YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO VOTE WITH YOUR PARTY, BUT THEY DO
02:10:18SEEM TO BE RATHER TERRIFIED OF
02:10:20VOTING AGAINST TRUMP BECAUSE IT
02:10:23MIGHT ADVERSELY AFFECT THEIR
02:10:24CAREERS OR WHATEVER, AND HE DOES
02:10:27SEEM TO HAVE THE SUPREME COURT
02:10:30MORE OR LESS IN HIS POCKET.
02:10:32HE USES EXECUTIVE ORDERS VERY
02:10:37FREELY. NO OTHER PRESIDENT HAS DONE THAT.
02:10:41SO TO RESTORE CHECKS AND
02:10:43BALANCES, I AM AN INDEPENDENT,
02:10:45BUT I WOULD PROBABLY VOTE
02:10:50DEMOCRATIC BECAUSE -- THIS TERM BECAUSE THERE IS A CHANCE IF THE
02:10:52DEMOCRATS TAKE THE HOUSE, MAYBE
02:10:55THE SENATE AS WELL, THAT WE
02:10:57COULD HAVE SOME SEMBLANCE OF CHECKS AND BALANCES IN THE
02:11:00GOVERNMENT OR AT LEAST THE BEGINNING IN THAT DIRECTION. RIGHT NOW IT'S PRETTY MUCH UNDER
02:11:04THE CONTROL OF ONE PERSON. HOST: ALL RIGHT, THAT'S HELEN
02:11:08FROM NEW JERSEY, AN INDEPENDENT.
02:11:13SANISI FROM FLORIDA, AN INDEPENDENT. GOOD MORNING. CALLER: GOOD MORNING.
02:11:17I WOULD LIKE TO STATE THAT I WISH THAT PEOPLE STOPPED SAYING
02:11:20THAT WE ARE NOT A COUNTRY OF
02:11:26CHRISTIANS. WE NOT NECESSARILY JUST
02:11:27CHRISTIANS BUT WE ARE -- EVEN OUR DOLLAR BILLS SAY IN GOD WE
02:11:31TRUST AND I THINK WE NEED TO GO BACK TO TRUSTING AND NOT JUST
02:11:35RELY ON ONE MAN FOR ALL THE
02:11:37ANSWERS AND BASICALLY THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU.
02:11:40I ENJOY THE SHOW.
02:11:41HOST: ALL RIGHT.
02:11:44THAT'S SANTISI FROM FLORIDA.
02:11:49AN INDEPENDENT, GOOD MORNING, CAM. IT'S OPEN FORUM. CALLER: HI.
02:11:54I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT -- YOU
02:11:57STARTED OFF THIS SESSION TALKING
02:12:00ABOUT CONGRESSWOMAN OMAR AND I
02:12:02THINK IT IS TOTALLY, TOTALLY
02:12:06OUTRAGEOUS THAT THEY INVADED HER HOUSE.
02:12:08THIS IS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF
02:12:11YOU HAVE A PRESIDENT AND --
02:12:18THAT IS GOING AFTER OUR CONGRESSPEOPLE REGARDLESS OF
02:12:21WHAT YOU THINK OF THEIR PERM
02:12:23OPINION, WE HAVE ANOTHER BLACK
02:12:25CONGRESSWOMAN THAT IS LOOKING AT
02:12:29CHARGES FOR HAVING A SCUFFLE --
02:12:32HOST: FROM NEW JERSEY. CALLER: YES.
02:12:35THAT JUST HAD A BABY. STILL, THIS IS -- THIS IS TO LET
02:12:38YOU KNOW THAT EVEN AS -- YOU ARE
02:12:44A PROTESTER. THEY'RE COMING AFTER NOT ONE OF
02:12:47US, NOT A FEW OF US BUT ALL OF US.
02:12:49AND THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF WHAT FASCISM LOOKS LIKE NO
02:12:53MATTER WHAT YOU SAY. IF YOU READ HISTORY, THIS IS
02:12:56WHAT IS HAPPENING. YOU CAN'T HAVE A -- THEY'RE
02:13:00TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE BEING TERRORISTS THAT ARE RUNNING IN
02:13:03THIS COUNTRY. I AM SO DISGUSTED.
02:13:07YOU KNOW WHAT?
02:13:08WE NEED TO BE DISGUSTED WITH US
02:13:12THAT WE HAVE A COUNTRY THAT
02:13:16ALLOWS THIS KIND OF VISION, THIS KIND OF RACISM, THIS KIND OF
02:13:19BIGOTRY, THIS KIND OF WHITE
02:13:21SUPREMACY TO ENABLE THESE PEOPLE
02:13:24THAT ARE BILLIONAIRES AND TRILLIONAIRES AND IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY.
02:13:28THEY'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT US. THEY SHOW US THAT.
02:13:32HOST: THAT'S CAM FROM CALIFORNIA, AN INDEPENDENT.
02:13:36RUSSELL, A REPUBLICAN. GOOD MORNING, RUSSELL. CALLER: GOOD MORNING.
02:13:40MY VOICE IS KIND OF MESSED UP.
02:13:45WE WOULD NEED THE I.C.E. IF IT
02:13:48WEREN'T FOR OPEN BORDERS. THAT COCKROACH IS TO BLAME. THANK YOU.
02:13:51HAVE A GOOD DAY.
02:13:55HOST: ANNIE FROM TAMPA, A DEMOCRAT.
02:13:58GOOD MORNING, ANNIE. I DIDN'T CLICK.
02:14:01GOOD MORNING, ANNIE. START OVER. IT'S OPEN FORUM. CALLER: OK, GOOD MORNING.
02:14:05YES. THE WOMAN THAT WAS REFERRING TO
02:14:08TRUMP EARLIER, SHE'S ABSOLUTELY
02:14:10RIGHT ON.
02:14:13I JUST WANT TO HAVE REPUBLICANS JUST GRAB A PEN.
02:14:16IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
02:14:18IF THEY COULD JUST SEARCH THE
02:14:202023 BORDER SECURITY BILL.
02:14:23AND SEE THAT TRUMP HAD MARGERY
02:14:28TAYLOR GREENE AND KEVIN MCCARTHY KILL THAT BILL.
02:14:31THIS IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
02:14:33REPUBLICANS JUST CONTINUE TO BLAME BIDEN AND IT'S VERY, VERY
02:14:38SIMPLE RESEARCH.
02:14:40JUST SEARCH 2023 BORDER SECURITY
02:14:44BILL, BIPARTISAN, AND THEY CAN SEE THE TRUTH.
02:14:48REPUBLICANS PRETTY MUCH KNOW THIS, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO
02:14:51CONTINUE TO STAND BY THEIR
02:14:52RACISM AND STAND BY THE REASON
02:14:56TRUMP WON WAS BECAUSE HE WON ON
02:14:58THE BORDER AND HE WON ON RACISM.
02:15:03SO EXCUSE ME. I AM OUT OF BREATH.
02:15:06THE ISSUE WITH THE LIVE
02:15:08EXECUTION, THAT PUTS HEGSETH AND
02:15:11TRUMP IN THE EXACT SAME CATEGORY
02:15:13AS THE MOST FILTHY TERRORIST
02:15:16GROUPS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD.
02:15:20HOST: THAT'S ANNIE FROM TAMPA, A DEMOCRAT.
02:15:24COMING UP, NATIONAL JOURNAL'S HOTLINE EDITOR KIRK BADO JOINS
02:15:27US TO DISCUSS THE FINAL WEEKS BEFORE THE MIDTERM ELECTIONS AND
02:15:31HE WILL BREAK DOWN WHICH RACES
02:15:32HE IS CLOSELY WATCHING.
02:15:36♪
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02:15:54THEY'RE ALMOST PERFECTLY BALANCED.
02:15:5628% CONSERVATIVE, 27% LIBERAL OR
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02:16:02REPUBLICANS WATCHING DEMOCRATS, DEMOCRATS WATCHING REPUBLICANS,
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02:16:07BECAUSE C-SPAN VIEWERS WANT THE
02:16:10FACTS STRAIGHT FROM THE SOURCE,
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02:16:22THE STAKES COULDN'T BE HIGHER.
02:16:24EVERY CEASE IN THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES IS UP
02:16:27FOR GRABS, ALONG WITH 33 U.S.
02:16:30SENATE RACES AND THE OUTCOME OF BOAT COULD RESHAPE THE BALANCE
02:16:33OF POWER IN WASHINGTON. VOTERS WILL DECIDE 36
02:16:36GUBERNATORIAL CONTESTS. FROM THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL TO
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02:17:40>> "WASHINGTON JOURNAL" CONTINUES. HOST: ALL RIGHT. HERE TO DISCUSS KEY MIDTERM
02:17:43ELECTION RACES TO WATCH IS KIRK
02:17:46BADO, EDITOR OF THE NATIONAL JOURNAL'S POLITICAL NEWSLETTER HOTLINE.
02:17:50THANKS SO MUCH FOR BEING WITH US.
02:17:53GUEST: GREAT TO BE HERE.
02:17:56HOST: WHAT IS YOUR OVERALL ASSESSMENT OF THE RACE TO THE
02:17:59MIDTERMS JUST 22 DAYS -- GUEST: WHO IS COUNTING?
02:18:03WHAT'S THAT BETWEEN FRIENDS HERE? THE ASSESSMENT RIGHT NOW
02:18:07ESPECIALLY IN THE HOUSE IS NOT WHETHER OR NOT DEMOCRATS FLIP
02:18:09THE HOUSE BUT BY HOW MUCH. IN THE SENATE IT'S GROWN
02:18:13COMPETITIVE TO WHERE I WOULD SAY DEMOCRATS ARE THE SLIGHT FAVORITE.
02:18:16GOING IN AFTER LABOR DAY HERE
02:18:17WHEN THE GENERAL ELECTION SEASON
02:18:21STARTED, REPUBLICANS PLAYED ONE OF THEIR BIG TRUMP CARDS. THEY HAD A GREAT AD ADVANTAGE, A
02:18:25LOT OF CASH ON HAND. THEY LAUNCHED THIS GIANT AD BLITZ ACROSS THESE STATES TO TRY
02:18:29TO SALVAGE SOME OF THESE RACES
02:18:32AFTER POOR POLLING. NOW HERE WE ARE ABOUT 22 DAYS AWAY.
02:18:36ONE MONTH AWAY. REPUBLICANS ARE JUST TREADING
02:18:40WATER AT BEST IN SOME DEEP RED STATES.
02:18:43THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN SO REMARKABLE. THE BATTLE FOR THE HOUSE HAS
02:18:47SHIFTED OUT FROM THE SWING STATES INTO DEEPER REPUBLICAN TERRITORY.
02:18:50YOU CAN SEE THAT REPUBLICAN CONCERN BASED ON WHERE TRUMP
02:18:53WILL BE TRAVELING OVER THE NEXT FEW WEEKS TO TRY AND SHORE UP
02:18:57HIS CANDIDATES, PLACES LIKE OHIO, MONTANA, AREAS WHERE HE
02:19:01HAS NEVER STRUGGLED BUT NOW REPUBLICANS FIND THEMSELVES ON THEIR BACK FOOT.
02:19:05HOST: I WANT TO POINT TO SOMETHING YOU SAID WHICH IS THAT IN THE SENATE, DEMOCRATS SEEM TO
02:19:09BE SLIGHTLY FAVORED. GUEST: I WOULD SAY AT THIS
02:19:12POINT, AS WE SIT HERE, IF YOU
02:19:14LOOK AT THE POLLING, IF YOU LOOK
02:19:17AT THE AD ADVANTAGES DEMOCRATS MIGHT HAVE MORE THAN A PUNCHER'S CHANCE.
02:19:20I THINK REPUBLICANS ARE REALLY SCRAMBLING. THAT REALITY CAME INTO FOCUS
02:19:24OVER THE PAST WEEK. YOU SAW THE BIG REPUBLICAN
02:19:28ALIGNED GROUPS, GROUPS IN NORTH
02:19:29CAROLINA START WAVING THE WHITE FLAG ON WHATLEY.
02:19:33THE DEMOCRATIC ALIGNED SUPER P.A.C. SAID THEY'LL STOP
02:19:37ADVERTISING IN NORTH CAROLINA AND ALLOCATE RESOURCES IN PLACES
02:19:40LIKE OHIO AND IN IOWA.
02:19:42IF YOU LOOK AT KANSAS, TO THE
02:19:45POINT WHERE ADAM HALL I WILL -- HAMILTON IS LEADING MOST OF THE
02:19:49POLLING THERE. IN KANSAS, DEEP RED KANSAS, THEY
02:19:52HAVEN'T HAD A DEMOCRATIC SENATOR SINCE 1932, SINCE THE HOOVER
02:19:56ADMINISTRATION AND THAT IS NOW FIRMLY ON THE BATTLEFIELD.
02:19:59HOST: I MEAN, JUST FOR FOLKS TO RECOGNIZE, I AM SURE ALL OF OUR
02:20:03C-SPAN FANS ALREADY KNOW THIS,
02:20:05BUT JUST THREE MONTHS AGO, DEMOCRATS DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A
02:20:08HOPE AND A WISH FOR THE SENATE. NOW YOU ARE SAYING THEY'RE FAVORED. I WANT TO GO TO SOMETHING THAT
02:20:12YOU WROTE EARLIER, THE HEADLINE
02:20:15IS WHAT COULD GO WRONG FOR DEMOCRATS?
02:20:19DEMOCRATS ARE FAVORED TO WIN AT LEAST THE HOUSE BACK. PICK UP MUCH NEEDED SEATS IN THE
02:20:22SENATE. WHAT COULD GO WRONG FOR THEM? GUEST: WHAT I WROTE AT THE TIME
02:20:26WAS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE A MASSIVE POLLING MISS HERE.
02:20:29ONE OF TRUMP'S SUPERPOWERS, THE REASON WHY HE HAS WON TWO OF THE
02:20:32LAST THREE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS IS HE HAS THIS INCREDIBLE ABILITY TO ACTIVATE
02:20:36LOW PROPENSITY VOTERS. TRUMP HAS RESHAPED THE ELECTORATE TO WHERE DEMOCRATS
02:20:40USED TO BE FAVORED IN THESE LOW TURNOUT -- THESE PRESIDENTIAL
02:20:44ELECTIONS. REPUBLICANS WERE FAVORED IN THE
02:20:46LOWER TURNOUT MIDTERM LEBSES. THAT'S TO LONGER THE CASE.
02:20:51TRUMP HAS THIS ABILITY TO TURN OUT VOTERS WHO AREN'T CAPTURED
02:20:54IN POLLS, WHO DON'T TRUST THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA.
02:20:57WHO DON'T NORMALLY PARTICIPATE IN POLITICS. YOU SAW THAT REALLY APPARENT IN
02:21:00THE LAST PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. MY THEORY OF THE CASE WAS THAT
02:21:03THESE POLLSTERS ESPECIALLY IN THESE MORE RURAL AREAS BECAUSE
02:21:06AS WE WERE SAYING, THE BATTLE FOR THE SENATE, BATTLE FOR THE
02:21:09HOUSE HAS SHIFTED INTO MUCH MORE RURAL AREAS OF THE COUNTRY,
02:21:13IOWA, KANSAS, AND A LOT OF THOSE PRO-TRUMP VOTERS MIGHT BE MORE
02:21:17RELUCTANT TO ANSWER A POLLSTER HERE. BUT WHAT WE ARE SEEING HERE IN
02:21:20POLL AFTER POLL HERE IS THAT DEMOCRATS ARE JUST REALLY FIRED
02:21:24UP, AND REPUBLICANS EVEN WHEN THEY GET TO TALK TO THEM ARE NOT
02:21:28REALLY MOTIVATED TO GO OUT TO VOTE. I THINK IT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THE ECONOMY.
02:21:31THIS IS THE FIRST ELECTION IN
02:21:33THE TRUMP EAR A WHERE VOTERS
02:21:36EXPECT SHA -- EXPECT SHRUG THEIR SHOULDERS AND SAY AT LEAST HE IS
02:21:39GOOD ON THE ECONOMY BECAUSE HE HASN'T BEEN GOOD ON THE ECONOMY IN THE EYES OF THE VOTERS.
02:21:43HOST: SO LESS THAN A MONTH TO GO. LET'S ESTABLISH A PLAYING FIELDS.
02:21:46WHICH ARE THE RACE THAT YOU ARE KEEPING A CLOSE EYE ON?
02:21:50GUEST: IF YOU WOULD ASKED ME A FEW MONTHS AGO IT WOULD HAVE
02:21:53BEEN THE TRADITIONAL SWING SEATS.
02:21:57WE WILL BE LOOKING AT MICHIGAN,
02:21:59MAINE, IOWA, KANSAS AND EVERYONE AND THEIR MOTHER WILL BE LOOKING
02:22:03AT THE TEXAS RACE AS WELL. HOST: ARE THERE ANY PLACES IN
02:22:07THAT LIST OF EXPANDED MAP, PLACES THAT DEMOCRATS DID NOT
02:22:10THINK THAT THEY WOULD BE PLAYING IN JUST THREE MONTHS AGO THAT
02:22:13YOU THINK THE REPUBLICANS CAN STILL EKE OUT A WIN?
02:22:17GUEST: I THINK KANSAS IS PROBABLY THE BEST EXAMPLE OF THAT. THAT'S ONE THAT'S COME ONLINE IN
02:22:21THE LAST THREE MONTHS OR SO HERE.
02:22:23HAMILTON IS A PASTOR IN THE JOHNSON COUNTY AREA, THE BLUEST
02:22:28PART OF THE STATE OUTSIDE OF KANSAS CITY.
02:22:31ROGER MARSHALL HAS NEVER BEEN IN
02:22:33A REAL COMPETITIVE RACE.
02:22:36JERRY MORAN WON THAT RACE BY 22 POINTS FOUR YEARS AGO WHEN HE
02:22:39WAS UP FOR RE-ELECTION. BUT NOW IT'S GOTTEN MORE
02:22:43COMPETITIVE BECAUSE MARSHALL HAS BEEN CAUGHT SLEEPING HERE.
02:22:45THAT'S AN AREA OF THE COUNTRY, THOSE RURAL AREAS LIKE KANSAS,
02:22:49IOWA, WHERE THE TARIFFS ESPECIALLY HAVE REALLY HIT VOTERS HARD.
02:22:52THE WAR IN IRAN WHICH HAS RAISED FUEL PRICES NOT ONLY FOR
02:22:56TRADITIONAL GASOLINE BUT ALSO DIESEL HAVE REALLY HIT THE FARMERS THERE.
02:23:00THAT'S AN AREA WHERE THE BACKLASH TO REPUBLICANS IS GROWING.
02:23:04AGAIN IT'S HARD FOR ME TO WRAP MY BRAIN AROUND KANSAS ELECTING
02:23:07A DEMOCRATIC SENATOR FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE 1932.
02:23:11HOST: RIGHT, SINCE IT IS SUCH A DEEP RED REPUBLICAN STRONGHOLD.
02:23:14I WANT TO INVITE OUR CALLERS TO
02:23:16JOIN IN ON THE CONVERSATION AND
02:23:18GET ON THE LINE AND PEPPER KIRK WITH ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS.
02:23:22I WILL REPEAT YOUR PHONE LINES.
02:23:25REPUBLICANS, YOUR LINE IS 202-748-8001.
02:23:29DEMOCRATS, YOUR LINE -- 202-748-8000.
02:23:32INDEPENDENTS, YOUR LINE -- 202-748-8002.
02:23:35YOU CAN ALSO REACH US BY TEXT
02:23:37MESSAGE OR ON SOCIAL MEDIA. KIRK IS HERE TO ANSWER ALL OF
02:23:41YOUR MIDTERM QUANDARIES SO START
02:23:45CALLING IN NOW. WE TALKED ABOUT WHERE THE PRESIDENT IS EXPECTED TO GO OVER THE LAST WEEK.
02:23:49WE HEARD TODAY HE WILL BE IN OHIO FOR JON HUSTED.
02:23:52TOMORROW HE WILL BE IN ALASKA
02:23:54FOR ONE OF THE DAN SULLIVANS.
02:23:58[LAUGHTER] GUEST: SENATOR DAN SULLIVAN.
02:24:02HOST: WE EXPECT TO SEE HIM IN MONTANA. HE IS PERHAPS GOING -- HE SAYS
02:24:05HE WANTS TO GO TO MICHIGAN, TO MAINE.
02:24:08REPUBLICANS FEEL THAT THE PRESIDENT IN A LOT OF THESE
02:24:11PLACES IS THEIR BEST WEAPON TO ENERGIZE THE BASE.
02:24:14HOW DO YOU SEE THAT GOING? GUEST: I THINK IT GOES BACK TO
02:24:18THE PLAN FROM THE MIDTERM CONVENTION.
02:24:20THE MIDTERM CONVENTION THEY HELD IN DALLAS IN AUGUST WAS NOT ABOUT PERSUASION.
02:24:24IT WAS ABOUT JUICE AND TURNOUT.
02:24:27TRADITIONALLY A NARYT POWER --
02:24:30PARTY IN POWER THEIR BASE IS NOT
02:24:33MOMENT -- MOTIVATED TO GO OUT IN POLLS. PRESIDENT TRUMP IS THE BIGGEST
02:24:36MOATS VAITOR. DEMOCRATS IN POLL AFTER POLL
02:24:39HAVE SHOWN THEY ARE MUCH MORE WILLING TO VOTE.
02:24:41THERE WAS A PEW RESEARCH SURVEY
02:24:44THAT SHOWED THE DEMOCRATIC
02:24:46LEANING VOTERS HAVE A 20% GAP ON
02:24:49ENTHUSIASM OVER REPUBLICANS. THIS IS BIGGER THAN IT WAS IN 2018.
02:24:52SO IT'S REALLY EVIDENT FROM WHERE TRUMP IS CAMPAIGNING.
02:24:55YOU MENTIONED OHIO, MONTANA. HE WAS AT TENNESSEE.
02:24:59HE HAS BEEN TO TEXAS THREE TIMES SINCE THAT MIDTERM CONVENTION.
02:25:03HOST: LIKELY WILL BE BACK. GUEST: THESE ARE DEEP RED AREAS OF THE COUNTRY WHERE THE
02:25:06PRESIDENT IS CONCERNED THAT HIS VOTERS AREN'T READY TO TURN OUT.
02:25:10THAT COULD REALLY CAUSE A REAL CATASTROPHE FOR THE REPUBLICANS
02:25:13IF THEY DON'T TURN OUT.
02:25:14HOST: ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT IS
02:25:17WEIGHING PROBABLY MOST HEAVILY
02:25:20IS THE IRAN WAR AND ECONOMIC CONSEQUENCES THAT HAVE COME FROM
02:25:23THAT FOR THE PRESIDENT. HE TRUTH SOCIALED EARLIER THIS
02:25:27WEEK TRYING TO TAMP DOWN ON THE SPECULATION, AND HE SAYS WE WILL
02:25:30NOT BE ATTACKING IRAN AT ANY
02:25:33TIME PRIOR TO THE MIDTERM
02:25:35ELECTIONS TO BE HELD IN THE
02:25:37UNITED STATES ON NOVEMBER 3.
02:25:40WHAT IS YOUR ASSESSMENT HERE? WHY DID THE PRESIDENT FEEL THE
02:25:44NEED TO SAY THAT? DOES THAT SAVE THE G.O.P.?
02:25:47GUEST: THERE WERE REPORTS HE WAS PLANNING A MAJOR ATTACK ON IRAN
02:25:51BEFORE THE MIDTERMS. WITH TRUMP HE NEVER DOES ANYTHING SUBTLE.
02:25:54HIS I AM NOT GOING TO ATTACK
02:25:57IRAN T-SHIRT IS ANSWERING QUESTIONS.
02:25:59I THINK IT'S TO TRY TO ASSUAGE
02:26:02OIL MARKETS HERE THAT AT LEAST
02:26:05FOR NOW AS WE SIT HERE 22 DAYS
02:26:07OUT THAT THERE WILL BE SOME STEADY SUPPLY CHAIN, THERE WON'T
02:26:10BE ANY MORE SURPRISE ATTACKS. BUT THIS IS KIND OF PART AND
02:26:13PARCEL WHERE TRUMP IS THROWING HAIL MARY AFTER HAIL MARY RIGHT NOW.
02:26:17I THINK THIS PAST WEEK ESPECIALLY AMONG THE REPUBLICAN
02:26:20STRATEGISTS I HAVE BEEN SPEAKING TO, THE REALITY HAS SET IN THAT
02:26:24THEY'RE IN A LOT OF TROUBLE RIGHT NOW AND THAT THE BEST THING THEY CAN DO IS STOP THE
02:26:28BLEEDING. HOST: TALKING ABOUT STOPPING THE
02:26:31BLEEDING, THE REPUBLICANS EARLIER THIS WEEK ANNOUNCED THEY
02:26:33WERE PUTTING $A MILLION -- $5
02:26:37MILLION INTO SOUTH CAROLINA WHEN IT COMES TO THE GENERAL ELECTION
02:26:40BECAUSE IT IS SUCH A STRONGHOLDS FOR THE REPUBLICANS. THAT DEBATE TOOK PLACE LAST
02:26:44NIGHT, PRETTY FIERY. WHAT WERE YOUR TAKEAWAYS?
02:26:47GUEST: REPUBLICANS REALLY HAVE A CANDIDATE ISSUE THERE.
02:26:49YOU SAW IT REALLY APPARENT IN
02:26:53THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY FOR THAT SPECIAL ELECTION SEAT, DARLINE
02:26:56GRAHAM, SISTER OF THE LATE SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM.
02:27:00SHE'S NOT SOUGHT AFTER PUBLIC OFFICE BEFORE. SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE MORE OF A
02:27:04CARETAKER FOR THIS SEAT. TRUMP AND OTHER REPUBLICANS SAID
02:27:07YOU SHOULD BE THE PER NENT SENATOR. SHE DECIDED TO RUN FOR IT.
02:27:11LOOK, IT'S A BIG ASK TO BE PUT
02:27:13OUT LIKE THIS, ESPECIALLY IN A COMPETITIVE SENATE RACE THAT IS
02:27:17GETTING INCREASINGLY COMPETITIVE ALL THE TIME. SHE'S SOMEONE WHO SUSPECT
02:27:20NECESSARILY AS POLISHED ON THE
02:27:23DEBATE STAGE, NOT AS POLISHED IN
02:27:25HER INTERACTIONS, THE RETAIL POLITICS THAT ARE SO IMPORTANT
02:27:29IN A PLACE LIKE SOUTH CAROLINA. I THINK THAT CANDIDATE QUALITY
02:27:32ISSUE IS CAUSING REPUBLICANS TO RE-EVALUATE THEIR SPENDING.
02:27:36THAT'S KIND OF BEEN THE STORY OF REPUBLICANS IN THE SENATE MAP
02:27:39THROUGHOUT THE CYCLE, CANDIDATE QUALITY ISSUES MAKING THEM WRITE A CHECK.
02:27:43LOOK NO FURTHER THAN TEXAS WHERE KEN PAXTON'S NOMINATION HAS COST
02:27:47THE REPUBLICANS ABOUT $200 MILLION TRYING TO BAIL HIM OUT. HOST: THAT WAS WHERE I WAS GOING
02:27:51TO ASK YOU NEXT BEFORE WE TURN TO PHONE CALLS. STAY WITH US.
02:27:54KEN PAXTON IS RUNNING AGAINST DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE JAMES TALARICO.
02:27:58HE WAS UP 6 PERCENTAGE POINTS
02:28:03IN ONE OF THE SURVEYS. GUEST: I THINK JAMES TALARICO IS
02:28:06THE SLIGHT FAVORITE THERE. I HAVE A LOT OF FLASH BACKS FROM
02:28:10WHEN WAYS A HOUSE REPORTER COVERING THE DEMOCRATIC PUSH
02:28:14AFTER ORR ROWRK'S OVERPERFORMANCE IN 23013.
02:28:17DEMOCRATS THOUGHT THEY WOULD FLIP FIVE, SEVEN HOUSE SEATS IN
02:28:20TEXAS AND THEY WON'T OH-FER THERE. I THINK THIS ONE IS A UNIQUE
02:28:24COMBINATION OF A FAVORABLE NATIONAL POLITICAL ENVIRONMENT
02:28:26WHERE THE WINDS ARE AT THEIR BACK.
02:28:29THE VIEWS OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND THE PRESIDENT ARE LOW
02:28:32FOR VOTERS, COMBINED WITH A
02:28:34REALLY KIND OF TOXIC CANDIDATE
02:28:36IN KEN PAXTON, WHO HAS LADEN
02:28:40WITH PERM AND PROFESSIONAL ISSUES AND HE IS NOT A GOOD
02:28:44CAMPAIGNER. HE DOESN'T RAISE MONEY. HE DOESN'T HIT THE STUMP VERY WELL.
02:28:47HE REFUSES -- HASN'T DEBATED
02:28:49JAMES TALARICO AT ALL, DIDN'T
02:28:51DEBATE JOHN CORE ANYONE -- CORNYN EITHER. THIS IS A REPUBLICAN MESS
02:28:54COMPLETELY OF THE PRESIDENT'S MAKING. THIS IS A $200 MILLION CHECK
02:28:58THAT THEY DID NOT THINK ABOUT HAVING TO WRITE WHEN THE CYCLE
02:29:01FIRST STARTED TWO YEARS AGO. HOST: I HEAR YOU ON KEN PAXTON.
02:29:05I THINK REPUBLICANS WRIT LARGE GRIT THEIR TEETH WHEN THE PRESIDENT MADE THE DECISION TO
02:29:09ENDORSE KEN PAXTON OVER JOHN
02:29:12KOARNEN -- CORNYN. JOHN CORNYN HASN'T BEEN
02:29:16PARTICULARLY HELPFUL TO THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE AT THIS MOMENT.
02:29:20BUT ALSO TALARICO IS HAVING HIS OWN SORT OF SCANDAL RIGHT NOW
02:29:23AFTER HIS 12-DAY ABSENCE, I AM
02:29:26LOOKING AT A CNN ARTICLE. IT SAYS TALARICO'S 12-DAY
02:29:29ABSENCE FROM THE TRAIL BECOMES
02:29:31FODDER FOR G.O.P. IN TEXAS SENATE RACE.
02:29:35HE SAID THAT HE HAD THE FLU, BUT
02:29:37HOW DOES HIS ABSENCE AND THE RUMORS THAT HAVE SURROUNDED
02:29:41ABOUT ABSENCE AND THE
02:29:42RUMORS THAT NOW SURROUND ABOUT
02:29:46WHERE HE WAS, EVEN THOUGH HIS CAMPAIGN HAS THAT HE HAD THE
02:29:47FLU, HOW DOES HIS ABSENCE
02:29:52IMPACT HIS CAMPAIGN? GUEST: THERE ARE A LOT OF
02:29:55CONSPIRACY THEORIES FROM MAGA,
02:29:57SOCIAL MEDIA LEADERS.
02:30:00IN ORDER FOR A DEMOCRAT TO WIN TEXAS, YOU REALLY DO NEED TO PITCH A PERFECT CANDIDATE.
02:30:06EVERYTHING HAS BEEN WORKING HIS WAY SO FAR. HE'S GOT THE FUNDRAISING ADVANTAGE.
02:30:10HE'S GOT THE OPPONENT HE WOULD WANT. NOW I THINK HE NEEDS TO GO OUT
02:30:14AND DO, IF I WORK JAMES TALARICO, I WOULD DO A BIG
02:30:19BARNSTORMING EFFORT ALL OVER TEXAS, BE AS PUBLIC AS POSSIBLE,
02:30:23BE OUT THERE, DEMANDED TO BECOME
02:30:24DO EVERY TV INTERVIEW, DO EVERY
02:30:29STATE FAIR, HAVE PICTURES OF HIM
02:30:34WRITING EVERY RIDE AT THE TEXAS STATE FAIR RIGHT NOW.
02:30:38HOST: THIS IS PART OF THE
02:30:41PROBLEM, PEOPLE FELT LIKE TALARICO'S CAMPAIGN WAS NOT AS
02:30:45TRANSPARENT ON WHERE HE WAS IN HIS SICKNESS AS THEY HAD PERHAPS HOPED HIM TO BE, ESPECIALLY
02:30:50AFTER THE MITCH MCCONNELL OF IT
02:30:56ALL. HOW MUCH OF THIS IS AN ISSUE?
02:31:02GUEST:GUEST: I THINK IT IS AN INCREASING CONVERSATION COULD WE GO BACK TO MAYBE EVEN PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS IN THE
02:31:06PASSED, ABOUT FORMER VICE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES BEING MORE OPEN ABOUT SOME OF THEIR
02:31:09MENTAL HEALTH STRUGGLES, AND FOLKS STRUGGLING TO SQUARE THEM.
02:31:13IF YOU LOOK AT SOMEONE LIKE JOHN FETTERMAN, WHO A FEW YEARS AGO
02:31:17WAS TAKING A LOT OF SCRUTINY FOR HOW HE WAS RECOVERING FROM A
02:31:20STROKE DURING HIS SENATE RACE, TOO.
02:31:24I THINK THERE'S A TASTE IN
02:31:25DEMOCRATS' MOUTH WITH A LITTLE
02:31:30BUYER'S REMORSE. ONE OF THE THINGS WE SEEN THROUGHOUT THIS CYCLE IS INCREASED SCRUTINY ON
02:31:34CANDIDATES. YOU HAVE A 14-POINT LOSS THIS
02:31:41CYCLE. ESPECIALLY IN THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE, WHERE AGE WAS THE ISSUE, RIGHT? THINK ABOUT REPRESENTATIVE
02:31:45LARSEN OF IN CONNECTICUT, WHO
02:31:47THE DEMOCRAT WHO BEAT HIM THERE
02:31:51WAS RUNNING A CHANGE PLATFORM,
02:31:52SAME IN DENVER, COLORADO.
02:31:57THE POLICIES ARE THE SAME COMMIT JUST HOW EFFICIENT YOU
02:31:59CAN BE WHEN YOU ARE 70 YEARS OLD, 80 YEARS OLD.
02:32:02I THINK THAT WILL PLAY OUT IN 2028 AS WELL, ESPECIALLY IN THE
02:32:05DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY.
02:32:06HOST: LET'S GET TO SOME CALLS, PAUL IN MASSACHUSETTS.
02:32:10GOOD MORNING. CALLER: GOOD MORNING.
02:32:13AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. ONE OF THE WAY THINGS ABOUT THIS
02:32:18ELECTION, WE TALK ABOUT THE DEMOCRATS ARE GOING TO IMPROVE THE ECONOMY.
02:32:20ANYBODY THAT THINKS THE DEMOCRATS WILL IMPROVE THE
02:32:24ECONOMY HAVE ROCKS IN THEIR HEAD. THERE'S NOTHING ABOUT THE
02:32:27DEMOCRATIC PARTY THAT SUGGESTS THAT THEY CAN DO ANYTHING TO
02:32:31IMPROVE THE ECONOMY, AND THAT IS
02:32:35THE ISSUE IN THE POLITICS RIGHT NOW. GUEST: I THINK PAUL KIND OF HIT
02:32:38ON THE HEAD THERE, WHAT, HOW
02:32:42CRAZY THIS CYCLE HAS BEEN, WHEN
02:32:47REPUBLICANS USUALLY PULL MUCH MORE STRONGLY ON THE ECONOMY.
02:32:50WHEN YOU ASK WHICH PARTY DO
02:32:53TRUST ON THE ECONOMY, REPUBLICANS HAVE WON FOR MANY YEARS.
02:32:56WHEN YOU LOOK AT GALLUP, PEW, WHEN VOTERS ARE ASKED, WHO DO
02:33:00YOU TRUST ON THE ECONOMY, DEMOCRATS COME IF THEY DON'T
02:33:04HAVE A SLIGHT EDGE, OR AT LEAST MUCH MORE COMPETITIVE THAN THEY
02:33:08WERE IN PREVIOUS ITERATIONS OF THE POLL.
02:33:12ANTRON HAS DONE A LOT OF THAT, WHETHER IT IS THE WAR IN IRAN,
02:33:14FUEL PRICES, VOTERS ARE FEELING A LOT OF STRESS THAT WE ARE
02:33:18STILL SEEING WITH REPUBLICANS ON THE ECONOMY. THEY ARE NOT NECESSARILY SAYING
02:33:22THEY THINK THE DEMOCRATS HAVE A
02:33:25PLAN TO GET US OUT OF THIS
02:33:28TOUGHER ECONOMIC OUTLOOK RIGHT NOW, BUT THEY KNOW REPUBLICANS, WHEN THEY HAVE KEYS TO THE CAR,
02:33:32THEY ARE SORTING ALL OVER THE ROAD. HOST: PEARL FROM WASHINGTON, A DEMOCRAT.
02:33:38-- EARL FROM WASHINGTON, A DEMOCRAT.
02:33:42CALLER: WHAT I'M WONDERING IS,
02:33:44WITH ALL OF THE HATE, WITH ALL
02:33:48OF THE NEGATIVITY THAT IS GOING
02:33:50ON IN THE PUBLIC ARENA TO DATE,
02:33:55LOOK WHAT HE'S DOING WITH
02:33:57HOMELAND SECURITY, WITH ALL OF
02:34:01THE INDICATORS THAT THE COUNTRY
02:34:02IS GOING OFF THE RAILS, HOW DO
02:34:07REPUBLICANS JUSTIFY ANY EFFORT
02:34:14TO? HELP THIS GUY?
02:34:15GUEST: I THINK THAT IS A
02:34:19QUESTION REPUBLICANS ARE STRUGGLING WITH RIGHT NOW. HOW MUCH TO RUN WITH THE
02:34:22PRESIDENT VERSUS HOW MUCH TO PUT DAYLIGHT BETWEEN THEM RIGHT NOW.
02:34:25THE PEW RESEARCH CENTER HAVE THEIR NATIONAL SURVEY OUT THIS WEEK THAT SHOWS TRUMP AT THE
02:34:30LOWEST APPROVAL RATING AT HIS SECOND TERM.
02:34:34I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED IF WE GET BELOW THAT 30% MARK AS WELL.
02:34:38THE PRESIDENT IS INCREDIBLY UNPOPULAR, AND VOTERS WANT A CHANGE.
02:34:41MIDTERM ELECTIONS YEARS, THE
02:34:44REFERENDUM ON THE PODIUM POWER. THIS ELECTION A PARTICULAR IS A
02:34:47REFERENDUM ON THE MAN IN POWER,
02:34:48AND VOTERS ARE UPSET WITH TRUMP.
02:34:52HOST: FRANK, AN INDEPENDENT. GOOD MORNING. CALLER: GOOD MORNING.
02:34:58SO, YOUR TONE, SIR, SEEMS TO
02:35:04BE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THAT, YOU KNOW, DEMOCRATS ARE DOING
02:35:08PRETTY GOOD IN THE POLLING.
02:35:09YOU KNOW, I DON'T EVEN TRUST THE
02:35:13POLLING ANYMORE.
02:35:17WE SAW BACK IN 2016, NOBODY
02:35:19THOUGHT TRUMP WOULD WIN, AND HE DID.
02:35:23I VOTED THE FIRST TIME IN THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION IN 1976,
02:35:26SO I HAVE BEEN AROUND A WHILE. [LAUGHS]
02:35:31AND I THINK IT IS ONE OF THE MOST COMFORT GATED TIMES WE ARE LIVING IN RIGHT NOW, FOR A
02:35:35COUPLE OF REASONS, IF I MAY.
02:35:37SO YOU HAVE HAD, YOU KNOW, 10
02:35:40YEARS OF AUTHORITATIVE TRUNK,
02:35:45TOUGH GUY, RIGHT WING STEPH COMMANDED'S ALL OVER THE WORLD, REALLY.
02:35:48I JUST READ ABOUT IN GERMANY,
02:35:53INCIDENTS OF AUTHORITATIVE THINGS.
02:35:56ONE OF THE OTHER COMPONENTS THAT IS HAPPENING TODAY THAT WAS NEVER THERE IS A I. THAT IS HUGE.
02:36:02AND YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE LIKE ELON
02:36:04MUSK AND PETER THIEL, WHO I
02:36:08HAVE NO TRUST IN THEM WHATSOEVER FOR WHAT THEY CAN DO IS BEYOND IMAGINATION.
02:36:12THEN YOU'VE GOT THE MIDDLE EAST SITUATION, WHICH IS VERY
02:36:16STRANGE, BECAUSE TRADITIONALLY,
02:36:20THE DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN VERY PRO-ISRAEL, AND NOW NOT SO MUCH SOAP DID IN FACT, I'VE BEEN
02:36:23READING SO MANY
02:36:29REPUBLICAN-BASED, FOX NEWS STUFF
02:36:30WHERE REPUBLICANS SEEM TO BE SO PRO ISRAEL, WHICH IS TO BE
02:36:34ALMOST LIKE A JOKE IN A WAY.
02:36:40, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER THAT PRO ISRAEL.
02:36:42HOST: ALL RIGHT, I WILL SEE IF
02:36:47YOU CAN GET YOUR QUESTION AND FOR KIRK.
02:36:48CALLER: WELL, MY QUESTION IS
02:36:52COME ALL THIS RESEARCH THE GOVERNMENT HAS DONE, AND HE IS
02:36:55SAYING THE POLL IS INDICATING DEMOCRATS. BUT I DON'T KNOW, I THINK THE
02:36:59PUBLIC -- MY QUESTION IS, I THINK THE PUBLIC IS SO CONFUSED,
02:37:01AND I'M WONDERING IF WE, YOU
02:37:03KNOW, CAN HAVE ANY STAKE IN ANY
02:37:06KIND OF -- FAITH IN ANY KIND OF
02:37:12POLLS.
02:37:13GUEST: FAITH IN THE POLLS HAS
02:37:17BEEN A MAJOR QUESTION EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN COVERING POLITICS, 10 YEARS AGO NOW.
02:37:21I THINK WHAT WE ARE SEEING IT AS
02:37:24IT IS SO DIFFICULT TO MODEL A
02:37:27PRESIDENT OR OUTCOME WITH TRUMP ON THE BALLOT, BECAUSE HE ACTIVATES VOTERS THAT ARE NOT IN
02:37:32THE TRADITIONAL POLLING MET HERE. WHAT I LIKE TO SEE WHAT I'M
02:37:34LOOKING AT HOLES HERE IS ONLY
02:37:36CERTAIN ONES ARE, CNN, PEW
02:37:44RESEARCH, THE BIPARTISAN FOX NEWS POLL, THE AARP POLL, THE
02:37:47NBC POLLING, THE BIPARTISAN ONE.
02:37:49AND I THINK THOSE HAVE UPDATED THEIR METHODOLOGY TO CAPTURE
02:37:52THIS ELECTORATE HERE A LOT BETTER. YOU HAVE A LOT OF JUNK POLLS OUT
02:37:57HERE THAT ARE A DIME A DOZEN, WHICH WE DON'T REALLY PAY MUCH
02:38:00ATTENTION TO OVER AT "HOTLINE,"
02:38:02BUT ALL OF THESE GOLDSTAR POSTERS ARE POINTING AT THE SAME
02:38:05DIRECTION RIGHT NOW, AND THAT IS
02:38:09DEMOCRATS. IN MY SAYING THERE'S NOT ANY ERROR? OF COURSE THERE IS.
02:38:13BUT I DON'T THING THE MAGNITUDE WILL BE ON A 2016 LEVELS, FOR A
02:38:17NUMBER OF FACTORS. HOST: I WANT TO POINT TO, SINCE
02:38:22WE WERE TALKING ABOUT TEXAS, FOR A DEMOCRAT TO WIN IN TEXAS, TEXAS HAS TO BECOME NEW JERSEY.
02:38:27NOT HAPPENING ANYTIME SOON.
02:38:30BUT THIS RACE IS CAUSING ANXIETY FOR REPUBLICANS. HOW MUCH ANXIETY?
02:38:33GUEST: IT ABSOLUTELY IS. THEY ARE INVESTING OVER $200
02:38:37MILLION IN THIS RACE, NOT BECAUSE THEY DON'T THINK IT WILL BE COMPETITIVE.
02:38:41YOU DON'T PUT ALMOST A QUARTER BILLION DOLLARS INTO A RATE
02:38:45BECAUSE YOU THINK IT IS SAFE AND SOUND.
02:38:48IT'S INTERESTING, COMPARING THAT TO NEW JERSEY, BECAUSE NEW JERSEY AT THE PRESIDENTIAL LEVEL
02:38:51IN 2024, SAW ONE OF THE BIGGEST
02:38:55WINGS TOWARD TRUMP AT THE PRESIDENTIAL LEVEL.
02:38:57THAT WAS IN PART BECAUSE OF THE LARGE HISPANIC POPULATION IN NEW JERSEY.
02:39:01THAT WAS THE EXTREME VOTERS IN THAT ELECTION. YOU SAW THE SAME TYPE OF DRUGS
02:39:04OVER IN TEXAS AS WELL, ESPECIALLY IN SOUTHERN TEXAS,
02:39:08THE LAREDO AREA, THE RIO GRANDE VALLEY OVER THERE.
02:39:13BUT WHAT WE ARE SEEING RIGHT NOW IS SURVEYS AND REPORTING ON THE
02:39:16GROUND IS THAT OF SAME HISPANIC
02:39:18VOTERS WHO CAUSED THAT GREAT SWING IN NEW JERSEY, CAUSED THAT
02:39:22BIG SWING IN TEXAS, THEY ARE
02:39:24REALLY SOURING ON THE PRESIDENT.
02:39:27THEY ARE THE ONES HIT HARDEST BY ECONOMIC POLICIES, AND THEY ARE EITHER NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR HIM
02:39:31OR THEY ARE GOING TO CROSS THE AISLE AND VOTE FOR DEMOCRATS,
02:39:35BECAUSE THEY WANT SOME SORT OF CHANGE RIGHT NOW. HISPANIC VOTERS ARE THE SWING VOTERS.
02:39:38HOST: IT'S INTERESTING, BECAUSE
02:39:42ANTI-63 ON TWITTER SAYS I DON'T SEE ANY REPUBLICAN NOT VOTING FOR THE REPUBLICAN NOMINEE.
02:39:45THEY MAY SAY THEY ARE NOT, BUT
02:39:47WHEN IT COMES TO THE ELECTION DAY, THEY WILL PULL THE LEVER
02:39:50FOR THE PERSON WITH ER BEHIND HER NAME. THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT PHILOSOPHY
02:39:54IT IS ALL ABOUT THE R, PERIOD.
02:39:59BUT HISPANIC VOTERS IN A 2024 ELECTION SHOW THEMSELVES TO BE SWING VOTERS.
02:40:02GUEST: THEY DID VOTE FOR
02:40:06REPUBLICANS, THEY DID PULL THE
02:40:07REPUBLICAN LEVER, BUT THESE ARE
02:40:12NOT DIEHARD, FOR YOUR BUSH, ROMNEY, MCCAIN, TRUMP VOTERS HERE.
02:40:15THEY ARE THE SWING VOTERS, THEY ARE THE ONES MOST DIRECTLY
02:40:19IMPACTED BY TRUMP IMMIGRATION POLICIES, IMPACTED BY TRUMP'S
02:40:23ECONOMIC POLICIES. WHEN YOU ARE IN SOMEWHERE LIKE FLORIDA, FOR EXAMPLE,
02:40:26CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS IN AND
02:40:28AROUND MIAMI FOR MARIA SALAZAR, WHO SHE JUST CUT AND OUT A FEW
02:40:32WEEKS AGO, DIRECT TO CAMERA, TALKING TO PRESIDENT TRUMP,
02:40:35SAYING THAT YOUR IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT METHODS ARE TOO HARSH.
02:40:38YOU ARE SWEEPING UP INNOCENT
02:40:42FAMILIES IN THIS DRAGNET IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT, AND MY CONSTITUENTS ARE CONCERNED.
02:40:47THIS IS A REPUBLICAN IN A SAY THAT TRUMP CARRIED BY OVER 15
02:40:50POINTS GOING DIRECT TO CAMERA
02:40:52SAYING "TRUMP HAS GONE TOO FAR." THAT IS KIND OF THE BATTLEFIELD WE ARE IN RIGHT NOW.
02:40:59A REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN HAS TO PLEAD WITH TRUMP ON CAMERA TO
02:41:03TONE IT DOWN. HOST: I THINK THIS IS A
02:41:06SIGNIFICANT ISSUE, BUT FIRST, I
02:41:08WANT TO INVITE OUR CALLERS TO JOIN IN ON THE CONVERSATION.
02:41:12KIRK BADO FROM THE NATIONAL
02:41:16JOURNAL "HOTLINE" IS HERE,
02:41:21ANSWERING ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MIDTERM ELECTIONS.
02:41:25WE CAN GO DISTRICT BY DISTRICT, SO START CALLING IN FOR IT I WILL REPEAT YOUR PHONE LINES.
02:41:29REPUBLICANS, (202) 748-8001. DEMOCRATS, (202) 748-8000.
02:41:34AN INDEPENDENTS, (202) 748-8002.
02:41:39START CALLING AND NOW COULD WE WILL TURN BACK TO YOUR CALLS IN ONES SECOND FIT I WANT TO TALK
02:41:44ABOUT TEXAS HOUSE DISTRICT 35, 2
02:41:46LATINO CANDIDATES, GARCIA
02:41:53AND DE LA CRUZ IN THE NEWLY
02:41:56REDISTRICTING MAP.
02:42:02ONE, ARE YOU SEEING THE SAME THING WE ARE TALKING ABOUT,
02:42:05SWING VOTERS COME IMPACT ON IMMIGRATION, THE ECONOMY, ARE THEY ALL PLAYING OUT ON THIS IMPORTANT DISTRICT RIGHT NOW?
02:42:09GUEST: YEAH. AND HAS BEEN MY TIPPING POINT
02:42:14DISTRICT, WHERE THE TEXANS OVER DREW THE LINES OF SO MUCH THAT
02:42:17IT WAS NOT AS COMPETITIVE AS IT NEEDED TO BE, AND IN FACT THE
02:42:20OTHER PARTY WINS IT.
02:42:23TEXAS REPUBLICANS REDREW FIVE DISTRICTS. I WAS A MIDPOINT, IT IS PROBABLY
02:42:27FAVORED IN THE TWO OF THEM, THE
02:42:28OTHER THREE, THE ONE HELD BY --
02:42:33THERE ARE TWO OTHERS IN SOUTH TEXAS WE ARE LOOKING AT AS WELL
02:42:35HELD BY DEMOCRATIC INCUMBENTS,
02:42:38BUT THE ONE IN TEXAS 35 REDRAWING FROM A STATE
02:42:41DEMOCRATIC SEAT TO NOW
02:42:43THAT IS TRUMP LAST 10 OR SO, BASED ON THE 2024 RESULTS, KIND
02:42:46OF A HIGH WATER MARK.
02:42:49THE DEMOCRAT IS JOHNNY GARCIA, A
02:42:54FORMER SHERIFF.
02:42:56CARLOS DE LA CRUZ IS THE BROTHER OF MONICA DE LA CRUZ, THE OTHER CONGRESSWOMAN FROM TEXAS.
02:43:00IT WILL BE A COMPETITIVE RACE
02:43:02FROM BOTH PARTIES, HEAVILY IN
02:43:05THE SAN ANTONIO CP NOTHING OF DEMOCRATS WIN THIS ONE, WHICH I THINK AT THIS POINT THEY HAVE A
02:43:09CHANCE TO DO, THEN THE WHOLE
02:43:14GERRYMANDERING EFFORT IN TEXAS WOULD HAVE COMPLETELY OF
02:43:19THAT HOST: AT THIS POINT, 59% OF LATINO VOTERS DISAPPROVE OF
02:43:22TRUMP, SAYING THEY USE THAT 2024
02:43:26MAP. OBVIOUSLY THAT WOULD BE KIND OF A MISMATCH.
02:43:30GUEST: I WOULD MUCH RATHER BE
02:43:34JOHNNY GARCIA THAN CARLOS DE LA CRUZ RIGHT NOW.
02:43:36HOST: ALL RIGHT, TOMMY FROM CAPE
02:43:42CANAVERAL, FLORIDA. TELL ME HOW TO PRONOUNCE THAT.
02:43:44CALLER: CAPE CANAVERAL.
02:43:47HOST: OK, I DID PRONOUNCE IT RIGHT.
02:43:55GO AHEAD, TONY CALLER:.
02:44:00I AM AN INDEPENDENT. I LEAN LIBERTARIAN. I HEAR EVERYBODY SAYING THAT THE
02:44:04REPUBLICANS ARE DOING TERRIBLE, AND I ARE THE SOLUTION, BUT I
02:44:07WILL REMIND PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY WITH THE DEMOCRATS GAVE
02:44:09US WHEN WE HAD JOE BIDEN, THE
02:44:12CORRUPTION, THE ECONOMY, THE
02:44:15MANDATES, THE COVID ISSUES, I MEAN, THEY WERE HORRENDOUS.
02:44:18SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW PEOPLE COULD ACTUALLY THINK THAT THE
02:44:21REMEDY TO THE CURRENT SITUATION IS VOTING DEMOCRAT.
02:44:25I THINK IT IS INSANE. I THINK THE TWO PARTY NEEDS TO STOP.
02:44:28WE NEED TO HAVE MORE PEOPLE THAT
02:44:33NEEDS TO RUN IN THIS COUNTRY, BECAUSE WE HAVE TWO HEADS TO THE SAME STATE.
02:44:37IF BOTH PARTIES HAVE SHOWN THEIR
02:44:39TROOP COLORS, WHEN BOTH ARE IN POWER, AND THEY ARE ALL CORRUPT,
02:44:43AND THEY HAVE NO CONCERNS FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. THEY HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT
02:44:47ENRICHING THEMSELVES, EMPOWERING THEMSELVES, AND JUST GETTING THEMSELVES ELECTED.
02:44:50THAT IS ALL THEY DO. AND THEY USE OUR POLITICS TO
02:44:52DIVIDE US. PEOPLE NEED TO WAKE UP IN THIS COUNTRY AND REALIZE WHAT IS
02:44:56REALLY GOING ON. THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY. GUEST: I WAS GOING TO SAY TO
02:45:00THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS TYPE OF
02:45:04SWING THAT WE HAVE EVERY FEW CYCLES IS KIND OF TRUE HERE.
02:45:07IN THE LAST SIX ELECTION CYCLES HAVE BEEN A CHANGE ELECTION CAN
02:45:11EITHER OF THE HOUSE, THE SENATE, OR THE WHITE HOUSE HAVE CHANGED HANDS.
02:45:14I WOULD SAY WE ARE CERTAINLY ON
02:45:16TRACK FOR ON PRESIDENT
02:45:20SENATE ELECTION CYCLE -- UNPRECEDENTED AND SENATE ELECTION CYCLE COULD WE'VE NEVER
02:45:23SEEN A CHANGE LIKE THAT IN HISTORY.
02:45:28THE SWINGS FEEL LIKE THEY ARE SO
02:45:30STRONG IN EITHER DIRECTION.
02:45:35I THINK THE PROBLEM THAT THAT CALLER WAS REFERRING TO IS THROUGHOUT THE ELECTORATE.
02:45:3914 INCUMBENTS USING THE ELECTION
02:45:45, AND THERE IS A VAGUE,
02:45:49FESTERING, ANTI-INCUMBENT AND
02:45:49ANTI-STATUS QUO FEELING THROUGH
02:45:54THE ELECTORATE RIGHT NOW THAT I THINK WILL HELP DEMOCRATS COME NOVEMBER.
02:45:59WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THAT IS GOING TO BE THE OPEN QUESTION.
02:46:01HOST: MARIO FROM PERU, ILLINOIS
02:46:05SAYS, WHAT IS YOUR OPINION ON THE STRENGTH OF THE DEMOCRATS'
02:46:09MESSAGING AND ABILITY TO BRING OUT NEW VOTERS? GUEST: WHEN I THINK IS SO
02:46:12INTERESTING IS IF YOU LOOK AT 2018, TRUMPS MIDTERM AND THE
02:46:16LAST BLUE WAVE, DEMOCRATS SLIPPED ABOUT 41 SEATS OR SO,
02:46:20THINK THE HOUSE, AND THAT WAS ALL ABOUT HEALTH CARE. THEIR WHOLE MESSAGING WAS ABOUT HEALTH CARE.
02:46:25TRUMP WAS KIND OF BACKGROUND NOISE TO ALL OF THAT.
02:46:27THIS TIME, THOUGH, TRUMP IS
02:46:30FRONT AND CENTER, IT DOES NOT MATTER IF YOU'RE IN A BLUE PLUS
02:46:3430 SEAT OR AN 4 PLUS 15 SEAT, IT
02:46:42SPEAKS TO HOW UNPOPULAR HE IS AND HOW ECONOMIC POLICIES OF IMPACTED VOTERS.
02:46:46YOU ARE SEEING TRUMP BECOMING THE MAIN CHARACTER OF THESE MIDTERMS IN A WAY THAT HE WAS
02:46:50NOT EVEN DURING THE BLUE WAVE. AND I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SEEING
02:46:53IS IT IS NOT SO MUCH DEMOCRATS SAYING WHAT THEY ARE FOR, IT IS
02:46:56WHAT THEY ARE AGAINST, AND WHAT
02:46:58THEY ARE AGAINST IS THE STATUS QUO, WHAT THEY ARE AGAINST IS
02:47:01TRUMP AND THIS CURRENT ECONOMIC SITUATION. WHAT ARE THE SOLUTIONS FOR IT?
02:47:05TONIGHT AFTER NOVEMBER.
02:47:06HOST: DONNA FROM MICHIGAN, A
02:47:10DEMOCRAT. GOOD MORNING. CALLER: GOOD MORNING. GUEST: GOOD MORNING.
02:47:12CALLER: I JUST HAVE A COMMENT ON
02:47:16WHAT IS GOING ON IN MICHIGAN.
02:47:20JOHN'S POLICIES ARE DESTROYING OUR FARMERS, OUR AGGIE INDUSTRY,
02:47:24OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH CANADA, AND PEOPLE ARE JUST DONE WITH
02:47:26HIM HERE.
02:47:29THAT'S JUST A COMMENT, AND I'M GOING TO HANG UP AND LISTEN. THANK YOU.
02:47:32GUEST: WELL, MICHIGAN IS ONE OF
02:47:37THOSE RACES, ESPECIALLY ON THE HOUSE AND THAT IS, BUT I WILL BE
02:47:40WATCHING VERY CLOSELY. MIKE ROGERS, THE REPUBLICAN
02:47:44NOMINEE, HE'S RUNNING AGAINST
02:47:47ABDUL EL-SAYED RIGHT NOW, AND HE ACKNOWLEDGES JUST HOW BAD TRUMPS POLICIES ARE.
02:47:50HE CAME OUT WITH DEMANDING AN
02:47:54END TO THE WAR AND HE RAN. HE JUST RELEASED A COMMERCIAL RECENTLY, ALL ABOUT THE CANADIAN
02:47:58TARIFFS.
02:48:00HIM DRINKING A LABLAT, A
02:48:07CANADIAN BEER THAT IS ACTUALLY BREWED IN NEW YORK. I DON'T KNOW HOW THE TARIFFS
02:48:10WILL IN FACT THAT, BUT THESE ARE STATES THAT TRUMP WON, AND NOW
02:48:13THE REPUBLICANS ARE TRYING TO
02:48:17CLEAR THEMSELVES FROM TRUMP.
02:48:19HOST: LET'S LISTEN TO THAT AD
02:48:23FROM MIKE ROGERS, MICHIGAN SENATE NOMINEE, SOMETHING
02:48:26OBVIOUSLY TO THAT CALLER'S POINT
02:48:29HAS BEEN A BIG PART OF THE CONVERSATION.
02:48:32♪ >> DRINKING A LABLATT AND
02:48:36WATCHING THE RED WINGS DOES NOT GET MORE MICHIGAN THAN THAT.
02:48:40WE NEED TO END THIS TARIFF WORN
02:48:46OUT. I WILL BRING BOTH PARTIES TOGETHER TO LOWER YOUR PRICES.
02:48:49THAT IS JOB NUMBER ONE HIT ABDUL, HE WANTS TO HIT MICHIGAN FAMILIES WITH A $3000 TAX
02:48:54INCREASE, THE BIGGEST IN HISTORY.
02:48:57I MIKE ROGERS, AND I APPROVE THIS MESSAGE BECAUSE I WILL ACTUALLY PUT DOLLARS BACK IN YOUR POCKET.
02:49:00HOST: SO THAT WAS A MIKE ROGERS,
02:49:05THE SENATE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE IN MICHIGAN. OBVIOUSLY HE IS RUNNING A TIGHT
02:49:08RACE AGAINST THE DEMOCRATIC
02:49:12SENATE CANDIDATE, ABDUL EL-SAYED
02:49:15NEED, WHO RELEASED AN AD LINKING HIS OPPONENT, MIKE ROGERS, TWO HIGH GAS PRICES.
02:49:19LET'S TAKE A LISTEN TO PART OF THAT AT HERE. [VIDEO CLIP]
02:49:21MR. EL-SAYED: COSTING THE
02:49:25AVERAGE TRUCK DRIVER $1200 TO
02:49:29FILL UP A SINGLE TANK. HERE'S THE THING, YOU DO NOT
02:49:33FILL UP WITH DIESEL, BUT WHAT IF THEY HAVE IN THE BACK OF THE TRUCK?
02:49:37GROCERIES. THEY TAKE IT TO THE GROCERY STORE WHERE YOU GO AND BUY, AND
02:49:39I GETS BAKED INTO THE PRICE OF THOSE GROCERIES PICK WE CAN'T
02:49:42AFFORD IT AT THE PUMP, WE CANNOT
02:49:45AFFORD IT IN OUR GROCERIES. ALL OF THAT, BECAUSE OF THE
02:49:49STUPID WAR WE SHOULD NOT BE FIGHTING THAT IS RAISING THE
02:49:51PRICE OF GAS, GROCERIES, AND SO
02:49:55MANY OTHER THINGS, AND WE ARE PAYING THE PRICE. NOW, MIKE ROGERS FOR HIS PART,
02:49:59HE SAID IT IS A WIN WIN WIN, THIS WAR.
02:50:03I'M NOT WINNING. ARE YOU WINNING? JUST YESTERDAY, HE DECIDED THE
02:50:08WAR HAS TO END. I WONDER WHY THAT IS THE CASE?
02:50:11MAYBE IT IS GASKETING TO FIVE DOLLARS AND HIS POLL NUMBERS
02:50:13TAKING FOR HIM TO CHANGE HIS MIND.
02:50:18IF YOU WERE FOR THIS WAR AT THE
02:50:21VERY BEGINNING AND THEN WHEN YOU'RE POLL NUMBERS STUCK, THAT
02:50:24TELLS ME ALL YOU CARE ABOUT HIS POLITICAL EXPEDIENCY, NOT ACTUAL PRINCIPLES.
02:50:28HOST: ALL RIGHT, THAT WAS A LONG
02:50:30AD THERE FROM ABDUL EL-SAYED AND
02:50:34HIS CAMPAIGN. TALK ABOUT HOW MICHIGAN HAS
02:50:36KINDA BEEN A MICROCOSM, I GUESS,
02:50:39FOR ALL OF THE ISSUES AS VOTERS
02:50:41RANK AS 1, 2, 3, AND ALSO THE BIGGEST CONCERNS FOR THE BIG TERM ELECTION.
02:50:45GUEST: IT'S ALL ABOUT THE
02:50:48ECONOMY, STUPID, TO PARAPHRASE.
02:50:52IT ALL GOES BACK TO PRICES, THE FUEL GOES BACK TO PRICES, THE
02:50:56TARIFFS GOES BACK TO PRICES ON
02:50:58ALL OF IT GOES BACK TO VOTERS'
02:51:02PERSONAL ECONOMY. TRUMP WILL POINT TO THE LOW UNEMPLOYMENT NUMBERS, THE STOCK
02:51:05MARKET IS A LOOK, THE ECONOMY IS DOING GREAT.
02:51:08IF I CLOSE MY EYES AND I LISTEN TO THOSE EXCUSES, I HEAR WHAT
02:51:12THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION WAS TELLING VOTERS AS WELL FOUR
02:51:13YEARS AGO.
02:51:19IT IS NOT SO MUCH THE MACROECONOMY VOTERS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT HIM IS THE MICRO ACADEMY, AT THE KITCHEN TABLE AND THEIR WALLET. IN MICHIGAN HAS BEEN FEELING THE
02:51:22BRUNT OF THE THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL.
02:51:25--S BRUNT OF THE TARIFFS, AND AS THAT AD JUST POINTED OUT, THE
02:51:31FUEL PRICES, TO WHERE MIKE
02:51:35ROGERS HAS HAD TO GO OUT AND SQUEEZE SOME DAYLIGHT BETWEEN
02:51:38HIMSELF AND THE REPUBLICANS
02:51:43WITH HIS ADS.
02:51:45HOST: HOW IMPAIRED IS IS IT FOR
02:51:49THEM -- HOW IMPERATIVE IS IT FOR THEM TO WIN MICHIGAN?
02:51:51GUEST: IT WILL BE DIFFICULT FOR
02:51:54THEM TO FLIP THE SENATE WITHOUT MICHIGAN. IT'S THE OPEN SENATE SEAT HELD
02:51:58BY PETERS, AND UNLIKE TWO YEARS AGO, WHERE SLAWSON SLID RIGHT
02:52:02INTO THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION,
02:52:06AND IT WAS A TOUGH YEAR FOR DEMOCRATS, A BITTER PRIMARY
02:52:11FIGHT FOR DEMOCRATS BETWEEN ABDUL AND STEVENS, THE MORE
02:52:13MODERATE DEMOCRATIC MEMBER WHO HAS WON SWING RACES BEFORE.
02:52:18ABDUL EL-SAYED IS MUCH MORE PROGRESSIVE.
02:52:20HE IS NOT WON THE BEST CAMPAIGN IN THE WORLD.
02:52:23I THINK IF THERE WERE ANY OTHER DEMOCRAT AS A NOMINEE IN MICHIGAN, THEY WOULD BE RUNNING
02:52:27AWAY WITH THIS RACE. INSTEAD, IT IS MUCH MORE COMPETITIVE. I THINK A LOT OF PROGRESSIVES
02:52:31WILL BE WATCHING THIS RACE
02:52:32PRETTY CLOSELY.
02:52:40YOU JUST HEARD AOC LESS WE GOT A FUNDRAISER I BELIEVE IN NEW YORK, THAT IF ABDUL EL-SAYED WINS, IT WILL EMPOWER THE PROGRESSIVE MOVEMENT TO MAKE SOME BIG SWINGS, COME 2028,
02:52:44WHICH COULD INCLUDE AOC RUNNING FOR THE WHITE HOUSE AS WELL. HOST: RIGHT.
02:52:51IF ABDUL WINS, PROGRESSIVES CAN WIN ANYWHERE.
02:52:55LAILA, AN INDEPENDENT, GOOD MORNING, LAYLA.
02:52:56CALLER: YES, MY VOICE IS BAD
02:53:02THIS MORNING. BUT I'VE GOT SOME QUESTIONS, WHICH BOTHER ME.
02:53:10WE HAVE THE PRESIDENT WHO CAN PREVENT THE WHOLE WAR, AND IT COMES DOWN TO US.
02:53:21-- THE SENATE SEAT A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO, AND HE TALKED ABOUT
02:53:23ABDUL EL-SAYED, AND THEY ARE
02:53:26CLOSING IN, OF BEING SORT OF --
02:53:33[INDISCERNIBLE]
02:53:39-- IN MY EMOTIONS.
02:53:41I AM A CATHOLIC.
02:53:47-- UNDER THE CONSTITUTION. FREEDOM OF RELIGION.
02:53:52WHY IS RELIGION ON THE TOP OF THE AGENDA? [INDISCERNIBLE]
02:54:00THIS IS NOT THE WAY A PRESIDENT OF ALL AMERICA SHOULD SPEAK.
02:54:07-- ON MY AGENDA --
02:54:11[INDISCERNIBLE]
02:54:15-- CALLING ON A PUBLIC BOMB TO
02:54:19DESTROY 92 MILLION PEOPLE --
02:54:27HOST: ALL RIGHT, LAYLA, LET'S LET KIRK GET IN ON THIS.
02:54:29GUEST: SHE MENTIONED TRUMP BEGAN
02:54:33HIS CAMPAIGN IN AREAS THAT ARE DEEPLY RED, HE HAS WON ALL NINE OF THOSE BY A MINIMUM OF 20
02:54:42POINTS. BUT SHE ALSO MENTIONED HOW THEY TALKED ABOUT ABDUL EL-SAYED YET, WHICH I THINK HAS BEEN AN INTERESTING SUBPLOT HERE. EL-SAYED WOULD BE THE FIRST
02:54:46MUSLIM SENATOR IN AMERICAN HISTORY.
02:54:47AND I THINK THE TENSION THERE,
02:54:50ESPECIALLY WITH SOME OF THE MORE
02:54:52ONLINE, MORE SOCIALLY
02:54:55CONSERVATIVE COMMENTATORS, ARE REALLY TRYING TO MAKE AN ISSUE OF HIS RELIGION HERE, ESPECIALLY
02:54:59IN AREAS WHERE THERE ARE MORE
02:55:02JEWISH VOTERS IN MICHIGAN, TRYING TO MAKE HIS CRITICISM OF ISRAEL A BIG PART OF THE
02:55:07CAMPAIGN. I'M INTERESTED TO SEE HOW THAT PLAYS OUT, BECAUSE THAT WAS SUCH
02:55:11A HUGE CRUCIAL FACTOR IN THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY EARLIER THIS CYCLE.
02:55:14HOST: ALL RIGHT, THE NEXT CALLER
02:55:19FROM OHIO, I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT OHIO, WHERE THE PRESIDENT
02:55:22IS EXPECTED TO VISIT LATER, BUT FIRST, LET'S GO TO LINDA, AN INDEPENDENT. GOOD MORNING.
02:55:26CALLER: HELLO?
02:55:30HOST: YOU ARE ON.
02:55:32CALLER: I AM NOT AN INDEPENDENT,
02:55:36BUT I WOULD VOTE FOR EITHER PARTY. I AM A CONSERVATIVE.
02:55:40AND MY THING IS, EVER SINCE THE PRESIDENT, WE GOT A CONGRESS OF
02:55:45THEIR, AND THE LIBERALS ARE --
02:55:48THEY HATE HIM SO MUCH THAT THEY JUST ARE GOING AGAINST
02:55:52EVERYTHING HE DOES.
02:55:56I'M BACK FROM THE DAY, I'M 72,
02:56:00WHERE RONALD REAGAN WORKED WITH THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE, AND THEY COMPROMISED.
02:56:04THERE IS HATE ON BOTH SIDES OF
02:56:07THE AISLE THAT IS RIDICULOUS AND IT IS CHILDISH, BECAUSE THEY
02:56:10NEED TO BE WORKING ON BILLS,
02:56:11GETTING THINGS DONE, INSTEAD OF
02:56:16JUST HATING THE PRESIDENT.
02:56:17AS FAR AS PRICES, THOUGH, REMEMBER WHAT THOSE WERE DURING BIDEN?
02:56:21DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT A HAMBURGER WAS? PEOPLE SEEM TO FORGET, WHEN HE
02:56:26CLOSED THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE AND GAS PRICES WENT UP, YOU KNOW, YEAH.
02:56:31WE GOT THE AROUND WAR OR CAUSING PRICES TO GO UP RIGHT NOW, BUT.
02:56:34HOST: ALL RIGHT, LINDA, LET'S
02:56:38LET KIRK GET IN HERE.
02:56:41GUEST: I THINK BRINGING IN CARS
02:56:45AND DYSFUNCTIONAL CONGRESS,
02:56:47CONGRESS'S APPROVAL RATING IS
02:56:50HISTORICALLY LOW, 20% LOWER THAN THE PRESENT, BUT REPUBLICANS ARE
02:56:54IN CONTROL OF CONGRESS RIGHT NOW , AND THEY HAVE LARGELY KICKED
02:56:58THE CAN AND PLANTED ON SOME OF THEIR MORE INDEPENDENT AND
02:57:02LEGISLATIVE ABILITIES AND DEFERRED A LOT TO THE PRESIDENT.
02:57:05SO TRUMP IS, IN ESSENCE, RUNNING NOT ONLY THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH
02:57:08FOR THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH AS WELL. THAT IS WHAT VOTERS ARE SEEING RIGHT NOW.
02:57:13TRUMP IS THE MAIN CHARACTER OF EVERY ASPECT OF POLITICAL LIFE
02:57:16RIGHT NOW, AND VOTERS ARE SICK AND TIRED OF IT. HOST: THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A
02:57:20COMPETITIVE RACE HAPPENING IN OHIO RIGHT NOW, AGAINST DEMOCRATIC SENATE CANDIDATE
02:57:24SHERROD BROWN, THE REPUBLICAN
02:57:28AND INCUMBENT CANDIDATE, AND THE RACE FOR GOVERNOR ALSO BETWEEN A
02:57:32REPUBLICAN WHO JUST WON A SUMMIT, AND AMY ACTING IS ALSO PRETTY CLOSE.
02:57:37IS THERE A CONCERN ABOUT TICKET SPLITTING ANYWHERE ON EITHER SIDE OF THE PARTY?
02:57:41GUEST: I THINK THERE IS CONCERN ABOUT TICKET SPLITTING HERE, BUT
02:57:45IT IS SUCH A FASCINATING RACE
02:57:46RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE SHERROD BROWN
02:57:49HAS BEEN IN PUBLIC LIFE IN OHIO FOR ABOUT 50 YEARS OR SO. IN FACT, IT WAS REALLY
02:57:58INTERESTING, THERE WAS A SURVEY OF THIS MONTH BUT SHORT ABOUT ONE QUARTER OF OHIO VOTERS STILL BELIEVE SHERROD BROWN IS THERE SENATOR RIGHT NOW AND NOT JON
02:58:02HUSTED, WHO WAS THE APPOINTED SENATOR TO FILL IN JD VANCE'S SEAT.
02:58:08TRUMP HAS NEVER LOST OHIO. HE'S CARRIED OUT THREE TIMES IN THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION COULD
02:58:12WHAT I FIND INTERESTING THOUGH IS IN OHIO AND OFTEN IOWA,
02:58:16KANSAS, TEXAS, AND ALASKA, THOSE FIVE SENATE RACES THAT ARE
02:58:19GETTING MORE AND MORE COMPETITIVE, THOSE ARE ALL RACES
02:58:23THAT TRUMP LOST IN 2016, DURING
02:58:24THE PRIMARY.
02:58:28HE LOST TO TED CRUZ. I'M NOT SAYING THERE IS AN
02:58:31ANCESTRAL ANTI-TRUMP VEIN, BUT
02:58:35THERE IS MORE SKEPTICISM IN THOSE STATES VANDY DEEPER MAGA
02:58:38AREAS OF THE COUNTRY.
02:58:42I THINK THAT MIGHT HELP DRAG DOWN VIVEK RAMASWAMY AND JON HUS
02:58:44TED COME NOVEMBER.
02:58:46HOST: SPEAKING OF PRESIDENTS,
02:58:50FORMER PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS ENTERED THE FRAY NOW IN THE FINAL STRETCH OF THE MIDTERM ELECTIONS.
02:58:55WE SAW HIM GET INVOLVED IN THE
02:58:56MAIN RACE AGAINST REPUBLICAN
02:58:59INCUMBENT SENATOR COLLINS VERSUS
02:59:03CHALLENGER TROY JACKSON, HE GOT INVOLVED IN THE MICHIGAN RACE
02:59:06FOR ABDUL EL-SAYED AGAINST MIKE ROGERS.
02:59:10WHY ARE ALL OF THESE CANDIDATES RUSHING TO GO CAMPAIGN WITH OBAMA?
02:59:14GUEST: THANK OBAMA.
02:59:18HE IS THE CLOSER IN CHIEF. HE IS THE MOST POPULAR FIGURE IN
02:59:21THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. HE IS THE MOST POPULAR, UNITING
02:59:26FIGURE IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY FOR PROGRESSIVES, FOR MORE CONSERVATIVE DEMOCRATS.
02:59:30HE IS THE REMASTER OF THE BIG TENT RIGHT NOW IN THE DEMOCRATIC
02:59:33PARTY, AND I THINK THAT IS MORE OF AN INDICTMENT ON THE CURRENT
02:59:35LEADERS OF THE PARTY, THAT THEY
02:59:39ARE NOT ABLE TO BE THAT KIND OF UNITING FIGURE. JOE BIDEN CERTAINLY ISN'T,
02:59:43KAMALA HARRIS ISN'T AS WELL, I
02:59:44THINK JEFFRIES AND CHUCK
02:59:48SCHUMER, THEY HAVE LOWER APPROVAL RATINGS THAN THE REPUBLICAN COUNTERPARTS. OBAMA IS THE BEST CLOSER THE
02:59:52DEMOCRATS HAVE RIGHT NOW. HOST: ALL RIGHT, NATIONAL
02:59:55JOURNAL "HOTLINE" EDITOR KIRK
02:59:59BADO, THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US THIS MORNING. GUEST: THANK YOU FOR HAVE ANY.
03:00:01HOST: THAT IS ALL THE TIME WE
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