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00:01:00is gathering, we know that you will destroy us,
00:01:04so we will break through, open
00:01:06a corridor for us to break through, we will leave the city, and there will be no
00:01:10bloodshed, tell Maskhadov, I answer them,
00:01:14I surrounded you to destroy you, we will bomb
00:01:17and shell, we will bring you to such a state that you
00:01:21will break through yourselves, and then we will take
00:01:24all of you warm, who will survive, but
00:01:28the question is, how is he going to do it?
00:02:03The 48-hour general's ultimatum expires tonight at
00:02:06midnight, apparently, the last attempt to stop the massacre was made
00:02:10today by the Secretary of the Security Council, Alexander Lebed. I am not going to
00:02:13persuade anyone, I command here, I have legitimate
00:02:17powers. If I had known how things would turn out, I would not have
00:02:20let Lebed into Grozny, I would have thrown him onto
00:02:24the runway of a tank, his plane would never have landed
00:02:27in Khankala. And while...
00:03:30it will be his will,
00:03:33freely, guys, he changed his point of view in a few
00:03:36months, when he faced this, Lebed wanted
00:03:40a seven-minute glory of a peacemaker,
00:03:43saying that no one can solve the problem of Chechnya for almost 2
00:03:46years, and he, yes, with one swoop, with one stroke
00:03:50of a pen, with just his appearance, with his
00:03:53Bonapartist onslaught, we are all in shit, and he is in
00:03:56white, for immeasurable ambition,
00:04:08if they had let the guys finish the first war, there would have been no second, that's what we decided with the mothers,
00:04:11our men were very much against it, let us
00:04:15finish, it was self-deception, yes, we
00:04:19are like that, if it wasn't for Lebed, we would have nothing,
00:04:22they would not have done anything, because they did not know
00:04:25the specifics of Chechnya, they did not know the people.
00:05:00The tsar of the Security Council, Lebed, is bringing a peaceful
00:05:03plan, he will finally cross out
00:05:06all the goals of the protracted
00:05:08special operation. We met in his
00:05:11office. Then he showed me
00:05:15the text, and I read it and said: "Hmm,
00:05:18maybe there's something
00:05:21to this." Then he said: "Okay, pass
00:05:25this to the Chechen side." There were
00:05:28some Chechens who started cursing, "What
00:05:31is this, we don't accept this at all." Then
00:05:35I said, "Wait, wait, this is just an appendix, we
00:05:39could probably talk about this."
00:05:52On August 11, in the east of Chechnya, a
00:05:55car traveling from Dagestan
00:05:58came under fire. There were no casualties.
00:06:02In the car was Lebed, secretly arrived from Moscow,
00:06:05with his security and escorts from the
00:06:09militants, including 19.
00:06:43perfectly understood each other, the main discussion was how to
00:06:46end the war, withdraw troops, so that there would be no
00:06:50provocation, to quell this wave
00:06:52of tension.
00:06:56During these negotiations, shooting started several
00:06:59times, you never
00:07:03know who starts, and Maskhadov and Lebed, interrupting
00:07:06the negotiations, roared at their own,
00:07:09"Stop, cease fire."
00:07:44Alexander Ivanovich, who sat next to
00:07:48me in the first row of this helicopter,
00:07:51he, you see, politely but firmly asked
00:07:55the pilot to move over, and he took his place, so we
00:07:59sat there early in the morning, it was already
00:08:01dawning,
00:08:06negotiations began, not very constructively, because
00:08:09people were emotionally overwhelmed.
00:08:42wouldn't have accepted your words, to my
00:08:45astonishment Lebed pressed
00:08:48and pressed Maskhadov as if
00:08:51the advantage was on his side, in such a way that both
00:08:55sides could say, "Well,
00:08:56nothing."
00:09:01What the delegations of Lebed and Maskhadov
00:09:04would achieve in the city of Khasavyurt
00:09:07would go down in the history of Russian diplomacy
00:09:10unusual document, not...
00:09:14Joint statement,
00:09:18it begins with the words: "We, the undersigned."
00:09:20And who are the undersigned? In
00:09:23textbooks of the Putin era,
00:09:26this document will be called criminal, but
00:09:30it is this document that will put an end
00:09:32to the bloodshed. Let's stop
00:09:35the killing, and then the politicians
00:09:39and so on will talk.
00:10:12without weapons, APCs, why
00:10:15aren't they named? Each side will
00:10:18use any opportunity
00:10:22to interpret any loophole in its favor.
00:10:28And so, line by line,
00:10:31formulation by formulation, and this
00:10:34was the Khasavyurt
00:10:36agreement.
00:10:39The end,
00:10:41enough,
00:10:52peace achieved in Khasav-Yurt.
00:11:25unfortunately, they
00:11:26didn't implement it,
00:11:31it's impossible to wage a war when society doesn't
00:11:34support you, and society at that moment was absolutely
00:11:38against this
00:11:38war.
00:11:44A small part of the Russian troops, according to the original
00:11:48plan, were supposed to remain in Chechnya,
00:11:51however, Moscow would magnanimously
00:11:55abandon even that. Again, I would recall here the role of
00:11:58Berezovsky, who was entrusted to get involved
00:12:02in this whole story and use some of his capabilities. We
00:12:05met in his large
00:12:09house, I said, suppose
00:12:115,000 soldiers of the Russian army in
00:12:15Chechnya, Chechens capture
00:12:17them as
00:12:20hostages,
00:12:22this is very dangerous, this was my argument, either
00:12:26many or none, why
00:12:29not leave with all the troops,
00:12:32then he had a meeting with
00:12:35Yeltsin, then
00:12:39Boris Abramovich returned and said:
00:12:41"That's it." I asked, "What's it?" "That's it."
00:12:58They wanted us to run away from there like cockroaches, and
00:13:02it was shameful for the country when the militants screamed after us,
00:13:05shot in the air with cries of Allah Akbar, insulted
00:13:09and threatened. Whoever participated in this withdrawal
00:13:12of troops will have a bitterness in their soul for the rest of their life,
00:13:15a bitterness for Russia, for the state, and
00:13:19we did not start this war, we do not need this war, on the one hand it seems like
00:13:22some kind of betrayal, they all seemed to have started...
00:14:05However, this was not the end of the Chechen
00:14:08war, and it seems both sides suspected
00:14:12it.
00:14:14The war is indeed over, we need to create conditions
00:14:18so that there is no
00:14:21I remember how immediately after
00:14:24the signing, the agreement was chewed up
00:14:27there in the Khasavyurt house,
00:14:30Maskhadov told me that, yes, I am generally
00:14:33speaking, a Soviet officer, but these
00:14:36guys, they are very hot-headed, he said, nodding towards his
00:14:40companions, and it's very difficult. Lukin,
00:14:44I think, during the Khasavyurt negotiations said
00:14:47that, well, don't relax too much, 5 years of peace
00:14:50conclusion, we will still come back to you and take...
00:14:55On the other hand, if a war is going badly, then to take
00:14:59a break in order to reorganize one's own
00:15:01forces, using military or non-military means, this is a natural
00:15:05path, the right
00:15:06path.
00:15:16We are not terrorists, we have never committed terrorist acts.
00:15:19In any case, this is
00:15:21terrorist, judges, not who by education. Chechens
00:15:56failed to build exactly the state they
00:15:59talked about, dreamed of, a real
00:16:02chance appeared, which was secured, among other things, by the signatures
00:16:05of the OSCE, to the Chechen. this chance is missed due to their
00:16:09mentality, everyone thought that they could
00:16:12fix the situation, that they would do it right, it is very
00:16:15difficult to build a state when 1 million
00:16:19people and 1 million
00:16:20presidents live in it.
00:16:23There are kidnapped persons, released among the kidnapped
00:16:27persons, officers, privates, contract soldiers. Yes, you release
00:16:31them, but why release them, this is private property
00:16:34of Chechens, wasn't that nightmare that
00:16:37occurred in interwar Chechnya spilling over into
00:16:41Russia, isn't that the consequence of Khasavyurt, it's the consequence
00:16:44of war, first of all, the main crime
00:16:48is that this war was started, not that it
00:16:51was ended. Khasavyurt is an episode of this
00:16:54war. Any halt to a war is
00:16:58a compromise, if we have no victor and no
00:17:01vanquished, then it's a compromise. Yeltsin went for this compromise,
00:17:05which ultimately led to the second Chechen war, our
00:17:09direct duty is to restore law
00:17:13and order on this
00:17:15land. Good heavens, you
00:17:19bury your comrades, your
00:17:21friends every month, how can
00:17:25you want this again?
00:17:39I'm Konstantin Goldenshveig, in '96, I'm 12. I
00:17:42know nothing about Chechnya, but I like Russian rock and
00:17:46Hollywood movies. I have a pen pal in the States, and I also
00:17:49dream of visiting Europe. In our hometown of Ryazan, we
00:17:53live poorly, but even there, believe me, there's a sense
00:17:56of rapid change and incredible freedom. On
00:18:00our street, there's a tiny rally against the Chechen war, but against
00:18:03the backdrop of other turbulent events, it doesn't seem significant.
00:18:0730 years will pass, and taking on this film,
00:18:11I myself will be surprised how much of what surrounds us originates
00:18:14from there, from the first Chechen war. That
00:18:18time, the mid-nineties, supposedly the happiest era,
00:18:21was the beginning of the end.
00:18:24It seems absurd that from the multitude of private tragedies
00:18:28of the burned house in Samashki and those beaten in railway cars in Mozdok,
00:18:32the blown-up school in Grozny, from these fragments, that
00:18:36heap of glass would form, around which in the end would be not
00:18:39Chechnya, but all of us. Or is it not so
00:18:43straightforward?
00:18:46It's up to you to decide. What is certain is that these mountains of the Caucasus
00:18:50are not Chechen. We are in Georgia,
00:18:52why? Well, if briefly, because in Russia
00:18:56there is still
00:18:57war.
00:19:00It is reported that in the western part of the city, Russian fighters hoisted
00:19:04the tricolor on the roof of one of the houses, the situation for the new commander.
00:19:37into two parts: Russia and everyone
00:19:40else.
00:19:42Well, I think we jumped on the last
00:19:45step,
00:19:49we don't want them to tread on our Russian
00:19:53land.
00:19:55The First Chechen War finally legalized
00:19:58violence as a way to solve
00:20:01problems. It was generally as bloody and
00:20:04lawless as the current war in Ukraine. There would have been no war in
00:20:08Ukraine without the war in Chechnya, this is
00:20:12the most important link in this chain of wars, chain of crimes, and
00:20:15chain of impunity, this is such, I would say,
00:20:19an inoculation of cruelty,
00:20:22when a huge number of destroyed
00:20:25lives, fates, and ultimately just
00:20:28deaths, it turns out that this can be
00:20:30survived, well, it happens, well, I will
00:20:34answer with the words of Andrei Voznesensky.
00:20:38Everything returns to its own circles,
00:20:41only these circles rotate, let's talk about Chechnya
00:20:44as history,
00:20:48when Putin is no longer there, for whatever reasons, what will happen to
00:20:51Chechnya? I would rephrase this
00:20:54question, what will happen to Russia?
00:20:57The question today also exists, what
00:21:01is Russia? if it's a national
00:21:04state, who are these people?
00:21:08Ukrainians, as the Kremlin sees it,
00:21:11are they people in one state
00:21:14or not? and this question was also in
00:21:18Chechnya, who are the Chechens? This is when
00:21:21they tell me: well, we still won, the answer to
00:21:25this is very simple: Grozny was
00:21:29a Russian city, but now we won,
00:21:32Grozny is a Chechen city,
00:21:35the Russians have disappeared somewhere, in
00:21:38Moscow, Chechens feel like
00:21:41masters, so where do the winners live now, where do they
00:21:45walk around with golden pistols?
00:21:49This is... the collapse of the empire, which we are going through not
00:21:53for the first time, but we need to understand that nothing is over yet.
00:26:58Boris Nemtsov was shot near the Kremlin.
00:27:08If something happens to me, there will be a scandal not only in
00:27:12Moscow, but all over the world. They
00:27:15killed my father, I cannot just
00:27:17remain silent.
00:27:22I had no ambition to become a public figure,
00:27:25an activist or anything of that sort. To imagine that my
00:27:29life would be like that, no, impossible.
00:27:34Do you have strong evidence that Putin
00:27:37directly ordered this, because what you said
00:27:41is the most direct accusation against a Russian leader in all
00:27:45history.
00:27:49What you have managed to do here is absolutely incredible, I
00:27:53mean the foundation that you created here in Germany, the Boris Nemtsov
00:27:57Foundation.
00:28:00All graduates. my great inspiration and my
00:28:04motivation to do what I have been doing for 8
00:29:12a Russian-made assault rifle, a Kalashnikov
00:29:15assault rifle, the twelfth, modernized,
00:29:19the history of the assault rifle is such that it was captured in battle here in
00:29:22Ukraine, this assault rifle, now it serves
00:29:26in the Sheikh Mansur
00:29:28battalion.
00:30:07we conduct
00:30:08assaults,
00:30:15we are ready to starve, we are ready for any
00:30:18hardships, just not to be slaves
00:30:21of the Russian
00:30:22Federation,
00:30:30so it was an arrival here... Orlans are circling, so come on,
00:30:56yes, I remember, it was.
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