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00:05:29the nature park in Järvamaa, Totsikannu, is quite
00:05:33noisy right now, because the Red Deer are in rut, or mating season,
00:05:36so to speak, the time of the deer bulls,
00:05:40but the animal of the year, the Hedgehog, is preparing
00:05:43for winter. We'll hear more about it on Monday after the ten
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00:06:47Foreign Affairs Hour.
00:06:53Germany's former intelligence chief August Hanning was detained on suspicion of
00:06:56espionage and treason. In Monday's foreign affairs hour, we will discuss
00:07:00the extent, meaning, and impact
00:07:03of the largest intelligence scandal of recent decades
00:07:06on security. Historian Ivo Juurvee, Riigikogu member Erik
00:07:10Niiles Kross, and Member of the European Parliament Rihoterras will join us in the studio.
00:07:14The foreign affairs hour will be broadcast on Monday after the two o'clock news.
00:17:45Peace Prize, because the new laureate has been
00:17:48announced, who is Namanithem, Navi,
00:17:52Vlai, how unexpected was it that this
00:17:56name was announced today as the new laureate? Well, there's always
00:17:59a lot of unexpectedness with peace laureates, because there was never
00:18:03a public list of candidates, not in any year. There
00:18:06usually are these lists from which
00:18:10the Norwegian Nobel Peace Committee selects them
00:18:14from a couple of hundred names, and although
00:18:17here the betting offices also put forward their own candidates,
00:18:20his name certainly didn't come up there, among the favorites were considered
00:18:24this association in Ukraine that tries to get children back from Russia, who have been
00:18:28deported there, as well as a Sudanese aid organization, so in that
00:18:31sense it can be said that it was a surprise, but but the true prize, it's a surprise
00:18:35every year and perhaps
00:18:37it's also good that it's not so definitively predictable, that some playful
00:18:41aspect remains in this serious world,
00:18:44but before we talk about what Navi has exactly
00:18:48done in life and achieved, for which she received this prize, let's see
00:18:52how she herself reacted to the news.
00:19:08"your applause means a great deal to me,
00:19:12really, you don't want to receive an award prize or
00:19:15anything, unless the public agrees that you
00:19:18deserve this, so that that's how I appreciate
00:19:22your applause today, thank you so much, but being a lawyer and a
00:19:26judge, I still want to verify this
00:19:28thing,
00:19:30I think it's very appropriate that I would friends and
00:19:33colleagues, all of whom support human rights."
00:20:07Emiax, because the 85-year-old lady
00:20:10and her background is in that sense very colorful, as she is from
00:20:14South Africa, but she is an ethnic Tamil from there, meaning
00:20:18actually those people from India who migrated there already in the mid-19th
00:20:21century, and she is also one of those who, for example,
00:20:24defended Nelson Mandela when Nelson Mandela and his fellow fighters were
00:20:28in prison, so in that sense she has a very colorful background, and indeed in recent
00:20:31decades she has been in international courts,
00:20:35in the International Criminal Court as well.
00:20:39an investigative unit, which then gave an assessment of
00:20:42Gaza last year and indeed called it genocide,
00:20:45so in that sense, her services to the international
00:20:49community are very numerous. What is
00:20:52the main focus, what is the biggest thing? Human rights,
00:20:56human rights in the broadest sense, and she has also been involved
00:20:59in one, let's say, such legal research that
00:21:03fundamentally stated from the point of view of international
00:21:06law that sexual crimes can also be
00:21:09considered a form of genocide, so
00:21:12in fact this is a very important contribution she has
00:21:16made to how genocide, for example, is understood in the context of international
00:21:20law, so, well, also in the case of the Gaza issue
00:21:23itself, right, we talk about genocide, so that, how we generally
00:21:27define genocide, she has also played a very big academic role
00:21:31in that. Well, let's get to that same Israeli issue and the genocide
00:21:35issue, right, I'll put them together in one sentence as a pair of words, because the Israeli
00:21:38government has reacted very sharply to this and says that it's almost
00:21:42a parody what is happening now, that a peace prize is given to such a person and it only
00:21:45incites hatred against Israel. How do
00:21:49you comment on that? "What the world media writes about? It's not
00:21:52surprising, and similarly, the US has also been critical,
00:21:55that if in that same clip she said, if you clap even louder,
00:21:59I'll give it to Trump, then actually that joke about last year, when
00:22:03the Venezuelan opposition leader gave his prize to
00:22:06Trump, that in that sense there's nothing
00:22:09surprising about the reactions, and even more, today, for example, a few hours after
00:22:13this news, the US announced that it would impose new sanctions on the International Criminal
00:22:17Court, so in that sense..." "What does that
00:22:20mean, that new sanctions will be imposed,
00:22:24restrictions will be placed on the financing of the International Court,
00:22:28on the travel of members of the International Court, for example, on the issuance
00:22:31of visas, because Navi is associated with it, let's say that the
00:22:34timing is symbolic, that they come today, but
00:22:38of course both the US and actually Israeli attacks
00:22:41against the International Criminal Court have been
00:22:44widespread, it must of course be noted that neither Israel nor
00:22:47the US have themselves joined this
00:22:51statute, and even more, the International Criminal Court has actually issued
00:22:55an arrest warrant for Benjamin Netanyahu, who is the Prime Minister of Israel,
00:22:58as well as of course for Russian President Vladimir Putin,
00:23:02so in that sense we live in
00:23:05an era where major powers, including the US,
00:23:08but also Russia, China, all who are not members of this court,
00:23:12very clearly attack this
00:23:15system, which says that somewhere there exists some
00:23:18higher body that has the right to
00:23:22give assessments, such as whether what is happening in Gaza is genocide or not, because, well, we
00:23:25live in an era where these major powers at least think that those
00:23:29countries that have power, they dictate what is right and what is not
00:23:32in international relations more broadly, so actually
00:23:36this is the context in which it is situated, and therefore this criticism today
00:23:39from Washington or Tel Aviv is not
00:23:43surprising at all. If we set these two aside, then what has the general
00:23:47reaction been? Well, these
00:23:50brief moments from her life that I read out are
00:23:53actually worth rewarding
00:23:57or acknowledging, and in that sense, still considering
00:24:00that all NATO member states, except the US and Turkey,
00:24:03are also members of this International Criminal Court, where again
00:24:07today's laureate has
00:24:10worked for a long time, so in that sense, well, the vast majority of what we
00:24:14call the democratic world still recognizes
00:24:17this decision, and also
00:24:20the news was received in Nuremberg,
00:24:24which is also quite symbolic. A very interesting coincidence,
00:24:27yes, yes, so in that sense, I would say
00:24:30that it has been widely recognized that this award
00:24:34is for a good cause, that we have certainly perhaps shrugged more in previous
00:24:37years, perhaps also in 2009, when US President Barack Obama received it,
00:24:41right, so in that sense,
00:24:44based on these initial reactions, I would dare to say that it is still predominantly
00:24:48a supportive attitude. What is
00:24:50the current
00:24:53taste of the Nobel Peace Prize?
00:24:56Is it still highly coveted, everyone still desperately wants
00:25:00to get it, and if it somehow goes awry again, then you think, oh, well,
00:25:04it's not quite what it used to be, and
00:25:07anyway, let Norway do what Norway wants, and perhaps
00:25:11it can be said in that sense that disappointment
00:25:14creates that sour grapes moment, that "oh, I didn't want it anyway," I would
00:25:18still say that in such "wider diplomacy, perhaps,
00:25:22it is still a very great recognition, so in that sense, to be a Nobel
00:25:26Peace Prize laureate is still something you would
00:25:29certainly highlight highly on your CV, so in that sense it is
00:25:32recognition for a very great
00:25:35contribution in the name of the highest
00:25:39ideal, which is peace, so
00:25:42truly peace, peace should still be, especially
00:25:45considering the horrors of the 20th century, something we strive for every day,
00:25:49right. And in that sense, I would still consider it a very, very
00:25:52prestigious award. If we also think about what the general background
00:25:56is, then currently the focus is on human rights. Is
00:26:00this also in some way significant, why human rights, why now, why this
00:26:04topic? Well, human rights are still under a very
00:26:07great attack, right, that we truly
00:26:11see that also regarding Gaza, well, we can discuss
00:26:14this, especially here in October, right, where now the third year has passed, right, since
00:26:18the October 7th attack on Israel, that at that time, right, the world
00:26:22acknowledged that what was done to Israel was horrible, but if we look now
00:26:26at how the war has progressed over three years, well, then we actually
00:26:29still see the horrors that Israel itself has
00:26:33perpetrated, right, and not just in Gaza, but also actually on the West Bank, and something that has been condemned
00:26:36for decades, which goes against all international law, so in that sense we still
00:26:40see that international law as a concept is still
00:26:44under a very great attack, and if I mentioned Russia
00:26:48and China earlier, right, as countries that do not really recognize
00:26:51such concepts, well, these are already the majority, right, of the UN Security
00:26:55Council, of that body that should be somehow in the role of a world
00:26:59policeman, so in that sense we are still in a situation where all
00:27:02the stronger part of the world
00:27:06is rather against us having some
00:27:09more universal human rights, that
00:27:11the most powerful countries in the world, the USA and China, for example, are against it,
00:27:15so in that sense I think that is still significant and
00:27:18therefore actually important, that this award is in the right place. Thank you, Indrek Leppik,
00:27:22for coming to Ringvaade today to cover this award,
00:27:26but yesterday the Nobel Literature Prize was also awarded, and it
00:27:29was won by Canadian writer Ann Carson, who is
00:27:33known for her hybrid style, in which she mixes poetry and prose and
00:27:36combines contemporary stories with ancient myths, and we
00:27:40will immediately listen to excerpts from what she herself said about the award
00:27:44in a telephone interview with the Nobel Committee.
00:27:46have you given any thought about what
00:27:49this Nobel Prize means to you?
00:27:53No, no, I don't, I don't have,
00:27:55we're just thinking of ways to give the money away, we have a friend who needs
00:27:59a house. and we have we always give a lot to
00:28:03Doctors Without Borders, it seems
00:28:06a little insane, I think you're all
00:28:09insane, why does it feel crazy and and
00:28:12insane, you didn't expect this, well who was expected
00:28:16for heaven's sakes,
00:28:18how will you celebrate
00:28:21this unexpected news?
00:28:24Um, we're going to go out walk in the woods so that we don't have to
00:28:28answer the phone to be? We introduce you to an Estonian scientist
00:28:40who studied the genetic history of Munda and Austronesian
00:28:44language-speaking peoples.
00:29:03In today's foreign news, we can follow the rescue of a stray dog and
00:29:07an abandoned snow leopard cub.
00:29:09On Wednesday night, there wasn't a dry eye
00:29:13at Buenos Aires' Monumental Stadium, because
00:29:16football legend Lionel Messi played his last
00:29:20national team game for Argentina. This happened in a
00:29:24friendly match against Benin, where Messi converted
00:29:27a penalty in the 71st minute and thus secured a
00:29:303-0 victory. Of course. The celebration was grand both
00:29:34at the stadium and in the streets. Messi himself, however, said that he would like to play
00:29:37forever, because representing Argentina is the most beautiful
00:29:41thing that can happen to a person.
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