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00:00:0020 missiles per year, this is based on the example of 2025, and
00:00:03this is approximately 50-60
00:00:06missiles per month, meaning the enemy has over
00:00:09a hundred. Lockheed Martin 50-60, so even if
00:00:13the US and,
00:00:16at the direction of the Ukrainian president, were to transfer
00:00:19all the missiles they produce, it wouldn't be
00:00:23enough for us, and
00:00:26therefore, if there are any additional ones,
00:00:30the president spoke about this, the US representative
00:00:33to NATO spoke about this, and the sources are the current
00:00:37production, meaning the US can transfer some part of the
00:00:40current production, and also the stocks that are in partner
00:00:43countries, but objectively, they are already
00:00:47either unavailable due to being
00:00:50empty, or these countries simply
00:00:54have their own
00:00:56vision of assisting Ukraine, or rather, they don't even
00:01:00sell weapons to Ukraine, like South Korea,
00:01:03or they have legal restrictions, such as in Japan, which
00:01:07after the second war, after its capitulation, has very
00:01:10serious restrictions on the export of weapons, and even then, loopholes
00:01:14were found to help.
00:01:17And Taiwan, which also exploits,
00:01:20well, China's security situation is not such that
00:01:24Taip would likely reduce its stock
00:01:28levels.
00:01:31The Persian Gulf countries fired a huge
00:01:35number of them due to the war in Iran, well, with Iran,
00:01:38and most likely their arsenals
00:01:42have objectively reached their bottom. And
00:01:45European countries have been supporting
00:01:48us with Patriot missiles since 2023,
00:01:51and the latest transfer, for example, of five
00:01:54missiles from Poland caused a political scandal in Warsaw,
00:01:58and... and the US itself,
00:02:01well, Trump reportedly said that it is not
00:02:05a source, and objectively this is confirmed by the figures
00:02:08provided by American analytical structures regarding expenditures, because
00:02:12they calculated, in particular, this CIS, it
00:02:14calculated that the US most likely has
00:02:18approximately 800 missiles, Pac-3, for
00:02:21Patriot, which means approximately 13 for
00:02:24one launch, for one system out of 60 available,
00:02:28that is, this is to load two launchers completely for one
00:02:32system, and therefore, when Ukraine asks for 300
00:02:35missiles, then if indeed there are
00:02:38800 left, that's almost 40%.
00:02:42Regarding these Pac-3 licenses, we have already talked a lot this
00:02:46week about the fact that even if we were given this license,
00:02:49it would be extremely difficult to implement, even such a technologically advanced
00:02:53country as Japan, it took them several years to launch
00:02:57the production process. And why are these
00:03:00missiles so complex, can we bypass this
00:03:03technological threshold to shoot down ballistic missiles? All those
00:03:07announcements about some Project Freya, about some interceptors
00:03:10of Ukrainian production, our own anti-ballistic missiles, well,
00:03:13recently it was a very popular topic, what happened to it generally,
00:03:16why are we not talking about it anymore? Nothing happened, it is
00:03:20developing. Regarding Freya, the deadlines have even shifted
00:03:23in the other direction, they have become more
00:03:26recent. In particular, in the leadership
00:03:30of Firepoint, in one of the recent interviews,
00:03:33they are very actively selling them, I don't even remember the specific
00:03:37publication, but it was announced that
00:03:41the missile should go to tests with interception
00:03:44of ballistic targets in July, well, by
00:03:48July 2027, mhm, that is, in
00:03:51a year it will already go to tests, and
00:03:54it should be noted immediately that Firepoint does not compare
00:03:58its missile
00:04:01fp7.x with Pac-3
00:04:04MSE. In one of the interviews, it was also explained
00:04:08that at the first stage, that is, when it will have the first
00:04:12such cycle, the first iteration, conditional Block
00:04:15One, then well, it will definitely correspond to
00:04:19the Pac-2 GMT missile, the one that can only hit
00:04:23a ballistic target and there is no hit-to-kill technology, well, and
00:04:26objectively, on a missile that is based on 48-N6 from
00:04:30the S-300 and S-400 complex, even Soviet, that is, well,
00:04:33it has the same aerodynamic shape, concept, layout, there
00:04:37are other materials, other solid fuel, other electronics, but
00:04:40conceptually it is 48.6, so it was difficult
00:04:43to expect hit-to- kill technology, kinetic
00:04:46destruction of the warhead in the air along with the ballistic
00:04:49missile. So, in the summer of 2027, the
00:04:52Freya
00:04:55missile will go to tests, and we need to add time to this
00:04:59term. It will take time to complete
00:05:01the tests,
00:05:03and the start of production and production of not only missiles, here
00:05:07we are only partially dependent on supplies from
00:05:11European partners, because... for example, the homing head, at least
00:05:14now it is being considered as
00:05:17a cooperation with the company Diehl, that is, it will
00:05:20depend on the German company Diehl Defense how many missiles we can
00:05:24produce, how many homing heads they supply, how many missiles we can
00:05:28physically make, and it will depend on all European partners
00:05:31how many complexes we can make, because all the
00:05:35PLS for this complex, the command post, this
00:05:38is the partners' parish, and only
00:05:41after everything goes into production,
00:05:45that is, the first complex is produced,
00:05:48yes, we must understand that there will be many, many more
00:05:52than one complex, and then the issue of producing these
00:05:55missiles, which will be at the level of
00:05:58Pac-2 GMT at the first stage, at least,
00:06:01and here the question is the quantity of these missiles, so
00:06:05Freya can never be considered as
00:06:09a solution for tomorrow, for this winter.
00:06:12And what are the solutions we have for this winter, or will we be able to have our own,
00:06:15perhaps ballistic, by the end of the year? We had many
00:06:18announcements?
00:06:21Well, unfortunately, I really hope that the Firepoint
00:06:25company has changed their
00:06:28vision, but the last time the question of FP7 was raised,
00:06:31I remind you, according to the company's declarations, it was supposed to go
00:06:35for codification last winter,
00:06:38which was half a year ago, and in the summer...
00:06:46FP9 was supposed to go for codification, but apparently the deadlines
00:06:49are shifting to the right, so regarding FP7, there was such
00:06:53a, well, I can probably say a strange phrase regarding
00:06:56the fact that this missile is not needed, because it is expensive
00:07:00and flies a short
00:07:01distance.
00:07:05Well, let's say, I think that maybe
00:07:08now it will
00:07:10be redone, but either this phrase was made from the point
00:07:14of view of information security, only practice will
00:07:17show, but in Ukraine, it is known, that is, again,
00:07:21from public interviews, how many times officials have said
00:07:24that at least two projects exist, these are
00:07:28Firepoint ballistic missiles and it is known
00:07:31from Yuzhnoye Design Bureau, this is Sapsan, but
00:07:35probably, when we finally hear the howling from
00:07:38the swamps that these missiles are actively being used, then we can
00:07:42say that we have them in sufficient quantities, until
00:07:45then, well, we hope that this will
00:07:49happen. Let's talk about Sapsan, about this missile, a little more, I
00:07:52think we know more about it, what can we say about it with the latest
00:07:56information, how prospective
00:07:57is this development?
00:08:00It has remained prospective for over 10 years, this
00:08:04says a lot. In particular, about the fact that this
00:08:08prospect is not visible in the near future.
00:08:14Objectively, I simply prefer to talk about Ukrainian
00:08:17ballistics already based on the fact that howling has begun in the swamps
00:08:20that Ukraine is using some ballistic missiles, because
00:08:24in this case, when we discuss what
00:08:28we should have in our
00:08:30arsenal, actually for a long time,
00:08:34nothing changes, that is, ballistics is actually, again, one must
00:08:38understand that this is a complex topic, as soon as Ukraine develops and begins
00:08:42the production of ballistic missiles, we will be the first in
00:08:45Europe to produce operational-tactical
00:08:49ballistic missiles, no one
00:08:52in Europe produces them, that's just the reality in
00:08:55the world, that is, when we complain,
00:08:59whine, perhaps blame
00:09:02our designers, developers, or whoever,
00:09:06where are they, well, in reality, one just needs to understand that it's
00:09:09difficult, really difficult, and all of Europe, from
00:09:13Portugal, to there, if you take the European segment
00:09:16of NATO, there's Great Britain, there's Poland, everything else, all these countries,
00:09:20there are no ballistic missiles, just as a class, everything
00:09:24that exists are intercontinental ballistic missiles in
00:09:27homeopathic quantities in France, but these missiles are designed
00:09:31for nuclear submarines and are supposed to carry nuclear warheads, their
00:09:34use will only happen when France no longer exists, that is,
00:09:38this is not the weapon that is for a war like the one with the Russian
00:09:41Federation now.
00:09:44And France itself, which had, by the way, an excellent project
00:09:47of operational-analytical missile complexes,
00:09:50ayt, unfortunately, I cannot say how it is pronounced in French, but
00:09:54this is precisely the example, so they chopped them up in the
00:09:5790s, and they have not developed
00:10:01anything new, and now they are only creating a medium-range ballistic missile,
00:10:05well, obviously for a nuclear warhead, and
00:10:08this will be created somewhere in the 2030s, mhm.
00:10:25or Iranian missiles, then we encounter the fact that it's
00:10:28always a re-engineering of some old, sufficiently Soviet or
00:10:32Russian missile. Why can't
00:10:34we go this way, for example, I don't know, get
00:10:37blueprints, so to speak, of the missile that the French cut up,
00:10:41as you say, for scrap metal, and just launch it,
00:10:44rethink it,
00:10:47resume this production, this is the first and second question, of course, regarding
00:10:50this Korean threat, you probably saw the Reuters
00:10:54publication. About the possibility of 120 missiles being deployed on
00:10:57the border with ballistic missile operators from North
00:11:01Korea.
00:11:03Well, I strongly disagree with the statement regarding old
00:11:07Soviet developments, the thing is, if we are talking about the same
00:11:11KN-23s that have already been used in Ukraine, then it's an
00:11:15Iskander, mhm,
00:11:17mm, using technologies available to the DPRK, on
00:11:21a technological base that is available, which
00:11:24is, well, very far behind what the Russian Federation
00:11:28can do, so these KN-23s are much less
00:11:31accurate, and even the direct involvement of
00:11:34Russian specialists did not help, considering the data
00:11:38regarding the accuracy of their strikes, and even the new
00:11:40missiles, the new ones, which were
00:11:43produced under the new
00:11:46order. Therefore, KN-23 is definitely not
00:11:49about Soviet, it's specifically about
00:11:53using technologies. from Iskander
00:11:56regarding Iranian ones,
00:11:59well, here we must remember that
00:12:02Iran is a country that is
00:12:06a bit big, let's say, to put it mildly, a country
00:12:10that had a strategic
00:12:13national program for creating ballistic
00:12:16weapons, and also received assistance from
00:12:19the DPRK at one time,
00:12:22after the collapse of the Soviet Union, I am sure... directly from
00:12:25Russian specialists, who helped them in many ways, back in the
00:12:2990s, 2000s, 2010s,
00:12:33and now, even Americans complain that their
00:12:37missiles have started to break through Patriot more often, and
00:12:41something similar happened with Iskanders,
00:12:44that is, the direct involvement of Russian specialists in the modernization of Iranian
00:12:48missiles, well, I would say it's highly
00:12:51probable, therefore...
00:12:55So the question is, why, for example, is there nothing in Ukraine? Well, because it must
00:12:58be and should have been a national strategic
00:13:01program that would have involved investing
00:13:04huge funds, it would have lasted approximately
00:13:0810 years with maximum assistance, that is, we need to
00:13:12go back to at least 2016
00:13:15to have it today, and it would be better to go back to 2012,
00:13:19and we need to understand
00:13:22that so many. I didn't want Ukraine to
00:13:26receive ballistic missiles, as in
00:13:29Europe at one time, why there are no ballistic missiles in Europe either, this is
00:13:32a very interesting question, by the way, and the answer to it
00:13:36lies in the question of why the US took away from
00:13:39the German army the Pershing missiles that were part of
00:13:42the Bundeswehr in the 90s. Very little time left,
00:13:46finally, if you can briefly comment, I saw that in
00:13:48an interview with Dmitry Gordon, Mr.
00:13:52Stilerman said
00:13:55that this Russian analogue of
00:13:57Starlink, this "Rassvet" satellite system, is not
00:14:01a big threat, as they are quite easy to
00:14:03shoot down.
00:14:06Firepoint company will be, if I'm sure that
00:14:09if the general designer
00:14:12of the company, well, the chief designer of the
00:14:15Firepoint company knows
00:14:18and can create means for
00:14:21shooting down a target that moves at a speed of approximately
00:14:257.5 km per second at an altitude of over
00:14:28500 km, then creating a ballistic missile FP7
00:14:32to destroy and for counter-battery combat with Iskander is
00:14:36a simple task for him. Let's hope so.
00:14:39Thank you for the conversation and this answer. Oleh Katkov,
00:14:41editor-in-chief of Defense Express, was with us. Well, and we will
00:14:45continue military topics now, and also, how we can
00:14:49actually help the army,
00:14:52the military-industrial complex, in order to, after all, get
00:14:55the necessary weapons, in particular, I remind you that back in
00:14:592024, we had promises and President Zelensky said,
00:15:02President and then Prime Minister
00:15:05Shmyhal, that we would have
00:15:08300 missiles produced by the end of 2025,
00:15:12throughout 2025. We know that this did not happen, unfortunately.
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00:19:34Today Europe, Poland, Ukraine. found themselves at the center
00:19:38of geopolitical challenges. The Kremlin attacks Ukraine with drones and
00:19:41missiles, tanks, in Europe - with fakes and sabotage, to sow
00:19:45fear and divide Europeans. This can be called a decisive moment in our
00:19:49common history, how we will react to it, how we will
00:19:53understand it, depends on our victory, our development, our
00:19:55survival. And Ukraine today is the center
00:19:59of Europe, and together with our partners, Poland holds a key place
00:20:02among them, we will restrain the Kremlin's invasion.
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00:20:22On the line of contact and in the enemy's rear.
00:20:25The enemy will not understand where death came from.
00:20:29Special Operations Forces are always beyond
00:20:31the limit.
00:20:42On the line of contact and in the enemy's rear,
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00:20:47came from. Special Operations Forces
00:20:51are always beyond the limit.
00:20:54There was also a statement at the end of 2025, I believe,
00:20:57by President Zelensky, that we will invest 35
00:21:00billion dollars in the production of our own
00:21:04missiles and drones in 2026. We have already passed
00:21:07half a year, and perhaps we can make intermediate
00:21:11conclusions, because, you know, even if we proceed from the cost of 3
00:21:14million dollars, which is the average estimated cost of a Russian
00:21:18ballistic missile, then... Even if we assume that only half
00:21:22of this amount, say, 18 billion, was spent on
00:21:25this, then it would mean let's calculate,
00:21:28how many, 600 ballistic missiles. I think that not much
00:21:32would be left of Russia at such rates. Why has this not
00:21:35happened yet? We will try to discuss this with Ilya Neskhodovsky,
00:21:39serviceman of the 24th Separate Mechanized Brigade, freelance expert
00:21:43of the National Interests Protection
00:21:50Hello, everyone. Well, I
00:21:54will return to this question again. In your opinion, why was it not possible to
00:21:57produce 300 missiles in 2025,
00:22:00and what needs to be done, what conclusions can be drawn
00:22:04to make it happen this year, or at least
00:22:07next year?
00:22:11Well, first, I will say that
00:22:14I will not express myself, I do not know at what stage those or other
00:22:18times were, but of course.
00:22:20Well, simple logic, it basically gives
00:22:23such an answer that Ukraine had
00:22:27rocket developments, they were quite
00:22:30promising, which passed certain
00:22:33tests, we had a sufficiently powerful
00:22:37design potential, and
00:22:39investing in this direction, because these people
00:22:43were without money, without work, without
00:22:47state orders, and well, the
00:22:50result, well, the matter did not
00:22:53move forward, but for some
00:22:56reasons, although we guess for what reasons, the emphasis
00:23:00was placed on developing missiles
00:23:03from scratch, and this development of missiles
00:23:07from scratch, that is, led to the fact that this
00:23:11process objectively
00:23:14takes a sufficiently long time, there are many
00:23:17statements from the chief
00:23:20designer of a well-known company, who just
00:23:22promises to hit Moscow, and hit there at 1000
00:23:26km and all the rest, but
00:23:29so far these are only statements, only a few
00:23:32hits we can observe and confirm
00:23:35that it was indeed carried out
00:23:37by a missile, other
00:23:41hits are quite low, that is, the statements
00:23:44diverge from the actual result, so the process
00:23:47drags on because...
00:23:50for some reason, the emphasis was placed on new development,
00:23:53the fact that this manufacturer really produces
00:23:57sufficiently effective drones, which
00:24:00have corresponding hits, which
00:24:03indeed inflict significant damage on the enemy, this
00:24:06is undeniable, but these are completely different technologies,
00:24:10comparing missiles and comparing
00:24:14drones, well, it's I don't even know how to
00:24:18compare them, a hybrid
00:24:30car, please, because missiles are quite complex, it's not just to launch
00:24:34and fly, what to launch and fly, he said in one interview
00:24:38that it was known to the Germans during the Second World
00:24:41War, so indeed, that is, it was known back
00:24:45then, but now it's about
00:24:48guidance, and about maneuvering, and
00:24:51about targeting, these are all
00:24:55quite complex technological
00:24:58parts, and therefore, to compare them or transfer them,
00:25:02for example, from a drone to a missile, well, it doesn't
00:25:05work out, so we are accordingly waiting for
00:25:08these millions of promises to turn into at least 10%
00:25:12real results of hits,
00:25:15in my opinion, this was one of the... we will talk about a certain
00:25:19political obstacle, due to the fact that the Minister
00:25:23of Defense Fedorov, accordingly,
00:25:25who is now in retirement, introduced
00:25:27into the system evaluation not by promises, but by
00:25:31results, accordingly, and the
00:25:34orders that the Ministry of
00:25:37Defense placed changed
00:25:40significantly, and as a result, many did not
00:25:44like it, that is, big money became the reason for this resignation,
00:25:48in what, about which he basically spoke with...
00:25:53In your opinion, how big is this corruption
00:25:56margin that can be hidden in
00:26:00all these current defense orders, how much
00:26:03can it affect defense capability?
00:26:06Look, I
00:26:10wouldn't say corruption margin, what
00:26:13is laid in the
00:26:17possible earnings, accordingly, you developed something
00:26:21unique, unique and very effective, it
00:26:25really does not cost tens of thousands
00:26:28of dollars, its production may
00:26:31only cost a couple of thousand
00:26:34dollars, but if your means
00:26:38are effective, then in that case, you can
00:26:41order it in sufficiently large volumes and
00:26:45even with a large network, but this is not a corruption
00:26:48margin, but if you
00:26:51know that your tool is no better than
00:26:54another, that is, it shows the same
00:26:57effectiveness, and the volumes
00:27:00of purchases are not because of the price, on the contrary, the price
00:27:04of your product is higher than
00:27:07the product of your competitors, then in
00:27:10such a case, and you negotiate
00:27:13through your personal acquaintances with the Minister
00:27:17of Defense, you negotiate with
00:27:20other leaders of relevant structural
00:27:23units, then the question arises: this
00:27:26is a corruption network, when the choice
00:27:29is made not in favor of effectiveness.
00:27:32in favor of other interests in the purchase of certain
00:27:36products, what volume, and
00:27:39again, I emphasize, it is difficult
00:27:41to say,
00:27:44and to a person who, who, who is on the front, it doesn't
00:27:47matter how much that
00:27:51tool cost, which helps him
00:27:53fight, he doesn't care
00:27:57how much the state, what paths it has taken, who is
00:28:01the developer. The main thing is that it
00:28:04works effectively, and if it works
00:28:08effectively, then in such a case, the soldier
00:28:11receives proper, appropriate
00:28:14provision, military provision, with which he can
00:28:17fight, but when this does not happen, when
00:28:21the tool that is bought breaks in your
00:28:23hands, which harms
00:28:27health, and possibly takes the lives of your
00:28:30brothers-in-arms, then... this is exactly what
00:28:33corruption is, corruption that is paid quite dearly,
00:28:37so I would like competition to be something
00:28:41more market-driven in
00:28:43terms of provision, and orders,
00:28:46that is, determined by
00:28:49effectiveness, the more effective one or another
00:28:52product is, the more
00:28:55orders it will receive, what volumes, well, as
00:28:58for me, based on certain
00:29:02estimates... you need to understand that some constructive changes need to be made to some
00:29:04product, and then the price can double,
00:29:08so it's very difficult
00:29:12to estimate here, that is, it's important not to look at the past, as
00:29:15for me, but now to ensure
00:29:18the purchase of the most effective means, which
00:29:22are effective both on the front, as in anti-missile, anti-drone
00:29:25defense, and in all
00:29:29deep strikes that Ukraine carries out against the enemy.
00:29:32Effectiveness must be in the first place, whoever
00:29:35is effective, gets more orders, and then,
00:29:39if we start to deal with the past, well, we might lose the war
00:29:43badly. You know that
00:29:46there is an example of the United States, which, I don't remember,
00:29:50for how many, 15 years or more, cannot choose a standard
00:29:53pistol for their officers,
00:29:56servicemen, they conduct dozens
00:29:59of competitions every year, they lean towards... a Swiss
00:30:03model, then a second one, then some other, and
00:30:06it takes an extremely long time, but they have time, they
00:30:10have weapons that work normally, we don't
00:30:14have time, and how to combine the need to make
00:30:17quick effective decisions, and the fact that
00:30:21behind every decision there can be some conditional bribe,
00:30:24back office and and this kickback into some
00:30:28billions.
00:30:32What Fedorov introduced, he introduced a system,
00:30:36where you cannot realize your personal
00:30:39interest, there is statistics, statistics
00:30:43of hits, there is accordingly, you know
00:30:46who, you know what product, you have
00:30:49documentary video, you have
00:30:52video confirmation of hits and you
00:30:55see what the effectiveness of these hits is, he
00:30:58actually destroyed it.