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00:00:00they are also not from what we remember
00:00:03this, this, as he would say, theater or also drama in several
00:00:07acts, we remember that well, they will also
00:00:11not be there, so there is no alternative, I
00:00:13understand well, well, there is an alternative, but
00:00:17it, you know, it's so uncertain, we
00:00:21expect to receive, at any rate, it was ordered, we were
00:00:24promised eight complexes SAMP/T next
00:00:28generation, but so far... the original
00:00:31Sam-T complex did not show the ability
00:00:35to shoot down ballistic missiles in the appropriate
00:00:38manner, and the
00:00:41Next Generation complex, because its improved
00:00:44model, is only expected to start combat tests
00:00:48in Ukraine in the summer, and we still need to be
00:00:52sure that the developers of this
00:00:55complex managed to overcome the problems with shooting down
00:00:59ballistic missiles. So far, to answer
00:01:02your question clearly, there is no
00:01:05alternative to PAC-3. Well, but when we talk about our
00:01:08pro-Ukrainian anti-ballistic missile system, of course, everyone
00:01:12is waiting for it, and it is known that the tests, the actual
00:01:15Freya, with the interception of ballistic targets, are expected only
00:01:19in the middle of next year. In fact, I want to ask
00:01:22what else we are lacking, how much time is needed for
00:01:26this missile to already be
00:01:29in service. for the defenders
00:01:30of the sky,
00:01:34it's hard to say, you understand, it's
00:01:37the development of a missile, I think that this
00:01:40missile is a very distant future,
00:01:43uh, well, let's say its mass production
00:01:46will be established in, according to my
00:01:49optimistic expectations, it's somewhere
00:01:52in 2028 2029,
00:01:55no earlier, because you
00:01:58see that all over the world... only the largest
00:02:01arms company, such as Lockheed Martin, managed
00:02:05to develop an anti-ballistic missile
00:02:07interceptor capable of shooting down with a direct
00:02:11hit, that is, it took years and
00:02:14the development lasted, well, let's say a decade, or
00:02:18two, at least 20 years, until
00:02:21they actually reached the method, until they implemented this
00:02:24method, well, I understand that we
00:02:27are developing our missile based on...
00:02:31Soviet anti-aircraft missiles, we
00:02:33use experience and use, well, not experience, but rather
00:02:37components of missiles, anti-aircraft missiles
00:02:40from our allies, but still integrating
00:02:44all this into a missile system, this is quite a difficult
00:02:47task, moreover, in the conditions
00:02:51of present-day Ukraine, when any enterprise,
00:02:54any factory, any, so to speak, city in
00:02:57Ukraine can be... attacked
00:03:00at any moment, and this also
00:03:04by no means contributes to the rapid
00:03:06development of any means of destruction, well, but what should
00:03:10Ukraine do next, because we understand that
00:03:12there are not enough interceptor missiles for Patriots, whether
00:03:16we can get them now is a big
00:03:19question, so how exactly can Ukraine
00:03:21defend itself?
00:03:25well, first of all, it's not about defending,
00:03:27but attacking, in my
00:03:30opinion, we have already
00:03:32worked, inflicted quite successful
00:03:36strikes on the launch installations
00:03:38of complexes, well, these Russian missile brigades,
00:03:42armed with Iskander complexes,
00:03:45at least two or three launchers have been destroyed, and several
00:03:49more have been damaged, in addition , strikes can be launched at
00:03:52various types of warehouses, where these
00:03:55missiles are delivered from enterprises, well, army-level
00:03:58warehouses,
00:04:01army group level, there is Russia Center, Army Group Center,
00:04:05there are similar such army groups, so
00:04:07finally, strikes can be launched at factories, manufacturers,
00:04:11which shows quite high effectiveness, especially if
00:04:15we use, you are now showing Flamingo
00:04:18missiles, which are capable of carrying over a
00:04:21ton of explosives, and one such hit is enough to
00:04:25destroy a workshop, and if the workshop is critical for
00:04:28production, this... stops the production
00:04:31of missiles. Well, that is, if active
00:04:34methods are used, they will all be, well,
00:04:38100% more effective than
00:04:40waiting for some minimal supplies
00:04:44of interceptor missiles, because according to statistics,
00:04:48even having interceptor missiles, we are capable
00:04:51of shooting down one out of three launched
00:04:54missiles. And a strike on an enterprise, on a limited
00:04:58number of enterprises, because... for example, Russian ballistic
00:05:01missiles are produced by two enterprises, Zircon missiles -
00:05:05one enterprise, and plus in the technological
00:05:08chain, two factories are involved that produce.
00:05:12Solid-fuel engines, well, and it is certainly
00:05:16necessary to continue strikes on enterprises that produce
00:05:20radio electronics, because the main
00:05:24part of radio electronics, and other components, are of Russian
00:05:28production in these ballistic missiles, and strikes on
00:05:32Belgorod, there, Kremniy La or on
00:05:35Zelenograd, where the main
00:05:39capacities of Russian radio-electronic
00:05:44industry are produced, they also significantly affect missile production. Well, let's see,
00:05:47in April, HUR
00:05:51informed us that the Russians are capable of producing 60
00:05:55missiles per month, ballistic Iskander-M.
00:05:57In July, this figure already fell in the same
00:06:01HUR reports to 50 missiles per
00:06:05month. This is after we actively launched strikes
00:06:08on enterprises, warehouses, and launch installations.
00:06:12That is, the effectiveness of the active method of fighting
00:06:15Russian missiles has been confirmed, and this
00:06:19needs to be scaled up, that is, all hope is in
00:06:23ballistic missiles, I understand you well, Mr. Valeriy, because
00:06:26with drones, of course, you can't inflict good
00:06:30strikes, but when a ballistic missile arrives, there's nothing left to pick
00:06:33up, unfortunately, we don't have
00:06:36ballistic missiles as such, only
00:06:40two types of missiles are being tested in PC
00:06:42P-9, and Flamingo is a cruise missile,
00:06:46and cruise missiles, of course, like Russian
00:06:50cruise missiles, will suffer losses from Russian
00:06:53air defense, they are not as,
00:06:56let's say, effective during,
00:06:59well, Russian defense,
00:07:03is much more effective against cruise missiles, they will suffer
00:07:06losses, but the use of one such
00:07:09missile, I repeat, it... with a successful
00:07:13hit, can put an entire factory out of action, if it hits a critical
00:07:16workshop, so the use
00:07:19of powerful cruise missiles can significantly affect the situation,
00:07:23well, and besides, drones
00:07:26can be used to destroy Russian radio electronics
00:07:29enterprises, which are less protected than missile
00:07:32enterprises.
00:07:35Thank you for your comments for this conversation, Valeriy Romanenko,
00:07:38aviation expert, leading research fellow at the National Aviation
00:07:42University was with us live.
00:07:44The future of American military
00:07:52presence in European Union countries remains
00:07:55a subject of discussion. Political scientist and international security expert
00:07:59Fabrice Pothier believes that in this situation, the EU already
00:08:02needs to strengthen its own defense capabilities
00:08:06and be ready to independently resist possible Russian
00:08:09aggression. He shared this opinion... He
00:08:12shared this opinion on the World Talks program of TVP
00:08:16World.
00:08:19The American presence in Europe will be smaller. The question is only how
00:08:23exactly. Therefore, the best thing we can do, while the final results of this
00:08:27review are not yet known, is to create such defense capabilities and such
00:08:30key capabilities that will allow Europe to independently ensure
00:08:34its own security. This is not just about tanks or missiles. First of all, it's
00:08:38satellite systems, high-precision, long-range strikes, air
00:08:41defense, strategic military transport aviation, all that
00:08:44where today the main supplier remains the United States, and
00:08:47Europe still plays a secondary role. This is where we finally
00:08:51need to get things in order and significantly strengthen our own capabilities. Then we
00:08:54will be able to build more equal relations with the United States and be able
00:08:58to defend Europe with our own forces. Frankly, everything else
00:09:01is just speculation for now. The United States, which previously remained committed
00:09:05to Europe's security. It is also worth remembering the American guarantees
00:09:09of extended nuclear deterrence, which extends to the entire NATO
00:09:13alliance, so I do not believe that there are critical gaps in deterrence now,
00:09:16but we see something else, in the coming years Europe must learn
00:09:20to independently conduct complex military operations in response to possible
00:09:23Russian aggression, even if American troops continue
00:09:27to remain in the European theater, so we work
00:09:30based on the best scenario: Europe must be
00:09:33able to act without the help of the United
00:09:35States.
00:09:39The Minister of Interior of the German state of Saxony, ArminSch.
00:10:55and how would you comment on this silence, because silence is also
00:10:58a communicator? Well, of course, the problem is big, I
00:11:02think that both the NATO Secretary General and, of course,
00:11:05the leaders of our European allies, other
00:11:09allies, know about it, but the problem is what they can do about
00:11:12this problem, because there is a mechanism
00:11:16called Pearl, through which interceptors for Patriot
00:11:20missiles are transferred to us, which European
00:11:24allies buy from... the United States, I know that the Secretary General, in
00:11:28principle, NATO is actively working on this program, but
00:11:31the question is whether there are enough interceptors now
00:11:34that can, in principle, be bought and that can
00:11:38be transferred to Ukraine, because of course, Donald Trump
00:11:41denies that there is a deficit in the United States, but we
00:11:45see, in principle, from what is happening, that
00:11:49this is indeed the case, we see in what quantities these interceptors
00:11:52were used in...
00:11:55in the Middle East, and we understand that indeed they
00:11:58are becoming fewer and fewer, and countries are less
00:12:01willing to share them, so I
00:12:05think that, of course, there will still be some
00:12:08attempts by our European partners to find
00:12:12some opportunities, but these are isolated steps,
00:12:15because in July, for example, 126
00:12:19ballistic missiles were launched by Russia
00:12:22in strikes against Ukraine.
00:12:25if we talk about interceptors, we need
00:12:28at least two for each of these missiles, that is, we are talking about more
00:12:31than 250 interceptors that we need per
00:12:34month, and preferably more, such
00:12:37scale of assistance is not available, because it is necessary
00:12:40to understand that when partners provided us with assistance, it was
00:12:445-10 interceptors,
00:12:4730 interceptors at once, that is, it is not on
00:12:50the scale that Ukraine currently needs,
00:12:52and of course...
00:12:55production is also not on that scale, so
00:12:59of course, I think our partners will
00:13:02try to find solutions, but we are also currently trying to launch
00:13:06this program together with European
00:13:10partners, the Freya anti-ballistic program, but this is all
00:13:13long-term, our expert Valeriy Romanenko just talked about this, that
00:13:17if Freya appears in 2028, it will be a great
00:13:21success, and in fact, on the eve of this, Volodymyr Zelenskyy spoke with the Secretary General
00:13:25of NATO and Mark Rutte promised that he would
00:13:28work with allies, they understand the problem that we
00:13:32have nothing to defend our peaceful places, cities, but
00:13:35here the question is different: Volodymyr Zelenskyy said that
00:13:39Patriot missiles can become such
00:13:42a factor of political pressure on Kyiv during
00:13:45negotiations, do you see any signs or prerequisites for this to
00:13:49happen exactly?
00:13:52Yes, unfortunately, unfortunately, I do, because firstly, we see
00:13:55that Russia is increasing the production of ballistic missiles,
00:13:58and we also see signals that Russia
00:14:02is now receiving ballistic missile supplies from North
00:14:06Korea, we are talking about 40 additional ones now, and
00:14:09this support should be increased, well,
00:14:13from the side of North Korea to 120
00:14:15missiles, that is, again, we are talking about large numbers,
00:14:19these are missiles that can cause us a lot of
00:14:22harm, and this is the...
00:14:25let's say, that weak side of ours that
00:14:28Russia will use, we see that month after month
00:14:32they are increasing these capabilities,
00:14:35understanding that, that indeed there is simply no physical
00:14:38possibility for Ukraine to receive these interceptors in such quantities
00:14:42, of course, we, I hope that we will have
00:14:45certain capabilities, at least to intercept some of these
00:14:49ballistic missiles selectively, but not
00:14:52on this scale, and if we talk... about the fact that we
00:14:56are entering autumn, then winter, then this indeed
00:15:00can become that element of pressure that
00:15:03Russia will use, because they actually have no other elements of pressure
00:15:07on Ukraine, this is the only such weak side that
00:15:10they will, that they will use, but
00:15:14President Zelenskyy said, we heard that
00:15:18Western partners, according to the quote,
00:15:21have Patriot-3 missiles in warehouses.
00:15:25But, in that case, why don't these partners provide them to
00:15:29Ukraine? Yes, Western partners do have them, in
00:15:33principle, they are located in various parts
00:15:36of the world. Of course, they are in the United States, as we mentioned, they
00:15:40are in countries
00:15:43in the Middle East, the Persian Gulf, they are in
00:15:47countries in the Indo-Pacific,
00:15:50the Pacific region, and they are in
00:15:53European partners, but among them, European partners are
00:15:57those who can still support us,
00:16:01but here the problem is in the quantities, as
00:16:05I mentioned, so that simply... well, some
00:16:08partners do not have them in the quantities that would be needed
00:16:12by us, that is, countries probably can
00:16:15provide some 5-10
00:16:18interceptors, but again, over these
00:16:21years, their certain
00:16:24resources are also being depleted, for example, the Netherlands recently in
00:16:28July stated that they simply exhausted all possibilities
00:16:31to provide, and therefore, another problem,
00:16:35as we discussed, is that hybrid attacks against European
00:16:38countries are also intensifying, and therefore they also
00:16:41want to keep these reserves for themselves, and here
00:16:45the question, of course, is what is a priority, well, in my opinion, of course,
00:16:48helping Ukraine now is more important, but
00:16:52for politicians of certain countries, the decision to hold onto these reserves for
00:16:56themselves may be more, so to speak, important
00:17:00for their society, how to explain that we are giving away,
00:17:03well, resources that are already depleted, here also the problem...
00:17:07of production of new, new interceptors, because,
00:17:11for example, there is a program under which European
00:17:14partners give their own and then receive guarantees
00:17:18that they will be earlier in the queue for receiving new products from
00:17:21the United States, but if currently the production from the United
00:17:25States is about 50 Patriot-3
00:17:28missiles per month, that is, until
00:17:31the scale of this production grows, countries will also
00:17:35be afraid that they will not receive them on time, because they are already waiting
00:17:39for several years, therefore, well, of course, this is a political decision, and
00:17:42I hope that there is an understanding among European partners that Ukraine's
00:17:46security is their security, and it is necessary to help Ukraine
00:17:49now, because, well, this, this threat for them may be
00:17:53in the future, however, this is always a question of what is
00:17:57their own security for individual countries. Well, and indeed, the fact that
00:18:01Russia is deepening, intensifying hybrid attacks on European
00:18:04countries, this also makes them think about the fact that more
00:18:08weapons need to be preserved, possibly for themselves, so that in case
00:18:11of anything they have something to defend themselves with. Thank you for this conversation, Iryna
00:18:15Krasnoshtan, program, program director of the International
00:18:18Center for Ukrainian Victory, expert on Ukraine-NATO issues, former
00:18:22political politician, NATO Representative in
00:18:25Ukraine. Thank you. Thank
00:18:26you.
00:18:29New in politics, tough in his decisions and sensitive to historical
00:18:32topics. These words can describe the current President of Poland, Karol
00:18:36Nawrocki. Exactly one year ago, after winning the presidential
00:18:40elections, he took the oath to the nation. What did
00:18:43the leader of the neighboring country remember during this
00:18:46period? Watch in the next
00:18:53report. August 6,
00:18:562025 Karol Nawrocki with his wife Marta
00:18:59cross the threshold of the plenary hall of the Sejm after the solemn
00:19:03performance of the anthem. The newly elected President of Poland takes
00:19:06the oath. Solemnly
00:19:45swears. an independent candidate, supported by the Law and Justice party, won the second round of elections in June 2025. Before
00:19:49entering politics, he headed the Institute of National Remembrance, and
00:19:52conducted his campaign under the slogan "Poland first,
00:19:56Poles first." I believe in Poland and I will fight
00:20:00for it. I can say with full responsibility
00:20:03that I am ready to represent all
00:20:06Poles. gathered voters around him with
00:20:10rhetoric regarding Ukraine, declared a tough stance towards Kyiv,
00:20:14advocated limiting social support for war migrants, and
00:20:17questioned the Euro-Atlantic prospects of our
00:20:21state. As of now, I do not see
00:20:24Ukraine as either a member of the EU or NATO. A country
00:20:28that is unable to answer for a very cruel crime against
00:20:31120 thousand of its neighbors cannot be
00:20:35part of international alliances. There
00:20:38were also public scandals around his person, the
00:20:41media wrote about connections with football fans and accused him of working for
00:20:45a security company that allegedly escorted prostitutes. Nawrocki
00:20:49himself called
00:20:50everything slander.
00:20:54After taking office, he set about fulfilling his promises. In August
00:20:582025, he vetoed amendments to the law that
00:21:01provided for social payments for children 800+ and
00:21:04the extension of temporary protection for Ukrainians. Instead,
00:21:08he proposed linking assistance to employment and
00:21:11compulsory schooling for children . During Volodymyr
00:21:15Zelenskyy's visit to Warsaw in December, he reproached the Ukrainian authorities for
00:21:19ingratitude. This once again earned him public favor. How
00:21:22Nawrocki intends to stand guard over
00:21:26the security of the state became known in March 2026.
00:21:29The president vetoed the European Defense
00:21:33Loan program, SAFE. Subsequently, the streets of Poland were flooded with protests, and
00:21:37the government had to look for plan
00:21:39B.
00:21:44In total, during his first year in office, the Polish president blocked a record
00:21:48number of laws, 41, and also stripped Volodymyr
00:21:51Zelenskyy of the Order of the White Eagle. The leaders managed
00:21:54to talk face-to-face again during the NATO summit in Ankara. However,
00:21:58regarding historical issues, according to Nawrocki himself,
00:22:01they failed to agree. I will add that despite
00:22:05waves of tension in Polish-Ukrainian relations, Nawrocki's position on
00:22:08Russia's war against Ukraine remains unchanged. He calls Putin
00:22:12a threat to Europe and calls for pressure on Moscow, and among
00:22:15the priorities of his first year in office are strengthening
00:22:19Poland's security, adjusting policy towards Ukraine,
00:22:22regional cooperation and aspirations for permanent membership
00:22:26in the G20. On July 29, sociologists
00:22:29Ibris conducted a survey, according to which the current
00:22:32president is trusted by over 51%
00:22:36of respondents. Yulia Hunko,
00:22:38glory. The Washington Post
00:22:41reported that US President Donald Trump last week
00:22:45demanded an explanation from Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth about
00:22:48why he... Apparently, regarding the acute shortage of ammunition, they were
00:22:52misled. Meanwhile, in
00:22:56Poland, a year has passed
00:22:58since Karol Nawrocki became President of Poland, and how
00:23:02have relations between our countries looked during
00:23:06that year of Karol
00:23:15Professor of Social Sciences. Former Minister of Foreign Affairs, let me correct
00:23:19you, yes.
00:24:20about the president's main role,
00:24:21which,
00:24:24and this is supremacy over the armed forces
00:24:27of Poland and representing Poland, that is, one should expect from him
00:24:31a policy that leads to increasing
00:24:34security, and here the role of cooperation with Ukraine is very
00:24:38important, because Ukraine has
00:24:42very important
00:24:44means, and
00:24:46experience,
00:25:02in matters of security between our states, yes, as if
00:25:06we could cooperate, that is, I blame
00:25:09his presidency for this,
00:25:12nevertheless, he should be given credit, well,
00:25:16considering the factors that you listed in...
00:25:20Ukrainian cooperation, we know that Poland was
00:25:23and remains Ukraine's main military
00:25:26and logistical partner, much has been done over the years
00:25:30in the matter of joint,
00:25:33resolving joint defense issues, but we actually see that
00:25:36historical issues have been hindering us recently, and according
00:25:40to a survey by Opinia 24, 44%
00:25:43of Poles said that resolving historical issues
00:25:46could hinder the continuation of military
00:25:50assistance to Ukraine, how do you think, does this
00:25:53topic of historical memory risk becoming a factor that will
00:25:57affect our security
00:25:58cooperation?
00:26:02This memory affects it, because this cooperation is not at the level it
00:26:06could be, but it seems to me that
00:26:09the last statements from President
00:26:13Zelenskyy
00:26:16and the president of the Institute of Remembrance indicate
00:26:19that understanding is possible, there
00:26:23is a decision of the president
00:26:26to conduct.
00:27:12a just war on the part of Ukraine,
00:27:16in order to push back the Russian
00:27:19aggressor, and this is a priority that should
00:27:21not disappear, this should be the main
00:27:25goal for the government for
00:27:34Ukraine, although both sides stated that
00:27:37there would be drone, drones, drone
00:27:41technologies, in exchange for Mig-29 aircraft, and
00:27:45nothing came of it, so far we see that some
00:27:48negotiations are underway, we, of course, do not know their
00:27:52final result, but nevertheless,
00:27:56it does not look like we all
00:27:59expected, well, I think
00:28:41it's very valuable if it's about
00:28:44countries near Iran, we need to
00:28:47appreciate this know-how, this
00:28:50knowledge, and other countries also cooperate, American
00:28:54enterprises also cooperate with Ukraine in
00:28:56that
00:28:59and we don't need to talk about this, that... we
00:29:03need to change this technology
00:29:06for old Soviet
00:29:10aircraft, MiGs can be donated,
00:29:14but
00:29:15secondly, what would be useful for both
00:29:19sides is access to
00:29:22technologies, but also stable cooperation, I believe that Poland should not
00:29:25rule out
00:29:27the presence of a stabilization
00:29:31mission. in Ukraine,
00:29:33Polish military
00:29:37needs to prepare, to
00:29:41to transfer knowledge from the war
00:29:44for the Polish army, as other countries
00:29:48do, we are behind, unfortunately, we are
00:29:50neighbors,
00:29:52and when it comes to cooperation, it doesn't look
00:29:56like the potential could indicate, there will be such an
00:30:00understanding between Poland...
00:30:13Here I also see a certain danger, because Ukraine needs
00:30:17access to Patriot technology,
00:30:20President Trump announced that he
00:30:24thinks, he thinks about providing such
00:30:27access, now he doesn't know, this
00:30:30is not...