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00:00:00what Olga Stefanishina could influence, in particular, this could probably be,
00:00:03according to the investigation and the Bureau of Economic
00:00:06Security and the National Anti-Corruption Bureau.
00:00:10Prosecutors also spoke about this, unfortunately, I didn't have time
00:00:14to hear, I was preparing for the broadcast, and
00:00:17I also want you to hear what Olga
00:00:20Stefanishina said before the break, because she says that
00:00:23she will gradually communicate with the
00:00:27media, and she respects what law enforcement
00:00:31agencies do, but she has the right to defense. Let's listen to the direct
00:00:34speech.
00:00:37I have no questions for myself, I
00:00:40absolutely with great respect relate to the fact that law enforcement
00:00:43agencies have and are obliged
00:00:47to monitor and ensure control over the activities of public
00:00:51officials, but I also draw your attention to the fact that I have
00:00:54the right to defense and will do so in court,
00:00:58relying on... impartial objective
00:01:01justice.
00:01:04Well, as for the court session, Andriy, I want to note that currently,
00:01:08according to my
00:01:11information,
00:01:13the prosecutor had the floor, he told other details of the case,
00:01:16after that, the defense should
00:01:19speak, then Olga Stefanishina herself, and
00:01:22only then will the court retire to the deliberation
00:01:25room. That is, it is probably safe to
00:01:28say that the judicial process will either drag
00:01:31on today until late at night, until curfew,
00:01:35or will be postponed to another
00:01:38day, I have such details from the High Anti-Corruption Court, here
00:01:41today they are choosing a preventive measure for the former ambassador
00:01:45to the United States, Olga Stefanishina. Dmytro,
00:01:48just one clarification, that is, theoretically, today Ms.
00:01:51Stefanishina has such a chance to spend the night
00:01:55in the pre-trial detention center, or is that not
00:01:58so?
00:02:01Most likely yes, perhaps the court will
00:02:04review and finish reviewing the case today, I also want to clarify
00:02:07that prosecutors are asking for
00:02:11the selection of a preventive measure, a measure of detention with
00:02:15an alternative of 13 million
00:02:18hryvnias. Uh-huh, this is important, a very detailed, thank you very much
00:02:22for this story, Dmytro Didora, our correspondent
00:02:25who is in Kyiv now at the court, where there is now...
00:02:28a break and we will have
00:02:32some decision today, or not, maybe tomorrow, but
00:02:36the court is considering the actual
00:02:40suspicion that was announced on Butasap regarding
00:02:43the ex-minister, ex-vice-premier,
00:02:47Olga Stefanishina, and until recently our
00:02:50ambassador to the United States, who just
00:02:54returned from the United States to
00:02:58actually,
00:03:00stand before the court that is considering this case, and there are very interesting
00:03:04details, however, I have already seen this at the Anti-Corruption Center,
00:03:07that she could influence the
00:03:10appointment
00:03:13of the head of NAPC, if this is indeed proven, we will,
00:03:16probably only assume, but that there may be
00:03:19additional accusations and suspicions
00:03:23considered in such a case, and this
00:03:26may also have consequences, probably, for the current leadership
00:03:31of NAPC, I think, I hope, that they will hold some briefing or
00:03:34press conference tomorrow and try to answer these
00:03:38quite shocking details that were announced today
00:03:41during the court hearing. Well, now we
00:03:44will try to talk about
00:03:48missiles in general, missiles are currently the main topic for
00:03:51us, can we repel
00:03:55the enemy, in fact, the best defense is, as
00:03:58is known, an attack. Can we destroy Russian capabilities, produce
00:04:02ballistic missiles, what should we do with those
00:04:06ballistic missiles from North Korea, about which Reuters wrote today,
00:04:10I will talk about this with Oleh Katkov, editor-in-chief of Defense
00:04:13Express, Mr. Oleh, greetings to you,
00:04:16good afternoon, thank you for the invitation, thank you for participating in the program, I
00:04:20will start by saying that
00:04:23today we failed to shoot down any ballistic missiles at night, unfortunately,
00:04:26what does this indicate?
00:04:30About the fact that what was
00:04:33warned about a very long time ago, finally happened,
00:04:36that is, the number
00:04:39of anti-ballistic missiles available to Ukraine has decreased to
00:04:42zero, in the previous attack one ballistic missile
00:04:46was shot down, that is, it turns out
00:04:49the last missile was fired a week
00:04:52ago, and after that, apparently, no additional supplies were
00:04:55made, and the worst thing is that it is not
00:04:59worth expecting
00:05:02a drastic change in the situation, that is, that Ukraine will be flooded with Patriot missiles,
00:05:06objectively, because the
00:05:09numbers are playing against us. And unfortunately, these numbers
00:05:13are also well known to the enemy, and according to the data
00:05:17of the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, Russia
00:05:20produces 60 ballistic missiles
00:05:22for Iskander per month, 40
00:05:26RM48U missiles for S-300 and S-400 complexes for strikes on ground
00:05:30targets, and about one and a half dozen Zircons and
00:05:33Kinzhals, as hypersonic and
00:05:37aeroballistic missiles, that is, a total of approximately over
00:05:41100, 110, 115 targets, shooting
00:05:44down which requires a Patriot. At the same time, the American defense
00:05:47industry, primarily Lockheed Martin, is meant. So
00:05:51Lockheed Martin produces 620 missiles per year,
00:05:55this is based on the example of 2025, and this is approximately
00:05:5850-60 missiles per month,
00:06:02that is, the enemy has over a hundred, Lockheed Martin -
00:06:0550-60, that is, if even the US,
00:06:08and at the direction of a more pro-Ukrainian president,
00:06:12would transfer all the missiles they produce, we would
00:06:16already not have enough of them, and
00:06:19therefore, if there are any additional
00:06:23sources, the president spoke about this, the US representative
00:06:27to NATO spoke about this, and the sources are the current
00:06:30production, that is, the US can transfer some part of the current production,
00:06:33and also the reserves that are in partner
00:06:37countries, but objectively, they
00:06:40are already either empty, or these
00:06:44countries simply have
00:06:47their own vision of helping Ukraine,
00:06:50or rather, they do not
00:06:54even sell weapons to Ukraine, like South Korea,
00:06:57or they have legal restrictions, such as in Japan,
00:07:00which after World War II, after capitulation, has very
00:07:04serious restrictions on the export of weapons, and even there they found
00:07:07loopholes to help
00:07:10Taiwan, which also
00:07:14exploits, well, there China does not have such a security situation,
00:07:18it is unlikely that Taipei will agree to
00:07:21reduce the number of its Patriot missile stockpiles. The countries
00:07:25of the Persian Gulf, they fired a huge
00:07:28number due to the war in Iran, well, with Iran,
00:07:32and most likely their arsenals, well,
00:07:36objectively, have already bottomed out, and European countries
00:07:40supported us with Patriot missiles
00:07:43starting from 2023, and
00:07:46the last transfer, for example, of five missiles from Poland caused
00:07:50a political scandal in Warsaw, and the US itself, well,
00:07:54Trump has already said that it is not
00:07:57a source, and objectively this is confirmed by the figures provided
00:08:00by American analytical structures regarding spending, because
00:08:03they calculated, in particular, this is CSIS, it
00:08:06calculated that the US most likely has
00:08:09approximately 700 Impact 3 missiles left
00:08:13for Patriot, which means approximately 13 per
00:08:17launcher, per complex of
00:08:2060 available, that is, this is to load two
00:08:24launchers completely per system, and therefore
00:08:27when Ukraine asks for 300 missiles, then
00:08:30if indeed they have 800 left, this is almost
00:08:3440%. Regarding these PAC-3
00:08:38licenses, we have already talked a lot this week about the fact that even
00:08:41if we were given this license, it would be extremely difficult to
00:08:45implement it, even such a technologically advanced country as Japan, it took them
00:08:49several years to launch the production process,
00:08:52so why are these missiles so complex, can we bypass this
00:08:56technological threshold to shoot down ballistic missiles, all
00:09:00those announcements about some project Freya, about some interceptors
00:09:04of Ukrainian production, our own anti-ballistic missiles,
00:09:07until recently this was a very popular topic, what happened
00:09:10to it, why don't we talk about it anymore? Nothing happened, it
00:09:13is developing, regarding Freya, the deadlines have even
00:09:17shifted in a different direction, they have become more fresh,
00:09:21in particular, in the leadership
00:09:23of Firepoint, in one of their recent
00:09:26interviews, they are very actively selling them, I don't even remember
00:09:30the specific publication, but it was
00:09:33announced that the missile should go for
00:09:36testing with interception of ballistic targets in
00:09:40July, well, by July 2027,
00:09:43uh-huh, that is, in a year it will go for
00:09:46testing, and it should be noted immediately
00:09:50that Firepoint does not compare its
00:09:52missile,
00:09:54FP7.x with PAC-3
00:09:58MSE, in one of the interviews it was also explained
00:10:02that at the first stage, that is, when it will be the first
00:10:06such cycle, the first iteration, conditional block
00:10:09one, then it will definitely correspond.
00:10:13to the PAC-2 GMT missile, the one that can only hit
00:10:16ballistic targets, there is no hit-to-kill technology, and
00:10:19objectively, on a missile that is based on 48N6, from
00:10:23the S3 400 complex, still Soviet, that is,
00:10:27it is an aerodynamic form, concept, layout, other
00:10:30materials, other solid fuel, other electronics, but
00:10:34conceptually it is 48.6, so it was difficult
00:10:37to expect hit-to-kill technology, kinetic
00:10:40destruction of the warhead in the air along with a ballistic
00:10:43missile, that is, in the summer of 2027, the
00:10:46Freya missile will go for
00:10:50testing, to this time we need to add, well, to this period we need to add time
00:10:54for testing,
00:10:57the start of production and production not only of missiles, here
00:11:00we are only partially dependent on supplies
00:11:04from European partners, because, for example, the homing head, at least
00:11:08now it is considered as a
00:11:11cooperation with the company, that is, from
00:11:14the German defense company it will depend on how many missiles we can
00:11:18produce, how many homing heads they will supply, how many missiles we
00:11:21can physically make, well, and from all European... partners it will
00:11:25depend on how many complexes we can make, because all
00:11:29the launchers for this complex, the command post, this is
00:11:32the parish of the partners, and only
00:11:35after everything goes into production, that is,
00:11:39the first complex is conditionally produced, yes, then we must understand
00:11:42that, well, there are much more Patriots than
00:11:45one, and then there will also be the issue of producing
00:11:49these missiles, which will be at least at the
00:11:53PAC-2 GMT level at the first stage, and
00:11:56here the question is the number of these missiles, so Freya can definitely
00:12:00never be considered as a solution for
00:12:03tomorrow, conditionally for this winter, what solutions do we have for this winter, can
00:12:07we have our own, possibly ballistic, by the end of the year, we had many
00:12:11announcements,
00:12:15well, unfortunately, I really hope that the same
00:12:19Firepoint company has changed its vision,
00:12:22but the last time the question of FP7 was raised,
00:12:25I remind you, according to the company's declarations,
00:12:28it was supposed to go for codification back
00:12:32in the order that was six months ago, and
00:12:35in the summer of this year, the 56th,
00:12:39FP9 was supposed to go for codification, but obviously the deadlines
00:12:43are shifting to the right, so regarding FP7 there was such
00:12:47a, well, I can probably say a strange phrase regarding
00:12:50the fact that this missile is not needed, because it is expensive
00:12:54and flies a short
00:12:55distance,
00:12:58well, let's say, I think that perhaps
00:13:01now, if this will be reprocessed, but
00:13:05this phrase was made from the point of view of information
00:13:09security, only practice will show, but it is known
00:13:13in Ukraine, that is, again, from public interviews, how many
00:13:16official statements there have been regarding at least two projects that
00:13:20exist, these are ballistic missiles Firepoint
00:13:23and... it is known from KB Pivdenne, this is
00:13:27Sapsan, but probably, when we
00:13:30finally hear the howling from the swamps that these missiles are actively
00:13:34used, then we can say that we have them in sufficient
00:13:38quantities, until then,
00:13:41well, we hope that this will happen, let's talk about
00:13:44Sapsan, about this missile a little more, I think it is known what we can
00:13:48say about it now with the latest information, how promising
00:13:51is this development,
00:13:54it remains promising for over 10 years, this
00:13:58says a lot, in particular, that this
00:14:02prospect is not yet in sight in the near
00:14:05future,
00:14:07I objectively prefer to talk about Ukrainian
00:14:11ballistic missiles, based on the fact that howling began in the swamps
00:14:14that Ukraine is using some ballistic missiles, because
00:14:18in this case, when we discuss
00:14:21what we should have had in service
00:14:24for a long time, nothing
00:14:26has changed, that is, ballistic missiles are actually, again, you need
00:14:30to understand that this is a complex topic,
00:14:34as soon as Ukraine develops and begins mass production of ballistic
00:14:37missiles, we will be the first in Europe to
00:14:41produce operational-tactical ballistic
00:14:44missiles, no one in Europe produces them, that's
00:14:47just the reality of the world, that is, when
00:14:51we whine, complain...
00:14:55perhaps blame our designers, developers,
00:14:58no matter who, and where, well,
00:15:01in fact, you just need to understand that it is difficult, really difficult, and all
00:15:05of Europe, starting from Portugal, ending
00:15:09with, if we take the European segment of NATO, there is Great Britain, there is Poland
00:15:12and everything else, all these countries, there are no ballistic
00:15:15missiles, just as a class, everything that exists is
00:15:19intercontinental ballistic missiles in homeopathic quantities in
00:15:23France, but these missiles are designed for nuclear submarines and are supposed to carry
00:15:26nuclear warheads, their use will only come when
00:15:30France no longer exists, that is, this is not a weapon for
00:15:34such a war as now with the Russian Federation, and...
00:15:37the same France, which, by the way, had an excellent project
00:15:41of operational-analytical missile systems,
00:15:44"Ait", unfortunately, I can't say how it is pronounced in French, but
00:15:48the example is exactly that, so they burned them in the
00:15:5190s, and they did not develop
00:15:55anything new, and now they are only creating a medium-range ballistic
00:15:59missile, well, obviously for a nuclear warhead, and this will be created
00:16:02somewhere in the 2030s, uh-huh,
00:16:06why can't we.
00:16:17when we read about these Korean or Iranian missiles, we
00:16:20face the fact that this is always a reworking of some
00:16:23old enough Soviet or Soviet
00:16:26missile, why can't we go this way,
00:16:29for example, I don't know, get just blueprints, conditionally
00:16:33speaking, of that missile that the French cut up, as you say, for scrap metal
00:16:36and... just launch it, rethink,
00:16:40restore this production, this is the first and second question, of course, regarding
00:16:44this Korean threat, we probably saw the Reuters
00:16:48publication that 120 ballistic missiles could be deployed
00:16:51on the border with operators from North
00:16:54Korea,
00:16:57well, I strongly disagree with the thesis regarding old
00:17:01Soviet developments, the thing is that if we are talking about the same
00:17:04KN-23s that were already used against Ukraine,
00:17:08then this is Iskander,
00:17:12based on technologies available to the DPRK, on a technological
00:17:15base that is available, which is
00:17:19very far behind what the Russian Federation can do, so
00:17:23the KN-23s are much less accurate, and even
00:17:27the direct participation of Russian specialists did
00:17:30not help, given the data regarding the accuracy of their
00:17:32hits, and even these new missiles,
00:17:35new ones that were produced under a new
00:17:39order, so, well, KN-23 is definitely not
00:17:43pro-Soviet, it is specifically about
00:17:47using Iskander technology,
00:17:50regarding Iranian,
00:17:53then, well, here we must remember that
00:17:56Iran is a country that,
00:17:59well, is a bit large, let's say, to put it mildly, a country
00:18:03that
00:18:05had both a strategic program for the creation
00:18:09of ballistic weapons, and also received help
00:18:13from the DPRK at one time,
00:18:15after the collapse of the Soviet Union, I am sure directly
00:18:19from Russian specialists who helped them a lot, back
00:18:23in the 90s, 00s, 10s,
00:18:26and now even Americans complain that their
00:18:30missiles began to break through Patriot more often, and
00:18:34somehow the same thing happened with Iskander.
00:18:38That is, the direct participation of Russian specialists in the modernization of Iranian
00:18:42missiles, well, I would say, is highly
00:18:45probable, therefore,
00:18:48therefore, that's it, the question is why, for example, Ukraine does not have it, well, because it should
00:18:52be and should have been a national strategic
00:18:55program that would involve investing
00:18:58huge funds, it would last approximately
00:19:0210 years, with maximum assistance, that is, we need
00:19:05to go back to about 2016, at least,
00:19:09in order to have it today, and it is desirable to go back to about 2012,
00:19:12and you need to understand that yes,
00:19:16many, many did not want Ukraine
00:19:20to get ballistic missiles, just as at one
00:19:22time in Europe, why are there no ballistic missiles in Europe, this
00:19:26is a very interesting, by the way, question, and the answer to it
00:19:29lies in the question of why the US took away the
00:19:33Pershing missiles from the German army, which were part of
00:19:36the Bundeswehr in the 90s, very little time left,
00:19:39finally, if you can briefly comment, I saw that in
00:19:42an interview with Dmytro Gordon,
00:19:46Mr. Shtilerman
00:19:48said that this Russian analogue of
00:19:51Starlink, this "Rassvet" satellite system is not
00:19:55a great threat, since they are quite easy to
00:19:57shoot down,
00:20:00the Firepoint company, if I am sure that
00:20:03if the general designer of the company,
00:20:07the chief designer of the Fairpoint company knows
00:20:11and can make means to
00:20:14shoot down a target that moves at a speed of approximately
00:20:177.5 km / second at an altitude of over
00:20:20500 km, then creating a ballistic missile FP7
00:20:24for destruction and counter-battery combat with Iskander is
00:20:28a simple task for him. We will hope. Thank you
00:20:31for the conversation and this answer. Oleg Katkov, editor-in-chief of Defens
00:20:35Express, was with us.
00:20:37Well, and now we will continue the military theme, and also,
00:20:41how can we actually help
00:20:44the army's military-industrial complex to
00:20:47finally get the necessary
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00:20:54promises and President Zelensky said that the president and
00:20:57then-Prime Minister
00:20:59Shmyhal said that we would have
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00:26:06There was also a statement at the end of 2025, it seems,
00:26:09by President Zelensky, that we will invest 35
00:26:12billion dollars in the production of our own
00:26:16missiles and drones in 2026. We have already covered half a year,
00:26:19and perhaps interim results can be made,
00:26:23because, you know, even if we take the cost of 3
00:26:26million dollars, which is the average estimated cost of a Russian ballistic missile, then even if we
00:26:30consider that only half of this
00:26:34figure, say, 18 billion, would have been spent on this, then it
00:26:38would have meant, let's count, how many 600
00:26:41ballistic missiles, I think that not much would have been left of Russia at this rate. Why
00:26:45hasn't this happened yet? Let's try to talk about it with
00:26:48Ilya Neskhodovsky, a serviceman of the 24th separate mechanized brigade,
00:26:52a freelance expert of the National Interests Protection Network,
00:26:55Anz. Hello,
00:26:58Mr. Panel. Hello, everyone,
00:27:02well, I'll go back to this question again, in your
00:27:06opinion, why was it not possible to produce
00:27:093000 missiles in 2025, and what needs to be
00:27:12done, what conclusions can be drawn in order for this to succeed this
00:27:16year, or at least next year?
00:27:19Well, first of all,
00:27:23I will say that
00:27:26I did not express myself, I do not know at what stage those or
00:27:29other times were, but of course, well... the logic,
00:27:33it basically gives such an answer
00:27:37that Ukraine had missile developments, and these
00:27:40missile developments, they were quite promising, which
00:27:44passed certain tests. We
00:27:47had a sufficiently powerful design
00:27:49potential, and by investing in this
00:27:53direction, because these people were without
00:27:57money, without work, without state orders,
00:28:00and as a result... yes, well,
00:28:03and the matter did not move,
00:28:07but for some reasons, although we
00:28:09guess for what reasons, the bet was made
00:28:12on the development from
00:28:15scratch, and this development of missiles from
00:28:19scratch, that is, led to the fact that this
00:28:22process objectively
00:28:26takes a sufficiently long time. There are many
00:28:29statements by the chief designer. The well-known lady, who
00:28:32promises to hit Moscow, and hit there for
00:28:361000 km and everything else, but
00:28:39so far these are only statements, only a few
00:28:43hits we can observe and confirm that
00:28:46it was indeed carried out by firepoint
00:28:49missiles, others, accordingly, the number of hits is sufficiently
00:28:53low, that is, the statements clearly diverge from
00:28:56the actual result, so the process is delayed because
00:28:59for some reasons the bet was made on a new
00:29:03development. The fact that this manufacturer indeed makes
00:29:06sufficiently effective
00:29:10drones, which have appropriate
00:29:12effects, which indeed inflict significant
00:29:15damage on the enemy, is indisputable, but these
00:29:18are completely different technologies,
00:29:21comparing missiles and comparing
00:29:24drones, well, I don't even know how this can be
00:29:28compared, they have... Yes, because missiles are quite complex, it's not
00:29:43just launching and flying, what he said in one interview,
00:29:47that launching and flying was already known to
00:29:49the Germans in World War II, that's true,
00:29:53that is, it was known back then,
00:29:56but now it's also a matter of guidance, and a matter of
00:30:00maneuvering, and a matter of target
00:30:03setting, these are all
00:30:07quite complex technological
00:30:10parts, and therefore comparing them or transferring them,
00:30:13for example, with drones, well, it just doesn't
00:30:16work out, so we are accordingly waiting for
00:30:20these millions of promises to turn into at least
00:30:2310% real
00:30:26hitting results, in my opinion, this was one of
00:30:29the reasons, if we're talking about a certain political structure,
00:30:33because the Minister of Defense Fedorov, accordingly,
00:30:37who is now in resignation, introduced
00:30:39into the system an assessment not by promises, but by
00:30:43results, accordingly, and the
00:30:46agreements that the Ministry of
00:30:49Defense was making changed significantly,
00:30:52and as a result, many people did not
00:30:56like this, that is, big money became the reason for this resignation.