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00:00:00in any city, at any time, just
00:00:03go to the website and report it, and we
00:00:06will launch all possible mechanisms to punish
00:00:09the criminal. Stopcrime
00:00:11ua.
00:00:18New tactics of food terror.
00:00:22What are the Russians trying to achieve?
00:00:25Escalation, panic, what
00:00:28scares Ukrainians is real, and what
00:00:30is Russian
00:00:32propaganda?
00:00:35Voice of America resumes broadcasting in Ukrainian.
00:00:39Why is this important?
00:00:56Greetings, this is the main news, my name is Andriy Sachuk and we... with you and
00:01:00our experts will now analyze the main events of today.
00:01:04Today's topic of our survey, which we address to our
00:01:07viewers, sounds like this: will Ukraine cope with the consequences of Russian attacks
00:01:11on food infrastructure? And
00:01:14the answer options are: yes, I believe in Ukrainian business, there will be no crisis;
00:01:17I am afraid of a crisis, so I am stocking up on products; it doesn't matter, I have a village and
00:01:21I won't die of hunger. This is such a story, we will also
00:01:25find out the opinion of the business itself,
00:01:28big business, which is suffering more now from the latest
00:01:31attacks, if I can put it that way, well, and by the way, I would like to remind you that
00:01:35we had very serious attacks,
00:01:39serious attacks were on the warehouses of large
00:01:43retail chains, what will be the consequences of these
00:01:46attacks, we will also talk about this now,
00:01:49I remind you that during yesterday's
00:01:53massive attack
00:01:56on the capital of Ukraine,
00:01:58first of all, as well as in the Kyiv
00:02:02region, the warehouses of several Ukrainian and foreign
00:02:06companies were damaged, including Rozetka, Epicenter, Nova
00:02:10Poshta, Silpo, Novus, and also foreign companies such as
00:02:12Bosch, Puma, which have already warned that there will be problems with the supply of
00:02:16ordered products to Ukraine, and in fact, how business intends to react
00:02:20to these challenges, we will talk about now, Yuliia Chudnovets,
00:02:23PR director of the Epicenter company, is joining us, Ms. Yuliia, greetings to you.
00:02:26Greetings, greetings,
00:02:31first of all, let me express my condolences in connection
00:02:35with the fact that a person died yesterday, one of the Epicenter employees,
00:02:39and you also have three wounded, how are they doing, by the way?
00:02:43They are in the hospital, we are in contact with them, the company has fully
00:02:46taken over the provision of assistance to
00:02:50families, and the director of the logistics center
00:02:53constantly keeps in touch with the victims,
00:02:56regarding this strike now, which was last night, in particular, this is not
00:03:00the first strike on Epicenter, they were there almost from the first
00:03:04days, you can say, of the war, nevertheless, is it even possible to prepare for this?
00:03:07it is unlikely that one can prepare for such strikes, despite the fact that
00:03:10since the beginning of the war we have lost 10 shopping
00:03:14centers, 13 shopping centers were damaged, of course,
00:03:18this strike on logistics,
00:03:22so, now we will try to restore, I will only
00:03:25say, if you allow me, my
00:03:32last purchase in still peaceful Ukraine,
00:03:36was exactly at Epicenter, which burned down
00:03:39in Bucha about a week or two later,
00:03:42I just had a gift certificate there,
00:03:46and I decided to spend it, I bought something for the kitchen
00:03:49and that was the last more or less big purchase
00:03:53before the Russian invasion. And then this Epicenter, if I had
00:03:56known, although there were warnings, and I,
00:04:00I confess, had such a thought, such a sad thought,
00:04:03whether I was in this Epicenter for the last time, and this Epicenter burned down, it was the largest
00:04:06in the Kyiv region, in Bucha, and now these stories are repeating themselves,
00:04:10Ms. Yuliia Chudnovets, PR director of
00:04:14Epicenter company, is returning to us, Ms. Yuliia, welcome
00:04:18back, we will continue
00:04:21the question, whether it is possible to prepare for this, and by the way, what will happen
00:04:25to those people who managed to make some orders for the goods that
00:04:28were destroyed in the warehouses as a result of these technical strikes, I know for sure that
00:04:32there are such people, they have already received rejections, and they do not receive
00:04:36their goods.
00:04:39Look, no, there is no such story that there will be a complete refusal,
00:04:43and how the Epicenter website works is a
00:04:46marketplace, suppliers register there, who directly through
00:04:50our platform sell their goods, all goods that
00:04:53Epicenter provides on the website, there is a mark "goods from
00:04:56Epicenter", and... all these goods will be
00:05:00provided in full, because the supply will be provided from our shopping
00:05:03centers, that is, despite the fact that we have lost
00:05:07logistics, we have other
00:05:10opportunities. goods from shopping
00:05:13centers, which we, with which we can close our online orders,
00:05:16of course, if it is a small
00:05:20producer or dealer, if he lost his
00:05:23goods, of course he will have to refuse, because he will not be able to replenish
00:05:27his inventory so quickly, but
00:05:30this will not affect the company's operations as a whole,
00:05:34because we have a widespread network throughout Ukraine,
00:05:37and currently we are doing everything so that our customers do not
00:05:41feel this painful blow, which was
00:05:44painful precisely for us. Advisor to President Serhiy
00:05:47Beskresnov said that he calls on all people
00:05:51who will visit Epicenter next time, and an air raid siren goes off,
00:05:54as well as other hypermarkets
00:05:57to immediately leave the premises and
00:06:01be in shelters, so how do you generally feel about such
00:06:04announcements, whether they will not harm business in general
00:06:08customer sentiment, and secondly, is there always
00:06:11somewhere to go? What to hide?
00:06:15You know, it's very good that there is the vision of the President's advisors and
00:06:19there is the vision of the people of Ukraine, and this is often a very different
00:06:22vision, because, of course, we have
00:06:25air raid alerts, we are all aware, just as no one
00:06:29forces us out of our apartments, we must understand that we must
00:06:33leave shopping centers, in the fifth year
00:06:36of the war, receiving an air raid signal, we understand that we
00:06:39must leave, this is the safety of our lives, and... as
00:06:43for people, you know, we received completely different feedback,
00:06:46completely different feedback, we received millions, just
00:06:49messages, from ordinary buyers, tags on
00:06:52social networks, videos where people filmed and said: you know, I didn't need anything
00:06:56at Epicenter, I went and bought something to support you,
00:07:00because I understand how difficult it is for you, we would like to receive such a
00:07:03signal from the authorities as well, listen, you are hanging by
00:07:07the last thread here, what can we do for you to make you
00:07:11feel better? This
00:07:13would be good, but we absolutely received this
00:07:17from our buyers, from
00:07:20people who treated us with extraordinary
00:07:23warmth, who supported us very much, and believe me,
00:07:27for business that is reborn despite
00:07:30the destruction, that has been fighting all this time, this is important,
00:07:34it is important for it to hear this, it is important to feel that it
00:07:37is needed, because despite the fact that we have lost 10
00:07:41shopping centers, we have built
00:07:44four, one of them is huge, the largest in the
00:07:48network during the war, and I believe that this also
00:07:52says, you know, not about money, because building during the war,
00:07:56it's not entirely about money, it's about how
00:07:59we believe in Ukraine, what are the ways to make
00:08:03warehouses, storage facilities,
00:08:07and even the centers themselves, such as Epicenter,
00:08:10less vulnerable to enemy attacks,
00:08:12are there any developments here, I saw that you
00:08:16are temporarily moving, for example, tile production abroad,
00:08:19maybe some part of logistics can be moved abroad,
00:08:23after all, if the products still, for example,
00:08:26travel from Kyiv to Uzhgorod 800 km,
00:08:30can it not then travel, for example, from Poland to Kyiv 800
00:08:34km?
00:08:37You know, many businesses, not just us, started to diversify their logistics
00:08:40at the beginning of the war.
00:08:43And therefore, of course, for all of us, this is a huge
00:08:47loss, but I think that neither we nor anyone
00:08:51in the market will stop, because we are already prepared for
00:08:54this story. Uh-huh, is there
00:08:57a connection?
00:08:59Yes, we have been prepared for this story since the very beginning
00:09:02of the war, and of course we
00:09:04have
00:09:06rebuilt,
00:09:11yes, again. We lost connection, I'll add from myself that
00:09:14I noticed that there are, for example, such things as now pickup points, which can be
00:09:18scattered, and you can order something online and
00:09:22pick it up there, you don't necessarily have to go to a huge
00:09:25Epicenter for this, but now our interviewee is returning to us,
00:09:28Ms. Yuliia,
00:09:29Ms. Yuliia, do you hear us
00:09:32or is it, yes, yes, I hear you, yes, you actually
00:09:36stopped at the fact that you prepared for this in advance and are taking steps
00:09:39in this direction to diversify these risks.
00:09:43Yes, that's right, and
00:09:46we, and, not only us, all big
00:09:49business,
00:09:50something, something, something is just
00:09:57happening with our connection, it's very difficult, and I still had a question, what
00:10:01actually, how does it affect, if suddenly
00:10:04we manage to establish a connection for one more iteration,
00:10:07I still had a question about whether the blockade of
00:10:11Black Sea ports currently affects
00:10:14Epicenter's operations as well, in particular, for example, I understand
00:10:17that a large part of the assortment, especially
00:10:21building materials, consists of Chinese goods. What will happen
00:10:24to them now, if Ms. Yuliia is with us, I would ask her to
00:10:27comment on this question. I hear you, do you hear me?
00:10:31Yes, I hear you, I'm asking about the blockade of Black Sea ports now,
00:10:35how much it affects, well, in particular, a lot of Chinese, I heard your
00:10:38question, uh-huh, and look, since the beginning
00:10:41of the war, we have greatly revised our imports and
00:10:45reduced them as much as possible, that is, now we mostly
00:10:48sell Ukrainian products, we only have in imports
00:10:52what is really not produced in Ukraine,
00:10:56yes, and this is not such a large quantity, quantity of
00:10:59goods, that is, almost all the imported goods that we have in
00:11:03the network, are replaced by Ukrainian goods, that is, a
00:11:06person will not feel this on themselves, that is, they
00:11:10can come and instead of five
00:11:13varieties of one product, find two, and three of them,
00:11:16for example, imported, they will not see, but they will still see
00:11:19goods of different price categories from a Ukrainian manufacturer.
00:11:22And they will not feel this on themselves, as for
00:11:26us, in principle, as for the company's activities, again, with
00:11:29logistics, since we also have an agricultural direction,
00:11:32we have long ago rebuilt logistical routes for all
00:11:36possible cases
00:11:39of life, how do you think, in general,
00:11:43will business now get out of this
00:11:46situation, if I may use such a term, because, well, we
00:11:49understand that most likely in the near future such
00:11:53attacks on business, ballistic strikes will
00:11:56continue?
00:12:04Well, unfortunately, okay, never mind, we will raise this
00:12:07topic again, discuss it further, we will have,
00:12:11by the way, Mr. Serhiy Fursa, we will also talk about business adaptability,
00:12:14about how business can, how business can
00:12:18respond to such challenges, how it can, figuratively
00:12:21speaking, heal its wounds, but what it actually
00:12:25needs for this is state assistance,
00:12:28non-interference in some state affairs,
00:12:32these are all interesting questions too, I don't know, we have already said goodbye to our
00:12:35interlocutor, tell me, yes, we said goodbye, Yuliia Chudnovets was
00:12:38with us, PR director of Epicenter company, this conversation was not
00:12:42easy for us, but we succeeded, and
00:12:45we will continue this topic, in fact, Serhiy
00:12:48Furtsev, investment banker and
00:12:51publicist, joins us, Mr. Serhiy, greetings to you.
00:12:55Greetings, we have already started this topic and conversation with Ms. Yulia,
00:12:59Chudnovets, PR director of Epicenter company, and
00:13:01yesterday we talked, by the way, with the co-owner,
00:13:04co-founder of Rozetka, Chichotkin, and in principle,
00:13:08business, they met there, we know, with the Prime Minister, with
00:13:12the Cabinet of Ministers, and they don't really want, in my opinion,
00:13:16to talk about what was discussed there, maybe some topics are secret,
00:13:19nevertheless, what do you think the government, the Cabinet, the executive
00:13:23power can do now,
00:13:25maybe the legislators, to support our business,
00:13:29big business, big retail chains,
00:13:32which are now suffering from these mirror strikes of the Russians?
00:13:36Well, look, first of all, it's not only now
00:13:39that business has started to suffer, this has been happening since 2022,
00:13:43so talking about some special situation now
00:13:46is inappropriate, when we say what the state can do?
00:13:49In fact, nothing special can be done, and
00:13:53here assistance from the state
00:13:56will always, if any, be very, very
00:13:58limited, and perhaps it will
00:14:01focus on administrative
00:14:04aspects in terms of assistance,
00:14:07organizational plan,
00:14:10what is it about, that one of the decisions that
00:14:12was discussed, among other things, at the meeting with the Prime Minister,
00:14:15was the removal of certain logistics hubs outside
00:14:19Ukraine, large ones, in the framework of cooperation with our
00:14:22Western partners and so on, to
00:14:25Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, and here the assistance
00:14:29of the government for these negotiations might be appropriate.
00:14:32Personally, I am also a supporter of mandatory insurance against military
00:14:36risk, as it works now with cars, so it should be with
00:14:40business, that is, all businesses without exception should
00:14:44be obliged to be insured against currency from
00:14:47risks. Military, uh-huh, since
00:14:51there are many businesses in the country, and only a very limited number of them are affected,
00:14:55then in case this happens, these
00:14:58businesses would receive assistance at the expense of these solidarity
00:15:02contributions from all others, this could
00:15:06work and reduce the burden, which
00:15:08and losses, Mr. Serhiy, how should such a system
00:15:12actually be implemented, that is, it should not then be
00:15:16commercial insurance, because commercial insurance companies
00:15:19are unlikely to go there.
00:15:23Look, why, when
00:15:25we are talking about cars, it is commercial insurance, commercial,
00:15:29yes, everyone in Ukraine now, car owners
00:15:32are insured, and we don't have now the silly situation of the 90s,
00:15:35when people beat each other up, but simply if an accident
00:15:39happened, everyone is insured, the insurance
00:15:42company solves the problem, since everyone
00:15:45must be insured, then the risks for the insurance company will be
00:15:49limited, because simply by the theory of probability, very few of these
00:15:52businesses would suffer, uh-huh, wait,
00:15:56but insurance, is this listed as an insured
00:15:59event? I don't think so, this is a force majeure issue, I honestly don't
00:16:03remember anyone being paid money for a burnt car.
00:16:08Look, because these are separate risks, military ones, they are not
00:16:11predictable by standard contracts, and we are talking about
00:16:15obliging everyone in an mandatory regime, absolutely all
00:16:19owners from a kiosk to a large factory, to be insured
00:16:22precisely against military risks. Uh-huh, okay, this
00:16:26will mean some then additional super-contributions,
00:16:29probably, this will be a completely different tariff, but this can be talked about, but it seems
00:16:33to me that here only the state would add some guarantees for insurance
00:16:36companies. No, the state does not need a guarantee, because again, when
00:16:40everyone is insured, uh-huh, then the specific risk
00:16:43of a specific insurance company is very limited, uh-huh, okay,
00:16:46that is, it's a matter of everyone actually joining this game and developing
00:16:50some rules, it's a matter of the state forcing
00:16:53all businesses to insure themselves, uh-huh.
00:16:57Speaking of the fact that not much has changed, but
00:17:00look, well, in fact, someone might say
00:17:04that we have serious changes in this war now, because
00:17:08in the last six months, Russia launched 280 ballistic
00:17:11missiles only at Kyiv, last year for the whole year
00:17:14it launched, I don't remember, how many, 100 something,
00:17:18I think, so this is, well, this is really
00:17:20completely different numbers.
00:17:23At Kyiv, right, only at Kyiv.
00:17:27Yes, but now they are concentrating strikes on
00:17:31Kyiv, if we look at the data from our
00:17:33intelligence, has Russia increased the production of ballistic missiles? No, it has
00:17:37not increased, so in this way they
00:17:40are now putting pressure on our mentality, given that last year
00:17:44there was no sense in shelling Kyiv, because Kyiv
00:17:47was protected by
00:17:51Patriots, they then shelled sparingly, now they
00:17:54are shelling more, it's just that before they shelled the entire territory
00:17:58of, say, Left-Bank Ukraine, and now they are shelling only
00:18:01Kyiv, so to say that
00:18:05something... is being singled out to influence
00:18:07the economy, well, no, it's not being singled out, because again,
00:18:10now changes are happening only for Kyiv first, because
00:18:14Kyiv has become on a par with Poltava,
00:18:17with Odesa, with Kharkiv, with Kryvyi Rih
00:18:21in terms of how ballistic missiles
00:18:24can hit it, for all other cities of Ukraine nothing has
00:18:28changed, this is key, plus
00:18:31given that the Russians have not increased ballistic missile production,
00:18:34yes, they sometimes have one-time arrivals from North Korea.
00:18:38But they are now escalating and using
00:18:41up reserves, which means they will then be forced to take a break,
00:18:45simply replenishing these reserves. We already saw this at the beginning
00:18:49of the year, when during, it seems, April-May,
00:18:52Russia significantly reduced ballistic strikes, simply because they were
00:18:55collecting missiles again. So to say that in terms of impact on
00:18:58the economy, something else is happening now? No, it's not
00:19:02happening, Kyiv just joined other cities of Ukraine, that's all.
00:19:06Well, but Kyiv is the capital,
00:19:08and I understand that, for example,
00:19:12residents of Sumy can say, and do say, that their situation
00:19:15has worsened, because more FABs are flying into the city.
00:19:19Perhaps something similar can be said in Kherson, but
00:19:22given the different business activity of cities,
00:19:26is it still the capital, which finds itself in a situation
00:19:29where business activity is constantly suppressed by such
00:19:32serious shelling, does this not change
00:19:35the situation? Look, there is no suppressed
00:19:39business activity yet, last year Kyiv
00:19:42was not shelled by ballistic missiles, of course, less, but there were a hundred Shaheds per
00:19:45night, which reached, there were, there were cruise missiles
00:19:49that reached, now there is none of this, and only ballistic missiles
00:19:52are left, but the number of hits has hardly
00:19:55changed much, again, because last year there were hits from Shaheds, of which there were
00:19:59many, and which also affected business and so
00:20:02on, when we are talking now about the impact on the economy, then... the impact
00:20:06of these strikes and there is no such expectation
00:20:09that this will significantly increase anything, there is a problem with ports, and
00:20:13there is a result on the impact on the economy, because it restrains
00:20:16Ukrainian exports, agricultural exports, metallurgical exports,
00:20:20strikes on Kyiv bring nothing new,
00:20:23well, except that some consumer sentiments
00:20:26may change, because there is some kind of panic wave,
00:20:30I see many such desperate posts lately.
00:20:33There is a panic wave, which is spread by Russians, but there are no
00:20:37preconditions for this panic, so in fact the task of all sober people
00:20:41is to say that nothing has changed, there is no reason for panic, because yesterday
00:20:44people wrote to me that in... my
00:20:48kumuf, in fact, saying that now there will be
00:20:52some hyperinflation or hunger, or
00:20:54a collapse of banks, for which there are absolutely no preconditions, well, absolutely
00:20:58none, but these panic moods are intensified, actively
00:21:02fueled by Russians, maybe also against the background of the heat, you know, now the head does not
00:21:05hold, but this is an artificial
00:21:09panic, but we say that, for example, strikes on
00:21:12Wildberries may affect the
00:21:16stability of their banking system, I have seen such
00:21:20comments from various economists, economic
00:21:23experts, many times, because this is cash and so on and
00:21:26so forth. Look, strikes on Wildberries do not affect
00:21:29the banking system of Russia, not at all, from the point of view
00:21:33of tangibility or the emergence of some crisis, both strikes on
00:21:37Wildberries from our side, and Russian strikes on our
00:21:40companies, do not affect the overall macroeconomic picture,
00:21:43well, they are not capable of affecting it.
00:21:46Look, if we look at some analogies,
00:21:50then we saw the history of
00:21:52the Iran-Iraq war, which lasted eight years, and there,
00:21:56interestingly, militarny wrote about it today, that they also
00:22:00had such an idea for four years, that they would be able to
00:22:03somehow break through the defense, then
00:22:07Iran thought that we have three times more mobilization reserves,
00:22:10now we will crush them with numbers, so they also went through different,
00:22:14different stages, and after four years they realized that the front
00:22:17was practically more or less static and they started
00:22:21destroying each other's large cities, but there
00:22:25were slightly different missile reserves, and they did not produce their
00:22:28own ballistic missiles then, nevertheless, I mean, does this
00:22:32not mean that we are now entering such a stage
00:22:36when for the next years we will have such strikes?
00:22:40Again, perhaps we will, we
00:22:43have had all these strikes for five years in a row, nothing has
00:22:46changed, it has changed, if you... Shaheds, cruise missiles and
00:22:50ballistic missiles arrive in a certain
00:22:53quantity, and now only ballistic missiles arrive in a certain
00:22:56comparable quantity, has anything changed for you, the fact that ballistic
00:23:00missiles arrive now, and not Shaheds, and not cruise missiles, this
00:23:03essentially changes nothing, plus we now need to understand that
00:23:07more than half of the territory of Ukraine is generally particularly
00:23:10unreachable, when we talk about anything west of Vinnytsia,
00:23:13ballistic missiles do not reach there, cruise missiles and
00:23:17Shaheds are now shot down very effectively. Thus, again,
00:23:20we are not even talking about the territory of all Ukraine, when we talk
00:23:24about risks for business or impact or destruction or
00:23:28anything, it's the radius of ballistic missiles, and yes,
00:23:31now Kyiv has become more sensitive to this, but again,
00:23:35this is happening against the background of a reduction in sensitivity to Shaheds and
00:23:38and a reduction in sensitivity to cruise missiles,
00:23:42nothing special is happening now that should tell us about some
00:23:46incomparable destruction. damage to the economy, it's not
00:23:50happening, none of this is happening, it's within what we have already
00:23:53seen, we today this week in general
00:23:57raised this topic, published,
00:24:00in particular, the Kyiv School of Economics, there at the request of
00:24:04the World Bank,
00:24:06published such a strategy
00:24:08for the development of Ukraine, the economy of the future, and it, in a nutshell,
00:24:12is based on two expectations, that we will be able to
00:24:16attract large investments, and two, we will be able to
00:24:20raise taxes and everyone will pay them and we will reduce the national
00:24:24debt, and I'm just trying to
00:24:26understand how the current situation fits into
00:24:30this long-term strategy, or do we actually need to
00:24:34develop a flexible economic strategy now?
00:24:37how the country's economy
00:24:41should develop now, because if the war continues for years
00:24:44and in this vein, we won't have any
00:24:48investments, because we can't ensure the safety of these
00:24:51investments, well, simply from attacks
00:24:55by Shaheds or ballistic missiles or rockets, and the second point is, well, why
00:24:58raise taxes on Rozetka, if it has now incurred billion-dollar
00:25:02losses, well, for example,
00:25:06look, firstly, what was
00:25:08discussed in this strategy is
00:25:11post-war recovery, and the strategy is not for the period
00:25:15of war, there are no investments during the war and there won't be any,
00:25:18everything is about... about how Ukraine should build its
00:25:22economy, as far as I understand, after the end
00:25:24of the war, plus, when we
00:25:27talk
00:25:29about tax pressure, we are not talking about increasing taxes, we
00:25:33are talking about the fact that taxes must be paid, that is, about the de-shadowing
00:25:36of the economy, and the de-shadowing of the economy is timely, even during
00:25:40the war.
00:25:43Well, thank you very much for the conversation, Serhiy
00:25:46Fursa, investment banker, was with us. We talked a little
00:25:50about what is happening with business now, as well as about
00:25:54the panic mood that has really gripped
00:25:57many people in connection with the current
00:26:00situation, this, by the way, is also in the headlines
00:26:03of the media now, and here is an amazing situation, how
00:26:06the situation suddenly changed, because a month or two ago,
00:26:09literally, it seems to me, both in Western media, and I don't know, in
00:26:13Ukrainian social networks,
00:26:16and by the way, in the statements of the authorities, there were many, many
00:26:19positive announcements, that Ukraine is winning the
00:26:23war, we heard some things about the war potentially
00:26:26ending this year, although they still continue
00:26:30to sound, yes, but... but we also have
00:26:34some quite panicky moods, which are related to the fact
00:26:37that, in essence, ballistic missiles are
00:26:39not being shot down now, because there is simply nothing to
00:26:43shoot them down with, and I remind you that today our
00:26:46poll asks whether
00:26:49you, whether you are preparing for some
00:26:53possible problems with the food crisis,
00:26:56if those attacks on supermarket warehouses
00:26:59happen and others, and... the answers: I believe in
00:27:03Ukrainian business, there will be no crisis, I'm afraid of a crisis, so
00:27:07I'm stocking up on food, I don't care, because I have a plan
00:27:11B, and that is the village, that's a good plan
00:27:14B too, actually, I think it's good for everyone to have
00:27:17this plan
00:27:18B.
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