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00:00:06opinion? Yes, I believe in Ukrainian business, there will be no crisis. I am afraid
00:00:10of a crisis, I am stocking up on food, I don't know what kind, probably matches
00:00:14should be first here, it doesn't matter, because I don't live in a
00:00:17big city, I have, I have a village and I won't
00:00:20die of hunger, such options of answers, you can also write your
00:00:24own options in the comments under
00:00:27the broadcast, well, and we... we will move
00:00:30on a bit and we still have a military
00:00:34topic ahead of us, a military
00:00:37one. I hope we already have our next
00:00:40interlocutor, and now we will talk
00:00:43about very interesting appointments,
00:00:47appointments
00:00:48of
00:00:52the new head of our defense forces, I mean
00:00:56the commander-in-chief Drap. Chief
00:00:59of Staff of the 11th Army Corps
00:01:03Brigadier General Serhii Sobko will likely
00:01:06become deputy of the new commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces Mykhailo
00:01:09Drapov. As of early August 26, the general
00:01:13has already been seconded to the General Staff, where he is currently performing
00:01:17the duties of deputy, but is still awaiting official
00:01:21approval by presidential decree and final distribution
00:01:24of powers. Sobko's appointment came shortly after his
00:01:28resonant public criticism of the personnel system
00:01:31of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The officer openly stated that
00:01:35personal loyalty in the army began to outweigh professional
00:01:38competence, and commanders are forced to think about
00:01:41avoiding punishment instead of performing combat
00:01:45missions, and despite this sharp criticism, after the change
00:01:48of commander-in-chief, he will likely
00:01:52receive such a promotion. General Sobko and Bogdan
00:01:55Bachynsky, editor-in-chief of the site, join
00:01:58us. Bohdan,
00:02:26about Mr. Sobko, about General Sobko, what can
00:02:29we say about him? Why so many military personnel today
00:02:32write to my acquaintances that this is good news? Well, first
00:02:36of all, it should be noted that there is already
00:02:39practically an official appointment, today on the information
00:02:42resources of the Ministry of Defense there was a message that during
00:02:46the meeting of the Minister of Defense Yevhen Khmara with
00:02:50his British counterpart, Serhii Sobko was already
00:02:54present at this meeting in
00:02:57the capacity of acting
00:03:00deputy commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, that is,
00:03:04we understand that some documents still need to be signed, but in fact, he has already
00:03:08taken up his duties.
00:03:12What do we know about him? First
00:03:15of all, we know that he is a Hero of Ukraine,
00:03:18he was awarded the Hero of Ukraine
00:03:21by President
00:03:23Poroshenko
00:03:26after Serhii Sobko twice led
00:03:30units of the Armed
00:03:33Forces out of encirclement within the ATO.
00:03:37One time this happened in Luhansk region, near
00:03:39Savur-Mohyla, and the second time in Donetsk region, near
00:03:42Debaltseve. That is, he participated in battles both in Debaltseve and
00:03:46Savur-Mohyla. That's right.
00:03:49Later, he
00:03:53received simply excellent
00:03:56education in the USA. At the
00:03:59Command and Staff College in the USA, he
00:04:02has excellent English language skills,
00:04:06you definitely cannot call him a Soviet general, he is a
00:04:09new type of general, he is a general
00:04:12who is not afraid to criticize, as you
00:04:15mentioned earlier, he is a general who is ready for reforms and proposes various
00:04:19reforms,
00:04:22and the full-scale invasion found
00:04:26him in the position of Chief of Staff of the Territorial Defense Forces,
00:04:30specifically in the city of Kyiv, he was one of those
00:04:33who led the defense of Kyiv, as a commandant,
00:04:37команданта,
00:04:41and already in March, including for the defense of Kyiv, he
00:04:44received the rank of brigadier
00:04:51involved in the development of territorial
00:04:54defense, and this is very important in modern conditions, because
00:04:58at that time,
00:05:00territorial defense units were
00:05:04accepting civilians who had
00:05:06mostly no relation
00:05:09to the armed forces and no military
00:05:12experience. That is, Sobko actually
00:05:15established the acceptance,
00:05:19training, and further equipping
00:05:22of the territorial defense forces and their further integration into the armed
00:05:26forces. We know there was some criticism
00:05:29regarding territorial defense, but we also know several excellent
00:05:33territorial defense brigades, for example, the 103rd brigade, which
00:05:36consistently ranks among the top ten best
00:05:40in destroying Russians, specifically
00:05:42with drones.
00:05:45This experience, as I understand it, is very useful
00:05:48now for the commander-in-chief, and he
00:05:51will
00:05:53continue it,
00:05:55especially given that we have problems with mobilization,
00:05:59mobilization processes need to be established,
00:06:03we need to conduct a dialogue with
00:06:06society so that
00:06:07щоби
00:06:11joining the army is more
00:06:15understandable, predictable, and
00:06:17there is no such critical mass of negativity as there is now,
00:06:21and Serhii Sobko's experience,
00:06:25his previous experience, indicates that he is very
00:06:29people-centric, he primarily thinks about
00:06:32the military, and it is obvious
00:06:35that having such a certain
00:06:39reformer's mindset, his wisdom will
00:06:43contribute to the fulfillment of those
00:06:47promises that Mykhailo Drapatyi took upon
00:06:50himself, including establishing the mobilization
00:06:53process. Can we say that in principle
00:06:57some structural changes
00:06:59are happening now, what is the focus, or can we already
00:07:02say who Drapatyi will bet on and what he will bet on
00:07:06after Syrskyi?
00:07:09We can highlight several trends.
00:07:12The first trend is that the command
00:07:15of the Armed
00:07:18Forces of Ukraine is being joined by generals
00:07:20who have passed their main combat path
00:07:24and grew up, became generals, actually
00:07:27during the time of Zaluzhny's command,
00:07:30that is, this is a new generation
00:07:34of generals who have proven themselves on the battlefield and demonstrated
00:07:38their best qualities as commanders.
00:07:41The second part is a certain
00:07:43people-centric approach. Mykhailo Drapatyi, well, everyone
00:07:47notes that he cares about the personnel, and
00:07:50he very often repeats
00:07:54this phrase that the command is a certain
00:07:57service for the soldier who is directly at
00:08:00the front, and the team that
00:08:03he chooses obviously shares similar
00:08:06values. I will remind you that recently he also
00:08:09returned Shamil Krutkov
00:08:14to command, who was previously removed
00:08:17from, who was the commander of the 93rd
00:08:20Cold Yar Brigade, who
00:08:24was removed from this position. We will not,
00:08:27well, it is not important why, but now Mykhailo
00:08:31Drapatyi has returned him.
00:08:34Shamil Krutkov is also known for
00:08:37his great
00:08:39care for the personnel, and also for the fact
00:08:43that he lives by war, that is, everyone notes that he is a person
00:08:46who has dedicated his life to war as much as possible,
00:08:50and such people are now needed for
00:08:53us to withstand this Russian
00:08:56invasion. Finally, I hear a lot from career soldiers
00:09:00about how important the sergeant
00:09:03link in the army is, and how neglected it has been
00:09:06lately. I read, like many others, that Valeriy
00:09:10Markus might return to the position
00:09:13of chief sergeant, but to specifically reform
00:09:17this link itself, the very institute
00:09:19of sergeants. Well, it is also interesting that
00:09:22Serhii Sobko, while serving
00:09:26under the command of territorial defense, he introduced
00:09:29the so-called school of captains, that is, a school
00:09:33for junior command staff, for
00:09:35commanders of companies, platoons,
00:09:38battalions. At that time, at the beginning, a not very large
00:09:41number of
00:09:44reserve officers joined the army, they had theoretical knowledge, but they never
00:09:48had any practical experience, and actually this
00:09:51school of captains helped
00:09:54to train a very large number of
00:09:57successful junior officers,
00:10:00and accordingly, we see that
00:10:03this is a certain priority that
00:10:07Mykhailo Drapatyi is pursuing in his work, including
00:10:10appointing
00:10:12the chief sergeant of the armed forces, Valeriy
00:10:16Markus. Well, for now, we know, we only hear rumors about this appointment,
00:10:19but we know that Markus
00:10:23was the ideologue of the 47th Magura
00:10:26Brigade, which was one of
00:10:29the first, well, which participated in the counteroffensive in 2023.
00:10:33At that time, he was known for certain leadership qualities,
00:10:36he talked a lot about how to develop
00:10:40the sergeant direction, and obviously,
00:10:43his certain
00:10:46values are the same values as Mykhailo
00:10:49Drapatov. Thank you, Bohdan, Bohdan Bachynsky, editor-in-chief
00:10:53of the site, was with us.
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00:14:36The world has changed, a real war has intertwined with a hybrid
00:14:39war, fakes change reality, this is ordinary senseless
00:14:43propaganda, like in Soviet times. Vitaliy Portnikov and the host
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00:15:33in the evening on Espreso.
00:15:40and we continue, and now let's talk a little about what
00:15:44happened in the court
00:15:46process, which concerns the suspicion
00:15:50of corrupt actions of
00:15:53ex-vice prime minister, ex-minister of Justice and
00:15:56ex-ambassador to the United States Olga
00:16:00Stefanyshyna. Our correspondent journalist Dmytro Didora
00:16:04was at the trial and knows all the details and knows where, probably,
00:16:07Ms. Stefanyshyna is now.
00:16:11Dmytro, hello, over to
00:16:12you.
00:16:15Hello Andriy, hello to our viewers. Indeed, today
00:16:19a preventive measure was chosen for Olga
00:16:21Stefanyshyna, she was assigned
00:16:25bail in the amount of 6 million. I noted
00:16:28that the prosecution asked for over
00:16:3113 million. In their opinion, these
00:16:34were the damages caused to the state. And
00:16:38during the court proceedings, journalists
00:16:41and the public learned what exactly
00:16:45Olga Stefanyshyna is being accused of in this
00:16:48new suspicion. I will only note that this is
00:16:51illegal enrichment and incorrect
00:16:54declaration. According to the investigation, Ms. Stefanyshyna purchased
00:16:57two apartments in the Fayna
00:17:01Town residential complex. This is
00:17:04an expensive residential complex in the capital.
00:17:07And she did this through her best
00:17:11friend, and also repairs were carried out
00:17:14in these apartments. Another reason
00:17:18was the apartment she rented in the very
00:17:21center of the capital on Yaroslaviv Val Street, Golden
00:17:25Gate, and according to the investigation, the rent was
00:17:28over 100 dollars
00:17:31(1300, it seems) per month and was paid in
00:17:35cash. The prosecution also
00:17:39read out letters between Olga Stefanyshyna's
00:17:42assistant and her
00:17:46and the landlord about the payment for this
00:17:49apartment. In particular, it also concerns the Mercedes-Benz
00:17:53car, which, according to the investigation,
00:17:56Olga Stefanyshyna purchased herself,
00:17:59but it was not indicated in the declaration. She purchased
00:18:03it in 2021, for 43.
00:18:10Evidence indicates that she used the car, these are receipts
00:18:14for
00:18:17traffic violations and the fact that she used
00:18:21parking in one of the residential complexes, also
00:18:24such interesting information, as it seems to me, turned out to be that during
00:18:28the court hearing we learned about the moment
00:18:32of influence on the selection
00:18:35of the head of NAZK. Yes, we yesterday, we
00:18:38yesterday, we talked about it yesterday, so as not to repeat myself, I
00:18:41will only ask very briefly, where is she now, has she been
00:18:45released, or is she now in
00:18:46custody?
00:18:49As far as I understand, because it was
00:18:53said that this is bail, and if there is bail, then most
00:18:57likely this information still needs to be clarified, but maybe
00:19:00she was sent to custody,
00:19:03the former ambassador to the USA
00:19:06from Ukraine, because... because simply bail is not assigned, I don't
00:19:09think the state simply needs money to collect it from
00:19:13Olga Stefanyshyna, but bail is usually assigned
00:19:17when a person is sent to custody. Absolutely, thank you very much for
00:19:20this story, Dmytro Didora, our journalist, was with us, well, and now we will
00:19:24talk a little with Maryna Danylyuk Yermalayeva, our co-host,
00:19:27colleague, colleague,
00:19:31about a political aspect of this
00:19:34story. Many people now say that... she was generally
00:19:38blamed for such trifles, my God, two apartments, we have
00:19:41Mindyche and so on, there is probably some rational grain in
00:19:45this, although on the other hand, this story,
00:19:48in particular with the influence on the appointment of the head of NAZK, many
00:19:52people recall now how she, when she was still
00:19:55vice-prime minister for European integration, it seems, how she
00:19:58said that no, we don't need any competitions, and so
00:20:01on, all those foreign experts, foreign independent participants
00:20:05of tender commissions, and... Now this also sheds some light. Maryna Danyliuk
00:20:09Yermalayeva is already with us. Maryna, hello, did it cause you some
00:20:13sympathy and empathy when
00:20:15the former vice-prime minister cried in the courtroom?
00:20:19суду?
00:20:22Andriy, hello, one can purely humanly
00:20:26sympathize, a person crying is bad, you wouldn't wish
00:20:29that even on an enemy, to sit there in that glass
00:20:33cube in the High Anti-Corruption Court, and have
00:20:36a measure of restraint chosen for you. Purely humanly,
00:20:39Stefanyshyna is to be pitied, because I remind you that for a long time she was
00:20:43Bankova's favorite and one of Volodymyr Oleksandrovych
00:20:46Zelenskyy's political favorites. And I remind you
00:20:50that a year ago, among a number of candidates
00:20:53close to Zelenskyy, the candidacy of the Ambassador
00:20:57of Ukraine to the United States of America was suddenly chosen, and Olga Stefanyshyna
00:21:01was very pleased to go to diplomatic service, but
00:21:05her diplomatic service did not last that long, and now we
00:21:08understand the reason, because NABU and SAPO were preparing
00:21:11a suspicion for her, and at that moment, when you really want to
00:21:15sympathize with Olga Stefanyshyna, I really advise
00:21:18you to read the materials from the courtroom
00:21:21that have already been leaked to the press, namely, that Olga
00:21:25Stefanyshyna bought expensive
00:21:29property, apartments, cars, and
00:21:32traditionally, as Ukrainian officials very often
00:21:36do, she registered all this to her relatives and even to a friend, and this raises
00:21:40the question for me why they did this, because I
00:21:43remind you that she was one of the most professional government
00:21:46officials of that era, she is a person who
00:21:50headed the Ministry of Justice, she is a woman who at one
00:21:54time graduated from Kyiv National University,
00:21:57received a good education, speaks English well, well, that is, it
00:22:01seems to me that she would have had enough sense and money to hire
00:22:05a declaration consultant and do all this beautifully, and not
00:22:08register all this to random people and attract
00:22:12unnecessary attention from anti-corruption bodies, but
00:22:15the worst thing discussed during the VAC session was that
00:22:19Olga Stefani... already during the full-scale
00:22:22invasion, managed these competitions
00:22:25regarding the selection of the heads of our
00:22:28anti-corruption infrastructure
00:22:31manually. There is a very interesting
00:22:34episode from 2022. I remind you that in 2022,
00:22:38we barely drove the Russians away from
00:22:41Kyiv, there were battles for Kharkiv region, there were
00:22:45battles for Kherson, and it turns out that we then had
00:22:48competitions for the position of director of NABU, and Olga Stepanishyna
00:22:52sent to those commission members who
00:22:55are from the authorities and advised who should
00:22:59have their scores lowered, and who, on the contrary, should be raised in this ranking,
00:23:02and one of the favorites,
00:23:06for whom she put in a good word, was a rather
00:23:10well-known Pavlo Kyrylenko. I will remind you who this is,
00:23:13this is a person who headed
00:23:16the Anti-Monopoly Committee of Ukraine, before that,
00:23:19by the way, he was the head of the State
00:23:23Property Fund, and even before that, the head of the Donetsk
00:23:26Military-Civil Administration, and when this man, by the way, was pushed
00:23:29for the position of head
00:23:32of the Anti-Monopoly Committee of Ukraine, then
00:23:35many specialists,
00:23:38many anti-corruption activists, by the way, wrote that it might not
00:23:41be worth pushing such a person, because he has many relatives
00:23:45in the occupied territories, namely in
00:23:48the territory not controlled.
00:23:56and his own brother, by the way, works in the security
00:23:59agencies of DNR, and by the way, his mother and
00:24:03brother gave interviews to Russian media, where they did not hide that they are completely
00:24:07comfortable in the "Russian world", and President
00:24:10Zelenskyy completely turned a blind eye to all this
00:24:14data, and there was even his public comment that it
00:24:17does not matter what relatives this person has, the result
00:24:21is important to us, and so Pavlo Kyrylenko was pushed
00:24:24to this position, and let's imagine the situation if it
00:24:27had worked out, we can add about Kyrylenko that he is also
00:24:30under investigation by NABU together with his wife, also a lot of cars,
00:24:34a lot of apartments in Uzhhorod, they bought half a block there, well, in short,
00:24:38he sold raspberries, he sold raspberries well with his parents, as he
00:24:41said, so where to get such
00:24:44raspberry seedlings to buy half of Zhyk in
00:24:48Uzhhorod, but... Imagine the situation if
00:24:51Stefanishyna and her accomplices had managed to push Pavlo
00:24:55Kyrylenko to the position of NABU director, then we
00:24:58would never have heard or seen Mindich's tapes, these
00:25:02details, how we have embezzlement
00:25:04that happened with the help
00:25:08of the Dynastia cooperative in the Ministry of Energy, well,
00:25:11that is, you can imagine, and the most terrible thing is that Olga Stefanyshyna, I remind you that this is a person
00:25:15who for a long time was responsible for European integration,
00:25:19and at that moment, when Ursula
00:25:22von der Leyen, the European Commission, or
00:25:25various officials from Brussels, Marta Kosa, constantly tell us that,
00:25:28friends, you need to hold honest, transparent
00:25:31competitions for the heads of your law enforcement agencies, please hold
00:25:35a competition for the position of Prosecutor General, finally reform
00:25:39the SBI, details emerge of how a person
00:25:42who was responsible for European integration manually
00:25:45ordered who should have their scores lowered, because they are an independent
00:25:48candidate, and... on the contrary, to raise him in this rating, and this
00:25:52is actually terrible,
00:25:55this shows that we have a person who on the surface can talk
00:25:58about clusters of European integration,
00:26:01secretly... doing everything so that Marta Kost then comes
00:26:05to us and says: "But you are not reaching
00:26:08European integration, Moldova is doing better." But I just know, we don't have
00:26:12time actually, I just have a question, did she herself come up with
00:26:15that this is how it should be said, that this is what NAZK will be, or did someone
00:26:19just tell her who should be there?
00:26:23Well, yes, let's assume that it
00:26:26was clearly not her, she was a cog in this system, and again
00:26:30for'. As for the objects she did not
00:26:34declare in her name, one can assume that it was
00:26:38not free. Well, thank you very much for those important, very
00:26:42details to the really sad story of Mrs.
00:26:45Stefanishyna, well and in the meantime we move
00:26:49on, we have a wonderful story,
00:26:52touching Ukrainian emergency workers saved a baby
00:26:55fawn during the liquidation of a large forest
00:26:58fire in France, the State Emergency Service reports this, it is noted:
00:27:02that the little fawn had burnt hooves, could not
00:27:06walk on its own, run away from the fire,
00:27:09our firefighters and rescuers
00:27:13saved the unfortunate animal, it will
00:27:17live, it will run, everything will be fine with it. Well, I remind you
00:27:20that at the end of July 70 Ukrainian rescuers
00:27:24went to France to help extinguish large
00:27:45ask what is really happening there, Khrystyna Pertsovych,
00:27:48spokesperson of the Main Department of the State Emergency Service of Ivano-Frankivsk region, joins
00:27:51us, Mrs. Khrystyna, I greet you,
00:27:55hello, what is happening
00:27:58with our, with our, with our
00:28:02work in France right now, what are the news
00:28:05from the report?
00:28:08Well, in France, a combined unit of the State Emergency Service of Ukraine is currently working, as it was
00:28:11noted, the unit includes 70 rescuers and 15
00:28:15units of specialized equipment, these are fire trucks, cargo
00:28:18vehicles, a medical vehicle,
00:28:21if we talk about the tasks that Ukrainian
00:28:25rescuers received, considerable
00:28:28attention is paid to extinguishing fires
00:28:31in separate foci, watering the territory,
00:28:35localizing smoldering and controlling areas where the fire can
00:28:38resume, as well as creating
00:28:41a safe perimeter and preventing the spread of flames to
00:28:45settlements, economic facilities, as well
00:28:49as young forest plantations and other vulnerable
00:28:52territories, in particular, Ukrainian rescuers
00:28:55received the task of restraining the spread of fire in the direction
00:28:58of the Horse Center, to protect
00:29:01young. plantations, work is carried out directly, both in
00:29:05the forest, and these are areas with quite high
00:29:09soil temperature, smoke, a large number
00:29:12of hidden foci of burning. Do the French
00:29:16have anything to learn from our rescuers, in your opinion, you have
00:29:19probably communicated with colleagues from
00:29:21France,
00:29:25well, they always approach us, they try
00:29:29to communicate with us, they.
00:29:32at first appreciated our very high
00:29:36organization and efficiency and speed
00:29:39of work execution, it was noted during
00:29:42the meeting in the department of Gironde that they were first of all
00:29:46surprised by how an organized, quick and
00:29:49clear column of rescuers arrived, how quickly
00:29:52we start extinguishing
00:29:55fires and how we can work in
00:29:59various difficult conditions, we share with them
00:30:02how to
00:30:05extinguish fires, particularly in ecosystems in
00:30:08the absence
00:30:10of sufficient water supply, in conditions when
00:30:13it is not enough, when it is impossible to involve
00:30:17aviation, when the flames spread
00:30:20very quickly, this is experience gained in our
00:30:23extremely difficult conditions, as a result of a full-scale
00:30:27invasion, well, and finally I ask,
00:30:30how long will this mission last? and when
00:30:33will our rescuers
00:30:36return to Ukraine.
00:30:39Well, we cannot say specific deadlines
00:30:42now, how much the
00:30:45operational situation will stabilize, how much the
00:30:48French side will need
00:30:51our involvement. Well, thank you very much, Khrystyna
00:30:55Pertsovych, spokeswoman of the Main Department of the State Emergency Service in
00:30:58Ivano-Frankivsk region, was with us, I remind you that 70%