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00:00:00detailed, scrupulous moments should automatically be worked out, but it,
00:00:03unfortunately, begins to take on a systemic nature, and is there
00:00:07any tendency to correct it, we have already spoken
00:00:11many times with practicing legal
00:00:14people who point to these points where
00:00:18formally they didn't play, the date doesn't match,
00:00:21changes were made, and it now applies to all
00:00:25cases that occurred after the changes were made, but not
00:00:28those very same ones that were literally a week before
00:00:32that, so do you see a tendency now that after our conversations
00:00:35like today with you, after that someone
00:00:39tries to fix something?
00:00:42In fact, all this is corrected at a later stage, because there is
00:00:46the concept of judicial practice, and when you constantly
00:00:49practice, you already understand in principle what the court's decision
00:00:53will be approximately in such a case, because judicial practice is already being formed, for
00:00:56example, I recalled today about alcohol, it is clear
00:00:59that... if there is a hit in the dugout and nothing is left of the
00:01:03person's body, then accordingly, whether there were those 50
00:01:07grams of alcohol or not, it would not matter, because
00:01:11the person could not have survived, and the state's position in this case is not
00:01:14to pay anything, so in fact, the position of judges and judicial
00:01:18practice is that no, this alcohol did not lead to death, or also people who
00:01:21are in the Armed Forces, there are also many nuances with the dead who
00:01:25die in military service due to illness, and all
00:01:28this is actually already... in courts resolved and executed, but
00:01:32at the pre-trial stage, when you apply
00:01:35voluntarily, or when you ask to make some changes to
00:01:39a regulatory act or some changes at the level of a military unit, then unfortunately, this is
00:01:42met with great caution,
00:01:45therefore, one of the most positive
00:01:49moments among all this is that the courts have actually
00:01:52taken on the burden of correcting these
00:01:55shortcomings that exist now in military units and
00:01:59in general in the matter... of military justice.
00:02:03Here, the ombudsman makes such predictions that after the end of the war,
00:02:06the number of veterans, female veterans, may range from 5 to
00:02:106.5 million, and this will actually
00:02:13determine state policy in all spheres for the next 30
00:02:16years, and they say that Ukrainians are already
00:02:19far, well, certainly not 52 million, moreover, they say that
00:02:23these figures just need to be swapped, somewhere around
00:02:2625 million, some such closed figures are named, well, and...
00:02:30if we have from 5 to 6.5 million, listen,
00:02:33this is a huge number of people in our
00:02:37society,
00:02:39actually, I would very clearly, I would very clearly differentiate veteran
00:02:43policy and social protection, because not every veteran is wounded, not every
00:02:47veteran needs some kind of deep social
00:02:50protection with payments and so on, so we need to approach this process
00:02:54individually, what is veteran policy, well, in my understanding, these are those
00:02:58measures that will allow a person to... socialize, return to civilian
00:03:01life, find a job, work, start a business, have some
00:03:05possible benefits from the state, because after all, you gave your time and health to this state,
00:03:09so give me benefits, for example, some tax holidays and so on, so that I can
00:03:13start doing something, and the social block, this is about
00:03:16those families who have lost their family
00:03:19members, this is what concerns wounded servicemen who have received
00:03:23disability groups, who have lost the degree of loss
00:03:26of working capacity, well, of course, there are six or 5 million
00:03:30people, well, I doubt, based on the assessment that
00:03:33is currently given in the public space, that there will be such a large number, so this needs to be
00:03:36delimited, our task, a purely legal task
00:03:40- is to help this category with social
00:03:43protection, and here there are mechanisms how to do it, and
00:03:46how to do it, then first of all, in my opinion, today
00:03:50this paper document flow is a waste of time and
00:03:54a waste of money, digitalization, personal
00:03:56responsibility of those officials who make
00:04:00decisions, because very often it happens, they laugh in our faces at the military enlistment office, there
00:04:04is some woman who accepts documents, you are not entitled to anything, so go
00:04:07home, and we return it through the courts a year later, people receive millions of hryvnias, I
00:04:11come and say, how are we not entitled to anything, they are just
00:04:14laughing, there should be responsibility for such laughter, so
00:04:18in fact, our position now of the legal community is such
00:04:22that there should be proper systemic mechanisms of assistance in this
00:04:25category of social protection, yes, indeed. For
00:04:29the volume of people who need it, this system now needs
00:04:32radical changes. Mr. Yevhen, please tell me, because if you talk
00:04:35to people who had someone from their family
00:04:39fighting and
00:04:42died, then they say that there is such a
00:04:46practice, I don't know if it really looks like that in life,
00:04:49that it is easier to declare this person
00:04:53missing, because in this way there is no need to return
00:04:57any funds, compensation for the loss of a breadwinner.
00:05:01And so now there is a problem with payments, so
00:05:05mostly, mostly people, even
00:05:08people who lose their loved ones in the war, at the front. They
00:05:12are no longer even so concerned about these funds, of course, as they are about getting
00:05:15the body or remains of this person,
00:05:19to be able to bury them and have that place to
00:05:22come and talk to them somehow, and then you can't get anything,
00:05:25that's the easiest thing to do, and as for
00:05:29the missing person, unfortunately, the system for searching for a person is
00:05:32complex, because the military unit is not authorized to search, searching
00:05:36is currently authorized by the national police, where a
00:05:40criminal proceeding is opened under the relevant article. For general
00:05:43understanding, one investigator of some
00:05:46district police department in eastern Ukraine can
00:05:50have a hundred, probably not one thousand such cases, so what
00:05:54quality of search can there be for such a person, well, at least to simply find out
00:05:58the last mobile phone call and so on, that is, there are currently
00:06:01women, for example, who actively work with this and achieve,
00:06:05for example, finding out the exact location of
00:06:08the potential body of a person, then they already involve the resources
00:06:11of the military. unit, including drones to see if the
00:06:15body is actually there, that is, people stimulate this themselves, people do
00:06:19this themselves, so the system for searching for a body lies on the shoulders of the national
00:06:22police today, not the military unit, and all
00:06:26this together gives the family the opportunity, in fact,
00:06:29the worst moment that exists today is to undermine this
00:06:33social component for people, and this is all a matter of
00:06:37trust, this is all a matter of trust in the state, in the army, in people, so
00:06:40this moment is very important. And you correctly noted that
00:06:44missing - this is an order that the person
00:06:48is recognized as missing, in practice that's it. After that,
00:06:51deal with the issue yourself, in fact, or declare the individual deceased in
00:06:55court, or wait until,
00:06:58perhaps, DNA matches. We had a case when DNA matched, three
00:07:02years ago, the body was buried in Dnipropetrovsk
00:07:05region in a communal cemetery, and
00:07:08here my wife and I spent three years declaring him deceased by court order, death certificate.
00:07:12Other processes, they forgot to call us, well, that
00:07:15also happens, and you now there is another
00:07:18reality, until at least the 13th, we do not
00:07:22have an answer to the question of how the wild budget deficit will be covered,
00:07:2637 billion, as they say, this figure
00:07:30alone, and not hryvnias, it
00:07:33simply led the government to insane
00:07:36savings, and many areas are simply
00:07:40not financed, that is, it means money. would formally be accrued as a figure,
00:07:43but payments are simply suspended, do you
00:07:47also have new cases now, when they actually say, "there's no money, but
00:07:50hold on," that is, this option, have you
00:07:54already encountered
00:07:56this?
00:07:59And I'll tell you frankly, this thought constantly accompanies
00:08:02me when people turn to me regarding social payments, either for
00:08:06a deceased person or a missing person, because there is no other logical explanation
00:08:10why, for example, a simple
00:08:13matter, there is an appointment, payments, all documents are there, what's the problem,
00:08:17no other qualification or other logical thought can exist, it
00:08:20seems that, indeed, due to this budget
00:08:24deficit, due to these moments, I'll tell you more,
00:08:27yesterday we received a decision from the regional
00:08:30medical commission (VLC), where a person died and their death
00:08:33was recorded as defending the homeland, after 2.5 years,
00:08:37the regional VLC, which is overwhelmed with current work up to
00:08:40its neck, makes a decision to review its previous decision and
00:08:44cancels the record of defending the homeland, and what does this mean for the budget,
00:08:48it's the cancellation of the so-called black certificate, social payments,
00:08:51pensions, and further down the list, that is, probably these
00:08:55measures are still logically connected with this
00:08:58absence, or with the budget deficit. Ugh. Mr.
00:09:01Yevhen, thank you for all these explanations, Yevhen Filipets, military
00:09:05lawyer, was with us on the line, we talked a bit about
00:09:08what our military says, that they feel...
00:09:13offended, superfluous, because the state does not protect their
00:09:16rights, and how, after all, these rights can be protected, now
00:09:20we will talk about what Trump did, and how we will
00:09:24live with all this, Ihor Eisenberg, professor at Manhattan University, how
00:09:28America lives with this, it's also interesting to hear, Mr. Ihor, we welcome
00:09:31you,
00:09:35Espresso, thank you for inviting me, yes, we already see and hear you, and what about
00:09:39America's reaction to all this, because honestly speaking, Ukrainians somehow...
00:09:43were just very surprised, and so were Europeans,
00:09:46we see a whole parade of statements about what
00:09:49America will do about Trump's latest stunt to agree with
00:09:53Putin on diesel
00:09:55supplies? Well, I'll
00:09:58tell you, you might be surprised that in America this is not
00:10:02front-page news, although, although it is discussed, well, and
00:10:05again, you understand, America is divided into
00:10:09those who love Donald Trump and those who don't love him,
00:10:12accordingly, and the reaction, well,
00:10:15I'm sure you, you've already
00:10:19quoted, probably, what Senator Blumenthal said about
00:10:23this, well, and other
00:10:25democratic politicians comment similarly that this is,
00:10:28so wait, do I understand correctly, there are
00:10:31Americans who are fine with Trump having
00:10:35made a deal with Putin, and they're okay with it, and they even loved
00:10:39Trump more after that, let's say, MAGA and
00:10:42experienced Republicans, how did they
00:10:45perceive this? Mr. Roman, I would not separate
00:10:49MAGA and experienced Republicans today, because
00:10:52the Republican party is simply swallowed up
00:10:55by the MAGA movement, and those
00:10:59experienced Republicans, well, either left the party,
00:11:02or are silent,
00:11:05and not a single word will we hear
00:11:08from them, but they just went to a different place, such an experienced
00:11:11Republican, former Congressman Adam Kinzinger, for example, he
00:11:15actually conducts a pre-election campaign supporting Democratic
00:11:19candidates in the congressional elections,
00:11:23that is, today.
00:11:25that Republican party that once was, well, it doesn't
00:11:28exist, there's the MAGA party, and there, well,
00:11:32there's a small minority that mostly keeps silent. Mr. Igor, on
00:11:36Facebook just, well,
00:11:38a minute before our conversation with you, among
00:11:42friends,
00:11:44in America, a post: dear Ukrainian-American
00:11:48diaspora, what should we do with the fact that we
00:11:52will now practically, through Russian...
00:11:55diesel, will support the killing
00:11:59of Ukrainians, and a question mark, and
00:12:02what to answer American citizens
00:12:05of Ukrainian
00:12:08origin? Well, what to answer, you see, I also
00:12:11consider myself an American citizen of Ukrainian
00:12:14origin, for me, for me this is a disgrace,
00:12:17shame, and for people who have the same views as I do, and this
00:12:21is not necessarily a person who must have Ukrainian
00:12:25origin, because this is truly a disgrace, this will
00:12:28be studied in history textbooks of the United States as a disgrace.
00:12:32Did this add, did this add
00:12:35to Trump those points he dreams of in the
00:12:38elections? Of course not, because
00:12:41let's just
00:12:44analyze, let's try for
00:12:47a minute to disconnect from emotions, and
00:12:51let's analyze what this can give? Look, before
00:12:55Ukraine started striking Russian oil refineries,
00:12:58Russia exported approximately
00:13:02from 3 million tons of diesel fuel
00:13:05to 3.3 million tons per month.
00:13:09Now in Russia, Russia does not export
00:13:12diesel fuel, Putin banned its
00:13:15export in the summer. That's on one hand. On the
00:13:18other hand, the United States of America has
00:13:22so much diesel fuel that they
00:13:25export, not import, they export monthly
00:13:28from 5 to 6 million tons, including now in October, the United
00:13:32States will export up to 6 million tons of this diesel, because
00:13:36there is no shortage of diesel in the United States, there
00:13:39is a lot of it, diesel fuel
00:13:43is expensive, but because the
00:13:46Strait of Hormuz is blocked, because of that, the price of
00:13:49oil is high, the price of diesel fuel depends on the price of
00:13:53oil, and not on whether Putin will export
00:13:57300,000 tons of diesel, look, this is
00:14:01less than about, this is less than 10% of
00:14:04the volume that Russia exported half a year
00:14:07ago. Has the price of
00:14:10oil changed in the last six months? Well, it fluctuated a bit less,
00:14:14a bit more, but around 100 dollars per barrel, and
00:14:18nothing will change from that. Trump,
00:14:21of course, he thinks about the election campaign, because...
00:14:25November elections, Republicans are on track
00:14:28to lose these elections, and he does everything
00:14:32he believes he can do to
00:14:35convince voters that he cares
00:14:38about them, voters, of course, are very
00:14:42dissatisfied with high fuel prices, because fuel prices
00:14:46determine all other prices, and
00:14:49for example, high prices for diesel fuel determine that
00:14:53all food products... they become more expensive, because
00:14:57agriculture simply uses
00:15:00diesel fuel, if farmers have
00:15:03to pay a lot, then they include in the price of their
00:15:07products what they have to pay for this diesel, and in such
00:15:10farming states as Iowa and Kansas,
00:15:14Republicans are currently on the way to a very possible
00:15:18defeat in the Senate elections, imagine in
00:15:20Kansas the last time a Democrat won a Senate election
00:15:24was in 1932, and now they might
00:15:28win, it's 50/50, so this is an absolutely
00:15:32red Republican state, Trump is trying to prevent
00:15:35this, but he just. well,
00:15:38voters, look, they fill up their cars, they
00:15:41will see that the price doesn't change, despite all these statements
00:15:45from Trump, the price doesn't change, so from the point
00:15:48of view, from the point of view of electoral propaganda, it's
00:15:51a bluff, from the point of view of influence on world
00:15:54oil prices, it's a bluff, but from the point
00:15:57of view, from the point of view of how the United States looks,
00:16:01of course, it's a shame, and it's a real shame, Mr.
00:16:04Ihor, look... you say that on
00:16:08the front pages of the American press
00:16:11the diesel show by the Nobel Peace Prize winner
00:16:14from the Football Association FIFA didn't
00:16:18work, and we saw how
00:16:21the president in his social media
00:16:24said, "You misunderstood me," and to understand me
00:16:27correctly, it should have been like this, and this was part
00:16:30of his election tour: San
00:16:34Diego and Los Angeles are wrong. states, it
00:16:37would be great if, as part of our peace deal with Iran, they
00:16:41blew up these cities with missiles, now he says: it's all fake
00:16:45news, it's not like that, but this is the first time in human history, in my opinion,
00:16:49when a president of some nation
00:16:52allows the destruction of his
00:16:56citizens just because they have
00:16:59different views, and they vote for the wrong
00:17:03people, was this
00:17:06news... on the front
00:17:10pages of the media, how did society in general, what's on the front
00:17:13pages of American newspapers now? This
00:17:16news, about which Mr. Roman just
00:17:19asked, yes, it was on the front pages, I discussed
00:17:23it for two days, Trump repeated it twice, that is, he said it once,
00:17:26then the next day he repeated it again,
00:17:29but you know, he has in
00:17:32his head what a very
00:17:36prominent American journalist, Carl Bernstein, described back in January
00:17:392017 as a cold
00:17:42civil war, he has that in his head, because he constantly
00:17:46proclaims that Democrats are internal
00:17:49enemies, that he is fighting them because they
00:17:52are internal enemies, so in his head this is a normal
00:17:56statement, he just said it and said
00:17:59it, because this was him transmitting the stream of his
00:18:02consciousness, which is real, and
00:18:05what's on the front pages today... well, in the United
00:18:08States again Boriviy, who has already
00:18:12hit the southern coast in
00:18:15Florida, in Mississippi, in Alabama, in the southern states in Alabama,
00:18:19and this is being discussed, because there, you know, a natural disaster
00:18:23is a natural disaster, it always interests
00:18:27people, well, and there really, really, this, this, this disaster can,
00:18:30can, can be destruction,
00:18:33can, can be a flood.
00:18:37But the news regarding Trump's conversation with
00:18:41Putin yesterday and Trump's tweet, well, it, as I said, is being discussed, although it is not
00:18:45the main news, the point is that we, we hear something
00:18:49like that from Trump every day, like his statements
00:18:52that he encouraged Iran to strike
00:18:55Los Angeles and San Diego, or, as
00:18:59he announced yesterday, that he had agreed with Putin, he
00:19:02had another wonderful conversation with Putin, and this is already
00:19:06the 16th time since he returned to the White House. Mr.
00:19:10Ihor, we have literally two minutes, and we asked everyone,
00:19:13we have to ask you too, we want to
00:19:17understand, well, the scenario of
00:19:20the new movie "The Day After
00:19:24Tomorrow," right, that is, what will
00:19:27happen after Donald Trump sees the election
00:19:30results, we are interested in the dimension of international,
00:19:34and specifically American politics.
00:19:37What about Ukraine in the context of the Russian-Ukrainian war, one minute,
00:19:41first, when he sees the election results, if
00:19:45they are not in favor of Republicans, not in his favor, he
00:19:48will fight the election results, just as he did
00:19:52in 2020 at the beginning of 2021, I have no
00:19:55doubt about that, so it will be a very hot autumn and
00:19:59a hot beginning of winter, because he will do everything possible and
00:20:03impossible to prevent in such a case the new
00:20:06Congress from gathering, when, yes, as by law it must
00:20:10gather on January 3, he will do everything possible and
00:20:14impossible to prevent this from happening,
00:20:16the impact, when the new Congress does gather, if Democrats
00:20:20have a majority in it, the impact on policy will be
00:20:23great, because Congress can have a great impact through
00:20:27its legislative activity, it can allow the executive
00:20:31branch to do something, or not allow it, and Congress will be dealing with a very
00:20:35important thing, investigating all corrupt... dealings of Trump, his
00:20:38family, his friends, his administration,
00:20:42and therefore the president understands that he may be in trouble, that's
00:20:45why he will fight the election
00:20:48results if they are unfavorable to him, that's why
00:20:52he does today, every day, what he does, such shameful
00:20:55statements as the one he made yesterday, conversations with Putin began. Mr.
00:20:59Ihor, thank you. Ihor Eisenberg, Professor of Manhattan
00:21:02University, was with us on the line and helped us understand what
00:21:06is happening in Trump's head and what he is doing. Friends, thank you for
00:21:09being with us, Lesya Vakulyuk, Roman Chaika are in the studio, tomorrow we will return to the studio at
00:21:134 PM, and you stay with Espresso. See
00:21:15you.
00:21:38The village of Ostriv, how the great water cut off Afanasiivka in
00:21:41Mykolaiv region.
00:21:45The water began to overflow the dam, it began
00:21:48to fill these ponds.
00:21:54and by evening they had already blown up this dam, what is
00:21:57there,
00:22:03it immediately rushed, in
00:22:05one hour we were already flooded,
00:22:08Afanasiivka became, yes, an island, yes,
00:22:12yes, tell Putin, thank you, and call him
00:22:15by the Russian word, the one they call him,
00:22:23how does flooded Afanasiivka live
00:22:25now after three years?
00:22:28it washed away with this plaster, everything was, everything
00:22:31was, all this was flooded, it was about
00:22:35well, yes, about this much, I even have 175 written in my documents,
00:22:39this was measured, it's
00:22:41not finished yet, because there's no money
00:22:43for it,
00:22:47and already the cellar, the mountain...
00:23:13Three years ago, many people in Ukraine and beyond learned about the village of Afanasiivka
00:23:16in Mykolaiv region due to the Kakhovka HPP dam
00:23:20on June 6, 2023,
00:23:22water surrounded the village on all sides. The settlement
00:23:26is surrounded on all sides by the Inhulets River, and during the rise in water level,
00:23:30it turned into an island, from which
00:23:32locals had to be evacuated by boats. Afanasiivka
00:23:36is the only village that currently has no land connection
00:23:40with the
00:23:43region. This village simply turned into an island, the water
00:23:47flooded locals' fields and homesteads, people lost their homes.
00:23:57Vasyl Khomko, a native of Afanasiivka, has lived here all his life,
00:24:00previously worked as a hydrologist at the state farm, later became
00:24:03the village head, says that he was informed about the destruction of the Kakhovka dam and possible
00:24:07flooding by the military administration of Afanasiivka,
00:24:10but people, according to him, mostly underestimated
00:24:14the threat.
00:24:19Everyone from the RGU. fell for this, but not too much,
00:24:22I would say, the population, well,
00:24:25as I said, we were already flooded in 1985
00:24:29and it flooded well, but people's houses were
00:24:33not flooded, these gardens were flooded, dams were
00:24:36flooded, yes, people
00:24:39walked through such markers along the dam,
00:24:43so that it was visible where one could drive, there was not much water, well, there was
00:24:46water like that and you could drive along the dam, that's the maximum. So
00:24:50that it was straight from Afanasiivka to the Kakhovka HPP
00:24:53almost 50 km, many people, according to the village head, simply
00:24:57did not believe that the water would reach them, because the most terrible in a long
00:25:01time in people's memory remained the March flood
00:25:04of 1985, then a lot of snow fell during the winter,
00:25:07in spring, rivers that overflowed their banks flooded many
00:25:11cities in the south and especially in the east of Ukraine,
00:25:15naturally, there was a lot of snow, ice
00:25:18it melted instantly and there was a lot
00:25:22of water, and in the Dnieper it was backed up, and the water
00:25:25here began to flow out of its banks, and that's
00:25:28how we had
00:25:31a flood.
00:25:33One of Vasyl Khomko's tasks was to regularly measure the water level
00:25:37in Afanasiivka. The first days after the dam explosion - says
00:25:40the headman, nothing indicated trouble.
00:25:43We measured, everyone was
00:25:46calm, the water arrived in, well, the river was...
00:25:50well, the river was full, the river
00:25:53was full, yes, it overflowed its banks a little into these
00:25:57clearings, and you could even
00:26:01I say and... because the fish came out to
00:26:04the shallows, and it was looking for some place
00:26:08for itself, yes, and people were even fishing
00:26:11there.
00:26:14Later, after the district leadership arrived in the village, explains
00:26:17Vasyl, there was still no threat of flooding
00:26:20homes.
00:26:24they looked and in their eyes, you could
00:26:27say, for the first time the water
00:26:31began to overflow... through the dam, well, that is, everything was still
00:26:34normal, the water through the dam began to fill these
00:26:38ponds. It seemed that the trouble in Afanasiivka had passed, but
00:26:41it happened, explains the former hydrologist Vasyl Khomko, that the village
00:26:45was flooded when the water went in the opposite direction, towards
00:26:49the destroyed dam. Then the waters of the Dnieper filled the Inhulets,
00:26:52which girds the village.
00:26:55When the water from the Dnieper flowed back along
00:26:58the Inhulets to us, it
00:27:01filled up. full right up to the dams, because these ponds that
00:27:05we have are protected by dams, protected by
00:27:08dams, and the water in
00:27:11the Inhulets river filled up so much that it went over the dam and began
00:27:15to fill these ponds, well, that is, the water is looking for
00:27:19a place for itself, a dish where it can overflow, and it began to fill the
00:27:22ponds, and the ponds are located
00:27:25around the village, that
00:27:28Afanasiivka, well, around the village, that is,
00:27:31like this and... and they first the water filled
00:27:35these ponds and then it began to
00:27:38rise
00:27:39simultaneously
00:27:45well, they said that, as those who know always say,
00:27:49that it will go along the channel and the whole village will not
00:27:52be affected, and in the evening they already blew up this
00:27:54dam, that those who remained with
00:27:58cows, those people who live outside the village, directly there outside the village at
00:28:01the brigade. and we drove here, already in the morning,
00:28:04that's it.
00:28:07These are shots from three years ago. The water rushed so quickly that almost no one
00:28:11in Afanasiivka managed to take out household appliances or furniture from
00:28:15their
00:28:15homes.
00:28:19Oh, my refrigerators are floating there, and televisions, everything is floating. Well,
00:28:23we won't go further, you can still here, I'll open it for you, now, if
00:28:27it works.
00:28:30Oh, this is all a refrigerator.
00:28:35Oh, here's a brand new one the children just bought, they haven't even paid off the
00:28:38loan yet. Oh, here's their furniture
00:28:41that floated up in that room where my grandson
00:28:44lives, a school desk, everything, a plasma TV,
00:28:48everything there, everything, so if
00:28:51you're going to show this on air, tell Putin "thank you" and
00:28:54call him by the Russian word that he
00:28:56is called.
00:29:14Yuriy Danylovych from Afanasiivka, the hero of many stories from that time, willingly
00:29:18told journalists about the flood and showed his damaged
00:29:21farm. His house and outbuildings in
00:29:252023 were flooded almost up to
00:29:27the roofs. So that's the kind of help we got from
00:29:31the fraternal people. And about 80 houses, probably, if not
00:29:34more, we can still see roofs, but further down there are no
00:29:38roofs for people. This prediction of Yuriy's turned
00:29:41out to be correct. To be precise, the man was wrong by only
00:29:45five homesteads.
00:29:49It was up to the roofs, we have one street there,
00:29:52well, on Shevchenko Street, yes, there are five
00:29:56houses that were definitely under the roof, and
00:29:5975 houses, well, and...
00:30:32This is what Afanasiivka looked like during the maximum
00:30:35flooding. Afanasiivka became
00:30:39an island, yes, and all these houses that are located, which
00:30:43you see in the coastal zone, they were all those
00:30:46that were all flooded all around, all around.
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