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00:01:15you know, we very often talk about what should be in a first aid kit, we talk about
00:01:19that it should contain certain drugs
00:01:22that can relieve pain, and relieve an allergic reaction,
00:01:26but again, a thermometer is mandatory, maybe even...
00:01:30a CO2 meter, but another very important element
00:01:33is mentioned, an integral part, this is a tonometer, in order to
00:01:36measure blood pressure and understand what the pressure is,
00:01:40what the pulse is, so that very often people after a certain
00:01:43age, they constantly start the day with
00:01:47measuring, and yes, your own pressure,
00:01:51the tonometer looks like this, let's slowly
00:01:54take it, I'll take it in my hand, I'll show you, it's like a
00:01:57pulse meter, and the main thing is on the screen... it will immediately be
00:02:01displayed for you, immediately you will see the pressure,
00:02:04yes, the lower and upper readings and the pulse, well, and
00:02:07that's it, yes, oh, it's already, you see, starting
00:02:11to work, it's already waiting for me to put it on
00:02:14myself, yes, wonderful, how much will
00:02:17such a tonometer cost, tell me, please, from
00:02:20499 UAH, excellent tonometer, listen,
00:02:23works flawlessly, perfectly, and I will
00:02:26tell you, indeed, this is one of the best options that one should consider. Just
00:02:30imagine, yes, well, let's see,
00:02:33let's figure it out, and in general, I will
00:02:37tell you that this tonometer is very light, compact
00:02:40to the maximum, so, it has a pressure
00:02:43control function, this is it, you see, put it on your hand,
00:02:47press the button, everything will be immediately visible, yes
00:02:50on our tonometer, put it
00:02:54with the screen facing the inner
00:02:56side of your hand, slightly...
00:03:00lower, yes, lower than I put it on, and
00:03:03press the button, in principle, nothing new, yes, nothing
00:03:07complicated is done, but you press the button immediately
00:03:11and it starts measuring, yes, and it works
00:03:15100%, it's very easy to store, very
00:03:18simple, actually, I will tell you that it will
00:03:21immediately take all the measurements you need, and it immediately
00:03:24starts, let's say so,
00:03:27measuring pressure. That is, you don't have to
00:03:31do anything, you don't have to open it, you know, as very often happens with tonometers, that
00:03:34you have to open it, you have to wrap it around your hand,
00:03:38like these larger tonometers used to have to be wrapped around your hand
00:03:42and so on, but here in this case you don't have to
00:03:46do anything like that, you just put it on your hand, fastened it, you
00:03:48looked, it immediately starts taking measurements and it gives
00:03:51you the result, it needs a little time to think, you
00:03:55hold it in the correct hand position. And it
00:03:58immediately gives you the correct result,
00:04:02shows whether the pressure is high or
00:04:05low, well, and specifically which one, so it
00:04:09seems to me that this is a very convenient thing, which is
00:04:12so, that's it, I did it, I
00:04:16did it, I measured it, you see, how wonderfully it works,
00:04:20then it pronounces, it then pronounces these
00:04:24numbers, well, I don't
00:04:27know if it will be visible or not, but it...
00:04:30shows, you see, it immediately, it shows
00:04:33the readings,
00:04:34yes,
00:04:37that's great, I really like it, listen, it even repeated everything to me
00:04:41in English that is written here,
00:04:45great, I am very pleased, and
00:04:48first, it's very simple, second, it's very
00:04:51fast, and it measured
00:04:55the pressure, yes, I can show you, what is written,
00:04:59I think it will be... visible, I hold my hand like this so that it doesn't, let's
00:05:02see what is written on it, or no, what
00:05:05readings, yes, well, look, it measured
00:05:09for me, so, 124 over 72,
00:05:16well, everything is there, yes, and it also measures the pulse, of course, well, it's understandable, I'm active,
00:05:20so it can't be lower, but it's
00:05:23understandable and that's it, I just put it on my hand, pressed
00:05:27one button, actually start and nothing
00:05:30else, and it measured and gave me
00:05:33the result, what pressure and how it should be, you understand,
00:05:37very easy, very fast, I like that we
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00:07:32Well, literally, I don't know, a few, probably minutes ago
00:07:35information appeared on CBS, it seems that CBS
00:07:39News was the first to report it, an American channel.
00:07:43President Trump stated that
00:07:46Ukraine needs a new president, this news
00:07:49is now spreading like wildfire
00:07:52all over the world, well, and this is
00:07:56truly, how to
00:07:59comment on this, well, I told you that we are on an airplane in a period
00:08:02of turbulence, Trump replied, you said, well, and he
00:08:06will continue to fool around, well, just wait, November
00:08:104, 2026. This person will suffer a
00:08:13shameful defeat, we will find ourselves in a new political era, and then she will, until
00:08:17that time, she will try to
00:08:21save herself, I understand this perfectly,
00:08:25after everything he has done in these year and a half, he has no way out, well,
00:08:28look, why does he talk like that, first, he
00:08:32really demanded from Zelensky that Zelensky stop striking
00:08:35oil refineries, he is still saying that Zelensky can do whatever
00:08:39he wants, just let him not hit Russian oil
00:08:42refining, and what should we hit? Kindergartens, well, I think that Trump would prefer that, it's about
00:08:46money, well, we can hit Valdbez,
00:08:49marketplaces, military factories, just not oil, not
00:08:52diesel, so that he could pretend to Americans that he
00:08:56is solving the diesel issue, first,
00:08:59second, he can
00:09:02promise this to Putin, then, how does he look? He looks
00:09:06like a weakling, this is what Putin asked him for, so that
00:09:09on May 9, they would not hit Moscow,
00:09:13and he fulfilled it, because he is a strong person, he told
00:09:16Zelensky, Zelensky did it, what is there, he controls
00:09:20Zelensky, Putin controls, I don't know, there who, Lukashenko, everyone
00:09:23has their own puppets, ugh, and if it
00:09:27turns out that Zelensky is not a puppet of Trump, how can Trump live, how can he
00:09:30sleep, how can he look Putin
00:09:33in the eye,
00:09:35well, no way, it means he feels like a person over whom
00:09:39Zelensky deliberately mocks him.
00:09:43He makes him look like a weakling in front of the whole
00:09:46world,
00:09:50well, and I think he really wants us not to hit Russian oil refining, because
00:09:54look, if we hit Russian oil refining, we
00:09:57reduce the share price of Lukoil, well,
00:10:00besides all that, yes, they are now just
00:10:03accomplices, Trump, Vidhov, Kushner, they
00:10:06are accomplices, of this, Putin from the point
00:10:10of view of the complex. car processing, they are Russian
00:10:14oligarchs, and these are people who want to become
00:10:17Russian oligarchs, to be new
00:10:20oligarchs,
00:10:23well, and why, and this is actually.
00:10:26Trump tells Zelensky not to touch, this is mine, why are you shooting at
00:10:29mine, this at my car? Uh-huh, I
00:10:33tell you, don't touch my car, I will buy it tomorrow, it is standing there in the
00:10:37salon, don't touch this salon, my car is there, shoot
00:10:41wherever you want, a kindergarten, there is no car of mine there, here you are,
00:10:45and you are directly shooting,
00:10:48Zelensky tells him, okay, I will not shoot, and you achieve that they do not shoot
00:10:51at our energy systems, but the wind cannot do that anymore.
00:10:56Because it's necessary to convince Putin, and Putin doesn't have the guts
00:10:59for that, he can only control Zelensky from his point of view,
00:11:03and Putin is an equal player, what can he tell him? He has nothing
00:11:06against Putin, and these
00:11:10arguments.
00:11:15That's the whole story, and that's why he starts saying: give me another Zelensky, another Zelensky
00:11:19will do what I say.
00:11:21Well, Zaluzhnyi said something similar earlier, just. it never sounded
00:11:25so straightforward and so
00:11:28simple, I don't even know how to correctly choose the word, not diplomatic, well,
00:11:32listen, Trump and diplomacy are completely opposite things, first of all, you don't need to
00:11:35consider that all this is so serious, tomorrow there will be a new
00:11:38statement, ugh, all this will start
00:11:41changing,
00:11:44Europeans will protest there, he will see the reaction, he will start
00:11:47playing it back, but it repeats, in the coming
00:11:51weeks this person can do whatever he wants, not only in
00:11:54our. direction, in any,
00:11:58he just cannot understand, this person, what to do to increase
00:12:02his rating,
00:12:03what?
00:12:07By the way, about ratings,
00:12:10for President Zelensky, Zelensky, by the way, remains one of
00:12:14the most popular politicians, he has one of the highest
00:12:17levels of trust, he, however, is still,
00:12:21it seems, in third place in terms of trust.
00:12:26This was measured recently, in first
00:12:28place are Zaluzhny and Budanov, Budanov, by the way, has fallen quite significantly,
00:12:32it's very interesting that very sharply and
00:12:35suddenly, and it's difficult to explain, Fedorov's rating
00:12:39fell, why it's difficult to explain Fedorov's, because in this situation,
00:12:42he was a person with whom certain expectations of a specific
00:12:45nature were associated, and these expectations were
00:12:49related to the fact that people considered the turning point in the war to be
00:12:53precisely the strikes on Russian oil refineries, on
00:12:57Russia as such, because they believed that these strikes would lead to
00:13:00some kind of turning point, and I, by the way, what I said then,
00:13:04no, they won't, it just, the war changed its nature, we hit
00:13:08Russia, they hit us, and not that they hit in one direction, but
00:13:12this will not lead to a turning point, and people did not
00:13:15want to understand this and believed that this was it, this was
00:13:18the end, Fedorov
00:13:21is gone, perhaps they believe that he made
00:13:25certain mistakes when he did not agree to become
00:13:28an advisor to the Minister of Defense of Ukraine, and instead became
00:13:32an advisor to the Minister of Defense of Italy, all this has already been forgotten, he is no longer there, in
00:13:35the public space he is practically non-existent,
00:13:39and it
00:13:41turned out that all these hopes that strikes on Russia would lead to
00:13:45a turning point, they
00:13:48are not so realistic, and you understand that if Zelensky had removed
00:13:52Fedorov from the post of Minister of Defense today... no,
00:13:55mhm, there would be no cardboard protests in support of Fedorov,
00:13:59everyone would say, perhaps, another Minister of Defense is needed, who
00:14:02will more effectively protect
00:14:05the Ukrainian sky, because those strikes on Russia are good, but
00:14:09something is wrong, Kyiv is under such attacks, and where was the Ministry
00:14:12of Defense, and where is our ballistics, Fedorov, what will happen, and where is our ballistics,
00:14:16absolutely precisely, if Zelensky needed to politically destroy
00:14:19Fedorov, then he simply
00:14:20rushed,
00:14:24that's all. So I don't see, I don't see
00:14:28anything unexpected in Fedorov's rating fall, I don't
00:14:31see anything unexpected in Budanov's rating fall, because Budanov again
00:14:35got into a story
00:14:36with
00:14:41various unpleasant things, mildly speaking, of a corrupt nature in the office
00:14:44of the President of Ukraine, he is also associated with these things, that is, no longer just
00:14:48with the war, but with office
00:14:51management, and I see nothing strange that...
00:14:55General Zaluzhny's rating, because Zaluzhny
00:14:59after his resignation does not participate
00:15:02in Ukrainian internal processes, the myth
00:15:05about him as a person who was able to protect the country during
00:15:08the most difficult period
00:15:11remains,
00:15:13no corruption abuses have been noticed by him, because he is simply not
00:15:17here, that is, there is no negativity towards him,
00:15:21and the myth lives on, well,
00:15:23and he appears in public space only with
00:15:26conceptual texts, he
00:15:29chose for himself such an role, if you want,
00:15:31such a mentor and
00:15:34military prophet, on Facebook he often... can post
00:15:38a photo with his wife, which collects a million likes, well, a photo with his wife
00:15:41is just a photo with his wife, it's, well, you understand, I mean, he's not
00:15:45a person who gives ratings, expresses opinions on some current
00:15:49topics, he expresses opinions on global topics,
00:15:52ugh, and he is present as a myth, as a god from
00:15:55the machine, perhaps in a situation where there is no real
00:15:59political process, this is the most, I would say, advantageous position, and
00:16:02Zelensky has a rating because he is the president of a warring country, someone stops
00:16:06trusting him, but...
00:16:10because he is the President of Ukraine, so all this, I just see the logic in
00:16:14these ratings. By the way,
00:16:17about this peace party, we talked about it
00:16:20last week, and last
00:16:22week, when Oleksiy Honcharenko
00:16:26was still in the faction of European Solidarity, we discussed
00:16:30why they took so long to make this
00:16:32decision, now he is no longer in this faction.
00:16:35And, but, but I just tried to
00:16:38count how many people theoretically in the Verkhovna
00:16:41Rada could sign Oleksiy Honcharenko's
00:16:45so-called peace plan, I counted that there were no less
00:16:48than a hundred, literally no less than a hundred, and we constantly say
00:16:52that Oleksiy Honcharenko, what a horror, how could you have such a
00:16:56deputy in your faction, Poroshenko, I think that the whole story with Oleksiy Honcharenko
00:17:00is exclusively because he was in Eurosolidarity, if he, if he had presented his
00:17:03empty plan from some other parliamentary group, no one would have even
00:17:07noticed, because you understand that the main disadvantage of this
00:17:11plan is exclusively that it is not because we cannot
00:17:14implement it, but because the Russians are not
00:17:18going to implement it, this is
00:17:21the problem, that we
00:17:23are not
00:17:26discussing plans, because there is Trump's plan of 28
00:17:29points, there is Honcharenko's plan, there were numerous plans
00:17:32of Zelensky, ugh, but
00:17:35the essence of the situation is that I, for example, claim and try to
00:17:38verify this,
00:17:41that Russia does not want to negotiate with Ukraine and will not
00:17:45do so, well, and by the way, Rubio says this, Ba says this,
00:17:49German Foreign Minister Waideful, who met with Lavrov, says that Russia does not seek
00:17:52any negotiations, and people who come up with these
00:17:56plans say, we need to talk to Russia, well, we need to, but
00:17:59if she doesn't want to talk to you, well, so,
00:18:02but this is a matter of religion, they
00:18:05believe that Russia
00:18:08will be ready to talk if they promise her
00:20:54of war, well, they are at least logical, because there is a party of war, there are people who
00:20:58say, we don't want any negotiations with Ukraine, we will
00:21:02talk to Ukraine only after it withdraws troops from Donbas, maybe we will talk
00:21:05to it,
00:21:08and this has been going on for 4.5 years,
00:21:11denazification,
00:21:14what else is there, well, army reduction, refusal,
00:21:18neutral status, and so on and so forth. The root cause
00:21:20of the war, well, but the root cause of the war is
00:21:24ultimately, as you said, it's actually,
00:21:28the desire of Ukrainians not to live in Russia and be Russians, well, that's
00:21:32right, and the desire of Russians for Ukrainians to be
00:21:34Russians, that's all, these are different, I just want to
00:21:38understand how to agree, well, how
00:21:41to agree on these principles,
00:21:45about what to agree, well, I think this is a practical,
00:21:48actually, I think... This is a consequence
00:21:52of understanding what the root causes are, because we always say that
00:21:56the root causes that Putin talks about are just some
00:22:00kind of figure of speech, conditionally speaking, with which
00:22:04they justify their murders, but in
00:22:06fact, we could take this more seriously and say,
00:22:10at least, that we could maximally stop
00:22:12being those who can be called, I don't
00:22:16know, a fraternal nation. a Russian nation and so on, so
00:22:20at least, well, here is Rhodes and we can jump
00:22:24right now and, for example, at least carry out all the reforms,
00:22:28start carrying out all the reforms, right now during the war there is a window
00:22:32of opportunities, that is, it would already be a good signal for Putin that
00:22:35Ukraine is changing so much,
00:22:38that perhaps there is no
00:22:40longer any sense in fighting for
00:22:43it so much, they will think over time, for example, or at least they
00:22:47said it aloud, that perhaps Stalin made a mistake
00:22:51by annexing Western Ukraine, he failed to digest it. Yes, I read
00:22:55a lot about Stalin's megalomania, what it all led to.
00:22:58If, if we show that Ukraine is so different from
00:23:02Russia, that it cannot be digested, then we need to kill all
00:23:05the population here to occupy the territory without population, I will tell you the logic. But the question is
00:23:09that this is a much more difficult task, and it gives fewer bonuses, well, he
00:23:13is doing this right now, why? He is actually carrying it out, what he is doing now
00:23:17is exactly that. Strikes on Kyiv. This is an attempt
00:23:20to deprive Kyiv of its population, and strikes on
00:23:24Kharkiv are an attempt to deprive Kharkiv of its population, how many people
00:23:28are left in Kharkiv now from the wartime population? I actually, by the way, don't
00:23:31know the exact figure, whether Kharkiv is still in second place,
00:23:35I don't think so, well, that is, we don't know this to the end,
00:23:38but the idea is this, if you are right, you want
00:23:42to prove to him that the entire population is disloyal, because
00:23:44before the war
00:23:48he thought that he would capture this country. well, with a loyal population,
00:23:52half of the population voted for Yanukovych, for this whole
00:23:55campaign, so there will be a wonderful population, and he will not capture Western Ukraine,
00:23:59he will give it to Poland, well, and Crimea, by the way, turned out to be
00:24:02loyal after the annexation, to be honest, if we don't consider how
00:24:05loyal, it turned out to be subjugated, yes,
00:24:08of course, there was no partisan movement, open sabotage of something, and
00:24:12it didn't start, no, of course, there were
00:24:15people who opposed it, they were simply imprisoned and so on and so forth, that's
00:24:18true. But this was not the way, no one
00:24:22bombed Crimea before, how do you think loyal Crimea would have been if they had
00:24:26bombed it for two years, destroyed half of Sevastopol,
00:24:29Simferopol, Yalta, people would have treated Russia
00:24:32differently, of course, well, and Crimea is still a special region, we
00:24:36also understand that, it has always differed in all polls and
00:24:39from all perspectives, the essence is not in this, it's just that Crimea also has fewer people now than it did
00:24:43before the occupation, ugh, the essence is in something else, that conclusions have been drawn,
00:24:47that the entire population is disloyal.
00:24:50In the center and in the west more, in the east and in the south
00:24:53maybe less, but the very fact that these people have been living
00:24:57in war for many years, their relatives are fighting in the army, how can they
00:25:00be considered loyal, that is, in principle, he is not, this is not the
00:25:04idea that everyone will flow out of here, well, a large number will leave before
00:25:07the occupation, and then there will be occupation and
00:25:10filtration, those who remain, the fewer remain, the
00:25:13easier it is to resettle to those territories, which is basically what is happening
00:25:17in Mariupol, and happened after 1945, by the way,
00:25:20mass resettlement from Russia, well, Putin's
00:25:23advisor said that Ukraine has always been saved by resettling its own population, for example, in
00:25:27Lviv, a third of the population, even now, are somehow
00:25:30descendants of those who came in 1945 and after
00:25:341945 they could have come not from Russia, but from Soviet Ukraine, this is a different
00:25:38situation, yes of course, but the essence is not in this, the essence is in
00:25:41that these are planned actions, I am absolutely sure that he needs territory without
00:25:45population,
00:25:47and by the way, so that you understand, that they will now
00:25:50act like that, they are simply not communists, communists believed that
00:25:54they could intimidate some population, expel some, leave some for
00:25:57display, if they capture Latvia now, there will be no more...
00:26:01In Estonia there will be no Estonians, they will
00:26:04simply drive them out on national grounds, because these are
00:26:07chauvinists,
00:26:09I can ask this question again,
00:26:14which has been asked a million times, but again,
00:26:18again, okay, is that enough
00:26:21land for you? No, I think this is an incorrect way of
00:26:25posing the question, the question is not that there is little land, the question is where this land
00:26:28is located, if Russia wants to
00:26:31be... a European player, and it
00:26:34perceives what a Russian European player is, it's not that
00:26:37they compete with Fiat,
00:26:41uh-huh, with
00:26:42Airbus,
00:26:45with, I don't know, with her
00:26:49German banks and Swiss, with
00:26:52French wineries, they are afraid,
00:26:56uh-huh, they want to rule Europe
00:26:59with fear, the less from...
00:27:17and France is not that far, that is, the closer Russia
00:27:20will be to Europe, the greater its role as a gendarme, if you
00:27:24talk about trading with fear, and not with some scientific and technical
00:27:27achievements,
00:27:30thus, without Ukraine, Russia is not... a European
00:27:33empire, it is precisely the possession of Ukrainian lands,
00:27:36precisely lands, objectively, but Stalin accidentally crossed
00:27:40the Carpathians and annexed Transcarpathian Oblast
00:27:43to the Ukrainian SSR, and he accidentally there,
00:27:47specifically annexing this former Subcarpathian Rus,
00:27:50exchanged part of its territory for the territory
00:27:53of Slovakia with Chop, Chop is not Subcarpathian Rus, it is simply
00:27:57Slovakia itself, he annexed it to Transcarpathian Oblast, because
00:28:00he needed a nodal railway. this one, and for what? and
00:28:04for troops,
00:28:07well, and then this Chop was used in 1968, when there was a Prague Spring, it's
00:28:10all not accidental.
00:28:13Well, and thus objective reality says that
00:28:17if you want to build an empire that will be a player in
00:28:20Europe, and if you believe that without this role your
00:28:24country will slide to third position, it will not
00:28:28be considered a superpower, here Ilham Aliyev, the president of
00:28:31Azerbaijan, says, there are two... superpowers, we have partners with them, there is no third,
00:28:34and Putin needs there to be a third,
00:28:38uh-huh, without Ukraine Russia cannot be such a player,
00:28:41this is objective reality, GDP at the level of
00:28:44Texas, they want to
00:28:48compensate for all this with territory, by the way, Carlson in this
00:28:52interview with the Brit, the British lord, he
00:28:56said that America has
00:28:58a bigger, Russia has a bigger GDP than Great Britain.
00:29:02and he immediately interrupted him saying no, it has half the GDP. For
00:29:06Carlson it was a revelation. It seems
00:29:09so. Yes, but, that is
00:29:12Russia, Russia
00:29:15is overestimated in