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00:00:00how do you personally know, you need to hide,
00:00:04you can still somehow move,
00:00:07well, look, the first, the first is
00:00:11to listen to the sky, that's the first thing that
00:00:14you definitely need to be, as they say, keep your ears
00:00:18open, so definitely listen to the sky, in
00:00:21our case it's to listen all the way to the sky to
00:00:24understand what kind of drones, well, we've already
00:00:28learned a little bit to understand. our drone is not our
00:00:32drone flying there and in pi flying there
00:00:35there it is also clear that MLRS
00:00:38there it's different KABs they rustle
00:00:42quite differently over your head you already understand that it's a KAB and
00:00:45if it flew past you then it flew further
00:00:49so we react there are
00:00:52appropriate Telegram channels and not
00:00:55only messages notifications where
00:00:58you can even. well plus or minus where it's
00:01:02going, what direction that KAB is going, and so I
00:01:06already understand, for example, whether I should run to the corridor
00:01:09or hide somewhere, or well, I
00:01:12shouldn't, well, something like that, something like that, Andriy,
00:01:15thank you, Andriy Hryni, editor of the online publication News
00:01:18of Kramatorsk district from Kramatorsk, where people
00:01:22become audio specialists, this is to distinguish by ear your own
00:01:25from someone else's, and where the guided
00:01:29bomb Kapta is moving.
00:01:40came in, but you see, nevertheless the Russians know what else to
00:01:44surprise the residents of Kramatorsk who
00:01:48have already gotten used to the fact that the war is very, very
00:01:51close. Friends, let's move on, Oleksiy Hetman, Major of the National Guard
00:01:54of Ukraine in reserve, military analyst will be with us on
00:01:58the line, we are waiting. for his appearance, we will discuss with
00:02:01him, in fact, what is happening besides all that in the world, and in
00:02:05the world, what interesting things are happening in Poland, they say that
00:02:09there could have been an assassination attempt on the prime minister and
00:02:12the minister. This is the police spokesman,
00:02:16they say that very, very serious, completely different intelligence data
00:02:19they received, besides that, what we discussed
00:02:23yesterday with a psychologist in this studio has its continuation,
00:02:27also the continuation of the massacre in the school about...
00:02:52Tusk again says that he does not connect these cases of school massacres, but there are experts who claim that
00:02:55Russia may indeed be behind this, as we
00:02:59know. Ancient Russian practices that already have not even a
00:03:03few decades of history, but several centuries of history, how they
00:03:06create chaos, how they try to
00:03:10push people into a spiral of panic, and what else I
00:03:14think, children are involved here, Russia strikes at
00:03:17what hurts people the most, as always, when children
00:03:21suffer. Now let's ask Oleksiy Hetman, retired National Guard Major, military
00:03:24analyst, he is with us on the line. Mr.
00:03:27Oleksiy, what do you think, day by... day in Poland
00:03:30there is a massacre in schools, in lyceums
00:03:34with the participation
00:03:36of children or teenagers or children who are 21 years old, because these are all
00:03:40still, still children, as I believe,
00:03:43and these are means of military influence, so inspections in
00:03:47schools have passed and also revealed many cases where
00:03:50such attacks
00:03:53could have been prepared, or could this be Russia's
00:03:57way to destabilize.
00:04:00The situation in Poland in such a way, there is no need for Shaheds or
00:04:04missiles to fly there, it is possible to deprive people
00:04:07of security in this way, well, it is quite possible, this is part
00:04:10of the information war, this is an information
00:04:13component of a hybrid war, which has not ceased to be
00:04:17hybrid, the fact that one can influence through mass media,
00:04:20through Telegrams, through other things that young
00:04:23people use, to form certain focus groups, we
00:04:27know this from our example. From cardboard boxes,
00:04:31posters, well, and so on,
00:04:35you can find such a weak spot, and there in such
00:04:38a way, influence a person, well, not push, but lead him to some
00:04:42actions that are needed by the one who is doing it, and the person will be
00:04:45confident that they did it independently, or that they are somehow advanced or
00:04:49something new, well, remember
00:04:52you remember that a few years ago there was, well
00:04:56many years ago there was a conversation, I think there was a blue
00:05:00dolphin or some other dolphin, which
00:05:03encouraged people, children to commit suicide, well, there was such a thing or
00:05:07a blue cat, well still sit, blue whale,
00:05:10it seems, let's remember, well,
00:05:14history, yes, let's remember the White Brotherhood, for example, I'm not even talking about
00:05:17Om, Chumak and Kashpirovsky, if people
00:05:20charged basins, gathered around the TV, well, what
00:05:24do you want, and from such people, who they
00:05:28will say, who they
00:05:31will support, well, this is the first law of Carlo Cipolla, who always
00:05:34says that people always underestimate the number of fools
00:05:37around them and always downplay it, if you
00:05:40Chumakarovsky and...
00:06:12movements through some texts, through some videos, and people
00:06:16start doing what they were not really programmed to do, to what they were
00:06:19запрограмували, до чого до
00:06:21prompted
00:06:24yes, but I wanted to ask you now, Mr.
00:06:27Oleksiy, about the serious work of intelligence services, so look,
00:06:31first, today, when we heard from the spokesman of the Polish
00:06:34police that their intelligence says about
00:06:38an assassination attempt that is to be on Prime Minister Donald.
00:06:42and on Defense Minister Kosiniak-Kamysz, and
00:06:46this emergency meeting is now a security one with
00:06:50security specialists, and this is not a separate case for our
00:06:53neighbors, because we see that today the Financial Times also comes out with the fact
00:06:57that Western intelligence services have
00:07:00enough materials about the order of the Russians from
00:07:03the Kremlin to strengthen actions
00:07:06of destabilization in Europe, first
00:07:09of all, by physical liquidation.
00:07:12liquidation of owners or top managers of defense
00:07:16enterprises, this is today's publication,
00:07:19so in this case, how do you assess
00:07:22the ability of NATO countries, European NATO countries to
00:07:25repel all this,
00:07:28that is, the publication of information, or
00:07:31partial publication of information is already a good thing, but it will not stop
00:07:35the special operation,
00:07:37well, of course it won't stop, the thing is that
00:07:40those people,
00:07:44leaders, well, mostly states, more,
00:07:47well, not mostly, but simply most in Europe and their
00:07:50military ministries, military structures, and
00:07:54the leaders of these structures, they perfectly understand what is really happening in the
00:07:57Russian-Ukrainian war, what threat there is
00:08:00from the Russian Federation to all of Europe or the whole
00:08:04world, so such people, according to the logic of the Russians,
00:08:07need to be removed from these positions
00:08:10and... a wave of populism is rising very
00:08:14much, another one, it will cover again, like a tsunami, all of
00:08:18Europe, as it covered us once, covered the United
00:08:21States, so it can cover Europe, and then, in
00:08:24the leadership of these structures, especially military ones, we understand that
00:08:28political is such for Russians, but military is
00:08:31important, and that some people will come there who will
00:08:34talk not about what needs to be done for the defense of the country,
00:08:38what weapons, how to form it, they will talk about artificial intelligence, about...
00:08:42IT technologies, this is not bad,
00:08:44but
00:08:47to shoot down,
00:08:50for example, Shaheds that fly at us, we need missiles,
00:08:54not artificial intelligence, which
00:08:57helps in prison now, so Mr. Oleksiy, what
00:09:00if, if, for example, this warning
00:09:04is indeed carried out, somewhere they succeed, yes, as they
00:09:07succeeded with Rheinmetall, as with those actions
00:09:10that we saw in... explosions, arsons and others, well, there were some in
00:09:14Bulgaria in particular and in other countries, in short, if they
00:09:18manage, for example, to eliminate several top managers
00:09:21of enterprises that somehow
00:09:25produce the products we need, cooperate with the defense forces
00:09:28of Ukraine, we contract something from them, they buy something,
00:09:32they transfer it to us with their own money, so such a
00:09:35murder occurs, or under the influence of such
00:09:38a special operation and pressure from political forces on... on
00:09:42which the Kremlin gives money, it doesn't matter, in one country ultra-right, in another
00:09:46ultra-left. Can this really now actually
00:09:49destroy this defense component
00:09:52of assistance that we have, that is, under those pressures, fear,
00:09:56terror, murder and political
00:10:00Putin-understanders.
00:10:03Mr. Roman, I am telling you about this, that there is an attempt by the Russians to destroy
00:10:06people who are reasonable,
00:10:09let's put it simpler, and do not tell some fantasies. about
00:10:13some things that they don't understand very well, what this
00:10:17phrase means, and
00:10:20so that people who will not
00:10:24strengthen defense, but
00:10:27will be engaged in other things, telling about
00:10:30some future, how it happens, how important it is, but to shoot down
00:10:34drones, you need missiles, you understand, it's very
00:10:38good that everything else works, we are all for
00:10:42artificial intelligence, and again drones must be shot down with missiles,
00:10:45period, everything else,
00:10:48later, Mr. Oleksiy, and I'm talking about that, and about that, two more
00:10:52words, whether it will succeed or not succeed, well... counter-intelligence
00:10:57will not protect, only intelligence can protect, simply put,
00:11:00if they know, and if
00:11:03there are no own intelligence officers, spies, simply put, in those
00:11:06structures, at the highest levels
00:11:09of enemy intelligence, who simply know about these operations, they will be able to
00:11:13warn, then
00:11:16in another way, to protect any person, well, let's remember another
00:11:20Hollywood movie, the same movie The Jackal, that a political
00:11:23person of that level, to protect
00:11:26completely 100%, if there is a decision
00:11:30of the special services to destroy him, it is practically impossible, practically impossible,
00:11:33unfortunately, patient, and I wanted
00:11:36to ask you about another intelligence, because
00:11:39after yesterday's reaction
00:11:43to Diesel Show from Donald
00:11:46Trump, there was a refutation,
00:11:49a denial, and others, on the contrary, began
00:11:53to confirm it, well, the freshest from...
00:11:56we found out that nevertheless, at
00:11:59the meeting in Miami, yes Donald Trump's son-in-law and
00:12:02his partner in
00:12:05"Buy-Sell," that is, they were
00:12:09actually engaged in, well, such
00:12:12an ultimatum, that is, this ultimatum consisted
00:12:15in that, if you do not obey
00:12:19Donald Trump and his friend Putin, and do not stop strikes
00:12:23on oil refineries, we will cut off intelligence data, in
00:12:27confirmation of this publication,
00:12:29also added his two cents and
00:12:33the favorite, the non-systemic favorite
00:12:36of Donald Trump, Elon Musk, who said that
00:12:39Zelensky crossed
00:12:42the line, did not listen to Donald Trump and so
00:12:46on, that is, is there a risk that we will immediately lose
00:12:50two very important components of American
00:12:53intelligence data. which the defense forces also work on,
00:12:57and what's more, if Elon Musk gets up on the wrong foot again and
00:13:01there will be problems with Starlinks, or is this
00:13:05just part of the information-psychological
00:13:08influence of the American political establishment within the framework of their election campaign,
00:13:11in reality, we are not
00:13:22Show, well, a good group, sometimes you can
00:13:25even watch them with joy, the fact is that
00:13:29such a quantity of oil that is planned to be transferred and that it
00:13:32will arrive, if tankers calmly arrive in the United States, it
00:13:35will not significantly affect it, this is approximately how much
00:13:39there, a million, several millions, this is for one or two days, if I'm not
00:13:43mistaken, they calculated a maximum of three days, to provide
00:13:46American gas stations with such oil for the entire
00:13:49period until April, I don't think that I'm not
00:13:53talking about diesel, we're talking about diesel already. We've told a lot there, for 16
00:13:56hours of work of all that was contracted, moreover,
00:14:00it's not needed by America, and it doesn't affect
00:14:03I'm not talking about diesel, I'm talking about the diesel show that launched the whole mechanism
00:14:07of threats to deprive Ukraine of
00:14:10American intelligence data, that's what worries
00:14:12us more, you know, there have already been cases when we did not
00:14:16use American intelligence data, it negatively affected
00:14:19our capabilities, but it does not mean that we, that this will be
00:14:23a defeat in the war, this.
00:14:25Yes, for us, it increased, unfortunately, our losses, we
00:14:28had to cancel the Kursk operation when we stopped
00:14:32receiving this data, but American data, let them not
00:14:35lie, we exchange data, there is a lot, and now it is estimated
00:14:3950/50, we transmit a lot of data that is extremely important for them,
00:14:43data about Russia, about their actions and so on, so let
00:14:45them not talk so pompously, and
00:14:49these phrases,
00:14:52Elon Musk's, that they did not listen to
00:14:56Trump, I think that Elon Musk is not Trump's friend and he
00:14:59just keeps his ear to the ground, considering that
00:15:02Trump is now president, in order to promote his business and become, he has already
00:15:06become a trillionaire under Trump,
00:15:09he needs to support him in some way,
00:15:12when, but Musk declared war on
00:15:15Putin, now he says that Zelensky has come
00:15:19and it's unclear, but I think that when everyone sees that these actions
00:15:23of Trump's Diesel Show lead to...
00:15:26a result, like any populist, then
00:15:29Elon Musk will quickly step aside from Trump, because nothing
00:15:33connects them, except that Trump,
00:15:36using Musk. as, well,
00:15:39support, let's say, unquestioning support for his own business,
00:15:43regarding intelligence, sale
00:15:46of weapons, there are three three
00:15:48levers, with which the United
00:15:52States can pressure us, and the first is
00:15:55weapons, transfer of weapons, well,
00:15:59roubles there, Greece, we transfer weapons, nothing, they sell them for
00:16:02European money, Europeans just shrugged their shoulders, that you don't
00:16:06supply Americans. You don't sell, you don't transfer, you sell for our
00:16:10money, this is the first thing, nothing, how can he pressure
00:16:12us, but I am sure that these contracts,
00:16:16and Trump cannot give an order to stop supplying weapons, that these
00:16:19weapons are bought by Europeans according to written contracts, there will be huge
00:16:23penalties and they explain to Trump to calm down,
00:16:27weapon manufacturers of the United States, this is the first, second, intelligence data,
00:16:30will there be or not, even if there won't be,
00:16:33well, we'll manage without it, there are European systems,
00:16:37Great Britain offers its own satellite ideas, well, we collected, Mr.
00:16:41Pretolo, we collected it for Saturday, let's just joke, we are one of the few
00:16:45space countries, we can launch and have launched satellites into space,
00:16:48commercial satellites, even before the full invasion, we
00:16:52have these capabilities, we let's take, for
00:16:55example, recent strikes, for the third, third
00:16:59time we attack, for example, Yandex data centers, on
00:17:02which a lot is tied in Russia, I understand that I am falling out, I understand
00:17:06that Mr. Ramashe.
00:17:33on the data center, this is us hitting precisely.
00:17:37We struck thanks to our own intelligence data, or did we,
00:17:41for example, rely on American intelligence for such a strike?
00:17:45That intelligence is not needed, we know where everything is,
00:17:48we need this data to correct the flight of our missiles and that's it,
00:17:52and to know where the powerful, dense
00:17:56Russian air defense systems are, air defense
00:17:59where they are moving, we think something about coordinates, coordinates are all
00:18:03known to the minute, to the second, well, degree, so
00:18:06there are no questions there. And regarding levers of influence, I
00:18:09wanted us to hear, you to hear our listeners,
00:18:12viewers, all these levers
00:18:15of influence,
00:18:17for Americans, well, we still have many years to be friends with America, and Trump has
00:18:21no more, and they and everyone, if all these, a2 are already
00:18:25involved, the third, I think we will cope with this somehow,
00:18:28then we have to listen to what Trump says,
00:18:32listen to Musk who says, and we did not listen to Trump, do they not
00:18:36understand that we will have to...
00:18:47He wants us not to strike, well, we met him
00:18:50halfway, once again, President Zelensky said, stop the Russians
00:18:54from hitting our
00:18:56facilities, then we might, might stop hitting
00:18:59oil refineries, right now we are talking, drones are flying over my head, they
00:19:03are flying, well, to one of
00:19:05our...
00:19:09to one of our thermal power plants,
00:19:11because, well, because I see where they are flying and from where, from where they
00:19:15are not meant to be destroyed, therefore the answer to whether we will or will not
00:19:19destroy oil refineries, we have already destroyed 51%
00:19:22of oil refineries, and out of the large 36 in Russia, we have destroyed
00:19:2524, we will destroy all, burn all of them to hell,
00:19:28oil refining plants
00:19:31of the Russians, and whether Trump likes it or not,
00:19:35let's finally come to our senses. We have a new
00:19:38new game now, yes, let's, let's do it so that Trump likes
00:19:42it, because without Trump we are nowhere, yes we are somewhere without Trump,
00:19:45you understand, and once again the United States is not Trump, and we have
00:19:49quite strong support both in, first
00:19:52of all, in Europe and in the United States as
00:19:55well, so let's calm down, we, we
00:19:58have no obligation and desire, no desire for sure
00:20:02anymore, to please Trump and Kushner and
00:20:06Witkoff, without Trump. We can shoot down everything that
00:20:09flies, for example, over Kyiv now? We are
00:20:12doing this, Trump has nothing to do with it, Trump with
00:20:16his great understanding of how to launch
00:20:20800 Pack-3 missiles against Shaheds, we have used
00:20:24600 in total, during that time the Patriot complex, a great
00:20:27warrior, you understand, yes, we, we, we critically
00:20:31need a Patriot missile against ballistic missiles,
00:20:34but, well, listen, doesn't it
00:20:37seem to you that we are fighting not only Russia, but also
00:20:40other countries, maybe even the United States, what is this
00:20:44trip, Marco Rubio, the US
00:20:47Secretary of State to Greece, who agreed
00:20:50to give us 200 Pack-3 missiles, which are expiring,
00:20:53and after the trip they somehow
00:20:56started to change their minds, because they changed their mind, what is this, what is this
00:20:59pressure? Let's, let's calm down, the United
00:21:02States, they,
00:21:06a little earlier, three years ago, they were our
00:21:09allies, then they became mediators, and now it seems to me that
00:21:12they, that they are waging war, only not with soldiers, but
00:21:15with finances and other political pressures on the side of the Russian
00:21:19Federation, if this...
00:21:32we understood you correctly, that is, you connect it with the fact that, for example,
00:21:35we could have received a quite significant number
00:21:38of Patriot missiles for shooting down
00:21:42ballistic missiles, from
00:21:44Greece, but then Secretary of State Marco
00:21:48Rubio came, and... we won't get
00:21:50them anymore, no, it's unknown, but something became very difficult
00:21:54with this, well, we don't know all the details to the end, but the fact that
00:21:58it was almost agreed now, well,
00:22:01now, according to the information we have from
00:22:04open, semi-open sources, that something became very complicated, especially
00:22:08since the Greeks have no arguments, these missiles will be
00:22:11unusable in a week, well, we will use them, we will
00:22:15repair them, glue them with tape, nothing terrible, they will shoot down,
00:22:19that is, to say that these...
00:22:23for the defense of their own sky in a week, well, hypothetically, in a week, they have to remove them from
00:22:27service, how will they protect your sky in storage? That is, there are no arguments
00:22:30why not to hand over these
00:22:33missiles to us? Well, let's draw a conclusion, why
00:22:37did Rubio come to Greece, what did he, well, he met with
00:22:41the government, what did he want, and why did it become difficult with
00:22:44these missiles, once again, as of today, not America, but the current
00:22:47administration is not our friends, and this...
00:29:19My dad is a defender of Ukraine, he is a military man and now
00:29:23protects our Ukraine, my dad
00:29:26is a combat medic, he saves and
00:29:29treats wounded defenders. Dad
00:29:32is the best for me, dad is my hero,
00:29:36I love him very much and want him to return sooner, I
00:29:39really miss him, sometimes I can
00:29:42just cry
00:29:45when I think of him,
00:29:48I love him very much and wait for him every day, I
00:29:52love him very much, waiting for him home,
00:29:55thank you, dad, for protecting us,
00:29:58thank you, dad, thank you dad, thank
00:30:02you dad.
00:30:27In Ukraine, it is 5:00 PM and to your attention is the news release on Espreso TV
00:30:31channel. Iryna Koval is working for you in the studio and I will tell you about
00:30:35the main events for this time. In Kyiv, in parts of
00:30:39Obolonsky, Podilsky, Dniprovsky, Shevchenkivsky and
00:30:42Desnyansky districts, emergency shutdowns have been recorded
00:30:46due to the enemy's attack. This was reported by Det company. Currently,
00:30:50energy workers are working to restore power as soon as possible.
00:30:54According to the mayor of Kyiv, Vitali Klitschko,
00:30:57the enemy attacked the high-voltage during the day.
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