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00:00:00I literally saw Anna a few days before her murder,
00:00:03and we were just discussing what else they could
00:00:07come up with, what else they could do.
00:00:10So, I would
00:00:14say, in Russia, it's a tradition to
00:00:17come up with something for his birthday that
00:00:20he would like. Everyone can
00:00:24give a gift to the President
00:00:27of Russia in their own way. For example, some
00:00:31services that ensured the death
00:00:33of Politkovskaya,
00:00:36even from Grozny, they believed that he would like Anna's
00:00:39death.
00:00:44The army that is devoted to him, the generals for whom he
00:00:47started the war, you understand that war for a general is happiness, because
00:00:50these are financial flows, these are new ranks, these are new
00:00:53orders. Therefore, they are immensely grateful to him for the opportunity
00:00:57to fight,
00:00:59because... we will strike Kyiv to celebrate his
00:01:03birthday. So it's no coincidence at all, don't even
00:01:07doubt it. It's just, you see, we have this idea that Russians
00:01:10nightmare us on our holidays. They
00:01:14don't give a damn about our holidays, because they don't consider
00:01:17Ukraine a state at all, so some of our holidays don't
00:01:20interest them, their own
00:01:22holidays interest them. The first main holiday of a Russian official
00:01:26is the leader's birthday, Putin's
00:01:29birthday. The next important day is
00:01:33Soviet Army and Navy Day,
00:01:36February 23rd, which is now Russian Army Day, but it doesn't
00:01:40matter, we understand that it's a Bolshevik day, and I will remind you
00:01:44that it was after February 23rd,
00:01:462022, that Russia
00:01:50attacked Ukraine, it happened on the 24th, but the President of Russia
00:01:53spoke on the night of February 23rd to 24th,
00:01:57they celebrated and left. And this was also
00:02:00a gift, that we would celebrate Soviet Army Day, and
00:02:04then, then we would seize
00:02:07Ukraine, "Burn fascist grenade from a Soviet soldier," as
00:02:10the President of Russia recently said during one of his speeches. That's all the
00:02:14logic, petty people who, like they used to
00:02:17launch spacecraft on dates, and
00:02:21despite the fact that it could be unprepared technology and people
00:02:24died as a result of these launches, that's how attacks are carried out
00:02:27on peaceful cities now. Yes, on his
00:02:31birthday.
00:02:34I think each leader has his own values. We used to
00:02:37laugh at one of Putin's predecessors, General
00:02:41Secretary of the Central Committee of the CPSU, Leonid Brezhnev,
00:02:44that he always wanted to be a Hero of the Soviet
00:02:48Union on his birthday. When he died, he was a four-time Hero of the Soviet Union and a Hero
00:02:51of Socialist Labor, five gold stars, a record. But
00:02:55now I think, maybe it's better to want awards, like Brezhnev or
00:02:58Trump, than to want to kill people, you understand? Not just
00:03:02people, meaning
00:03:0420 years ago he wanted a journalist
00:03:07to be brought
00:03:09to him, whom he could devour, and now he
00:03:13just devours
00:03:16infants
00:03:18seven a day, and I don't know
00:03:21what world art from
00:03:25of depicting the type
00:03:28of this monster, just. We once discussed in our
00:03:31program Goya and Saturn, who devours his
00:03:34son, that's
00:03:38remembered, these are absolutely specific Caprichos
00:03:41of Goya, but in terms of scale, it still doesn't quite reach, in
00:03:44my opinion.
00:03:47You want it to reach? This this is exactly what I don't want, I want
00:03:51the world to be able to stop this monster and for him
00:03:54to stop devouring Ukrainian infants. Let's talk
00:03:57about that. Well... The NATO Military Committee
00:04:01arrived in Kyiv for the first time in eight years. I think that in connection
00:04:05with this increase
00:04:07of Russian cannibalism, they talked about further
00:04:10support, and for the first time in
00:04:13the history of Ukraine and NATO, a meeting of the Ukraine-NATO Council
00:04:16at the level of the Military Committee took place on the territory of Ukraine. In your opinion,
00:04:20how important is this signal for Putin, and
00:04:23is there a way through this
00:04:27direction of Ukraine-NATO relations to bind, a way
00:04:31to intensify this partnership for
00:04:33victory? You know, I think the most important thing to
00:04:37think about is how much such meetings affect
00:04:41hardware, in our case, air
00:04:45defense, and the possibility of new
00:04:48supplies of new weapons for the army, but now
00:04:52the rear is the most important issue that needs to be resolved, why, because the army
00:04:55is actively
00:04:58deterring the enemy, it has achieved success, it has, in fact,
00:05:01blocked the Russian offensive to this day, and the
00:05:05rear is now the most vulnerable
00:05:09part of this war. I have repeatedly said that the goal of the President of
00:05:13the Russian Federation is to turn the cities of Ukraine into
00:05:15ruins. Even if it is not possible to seize this
00:05:19territory, Putin wants to throw Ukraine and its development back
00:05:2350-100 years, and this should be an excellent
00:05:26example for all those to whom Russia will make its
00:05:30integration proposals in the future. Do you want it to
00:05:33be like in Ukraine, or join
00:05:36us? That is, Ukraine is not just a training ground, it is also
00:05:39an example of how not to behave with Russian
00:05:43proposals for annexation, therefore, the more ruins there are in
00:05:46Ukraine, the more successful Putin's policy in the post-Soviet
00:05:50space in Central Europe will be in the
00:05:53future. So we
00:05:57need to achieve opposite
00:06:00goals?
00:06:03It all depends on how much our allies can help us with
00:06:07air defense during such a crisis period in their own
00:06:10development, because you understand that NATO as an alliance is in a deep
00:06:14crisis, in a
00:06:15deep one.
00:06:18On the one hand, the United States still cannot decide which
00:06:21NATO obligations they
00:06:25are willing to fulfill and which they are not, we don't even understand how
00:06:28seriously Article Five
00:06:30of NATO works. The United States is constantly
00:06:34thinking about withdrawing troops from Europe and
00:06:37redeploying them to other regions of the world, thus clearly
00:06:41demonstrating that if he attacks
00:06:45Europe, Americans will not participate. This is the signal, much more serious than all
00:06:48the trips of officials to Kyiv, all together. And
00:06:52third, that Americans
00:06:54are organizing
00:06:56meetings on NATO reform,
00:07:00from some NATO countries, some countries are not invited,
00:07:04and they are precisely those countries that are
00:07:07most vulnerable from the point of view of Russian expansion, and
00:07:11which, by the way, spend exactly that part of the
00:07:13budget on military needs that Donald
00:07:17Trump demanded from them at one time during his first
00:07:21term. And I said then, and I can only
00:07:24repeat now, that all these demands of Donald Trump
00:07:26actually have no meaning,
00:07:30that it was all just talk, with which the American
00:07:33president was preparing for the collapse of NATO. If he had been re-elected immediately for
00:07:37a second term, it would have happened earlier,
00:07:40but now it was postponed to Biden's presidency, and now it is being
00:07:44implemented.
00:07:47And as you can see, spending the budget, not spending anything,
00:07:51none of the thoughts of the American leadership, this does not affect
00:07:54it at all.
00:07:57Vitaliy, I'm also thinking about, after all, which, if we
00:08:01return to the artistic theme, which monster Putin reminds me of,
00:08:04then I think that he is closest to those
00:08:07hellish pictures that Bosch
00:08:11depicted on his...
00:08:14uh paintings, and he, moreover, I can already tell you that
00:08:17this is not that scale, why this, he is still, every day he is
00:08:21such a small dog with a bird's beak and duck's feet, who
00:08:24pricks someone with these needles, or
00:08:28a black monkey with thorns, or
00:08:32some other monster, but we must remember
00:08:35that, in fact, Bosch's main idea
00:08:38was that hell will fall, just like...
00:08:43other philosophers and artists and generally the very idea of Christianity
00:08:46is based on this, and
00:08:49actually, I would like this hell to fall as soon as possible. By the
00:08:53way, what do you think is happening with this
00:08:57mysterious story about the plague in
00:08:59Siberia? This is another birthday gift
00:09:03for Putin. Let's recall that for the third time in a week, the European
00:09:07Commission is trying to get information from Russia about
00:09:10what is happening with the outbreak of the plague in Siberia, where
00:09:14on the one hand, supposedly one employee of the
00:09:17anti-plague institute fell ill and died from it, due to
00:09:21some broken test tube, and on the other hand, the WHO is already trying
00:09:24to find out whether their data on
00:09:27another employee's illness is confirmed. Well, and the United States is also trying
00:09:31to get information, although they claim that they are in communication
00:09:35with their Russian colleagues on this topic, but on the other hand, Kennedy
00:09:39Airport in New York, where most flights from this direction arrive,
00:09:42has already created its own medical point and is, so to speak,
00:09:45preparing. Well, this is an interesting story as well, to what extent it
00:09:49can become a black swan
00:09:51in these plans of the Kremlin for global
00:09:55expansion? Well, I don't think there will be any black swans here, because in any
00:09:59case, some large-scale epidemic,
00:10:02if you take into account that it is outside the European part of Russia, it is unlikely to be in
00:10:05the European part, possibly, but we already have an official answer from
00:10:09Russian authorities, is there no plague at all?
00:10:13There is not a single person who has contracted the plague, the employee about whom
00:10:16they spoke, that is, the female employee, according to the
00:10:20Ministry of Health of the Russian
00:10:22Federation, died of
00:10:25community-acquired
00:10:27pneumonia. I don't know what that means, frankly, this
00:10:31term, it's also interesting, what is community-acquired,
00:10:34well, it's pneumonia that you can
00:10:36contract
00:10:39outside a medical facility. No, Vitaliy, I'm sorry,
00:10:42but do you remember how long they hid, tried
00:10:45to somehow camouflage the problem
00:10:48of Chernobyl, when it exploded, and I also remembered that, that it is very
00:10:52similar to Chernobyl.
00:10:56But for us to be convinced of this, there needs to be at least
00:11:00one confirmed case.
00:11:03There is not a single confirmed case, officially confirmed case of plague in
00:11:06the Russian Federation, there are only rumors and assumptions,
00:11:10moreover, these are rumors and assumptions of such a scale that the President of the United States is forced
00:11:14to respond to them, but have you noticed that the President of the Russian Federation
00:11:18refuses to talk to him?
00:11:22He hoped to congratulate Putin on his birthday. So you mean
00:11:26that he didn't congratulate him not because his own cabinet refused,
00:11:29but for other reasons, because Putin didn't
00:11:32want to? Putin doesn't want to talk,
00:11:35of course, and why? Putin doesn't want
00:11:38to answer questions about why, maybe he just doesn't want to lie to Trump's
00:11:42face. Putin understands that now Trump is interested in
00:11:45his company, because people close to
00:11:49Trump simply dream of buying these Lukoil shares, foreign
00:11:52assets. Why should Putin rush with
00:11:56this? He can marinate Trump at least until the midterm elections, and
00:12:00then think whether to sell these shares to these people, or whether to wait
00:12:03for others, on the one hand Lukoil, and on the other hand, also the Nord
00:12:07Streams, which also, according to
00:12:10the latest reports of the world press,
00:12:13were discussed as a possible project that needs
00:12:16to be revisited between Americans and Russians.
00:12:20Oh, I think this is an absolute adventure. The people who write this don't even
00:12:23understand what they're talking about.
00:12:25All the Nord Stream lines that could have been used
00:12:29are destroyed by the explosion,
00:12:32they need to be repaired, permission from Germany needs to be obtained
00:12:36for this, and so on. Well, in any case, you understand that repairing such
00:12:39a gas pipeline is not a matter of one day. There is one
00:12:43undamaged line, the so-called Nord
00:12:46Stream 2. It was after this line was built
00:12:50that the great Russian-Ukrainian war began, and it is
00:12:54undamaged. Explosion, but it is also not licensed,
00:12:57Maria. This was the same amazing story we were
00:13:01talking about then. I thought Putin would start
00:13:04the war after he got the licensing
00:13:08for this gas pipeline,
00:13:11but Putin turned out to be a person who was not interested in
00:13:14licensing at all and believed that in case of a critical situation with
00:13:18the Ukrainian gas transmission system, the West would launch
00:13:21Nord Stream 2 without any licensing. And
00:13:25Putin, by the way, spoke about this openly, because after there were
00:13:28explosions on other Nord Stream lines,
00:13:32Russia said: "Listen, we can absolutely calmly
00:13:35pump gas through Nord Stream II." But this is impossible from
00:13:39a legal point of view. And I think that now, under the current
00:13:42German government, no foundations have been created for
00:13:45Nord Stream 2 to be licensed,
00:13:49so I don't understand what we're talking about at all. Well, under the current government,
00:13:53of course, it's impossible, but here... an alternative for Germany is on
00:13:57the doorstep, so anything can happen. The alternative for Germany does not have such
00:14:00a number of votes in the Bundestag, even according to sociological
00:14:03data, that would allow it to form a government capable of fundamentally changing
00:14:07German foreign policy. This is another myth,
00:14:10you see.
00:14:14The alternative for Germany is currently the most popular party in Germany, but if we
00:14:18look at the German electoral system, we will say
00:14:22that it can have a large faction in the Bundestag, this is a problem.
00:14:25But this is not a problem of power, it is a problem of Ukraine's
00:14:28stability. Even if one imagines that
00:14:32the Alternative for Germany will one day become a party with which other
00:14:35political forces
00:14:37will be willing to form a government,
00:14:40it will have to listen to these political
00:14:42forces.
00:14:44The only real partner of the Alternative for Germany who is ready to support it
00:14:48with at least votes, Sarah Wagenknecht's alliance, it is now
00:14:51called differently, but the essence is clear. It does not yet have
00:14:55a rating that would allow them to hope for the creation of their own faction in the
00:14:59Bundestag. All other political forces,
00:15:02the Christian Democratic Union of Germany,
00:15:04the Social Democrats,
00:15:07the Free Democrats, the Left, the Greens, are not
00:15:10going to form governments with the Alternative for Germany, or support
00:15:13it with their votes, therefore the coming of the Alternative for
00:15:17Germany to power in Germany today looks more like
00:15:20political fantasy. I'm not saying it won't change someday, but we are talking about the current state
00:15:24of affairs. Well, let's say that despite
00:15:28the obvious decline in sympathy and
00:15:31trust
00:15:33of Germans in the candidacy of Chancellor Merz.
00:15:37Uh, which obviously concerns Ukrainians, because
00:15:41Friedrich Merz supports Ukraine, he eventually came after these
00:15:44last shellings to the Ukrainian capital, was at the scene of military
00:15:48crimes of Russia, but
00:15:51still, even if
00:15:54Merz leaves, the closest, well,
00:15:57three, two, let's say, main candidates who are being
00:15:59considered as those who can replace him, they
00:16:03are still from conservative political forces,
00:16:08and they are not critics of
00:16:11supporting Ukraine, these are Henrik
00:16:15Wüst from the CDU and Markus Söder from
00:16:18the CSU, so fundamentally nothing will change for
00:16:22Ukraine. Nevertheless, even if we rely on
00:16:25this, still returning to the Nord Stream
00:16:27material
00:16:29from Reuters about the negotiations, then such conversations can certainly
00:16:33continue between Dmitriev and Kushner
00:16:39and other negotiators from the United States.
00:16:43Why not? But nevertheless, there is no confirmation of returning to
00:16:46the implementation of these plans, this is also
00:16:49true. Well, let's talk
00:16:52about the negotiation track. Here there are also
00:16:56many news this week, in particular, US Secretary
00:17:00of State Rubio stated that, in his
00:17:04opinion, the end of the Russian war in...
00:17:07in Ukraine through diplomacy is
00:17:10rather unattainable. Let's listen to the direct
00:17:13speech.
00:17:16The situation has reached a deadlock, and deadlocks are very dangerous, because
00:17:20they end in only one of two ways. The first is
00:17:23to achieve a negotiated settlement, in which each
00:17:26side must give up something to achieve peace. We have already tried
00:17:30and will continue to try to do everything possible to promote
00:17:34a negotiated settlement and the end of this war. The second
00:17:38way deadlocks end is escalation, one
00:17:41side, or both sides intensify their
00:17:44actions. Well, Vitaliy,
00:17:48let's just say that Ukrainian
00:17:51President Volodymyr Zelenskyy does not
00:17:54consider negotiations to have reached a diplomatic stalemate
00:17:57and says that, in fact, it is necessary
00:18:01not to talk
00:18:04with Russia, but to put pressure on it. What to expect from
00:18:08the meeting of Ukrainian negotiators,
00:18:12Ukrainian diplomats in the United States, and is it still possible, in your
00:18:15opinion, this
00:18:18return to pressure
00:18:21through negotiations, or are other mechanisms
00:18:24of influence on Russia needed, what mechanisms could these be? I believe that
00:18:28the US Secretary of State is right, negotiations are indeed in
00:18:31a stalemate. By the way, the German Foreign Minister also said this after
00:18:34meeting with the Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov. By the way, Rubio also met
00:18:38with Lavrov. That is, unlike
00:18:42Zelenskyy, Rubio and Wadepuhl have information
00:18:46directly from the source, while Zelenskyy lives in a world of his own
00:18:49perceptions, without direct contacts with the leadership of the Russian Federation. That's
00:18:53the difference.
00:18:55Rubio and Wadepuhl are witnesses to the fact that Russia is not going to fight
00:18:59with Ukraine, talk, but is going to destroy
00:19:01Ukraine. And there are no other intentions either with Putin,
00:19:05or with the Russian leadership, or with the Russian army. I think
00:19:09there will be none in the near future. So this is not a question of a negotiation process, there will be no
00:19:12negotiation process, but it is a question
00:19:16of how capable we will be of fighting back in the coming years
00:19:19of Russian-Ukrainian confrontation, or we will not be capable of fighting back, and then Ukraine as
00:19:23a state will disappear from the political map of the world, and most of its population will become refugees
00:19:27in neighboring European countries. This is just a simple reality,
00:19:30I hope we can fight back. The second
00:19:33point, all these trips...
00:19:37as we see, also have a completely different dimension. Now it's
00:19:41absolutely obvious why Vidkov and Kushner went to Moscow and to
00:19:45Kyiv. They went to Moscow exclusively to talk
00:19:48with Putin about Lukoil assets. He caught
00:19:52Trump and his entourage on this money hook. He was
00:19:56always looking for some specific money, and eventually
00:19:59Trump himself helped him when he imposed the so-called hellish
00:20:02sanctions against Lukoil and Rosneft. I remember everyone
00:20:05was so happy, oh Trump. Imposed sanctions for the first time,
00:20:09well done! But these sanctions don't work, they
00:20:12are postponed, no one has actually imposed these sanctions,
00:20:16they were imposed and immediately postponed, postponed until what moment? Until
00:20:19Lukoil sells its foreign
00:20:22assets, and they are negotiating about
00:20:25this with Vidkof and Kushner, because it's about
00:20:29companies, about people who are close to Trump's son-in-law, to his friend, to
00:20:32the administration, to people from the administration. This is
00:20:34the reality, and they went to Moscow for this purpose,
00:20:38to negotiate about this money, about these
00:20:41shares, and talks about peace in Ukraine, first of all, don't
00:20:44concern anyone, and secondly, they use these talks about negotiations for peace
00:20:48to camouflage attempts to buy these Lukoil shares, that's all.
00:20:52The visit to Kyiv was generally a camouflage. This is
00:20:55very regrettable, but we have less than a minute left, I still want to ask
00:20:59about the strikes of the Ukrainian defense forces on Russian
00:21:02oil refining. The strikes of the Ukrainian defense forces, Maria, are what brings
00:21:06any real negotiations much
00:21:08closer than the trips of Vidkof and Kushner. The trips of Vidkof and Kushner have no
00:21:12meaning at all, but the strikes of the defense forces do. I would say
00:21:16that Vidkof and Kushner's trips with the intention of making money from...
00:21:20those who continue the war. Most of the actions of Trump and his administration
00:21:23continue the war, our actions stop it, seek,
00:21:27create opportunities for its end. That's the difference, and
00:21:31now, when Ukrainians are so worried that they
00:21:34will be in darkness or cold
00:21:38in winter, we must remember that we have someone to rely on, we have
00:21:41international partners, we have a reconstruction plan, we
00:21:45ultimately have friendly Poland, friendly
00:21:48countries from the West, a friendly President of the European Commission, who is constantly
00:21:52looking for ways to help us with European integration, about
00:21:56which there is also good news this week. Who do those
00:21:59Russians have, especially in the Russian hinterland, where it can also be
00:22:03very dark and very cold this winter?
00:22:07Putin needs to think about this first and foremost and it's time to curtail the war.
00:22:10Thank you, Vitaliy, I wish he had thought about it sooner, because
00:22:14the Ukrainian defense forces are not sleeping.
00:22:17Thank you, see you again, you were watching the Center of Europe. Until next week.
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00:29:01Good afternoon, Mariya Gurska, Ukrainian journalist and head of Slava. Together
00:29:04with me, Pavel Koval, head of the Council for Cooperation with Ukraine.
00:29:08Hello. Good afternoon. Let's start with the fact that Russia
00:29:11is shelling Ukraine, killing children in peaceful
00:29:14cities. And it is from these footage, how
00:29:18a rescuer carries a child in just underwear,
00:29:21because this shelling for Putin's birthday, the Russian
00:29:24army treacherously carried out at night, when people
00:29:27were sleeping in their beds, in Pryluky, in
00:29:31Kremenchuk, in Kyiv.
00:29:40Russia kills children, and this is the Kremlin's goal, to kill all
00:29:44Ukrainians. Meanwhile, as a result of Russian
00:29:47обстрілів у цілій низці регіонів,
00:29:50particularly in Kyiv and Kyiv
00:29:54restrictions on
00:29:55supply are being introduced.
00:30:03This has already started, it's only October, Ukrainian homes have been without
00:30:06electricity for hours, so what
00:30:09aid does Poland plan, military and energy, what are you
00:30:13preparing for?
00:30:17What we've been talking about in recent days, first, support, when it comes to
00:30:21ammunition for F-16s, that was such
00:30:24an urgent issue that the press wrote about, which is extremely important for protecting
00:30:27the Ukrainian
00:30:28sky.
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