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00:00:03It's already October, and Ukrainian homes have been
00:00:06without electricity for hours, so what kind of
00:00:09assistance does Poland plan, military and energy, what are
00:00:13you preparing for,
00:00:17for what we've been talking about in recent days, first, it's support, when it comes to
00:00:21ammunition for F-16s, that was such an urgent
00:00:24issue that the press wrote about, which is extremely important for protecting the Ukrainian
00:00:28sky.
00:00:32As for civilian issues with a two-three month perspective,
00:00:35in the coming days I will personally coordinate meetings
00:00:38with representatives of numerous
00:00:41ministries to have a new support
00:00:44plan, because what was needed and important until
00:00:47now is still important, but the situation
00:00:50has changed,
00:00:53it differs from what we expected,
00:00:56the scale of attacks on civilian objects is huge, the scale...
00:01:06Kyiv, like Warsaw, is located on a large river and is divided into left and
00:01:10right banks, and a huge part of the people live on
00:01:14the left bank and work on the right.
00:01:17The Russians, I think, intended the following: if they paralyze
00:01:20transport communication in Kyiv, they will cause
00:01:24some social uprising or something like that. That's exactly how I understand
00:01:28their actions now. We all expected the Russians to focus on
00:01:31energy attacks to cause an energy
00:01:34crisis,
00:01:37but even before that happened, because winter hasn't arrived yet,
00:01:40we already see attacks on transport networks, among which Kyiv's
00:01:44bridges are key.
00:01:48And what's also new is that Russia is trying to strike
00:01:51the Internet, communication centers. There are many new
00:01:54elements, meaning that the strike is now aimed at communication
00:01:57and transport. Previously, there was no such scale. Mostly, the Russians
00:02:01focused on energy, now communication and transport
00:02:04have been added to energy, which means they have decided to engage
00:02:08in a tougher fight with Ukraine, because they are unable to gain an advantage on
00:02:12the front.
00:02:14Operation Vivaldi is currently underway, the Ukrainian army, the third army
00:02:18corps of the armed forces, is liberating new and new
00:02:22kilometers of Ukrainian territories under the command of
00:02:24Biletsky. And this is also a new fact that
00:02:28the White House administration is putting on...
00:02:39This is indeed a very important issue in such a large country as
00:02:42Ukraine, to protect our sky, to close
00:02:46it completely. Also new are military technologies, we see how
00:02:49they are developing, for example, now these jet drones
00:02:53fly at high speeds, it's hard to imagine the speed
00:02:56of a Russian jet drone at 600 km/h, then... Ukrainian
00:03:00intelligence reports that soon they will be able to develop
00:03:04speeds up to 900 km/h. Ukraine,
00:03:07meanwhile, uses active robotic turrets,
00:03:10equipped with artificial
00:03:13intelligence, to destroy drones that
00:03:15attack bridges and
00:03:18infrastructure. And Ukraine also plans
00:03:21to test a ballistic missile that will be able to reach
00:03:24Moscow. At this stage, it would be good, that is, it would be invaluable, if
00:03:28Poland and Ukraine could.
00:04:08It once again shows that Russia's war against Ukraine, especially in this new
00:04:11very hot phase after 2022,
00:04:15has led to a huge technological
00:04:18leap.
00:04:21The whole world will no longer return to what it was before, this is
00:04:24a matter of using drones, using robots, the rapid development of these
00:04:28technologies.
00:04:31economy, because dual-use research or even triple-use
00:04:35research for different purposes is key here, but
00:04:38first of all dual-use, that is, military and civilian. This is, by the
00:04:42way, also an additional argument why we spend
00:04:454.7% on defense, and about
00:04:497% of GDP on security in the broad
00:04:52sense. And this also explains why we, as Poland,
00:04:55decide to incur such large expenses, because at the same time we can
00:04:58research new technologies. from the point of view of their
00:05:01application, for example, in
00:05:04agriculture, forestry, medical,
00:05:08transport, etc., etc. Let's just note that
00:05:11the Polish government on the sixth of October approved a program to finance
00:05:14civil defense for $26 billion over
00:05:17the next 5 years, and I understand that this will include the very
00:05:21measures you listed. This is only a part, because other
00:05:24things that concern responding to a potential crisis that Russia
00:05:28might cause, we will discuss literally
00:05:31in the coming days. Meanwhile, Poland is strengthening its borders with Ukraine. In
00:05:35the Lublin and Subcarpathian voivodeships, alert systems
00:05:38for the population are being tested in case of air threats. And it is in Lublin region
00:05:41for the first time.
00:05:48troops, what is Poland preparing for? And to what extent
00:05:51is it possible that these Lublin Patriots will also protect
00:05:55part of the airspace over Western
00:05:57Ukraine,
00:06:00for me the question is simple: if Poland wants to avoid war, it must be
00:06:04as prepared for war as possible, that is, 4.7% of GDP for
00:06:08defense, about 7% if calculated for security in a broader
00:06:11sense, plus... Complete modernization of the border with
00:06:14Belarus, this is something we may not be talking much about yet,
00:06:17but Western colleagues who come to me are very
00:06:21impressed by how the border defense with Belarus looks today, because it is
00:06:24the border of the European Union and NATO. Finally, the arrangement of the border, providing
00:06:28security for the border with Ukraine, that is, the border
00:06:31of a NATO state and the European Union to the east of these
00:06:35organizations with a state that is friendly, that is an ally, but
00:06:39is outside the EU and NATO and is at war.
00:06:51Putin, so that he doesn't touch us, this is a kind of insurance
00:06:54policy against the escalation of the war. I also emphasize the
00:06:57importance of social networks. Lately, I've been working a lot with rural
00:07:01housewives. In Poland, there is a model of rural women's associations, which
00:07:05actually form a network throughout the country. To this
00:07:08end, voluntary fire brigades, by the way, were started in a very interesting way.
00:07:17They all need to know that their role is to reduce fear in
00:07:21society, so that there is no fear of Russia. Look, for example,
00:07:24at Anka Sluchanka's posts. Sluchanka is a locality of the head of the rural
00:07:28women's association near Krynyky in Podlachia. Who
00:07:32perfectly shows how her actions, which she used to perform daily
00:07:35simply in the sphere of maintaining good tradition and
00:07:38taste. The same preserves she makes in the village will now serve to...
00:07:52If someone asks me what guarantees that there will be no war, it is precisely
00:07:56that we are prepared for war, unfortunately, this has been known since
00:08:00ancient times, nothing new, better we will not
00:08:03invent here,
00:08:06what Russia is scaring us with, there are also news this week, primarily
00:08:09Latvian Interior Minister Janis Dombrava. announced on
00:08:13October 7 that unknown masked individuals had infiltrated Latvian
00:08:17territory from Belarus and carried out an act of sabotage,
00:08:20damaging infrastructure that serves to monitor
00:08:23the border. Shortly before this, unknown armed individuals
00:08:27from the Belarusian side attempted to push about 20
00:08:30illegal migrants across this
00:08:33border into Latvia. This is a scenario reminiscent of recent actions by Russia and
00:08:37Belarus against Poland. We see that this was practically
00:08:40a training, here already... real actions and greater pressure
00:08:44in these hybrid attacks, and, for example, Estonia is moving
00:08:48a key brigade from the city of Tapa to Jõhvi and Estonian officials
00:08:52say that the country is preparing for possible aggression from Moscow,
00:08:55although they do not expect the aggression to happen within
00:08:58the next two years, but they still believe that Russia
00:09:01will attack one of the NATO countries. You know, in our time it's hard to say that
00:09:05two years is a long time, it's rather a short time, because modern
00:09:09capabilities of warfare with the support of artificial intelligence and robots, if...
00:09:12if we also add the dynamic of the development of this situation, that is, that there will be more and more
00:09:16artificial intelligence, there will be more and more robots on the
00:09:19battlefield, then in two years we will have a completely new situation, but to
00:09:23prepare well for it, we need to act now. My firm
00:09:27position, which I repeat everywhere. The stronger, the better we
00:09:30prepare, the less space we leave for Russia to play on
00:09:34fear. If we think about what the essence of Russian
00:09:37politics is, it is fear, in generating fear. If we prepare, let's say,
00:09:41these rural housewives, these firefighters, these priests, so that they know
00:09:45what to tell people, in case of anything, and even now we talk to people
00:09:49that they need to have a certain supply of water, that they need to have a supply of dry food,
00:09:53that they need to have a certain amount of preserves, then this will completely
00:09:56change the situation, this is real deterrence for Putin, if
00:09:59these societal efforts are coordinated with
00:10:03state efforts, which I spoke about.
00:10:06Russia warns that it will use nuclear weapons in case
00:10:09of a blockade of the Kaliningrad region. At the same time, on October
00:10:136, the Lithuanian parliament voted to lift
00:10:16the ban on the deployment of nuclear weapons in the country. At the same time,
00:10:20the Kremlin spokesman had earlier threatened Lithuania with consequences for such
00:10:23a step in the form of attacks. So, how can the scenario
00:10:26develop? And is the deployment of nuclear weapons by allies
00:10:30in Eastern Europe, in Poland and the Baltic countries, possible?
00:10:33What is your opinion on this, and would it be a good
00:10:36idea, or is nuclear weapons
00:10:40truly the last word in war today?
00:10:44I think we are moving in this direction, so that American troops have permanent bases in
00:10:47Poland, so that there are more American troops in Central Eastern Europe,
00:10:51not for them to fight for us. We ourselves must learn
00:10:55that if we want to have a strong army, we must create our own
00:10:58strong army, but American troops on our territory are
00:11:01an additional guarantee that Putin will not do anything stupid.
00:11:05As for the discussion about the use of atomic weapons, I think that from
00:11:09time to time in this war we have such a moment of outlining
00:11:13positions, practically now everyone has outlined their position here. The Russians
00:11:16outlined their position: all right, if you attack Kaliningrad, we will
00:11:20use nuclear weapons, but no one is going to attack
00:11:23Kaliningrad.
00:11:35it often looks like that, but I don't think
00:11:38it's good, because everyone has defined their positions, it's clear who is
00:11:42where, there are no misunderstandings here, if someone is
00:11:46a democrat and stands for the development of Russia and for its normal democratic
00:11:49future, they will not support Putin, that is
00:11:53clear.
00:11:55for our Ukrainian viewers, let's say that there is no
00:11:59Kaliningrad region, there is Królewiec
00:12:02region, Russia changes names on
00:12:05maps, but this does not change its occupying
00:12:08essence. In Polish, our city was called
00:12:12Królewiec, it is very established in literature, I also think this is a call
00:12:16to Ukrainians not to use the name Kaliningrad, because it is
00:12:19a bit
00:12:20strange.
00:12:34Russia threatens attacks on Ukrainian civilian cities,
00:12:37instead we see that as a result of Ukrainian operations to strike
00:12:41deep in the enemy's rear, about
00:12:4451%
00:12:47of Russian oil refining capacities have already been disabled,
00:12:50how much, in your opinion, can this become Kashchey's needle and
00:12:54lead to a turning point in the war,
00:12:58honestly, I think that nothing radical will happen this year, Russian and Ukrainian positions
00:13:01will strengthen, Ukrainians will have a constant small advantage, which they have
00:13:05now, of course, now we are talking at such a specific moment, because
00:13:08this is literally a moment, because in two months everything
00:13:12may look different, why are we scared, because the Russians began to massively
00:13:16use jet drones, which
00:13:19is that soon we
00:13:23will know how to... war,
00:13:36if you look at 1941,
00:13:39it seemed that democratic Europe was in a very
00:13:43difficult situation and would not
00:13:45cope.
00:13:55If we look at the first phase of World War II, it seemed
00:13:58as if democratic Europe would not cope with Germany, but
00:14:01then let's look at what changed. Suddenly it turned out that the mobilization
00:14:05of the West, reason, modernity worked, and it will be the same here,
00:14:08believe me, it will be the same. At first there will be an impression that the Russians have
00:14:12an advantage in something, but still production capacities, intellectual forces,
00:14:15engineers, polytechnic universities, everything that the
00:14:18West possesses will cope. So I know that this sounds scary, but
00:14:22our role is to help Ukraine survive.
00:15:03What is Russia fighting for? It is fighting for ignorance, for
00:15:06darkness, poverty, and unhappiness.
00:15:10For the well-being of its narrow group of power, that is, Putin and his
00:15:13entourage. And such an idea, such a concept, cannot,
00:15:16I believe, work. First of all, it will not win.
00:15:19It will always collapse. We should have no illusions about this.
00:15:23The essence of the struggle, which.
00:15:57Victory over Russia. Do you think the West is finally
00:16:00ready for such a concept, to defeat
00:16:03Russia?
00:16:06is wrong when we talk about the West, as if it is
00:16:10disorganized, but today the West
00:16:12has an advantage in capital, technology, and human potential in
00:16:16everything. Sometimes procedures, sometimes tenders, sometimes various things that are part
00:16:20of the system of Western states block quick actions,
00:16:23but then this quick action comes, I am sure that the West
00:16:26has a plan, because if we compare the potential of Russia and
00:16:29the European Union, and also the United States, then the answer is
00:16:33probably obvious, let's not worry about this, the West is ready for this, I
00:16:36am surprised that there are still doubts about the West, as if we ourselves do not
00:16:40believe in ourselves, but I think that it is obvious, the West must
00:16:44believe in itself, and it will believe everything, rearm and in two or three
00:16:47years it will be ready for a greater confrontation, honestly, this
00:16:51is the only guarantee that this confrontation will not happen, if we
00:16:54do not do this, Putin will definitely attack, but if
00:16:57Putin sees that there are expenditures on weapons, that this is already
00:17:01launched, that factories are working, that the border is protected, and that
00:17:04there are entire social networks of people ready to block. associations,
00:17:18ladies, what are you afraid of, this is fake news, a politician will not say
00:17:22this, you are laughing at this now, but neither
00:17:25you nor I will say this, because we do not have access to so many
00:17:29people, we must prepare entire networks of people to
00:17:33interact with the authorities in the field of security, and here,
00:17:36for example, Ukraine has huge merits and
00:17:40experience, perhaps that is the right word. I remember the first times I
00:17:44visited Ukraine after 2022, and when I went to various
00:17:48front support centers, which were located, for example, near
00:17:51Kyiv, I met exactly such people there,
00:17:55the same women who, under normal conditions, made meat,
00:17:58vegetable or fruit preserves in the fall for winter, in this case they do the
00:18:02same, only it has a different meaning now. Now it concerns
00:18:05security, this...
00:18:08is an important thing, here I will somewhat disagree with you, because my
00:18:12media Slava Planova works on this and has a huge reach in Ukraine and
00:18:16a huge audience with whom we openly discuss these topics, we are precisely
00:18:19trying to inform people about the nature of disinformation, about these
00:18:23fake news campaigns that Russia is conducting and teach
00:18:26to form this understanding. It's good that you are doing this, but
00:18:30Grandma Genya, Grandpa Juzek, and
00:18:34everyone who meets with ordinary people daily will cope with this best.
00:18:42The role of the United States. In late October, new
00:18:45regular trilateral talks involving Ukraine and Russia, with the
00:18:49leading role of the United States, may take place. This was announced by Ukrainian
00:18:52President Volodymyr Zelenskyy during a briefing with German
00:18:55Chancellor Friedrich Merz in Kyiv. Do you believe in
00:18:59the possibility and effectiveness
00:19:01of restoration.
00:19:14quick effect, and perhaps President Trump decided to postpone them until
00:19:17after November 4, that is, after the midterm elections
00:19:21in the United States,
00:19:23what is missing for Putin to be ready for negotiations, is there a chance to
00:19:27stimulate him to this in such a short period? I am
00:19:31a realist, you don't have to ask him for anything, beg him for anything,
00:19:34you just have to show strength.
00:19:48Can this depend on a certain specific step, for example, granting
00:19:51Poland and Ukraine a license for the production of Patriots? These
00:19:54are elements, it will not depend on one step. Look how much
00:19:58has already happened, when it comes to military equipment during this
00:20:01war. And I'm only talking about this phase after 2022. I'm not talking
00:20:05about what happened before, because I myself participated in these various diplomatic
00:20:09missions to Western capitals, to the West of us, when I appealed there for
00:20:13tanks, for specific types of weapons, today we have already forgotten
00:20:16that these were entire political campaigns, because several
00:20:20years have passed, this war has been going on for over four years, this is also something
00:20:23absolutely new, it is not so often in the history of Europe that such an
00:20:27intense war lasts so long, and currently there is no end in
00:20:31sight.
00:20:34We must not stop and seek solutions on how to pressure Putin.
00:20:37On October 6, search operations began in the village of Lasków in the Lublin Voivodeship.
00:20:41According to historians, during World
00:20:45War II, as a result of the Polish-Ukrainian conflict,
00:20:48about 300 Ukrainians died in this place. Do you think
00:20:52that thanks to such steps as exhumations and historical
00:20:56dialogue, it will be possible to reach such a level of understanding
00:20:59that we will jointly honor our fallen? For me,
00:21:03this is not a historical dialogue. As you know, I very clearly separate this.
00:21:07Historical dialogue is where we compare the results of historical
00:21:10research and determine whether we agree on the level of
00:21:14interpretation or not. Such actions, like in Ułasków, are for me actions in
00:21:17the sphere of human, humanitarian rights, so that, regardless of what views someone had,
00:21:21what views their loved ones have today, how we argue about this, these
00:21:24fundamental rights regarding
00:21:28burial, exhumation, and search were respected.
00:21:31Let's see what will be found in Ułasków, I am glad that these works
00:21:34are ongoing, that they no longer create big sensations today, that
00:21:38normality has returned to this topic, that now these are
00:21:41primarily humanitarian issues. I am also glad about what
00:21:44is happening on the Ukrainian side. It is worth saying this, because after decades, and
00:21:48you, Madam Editor, also... were involved, we have a situation where
00:21:51applications for exhumation or search works, whether from one side or the other,
00:21:55are accepted without major political debates, without
00:21:58a meeting of presidents, it is hard to believe that until recently such
00:22:02matters were an element of conversation between the President of Ukraine and the Prime Minister
00:22:05of Poland, thank God that they were, because it brought results, but
00:22:09it was not normal, today it is normal that search operations
00:22:12and exhumations are ongoing, and they will continue, as a historian, I can only say that where
00:22:16search operations are being conducted, it is worth really doing it in advance...
00:22:28It's difficult because most experts from the Ukrainian Institute of National
00:22:32Memory are now fighting on the front, but I believe that
00:22:35the most important thing is that we reach a moment when we stop
00:22:38dividing the deceased into yours and ours, that these are, so to speak,
00:22:41our common victims, we must honor them together,
00:22:45and this is undoubtedly part of your concept, and part of the concept
00:22:49of those...
00:22:58because as a politician I have already learned in life that there are such processes that
00:23:02simply require time, and now I am
00:23:05extremely happy that this process has begun, I am
00:23:09very happy that I have already participated in several funerals where
00:23:12I met people who are now
00:23:1580 or even older, who lost families during
00:23:18the Volyn tragedy. and waited
00:23:22all their lives. The most interesting thing in conversations with these people is that
00:23:25it turns out they do not have anti-Ukrainian views.
00:23:28Instead, their emotions are often used by political
00:23:31radicals, and these people just want to bury their dead. And
00:23:34they are very happy that it finally
00:23:37happened. Perhaps it is worth doing all this just to look into
00:23:41the eyes of these people, who are often already very old, and say:
00:23:45I know it's late, I understand that it hurt, but still it
00:23:48is happening and it is good, there will be a
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00:29:37war, fakes change reality, this is ordinary senseless
00:29:40propaganda, as in Soviet times. Vitaliy Portnikov and Espresso
00:29:44host in the Saturday political club review the main events of the week
00:29:47through the prism of critical thinking. Only those who
00:29:51are ready to defend themselves will survive here. Do not let yourself be manipulated, follow
00:29:54current events to understand the future, together with the
00:29:58Saturday Political Club project, every Saturday on Espresso.
00:30:05servicemen of the 50th National Guard Regiment of
00:30:09Ukraine are addressing you. We are currently on the Terezky direction, where the enemy
00:30:12has intensified offensive actions and is putting pressure on the infantry. Therefore, we
00:30:16ask you to support the collection for
00:30:18equipment for reconnaissance and fire adjustment from the sky. This
00:30:22will help save the lives of our brothers. There are no small donations.
00:30:25We thank everyone who
00:30:27joins.
00:30:54Wounded military, missing, prisoners, displaced persons appeared in
00:30:57Ukraine during the Russian-Ukrainian.