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00:00:00greater popularity of ultra-right forces, including
00:00:03for this there are many economic
00:00:06prerequisites, prerequisites of social
00:00:08instability, social inequality, because
00:00:11the impoverishment of the European middle class very seriously
00:00:15contributed to this phenomenon that we are currently observing throughout
00:00:19Europe, but the Russians, of course, are doing everything possible to
00:00:22spread enmity and hatred, and as we see, in Poland everything
00:00:26began with the hatred of some not very adequate people
00:00:30towards Ukrainians, and it turned into actually threats of political
00:00:34terror against their own elites, and this is really
00:00:37a problem, that is, it is obvious that if people, I don't
00:00:41know, are radically minded, I don't know, don't like Tusk, well,
00:00:44in fact, it doesn't matter,
00:00:47about political statements, if they at the same time want to attack
00:00:50their own institutions, the prime minister, or the minister
00:00:54of defense, these are the political institutions on which the survival
00:00:58of the Polish state depends. It is obvious that the Russians have been working
00:01:02on this, and note that they are attacking precisely those people who
00:01:05consistently criticize the Russian leadership, who oppose the Russian aggressor,
00:01:09who support Ukraine, accordingly
00:01:12we can understand that this is about people
00:01:15who prevent the Russians
00:01:18from achieving their military goals, accordingly,
00:01:21if these people are under attack, then
00:01:24it is obvious that the trail leads to Moscow, and it is obvious that
00:01:28these are Russian actions.
00:01:30Thank you, thank you, Mr. Yuriy, for joining us this morning
00:01:34on our broadcast, Yuriy Bohdanov, political scientist, expert in strategic
00:01:37communications and partner of the company Truman, we
00:01:40talked about the so-called energy truce, as it is
00:01:44probably called, because only Trump knew about
00:01:47it, Ukraine agreed to it, but Russia
00:01:51obviously ignores it,
00:01:54as we see, Europe, European
00:01:58leaders support Ukraine in this
00:02:01next confrontation
00:02:03somewhere with attacks from the
00:02:07White House, and we will indeed follow
00:02:11how the situation develops further, because
00:02:14in two weeks in the United States of America
00:02:17there will be elections, and well, such behavior of Trump or such statements of Trump
00:02:21many observers associate precisely with this, precisely with
00:02:25the elections and with Trump's low ratings.
00:02:28Yes, and therefore
00:02:31such behavior is likely related to trying
00:02:35to boost and do something with his ratings.
00:02:38Well, and then in the next hour we will talk about this so-called
00:02:42energy truce with Mykhailo
00:02:45Honchar, and we will talk
00:02:48with Ihor Romanenko, Lieutenant General
00:02:52(ret.) about the strikes that the Ukrainian
00:02:54defense forces are currently inflicting on the territory
00:02:58of the Russian Federation. All this will be literally after the news
00:03:02release, ahead of you are news from Oksana
00:03:05Vysochanska, we will return to the studio after the release.
00:03:43Vysochanska. And we begin with the main thing. On October
00:03:4612 and 13, a security forum will be held in Warsaw, at which
00:03:50the Commander-in-Chief of NATO forces in Europe, General Alexus
00:03:53Grynkevychs, will for the first time publicly present the theory
00:03:57of victory over Russia. The strategy, which has been discussed
00:04:00at the highest level of the Alliance's Military Committee in recent
00:04:04months, will be dedicated to the future of NATO and the security of Europe. One
00:04:08of the key guidelines of the strategy is 2029.
00:04:12It was defined as an important term for preparing allies for future
00:04:15challenges. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy will also join the forum online,
00:04:19and the Ukrainian delegation will be led by Foreign Minister
00:04:23Andriy Sybiha. He will also present a Russian
00:04:26Shahed strike drone, which is used for attacks on
00:04:30Ukrainian cities, and participants will discuss how to limit
00:04:33the production of such drones. In total, the forum will gather about
00:04:362.5 thousand participants from 90
00:04:39countries, including representatives of NATO governments, the EU, and the defense
00:04:43industry.
00:04:47Poland and Europe will continue to support Ukraine in resisting Russian
00:04:50aggression. Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk assured
00:04:54Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy of this during a telephone
00:04:58conversation on October 11. The parties discussed strengthening
00:05:01Ukraine's defense capabilities and the current needs of the Ukrainian
00:05:05army amid intensified Russian attacks. Zelenskyy
00:05:08emphasized the importance of joint actions to ensure security
00:05:12and. The leaders also coordinated positions ahead of meetings at the
00:05:15EU level in Brussels. The conversation took place before the start
00:05:19of the Warsaw security
00:05:21forum.
00:05:24A man was detained in Poland who threatened Prime Minister
00:05:27Donald Tusk and Defense Minister Władysław Kosiniak-Kamysz.
00:05:31Tusk himself announced this. Earlier, the Polish police received
00:05:35information about a possible assassination attempt on the head of government and
00:05:38the head of the defense department. After that, Interior Minister
00:05:42Marchenko. and the coordinator of special services, Tomasz Symoniak,
00:05:45ordered the necessary measures to be taken. According to preliminary
00:05:48information, the threats could have come remotely. Details about
00:05:52the detainee and the circumstances of the case are currently not being reported by the Polish
00:05:55authorities.
00:05:59European intelligence agencies warned heads of defense companies about
00:06:02the threat of possible assassinations organized by Russia. This is
00:06:06reported by the Financial Times, citing representatives of five
00:06:09European intelligence services. According to the publication,
00:06:13not only the heads of large enterprises are at risk,
00:06:16but also employees of small companies that produce
00:06:19drones and components for them. Due to the warning
00:06:23from the special services, some executives have already strengthened their personal security,
00:06:27particularly during foreign trips. According to intelligence
00:06:30data, Russian GRU may be involved in preparing such
00:06:33operations, which cooperates with criminal groups and
00:06:37uses agent networks. Intelligence agencies
00:06:40believe that this is how Moscow wants to harm the defense industry
00:06:43of Europe and weaken support
00:06:45for Ukraine.
00:06:50Ukraine supports all real and reliable formats for ceasefire
00:06:54and war. Kyiv is ready not to strike
00:06:57Russian energy infrastructure and expects a similar
00:07:00readiness from Russia and an agreement
00:07:03from the President of the United States of America regarding this. The Armed
00:07:07Forces have received all necessary orders. Volodymyr Zelenskyy stated
00:07:10this in his evening address on October 11 in response to
00:07:14Trump's post that Ukraine and Russia
00:07:17allegedly agreed to a so-called energy truce. The President of Ukraine
00:07:21emphasized that this is good news for everyone and it is important that it becomes
00:07:25part of reality. At the same time, the State Duma of the Russian Federation reported
00:07:29that they have no information about similar agreements. And in
00:07:33the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine that same evening, after Zelenskyy's address,
00:07:36they published a statement that the Kremlin violated
00:07:39the truce immediately after its announcement, by striking
00:07:43the Kharkiv
00:07:44TPP-5.
00:07:47there is a statement by the President of the United States that
00:07:50an energy ceasefire has been reached. This
00:07:54is good news for everyone. It is important that
00:07:57this becomes part of reality. Ukraine
00:08:01supports all real and reliable formats
00:08:04for ceasefire and cessation
00:08:07of war. Ukraine is ready not to strike
00:08:10Russian energy infrastructure and
00:08:13we count on similar readiness
00:08:17from Russia and on the agreement of the President
00:08:20of the United States of America, regarding this,
00:08:23we, we welcome such
00:08:25an agreement. The World Health Organization
00:08:29has still not established the cause of death of a plague laboratory
00:08:33employee in Siberia, who died of severe pneumonia.
00:08:37This is reported by Reuters, citing a statement from the
00:08:39organization. At the same time, the WHO noted that no cases
00:08:43of plague have been registered, and no evidence of further spread
00:08:46of the infection was found. According to the Russian authorities,
00:08:50tests of the deceased and people who contacted her did not
00:08:53confirm the presence of verified dangerous pathogens.
00:08:57Earlier, it was reported that the woman could have broken a test tube with the causative agent
00:09:00of pneumonic plague, however, there is no official confirmation
00:09:04of this. The WHO emphasizes that the main
00:09:07uncertainty remains the lack of a confirmed
00:09:10diagnosis.
00:09:14hundreds of journalists, media managers, communicators and other
00:09:18media representatives on one platform. On
00:09:21the 11th in Kyiv, the Donbas Media Forum took place. For three
00:09:25consecutive days, my colleagues closely followed the discussions,
00:09:28the main topics of this event
00:09:31are collected for you in the material below.
00:09:35How not to lose a person amidst wars, political
00:09:38crises and the rapid development of artificial intelligence, this
00:09:41question has become cross-cutting at the Donbas Media Forum
00:09:452026, whose information partner
00:09:48is Slava TV channel. The main theme this year is
00:09:51a person, for a person and about a person. In addition,
00:09:55participants talked about European integration, the independence
00:09:59of editorial offices and the financial stability of the media.
00:10:02This year we thought about how to bring people back to the center, to
00:10:06the center of media discussion, to the center of the media agenda, because
00:10:10especially in recent years we talk a lot about artificial
00:10:13intelligence, about FIMI, about the influence
00:10:16of technological giants and so on, and for us
00:10:19it seems very important to talk about a person and bring a person back
00:10:23into focus. Special attention was paid to practical steps
00:10:26of media eurointegration. Forum participants
00:10:29discussed how the co-regulation system works,
00:10:33a mechanism by which industry representatives jointly develop
00:10:37rules of operation. In Ukraine, it has been operating for a year, but
00:10:41different segments of the media market are progressing at different
00:10:44speeds. In Ukraine, four joint regulatory bodies
00:10:47operate in the field, I will talk about
00:10:51audiovisual, that is, television, audio, that is.
00:10:57And we see that with different dynamics, these
00:11:00bodies are gradually developing their instructions
00:11:03and doing important
00:11:06things for the market. Also,
00:11:10experts considered how EU accession will affect
00:11:13media operations, what new duties, rights and
00:11:17opportunities will arise for media during European integration,
00:11:21and also, when editorial offices will feel this impact and whether they are ready
00:11:25to adapt national
00:11:28legislation to EU requirements. We need to do this before
00:11:31we join, so some laws,
00:11:35draft laws, have already been developed, and
00:11:38will be adopted sooner, and therefore certain rules can also
00:11:42come into effect sooner. Another
00:11:44key direction of the forum is the work of Ukrainian media in
00:11:48the conditions of full-scale war. Military units are increasingly
00:11:51actively, independently creating content and communicating
00:11:55with the audience, so journalists are no longer the only
00:11:58intermediaries between the front and society. At the same time, military
00:12:02communication and independent journalism have different
00:12:06tasks. Communication departments are largely
00:12:09staffed by civilians, just as at one time
00:12:13many civilians joined the Ukrainian army,
00:12:16and they changed the army, the army
00:12:20changed them, and they changed the army. The same
00:12:22happens with communications.
00:12:25This is a strange, strange symbiosis of civilian experience
00:12:29and military experience today. A separate topic is
00:12:32the stories of Ukrainians who survived Russian captivity.
00:12:36Stories of released prisoners help draw
00:12:39attention to those who are still in captivity. The forum discussed
00:12:43how to cover such stories without exposing prisoners and
00:12:46their families to additional
00:12:50risks. The logic we
00:12:53saw is very simple. If a person was
00:12:56public before being captured,
00:13:00then this publicity will not harm them. If a person
00:13:03was not public, then the responsibility of
00:13:06the media and the family directly
00:13:10leads to the fact that
00:13:13a person in captivity experiences problems. Another
00:13:16difficult topic is journalists' access to information
00:13:20about the war. Editorial offices need operational
00:13:23comments and the ability to independently cover
00:13:26events, while the military must take into account that
00:13:29published data can affect the safety of people and
00:13:33the course of operations. When we talk about freedom, when we
00:13:36talk about democracy, there is one aspect - it is freedom and
00:13:40freedom of speech, but there is another aspect, it is also
00:13:43the responsibility of everyone in a warring country, both
00:13:47military, and commander, and
00:13:50media representative, all this needs to be discussed, the question is, when
00:13:54does it need to be discussed? and to whom and how? from
00:13:57European integration to covering the war, Donbas
00:14:00Media Forum united topics that define the work
00:14:03of Ukrainian media today. New rules,
00:14:06security restrictions and technological changes pose
00:14:09various challenges to editorial offices, but at the center
00:14:12of journalism remains a person, their right
00:14:15to know the truth and be heard.
00:14:19That's all the news for now, my colleagues are already working on the next issue,
00:14:23and in the meantime, my colleagues Kateryna Nakrecha and Serhiy
00:14:27Rudenko will be working in the analytical studio, so stay with us.
00:16:40about, among other things, the situation and
00:16:43military cooperation between the United States and
00:16:47Ukraine. On the line with us is Ihor Romanenko,
00:16:50founder of the charity fund "Let's Close the Sky of Ukraine," Lieutenant General
00:17:04by Trump that Ukraine
00:17:08and Russia agreed to an energy
00:17:11truce, or a so-called energy truce, information appeared in Axios that
00:17:14the delegation of the United States of America threatened
00:17:18to stop providing intelligence data to Ukraine if it
00:17:21continued to strike Russian oil refineries,
00:17:24although in reality it is not about the United
00:17:28States of America unilaterally providing intelligence
00:17:31data to Ukraine, it is a mutual process
00:17:35and it is an exchange of intelligence data. What
00:17:38does it mean for Ukraine that
00:17:41the Americans will not provide us with their
00:17:45intelligence data, will European
00:17:48countries, and countries that are part of the North Atlantic
00:17:51Alliance in the European part of the countries, will
00:17:54they be able to compensate for this lack of intelligence data
00:17:58that may not be provided
00:18:01by Washington? Unfortunately, not in full.
00:18:05Individual states
00:18:09have such capabilities, for example, France, some
00:18:12small states, such as Norway, but overall,
00:18:16in terms of depth,
00:18:20scale, and long range,
00:18:24the Americans
00:18:25undoubtedly have the
00:18:28greatest capabilities, and this will affect
00:18:31the nature of the actions of the Ukrainian
00:18:35defense forces in inflicting strikes, that's right.
00:18:37They will be worsened, but we have already, firstly,
00:18:40experienced such actions,
00:18:44and secondly, in this regard, we know that, unfortunately, taking into account
00:18:48Trump's behavior, this can
00:18:52happen at any time, and you see what moment
00:18:55is being used now, and therefore in these conditions
00:18:59it is already better than if they had disconnected last time,
00:19:03but it is still undoubtedly a deterioration,
00:19:07but... on the other hand, we see that Trump's political
00:19:10situation inside the country is deteriorating,
00:19:13and these, so to speak, erratic
00:19:16movements influence other
00:19:20congressmen on this situation, including
00:19:23the expressed position
00:19:27within the Republican party and even
00:19:29more, the preliminary elections
00:19:33that are already being held in the states
00:19:36show that... in those where Republicans had an advantage,
00:19:39people vote
00:19:43against what Trump is doing in security, and in
00:19:46politics, and in economics, how this affects them, that is,
00:19:50summing up, we can say that if this happens, the situation
00:19:54will worsen, well, I think, not for
00:19:57long,
00:20:00due to this political situation inside
00:20:09of Ukrainian drones, there is
00:20:12a strike on the third Yandex data center
00:20:15in Russia, what
00:20:18consequences can be, how will this globally threaten
00:20:21Russians,
00:20:23well, firstly, the global nature lies in
00:20:27the fact that instead of
00:20:31international networks, they made Yandex themselves and use it, and
00:20:35therefore this is about...
00:20:39economic affairs, informational, social and
00:20:42so on, and indirectly, I would like to
00:20:46emphasize this, it affects, influences, and is not a question.
00:20:50Provision of its army,
00:20:53and, therefore, in addition, keep in
00:20:57mind that they have about a dozen powerful
00:21:00ones, but especially around Moscow,
00:21:03Moscow region, there are five, and
00:21:07three of them have already been struck, and this
00:21:10is reflected in the state, and also
00:21:14exerts moral and psychological pressure on the citizens of the deep
00:21:18nation, which is important, because
00:21:21well, traditionally
00:21:24supported the continuation of the special
00:21:27military operation, citizens of Moscow,
00:21:30St. Petersburg, and so on, when all this
00:21:33was perceived on television or in information networks, but when
00:21:36it entered the family directly to this
00:21:40so-called citizen of this
00:21:43aggressor country, then the situation changes,
00:21:47the number of supporters of the continuation
00:21:50decreases, and this also
00:21:53affects Putin, while still not with final
00:21:56results, but he knows that this picture
00:21:59is worsening, and the window of opportunity for waging
00:22:02hostilities is slowly but
00:22:05surely closing. Trump insists, Mr. Ihor, that
00:22:09Ukrainians abandon strikes on Russian
00:22:13oil refineries, what and how can
00:22:16this change the situation in the war, if... if suddenly the Americans force
00:22:20the Ukrainian defense forces not to strike
00:22:23Russian oil refineries, and
00:22:26instead the Russians will say: "Well, we are not hitting your
00:22:29only oil refinery that is not working, that's exactly this parity that
00:22:33the American leader spoke about,
00:22:36does this mean that in
00:22:40this situation Trump acts as a person who
00:22:44supports Putin, a war criminal,
00:22:47and the Russian regime, because..."
00:22:50the only or not the only
00:22:53trump card that the Ukrainian defense forces
00:22:56have now, by hitting the Russian rear
00:22:59and destroying their oil refining capabilities, is that he
00:23:02takes away this only trump card, and in fact,
00:23:05the Russians will have many more opportunities now
00:23:09to destroy the Ukrainian rear, well, we
00:23:12discussed that in order to destroy
00:23:16effectively, we certainly need American intelligence
00:23:20data, but before delving into how
00:23:22this will happen, we need to clearly understand and
00:23:26show that, first of all, this is such a propaganda
00:23:29step, they agreed, or rather,
00:23:33they did not agree in a phone
00:23:36conversation, Putin again pressed
00:23:38Trump, and he, you see, always
00:23:41follows the instructions of
00:23:45the leader he admires. He would like to have
00:23:48such powers in his country, Trump, I mean, he doesn't succeed in that, but
00:23:52to carry out Putin's tasks, unfortunately,
00:23:56yes, and this says a lot about
00:23:59how Putin keeps Trump on
00:24:03the hook, and therefore we need to show
00:24:05that, well, in October
00:24:09100 thousand promised by Russia of diesel, and the first
00:24:13tanker has already approached, unfortunately, the coast of the United
00:24:16States, then a collection... then
00:24:22a million, this is this year November and December,
00:24:28and this is nothing, well, firstly, we still need to know that America itself,
00:24:32means, exports six
00:24:36million, that's the logic, they sell six million abroad,
00:24:39and Trump says that there is not enough, and
00:24:43the reason is precisely in Ukraine, well, as everyone understands, the reasons
00:24:47are not there, it's the Iranian war, the Romanian
00:24:51strait, the Bab el-Mandeb strait, there the Houthis block and
00:24:54strike, and that's why this
00:24:58is being done to influence and
00:25:00conduct agitation internally, that is, Putin is thus
00:25:03trying to formally, not essentially, support
00:25:07Trump's fight for staying in Congress,
00:25:10the Republican Party, meaning to have the corresponding influence of this
00:25:14president, and not to become a lame duck, that is.
00:25:18If the House of Representatives is taken by
00:25:20Democrats, and there is a high probability, and also
00:25:23in the Senate, then this can turn
00:25:27into two very difficult
00:25:29years for Trump
00:25:32in terms of his effectiveness,
00:25:36in any direction, such stories have happened
00:25:39in America, and what it turns into,
00:25:43it's quite serious events and
00:25:46changes, including. and possible
00:25:50impeachments. Trump went
00:25:52through this in his first term, and for him it's
00:25:55serious, so this diesel,
00:25:59moreover, the Russians can
00:26:03take it, they don't have enough for
00:26:06such tasks, because the Russians themselves could
00:26:09supply 3 million a month, but now it's
00:26:13not happening all because of our
00:26:17strikes deep inside, and therefore for
00:26:20us it is fundamental, perhaps we need to find ways,
00:26:24for example, to identify where most
00:26:27of the diesel is produced and hit those places less, and
00:26:31present it... That is, with Trump, we still need to
00:26:34do, in addition to the work in essence, which is primarily done by our
00:26:38Ukrainian defense forces and our
00:26:41diplomats, but also engage in
00:26:44informational work, I would say
00:26:47counter-propaganda, American, and
00:26:51here we can make some concessions, but in essence,
00:26:54they, the Americans, his team have repeatedly behaved this
00:26:57way, and we need to return to them with the same
00:27:01weapon. It's bad that a partner has to talk about weapons,
00:27:04as it were, in this sense, but these are the consequences
00:27:08of this president's behavior. Yes, Mr.
00:27:15are preparing plans on how to respond
00:27:19to Russian threats. Here, the Supreme Commander
00:27:22of NATO Allied Forces in Europe, General Alexus Grynkevych
00:27:25will present its victory strategy for the
00:27:28Warsaw Security Forum for the first time. We will
00:27:32transmit and broadcast this
00:27:35speech. It will be possible to hear it live exclusively on
00:27:38Slava's YouTube channel from
00:27:4014:10 to 14:40
00:27:44Kyiv time. It will also be possible to see it on Espreso's television
00:27:47broadcast. If we talk about NATO's victory strategy,
00:27:51then this document defines how to organize
00:27:54the management of allied forces in Europe so that they can
00:27:58effectively repel an attack by a potential aggressor.
00:28:01Earlier... Bloomberg reported that the plan
00:28:04concerns countering possible Russian aggression
00:28:08on NATO's eastern flank, so
00:28:11we will wait to see what
00:28:14Mr. Hrynkevych will present, yes, during
00:28:22briefly, Hrynkevych, the plan before this NATO had
00:28:26a deterrence concept, and now they are already developing
00:28:29active countermeasures, and this is important for us. That
00:28:33is, for prevention, and as we know, NATO
00:28:36generals gathered in Kyiv, that is, a more
00:28:39active position, active defense, I would say,
00:28:42is being developed, and the holding of
00:28:46this forum on Monday and Tuesday is very important. There will be many
00:28:50security issues that will directly concern
00:28:53Ukraine, but not only security in Ukraine, success in
00:28:55this, General, following the speech by Alexus
00:28:59Hrynkevych at the Warsaw Security Forum. Let me remind you that this
00:29:03will happen today, so wait for this
00:29:06speech. So, this was Ihor Romanenko, founder
00:29:09of the charity foundation "Closed Sky of Ukraine", Lieutenant General from the station. Mr.
00:29:13Ihor, thank you for participating in the program. And the US President, as
00:29:17we know, announced that he had agreed with Vladimir
00:29:20Putin to buy millions of tons of Russian diesel. In
00:29:24Moscow, they have already announced that they are ready
00:29:27to ship fuel, but they will continue
00:29:30the war against Ukraine. Meanwhile, in the United States of America,
00:29:34a bipartisan bill is being prepared
00:29:37to ban the purchase of Russian oil. What
00:29:40is behind this diesel deal, will it affect
00:29:43negotiations, and will it pave the way for an
00:29:46energy truce? Our colleague
00:29:50Yulia
00:29:51Hunnko will tell us.
00:29:54300 tons immediately, another 500 tons in November, then
00:29:58another million tons and within a short period an additional
00:30:013 million. In total, almost 5 million. This
00:30:05is the volume of diesel fuel that Russia will supply to
00:30:09American and world markets according to the agreement. Donald Trump announced this on October 9
00:30:12on his social network. Thanks to
00:30:16our complete control over the Strait of Hormuz and this
00:30:19great news regarding Russian energy resources, diesel prices
00:30:23for Americans and indeed throughout the world will fall to
00:30:27record lows, and this will happen quickly. According
00:30:30to Trump, lowering prices for citizens is his highest priority.
00:30:34On the same day, the US Treasury issued a general license for operations with
00:30:38Russian fuel. Its import, as well as the provision of services
00:30:41for sea transportation, had been banned since March
00:30:452022.
00:30:46While Trump and Putin were negotiating
00:30:50by phone, Zelensky was receiving delegates in Kyiv from...
00:30:53приймав делегатів з...