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00:00:06good evening everyone and welcome if you are joining us on France 24 as part
00:00:09of this special page dedicated to
00:00:13the results of the social democrat left primary
00:00:16PS place publique the results that
00:00:19just came in a few minutes ago and Raphael
00:00:22Gluxman is largely leading this
00:00:26primary with 79,000
00:00:28Meyerossignol, who is the representative of votes, which is 66. 13% of the votes. Raphael
00:00:32Gluxmann, whose speech we are awaiting in a few moments
00:00:36from the Solaris hall in the 20th arrondissement of Paris, where the
00:00:39results were communicated
00:00:43earlier by the former PS deputy
00:00:46Patrick Menucci.
00:00:49For the other results, it is a real disavowal for the first secretary
00:00:53of the socialist party Olivier Fort who only collects
00:00:5614% of the votes, 7.62
00:01:00% for the former presidential candidate of 2007 and
00:01:03former minister Ségolène Royal,
00:01:065.92% for Emmanuel Morel, deputy of
00:01:09the republican and socialist left and
00:01:125.83 % of the votes for
00:01:16deputy Jérôme Guedge, we are still
00:01:19here to talk about it with our guest Frédéric Saviki, good evening again,
00:01:22I remind you that you are a professor of political science at the University of Paris Panthéon
00:01:26Sorbonne, researcher at the European center for sociology and political science,
00:01:30affiliated with the CNRS, so we are waiting in a few moments for the speech
00:01:34of Raphael Gluxman, in any case, the result
00:01:37was extremely clear for him, more than 66
00:01:41% of the votes,
00:01:44Sunday in the Africa we didn't expect such a score, yes, we didn't expect such a
00:01:46score, there were still five candidates, so you see
00:01:50getting two-thirds of the votes when there are five candidates in total, it's
00:01:53still a real performance, so he was the most
00:01:57anticipated candidate, why was he the most anticipated? because he is also the most
00:02:01known, the one who has regularly
00:02:04been tested for several years by polling institutes
00:02:07as a potential candidate, he benefited and
00:02:11thank you to the socialist party for being launched
00:02:14in 2019 at the European elections as a lead candidate and then again
00:02:18in 2024, which means that
00:02:21he has already led national campaigns even if
00:02:24obviously it was much less personalized than the presidential
00:02:28election will be, and so we can... say that a fairly large
00:02:32part of the voters made a useful vote by telling themselves
00:02:35that finally it was better to listen
00:02:38to Gluxman now this fight, now I'm going to make the declaration
00:02:56is moving towards the podium, we will listen to his
00:02:59victory speech in a few moments,
00:03:03excuse me, I interrupted you Frédéric Saviki on yes, I was just saying
00:03:06that indeed I think a significant portion of
00:03:10voters must have voted strategically for some of them and then another portion
00:03:13was no doubt seduced
00:03:17by this rather uncompromising stance towards
00:03:21La France Insoumise and so obviously it is up to
00:03:24him now to rally all these
00:03:26people and during her speech
00:03:30her reaction to her defeat earlier, Ségolène Royal said that it was going to
00:03:33be difficult, anyway, we will
00:03:36result therefore of this primary of probably come back to it, we will first listen to Raphael Gluxman,
00:03:49I would like to start by thanking
00:03:53all the participants in this democratic
00:03:57could say tonight about this social-democratic left exercise. Our political family
00:04:01can be proud,
00:04:02next editions, in the rest of proud to organize a democratic process
00:04:06to resolve its
00:04:08will therefore develop the main differences and to
00:04:10that a former finalist of choose its candidate for the presidential election of
00:04:122027. Democracy
00:04:15has spoken, it has spoken
00:04:19thanks to the activists and militants of the
00:04:23Socialist Party, of Place Publique, of
00:04:27to restore GRS, and thanks to... all the
00:04:30citizens, all the left-wing citizens who
00:04:34came, who participated, who
00:04:37voted, they give me
00:04:41immense hope,
00:04:44democracy has spoken and the result is undeniable, I am
00:04:47therefore this evening the
00:04:50Washington after Donald Trump's announcement of candidate of the democratic left for the presidential election of
00:04:542027.
00:05:00He will therefore be in this campaign the
00:05:02candidate for social and
00:05:05fiscal justice, for the ecological
00:05:08revolution
00:05:10and for democracy.
00:05:13The candidate for a break with Macronism, the
00:05:16candidate for a break with Jean-Luc Mélenchon's hegemony
00:05:20over the French left, the
00:05:22candidate who will be able to defeat our
00:05:26eternal enemy, the far-right,
00:05:29no, Madame Le Pen will not be
00:05:32at the Elysée in May
00:05:332027,
00:05:41I measure. I measure the immense responsibility
00:05:44that this represents. Tonight, the
00:05:48battle for France begins. Tonight,
00:05:51I call on citizens who
00:05:54believe in the spirit of justice that makes
00:05:57our nation great.
00:06:00I call on sincere republicans, I call on those
00:06:04who fight every day to keep the Republic
00:06:07standing, those who ensure that solidarity is not an empty word
00:06:11in our country. Those who resist injustice,
00:06:14those who feel powerless and would like to be able
00:06:17to act, I call on all of them to
00:06:21join us and lead the campaign,
00:06:25this is the most important election of the 5th
00:06:28Republic, it is undoubtedly the last
00:06:31chance election for France, so that France
00:06:35remains itself, a land
00:06:38of justice, a land of liberty, a land
00:06:41of equality. A land of fraternity, it is
00:06:44now that it is being played out, that France
00:06:47remains faithful to its ideal
00:06:51of justice and to its greatness, my
00:06:55first responsibility is
00:06:57to unite, to unite the entire
00:07:00socialist family, to unite
00:07:03then the entire family of the democratic
00:07:06left, I tell you,
00:07:10our real adversary,
00:07:13"it is not in this space, our
00:07:16real adversary, is the far-right, and we
00:07:20will unite to go into battle and
00:07:24prevent the Trumpists, the Putinists, the
00:07:26xenophobes and the demagogues from seizing the
00:07:30Republic,
00:07:39my responsibility is therefore to unite and I
00:07:42salute you Emmanuel, I see you in the hall
00:07:46and I congratulate you for your
00:07:48campaign,
00:07:52to unite the entire
00:07:55family and to go into battle
00:07:58together, each and every one has their
00:08:02place, their role in this
00:08:05battle, it is also about uniting
00:08:08to carry out the ecological
00:08:11revolution. The environmentalists, all the
00:08:14environmental activists, it is about uniting the
00:08:17supporters of social and fiscal justice, it is about
00:08:21uniting beyond parties, the citizens who are active
00:08:25in society and who
00:08:28want, who want to take their part in the
00:08:32great struggle that is coming. My
00:08:34second responsibility, I tell you,
00:08:38is to say nothing that we will not keep later.
00:08:43The situation of our democracy is too
00:08:46serious, the suspicion of insincerity that weighs
00:08:49on the political elite is too deep,
00:08:53we are going to run a campaign without
00:08:56lying and we are going to show one thing
00:08:59that sincerity can
00:09:01win,
00:09:10so tonight I call... all lovers of
00:09:13democracy, all lovers of Republican France,
00:09:16to mobilize right now,
00:09:19not simply to prevent the worst
00:09:22from happening, but because we can still build
00:09:26the best together, for ourselves, for our
00:09:29children, with this primary, we have
00:09:33given strength back to the left, it is now up
00:09:36to all of us
00:09:40France's power, Thank you,
00:09:43this is just the
00:09:44beginning,
00:09:52speech, this victory speech by Raphael Gluxmann, easy winner
00:09:55of the social democratic left primary
00:09:59with 66.13
00:10:03% of the votes, he is therefore the sole candidate of the PS Place
00:10:06Publique for the 2027 presidential election, it is just after
00:10:107pm here in Paris and good evening to those who... are joining us in this
00:10:13special page dedicated to these results of the
00:10:16social democratic primary, so Raphael Gluxman came in
00:10:20first with 66.13 % of the votes, a real
00:10:24blow for Olivier Fort, the first secretary of the PS, only 14
00:10:28% of the votes, 7.62
00:10:30% for the former presidential candidate Ségolène
00:10:34Royal, Emmanuel Morel only collected 5.92
00:10:38% of the votes and 5.83 %
00:10:41for deputy Jérôme Guedge and we are still with
00:10:44our guest Frédéric Saviki, professor of political science at
00:10:48the University of Paris Panthéon Sorbonne, researcher at the European center for
00:10:51sociology and political science affiliated with the CNRS.
00:10:55Frédéric Saviki, we have just listened to the speech, the
00:10:58victory address of Raphael Gluxman, who obviously
00:11:02expresses his pride, his joy, a speech
00:11:06nevertheless tinged with gravity, we can say, with these
00:11:09phrases, tonight, the battle for France begins so that the
00:11:12Republic, nothing less, stands strong, the election,
00:11:16it is the most important of the 5th Republic, the election, he says, of the
00:11:20last chance for France to remain faithful to its greatness and to its
00:11:23ideal of justice. Raphael Gluxman also
00:11:26designated the sole and unique
00:11:29adversary at this stage for the left
00:11:33which is the far right absolutely it's a
00:11:36speech to say the far right is a priority
00:11:40indeed for Gluxman it's the enemy so it's not
00:11:44so much LFI as we would like to say that's also what we need to
00:11:48understand by that well on the substance he he is obviously right
00:11:51because all his fight now will be both to
00:11:54qualify. possibly the second round and then to
00:11:57beat
00:11:59Marine Le Pen if she is the one who goes all the way with this idea
00:12:03obviously that Jean-Luc Mélenchon would not be able to would not be able
00:12:06today to achieve this performance so that's also what
00:12:10is at stake here obviously he also has an
00:12:13insistence I noted the term democratic
00:12:16left so that means there would be a left that
00:12:19would be less democratic or not democratic so it's a way of skillfully
00:12:23differentiating himself from... LFI, but I don't know how it
00:12:27will be interpreted by all left-wing voters, with this
00:12:30very important idea of ecological revolution
00:12:34too, the message, well, he didn't
00:12:37talk about communists, but he clearly talked about ecologists, that will be in a certain
00:12:41way his first, his first
00:12:43mission, if we can say so, his first challenge,
00:12:46well, he wanted to be the candidate for social and fiscal justice and ecological
00:12:49transition, so indeed, while uniting the
00:12:53socialists, it might be... difficult but still with his score
00:12:57it could be easier than he feared, on the other hand,
00:13:00now he will have to prevent environmentalists from looking
00:13:04to Jean-Luc Mélenchon, both the party itself
00:13:08and the voters, so we expect him on that
00:13:11ground too, and finally he has a last point if we want to affirm that he will
00:13:15indeed be a democratic left,
00:13:19the big question is how he intends to embody the presidential
00:13:22role if he is to take it on, that is to say are we going to continue in the
00:13:25Jupiterian style, implied no, so he will
00:13:29have to, he said during the last debate, he wanted to break with that absolutely, and there we will
00:13:32also expect him on democratic and institutional proposals because
00:13:36we remember that for the Yellow Vests, it was a
00:13:39strong demand, the citizens' initiative referendum
00:13:43for others the idea that we must depersonalize and
00:13:46depresidentialize power, it is highly anticipated on the left, so here
00:13:49too he will also have to convince that if
00:13:52he governs it will not be entirely.
00:13:58again implied, during the last debate against the
00:14:01other candidates, well, the challenge will really be to
00:14:05unite the left, Ségolène Royal, during her
00:14:08post-defeat reaction, said it would be
00:14:11very, very difficult. Yes, Ségolène says
00:14:15that, she kind of self-appoints herself as the guardian of the
00:14:18socialist temple, but obviously with
00:14:217.6 % of the
00:14:24votes. and we are still less expected and less
00:14:27heard, that is to say, well, she tried a comeback anyway and
00:14:31then we have to admit
00:14:35the presidential election, who got 47% against Sarkozy in 2007, what is the message anyway, we
00:14:38want new faces, I am
00:14:41she tries somehow to impose herself on the political landscape, I'm not sure that the
00:14:45score she got allows her to claim it, so
00:14:48she had the experience on her side but obviously it didn't convince
00:14:52many of the voters who participated. in the
00:14:56vote, so I'm not sure she will continue to
00:15:00play an important role in the
00:15:03coming months, we might see other socialists actually take her
00:15:07place, socialists who would have or who will have
00:15:10supported Raphael Gluxmann right
00:15:13from this election, there are still quite a few
00:15:16and we don't find them so much in Olivier Fort's camp, we find them rather in the opposite camp,
00:15:20so the whole question obviously now will be, will
00:15:23this vote cause a deflagration within the socialist
00:15:27party, in other words, Olivier Fort, speaking of him, only 14
00:15:30% of the votes, there too, yes, he said he
00:15:34said he would stay no matter what at the head of the socialist party, but
00:15:37it is clear that when you have such a low
00:15:41score, even if it's not only socialists who voted, it's
00:15:44still going to be very, very complicated to be able to continue to
00:15:48lead this party, we risk seeing in the coming days a call
00:15:52for a resignation or at least well, Boris Vallot supported
00:15:55his main
00:15:58challenger, president of the socialist group, supported Raphaël Gluxmann from the
00:16:02first round, Nicolas
00:16:06the other internal opposition current, supported Raphaël Gluxmann,
00:16:09so we can imagine that these
00:16:12leaders will try in one way or another to
00:16:16push Olivier Fort towards the exit door, so he's not
00:16:20obliged to resign, he doesn't have to, only a congress can potentially, but
00:16:23he is already a minority in the party, but it's true that it will be
00:16:27very, very complicated and at most
00:16:30we can imagine, if he didn't resign,
00:16:33that he would adopt a fairly low profile in the
00:16:36coming campaign. And that's it for him, it's really
00:16:40going to be a bit of a desert crossing for the
00:16:43next few weeks or months. What could
00:16:47now allow this social-democratic left, whose face
00:16:50for the presidential election is Raphaël Gluxmann, to catch up with Jean-Luc
00:16:54Mélenchon? Well, he still
00:16:57remains much less known than Jean-Luc
00:17:01Mélenchon to the general public. In the first
00:17:04TV shows that took place during
00:17:08the primary, well, we reached a maximum of 1.8
00:17:10million
00:17:12viewers,
00:17:14and that's not negligible, but it's still not huge. So now
00:17:18he's going to be put more in the spotlight, French people will
00:17:22get to know him, and it will be up
00:17:25to him to show that he has the stature, because
00:17:29the problem, if you will, for Raphaël Gluxmann, is both
00:17:32indeed his perception as a
00:17:35newcomer, let's say, liberal,
00:17:38even if he largely corrected the course and he didn't
00:17:41support Macron in 2017, so that's still to his credit, it's
00:17:44undeniable, and he's doing what it takes to send signals to the
00:17:48left, but above all, the question will obviously be, is
00:17:51someone who is just a European deputy, who has
00:17:54never been a minister, who has never been at the
00:17:57head of an executive, is he capable
00:18:00of actually meeting the challenges that he himself has
00:18:03highlighted? So now it's indeed
00:18:07uh I was going to say he will
00:18:10have to throw himself into the battle without a safety net, so
00:18:14I'm waiting to see, I would refrain from making any
00:18:17predictions, he still has a capital of 8, 9, 10%
00:18:21of potential voters. Uh, we have already seen
00:18:24reversals to the detriment of, for example, Benot in 2017, he
00:18:28was largely ahead of Jean-Luc Mélenchon, he collapsed, what
00:18:32is it today that tells us what to draw, well, what, well,
00:18:36that in a presidential campaign, as much as
00:18:39the blocs are quite
00:18:42fixed, a far-right bloc, a right-wing,
00:18:46center-right bloc and then a left-wing bloc, as much as the
00:18:49balance of power within these blocs can be subject
00:18:52to upheavals, if only because there is also a logic
00:18:56of strategic voting in presidential elections, many
00:18:59left-wing voters will want to avoid at all costs that Marine Le Pen
00:19:02wins, and if from January, February it
00:19:06is regularly confirmed by polls that a second round of Jean-Luc
00:19:10Mélenchon, Marine Le Pen, is the almost
00:19:12certain guarantee that Marine Le Pen will be at the Élysée, we can
00:19:16think that a number of voters will change their
00:19:20minds, just as for center-right voters, if
00:19:23by chance, well, at bottom, whether Édouard Philippe's
00:19:27very, very right-wing positions don't take off,
00:19:30Raphaël Gluxman can also gain
00:19:34votes from that side, we'll hear Olivier Fort's speech.
00:19:37Olivier Fort, first secretary of the socialist
00:19:39party.
00:19:49Does it work? Yes, you are live, we are listening to you. Tonight,
00:19:53I am proud to lead a party that organized an
00:19:56open primary for its sympathizers. I
00:20:00want to warmly thank those who
00:20:03made this vote possible, including
00:20:07when we had to face a large-scale
00:20:10cyberattack. 120,787
00:20:14citizens were therefore able to participate in this
00:20:16election after three televised
00:20:19debates. Several million French women and
00:20:22men attended these exchanges, I
00:20:26see this as a sign of renewed interest in democratic
00:20:29and ecological socialism.
00:20:31A very clear majority emerged
00:20:35in the first round.
00:20:39You managed to convince a majority of voters and I
00:20:43respect the democratic process of the primary that I
00:20:47wanted too much not to accept it with wisdom.
00:20:51"You are now the elected candidate of the three associated
00:20:54parties in this primary, Place Publique, the Socialist
00:20:58Party and the Republican and Socialist
00:21:01Left. I thank all the
00:21:04candidates, Ségolène Royal, Emmanuel Morel, Jérôme
00:21:07Guedge, who in this exercise, all
00:21:11made possible a debate that I believe
00:21:14was enlightening and a debate that also allowed to show what
00:21:18the democratic left was capable of.
00:21:20Both a confrontation and at the same time mutual
00:21:23respect. Finally, I would like to thank the 18,000
00:21:27voters who chose my ballot. All
00:21:31of you said a simple thing: we will win
00:21:34this presidential election through a united
00:21:37left, the socialist,
00:21:40environmentalist, communist
00:21:43left, the trade union left, the associative
00:21:46left, that of local elected officials. Without
00:21:50this galaxy that I wished to embody in this primary, no
00:21:53social and ecological transformation is imaginable.
00:21:57As first secretary, I will continue to contribute
00:22:00to it. From Tuesday, I will be alongside
00:22:04high school students and university students, and
00:22:08in the fight over the budget.
00:22:11There you have it, we now have a candidate, and it is up to all of us
00:22:14to forge this spirit of victory together.
00:22:17Thank you!
00:22:26And that's it for the speech by Olivier Fort, First Secretary of the
00:22:29Socialist Party, who, we remind you, only achieved
00:22:3214% uh, only gathered, pardon,
00:22:3614% of the votes from this vote, the social-democratic
00:22:39primary, of which Raphaël Gluxmann, we remind
00:22:43you for those joining us, is the big winner with over
00:22:4666% of the votes, 12,000 voters.
00:22:50participated in this primary, perhaps a final word
00:22:53uh on that, Mr. Saviki,
00:22:56uh well, Olivier Fort logically
00:23:00calls for unity, besides for Raphael Gluxman, it's
00:23:03a particularly painful
00:23:07defeat. Yes, he showed a lot of dignity and
00:23:10responsibility in his intervention, but anyway,
00:23:13well, uh he announced that he would remain in
00:23:17office. It remains to be seen now if other
00:23:20members of the Socialist Party leadership will continue
00:23:24to accept him remaining in office or if they will not exert
00:23:28pressure for him to leave. So we could say that on the one
00:23:31hand, it's not the time to declare open warfare and sow
00:23:35discord so as not to tarnish
00:23:37this democratic momentum. So perhaps we
00:23:41will see in the coming weeks and months
00:23:44a kind of status quo until
00:23:47the presidential election itself, but uh it is clear that
00:23:51Olivier Fort appears more and more as a first
00:23:55secretary who is hanging by a thread and who will have to show indeed that he
00:23:59is uh I was going to say alongside the candidate
00:24:02Luxman, everything
00:24:05by trying, for example, by participating in demonstrations at the level of
00:24:08budgetary policy, since he is a parliamentarian, uh trying
00:24:12to assert indeed his line that he defends, but we will see
00:24:15indeed how he manages to overcome this challenge, thank you
00:24:19very much. for analyzing and commenting
00:24:22for us on France 24 the
00:24:26the social-democratic left, which I remind you, uh the
00:24:30result 66.13
00:24:33% for Raphael Gluxmann who therefore wins this primary
00:24:37easily, only 14% for Olivier Fort, first secretary of the Socialist
00:24:40Party, so you were able to follow his speech
00:24:43a few moments ago on our channel, that's what we
00:24:47primary, we will come back to it... of course in our
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00:30:07It's 8pm here in Paris, good evening everyone and welcome, if you are joining us on France
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00:30:149pm Paris time, here are the main headlines of this
00:30:17Sunday, Raphael Gluxmann, landslide winner of the
00:30:21social-democratic left primary with more than
00:30:2466% of the votes, he will therefore be the sole candidate
00:30:28of the PS and Place Publique for the 2027 presidential election
00:30:31and it's a real [unclear] for the first secretary of the Socialist Party Olivier Fort
00:30:34who came in 2nd position with only 14% of the votes,
00:30:37Raphaël Gluxman calls for unity to defeat
00:30:41the far right, the battle of France begins so
00:30:45that the republic stands, he stressed.
00:30:49Ukraine says it is awaiting details from
00:30:53the conclusion of an energy ceasefire between Kyiv and Moscow, of which
00:30:56Volodimir Zelenski says he was not informed.