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00:00:00America, the event to experience on France 24,
00:00:18your world tour continues at 3:30 p.m. here in Paris, 1:30 p.m. in
00:00:21Dakar, it's time for your African stopover. Today, the start of the school year
00:00:25in Senegal, which had been postponed, and then the health situation around
00:00:28Ebola. Welcome.
00:00:39So, the big day for millions of Senegalese, the bell finally rang this morning, the
00:00:43school year started. It was supposed to start last Wednesday, but due
00:00:47to the floods, the Senegalese authorities preferred to postpone the opening
00:00:51of schools until today. Sarah Saco, we find you live from Dakar, hello
00:00:54to you, how did it go this
00:00:55morning
00:00:59and... Listen, it depends a little bit on the academies, right? So in
00:01:02total, 4 million students were expected in class this
00:01:06morning, and as I speak to you, Julien, it's already time for school to let out, we see
00:01:10little schoolchildren in the street where I am. So I'll give you a few
00:01:13figures, right? According to the Senegalese Ministry of Education,
00:01:16600, more than 600 establishments are still affected by the
00:01:19floods of last week and nearly half of that number
00:01:23are establishments still flooded. So in
00:01:27Dakar, the Dakar academy where I am and where I visited several schools this
00:01:31morning, the start of the school year went rather
00:01:33child protection well. Where we were, in the Sicap Baobab, which is a residential area, there
00:01:36was still a high absenteeism rate and parents explained to us that there were
00:01:40rumors of a postponement of the start of the school year, that some had been
00:01:43discouraged from bringing their children. On the other hand, the situation is much more
00:01:47complicated in the suburbs, right? Pikine, Guediawaye, large suburbs of Dakar,
00:01:50so there are between 20 and 35% of establishments that are still
00:01:54very affected by material damage, about fifty
00:01:57establishments under water, you can imagine that... the start of the school year could not
00:02:02the center take place in the schools I'm telling you about. The Ministry of Education is reassuring
00:02:06and is betting on a return to normal in all establishments by the
00:02:09end of the week. The minister also said that 80% of the teaching
00:02:13staff was at their post, but that did not convince everyone.
00:02:17The Cosideb, which is a civil society organization
00:02:20specialized in public education, well, they regret this
00:02:24staggered start of the school year. They would have preferred a postponed start
00:02:27in certain academies. Especially,
00:02:30they say, as there are still risks of bad weather announced
00:02:34in the coming days, coming weeks. Thank you very much,
00:02:37Sarasako, a quick question. You said that the little Senegalese children
00:02:41are already out, what, it's early
00:02:44afternoon where you are, they don't have classes
00:02:46in the afternoon?
00:02:50No, not necessarily, it depends on the establishments, but in any case, the youngest ones leave at 1 p.m.
00:02:54in general. Well, they're lucky, these Senegalese. Thank you very much, Sarasako, live
00:02:57from Dakar. What is the status of the fight against Ebola 5 months after the
00:03:01return of the epidemic in the Democratic Republic of Congo? The disease
00:03:05is not receding but is moving. As of today, according to official figures,
00:03:098300 cases have been recorded, including more than 4000
00:03:12fatal ones. And last week, a man returning from the DRC died in a
00:03:16hospital in Nairobi,
00:03:18forced to say to ourselves, well, rather than leaving Kenya. Let's welcome our guest,
00:03:21the year, 178,000 Dr. Jean Kaseya, Director General of the Africa Centres for Disease Control and Prevention.
00:03:25Last year, the Stop line received Hello, thank you for being on France 24. 8300
00:03:29cases recorded. Have we reached a plateau or do you think
00:03:32the worst is yet
00:03:33to come?
00:03:36Well, first we must acknowledge that the government
00:03:40is making great
00:03:42last month during efforts, and I was on the ground, I
00:03:45saw it. But we must also say that
00:03:48uh the data shows
00:03:51that we cannot today say that
00:03:55we have mastered this epidemic
00:03:58because for the...
00:04:00that have passed, we saw a plateau, I'm talking on a national
00:04:03level, but this plateau is rather
00:04:06related to the increase of cases in Nord Kivu
00:04:10and a certain decrease of cases in
00:04:13Ituri, but we
00:04:16have also noticed that there are areas that have become silent
00:04:19areas, so they don't, not
00:04:24the Congolese Minister of Health has that it's zero but they don't "the systematic extent of report, so these are as many questions that our
00:04:28teams are currently looking into. For the moment we cannot yet
00:04:32with the management of say that the epidemic is under For Cédric Tena, president of control. Yes,
00:04:35uh what's not working? Uh, is it the contact cases that we
00:04:38can't yet properly trace?
00:04:43four actually received Indeed, the problem of contact cases is there, and I
00:04:46want to say that when we discussed with the president
00:04:50on August 5th, he understood that very well, he gave
00:04:54very clear instructions saying "I want
00:04:57us to implement a village approach." What does that mean? I will
00:05:01put all this together. When you
00:05:05have a confirmed case, you should, on
00:05:08average, have 60 people who are contact cases globally.
00:05:11If there are 8000 confirmed
00:05:15cases already, we expect to have around 48000
00:05:18people on the contact list since the beginning.
00:05:21However, today this is not the case, there
00:05:25are around 10% of that, and that is what
00:05:28explains that new cases generally
00:05:32come from outside the contact lists in the community. More than
00:05:3570% come from the
00:05:38community and the example is this gentleman from
00:05:42Kenya who had to travel from Butembo
00:05:45to Kisangani Beni all the way to be
00:05:49tested only in Kenya
00:05:51and die. So that means this gentleman had
00:05:55an epidemic somewhere, he was not on the contact
00:05:59list and he started traveling. We can still
00:06:02have cases like that, so I think we are going to implement this
00:06:06village approach which will allow us to control who comes
00:06:09where and who will start helping to identify
00:06:13the sick and contact cases. Would you also say that this is proof that confidence on the
00:06:16ground, the confidence of the Congolese, of the people who are
00:06:20likely to get sick, has not been restored? The sick do not trust
00:06:23the authorities or the health
00:06:25authorities?
00:06:27No, I saw that confidence had
00:06:31I went to Butembo the second time. The first time I
00:06:35went, on the 17th of May,
00:06:38two days after the declaration, indeed, confidence was not
00:06:42there. But when I went back to Butembo on August 4th, I
00:06:45saw that more and more people were trusting, more and more people were
00:06:48accepting the disease, but you know, there are always cases
00:06:52of resistance and we see from one corner to another,
00:06:56there are cases of insecurity and so that's what makes it a
00:07:00mix, but we cannot say that the population does not trust the
00:07:03authorities, that's not correct. Hm, so that means that attitudes have evolved,
00:07:07uh let's talk about money because that's
00:07:10also what's at
00:07:15of the fight to push back the epidemic. 3 billion dollars had been
00:07:19promised since mid-May by donors uh since then, do you know
00:07:22how much money has
00:07:26actually been disbursed for the teams on the ground? Is it easy
00:07:29to trace what was then spent on the
00:07:32ground? I am well placed to talk about this
00:07:35because I can say that it is the role that Africa CDC plays in
00:07:38organizing donor meetings.
00:07:42and to mobilize resources, but I want to say one thing, and this is not
00:07:46often said, when the DRC had disbursed
00:07:5050 million dollars, the
00:07:53plan for Ituri, which was the epicenter, represented
00:07:5662 million, so that means that the DRC, by disbursing
00:07:5950 million, already covered more than 80 needs, 80
00:08:03% of Ituri's needs if all that money was paid for the
00:08:07sanitary response, and I also remind you that
00:08:10Uganda stopped the epidemic. by putting more than
00:08:1380-85% of resources from the government, so it was pretty much
00:08:17mutatis mutandis, but then the situation evolved
00:08:21quickly in the DRC, we organized a first meeting on
00:08:24June 16th and this meeting mobilized
00:08:281.2 billion dollars. Out of the 1.2, the donors
00:08:32told us that they had disbursed 700 million and I have the
00:08:35list that I even gave to the government, but the problem is
00:08:39what? It's that the donors gave the money to the partners
00:08:43who never gave the information to the government and the government only knows
00:08:46about 200 million, there's a big gap, there was a
00:08:50meeting recently in New York
00:08:55the United Nations assembly. Now we have risen
00:08:59to about 3 billion dollars
00:09:01and out of these 3 billion, I
00:09:05thank the American government for its support, I thank the European Union and
00:09:08even France. Now we are starting to know where the money is going.
00:09:12Tomorrow, Tuesday, I will be in Kinshasa, I will speak with the
00:09:16Congolese authorities, I will show them where the money is so that
00:09:19we can all track this money. Governments must know what the
00:09:23partners are doing with the money. Yes, because there are accusations of corruption on the ground, there is an NGO that is a
00:09:27member of the coalition of associations, Congo Is Not For Sale, which reports, I quote,
00:09:33corruption in the humanitarian response." And even
00:09:36acknowledged manipulation, cheating
00:09:39on the spot as well. Do you confirm that there is indeed a problem
00:09:44money?
00:09:48What I know is that the minister told me
00:09:50that indeed it is at the country
00:09:53level that people come to add themselves to the lists and
00:09:57these are attitudes that we see in many countries where there are
00:10:01epidemics, but I am not aware of what this NGO, I think there should
00:10:05be investigations and we say that the money for the
00:10:08response, we must be
00:10:11transparent. And we must show that every
00:10:14dollar is invested for the good of the population.
00:10:18So I will talk about it tomorrow with the Congolese
00:10:21authorities. Jean Kaseya, a last question on the
00:10:24response. Now medical, because last May
00:10:27you called for the development of local production of African vaccines. Has
00:10:31uh your call been heard? Are there any
00:10:35advances on this issue? There
00:10:38have been many advances, I will tell you, uh, we
00:10:41take our commitments very seriously, we had
00:10:44said there would be vaccines, currently, Africa CDC is heavily
00:10:48supporting countries to have vaccines, we are conducting
00:10:52compassionate vaccinations in some
00:10:56areas, we are conducting phase 3 clinical trials in
00:10:59others, but also for vaccine production, there is even an
00:11:02Egyptian company that is currently
00:11:06conducting clinical trials for the production of a vaccine that
00:11:10they themselves are developing, against the strain in
00:11:13question, against the strain in question, against it against the strain in question,
00:11:17yes against it, there is the company, I will give you the name, it's called
00:11:20Minapharm in Egypt and I had the... with their
00:11:24CEO, my team
00:11:27visited, my team is even in Egypt currently, and so
00:11:30Minapharm with the support of CPI, the
00:11:33support of other partners is developing
00:11:37the vaccine against Butembo Bundibugyo. Thank you very much
00:11:40for this information, Jean Kaseya, Director General of the Africa Centres for Disease Control and
00:11:44Prevention. Chad, for its part, is seeking
00:11:46a response. The country summoned the Ambassador of the Central African Republic
00:11:50on Sunday. N'Djamena protests against an incursion by the Central
00:11:53African army into its territory on Saturday. Bangui does not
00:11:56confirm, gives no information to this effect. Uh, the Central
00:12:00African authorities simply confirm having neutralized a security
00:12:03threat planned by groups of foreign mercenaries without giving more
00:12:07details. In Ethiopia now, the army continues its
00:12:11advance in Tigray. It entered without resistance a new town in the
00:12:14region, Adwa, pushing the Tigrayan rebels towards the
00:12:18border with Eritrea. A very unstable situation that raises fears
00:12:21of an open war between the two countries, Ethiopia and
00:12:25Eritrea. The return of war in Ethiopia is pushing thousands of
00:12:28people to flee to Djibouti, some of whom
00:12:31are embarking on makeshift boats for the Yemeni peninsula, also at
00:12:35war. Last weekend, at least 139 migrants perished off the coast of
00:12:38Djibouti. Alice Broga with Morganer.
00:12:42The sea has washed up a dozen bodies on this Djibouti beach
00:12:46north of Obock. The day before, a boat carrying
00:12:50305 migrants capsized off the coast as it was
00:12:53heading towards Yemen to the east. According to local
00:12:56authorities, it is one of the deadliest shipwrecks ever
00:13:00recorded. About 82 people survived
00:13:03and dozens are still missing. On board were
00:13:07women, men, but also children. So the IOM
00:13:10is with the local authorities, especially the prefecture
00:13:13of Obock, which coordinates operations on site. So the
00:13:17first survivors encountered were taken care of by the IOM. Despite the
00:13:21war raging in Yemen, many migrants attempted to reach this
00:13:25country, hoping then to continue their journey towards the rich
00:13:28Gulf countries. According to the International Organization for
00:13:31Migration, the majority were from Ethiopia.
00:13:34One of the survivors declared coming from the Tigray region in the north of the country
00:13:38where fighting resumed last month between government
00:13:42forces and rebel groups. Since the beginning of
00:13:46people have arrived in Djibouti from Ethiopia, fleeing difficult
00:13:49living conditions. The IOM calls for strengthening
00:13:53their protection, "we can no longer tolerate these
00:13:57deaths, safe and legal pathways save
00:14:01lives, I call on governments and donors to
00:14:03act before another shipwreck occurs."
00:14:07This migratory route, one of the most dangerous in the world, is also taken
00:14:11in the other direction. More than 3700 people fleeing
00:14:14Yemen had embarked for Djibouti until last
00:14:17week.
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00:15:49of prevention, botched investigations, interminable
00:15:52procedures. Faced with these judicial failures, some
00:15:56citizens decide to track down pedocriminals themselves. I can't
00:16:00imagine them harming kids, I'd rather
00:16:03receive a ton of crap than
00:16:06have kids be safe. A new
00:16:10so-called integral law aims to better protect victims,
00:16:13160,000 children every year, but no
00:16:16measure concerns the perpetrators. We don't
00:16:19choose our fantasies or our sexual excitations, but we
00:16:23do choose what we do with them.
00:16:34I am a member of the association Les Enfants d'Argus. We protect
00:16:38children on social networks from malicious people towards
00:16:41minors under 15 years old. He calls himself
00:16:45Punisher, an ordinary citizen by
00:16:48day, cyber vigilante by night. On his
00:16:52wall, he tallies the individuals he has tracked
00:16:56online, over 200 in 6 years. It can
00:16:59be your neighbor, it can be your boss, it can be a
00:17:03cousin, there's no typical profile, there's no typical region, it's everywhere.
00:17:07Punisher creates fake child profiles like this one
00:17:11on social networks, no incitement, no physical
00:17:14contact, he simply consults messages at the same
00:17:17hours as high school students, this day, in just half
00:17:21an hour, he receives a dozen
00:17:23messages, "I'm having fun looking at your photo, you're
00:17:27so hot, do you want to see what I do, wait, I'm making a
00:17:31video," there it's a video of him masturbating, and
00:17:35that's what we receive every day. Now it's fine because
00:17:38he's talking to me, but I put myself in the shoes of a 12-year-old
00:17:41girl who receives this kind of atrocity
00:17:44under threat, under duress, he clearly
00:17:47says there, "with my friends, we killed two girls who refused to send me a naked
00:17:50photo of themselves,"
00:17:52thanks to this evidence, he
00:17:56compiles a file with detectives and lawyers, all
00:18:00volunteers,
00:18:06they then transmit it... to the authorities, but
00:18:09first, they have to find the identity of the suspects who
00:18:13hide behind pseudonyms and increasingly
00:18:16artificial
00:18:17intelligence.
00:18:22send me another one, it will stay between you and me, I promise. Yes, so you wanted me to
00:18:26prove I'm real, but I don't know what else
00:18:28to do, besides making a video of my whole
00:18:32body. Fake identities generated by this
00:18:35AI expert on Instagram. She encourages young people to
00:18:38be careful: with the new artificial intelligence models, it has never
00:18:42been so easy and credible to assume the face of a teenager and
00:18:45a child, the rule in 2026, it's simple, it's to no longer believe
00:18:49anything we see online, at the slightest doubt we send nothing so that we cannot be
00:18:53blackmailed. In the Paris region, the juvenile
00:18:56office, a service from the judicial police, trains
00:18:59agents to deal with the most serious cases,
00:19:03notably child pornography videos streaming worldwide.
00:19:08Offmine was created 3 years ago for an almost
00:19:11impossible mission. We received in
00:19:142025 about 200,000 reports.
00:19:18This means concretely that we have to process, to
00:19:22analyze, to prioritize about
00:19:24500 reports per day. And how many are you at Lofn?
00:19:28We are almost sixty.
00:19:31Lack of investigators, equipment and technological tools.
00:19:35This is to compensate for these shortcomings that Punisher.
00:19:5780% of the pedocriminals that these
00:20:00hunters get convicted are
00:20:02recidivists.
00:20:06the association, justice is too lenient. Last
00:20:09year there were about 60 to 70 trials that all
00:20:13resulted in convictions, unfortunately, I think
00:20:16that only three or
00:20:20firm prison sentences where they
00:20:23actually went to prison, I don't know how that's explained, I'm just
00:20:27disgusted, I want to believe that the damage that sexual aggressors can do to
00:20:30children is not taken into consideration. One
00:20:34of the explanations is that a judge can propose to a victim
00:20:37of rape, to have their case heard before a correctional tribunal and
00:20:41not before a criminal court. The stakes are not
00:20:44the same. Before a criminal court, rape can be punished
00:20:48by 20 years in prison.
00:20:50But in correctional court, rape is judged as a misdemeanor, a
00:20:53sexual assault rather than a
00:20:55crime. The victim feels
00:20:59these proposals as a minimization of what she has
00:21:03experienced. So often it is presented as a
00:21:06way to have a trial more quickly. In reality, it is not necessarily
00:21:09the case, and I must say that the victim should not suffer in
00:21:13reality from the slowness of justice and should not in
00:21:16reality experience a pseudo-trial.
00:21:20Some pedophiles slip through the cracks despite numerous
00:21:24reports. This is the case of the alleged perpetrator of
00:21:27the rape and murder of Lyanna, 11, last
00:21:30May. Jérôme Barrella had been the subject
00:21:34of several complaints, but had never been arrested,
00:21:38a case that further motivates cyber-vigilantes
00:21:41like Punisher. I do this because I don't accept that one can
00:21:45have sexual inclinations for children. In
00:21:49my family, I or my little niece had problems like
00:21:53this with an adult, except that it was the word of a child against an
00:21:56adult, and this person ultimately never had any trouble with the law, and
00:22:00other children were also affected by his
00:22:02actions.
00:22:07To these citizens who are committed, we indeed need
00:22:10motivated people, sensitized to these
00:22:13issues, to join the police and gendarmerie forces to
00:22:16investigate within a legal framework, and if that is not
00:22:20possible, to join
00:22:23associations.
00:22:27Better protecting victims also involves prevention
00:22:30and treatment. The Scouts
00:22:33of France are asking us to
00:22:36build a workshop around minor
00:22:39perpetrators. For 20 years, the CRIF
00:22:42teams have been researching, documenting, and training
00:22:45professionals on the care of aggressors. And
00:22:50far from common misconceptions, a pedocriminal is not
00:22:54necessarily a pedophile. The
00:22:57vast majority of people who act on minors do not
00:23:00have pedophilic attraction, and we will be either in great
00:23:04immaturity, or a control, an aggression, a
00:23:07notion of power and domination, because a minor is
00:23:11more vulnerable because a minor needs attention and affection from an
00:23:15adult. According to some experts, only
00:23:1940% of pedophiles would suffer from pedophilic
00:23:22disorder.
00:23:25Stop device hello, you know that this
00:23:28line is a line for people who are sexually attracted to
00:23:32children, is that your case? Little
00:23:36known, this telephone line was nevertheless created
00:23:395 years ago to do prevention. Has there
00:23:43already been a physical act? Their
00:23:46team gathers the first information from callers,
00:23:48mostly men:
00:23:52pedophilia is a disease, it can indeed be very complicated to
00:23:56hear, but some people who are caught up in these
00:23:59fantasies did not choose it, without wanting
00:24:03to condone what these people experience, we are
00:24:08them alone, we must be able to talk about it with them so that this
00:24:11fantasy remains a fantasy.
00:24:15more than 4,500 calls across France,
00:24:19it's a 41-year-old man who has no children, it's the first
00:24:23time he's called the device, a figure that has tripled since its
00:24:27beginnings, but the device has its limits, once the
00:24:30conversation is over, the caller has no obligation to
00:24:34seek treatment, in another unit,
00:24:38Matthias Poiteau only receives patients sentenced or
00:24:42facing prosecution.
00:24:45I committed a sexual assault on my daughter several
00:24:47years ago and... and the moment she revealed the
00:24:51facts, that's when I decided to start psychological
00:24:54and psychiatric
00:24:56treatment, by the way.
00:24:59Last year, this father decided to call the stop line
00:25:02to prevent a relapse.
00:25:06This attraction to children, young girls and little girls
00:25:10in this case, dates back to my adolescence. I have quite
00:25:14precise memories of this kind
00:25:15of attraction,
00:25:19and I... My great guilt,
00:25:22is, well, beyond what I did, it's not having taken
00:25:26the measure of the gravity of it, the
00:25:29danger it represented, in any case,
00:25:33and I think that if I had been able to talk
00:25:37about it and face things, before
00:25:40acting, I
00:25:44might not have acted at
00:25:45all.
00:25:48Sentenced to 2 years, with probation and obligation of
00:25:52psychiatric treatment for 4 years, he says he wants to
00:25:55continue treatment even after.
00:25:58It helps me to reflect on the acts I
00:26:01committed. Not to
00:26:03repeat them. I would perhaps one
00:26:06day give these
00:26:09explanations or beginnings of explanations to my
00:26:12daughter. I saw the consequences on
00:26:15her, she will carry them all her
00:26:17life.
00:26:20If one day I have to tell her something, it
00:26:24will be up to her to decide if she wants to hear
00:26:27anything from me.
00:26:30There, I have nothing to impose on her.
00:26:34To the great regret of the psychologist, the comprehensive
00:26:36law does not provide for any prevention measures targeting
00:26:40perpetrators of sexual
00:26:41violence.
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