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00:01:21Good evening, welcome. Yes, it's me, I'm
00:01:23of nat aqueer. I'm in for Alex Armstrong tonight. Have you got
00:01:27any words for Andy Burnham? Yeah, the early release going is
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00:01:33of tagging is better than prison, this place ain't no
00:01:38of a good, labor's early release scheme is off to rocking
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00:03:46a of top stories, Donald Trump says he thinks it's time for Ukraine to get new president, as he
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00:05:08pro-palestine protest in London earlier today with activists accused of damaging
00:05:12a... memorial. Demonstrators gathered on the embankment and marched to
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00:05:37reporter Charlie peters was there. Did you support Hezballah
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00:06:58Labor's early release scheme is an absolute joke. A
00:07:02prisoner walks out of HMP Wandsworth on the 1st of October,
00:07:06part the first wave of criminals, labor has set free and
00:07:10is obviously a fan the scheme. Have you got any words for
00:07:13Andy Burnham? Yeah, keep the early release going, it's
00:07:16good. GPS tagging is better than
00:07:20prison.
00:07:2517. What did you still soap
00:07:27detergent? This is Michael
00:07:31Bogel, registered sex offender, released
00:07:35early, clearly delighted with his new taste of freedom,
00:07:39so delighted in fact that the very next day he's captured. on
00:07:42CCTV going a shoplifting spree.
00:07:46In just four days after walking free, this man steals more
00:07:50than 100 pounds worth of detergent from supermarkets in North
00:07:54London. He's been arrested and is now back behind
00:07:57bars. In the same overcrowded presence, this whole scheme was
00:08:01supposed to relieve. This criminal has made a complete mockery
00:08:05the policy. Victims of crime have been calling for it to be
00:08:09scrapped, and can you blame them? The probation service. simply
00:08:12cannot cope. Officers in London are dealing with more than
00:08:16hundred breaches of electronic tagging orders every single
00:08:19day. Britain's most senior police officer, Sir Mark Roley has
00:08:23revealed that his officers are having to arrest two or three offenders
00:08:27a week. Who were only recently freeed under this early
00:08:31release scheme. We're arresting to two or three early release offenders a
00:08:35week who are being recall to prison or doing further offending.
00:08:38That's since the start of August we've been capturing that data
00:08:41um... 'we're getting increasing numbers of tag breaches that to enforce
00:08:45the provation are sending to us, um, I think it's
00:08:49now uh, it's now over hundred tag breaches a day in London,
00:08:53we're being sent, over 100 a day, yeah, yep, you heard that
00:08:57correct, 100 tag breaches a day, and top of this probation
00:09:01officers are now set to vote on strike action over workloads
00:09:04and pay, these are the very people supposed to supervise the thousands
00:09:08of prisoners that labor is releasing into our communities'. and the
00:09:12British public overwhelmingly agree too. u poll found
00:09:16that 64% of brits oppose the government's early release
00:09:20scheme, while 78% agree with releasing foreign nationals
00:09:24early so they can be deported. this government is playing
00:09:28fast and loose with public safety. they're empting the prisons and overloading the
00:09:31probation service. it's shambolic and it's
00:09:34reckless. all right, let's get the thoughts of my panel journalist and
00:09:38broadcaster linda dubely, reform UK andrew Rossendall.
00:09:42and former labor counselor Sebastian Salic. All right, I think I must
00:09:46start with you, Sebastian Salic, because this early release scheme uh is labor
00:09:50policy.
00:09:50I know the conservatives did uh something similar a while back, but
00:09:54labor have done it twice now since that the kis Darma
00:09:58initially and now Andy Burnham. Yeah, I mean the
00:10:01unfortunate reality is they have other choice. The prisoners are 99%
00:10:05full uh, if they become full, you then can't send people to prison who are
00:10:09committing serious, serious offenses, so it's not an ideal situation, but... we find
00:10:12it. What I find fascinating is that you look at countries like the Netherlands and they're closing down their
00:10:16prisons and so we have a bigger conversation to have about the level at which
00:10:20we're banging people out for life uh and whether that's really effective and as
00:10:24we've seen from intro, I don't think it is, well, well, the ones who they're letting out
00:10:28shouldn't really be let out because they're just carrying on stealing or doing whatever it is, once once they've
00:10:32been let out and go back, but the problem here is that the labor government have
00:10:36been in for two years now, over two years right, so we want to see something
00:10:40happening, but not this, could they not have done something else? well, they've
00:10:44built 3,00 prison places, the reality is that prisons take quite a while to build, so there's only so
00:10:47much you can do in two years, um, what I really want to see is focus on rehabilitation, uh, we
00:10:51don't think enough about the underlying issues that lead. people to commit
00:10:55these kinds of crimes, if you can tackle those issues, you get them back on the straight and narrow and they don't
00:10:59reoffend, that is the crucial issue, that reoffending rate needs to come down. Andrew
00:11:03Rosssendale, it was your lot, although you're not with them anymore who put us in
00:11:07this mess because they didn't build any prisons uh really in the
00:11:1114 years they were there, in fact they shipted things around, they didn't really do anything at all, there were no new
00:11:15prison places really were there, i think there was 500 or something, something like that,
00:11:18yes look, the conservatives failed completely not just on this but
00:11:22a whole range of issues, they left the count a
00:11:26very poor state and that's why they went down to the worst defeat in their
00:11:29history in 2024, but our labor any better,
00:11:33absolutely not, they are a thousand times worse than the
00:11:37conservatives, what they are doing is putting the british people at
00:11:40risk, they're saying
00:11:42that you go to prison but you get out very quickly, you then commit further
00:11:46crimes, the public are not safe because of it,
00:11:50no deterents, actually the whole thing is a catastrophe,
00:11:53what we need is serious imposition of law and order back in this
00:11:57country again, we need foreign criminals out, they need to be
00:12:01sent to their own countries to serve their sentence or to a third
00:12:05country if they won't take them back, and we need to
00:12:08urgently build more prison places, and it doesn't take as
00:12:12long as Sebastian is saying, there are ways of building fast,
00:12:15secure accommodation, using every possible means to keep these
00:12:19people under lock and key, which is exactly where they should
00:12:23remain. Yeah, we all agree. that,
00:12:26but you know, it's, I do, I don't even want to protect the labor government because they're doing a very bad job in my
00:12:30view, but this was really legacy that they then had to deal with,
00:12:34because the previous government did, well, sweet, I won't
00:12:37say, yeah, so I think Andrew's right there
00:12:41about prison building needing doesn't need to take as
00:12:44long as that, if we got Nightingale hospitals up in
00:12:48pretty swiftly, um, just before the COVID crisis hit,
00:12:52I think we can probably get prison buildings put up. "I suspect the hold up
00:12:56maybe our planning law, which that does need reforming,
00:13:00if that was eased, I think you could build more quickly, but Sebastian
00:13:04hit a really important point when he said that in the Netherlands, they
00:13:08had much lower rate of imprisoning people, but you mentioned
00:13:11banging people up for life, now that's not what's happening in the Netherlands, there's
00:13:15no, the the problem isn't banging up people for life for very serious
00:13:19crimes like murder, it's putting people inside jail for
00:13:22minor crimes, but don't need a custom."
00:13:24fairly
00:13:31or unfairly for three years depending on your viewpoint,
00:13:35yep, but she met lot of particularly women inside, well
00:13:39on only women prisoners really, um, explained that they
00:13:43were serving time when actually their crimes did not
00:13:46deserve custodial punishment, and if we could solve
00:13:50that, we would help matters. now building prisons, it it's
00:13:54not
00:13:54long term. but it's not short term, so something has to happen now
00:13:58ease the situation in the very short term, and I
00:14:02think what needs to happen is the exclusion zones need to be properly
00:14:06enforced, and the tagging system, which is not currently working
00:14:09properly, needs to be rolled out very
00:14:13efficiently, and what surprised me this week
00:14:16was, supposedly senior civil
00:14:19servant criticized ministers and which is unheard of,
00:14:23for a civil servant to go on the... radio and criticize a minister
00:14:27for putting unfair targets on, really surprised me,
00:14:31but actually he was right, ministers should stop talking about
00:14:35targets that cannot be reached and we need to start being real
00:14:39about what can be achieved in what is serious situation which
00:14:43won't go away just because we're talking about it, well i'm i'm a fan of
00:14:46some targets at least, not not targets for waiting list so because
00:14:50sadly they just sort of move the goal post, but
00:14:54you've got loads of foreign. why can't you just get rid of those? although I did see that they
00:14:57weren't able to get rid of a Pakistani grooming gang uh leader
00:15:01because Pakistan wouldn't taken back even though they tried to make him stateless and that didn't work out either well one
00:15:05the problems is that decent chunk them are on remand so they they're waiting to be
00:15:09sentenced and you can't just deport somebody who is who is
00:15:13still within the process um it would be it would be unjust so it's one of
00:15:16those uh solutions that sounds very seductive to certain people I imagine there will be viewers
00:15:20at home wooping at the idea but when you apply that to reality let's
00:15:24forget. because some them, well then you have only few thousand
00:15:28people that's a very small population, that's a start, yeah, but then you're
00:15:31sending people to countries where those sentences may not be inforced, and it shouldn't be
00:15:35fair,
00:15:36it isn't fair that if you for... 'example rape someone in the UK, get deported and don't
00:15:40face the sentence and just get on with your life, um, I think that that is very, very
00:15:44unfair on the victims, well, I think what would be fair
00:15:46on the victim is the fact that you are actually deported, so I'd have them deported and then their country
00:15:50can deal with them accordingly, but what if dealing with them accordingly means letting
00:15:53them go free, that feels very unfair, that's kind of what happens in this country anyway, you
00:15:57literally have three months and then you're out, so if no, that's not true, the minimum sentence
00:16:01for
00:16:02rate is not the months, but many them don't even serve that as
00:16:06we well know, they don't'. serve the full sentences, they serve very little the sentence,
00:16:10and in fact in the early release scheme, even if you've been given sentence, you can then end up being
00:16:14released even earlier, so remember part the early release scene, that's
00:16:18really important, exactly, so if it were me, exactly, so the sentence is even shorter, no, no, no,
00:16:21it's it's longer cuz they're not being released, they're not part the scheme, well there was some, i'm sure there
00:16:25were some sex, serious is not part the
00:16:29you, you've added the word serious, okay, well let's get the right word, get the right
00:16:33word, shall we, cuz that guy, i think he was also sex offender and he was
00:16:38well um, let me get you the wording, um, hang on,
00:16:42rape, serious child sex and grooming offenses are barred from this, no serious
00:16:45offenders should be lead out early, they should all be there until the end their
00:16:49sentence, this culture that's involved in this country
00:16:53whereby you get sent to prison for so many years and
00:16:57then you finish up getting out half your sentence, just
00:17:00simply not acceptable, the public do not understand this, it's not
00:17:04acceptable, it's taking away the deterents and I blame all
00:17:08governments who have been extremely liberal on this for many years, I'm not against
00:17:11rehabilitation, but I do believe the punishment
00:17:15should be there and people should pay a price, they should lose their
00:17:19freedom for vial crime against innocent human being, well what would reform do
00:17:23given the situation, imagine prison overcrowding, you're in charge, what would you do, well we're going to
00:17:26build more prison places very quickly, there are ways of doing it, there
00:17:30are I can't exactly out, but I can tell you now that it's not going to
00:17:34take years, you you can improvise, there are methods. faster than labor
00:17:38is well, i don't think labor is very committed to this to be honest, but how would reform build them
00:17:42faster than labor? well, how fast are labor building? well, they've built 3,00 places so far roughly, how'd reform
00:17:46build them more quickly, in two years, they've built 3,00 places after, yeah, no,
00:17:49look, we believe that there are other methods which can
00:17:53be employed, prefabricated prisons for instance, which are
00:17:57not necessarily brick-built ones that can be put up very
00:18:01quickly, so there are ways of doing it, well how would you get the staff there, because the
00:18:05problem, one the other issues is that nobody really wants. to work in the
00:18:08prisons, they're struggling with staff, so be great to have all these people
00:18:11even with the labor proposition, you're going to say you're going to have more prisons, where there's a
00:18:15political will, there's a solution, at the moment there's no political will, because the current
00:18:19government is committed to this policy, they actually are very soft on crime
00:18:23anyway, they think letting prisoners out early is probably a good
00:18:27thing, so they're no, they're not really committed to solving it, there
00:18:31are hang on, your answer is to build prisons as pre-fat, prisons by
00:18:34definition have to be hard to escape, of course they are, of course the... no one suggesting they're not
00:18:38going to be the people can escape from them, there are
00:18:42ways, there are ways of building prisons
00:18:45like what faster, i'm
00:18:46not a
00:18:46developer,
00:18:52no you're saying that we have to wait three years, i'm saying that
00:18:56with political will, using modern technology and
00:19:00different different methods, there are ways, there are ways of
00:19:03doing this dismissing it without
00:19:05even one second, one second, he's not, he's not
00:19:09a builder, so he's not, no, but you're representative
00:19:11of a party, you're saying
00:19:12you're going to do something and I'm asking you how and I need answer, so if you're asking for the action my new
00:19:16show as how he's going to build them, then that's I think why why are you defending another
00:19:19panelist, I'm not defending, well
00:19:21you are, can I can I finish? okay, just to be clear about notable
00:19:25individual case of somebody who was sex offender that was released under the early release scheme,
00:19:29guy called Michael Bogel, which I just actually mentioned in my
00:19:33niggle uh in my monologue sorry, he's a 30 year old registered
00:19:37sex. with a history of over 100 alleged defenses, he was released from
00:19:40HMP Wandsworth, which is what I said on the 1st of October 2026,
00:19:44but then was rearrested, so he was released, yes, so let me repeat what I
00:19:48said, rape, serious child sex and grooming offenses are barred from sentencing charges, so
00:19:52registered sex offender, yes, and the registered sex offender is not necessarily
00:19:56rapist, there are many, many categories of sexual offense that don't
00:20:00come under, but they shouldn't be released
00:20:01out, yes, but that's a separate discussion, you see how what we're saying is not contradictory, I
00:20:05said, yes, so I said sex offender, that's good. Yes, exactly, and I'm not, I'm telling you something
00:20:09different here. Yeah, well, I'm just letting
00:20:11you know that there was, well, you said
00:20:12it at the top the show, I heard you the first time, just remind you, so so just come back on this, uh,
00:20:16I've just checked it, modular construction, there are ways of doing this, and reform UK have
00:20:20looked into this, we can achieve this, using helping getting the
00:20:24military also to help us do this, so we should use every
00:20:27possible means, and I'm telling you, Sebastian, what's missing is political
00:20:31will, you haven't got a government that's determined to deal with this, you got a government that will make
00:20:35excuses, we need a government. going to put the safety
00:20:38the government and that's already built 300 places so they're cracking on with it and you're
00:20:42saying political will which is very fluffy
00:20:44concept.
00:20:50excuse me, excuse me, excuse me, hello, when I'm talking, you don't talk
00:20:53either of you, as for defending another panelist, I will defend or defend
00:20:57whoever to balance an argument, that's my job, but don't tell me how to do it,
00:21:01okay, well don't tell me who I should shouldn't, I didn't tell you
00:21:04anything, yeah you did, you said, why are you defending another panelist,
00:21:08because I can do both sides, I do both sides, somebody said something
00:21:12that I didn't think was right, on your side I would defend you as it were,
00:21:16absolutely, okay, how have you defended me in this panel so far, yeah, well I don't need to, what?
00:21:20what have you said that needs defending? i don't, what do you think? well, nothing. well, if you want balance you should defend both
00:21:24sides. well no, because you haven't say anything that needs defending. okay, unless unless if you said something is
00:21:28unfair then i will come back. that's right. i'm glad you think i have a spotless record so
00:21:32far. well, you haven't
00:21:33said anything that need to defender. brilliant, that's great to hear. that doesn't mean you've got a spotless record. you haven't said anything
00:21:37that needs defending. if there is something special then i'll do that. brilliant. look forward to it. that's
00:21:41great. so do i right? the government spokes person said we inherited a
00:21:44prison system on the brink of collapse. if we had failed to act, the police
00:21:48would have been forced to. pulled, putting communities at untold
00:21:52risk, probation staff and police do visual, vital job
00:21:56to protect the public, that is why we secured the biggest probation increase
00:22:00in over decade in April, with the latest offer, increasing
00:22:04that by a minimum of 5%, and we are putting thousands more neighborhood police
00:22:08officers onto our streets, uping police funding to £18.5
00:22:11billion pounds. We are recruiting 1,300 probation
00:22:15officers this year to cut workloads and our record, 700
00:22:19million. investment is going is giving staff the resources,
00:22:23powers and technology they need to manage those under
00:22:26supervision top of record number of offenders being
00:22:29tagged, i'm exhausted right, time for the great finish giveaway,
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00:24:11right coming up thousands of pro- palestine protesters march through london
00:24:15days after the third anniversary of October the 7th attacks
00:24:19but now and we'll make sure that people are able
00:24:22to to watch it, that it's public uh, because people need to understand
00:24:26that this is a the serious consequences for these types of things.
00:24:30should the us live stream the execution of a former army
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00:27:52welcome back to Alex Armstrong tonight with me Nanna Aqueer. now the
00:27:55Pentagon is planning to broadcast a convicted mass murderer's
00:27:59execution live to the world. Nedal has who
00:28:03killed 13 people at Fort Hood in
00:28:052009,
00:28:07is scheduled to face firing squad at the same Texas base on
00:28:11December
00:28:12the 3rd. Defense Secretary Pete Hexes said that the public needs
00:28:16to see that there are serious consequences. Army major
00:28:20betrays his country, radical Islamist, kills a bunch of Americans at Fort Hood. Of
00:28:23course we're going to do it at Fort Hood. We're going to do it a Thursday. We're going to do
00:28:26it at one o'clock, which is when he did it,
00:28:28and it's going to be soldiers with rifles executing the firing squad and...
00:28:32we'll make sure that people are able to to watch it, that it's public uh,
00:28:36because people need to understand that this is a there's serious consequences
00:28:40for these types of things. so should the world be allowed to watch or
00:28:44would America be turning punishment into a spectacle? we're now
00:28:48joined by spokesman for young voice UK Ted Newson and director of
00:28:51Public Affairs at the Adam Smith Institute, Max Marlo. All
00:28:55right, Ted, I will start with you. What do you
00:28:58think? Well, I think ultimately this is supposed to... act
00:29:02as a deterrent and uh broadcasting it gets it more
00:29:06coverage, so I mean you can call it a publicity stunt if you want, you can call it
00:29:10whatever, ultimately this is something that is going to get the
00:29:13execution a bit more coverage, and uh
00:29:17look, ultimately this is a way of showing people that what you
00:29:21do, turning your gun on your own men is absolutely
00:29:25unacceptable in the army, it's the worst possible thing you can
00:29:28do, it's disloyalty the highest regard and for that he just...
00:29:32to face firing squad, yeah, and given that he executed people
00:29:36with the weapon, um, I can't say a problem with that, Max Mary,
00:29:40what do you think? I think it's strange
00:29:44from, the secretary of
00:29:45War Hegsith, because he's
00:29:45a very devout Christian, and from that clip you just played, he seems to be quite happy
00:29:49about this, um, it says in Proverbs 24:17 that, you
00:29:53should not rejoice when when thine enemy is fallen, says
00:29:57in Ezekiel 33:11, God takes no pleasure in the death the
00:30:00wicked, and it just seems to me, an undermining, I think of
00:30:04American justice really, I mean, the Americans stopped public
00:30:08executions over 50 years ago, of course, I
00:30:10mean even just looking back to you, when we stopped our
00:30:14own public executions, 150 years ago, there
00:30:17was royal commission about it, Charles Dickens wrote about it, Thackary wrote about
00:30:21it, the reason we stopped doing them is because it it essentially
00:30:24degrades public morality and it degrades our sense of
00:30:28justice, and reading those those tracks from over 150.
00:30:32ago, it's a similar argument be made now, which is that up
00:30:36upstanding liberal countries don't publicly execute people, Saudi
00:30:40Arabia, just stop doing it, actually,
00:30:41you know, um, Afghanistan, the Taliban do it, um,
00:30:45you know, Iran does it, North Korea does it, Arabia has just
00:30:49stopped, it's really not good to be honest,
00:30:52comparing us to some the Arab states, some the other stuff that goes down
00:30:55there, you wouldn't really want to be comparing yourself with them,
00:30:59so I'll probably leave it there, but look, why, why? Why do
00:31:03you say it degrades the sense of justice? some people would say that it gives a sense of
00:31:06justice, and as for peath being a
00:31:09christian, well, you take the bits that you want from the
00:31:13religion that you subscribe? not everyone follows everything from that
00:31:16religion and actually in in Christianity there are
00:31:20you know the crucifictions for god sake do what i mean
00:31:23yeah the whole thing with the crucifictions and of course this the stoning
00:31:27of of Saul for example which is no I think this is the
00:31:31fundamental problem
00:31:31we we're facing here which is it's publicity right and
00:31:34you know the reason why this terrorist I won't dignify him with a
00:31:37name him is because he wanted to be a martter and he's on record
00:31:41as saying that previously this is exactly what Marters wants,
00:31:45they want to be shown,
00:31:47you know, to be killed for doing what they've done, I mean, I
00:31:50mean, this is the main problem, this is why I find this, really quite sickening
00:31:54to be honest, because this is giving
00:31:56the terrorist what they want, would you be all right with it then if they just didn't live stream
00:31:59it, yeah, absolutely, that'd be fine, okay, yeah,
00:32:03he'd be
00:32:04all right with that without
00:32:04the live stream, I mean, what do you think then uh, Ted, do you think that perhaps the
00:32:08execution could go ahead, but they should reconsider the lifestame, seeing
00:32:12as given the
00:32:13point that Max made about being a maro. you're kind of giving this this person what
00:32:17they want? well, I think ultimately, now uh,
00:32:20transparency is key, and you don't have to look very far
00:32:24to see that the US has got uh, they've essentially got away with some
00:32:28horrible stuff in the past, I mean you, you've got Guantanamo just
00:32:31few years ago that they they were torturing prisoners and ultimately there
00:32:35was zero scrutiny there because the public had no idea, now
00:32:39ultimately showing the public exactly how the person is
00:32:43executed, and we 'we can't forget that this person was shot
00:32:47at uh as he killed 13 people as he injured 32
00:32:50more, he could have been killed at the scene by firing squad
00:32:54of swords, ultimately it's repeated that he committed his crime
00:32:58in 2009 and as far as i see it, this has been 17
00:33:02years in the making, but guess with the live stream
00:33:06some people say that if you when you see something like that in real
00:33:10life that that can leave a sort of
00:33:12psychological issue with you'. having seen somebody being
00:33:16executed by firing squad, max, not max,
00:33:19Ted. Well, I totally agree that it should be
00:33:23- it should of course have kind of child lock on, it
00:33:26should be only accessible to adults who want to watch
00:33:30it, I mean bringing it back to our own country, I'm sure there's
00:33:34stadiums worth of people who would want to watch say the execution of Axel
00:33:38Rudicabana, this is someone in our country, and because we don't have the death
00:33:41penalty, this is someone who we expect to cost. like
00:33:4515 million pounds the course of his life sentence, well
00:33:49some people really something we
00:33:50want, well some people
00:33:51agg that it's actually more expensive to - execute them, but I think that would be a
00:33:55good cost uh, because cost isn't always measured by money, it's
00:33:59cost of society, he's gone, that's what we'd like to see, all right, Max Marlow
00:34:03and Ted Newson, thank you very much, all right, coming up, nearly
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00:34:15go, but next, are you anti-zionist or a pro zionist? I'm a
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00:34:22so it's okay, then I can't talk to you, my dear, because I don't talk to zionist, I'm
00:34:25sorry. Thousands of pro- palestine protesters march through London days
00:34:29after the third anniversary of October the 7th attacks. Our reporter Charlie
00:34:33peters was there and will share all. This is Alex
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00:38:44National Reporter Charlie has been in central London today where thousands of
00:38:47pro-palestine protesters gathered, he sent us this
00:38:51report, well behind me is the Pro Palestine
00:38:54demonstration today, around 10,00 people have marched and
00:38:58they're now gathering behind the senator, you see the Palestinian
00:39:02flag, beside the flags the British armed forces and the glorious
00:39:06dead. behind me there's a stage where there have been several speeches made by
00:39:10activists, including Jeremy Corbin, the former leader the labor party
00:39:14and other pro-palestinian protesters. there are
00:39:18more thousands of people behind me in fact, and we've also seen the flags
00:39:21the Islamic Republic of Iran, that regime being waved by the
00:39:25protesters here, well earlier today, inside the protest, as
00:39:29it marched past the counter demonstrators, we did see several people
00:39:33being arrested, the Metropolitan police which put in strict conditions for this
00:39:37march, said it had arrested some people for
00:39:40displaying signs in support of a prescribed
00:39:43organization, that is Palestine Action, and we also saw
00:39:47several people arrested on suspicion of criminal damage,
00:39:51saw a communist group climbing top the
00:39:54battle of Britain memorial, quite... ordinary scenes there
00:39:58is dozens of protesters and communists stood on
00:40:02that extremely important memorial to the British people,
00:40:06but while I was speaking to people on the march, I got a sense of what they were here
00:40:10for and what they actually believed. so many people told me they did not
00:40:14think that the state of Israel should exist. I also heard from one
00:40:18man who said he wouldn't speak to me because he was, he said, not
00:40:21able to speak to someone like a zionist. that's are his words, here's what he
00:40:25said. are you anti
00:40:29I'm a journalist, I don't take a position, I'm here to speak to people for their views. Okay, okay,
00:40:32so it's okay, then I can't talk to you my dear, because I don't talk to zionists, I'm sorry,
00:40:36yeah, I'd never talk or discuss anything with zionists, because they were
00:40:40criminals, they just genociders, well we also spoke to one man who said
00:40:44that he wanted to deproscribe Hezbolah and Hamas,
00:40:48the Lebanese and Palestinian terrorist organizations that have
00:40:52been firing rockets into Israel into civilian areas
00:40:56since the start the war in. 23, here's what that man said to me,
00:41:00did you support Hezp firing rockets into Israel on October
00:41:038th? did
00:41:04i support them? well,
00:41:07you no, I'm not going to answer that question. you could argue that because they are an occupied
00:41:11people, they have a right to use violence. um, how you use violence is
00:41:15another matter. I have my views, I told you I do not believe in
00:41:18violence. I do not believe in violence for prosecuting your point of view. so if you don't
00:41:22believe in violence, why do you think that this terrorist organization should be
00:41:26deprescribed? call it a terror terrorist organization uh
00:41:30and that is an arbitrary designation and while moving around the protest,
00:41:34speaking to people from the pro Israeli side, they told me
00:41:37why they thought that this idea of a genocide
00:41:41was a lie and that people here were getting it all wrong when they were
00:41:45protesting against the situation in the middle east. there must be some people
00:41:49here who support the right of Israel to exist and that's all zionism is.
00:41:53it's the right of Jews to have a homeland. so we're standing here, we're entitled
00:41:57to be here. and we're saying, in response to the hysteria that you've been
00:42:01seeing around the country for the last year or two uh anti-Israel
00:42:05hysteria, we're saying get over it. come on, Israel's not going
00:42:08anywhere. so we heard from... protesters on both the Israeli and the
00:42:12pro-palestinian side, lot of strong perspectives heard, but
00:42:16also some really confusing conspiratorial and
00:42:19strange uh perspectives shared, some of it just rank
00:42:22antisemitism to be frank, one man telling us that the Jews
00:42:26did a deal with nazi Germany to move the Jews out of
00:42:30Europe and put them into the Middle East, one man said to him,
00:42:34look, there are around million Jews from the Middle East who are
00:42:38in Israel, this isn't some European nation, it's jews all
00:42:42around the world to a part the state of Israel. There's one final
00:42:46conversation I want to bring you, I'm mats with a man who told me that for
00:42:50my reporting I was going to get silver bag. You
00:42:53told me that I'm going to get my bag of silver at the end the month. What does that
00:42:57mean? What do you think a bag of silver is? A bag of
00:43:01silver is a bag of silver. Yeah, and what does it mean metaphorically speaking? It
00:43:05sounds like you're referring to me getting payment for doing my job. We're getting someone now. So who
00:43:09do you think's paying me? 'you're your
00:43:12employer, okay? yes, I do my job, I get paid for it. so what? yeah, you asking
00:43:16the questions now? I'm asking what you mean by that. I'm a journalist, I meant to
00:43:20ask questions. what is your question? what do you mean? what do you mean
00:43:24by I'm going to get a bag of silver doing my job? my employer will pay me, do you mean
00:43:28someone else will pay me? well, I think you just answered your own question.
00:43:31now there could be many perspectives as to what that man meant by
00:43:35that, but any jew watching or listening to this, their hair will be
00:43:39standing on the back'. their neck when they hear a man talking about people being
00:43:42paid in bags of silver for their reporting. the
00:43:46insinuation was clear for those who might have heard it.
00:43:50that's what we've seen today at this march in central london.
00:43:54well we're trying now by at charlie peters himself. charlie,
00:43:58welcome to the program. wow, it's sometimes i
00:44:01see this and i think nobody seems to know really what
00:44:05anything means or what what they're doing or why they're even protesting,
00:44:09yet they have. this sort of view, but it's not
00:44:13really supported with any understanding of what's actually been going on, it's it's very
00:44:16odd, very distorted, nana, you're right, so many people
00:44:20there admitting that they were consuming much their information about the conflict
00:44:24from social media, and perhaps that's why we saw so many
00:44:28people standing on the battle of britan memorial
00:44:31while waving communist flags and chanting
00:44:35Palestinian slogans, that for me was one the most shocking images the
00:44:39day, the... eventually did make several arrests on suspicion of criminal
00:44:43damage, but to see people standing on that memorial,
00:44:47the second world war heroes, that was quite astonishing,
00:44:50and many the people i spoke to today, nana, i could tell they w being very
00:44:54careful with their language, that man holding up that sign saying
00:44:58that he thought that Hamas and Hezbulah should not be prescribed,
00:45:02those are islamist terrorist organizations funded by
00:45:05Iran, he said he did not want to tell me whether I whether
00:45:09he's the actions of hezbolah. that was very careful.
00:45:13however, nana, not everyone was as careful as him.
00:45:17here is another clip, we've been saving back. and i spoke to lady who was
00:45:20dressed fully in the garb the Islamic
00:45:24Republic of Iran. is what she had to say about
00:45:28those Islamist terrorist organizations? Iran
00:45:31100%. I support Iran. um, at the end the day,
00:45:35as far as I'm concerned, America should be kicked out. This
00:45:38is an unjust war. Britain. nothing to do with it, you said you support Iran
00:45:42100%, does does that does that include the
00:45:46proxy groups that Iran supports, hezbolah, Hamas, other
00:45:49organizations, freedom fighters, yes or no, you support
00:45:53them as well, the freedom fighters, at the end the day they
00:45:56are the resistance, yeah, they're fighting for their
00:46:00lands, they fight, somebody was to come here
00:46:03and attack you, take your homes, are you going to fight
00:46:07back, yes, you're gonna, so as far as I'm concerned, their
00:46:10families are getting killed, they were small when they had to put up with all of
00:46:14this, this has been going on for how many years since
00:46:171948, you now they're freedom
00:46:21fighters, so as far as I'm concerned, they're protecting their
00:46:24land, so pardon, I
00:46:28support them because I support reason why is because they're freedom
00:46:32fighters, they're not just fighting anyone, Israel
00:46:36has started all of this, Iran, I mean,
00:46:40the the freedom fighters, they're fighting for their land, they're fighting for
00:46:44their people,
00:46:45you know, they're fighting for their livelihoods. when Hezball fires rockets
00:46:49into Israel, targeting Israel, you support that as well. "well, I'm
00:46:53far, as far as I'm concerned, Israel is the problem the world,
00:46:57it's the biggest cancer the world. Israel is attacking
00:47:01the whole the Middle East, what's an
00:47:05astonishing perspective, that was to hear, Israel is a cancer the
00:47:08world, and she said, "I fully support
00:47:12Hezbullah and Hamas." I should stress, now that is a
00:47:16crime in the United Kingdom to say that those are
00:47:19prescribed terrorist organizations. been
00:47:22prescribed in its entirety since 2019, it is
00:47:26illegal to express support for them just as it's illegal to express
00:47:29support for ISIS, but that's what that lady did with
00:47:33microphone and camera on her, she was happy to say
00:47:37that she fully supports them, she backs Iran, she was wearing the symbol the
00:47:40Islamic Republic of Iran, and then I saw so many Iranian
00:47:44flags there, all the people I asked about their support for Iran said
00:47:48that was just normal, they were resisting a war, and just finally Nana, when I was speak.
00:47:52speaking to
00:47:53that lady, behind me was the senataff, the tribute to our
00:47:57millions of war heroes, it said the glorious dead on
00:48:00the side, and there i was, speaking to woman who supports terrorist
00:48:04organizations committed to the slaughter of Jews in
00:48:08Israel, but also to many westerners all around the world, including
00:48:12people from the United Kingdom, it was horrendous contrast to be
00:48:15frank, wow, Charlie Peters, thank you very much, wow, great
00:48:19report, that's Charlie Peters GB's national reporter. Freedom fighters.
00:48:23Well, I am absolutely staggered. I do not
00:48:27understand how woman can stand there wearing
00:48:31bandana supporting uh the Iranian
00:48:35government, does she understand that if she did that, in
00:48:39Iran, she would be arrested and in prison for
00:48:43showing her hair. Does she understand that? It is illegal
00:48:47for woman to go onto the streets of Iran showing their
00:48:51hair without. being properly veiled, that is why
00:48:54Masha Amini, who died in custody at the hands
00:48:58the IRGC just a couple of years ago, led to
00:49:02demonstrations across the land where thousands of very, very
00:49:06courageous women took off their head scarves to
00:49:09protest how women are treated in that country, and she stands there and says
00:49:13that, it is incredible, sebastian, yeah, I mean, Peter's found,
00:49:17Charlie's found some - some extreme voices there, hasn't he, um, what we have
00:49:21to remember is that among the... is there are people who are protesting peacefully and hold quite moderate views,
00:49:25I think it's quite possible to say that what happened in Gaza was appalling and to
00:49:29go out and to voice your frustration at that without being antisemitic, without supporting
00:49:33dangerous regimes. I don't, well if you're not part the solution, you're part the
00:49:37problem, Andrew Rosendell, quickly, I'm afraid to say we have an enemy
00:49:40within, uh, many the people that we've just seen on those
00:49:43clips frankly, they not only hate Israel, they hate
00:49:47our country, and I think that the British public
00:49:51have had in enough these
00:49:54extremists dominating the streets of London and I think it's
00:49:58time to say enough is enough. Well, I'm with you on those marches right,
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00:53:18welcome back to Alex Armstrong tonight, now GB news is in the Falkland
00:53:21islands as the row over sovereignty
00:53:23continues,
00:53:31so Mark White is there for us. So
00:53:35Mark White talk to me about the Falklands and what kind of reception have you had
00:53:39since you've arrived? Well, it's
00:53:43been incredible. I have to say uh, yesterday we were talking all about of
00:53:47course the belly eaking from the Argentinian president,
00:53:50Havier Miley uh and his demands for
00:53:54sovereignty uh over these islands, but today we've been taking
00:53:58look really - what makes the islands take and what
00:54:02makes the economy here actually selfs.
00:54:05everything from the which is
00:54:08now very, very healthy indeed, providing squid
00:54:12for instance right around the world, the calamari
00:54:15that you would be tasting in the finest restaurants around
00:54:19the world uh will probably have come from the waters around the
00:54:23Falklands, 58% of GDP comes from the
00:54:27fishing industry alone uh and then there's the tourism industry
00:54:31as well, we were up close and
00:54:33per personal with um some penguins earlier this afternoon as
00:54:37well, which was just huge privilege uh to be able to
00:54:41see wildlife in its natural habitat like that
00:54:45uh and then the biggest shot in the arm as far as the economy
00:54:49is concerned will come in the next year or two when they start
00:54:53drilling oil uh in the sealine field the
00:54:56Falklands about two or 300 miles north of where we
00:55:00are at the moment and it is uh so significant and
00:55:05terms of economic uh terms that it
00:55:08will boost the GDP by um
00:55:12more than double uh when that one oil field the sea
00:55:16line field is up and running uh a couple of years
00:55:20time and that's just one of number of different
00:55:23oil fields around the Falkland's basin that oil field
00:55:27itself is about a billion recoverable barrels of
00:55:31oil but round the Falklands bason there could be
00:55:35up to 60 billion barrels of recoverable
00:55:38oil and gas, so very, very significant uh
00:55:42deposits there, and the perhaps one the very
00:55:46significant factors behind
00:55:48Argentina's uh renewed
00:55:51attempts to gain control of this island
00:55:55archipelago, uh, have you manage to get
00:55:59to speak to any the Falkland islanders and and if so have they
00:56:03mentioned that they're happy to be... part the United Kingdom
00:56:06be being a part of Britain. Yeah,
00:56:10we've spoken to money uh many
00:56:13uh in just the last uh 24 hours that we've been here and they've
00:56:17all got that message. They are absolutely resolutely
00:56:21determined ish, they are very proud, you see the
00:56:25flags uh flying all around this island
00:56:29um and what they say is the more that Argentina
00:56:32presses uh for sovereignty of. these islands,
00:56:36the the more they are determined and the more resolute
00:56:40they are to remain British. Mark white, thank you very much,
00:56:44he's there live in
00:56:45the Falklands. let's get the thoughts of my panel, I'll come to you Andrew
00:56:48Rossendale. so well, I've been to the Falklands
00:56:52on several occasions and I can tell you that pretty much every single
00:56:56person on those islands wants to stay
00:56:59British, they have the right of
00:57:02self-determination, we fought a war, a conflict. to ensure that those
00:57:06people had the right to determine their own destiny. now it so happens at
00:57:10years later that lot of wealth could be created through the
00:57:14extraction of oil and gas from the seas around the for condiland. 'It
00:57:17belongs to
00:57:18the Falklanders, it's jully lucky, actually that that the Falkland
00:57:22islands are an overseas territory, not part the UK, because you'd probably find this labor
00:57:26government tell them they couldn't extract the oil and the gas, but they're going to
00:57:30become very much self-sufficient, they already are, um, I'm
00:57:34hoping that uh it will be a model of a British overseas
00:57:37territory, but they're only able to do this because 40
00:57:41odd years ago the armed services went there and rescued those islands
00:57:45from an illegal Argentine invasion'.
00:57:47you got 20 seconds or 10 seconds even briefly um,
00:57:49i think we're largely
00:57:50in agreement here, the forklines must be British, self-determination is a principle that applies everywhere in
00:57:54the world, and um, this is no exception. well, let's hope
00:57:57that they say see that with the chegos, because the chegosians would like to stay on
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01:01:17It's 10 o'clock, I'm Nana Aquare in for Alex Armstrong
01:01:21tonight,
01:01:27one%, illegal migrants aren't just
01:01:31pretending to be gay anymore, now they reportedly using fake sick
01:01:34notes to stay in Britain, and I haven't uh
01:01:38downplayed the seriousness the findings, they are
01:01:42findings that need to be um
01:01:44considered, yes it's been... field that
01:01:48hundreds of thousands of pounds in freebees have been handed to labour
01:01:52politicians, and the decade we've just been through has not been good
01:01:55enough, I don't think Brexit has helped us, if I'm
01:01:59honest, I think it has caused harm, so what are we going to do in this next
01:02:03decade? a Brexit warning from the
01:02:07express, the EU would blunder Britain if we
01:02:10ever returned, and on the front page the daily mail horror at
01:02:14the zoo, the 30th stone tiger... that has mowed a man to
01:02:18death, and on my panel tonight, journalist and broadcaster Linda Deuvley,
01:02:22reform UK, Andrew Rosendell, and former Labor counselor
01:02:26Sebastian Sellick, and should executions be lied,
01:02:30streamed and we'll make sure that people are able
01:02:33to to watch it, that it's public uh, because people need to understand
01:02:36that this is uh, there's serious consequences for these types
01:02:39of
01:02:52things, illegal migrants are lying, surprise, surprise, to
01:02:56stay in Britain, asylum seekers are reportedly buying fake.
01:03:00sick notes online for just 44 pounds so they can dodge
01:03:04home office interviews about their claims. no
01:03:07GP appointment needed just describe your illness and it's approved the
01:03:11same day. now the tactic buys them up to six months, six months to
01:03:15build their story, keep working illegally and dig themselves deeper
01:03:19into this country. an internal home office memo
01:03:23seen by the daily mail, tell staff to report any
01:03:27these notes that turn up in
01:03:30and the mail proved how easy it is, they
01:03:34submitted id, filled out a form, recorded the 32nd
01:03:38video claiming to have the flu and got their sick note in less
01:03:42than 24 hours, but this isn't even half of it,
01:03:45earlier this week we learned that illegal immigrants are pretending
01:03:49to be gay to stay, a group is accused of
01:03:53helping Bangladeshies fraugently claim asylum by
01:03:57providing fake letters of support and evidence packages. is designed to
01:04:01fool case workers, they're charging between 1,000 and
01:04:044,500 pounds a time, staging gay events and photo
01:04:08shoots, and this isn't even new, because back in April, groups of
01:04:12Pakistani and Bangladeshi men were caught on camera openly
01:04:16admitting that they were pretending to be gay, attending fake
01:04:20meetings and sending the pictures straight to the home office. Another
01:04:24those attending tell our undercover reporter that many people at the
01:04:27meeting are not really gay.
01:04:50The system is being abused on industrial scale a
01:04:53whistleblower at the home office has claimed that only around 1% the sigling
01:04:57claims are actually genuine. While ordinary British
01:05:01people wait years for a GP appointment and struggle with a broken
01:05:05NHS, illegal migrants are buying medical notes online,
01:05:09faking sexuality claims so they can jump the queue and
01:05:13stay here. This government talks tough on borders, but the reality
01:05:16is it's a free for all. The British public are being played for fools
01:05:20and we, the taxpayers are footing the bill. All right, let's
01:05:24get the thoughts of my panel, journalist and broadcaster Linda Dubai, Reform
01:05:27UK, Andrew Rossendell, and for. labour council Sebastian
01:05:31Selec. All right, I'll start with you, Linda Duby. I think the problem
01:05:35we've got here is with illegal or undocumented um
01:05:39immigration here, you've opened the door to organize crime, and
01:05:43that goes all the way through from - from fairly
01:05:47minor instances to fairly major things like
01:05:50trafficking and uh modern
01:05:52slavery or and all sorts of things are going on
01:05:56now that we have lost control of. Now one the... biggest
01:06:00things uh that's happening here is that people are getting these
01:06:04um the these uh permission to remain by saying that they're gay and they face
01:06:08persecution in their own country because in Bangladesh it is illegal to be gay I
01:06:12think in Pakistan it's unlawful I think in Nigeria
01:06:16it's actually criminal it's criminalized and and the problem is there are now
01:06:20so many claims uh they've gone up from 30
01:06:22just over 3200 to 82,00 in
01:06:252025 that we can't keep control of this we've got
01:06:29that that's a civil servant there is saying that there are many, many
01:06:33people that are trying to claim the right to stay in this country
01:06:37when they gay, when they're not, they've got several instances of people who've been
01:06:41claiming political asylum for nine years, fail to get
01:06:44political asylum so they go down the gay route with fake
01:06:48photographs, fake documents, fake videos, it's
01:06:52just not acceptable to abuse the the hospitality and the fairness of
01:06:56this country in that way. do you think Sebastian, the bar is just set a bit too?
01:07:00in what way? sorry, well the bar being set so low for how you can claim
01:07:04asylum in this country, so for example, should you be able to claim
01:07:07asylum due to your sexuality? yeah, definitely. of course, if you're
01:07:11being persecuted somewhere else, you should be able to seek the shelter in Britain and other countries, we don't
01:07:15i don't want anybody anywhere in the world um to suffer
01:07:19imprisonment or worse for for their sexuality, that's
01:07:22horrendous, but the problem is that the people who are faking being gay are making
01:07:26it much harder, the people who have a justifiable. and
01:07:30and also really the reason I ask is because you can say that you're
01:07:34gay but there's nothing really that you can prove that you're gay so it makes it
01:07:38very difficult or you can say that you're g and make fake stuff up like these guys.
01:07:42and then well what happens then? so unless that thing that you're
01:07:46saying can be proven, it's not something that you are, it's something that you
01:07:50yourself can only prove in this way, then i just think it's kind of a bit of
01:07:54a difficult one, yeah,
01:07:56i don't, i personally think
01:07:58that the bars too low, if it's something that you if you only you
01:08:02can prove because it's an internal and it's your own personal sexual
01:08:06preference, whichever way whether you're meant to be gay or whatever, i just
01:08:09don't get why that would be on the list.
01:08:13"look, I don't think it should be, we've incentivized vast numbers of
01:08:17people who are not genuine asylum seekers to come to
01:08:20Britain, because we're so damn soft, and we've been soft
01:08:24for so long, so they want to come to Britain, they know that by coming
01:08:28here, they're going to live nice lives, they're going to get lots of
01:08:32free bees, lot free accommodation, free health and all the rest of it, so
01:08:36of course they're going to come with every kind of possible excuse to find a way into this
01:08:40country, I think the vast majority..." these people, there's genuine ones like the
01:08:44Ukrainians etc, but the vast majority are not genuine asylum
01:08:48seekers, so what needs to happen is these lawyers who are aiding and
01:08:52abeting asylum seekers to come to this country under
01:08:56false claim, they should be prosecuted and struck
01:09:00off completely, but I'm saying it's like organized
01:09:03crime,
01:09:05it is organized, because the charges between that they're charging these people between a
01:09:09thous pounds and a half00 pounds in to create
01:09:13these fake documents, I mean that is organized crime open
01:09:17the doors, they making it hard for genuine asylumseekers,
01:09:20you now this country has always taken genuine asylum seekers, but the vast
01:09:24numbers coming in now, no one believes that most them are here a
01:09:28genuine claim, so it's harming people that really need help from actually
01:09:32coming to the United Kingdom, so what would reform UK do about it, so as I've said we
01:09:36would absolutely strike off any lawyer, but what about
01:09:39the that's that's helping these people and uh prosecute them
01:09:43because they're allowing people to come to this country under false pretences, would you
01:09:47keep that? so for me, I would, I,
01:09:49you know, if you're fearing persecution for your religion or for
01:09:53your sexuality, these are the things where people are really taking advantage of our
01:09:57generosity, would you consider removing those as that
01:10:01bar and just changing that? I think you have to look at each
01:10:04individual case, because clearly they're going to be genuine
01:10:07people, fling persecution, they can get all the bits
01:10:11of documents. "they can, and that's why we need to be absolutely strict about who
01:10:15we allow into our country, because the British people won't wear it anymore, the British people
01:10:19have lost patience with this entire situation, and the
01:10:23other thing is you can't take the whole world into Britain, you
01:10:27know, there's no end of people who will find reason to claim asylum,
01:10:31so there has to be some kind of limit, and we have way, way
01:10:34way reached beyond the limit that the British people are prepared to
01:10:38tolerate in my view. do you think we need to do something about the numbers that we're allowing in?" "
01:10:42now because quite seriously the yes, because you talked
01:10:46about yeah, you'd if somebody's been persecuted, you want to take them in and
01:10:50everything, but there has to be limit surely, oh, there is limit of course, but
01:10:54how we reached it, do you think in your view, well the number of asilum seekers has drap
01:10:58dropped drastically this year, so we're not approaching a limit, we're moving away from it, and I also
01:11:01want to challenge the narrative that people are flocking to Britain, because if you look at the countries that take
01:11:05most asylum seekers, they're often neighboring countries, so it's places like Turkey and other places
01:11:09in the Middle East, which is logical bause that makes sense, yes? 'yeah, if you're fleeing somewhere
01:11:13where you are persecuted, you're going to go nearby, and even in Europe, we're not even in the top 10, but
01:11:17we're not as big as some the countries, which country are
01:11:19you going to compare us to? well, if you're taking it per capita then then that size becomes less
01:11:23relevant, and places like Germany take way more than we do, so Germany are much
01:11:27bigger than the United Kingdom, no, I'm talking per capita here as well, we're not even in the top 10 in
01:11:31Europe, if if you kind of standardize for population sizes, and then you have
01:11:35to take into account the fact that we're an island and you have to make very deadly crossing to get
01:11:39here, which most people understandly, it is very deadly'. would
01:11:42you do it? would you get a dingy? i just wouldn't go by a dingy. okay, so you wouldn't
01:11:46do
01:11:47the deadly crossing, neither would i not because it's a deadly crossing, i just wouldn't do that bause i don't like
01:11:51water and that's not how i would tr because you drown in it, because don't
01:11:53like water, i just don't like waters, no, because so you just just to be
01:11:57clear you saying channel crossings in a dingy are not deadly because you're going to be
01:12:01picked up if anything happens, you can literally guarantee that that
01:12:04even though the crossing itself i wouldn't advise the fact that if something does happen
01:12:08to you you're literally being watched so are you saying that nobody is drown? in the
01:12:12channel, very few, you don't think people are drowning in the channel? very few. did
01:12:16you hear my answer? didn't say i don't think people are drowning. okay, what are we saying? one or two, hundreds,
01:12:20where are we? hold a minute, i' just i don't need to give number, i just i don't
01:12:24think you're well with any rights not to give number, i don't
01:12:26need to give number, anybody, why are you asking me the question? we're having a conversation, we're
01:12:29not really, we're not really cuz i think you're just you're just trying to get me to
01:12:33give numbers and figures on something, i've just made in my view and i make this very
01:12:37clear, i don't think the channel crossing is that dangers, the reason why is because you're
01:12:41being observed. moment you get on the diggy,
01:12:43the fact you're
01:12:43being uhered away, then if there is a problem, you've got the lifeguards and everybody else in the border
01:12:47force ready to to say all i'm saying is it's very telling that as soon as i asked you that question your
01:12:51guard went up and you didn't want to as soon as you speak my guard goes up sebastian.
01:12:55so wasn't that question? yeah,
01:12:57it is, because right, where are we?
01:13:01i think we should listen to what the British people are saying, i think so, actually, and the British
01:13:05people have had enough, and for Sebastian, they
01:13:09think immigration is going up, for Sebastian to talk about
01:13:12asylum, as if, oh, actually, compared to other countries, we're not
01:13:16taking quite so many, we're not, so the whole nature of asylum has
01:13:20changed, in years gone by, asylum was something that we
01:13:24welcomed people. that are fleeing genuine persecution, warthorn
01:13:27countries, you know, we are welcoming decent uh people in this
01:13:31country, but our system has been abused
01:13:34horribly in recent decades and the British people have lost
01:13:38patience, and genuine asylum seekers are prevented from coming, the all these
01:13:42fake ones coming in, so enough as enough again, once again the British
01:13:46state has failed to look after the interests the British
01:13:49people, and reform UK government will tackle this and will tackle it
01:13:53very quickly because system is a sorting system, it finds the genuine ones, gives
01:13:57them asylum and gets rid of those who aren't genuine, don't you
01:13:59agree, don't you agree, sebastian, we are
01:14:03covering, sebastian, we are covering story
01:14:07about people who are making fake claims, yes, i'm telling you, i agree that
01:14:11that's a bad idea, there's a lot of people doing, not once have i said that they
01:14:15should be doing that, of course if you're abusing the asilum system you should not be given asylum, that
01:14:18is so obvious anybody would agree with that, but you're telling us that there is a
01:14:22sorting system, clearly not? No, no, no, I'm telling you that there should
01:14:26be a sorting system, that's what the asylum system exists to do, does it not? I thought you said there
01:14:30was a sorting system, well yeah, you you works, we
01:14:34could always make it better, of course we could, or make it work,
01:14:37huh? How would you make it work? You could make it much
01:14:41more diligent. I, I, I mean, I've spoken to civil servants who think
01:14:45they should be spending more time investigating
01:14:48claims, how? And actually, this week, the home
01:14:51office investigators were out closing. the
01:14:55organization with that was organizing fake documents, so we do
01:14:59more of that, close down more organizations, but that doesn't answer my
01:15:03question, I asked you how would you improve the the sorting process, well how would
01:15:06you, how would you improve it? i don't know,
01:15:10you don't know, asking them to answer something,
01:15:12so so linda has said we should approve improve the sorting process and i'm asking how, well you
01:15:16said it's a sorting system, so you tell us how it should be, no, so didn't make the claim that we should
01:15:20improve it, linda did, i'm asking her to clarify that, that's all now, it's quite quite
01:15:24innocent, you improve the system, haven't said that the system, asking your
01:15:27question, you don't think it needs to be improved, you think i don't know, but i'm not saying i, well do you
01:15:31think the system needs to be improved? the system can always be improved, all systems can be improved,
01:15:34how would
01:15:35you improve the system cuz you said all systems could be improved, well i would overhaul it completely
01:15:39and yeah, and what would you do? i would have safe and legal roots, really? so every
01:15:43country, or would you choose countries? how would you do that? any country, i would allow them to lodge
01:15:46claims within the embassies in those countries, and then we decide them remotely, then you get nobody
01:15:50coming on boats, nobody risking their lives, because they don't have to. how would you do that in
01:15:54sedan? as opposed
01:15:58to but what embassy would they go to in Sudan? well, this is it, it's imperfect, but
01:16:02it's better than what we have, it's safer than what we have, but there's no embassy in Sudan,
01:16:06so your system, so then you have
01:16:07to get then you have to get to a neighboring country, but you don't have to come all the way to Britain and get on the boat, do
01:16:11you see how it's imperfect but better than what
01:16:13we have? well, I'll take silence
01:16:17as consent and agreement, no, I wouldn't, it doesn't mean
01:16:21that, it just means that well, you know, exactly, there are plenty of other countries with the same so...
01:16:25problem, but in response to the asylum seekers buying sick notes, a home office
01:16:29spokesperson said, we are committed to progressing asylum cases an
01:16:32efficient and cost-effective way, whilst bearing down on abuse
01:16:36the system, we've cut waiting times with over 70% of claims
01:16:40received during the last quarter of 2025, decided within
01:16:44six months, the highest percentage in 11 years. in line with our
01:16:48published policy, asylum interview will never be delayed due to illness
01:16:52or a medical condition without sufficient medical evidence, from a
01:16:55qualified professional. On fake gay asylum claims,
01:16:59home secretary Shavana Mahmoud said Britain will always provide sanctory to
01:17:03people genuinely in danger, but those fac
01:17:06faking persecution are beneath contempt
01:17:10and mock real victims who need protection. To the gangs
01:17:14profiting from this disgraceful fraud, you will be prosecuted, stripped of
01:17:18your dirty money and shut down. And to those cheating the
01:17:21system, your claim will be thrown out and you will be removed from. this
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01:20:48So is labor once again exploiting their positions
01:20:52for freebees. A sun investigation has revealed that
01:20:56labor politicians have recently uh received nearly
01:20:5930000 pounds of freebes from the UAE and
01:21:03its football giant. Now this includes City Match tickets
01:21:07for. for the team that of course was found
01:21:10guilty of financial rule breaking last month, but it doesn't stop at
01:21:14football tickets. the investigation also found the evidence that the
01:21:18UAE treated those attending matched uh with
01:21:21free flowing champagne luxury flights, which raises the
01:21:25question about the party's connection to the Gulf state. well let's get the thoughts of my
01:21:29panel journalist and broadcaster Linda Duvley, reform UKMP Andrew
01:21:33Rosendell and former labor council Sebastian Cell. Sebastian, I will come
01:21:37to you because labor stood on a plint of integrity, it changed, we
01:21:41had the conservatives who, I'm sorry, but they were just disaster, so there'll be no
01:21:45support for me, from me, for them, especially in the last five
01:21:49years, and now labor promised to be different, and now this is the second, the
01:21:53moment they came into power,
01:21:54it was freegate with Kiss Starm and all the others, and
01:21:56now we're back here again, um, I mean, what's interesting about this story is the sun report is
01:22:00that all parties are taking money from from the UAE, um, and
01:22:04labor and power, and they did stand a plint of integrity, I don't let anybody off by
01:22:08the way, but talking about the labor government who came in talking about
01:22:12change, integrity, blah blah blah blah blah, and actually I don't really have a problem with
01:22:15any politician taking money from most organizations or
01:22:19or states really, where I do have a problem is when they then make decisions
01:22:23or campaign issues that clearly are influenced by that money that they've taken, buse
01:22:27and was all in support of Man City initially, wasn't he, he made that comment
01:22:31which he should have stayed out of, and people might be sort of looking to him and
01:22:35thinking, hm, although he's
01:22:36not named. "no, he's not, and and I think the point he was making was the
01:22:40amount of investment
01:22:41that that Abu Dhabi has made in Manchester and the economic growth that it's had as result rather
01:22:45than their ownership of Man City, so we've got
01:22:47to be careful not to blur, no, no, no, it's not being blured, but I'm just saying as in overall, it
01:22:51just does look a bit dodgy because the labor party did come in, we were
01:22:55hoping to see different sort of way of governing, and here we are again with
01:22:59freebes, so you have no problem with people accepting freebes, no, but the problem I have
01:23:03is when they then start campaigning on behalf the people who gave them the freebes, well that's why
01:23:06the'.
01:23:07are offered, well there you go, well that's it, but it's your choice whether you want to do anything about it,
01:23:11no, they're doing that to try and soften you up, to try and get you - to bring you
01:23:15in to slightly
01:23:16compromise you and see if they can get, that's what lobbying is,
01:23:18it's a whole industry built out. is actual taking actual freebes, actual
01:23:22uh,
01:23:23you know, tangible things that you could decline, of course you could, all
01:23:27parties could, and
01:23:28they haven't, yeah, those power,
01:23:30the plint of integrity, what about your party, and so I think all members of
01:23:34parliament get invited to events, special
01:23:37occasions, ceremonies, concerts, football
01:23:40matches, now sometimes it's necessary to do it because it's part of your
01:23:44role, particularly is a constituency link, uh, now maybe some
01:23:48these MPs. manchester MPs and there was a link to
01:23:52it, but we all have to remember that our
01:23:55first job is to serve the people and not to live life
01:23:59of riley on free b's, and what i have a problem with is not MPs doing
01:24:03their job and accepting invitations the link to their work, we all have to
01:24:07do that.
01:24:08what i don't like is the hypocrisy the labour
01:24:11party, because the labour party were the biggest critics of all this
01:24:15under the last government, and they have, they're far worse than
01:24:19any - previous set of MPs from what it seems
01:24:22in taking freebes, look at Kier Starmer, the moment he became prime
01:24:26minister, getting new suits, new spectacles and goodness knows what else, so
01:24:30I just don't like this labor hypocrisy, and that's what I see,
01:24:33complete hypocrisy from the labor party, so what should they do, well not accept
01:24:37them, I'm asking, well you have to use judgement, you have to use judgment and
01:24:41common sense, if there is some kind of event
01:24:45or visit, and I've been on international visits bause I do lot of foreign affairs
01:24:49work, 'you have to sometimes do that as
01:24:52an MP and you have to declare it and you have to show integrity in what
01:24:56you're doing, what you don't do is to go on loads and loads of jollies
01:25:00and have a great time uh when actually MP should
01:25:03focus on what really matters and what their job is as you
01:25:07know to represent the people and to defend the interests the country and some
01:25:11people clearly as we've seen on this they're clearly abusing it but the worst thing
01:25:15is they're hypocrites because they criticized it before but they do it themselves
01:25:18can i just say I'd like to just say that I I think you've got a very good point
01:25:22there, because labor have put themselves forward as this kind of moral guardians
01:25:26in the political arena, um, and and that is not the
01:25:30case. Um, now you raised a really important point, you
01:25:34you said that actually none these gifts should be accepted if there's a conflict of
01:25:37interest, it should be perfectly within the the the
01:25:41mental capacity of any MP to look a situation and work out
01:25:45whether they should or should not be accepting tickets, airline flights,
01:25:49gifts of any. description, but when I just want to make one point about the sun
01:25:52story, which is fairly comprehensive, it is absolutely obvious from the sun
01:25:56story that the vast majority these gifts of football
01:26:00tickets of airline tickets went to labor party, because the vast majority
01:26:04of MPs are labor MPs, it's simply proportional, no, it's not
01:26:08proportional, not if you read the story, I mean I've read
01:26:12the story and there's a largest party in government, so it's unsurprising just as the tories were
01:26:16when they were the largest party are going to be taking the most.
01:26:20well go and run me through it, no, you can't keep doing that, but you're going to make
01:26:24an argument, back it up, well pull the sun story up then,
01:26:28but you you want me through it, no, because we we've read
01:26:32the sun story, we know the majority the
01:26:35gifts went to the labour
01:26:37party, to the majority they
01:26:41hold in the house of, they might be the biggest party in
01:26:45government, but the real problem here is the fact that they stood a plenty
01:26:49of integrity. and and they said they promised change and this is not what we're
01:26:52seeing here, we're seeing the just as bad if not worse did they
01:26:56ever say
01:26:59but don't think
01:27:00well and also also the other thing is on the backdrop of what this country is going through
01:27:03so the optics are very bad for those of us who are
01:27:07working - but off to try and make ends meat as they increase taxes
01:27:11and put on whatever taxing this tax that all right fair enough they're in
01:27:14government you know i'm not happy with the tax you think
01:27:18let me let me get to the end uh 'and then you'll find out what I think yeah
01:27:21um, but the bottom line is this that what
01:27:25it looks like, the optics are very bad when we the public are
01:27:29financing all these other things to try and keep this country afloat and they accepting free
01:27:33because it's not good, so you will then condemn Nigel Faraj who took
01:27:379,00 pounds to go to the Formula 1 in
01:27:39Abu Dhabi, well he's not in government right now and he also has, well he's an MP,
01:27:43he res he also hasn't stod a plant of integrity right,
01:27:47he hasn't gone out there and said I'm going to change this when not going to do politics like
01:27:51this, we're not going to we're not going to accept frees and blah blah blah blah, the labor government have stood out
01:27:55there and told us that that's what they just so we understand your view for everybody at home, it's fine
01:27:59for Nigel Farage to do it, but it's not fine for labor to do it, it's not fine, I don't like anyone
01:28:03taking so you will condemn Nigel Farage, let me be very clear,
01:28:05I don't like anyone taking free beast,
01:28:09including did you hear the word anyone, I
01:28:13don't like anyone including anyone, how much more do I what does
01:28:16anyone mean to you, does that mean does is he not included in anyone? I've just
01:28:20explained
01:28:21so you're conming, I'm not condemning anyone, I'm just saying I don't agree with anyone
01:28:25taking free beasts okay, Sebastian, you're the only MP singling, you're the only
01:28:29person singling out one MP, let's talk. in general
01:28:33terms, MPs have a job to do, and sometimes we do have to take
01:28:37part in events and visits and it has to be proportionate to
01:28:41our work, we have
01:28:42to declare it, and it has to be relevant to what we're doing, and I think what
01:28:45we're saying is that clearly this looks way over the top from what
01:28:49I can see, I can't believe all those labor MPs have the need
01:28:53to attend all these events and take part in all these
01:28:56activities and and take whatever donations they may or may not have
01:29:00received, but I don't want to single out any... particular MP and that's what you're trying to do, but that's
01:29:04that's awkward for you, isn't it? because the person I'm signing out is your party leader who's taken
01:29:08900 pounds from abudabi formula 1 to go to the form,
01:29:11but he's not hypocrite, how does that further? unlike the labor
01:29:15party who condemned all this before, and they're on the gravy train straight
01:29:18afterwards, yeah, but that's not the
01:29:21point, we're talking about hypocrisy though, you have to ask him that, I didn't know
01:29:25about this until this evening, but what matters is that that he's
01:29:29got integrity, he's declared it, clearly he does. because and you're talking only
01:29:33about one mb, I'm talking about
01:29:35generally, excuse me,
01:29:39excuse me, okay, is not here to defend himself, no, but
01:29:43he's not, no, no, no, he's not here to defend himself, so we have to, we
01:29:47have to, so I'm going to point out now, something because I found the
01:29:51uh, right paragraph, labor took the biggest share with almost
01:29:54275,00 pounds worth of
01:29:58freebees across 28 entries for
01:30:0125. of individual MPs, the tories had more
01:30:05entries at 43 and more MPs, 38
01:30:09mps, however they took 100,00 pounds
01:30:12less than the labour party, which is not proportionate
01:30:16to the majority that the labour party has in the house of
01:30:19commons. um, it's not far off though, is it? well, I
01:30:23mean, you're right, 175 to 275, and you've got what
01:30:264000 mps to about 200, close only counts in hand grenades and bore
01:30:30room dancing,
01:30:33the figures, not far off is not good enough, well what's the
01:30:37proportion? give me the ratio? oh no, i think we need
01:30:40to we'll
01:30:42do the mat in the break, yeah you do the mat in the break cuz i'm noting with it, the
01:30:46bottom line is this, i can't stand hypocrisy and i don't particularly like anyone accepting
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01:36:43Nanna Aqueer. All right, it's time to bring you tomorrow's front pages. Let's take
01:36:47a look at the Sunday telegraph. Trump, Zelensky must
01:36:51be owsted in the observer, the return
01:36:55the public execution. The Sunday
01:36:58Express, EU would plunder Britain if
01:37:02Brexit were reversed. Right, let's get the thoughts of my panel
01:37:05journalist and broadcaster Linda Dubley, reform UK, Andrew
01:37:09Rosendell, and former labor councer Sebastian Sallec. All right, let's have
01:37:13look, what should we go for first? Let's go for the Sunday
01:37:16telegraph um this one actually in the
01:37:19corner um oh it's in the corner actually it's story about burnham
01:37:23rushes to ax photo ids at
01:37:26elections why is he rushing to do that is he trying to get everyone
01:37:30to vote quickly ooh are we sensing an election a little bit
01:37:34earlier than maybe what do you think Andrew well that worries me mean we
01:37:38bought this idea in to stop frauds of people coming in and
01:37:41voting several times or voting for members their fan or
01:37:45voting for people that have died, having photo id prevents all that. now the
01:37:49fact that if Bernham is suggesting we get rid of that, he's
01:37:53inviting corruption to return, so that's very concerning.
01:37:57if that actually uh, he's going to do that, yes, it might
01:38:01sound like he's preparing for early election, because he probably thinks
01:38:04this change would benefit the labour party, potentially,
01:38:08because why though, people are people who commit fraud more likely to vote
01:38:12for them, i don't think so, maybe. so why would you do that though?
01:38:16Sebastian Cell, do you see any reason why Burnham, Andy Burnam might rush to act photo
01:38:20ids at election, but it sounds like they're saying that he's in a rush to
01:38:24do this, yeah, look, I'm pleased that this is in the in the offing, um, that law
01:38:28was brought in by the tories, um, what does it do, makes it more likely for you to be able to
01:38:32vote, if you've got ID, you're going to be older, you're going to be less marginalized, it's, I think it's
01:38:36anti-democratic, well, just forcing someone to show the idea, someone to have
01:38:40idea
01:38:40in the first place,
01:38:42and then what's wrong with that, I mean, I would expect that to... that you are who you
01:38:45say you are and that you are not somebody else pretending to vote on behalf of somebody
01:38:49else, well that's that's the whole point, the reality is if you ask the electoral commission, the
01:38:53instances of voter fraud is vanishingly low, so it just wasn't an issue that
01:38:57needs. 'well okay, but I'd still want it to vanish, so like most
01:39:00people have a passport, if you go somewhere you can bring a passport as id, can't you surely? well
01:39:04no, the point is not everyone does have a passport and therefore we're disenfranchising those
01:39:08don't do, so these guys are never gone holiday, but most isn't good enough, and this is the thing
01:39:12everyone can afford to go abroad or to have a passport was a passport, you could
01:39:16have other forms of ideas, why would you not want
01:39:19people to prove who they are before they cast their vote,
01:39:23because up until the point where that law was brought in the instances of voter fold was so small that it was
01:39:27issue,
01:39:27but we what
01:39:28we know is that the touries thrive off folks from people who do have that kind of idea who maybe a little
01:39:32bit older and therefore
01:39:34are able to produce the id, the kind of doors that i knock on so by your logic then
01:39:38perhaps labor are doing this because those who don't have ids are more
01:39:42likely to vote for them so that's why they want to do
01:39:43that so the point of enfranchisement is you have to make it as easy to vote as possible and that's why i
01:39:47want to vote online and all sorts of other methods but by saying
01:39:51that you have to have id you make it that little bit harder for people to be able to cast
01:39:55anyone can
01:39:56come in and vote no and you have to have id, i think this is, but why? because
01:40:00the problem wasn't there to begin with, just you said it's vanishing in low,
01:40:03but the fact that it is vanishing i low,
01:40:06you don't want it to then balloon and get bigger, people might
01:40:11worried decide, about
01:40:12but it, nobody's maybe, but
01:40:12you don't know that, so
01:40:13what is the data, how small is it, it's incredibly, so i'll show you linda uh, here
01:40:17we go, so at the 2024 election there
01:40:20were uh 236 cases
01:40:24um and yeah, but that was with photo id uh
01:40:27what's true? what was it before photo id? let's have look. let's go back to
01:40:31the what was it? 2019 election? uh, voter fraud. come
01:40:35back to me, i'm going to do a bit of googling and i will let you know. uh, i'll come back to
01:40:39you, that's we won't forget that will we. all right, let's do trump and zelensky in the
01:40:42meantime. - do do remind us to come back to sebastian for the
01:40:45figures. um, okay, okay, this one here, the white house's
01:40:49anger at strikes on fuel facilities threatens to deepen the
01:40:53rift with the UK, so donald trump has called for vladimir.
01:40:58uh to be, I can't read that, to be outted
01:41:02basically, he wants to get rid of vladimir zelensky, well those people, the thing is lot of
01:41:06people say that it's not fair Zelensky hasn't had an election and so and so forth,
01:41:10but in times of war, it's quite difficult to have an election, and also to get people
01:41:14to gather in one place is unwise given the way that Vladimir
01:41:17Putin is behaving, I think the problem here is that um, Putin has
01:41:21agreed to send
01:41:23the this diesel to America because America has been a rock and a hard place.
01:41:27with trouble at the pumps, people pay more for their diesel, um, Trump has
01:41:31sorted that out, people think that that is being dissolted
01:41:34Zelensky, but Trump is obviously heading towards a really bad
01:41:38time in the mid-terms, so he's decided to go ahead with it, and part of
01:41:42that is Rubbishing Zelensky, yeah, well buse that's politics, I
01:41:46do wasn't tell, what do you thought, so look, it's up to the people of Ukraine who they elect as their
01:41:50president, I think there is issue that there has to
01:41:53be some democratic mandate the president of.
01:41:57at some point, there hasn't been an election, and I do think
01:42:01there's vast frustration that the war in
01:42:05Ukraine is just carrying on, and we all believe that
01:42:08there has to be solution to this, has to end, it cannot just go on and on like
01:42:12this, so it's not for Donald Trump or anyone else to tell the
01:42:16Ukrainian people who they should elect as their president, but I do
01:42:20think there has to be mechanism to give Mr.
01:42:23Zelensky or whoever a mandate to carry on governing and... to
01:42:27decide what the future is going to be?
01:42:29all right, tomasten, your thoughts on this, mortified by the fact that Trump is doing
01:42:33business with the Russians, as we in Britain put more and more sanctions onto them,
01:42:37which is something that the Tori government did before, very well, and the labor government have continued,
01:42:41also admirable, um, yes, you can say Zelensky must be
01:42:45owstered, but replaced by by whom? uh, you open up a massive
01:42:48question there, and this shows that Trump is no ally of uh
01:42:52of Ukraine, um, and is it odds with us and our European neighbors on this
01:42:56question? extremely... turning. I mean, how would you even run an
01:43:00election in in the state the country? Well, that's exactly the thing,
01:43:04isn't it,
01:43:04but you can't really, and and why would you also would be dangerous for
01:43:08people to come out and try and vote. And now, let's get back to Sebastian, did you find those
01:43:12figures? I did, yeah, I'll read you this passage. So this is from the electoral reform society who are
01:43:16giving evidence on the uh, on the bill. Uh, they say uh, the
01:43:20changes are unlikely to affect the security the scheme given that personenation was not
01:43:24widespread, issue before ID cards were introduced, out the... ledger cases
01:43:28of electoral fraud in the 2019 elections, only 33 related to
01:43:31personal fraud at the polling station, this comprises
01:43:350.005%
01:43:38the over 58 million votes casts um and only one
01:43:42of those allegations resulted in the conviction and one
01:43:45accoution, one too many though, that's one too many and also
01:43:49i think it's important to have id if you're going to be voted, but the vast majority not
01:43:53detected, that was the thing, the vast majority of of fraud
01:43:56cases people voting uh on behalf the people or
01:44:00people that are dead, these the vast majority were not detected, so if they were detected, how do
01:44:04you know they happen? because you can clearly see that
01:44:08someone has done this, because because there's a voter role as a
01:44:12mark register so if the dead person has voted clearly
01:44:16someone's done something thank you very much I need to get into the next story I want to go to the
01:44:20front cover the absorber the return the public execution I didn't want that to slip under
01:44:24the radar so in 1936 crowds in America
01:44:28witnessed the last public hanging uh the Trump administration now plans to
01:44:32live stream a firing squad uh now I don't
01:44:36know my my views on this are I agree with the execution of our firing.
01:44:40I'm not so sure whether I'd live stream it, but I have no problem with
01:44:44- this person being killed by firing squad, yeah, but it's the live stream, the live stream
01:44:47the issue even the former commander of
01:44:51Forthood, the base uh where this atrocity happened, the
01:44:55actual commander who was responsible for apprehending the terrorist
01:44:59involved and therefore putting him in jail is
01:45:02against the streaming, and I think if he and
01:45:05apparently you's been award the purple heart, he's been awarded various other.
01:45:10very distinguished medals by the American government, if he's against
01:45:13the um against the public execution being uh
01:45:17streamed live online, I think we can all kind of get behind him, because
01:45:21what he's saying is it's inhumane to return to some kind of
01:45:25medieval practice like this, but also it affects his
01:45:29troops abroad, they are in more danger because of this and they
01:45:32lack credibility because of this, and when he speaks we should be
01:45:36listening, I think the reason why I don't think it's appropriate is...
01:45:40because I don't, I think it's just a bit tasteless
01:45:42really, and I don't, I think it sort of gives the guy who did this what he wants, he wanted to be a
01:45:46marter, and you're kind of marting him, Sebastian, yeah, I agree with everything Linda said, I think
01:45:50this is absolutely grotesque, um, the fact that I grew up in the era
01:45:54where there were al-qaeda um videos that were put out online, my parents were
01:45:58terrified of me going out and finding those and seeing things that I would never be able to
01:46:01unsee, and the fact that if I have children I'm going to
01:46:03have to protect them from content put out by the US government is is
01:46:07horrifying, although I haven't said that there are plenty movies that show it. executions and I'm sort
01:46:11of all right with those Andrew yeah there's a lot of videos some
01:46:13online recently I've
01:46:15and seen they're not nice and I
01:46:19I don't want to see it I don't think it should be something like this should
01:46:23happen in public uh it's a matter for the United States what they do but I
01:46:27think that if someone is going to lose their life because they've committed
01:46:31a horrific crime and I agree with you I'm not against uh
01:46:35the death penalty in principal I think there are some
01:46:38situations punishment, it should be done
01:46:42inside a prison, it shouldn't be done on live television, I don't think that would
01:46:46ever be acceptable in this country, but you know, in America they do things differently,
01:46:50don't they? All right, well thank you for that. All right, stay with us, because coming up, Kenny Benock
01:46:54says that she's ready for a Christmas
01:46:56election.
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01:50:11Okay, let's return to tomorrow's front pages, let's have look at the front cover the
01:50:15mirror. Tiger park horror, oh god, this is
01:50:18awful, apparently this guy actually climbed into the
01:50:21enclosure. um and then obviously the tiger was top of him, it's a
01:50:25male tiger um that um attacked him and apparently this tiger had
01:50:29only recently been put in this zoo and there's a female tiger as
01:50:33well maybe they were getting on and he's just messed it up now by attacking this
01:50:37man he climbed in, he should have done well he just thinks that he's
01:50:41a predator tiger's a predator what he's hungry was eat mean
01:50:45probably the guy i imagine must have some kind of mental
01:50:48health issue or perhaps drugs were involved or something like that?
01:50:52because no one in their right minds, apparently the compound was extremely
01:50:56difficult to get into, no one in the right minds is going to try, well
01:51:00anyway this the front cover the mirror, man dies after he was mowed
01:51:03a Yorkshire uh, the sun also leads with the same story,
01:51:07tiger molels man to death in zoo horror, the Sunday times it
01:51:11leads with it's time to go, Trump tells Zelensky in bitter
01:51:15diesel row and the mail on Sunday, Kenny Beadenock w she's getting
01:51:19all festive is I'm set for an election at.
01:51:24Oh, let's get the thoughts of my panel, journalist and broadcaster Linda Duby, reform
01:51:27UK, Andrew Rosendell, and former labor council Sebastian
01:51:30selek, oh, not getting all excited about an election for
01:51:34Christmas, do you think that Sebastian, do you think that really and needs to
01:51:38start thinking about having that early election? I'd be doing if I were him,
01:51:41um, we've seen this cycle of PM after PM come in and their
01:51:45favorability ratings tank so quickly because we have such an impatient
01:51:49voter base and a sense they're right to be because we've never really recovered. from the
01:51:522008 crisis um and therefore you need that help faster and
01:51:56faster every time, but at the same time every leader is going to be need 5 to 10 years to sort it
01:52:00out, so he needs to buy that time uh probably makes a sense to go to the
01:52:04polls while he's popular, but also by being the biggest party labor by
01:52:08default have their candidates in place because most them are sitting MPs, the tories are
01:52:12selecting theirs now so they're still going through it and the other parties i think are starting to
01:52:16think about it as well, but you have that element of surprise if you go um and you
01:52:20have the infrastructure in place to be able to run a very good. well if Andy Buddham does
01:52:24go at XM and Kevin Backs in her XM suit getting ready for it um
01:52:27will reform UK be ready I can't see it oh absolutely we want an election as soon
01:52:31as possible because the country is desperately need for
01:52:35change uh the country is spiraling downwards under labor the
01:52:38conservatives are hopeless they offer no hope for the future
01:52:41of this country apparently she's the
01:52:45most popular leader right now after the after the conferences everyone seemed to love
01:52:49her she's not unpopular because she's
01:52:53really just chemy isn't she? she's not done anything particularly
01:52:56offensive, but she's saying things,
01:52:59the sound bites are there behind, she doesn't offer this country a way forward,
01:53:02because she was in government for 14 years, she was a minister in the last
01:53:06few governments, i was never a government minister, i was rebellious, i was
01:53:10rebellious backbencher, so kemy was part of that government that left this
01:53:14country in one huge mess, so we need a change, we need new
01:53:17government, the only hope for our country is Nigel Farage in my view
01:53:21and reform. say that, you would say that, linda dubley, what do you think?
01:53:25well, my view has always been at the general election probably going to be
01:53:28next May, because I think it's incredibly hard to run elections in the
01:53:32winter, I mean everything is much more
01:53:35difficult, um, but I can see that Andy Burnham has to
01:53:39act fairly smith, swiftly, because there's not much of a
01:53:43burnham bounce left, there's not much of a window left for
01:53:46him to walk through, certainly can be back, she's not saying
01:53:50Christmas, she's saying be prepared for an... election any point,
01:53:54that's not quite the same as saying Christmas, but certainly
01:53:58her speech at the party conference
01:54:00defined very clearly what the change in strategy
01:54:04is, the fact that she talked about,
01:54:07you know, we're a battle now for the soul the nation and things like that,
01:54:10means that she is on an election footing, but it would surprise
01:54:14me, maybe I'll be completely wrong, it would surprise me if it was
01:54:18as early as Christmas, but also with the green party which are literally
01:54:35disarray because there's some thought that uh their leader is going to
01:54:39have to step down, I mean, and and I don't think that could happen before
01:54:42Christmas, they will need to sort themselves out certainly within the next
01:54:46six months, there will be a leadership challenge there, I
01:54:50think, you see that's the thing, because if you're a lib dem, where would you go,
01:54:54if you don't like a Davy or you don't like your party anymore, then you've got
01:54:58a choice conservative or you're more likely to go to labor, I suspect
01:55:01them leader, and then you've got the greens, where will the greens? go
01:55:05there more likely to go to labor, so if if he's wise and they burden
01:55:09would consider that election, but I think Kemy seems to be
01:55:12piviting a certain direction, she's discarding, she's discarding
01:55:16seats like mine, and she's going for the Kensingtons, Kensington Kemy, her
01:55:20policies now seem to be looking to the middle
01:55:23classes, the the leafy suburbs, and I
01:55:27think that shows that they're discarding
01:55:31a conservative core vote which is now going reform UK, well which was... see shant we
01:55:35other before do seem to be tanking in the pulls. listen, there's a whole load more news to bring you. up
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