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00:00:18of hello, good evening and welcome to gb news, i'm nanar, this is
00:00:22alex armstrong, tonight late edition uh,
00:00:25in we are we do stand full square with Ukraine, we have done since the
00:00:29outbreak. of this war. Russia has
00:00:33already broken President Trump's energy
00:00:35of sease far attacking a Ukrainian power station. As
00:00:38in Boris Johnson blast
00:00:40in sickening Trump deal with Putin, urging the Royal Navy to intercept Russian fuel
00:00:44ships,
00:00:45a plus the benefit, benefits, benefits, benefits, benefits, benefit on
00:00:49benefits,
00:00:50of benefits. The benefit system is failing, the times
00:00:54reveals nearly two million on
00:00:57of sickness benefits are left unchecked,
00:00:59of plus Why do you go when the police, when the police showed up?
00:01:03Why did you leave? Why did you leave when the police showed up? Why did you
00:01:06leave? Why
00:01:07are you running away from me
00:01:10of now? Tourists in London are being scammed by organized migrant groups
00:01:14and the BBC embraad
00:01:17in a strictly trans rout after B Boss's center, a political
00:01:20slogan in the program. Well joining
00:01:23a me this evening,
00:01:27of of former of labor special advisor Paul Richards, political commentator Alice Grant. and former metropolitan
00:01:31police detective Peter Blexley and Trump has
00:01:35gone after Canada, Greenland, and
00:01:37of now a he's after the ocean, so we need river, we need an
00:01:41ocean, so just think of either the Atlantic or the
00:01:44Pacific, we call it Trump
00:01:47Ocean,
00:01:52or or ocean
00:01:56a of the American, something like
00:01:59of that, a
00:02:10Right, welcome. Let's take a look at the front pages. Let's have look at the
00:02:13independent.
00:02:14of Independent a now, independent then or independent then, independent
00:02:18now. Uh, the telegraph,
00:02:20of Putin breaks Trump's ceasefire,
00:02:23of the eye
00:02:24of leads of with tax rises
00:02:25of needed of to plug 35 billion pound gap. UK
00:02:29economist. have warned the
00:02:31in chancellor, the BBC on the front cover
00:02:33of the sun in strictly trans row, the
00:02:37of metro leads with Russia roll in Brexit, the
00:02:40express migrant gang scam
00:02:43a is sign of broken Britain, the star,
00:02:46letis Liz Iceberg ahead, very good, the
00:02:50male Boris Blass, sickening Trump
00:02:52of deal a with Putin, the mirror hero tried to save him, the
00:02:56of story, of really tragic story about a man he went into the Tiger enclosure, the...
00:03:00guardian heat pump subsidy to be cut to fund defence plan. all
00:03:04right, let's get the thoughts of my panel.
00:03:06of let's see what we got here. all right, what should we lead
00:03:09of with?
00:03:09of fancy, do the independent place? yes, let's do the
00:03:11independence, it's
00:03:14a reveling of in self-glory, because it's 40 years
00:03:17old, and so they've chosen their front page today, they
00:03:22of a put 15 incredibly famous people on the front page, none of whom have ever read the
00:03:26independent, which is quite some achievement, yeah.
00:03:30Yeah, 40th anniversary, we we celebrate the thinkers who have inspired and
00:03:33changed the world in that time and give you the chance to be one of
00:03:37our new voices. Well, hey, hey, that's an idea from my show, I have my great
00:03:41British voices, you know
00:03:43a what, happy to see Maggie Thatcher
00:03:45of on there, I mean I'm struggling to
00:03:47in recognize who after these people are, like when the strictly people come out, you have to work out who the
00:03:50celebrities are, it's a bit like that, like
00:03:53in Barack Obama, Maggie, I
00:03:55in see, Elon Musk, I'm running out at that point, else we
00:03:59got. David Bowy, David Bowy, Simon Rusty,
00:04:02Malala, Opera
00:04:04Winfrey, um, who's the lady
00:04:08use messier,
00:04:09of Tracy Emmin, Elon Musk, where is she, oh
00:04:13yeah, I'm winning the bingo here tonight, aren't I, but what, I mean,
00:04:16of this the old lady, this is rather self-congratulatory, I think is a what
00:04:20of in, it certainly is, up itself might be another way, I'm not quite sure what
00:04:24they're trying to achieve with this headline, but there we are, well now Stephen Hawkins is there, they're trying to say that
00:04:28we have been bringing you independent
00:04:31news for the last 40 years and we're celebrating now with some people who
00:04:35were recognizable at the time,
00:04:37of interesting. of all of right, let's have
00:04:38of look at the front page
00:04:39of the telegraph. um, let's have look, should we look at the Putin's cease fire?
00:04:42putin breaks Trump's cease fire, say Russia strikes Ukrainian energy
00:04:46science hours after US president claims
00:04:49a a truce was agreed. this is sort
00:04:51of the same sort of Iran sort of situation we having with Donald Trump where he
00:04:55says there's a seas far and of course there isn't, of course there isn't, at least he's
00:04:58trying. very badly and like
00:05:01poorly, just poor,
00:05:03of poorly, i think he is one
00:05:05of the worst statesman i've actually ever seen in my lifetime, my
00:05:0924 years, but i'm
00:05:11you know compared to... think the actual greats like Reagan, it's just
00:05:15rid ridiculous got
00:05:16to be pretty bad though, who's worse Star or
00:05:19Trump? Well,
00:05:21you know what, I'm a brit, so I'm always going to say Trump is
00:05:24worse, because ultimately I'm British,
00:05:27like the issue with this surely is that you know
00:05:31Putin is waging an imperialist war of
00:05:34conquest right, he's not just he doesn't want to cease far, he wants to
00:05:38destroy and subjugate Ukraine, and you can't negotiate.
00:05:42with that, you have to take it on and defeat it, so the idea
00:05:46you can do deal, this the art the deal is not a real estate in New York
00:05:50deal that Trump seems to think it is,
00:05:53it is geopolitics and he's so Trump is so plainly out of his
00:05:56depth when dealing with these big issues, this is the the
00:06:00consequence, well sorry, yeah no, sorry if
00:06:04i interrupted there Paul, um, i think it's rather ironic that
00:06:08because of course the front page the telegraph and the mail are linked in terms
00:06:11these Ukraine stories -
00:06:15and I find it utterly appalling that
00:06:18Boris Johnson wants to pop up with some hair brain
00:06:22scheme, essentially he was prime minister, was he not
00:06:25when Ukraine got invaded, and if he had been any
00:06:29form of leader then what he would have done is
00:06:33rallied a coalition, not the willing, a coalition
00:06:37the able, and if we'd come together with a large
00:06:40percentage of NATO..." countries for example, and we'd
00:06:44smashed Putin's army back to Moscow and kicked its
00:06:48rear end in the process once it had got back from the territory
00:06:52of Ukraine that it had unlawfully invaded, then none of
00:06:56this would be happening today, none of it would have occurred, but we didn't
00:07:00have any politicians with a spine to take on
00:07:03Putin the day he invaded and send his troops back, well Boris
00:07:07got the spine now on the daily mail where he's no longer in politics, making
00:07:11suggestions. and what should happenly reckless, but can I just say as much
00:07:15as I'd love to believe that we could kick Putin's ass, the
00:07:19point we just we don't, we're not what we used to be, we're not this
00:07:23great empire,
00:07:25you know, we're not a great power, we have very weakened defense, the reality is we don't have enough
00:07:29money, I mean, did you not hear me say rally a
00:07:32coalition the able,
00:07:35so who in in the EU, for example, our closest neighbors would be able, the
00:07:39whole of Europe, after decades of EU mismanagement, yeah, in complete
00:07:42austerity and crisis, NATO, yeah, NATO
00:07:46frequently has operations and exercises
00:07:49and NATO could have put forward a force
00:07:53that would have sent Putin's murderous troops back
00:07:57from whence they came, but we don't have politicians with a
00:08:01spine, but NATO is defensive alliance, they will tell you that, so they're peacekeeping
00:08:04force, they're not really meant to be uh going on the offense, which
00:08:08is what their excuses every time, I said use NATO countries.
00:08:12'and of course we could have had perhaps our friends from America which
00:08:16were under very different leadership at the time, but of course no
00:08:20one, no politician at the spine or even suggest it, let
00:08:24alone put
00:08:24it into action, and if we done that, Putin would have been taught a lesson, we
00:08:28wouldn't have the energy crisis we've got today, and the world would be better,
00:08:32more peaceful place as result of it, I think people thought that Putin might sort of
00:08:36quit, they thought that perhaps they could not appease him but kind
00:08:39of uh work with him and communicate'. with
00:08:42conversation and negotiation, but of course that's not what evidently not, mean i
00:08:46remember,
00:08:48i think they tried that first, trust said some comments i think on like
00:08:51um some radio show and putin came out with like oh i'm just going to nuke the
00:08:55uk, like this man is completely unhinged in in the way he
00:08:59deals with his foreign policy, not to be
00:09:02trusted, i don't think you can you can't obviously negotiate with
00:09:06some kind of you know exactly, so that's why you beat his army back from whence
00:09:10they came, i just don't that doesn't sound practical to me, that doesn't sound sensible to
00:09:14me, well you can be done, because if you look at the fact that it's just a
00:09:18small country, Ukraine that has held off this Russian invasion for what,
00:09:22three, four years, it has developed a war economy, it's developed
00:09:26technology beyond anything we can imagine in the drone technology, the robots that are
00:09:29now, all that Putin is doing is shoving young men into the
00:09:33grinder, increasing numbers including young men from
00:09:36korea and and and and mercenaries and
00:09:40they average life expectance is 19. minutes and Ukraine
00:09:44has managed to stop them in their tracks, which is astonishing
00:09:48military feet given the comparable sizes the countries,
00:09:52and and like Peter says, if we had just properly armed them and allowed them
00:09:56to done it properly, then the Russians would have been sent
00:09:59back, and that's the way you deal with aggressors, you have to stand up to them, you can't appease
00:10:03them, you can't negotiate with them, you have to defeat them, there's been
00:10:07millions, millions of our taxpayers money also poured into Ukraine into
00:10:11defend, and whilst I'm not, you know, 'I just don't know if it's
00:10:15if it's our business to be getting involved in
00:10:16that and this is not because you say it has to be, but I i don't see
00:10:20why our tax payer's money should be diverted to foreign wars that have no effect on
00:10:24us'. does have an effect on us cuz they are trying to undermine our economy and there
00:10:28are examples of sabotage in the UK, they try to fire bomb the prime minister's
00:10:32house you know and they are disrupting our
00:10:35businesses, but I think when you actually
00:10:39really go into the history of Ukraine and Russia, it's such a
00:10:43long, long conflict, it's an independent country that was minding it
00:10:47democracy, it's an independent democracy which has been
00:10:50invaded by an autocratic leader
00:10:54and and of course... 'Ukraine is known as the bread basket of Europe, so
00:10:58much of what we are paying more money for today in our supermarkets
00:11:02is a direct result of this conflict which is
00:11:05needlessly going on and on and on, well of
00:11:09course
00:11:09uh Russia were signatory to Budapest memorandum which uh
00:11:13asked Ukraine to disarm, get rid of all the nuclear weapons and if there was a problem then
00:11:17Russia, I think it was also the UK, Northern Ireland and
00:11:21a couple of other countries would get together, France and America would'. together to
00:11:25protect, but unfortunately um it seems and Russia were part of
00:11:29part of that saying they would protect, but of course they breach that and one outcome has to be
00:11:33Ukraine joining NATO, once the Russians have been defeated Ukraine needs to join
00:11:37NATO, well I mean a lot of people argue that that would that would
00:11:40upset Putin or whatever, but I don't really care, I think Ukraine sovereign nation, they should do
00:11:44what they wanted, if they want this cowardly attitude towards upset
00:11:48Putin,
00:11:49I mean what cuz he's got nukes, stand up to the man,
00:11:53it's the only way you deal with bullies. is by standing up to
00:11:56him, not cow towing to him, and definitely not cowtowing, I just think I take
00:12:00a very sensible and practical approach, which is based on what I've plainly seen in
00:12:04conflict throughout history, doesn't end well for anybody, and I don't want
00:12:08British lives being lost at the front line of a conflict, which doesn't
00:12:12affect us, well the alternative could be worse, and we don't know what what to do about that, but the
00:12:16Metro also leads Russia rolling Brexit again more on Russia,
00:12:19and Addie Burnham said that there is clear evidence that Russia interfered
00:12:23in the... is it vote, he said that he had asked if the
00:12:27Kremlin had medaled in the 2016 referendum when he
00:12:31uh entered number 10 in July and was given the clear answer that
00:12:35yes there was
00:12:36is believed to be the first time PM has confirmed Vladimir Putin tried to influence the
00:12:40vote all this
00:12:41okay I mean look election
00:12:43hear interference I and all of that and I think yeah but it's probably happening
00:12:46the other way around as during the well Brexit
00:12:48remember but I we were we were given uh
00:12:51flyers e I think the government spent £8 million pounds to tell us 'we
00:12:55should stay in the EU, so there's interference from all sides and it was down to the
00:12:59individuals to make up their minds what they wanted and what they thought, I think it's a
00:13:02bit, I think it's a bit much thinking that we were all
00:13:05persuaded by Russia, it's it's obviously, it's a
00:13:09joke, but when the result is so finely balanced as being
00:13:13a few percentage points either way, the
00:13:16briefing that he's describing is the one you get when you become the prime minister and
00:13:20the security service sits you down and talks you through the threats
00:13:24that are being faced by this nation, so that's what he's
00:13:27referring to, and he is telling us, he is telling us that the
00:13:31Russians, according to our security services interfered in that Brexit
00:13:35vote, now I agree with Peter, I want to see the evidence for that, because that is a big
00:13:39big claim, it certainly fits in with the bigger picture of Russia's interference in all the other
00:13:43things we're doing, including our businesses and NHS and everything else, these
00:13:46massive hacking factories they have, and all the stuff being pumped into our social
00:13:50media, but I want to see the evidence, but it is serious
00:13:53threat, them and they said yes, like if you ask them, they will say
00:13:57yes, of course they going to say yes, even, I mean, I'm sure they did try and interfere, but
00:14:01they're always interfering in all sorts of things, and I guess we probably do the same on other fronts,
00:14:05I just, I don't know whether I don't think that would have made difference to the
00:14:09outcome. At the end the day, um, Burnham is now a position
00:14:13whereby his judgment will be called into question, and of course
00:14:17senior politicians, particularly prime ministers, judgment is
00:14:21very, very important thing, Paul is right that of course.
00:14:25security services brief our prime ministers, but it's not like they've got
00:14:28an unblemished record, is it? let's all think about
00:14:32Iraq for example, and a war that we shouldn't have got
00:14:35into, um, so we will have to see
00:14:39what uh burnham's judgment capabilities are
00:14:42like, will be interesting, won't it, but yes,
00:14:46so even if they did interfere, I'm not sure it would have affected the outcome,
00:14:50and there's interference in all sorts of things, I mean someone may have had a coffee that
00:14:53interfered with the way the... thinking and then
00:14:57you in the end there are so many things that interfere
00:15:01of thinking what you've had for breakfast whether you've eaten or not in the
00:15:05end i just think what what they said something on social media oh i'm going to go along with that
00:15:09cuz i've eaten a quason and i feel my stomach bloated
00:15:12now i don't know i just
00:15:14i don't think it made difference to the yeah all i see is that i'm really like this
00:15:18sort of headlines is quite strikes me is quite sinister because we all know that the
00:15:21political establishment are desperate to try to kind of
00:15:25get us back into the EU whichever way they can, and quite
00:15:28frankly, this is propaganda to my mind, having a massive headline, Russia roll
00:15:32in Brexit, I mean we had vote, yes, as you said, Paul, it was
00:15:36finely balanced. but the people made it very clear as to
00:15:40what that mandate was and in 2019 Boris
00:15:43basically stood a Brexit election um
00:15:47manifesto and it was get Brexit done and he
00:15:50got stunking majority so I think that really shows you that the appatite for
00:15:53Brexit never left all right let's have look at this one on the sun
00:15:57front cover the sun bosses census slogan in
00:16:01vid yeah the BBC instructed transban Raw
00:16:05okay so this is this is about the BBC that in bro a censorship row
00:16:09after they edited out t-shirt slogan worn by
00:16:12strictly star Bethany and Tonia. Now the actress
00:16:1628 was seen a rehearsals video wearing a
00:16:19protected the dolls top in support of trans women,
00:16:23but then uh it turned after the BBC blanked
00:16:27it out the Saturday's uh show, so of course they blanked out something that was in
00:16:31promotion promoting trans - protect the
00:16:34dolls, I mean in support of trans women. obviously just
00:16:38took that out because they weren't having that, what, what, but they always do this, don't they, they if you go
00:16:42on TV with a political slogan, they'll they'll not allow it,
00:16:46I remember people appearing top the pops with political slogans and they had to put
00:16:50gaffer tape over them, the acts did before going on the tele cuz the
00:16:54BBC doesn't like that sort of thing, so I think that's the context for this, it's not
00:16:57specifically to do with trans, just to do with political slogans, well yeah, but it's
00:17:01but it's in support of trans women, so that is sort of a political slogan
00:17:05given given what's going on, the dolls is a political slogan that's why they're saying it
00:17:09shouldn't have the BBC is saying yeah well I
00:17:12mean protect the dolls I didn't even realize that was
00:17:16is that pro trans women so men
00:17:19men so pro men I don't want to see that
00:17:23on tv and no one else no one wants to be lectured I think everyone's sick
00:17:27of being having political messages thrown in their faces when some people just want to
00:17:31relax and watch strictly so they're right
00:17:33to do that of course but she was just wearing it for
00:17:34the rehearsal though I mean you know still what do
00:17:36you think Peter? the star - the sun rather, the sun, please forgive
00:17:40me, does some wonderful journalism, this is not a part
00:17:44of that, but you see, i am old enough to
00:17:48remember an expression, which don't worry, i've cleaned it up for you, when you if
00:17:52somebody was hypothesizing about something, you would sort of take the
00:17:56mickey or by what they were saying, you say yeah right, and if me
00:18:00aunt had testicles she'd be me uncle, yeah, okay, you all get the gist of
00:18:04what it meant right, but now of course you can't really use that phrase can you? because your
00:18:08aunt could have testicles and be your uncle or the other way around. it's
00:18:11a confusing landscape for an old block like me these days. very confusing, it's
00:18:15actually the reality is it's straightforward. look, i i don't care that they
00:18:19blank this out. if there are political messages then i think they should do that. i think finally
00:18:23they did something that was the right thing to do. i'm just surprised about the bbc
00:18:26honestly. i'm surprised leave it in there. do you mean just because because
00:18:30the way they are? i'm more worried of fact i don't know any the people in streetly
00:18:34are. i alone in this? who are these celebrities? They
00:18:38seems to be the sons and the daughters of famous people, yeah, and load
00:18:42of other people I've never heard of. Don't worry, you'll recognize me next
00:18:47we year, we're
00:18:47well we longing for that day obviously, I'm probably the wrong kind of black,
00:18:51sadly can you dance though, got some
00:18:54moves, Anna swims,
00:18:57dances, I want to see, what can peter
00:19:01do? American smooth, dancing, oh, there are no
00:19:04limits, there are no limits, I'd love to see Peter. literally no start
00:19:08to your
00:19:09but my dancing ability is inherently linked to the amount
00:19:12of alcohol and nana for
00:19:16strictly yeah all right well stay with us because coming up
00:19:20the benefit system failing the times reveals nearly two
00:19:23million on sickness benefits are left unchecked and in the ipaper
00:19:27warning of tax rises to come as John Healey scrambles to find
00:19:31funds to plug 35 billion pounds this
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00:22:52let's have look at tomorrow's front pages, let's have look at the times, it
00:22:56leads with almost two million on sickness benefit may not
00:23:00qualify, wow and the eye paper leads with the
00:23:04tax rises needed to plug the 35 billion pound gap, UK
00:23:08economists worn uh okay and there's a bit more
00:23:12as well
00:23:12but let's get the thoughts of uh my panel tonight uh
00:23:16should we start with what i say the times almost 2 million
00:23:20on sickness benefit may not qualify,
00:23:24well, well, well, so ministers are paying out sickness
00:23:27benefits to almost two million people without knowing whether they
00:23:31still qualify. now that is no surprise to me at all,
00:23:34i don't suppose lot of you are surprised by that as well, um, that's a times
00:23:38investigation which is revealing that, more than two-thirds of claiments who
00:23:41said who should be reassessed have not yet been
00:23:45seen, the average weight is more than two years
00:23:48and one person has been waiting for 16 years,
00:23:52according to the department for work and pensions, the DWP, according to
00:23:56their records. Well, well, well, I'll come to you, Paul,
00:24:00Richards, well, absolute shocker, really, it is an absolute shocker, I mean the
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00:24:10the 20s and 30s because of you know the trade cycle, right, it's not supposed to
00:24:14be lifestyle choice for millions of people to
00:24:18not work, it's supposed
00:24:19to be there, to pick you up if you fall into hard times on your way back into
00:24:23a job and we have to get back to the idea that this is something that you can dip
00:24:27into if you've paid into it uh but the presumption is if you can
00:24:31work you do and we seem to have lost that but i think the current cropper
00:24:35ministers do seem to be recognizing for both moral
00:24:38reasons but also financial reasons that we can't afford this kind
00:24:42of thing where there are millions and millions of people who are not being productive anyway shape or
00:24:46form and we were discussing earlier about the need for growth in the economy you got
00:24:50to get people working in whatever they can do uh
00:24:54and paying their taxes and being productive and getting them off these kinds of this
00:24:58long years and years and it's
00:25:00a gravy train well
00:25:01i don't think it's it's not massives of money but it just means that
00:25:05million people people
00:25:05two it means that people can just sort of subs you know be subsistence for
00:25:09for decades two million people shouldn't apply qualify
00:25:13for welfare paid it and somebody here has been waiting for 16 years
00:25:17which is disgraceful which means that if you can work you should but you need people need
00:25:21help so they do need the skills because there's also new jobs now that people can't
00:25:24do and they need um they need you know maybe some sanctions as well and
00:25:28a bit of a carrot and stick approach but there need to be jobs there too for people
00:25:32but you can't just this is not sustainable I note with interest paul that
00:25:36you said ministers are waking up to this what about those lefty
00:25:40lunatic back benches that will thwart any kind of welfare
00:25:44reform a prime minister or any other minister tries to push through well
00:25:47they they did thought the ones that Liz can't
00:25:50what attempted to do under Starmer, but I think there's a different mood now because the
00:25:53numbers, the figure the financial figures being so different and the recognition this just has to
00:25:57be, there has to be a grip go on this, we should see, I mean the
00:26:01government will founder without. growth the government will founder you know that is the that's the
00:26:05load stuff. i wish those in public service scandal. mean, our
00:26:09welfare state is already on the brink of like complete destruction because of
00:26:13abuse, and to read these kind of headlines and
00:26:16understand that these people are still being paid out with with literally no
00:26:20idea whether they're in fact eligible, is really making a mockery of all the
00:26:24taxpayers and all the hard-working people who are frankly, what are we being
00:26:28taken advantage of effectively by the state? mean, this is an absolute, this is a
00:26:31scandal. and
00:26:34you know the sooner this is, I mean to be to be paying to be having ideas of net zero
00:26:38and all these ridiculous policies coming from from
00:26:41labor when there are real things that they could actually be solving,
00:26:45and of course it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy of
00:26:49disaster, because the more people on benefits, you've only got
00:26:53a finite number of those who will check them, and the more
00:26:56they the
00:26:57more claiments there are, the less
00:26:59the those who are tasked with checking them can reach out and do I...
00:27:02he wish was everybody asked. in public service in this country, from the prime
00:27:06minister, to civil service, to everybody across all public
00:27:09services, I wish they would look after the
00:27:13country's finances and their budgets as carefully as me and
00:27:17my wife look after our domestic budgets, well just to your
00:27:20point um ales where you were talking about everybody so many people being
00:27:24on benefits and the government coming up with hair brain schemes, was treeting came up with
00:27:28an idea for space,
00:27:32lbc now I mean unbelievable by when Nick Ferrari, so how much is it going to cost? he went, oh,
00:27:36and he didn't know, he hadn't even, so he said, well, just give us an idea, if you want the tax
00:27:40payer to fund this, how much is it going, you've got me,
00:27:44I usually get the answer, this time you got me, it's like, this isn't a catch
00:27:48streating out, this is point of order that we're making to you, that if you
00:27:52want to come up with these hair brain schemes, you need to know how much they cost, if you're going to dish out
00:27:56money like this, you need to know who you're dishing it out to, and once again we're
00:28:00spending money for old rope, because most these people. probably don't qualify, shouldn't
00:28:03be on the list, and we've been paying for years, no, and
00:28:06you know what, this winter there are going to be lot of old people, lot of elderly vulnerable people who are
00:28:10going to be in crisis because of gas prices and lack of
00:28:13heating and cost of living, and you know, and if
00:28:17that, I mean, I would almost be funny about the space thing if it
00:28:21wasn't like that people's lives are on the line here, and you
00:28:24know, stimulate the economy, we need people in work, you don't do that
00:28:28by putting them a vicious cycle where they can basically effectively earn more, from
00:28:32welfare benefits and they can a job, but that's the state of things.
00:28:36yeah,
00:28:37it is the state of things. i think we have to go, should go quickly to the eye and
00:28:41then, but i want to go to the guardian, the met police, a met chief
00:28:44backs drive for more black officers. so this is a
00:28:48story where um metropolitan police chief Mark
00:28:52Rowy has said that his force must recruit more black and
00:28:56Asian officers to gain the trust of minority ethnic communities
00:29:00in London and voud not to be blown off. by culture
00:29:03wars, the right has criticized police strives for diversity claiming that
00:29:07they lead to lower standards really said that as a leader of
00:29:11major organization, he was prepared to take a stand against
00:29:15toxicity surrounding diversity debate and criticized other
00:29:18leaders for running away from the subject and just to give you a little
00:29:22bp here, he said that in London 46% the
00:29:25people um uh in London 46% of
00:29:29people but only 18% of met officers are from minority ethnic
00:29:33backgrounds, so Peter Blexley, um, it's sort of trying equalize
00:29:37each county, I mean, it's it, I don't, I find it a bit absurd really, I thought
00:29:41I'd entered a time capsule, this is headline that has been
00:29:44trailed just about every decade I can remember, going back to the
00:29:4870s, 70s, 80s, 90s and so on and so forth, and it's
00:29:52never been achieved by policing, now it's
00:29:56all well and good for him to say it, and it might be loudible aim, but as long
00:30:00as there are certain communities that really inherently don't like
00:30:04the police, you are not going to welcome those people into
00:30:08it, well and also if you're uh forces kind of um
00:30:12overwhelmed with things like misogyny and homophobia and other bits and pieces,
00:30:15especially the sexism, racis and everything else like that, if
00:30:19if
00:30:20it were me I'd say well deal with that first mate, deal with that and then maybe people
00:30:24from those groups will want to join, but if you can't deal with that,
00:30:27then I mean why would anyone want to join something that is is gripped in all
00:30:31sorts of nonsense and met have made strides on that, I was
00:30:35in the police in dark days when racism was compulsory,
00:30:39let alone a part the organization, well um and of course it's moved
00:30:42on an enormous amount since then and certain people
00:30:46deserve credit along the way, but um I'm
00:30:50afraid as long as Mark Roley, let's remember this is the
00:30:53commissioner that refused to accept that the Metropolitan police
00:30:57was institutionally racist, he refused to accept that
00:31:01definition. I think because he doesn't
00:31:04understand it, now for him to come out with
00:31:07this, well do, I will push back on that cuz
00:31:11I don't believe things are institutionally or structurally racist, I think. the
00:31:15individuals within the organization that should actually be held to account because I think as soon as you
00:31:19blame a structure or institution or then then you are
00:31:22absolving those and giving them excuse for their racism so I i don't
00:31:26agree with that
00:31:27I think individuals are racist
00:31:28if an organization enables or allows that then all those within that organization
00:31:32should
00:31:32be held up and made accountable and then you won't have an organization full of
00:31:36racists buse that's what it is really uh the met's not full of
00:31:39racist explaining structural or institutional
00:31:43racism that's what that is I'm not saying is yeah, but institutional structural
00:31:46racism is basically an organization that is full of racis and that's why you would
00:31:50say that it's not that uh, but the truth is that I don't believe in institutional
00:31:54structural racist, they're just individuals within an organization being racist and
00:31:58being allowed to be what is special I think about our policing in this
00:32:02country is that is citizens in uniform and we police by
00:32:06consent, those are the peelight principles on which is it's not a state-run
00:32:09thing, they're not routinely armed, they're not a sort of uniform
00:32:13paramilitary uh are there because we allow it to happen,
00:32:17right? that's how policing works. um, and I think therefore the argument is
00:32:21that the police force should look like the citizenry that it is policing
00:32:24itself, I am glad we
00:32:28have moved beyond where we were and I could remember the 70s where the police
00:32:31force 98% of it white, policing
00:32:34communities that were not, and I think you do need to have reflection
00:32:38of society in the policing, but of course it shouldn't be at the expense of
00:32:42getting the best people in the job and it should be a supportive. if want to come in, but
00:32:46then be equal within the service, so that people have trust in the service,
00:32:50because it's all about consent, but part of getting the best people in the job is to get people who aren't
00:32:54racist, so it wouldn't matter what color they are, they just shouldn't be racist,
00:32:57misogenis, homophobes, do
00:32:59you know what i mean if you could do that then you it will naturally those
00:33:02within those categories
00:33:03as well, but that thrives within a monoculture doesn't it, which is why you need to have the
00:33:07police force looking like society, but that would happen if you had the best people for the
00:33:11job, because you get the people who aren't racist and all those things so you'd end up with a
00:33:15force of of great people rather than a force of people who just
00:33:19i don't making up the numbers, yeah, mean i don't remember the 70s,
00:33:22but the line from mark rowly that
00:33:26effective policing depends on inclusivity, i think just strikes me is
00:33:30completely odd and just rubbish. exactly, i don't think we should sacrifice as you
00:33:34said, meritocratic qualities, well make someone good for a job isn't
00:33:38the color their skin, it's it's whether they are actually
00:33:41competent, and as you said if they are competent they very...
00:33:45likely not going to be discriminatory types of people, and that is
00:33:48who I i want policing, that is who I want to the street. I really don't care about your
00:33:52skin color, I want you to be good at your job and I want to feel safe in your hands,
00:33:56and unfortunately,
00:33:57you know, whatever initiatives are being thrown about that, I,
00:34:01I'm sure many Londoners would agree that's not quite the case, just get the best people for the job
00:34:05who aren't the sort of people you're recruiting now, some them - have all those
00:34:09negative qualities and eventually it'll all even itself out, that's what I see
00:34:13uh, but it's down to I guess. i don't i don't agree with the positive
00:34:16discrimination, i think it's unfortunate, it ends up with low quality people
00:34:20just for the sake the fact that they're certain color and we don't want that. all right, coming
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00:38:35good evening, welcome back to Alex Armstrong tonight late edition. I'm Nana
00:38:38Aqueer. Right, joining
00:38:40me now. um, oh, yes, ahead the day show live. At midnight is GB
00:38:44News's Ben Leo. Uh, Ben, what's coming up
00:38:47tonight? Hey, I hope you're well. Hello to
00:38:51viewers and listeners. Uh, coming up at midnight is Andy
00:38:55Burnham. He's been doing the rounds recently. 24 hours, hasn't he? I wonder what he's trying
00:38:59to distract everybody from, maybe something to do with the UAE and Manchester,
00:39:03but that's just my opinion. um, Burnham has come out and
00:39:06spoken about the public executions taking place here in the United States,
00:39:10one being the former army major who was responsible for the Forthood
00:39:14murders. he gun down 13 US military personnel at Forthod in Texas
00:39:18in 2009. he's now being put to death by firing squad
00:39:22um on December the 3rd, which Pete Hegseff, the Secretary of War said would be
00:39:26live streamed for. world to see um, I mean, the death penalty
00:39:30debate is one thing, but whether
00:39:31it should be live streamed or not, is another conversation altogether, but Andy Burnham has
00:39:35come out and given his opinion both on the death penalty and
00:39:39separately, the facts that this execution will be live streamed for the
00:39:42world's um interest, so uh, I won't reveal what his answer
00:39:46is on both those topics of conversation, but uh, at 12
00:39:50o'clock I will reveal his quite in-depth comments actually, and his
00:39:54reasoning behind his stance elsewhere tonight,
00:39:58Russian interference, Bernham again, again, I wonder what he's distracting from, I don't know, but he's
00:40:02talking about Russian interference in Brexit, we heard it here in the United States
00:40:06with President Trump's first term in 2016 onwards, the Russia collusion hoaxes,
00:40:10all the nonsense about um Trump being uh, how do I
00:40:13describe this at this hour, um, up to no good with Russian prostitutes in
00:40:17Moscow, complete lies, complete bs, it's the Russia, Russia, Russia, hoax
00:40:21again, I'd like to see Andy Burnham's proof that Russia interfered in the
00:40:252016 election uh, taken 10 years for somebody even
00:40:29mention this for the first time, and even if they did, potentially with
00:40:32bots or something
00:40:33like that, which could be feasible, no more, I'd argue than the likes the European
00:40:37Union or the Obama administration interfering in the Brexit vote all
00:40:41those years ago, so all that and more uh coming up after midnight, nana,
00:40:45yeah, looking forward to it, thank you very much, ben leo, late show live stay with us for that, thank
00:40:49you, all right, let's take a look at tomorrow's front pages, well the telegraph
00:40:53leads with Megan Markel, first public appearance, she's back, she's
00:40:56managed to... get
00:40:58the get on the front cover of that one and the mail uh and the mirror hero tried to
00:41:01save him of course that's about the the tiger situation that poor gentleman he's
00:41:05more by the tiger all right let's do it let's take a look at megan markle she wants us to
00:41:09anyway i don't know why um they're telling us that she went
00:41:13out
00:41:16she she went out people uh apparently her first public
00:41:19appearance um in collaboration with April Winfrey's
00:41:23charity mom's offering on the move or offering
00:41:26move or offering. think it is buse my i can't read through these glasses but
00:41:30anyway so she's there again on the front page i mean they
00:41:34went off they didn't really like this country they've come out with load of documentaries that
00:41:38slayed the royal family and indeed -
00:41:42our wonderful queen Elizabeth um died with that whole sort of
00:41:46racism thing above her and then Harry goes out and speaks to Tom Bradvery
00:41:50and says racism what racism the people
00:41:52I no one racist it was unconscious bias oh god I don't know
00:41:56really Nanna you are so
00:41:59disparaging Mega Markel dared
00:42:02to face the autumn chill a hoodie
00:42:06and she pulled a funny face and stuck her sort of mouth. a
00:42:10rather strange position when the photographer took
00:42:13her picture, will this woman get off our front
00:42:16pages out of our news and out of our lives?
00:42:20the answer to my own question is no, cuz they need to make
00:42:24living somehow, don't they? and by pedling their
00:42:27own tarnished brand, this is what we have
00:42:31to suffer. yeah, well surely alice is a fan of
00:42:35of mega mark, you're a young person, truly you, you're drinking the
00:42:38coolaid. much prefer maggie thatcher as my hero to Megan
00:42:42Mark. I mean it's just ridiculous and I think there's a point to be made about why they're still trying to
00:42:46make her relevant because frankly I don't think my generation and I'm
00:42:49densi find her particularly interesting or
00:42:52insightful
00:42:54and so really like
00:42:55I wonder
00:42:55to as to who exactly the they're appealing to here because I think everyone sort
00:42:59of moved on with their lives. You got anything to
00:43:03say about this well when when she joined the royal family I did for moment
00:43:07think she might be a bit of a breath of freshher. 'you might be quite good than the
00:43:11institution needed a bit of freshening up perhaps
00:43:14but mean oh my gosh
00:43:15no longer is she's gone down the pair them have gone down this rabbit
00:43:19hole now where they just have to keep pumping publicity out to remain
00:43:23relevant to keep their income up and to keep in the public eye but mean
00:43:26why have two newspapers decided to put this on the front page
00:43:30you on the brink of world war ii there's also sort of things going on with man city
00:43:34and tigers and god why are two papers of record
00:43:38this woman on the front because is a massive revelation
00:43:42contained within no, it's a massive revelation, if
00:43:46you look at the picture the other way up, you can see that the slogan on her
00:43:49sleeve says it's the little things, which may be
00:43:53reference to her husband's nether regions, no come on, that's not
00:43:57fair on harry, come on, he what did was it the eight hour cream he used and put it in the oh
00:44:01god i don't want to think about that megan mark was not here to defend herself to be fair to
00:44:05us so you let's move on let's move to the tiger attack a
00:44:08horror park a hero tried to save him, this is
00:44:12very, very tragic story, woman desperately tried to pull back
00:44:16the uh tragic man who climbed into a tiger pen, a witness has
00:44:20revealed a zoo goer said that the hero was not strong enough to stop the
00:44:24man jumping into the exclosure in doncaster where he was killed by the
00:44:28siberian tiger altai uh they said that the man pulled
00:44:31away and dropped um 12
00:44:35feet adding that he started yelling at the tiger and waving his finger at
00:44:39him yelling and the tiger grabbed him by the neck. York
00:44:42wildlife park, which was closed yesterday after Saturday's attack said as
00:44:46sympathies uh remain with the loved ones the man who lost his
00:44:50life. It's very sad. I mean, it used to be that the cages were
00:44:53there to stop the animals getting out, but now they have to be there to stop people getting in, and
00:44:57that is the danger. People are, I mean, I don't want to speculate about this
00:45:01man's motives, but I I suspect he was not necessarily right in the
00:45:05head, and we need to construct a ways to stop people doing this as copy
00:45:09cat because.
00:45:10'i mean it's just terrific and his poor family must be just thinking, how on
00:45:13earth was this allowed to happen? yeah, i think if you know, if this was
00:45:17someone i was related to, obviously
00:45:20you know he's probably not most most mentally stable person, but
00:45:24why wasn't there someone on guard there with some kind of weapon that could that could
00:45:28prevent this attack from from taking his life? i don't know whether i
00:45:32think it was quite quick really, you know, like by the sounds of it, he waved
00:45:36his finger and then the tiger grabbed him by
00:45:38the all your essential'. are there? yeah, there should always be someone, I think or
00:45:42some kind of may, you know, someone there to to prevent this kind of thing from happening
00:45:46emergency situations, because it's a man here, but
00:45:48what if it was a small child who made a mistake who accidentally, over
00:45:51got this
00:45:52tipped thing, but this is the thing that has to, there should be someone there, all right, well loads more
00:45:56still to come uh, last look at tomorrow's front pages, this is alex armstrong tonight, late
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00:48:40listen and find out what independence means to them. When I started age
00:48:44care
00:48:44it wasn't to be as big as it is now. I just wanted to make sure my grandma had safe
00:48:48bathroom and that's me and my grandma. I'm making difference to someone's
00:48:51life. It's just a great feeling. B: I'm just going to show the camera crew, the new bathroom,
00:48:55independence for them, peace of mind for the family, but really we're just
00:48:59trying to treat everyone like it's my
00:49:01grandma.
00:49:10Welcome back to Alex Armstrong tonight Late edition with me Nannaqueir. We were
00:49:14talking about the story on the mirror hero tried to save him. This is the story the
00:49:18horror attack at the tiger part Peter Blexley. Um, I'm not going
00:49:22to... judge this because of course the investigation is still ongoing,
00:49:26however what I will say from very personal perspective is
00:49:29once upon a time I had a catastrophic mental health
00:49:32breakdown which led to me being hospitalized as result of
00:49:36it. during that mental health breakdown I did things that I would
00:49:40never have dreamed of doing before or since they just happened in the midst
00:49:44of that catastrophic bow of ill health that I went
00:49:48through um whatever my thoughts are with the uh those who
00:49:51loved them. who's lost his life? yeah, very, very sad
00:49:55indeed. all right, what we look at? final story uh, there's a man
00:49:58city story that's on the the uh top the
00:50:01express, victory in the face of cheat thorns, now you can
00:50:05tell me more about this, can't you Paul? well, there was a moment I think today when every
00:50:09football fan in the land was Liverpool just temporarily, wanting to
00:50:13see City lose, no, because they cheated
00:50:17their way to their position where they are, they cheated, and they have
00:50:21to suffer the consequences. can not have a situation where you can do this and
00:50:25then prosper from it. you see, do you got football
00:50:28regularly pool? not regularly, few times a season, right? and who do you support? manchester
00:50:32united? right? okay, well let me just point out to you
00:50:35fundamentally that not everybody a day was a Liverpool fan,
00:50:39i spec there's a huge number of everton fans would never be a Liverpool fan,
00:50:43i would never support Liverpool anyway shape or f and my
00:50:47dislike of that club goes back to 1976 and clearly
00:50:51I still haven't got... it bause they be for the leak anyway um moving
00:50:55on yeah let's just unfortunately the
00:50:58premiership is in the grip of kind of
00:51:01inertia because the sanctions need to be applied to man city
00:51:05before the whole game of high-end football can move yeah just
00:51:09quickly bontaines dc the best band their
00:51:13generation silence from the
00:51:16panel fontaines dc who the hell are
00:51:19they irish?
00:51:24i think the blossoms are better, i've never heard
00:51:28them, must be really old, mean they've
00:51:32got
00:51:32some good tunes, but the best band of all time new song marianne
00:51:36just dropped, yeah i should look forward to seeing
00:51:40or listening to that, fontain
00:51:42dc spotify on your way home
00:51:46now, probably quite a good good song, other download
00:51:50platforms are available, are they i've never heard of? so absolutely,
00:51:53absolutely, but what should we what should we finish this off with?
00:51:57um, should we go for helium spine 35 billion
00:52:01a happy note? where should heley get the money from? all right 'well we were
00:52:05saying this earlier, but most government departments are wasting money on stuff that they don't need
00:52:09to spend on, I said there are savings within the system you can
00:52:13generate, and I think he's somebody's made his reputation on saying I
00:52:17want to increase defense expenditure, he's going to have to deliver that over the next few
00:52:20years, um, maybe it not be in this budget because the tight money that's
00:52:24described there, um, maybe not even the spending review, but we are going to have
00:52:28to get our defense expenditure up to the NATO target, you've got
00:52:32about 10 seconds, well this is the thing, where is the money going to come from,
00:52:36mean the can we start with maybe axing these ridiculous policies like
00:52:40net zero and say that would be good, how much
00:52:44money i wonder the government spend on special
00:52:46advisers? it's our money, it's our
00:52:49money, not that much, not that much, i'm
00:52:53both every penny, if you're a politician and you get to very high office then
00:52:57why do you need special advisors exactly, well i've got on that bombshell, thank
00:53:01you very much for my brilliant panel, former labor advisor paul richards uh
00:53:06Former and Alice, oh,
00:53:07I forgot to surname because they've taken, they've done something. All right, well listen, up next it
00:53:11is, leo.
00:53:15Thank you very much. Andy Burnham is distracting us from something,
00:53:19I don't what
00:53:20it could be, maybe is it the Everton score, is it his haircut, I don't
00:53:23know, he wants us to look away at something, and that's why he's been doing the media
00:53:27rounds. Most notably he's spoken out about the death penalty, and indeed the
00:53:31case here in the United States the former army major who's been put to firing. which
00:53:35is going to be live streamed by the pentagon, all his comments burn and where does he stand on the death
00:53:39penalty? does he agree with the live stream? all that coming up in just
00:53:42tick.
00:53:50expect warm spells with the odd rude
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00:54:24eastern parts the UK turning chilly before the cloud and rain
00:54:28arrise from the west here, temperatures rising through the nights
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00:54:43hillfog in places, limited brightness across the east though,
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00:55:24breaks or some sunny spells trying to move through, but most of us it will be
00:55:28cloudy but much milder. temperatures in the high teens for most
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00:55:35any sunshine, heavy rain in the northwest, monday night will push
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