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00:01:14of in of of Hello, good evening, it's 9 o'clock, I'm nanat in for
00:01:18Alex Armstrong. Tonight, why did you go when the police,
00:01:22when the police showed up,
00:01:23a why of did of you leave? Why
00:01:24in did you leave when the police showed up? Why did you leave? Why are you running away from me
00:01:28now? Driving away.
00:01:30of Tourists of in London are
00:01:31of being scammed by organized migrant groups, plus behind
00:01:35these gates, foreign criminals are being trained on how to
00:01:39become British
00:01:40in citizens. of Britain needs
00:01:43a to a
00:01:43of tuffen up on foreign criminals
00:01:46a and uh we are we do stand full square with Ukraine, we have done since
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00:01:51of outbreak of of this war. The
00:01:54in UK stands with
00:01:55of President Zelensky following Donald Trump's calls for him to be ousted,
00:01:59of plus the... Prime minister is pushing plans to scrap photo, id
00:02:03in checks at elections, and speaking of
00:02:06of elections, well I'm going to rule it out, yeah, there's no early general election, I don't think people want
00:02:10it, you
00:02:11of
00:02:12of know, well despite ruling it
00:02:14a out of both Kemy Badnock and Naja Faranch are readying their party for
00:02:18a snap
00:02:19a general election,
00:02:21of also tonight are MPs opening
00:02:25the
00:02:25of door for police to be
00:02:30of of of in of of sued, Well stay with me because on my panel tonight, former labor special advisor Paul
00:02:34Richards, political commentator Alice Grant, and former
00:02:38Metropolitan police detective
00:02:40me Peter
00:02:40of Blexley.
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00:02:47of
00:02:51of of And Donald Trump has gone after
00:02:55Canada, Greenland, and now he's after the ocean. So
00:02:59we need
00:02:59of river with. need an ocean, so you think it of either the Atlantic or the
00:03:04of Pacific, of we call it Trump ocean,
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00:03:10of or or ocean
00:03:17in of the American, something like that,
00:03:23Britain needs to touffen up on foreign criminals, there
00:03:26of are more than
00:03:31a in 10,000 foreign nationals currently sitting. in our presence, a study
00:03:32a last of year found that they are costing you
00:03:34of and us and me, the taxpayer
00:03:36of around
00:03:37of 643 million pounds a year. now that's the
00:03:40equivalent of
00:03:42of 15,000 new police officers salaries. no wonder our prisons
00:03:46are at breaking
00:03:47of point, but it gets worse. it turns out that the prisons housing
00:03:51these criminals could actually be helping them stay in
00:03:54Britain.
00:03:55a behind me of these gates, a foreign criminals are being trained on how to
00:03:59become British citizens: Yes, this is jail
00:04:03exclusively for foreign prisoners and in the library
00:04:06of paid for by the taxpayer are books on how to pass
00:04:10the British citizenship
00:04:13in test. Books are being
00:04:15in provided, brought, bought with the taxpayers
00:04:18of money of that of could help foreign
00:04:19of criminals pass the British citizenship test.
00:04:22in HMP Madestone refused to remove the books and practice papers
00:04:25specifically designed to help foreign prisoners prepare for
00:04:29of the
00:04:29of life. the
00:04:30in UK test, now that's the key stepping stone to becoming a British
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00:04:35in citizen. the president's
00:04:36a governor has refused also to remove these materials from the library, but even when the
00:04:40government does manage to deport
00:04:41in them, in they go in comfort. the sun reports that
00:04:45of jail inspectors have demanded that criminals be removed from this country,
00:04:49should not be handcuff because it's too upsetting for the
00:04:52offenders and illegal migrants, give your heads a
00:04:55of wobble seriously, there are people who have broken
00:05:01of of the of law and... independent monitoring board report seen by the
00:05:02of in sun of reportedly claimed that using restraints during transfers
00:05:07of causes of significant stress and anguish, and this is despite
00:05:11in repeated reports of
00:05:12in detention officer. of being assaulted when trying to remove these
00:05:15people, no, no, helping them stay,
00:05:19no soft treatment, no more excuses, it's time to get tough on
00:05:23foreign criminals, deport them, stop spending taxpayers money, helping them
00:05:27become British, and stop treating their feelings as more important
00:05:31than the safety the public and the officers doing their job,
00:05:34enough is enough, all right, let's get the thoughts of my panel,
00:05:38former labor advisor Paul Richards, political commentator Alice.
00:05:42grant and former Metropolitan police detective
00:05:46Peter Blexley. Peter Blexley, I must come to you immediately on
00:05:50this. I think we need to get tougher on all criminals, let alone foreign
00:05:53criminals. I'm sick and tired of this revolving front door at so
00:05:57many of our prisons. I'm sick and tired of early release
00:06:01schemes. I'm sick and tired of this having a complete
00:06:04criminal justice system which is not fit for purpose.
00:06:08So that starts with the police at the front line, then it goes to the...
00:06:12cps, underfunded, underperforming and often
00:06:16kind of polluted by a woke kind of mindset, then we get to the
00:06:20courts, so many them will be sitting empty tomorrow when they could
00:06:23be up and functioning, about 20% capacity of our crown cts not
00:06:27operating properly, then we go to the prisons, we all
00:06:31know about the dreadful state of our prisons and how
00:06:35repeated governments have not created enough prison
00:06:38capacity, and then we get to the final hurdle if you will, which is...
00:06:42probation again, overworked, underpaid, not
00:06:46performing properly, the whole thing is a catastrophic mess
00:06:49and what have a the reports in the sun that uh, well actually what might
00:06:53happen is you know we don't want to hankuff them because that makes them feel too distressed, and
00:06:57also you could potentially sue police officers if - well for whatever
00:07:01reason i guess, any foreign prisoner who is to be deported
00:07:05from this country of course needs to be placed in handcuffs
00:07:09in order to protect those staff who have the off-
00:07:12very, very difficult job of getting them onto
00:07:16aeroplanes and out of this country. I'm sure that many,
00:07:20many members of your audience have never had to
00:07:23deal with an extremely violent
00:07:27person. I have a number of occasions and it is
00:07:31very unpleasant, often takes a number of people from whatever it
00:07:35may be, whatever arm of law enforcement to deal with them, and it's
00:07:38very difficult. Some these people, when they are being removed from the country.
00:07:42will do everything humanly possible to prevent that
00:07:46process, handcuffs, I'd have them shackled by the ankles, I'd have
00:07:50them in straight jackets to get them out of this country. why, why do you
00:07:54think, Paul Richars, it seems there's some sort of infection of a woke mind
00:07:58virus where saying, oh, don't put these poor people in handcuffs, they'll be distressed. I
00:08:02mean, maybe they've served the sentence, but they're being deported, so if they really
00:08:06want to stay, they will use every tactic in the book, including trying to run
00:08:09away. Uh, yes, it's hard to disagree with that, I tend to
00:08:13agree with Peter's analysis of each stage, I would add in
00:08:17also we're not very good at rehabilitation, so there you know the reoffending
00:08:21rate means that people are going the revolving door and that's not good either, so we need to
00:08:25look at that aspect of it too, um we
00:08:27are where we are in terms of prison places and that's why we're having to go through this
00:08:31ridiculous early release scheme because otherwise the whole system would fall over,
00:08:34I think we all agree that's you the wrong place to be in, however I don't what
00:08:38the alternative is, the only issue about deportations on the...
00:08:52sure would
00:08:52so it I'm be
00:08:52not any better off, has that
00:08:54well happened, but I think it would, I think they would has ever happened, well I'm sure it has, but I mean I just
00:08:58think that
00:08:58it would be saying that that's what would happen and you're sure it would, you can't name one time
00:09:02where it has happened, I think governments would say, well hang on, we're not just taking all these people,
00:09:06we've got our own troubles and they would say right, all these British people in in jails go
00:09:10back, well where are all these swaps?
00:09:15Yeah, not only that, but we need to be strong on deterrence, like that's really what's key
00:09:19here, and it's not just about finding solutions, though I
00:09:23agree, it's really important to understand what we do with the deportations,
00:09:27and they do need to be in large numbers at the current rate that we that the crisis we
00:09:31have on our hands, but it's about being strong from the
00:09:35beginning, and for example, these policies like not handcuffing people when
00:09:39they commit an illegal act, I mean this is what contributes to the fact that we're...
00:09:43international laughing stock and that people think they can come here because they're not actually going to
00:09:47be faced with any real justice, well
00:09:48I mean this is recommendation at the moment, so it's not yet policy, but the fact that somebody is
00:09:52thinking in this manner starts to sort
00:09:54of symptomatic the kind of way that we
00:09:58approach these things and hence why we have such a big crisis on our hands. Peter, you're
00:10:02so right to say everything that you didn't the perfect person to talk about this,
00:10:05because you know you know what it's like to deal with people who are
00:10:08violent here for the right reasons like we talked you. couple
00:10:12weeks ago about the fact that so many knives are being also
00:10:16found on our borders, like it's it's a massive crisis, these people aren't here for the
00:10:20right reasons, they're not here, with good nature, with good, good will,
00:10:24so...
00:10:25here, people might say they they finished their sentence, now they're being deported,
00:10:28so they didn't, they didn't do
00:10:30the right thing when they
00:10:31they were were caught out and now they're going, so they they might say that
00:10:34actually they are not, well they are criminals but they're not anymore, so the
00:10:38serve the sentence, you are releasing them, therefore we won't put the handcuffs on
00:10:42because it's not very nice, well if you're here illegally you've already committed an act
00:10:46that means that you should be deported, and if you've committed a criminal act was
00:10:50here, then I'm sorry, but you don't have the right to be upset if you're
00:10:53handcaffed, you just need to...
00:10:56to be dealt with what do you make of this book then
00:10:57that they can that are in the prisons poll where they can read about how
00:11:01they can pass the british citizen conflicted on that cuz if they actually do want to
00:11:05become a british citizen and they want to you know what about what we want we don't
00:11:09want and that is the way you learn about British culture and so on by
00:11:12the the book that all people that want to become citizens have to do and they're doing that
00:11:16rather than committing criminal acts then what's wrong with that they're a prison they've learned a lot
00:11:19about they've learned a lot about the British culture because they've gone out and
00:11:23breached every rule by stealing, robbing, raping,
00:11:27murdering or whatever else is that's got them in the prison. serve your
00:11:31time,
00:11:31then off you trot. and i really don't care if it's in a straight
00:11:35jacket that you are put on that plane and got rid of. we do believe
00:11:39in redemption, don't we? we do believe that somebody can go. not if you come to this
00:11:43country and break our rules. if you come to this country as
00:11:46guest, so if they've come in here legally, if
00:11:49legally, and then you breach our hospitality by
00:11:53breaking our laws as... far as I'm concerned, you lose every
00:11:57imaginable right to remain in Great Britain and
00:12:01off you go, in fact I'll drive the van and I'll fasten the straight
00:12:05jacket and I'll
00:12:06put
00:12:10that I mean I appreciate the soft touch and you want to have a you want
00:12:14to be well, I don't what you want to be, maybe gentle sources
00:12:17people, but they are criminals the finish their
00:12:20sentence, our criminal justice system is based on you, if you serve
00:12:24your... time and you've you repaid your debt to society, you then
00:12:28re-enter society, not if you're a foreigner
00:12:31forever, when you're a citizen that makes sense,
00:12:34because
00:12:36you know to be honest, how many these people show any remorse? let's be real, probably
00:12:40very few, to be
00:12:41honest, such
00:12:44difference to be made about someone who is a criminal who repents, who wants to
00:12:48change the life, and what and and then just being really
00:12:52reckless, because we do not want people on our streets, and commit crime after crime,
00:12:56especially when they've already they're already here illegally, it's just reckless, like you wouldn't want
00:12:59someone in your house who's just committed a crime and hasn't shown any remorse.
00:13:03Paul, I feel compelled to repeat myself, which is not great
00:13:07television, but I'm just wondering tonight whether you're hard of hearing or hard of
00:13:11thinking, if somebody comes to this country as foreigner and they
00:13:14break our laws and they got a prison, then they have no right to
00:13:18remain here and they should be banished, then why are they in prison at all then? because
00:13:22they've broken the law, but you on your logic? then they should be deportted straight away
00:13:26on sentence, I didn't say that, you see, you just made something
00:13:30up, you completely and utterly made that up, right? because I
00:13:34actually said when they serve their sentence. now, if you want me to expand on
00:13:38that, I happily will, because so much of my thinking is based
00:13:41around victims and remember, your foreign criminals create victims
00:13:45of crime, so if somebody is raped for
00:13:49example, or murdered, then I do not want them deported until they
00:13:53have served their full sent. because sometimes they be
00:13:56deported to a country, say for example an afgan comes here and
00:14:00rape someone and let's face it, enough them do, so they then get convicted
00:14:04of rape in this country, don't pull face, it's a fact, read the papers, read
00:14:08the papers, it might help you, the people are
00:14:11interpreted british army, yeah, just just have look at how
00:14:15many afghans have come here and raped people, on the
00:14:18scheme, look up for youif, have look at the facts of how many afghans have
00:14:22committed rape in this country, right, so if they then get deported
00:14:25to the
00:14:26to the Taliban ruled Afghanistan for example, I wouldn't was want
00:14:30that, because in all likelihood they'd probably be lorded as heroes
00:14:34the minute they arrived in Cabball, so I want them to serve their punishment
00:14:38here and then get the first plane out of
00:14:40here, I think that's fair
00:14:42enough, why should they stay? yeah, and
00:14:46if if just yeah for to play devil's advocate, if
00:14:50they have gone through the prison system, they have become
00:14:53redeemed and they want. to become British citizens and they are reading the books that are
00:14:57there about how to become a citizen, what's wrong with that? they should be
00:15:01deported. I don't want somebody who's come to this country, raped someone,
00:15:05murdered someone, them being realloud into British
00:15:08society, they should be banished, that's not all the
00:15:12criminals we're talking about, no, well I don't care if they're a burglar, a shoplifter or they've parked
00:15:16a double yellow line, if they come from Afghanistan they can clear off back
00:15:20there, well now come on, that's a bit unfair bause there will be some some
00:15:23afghans to actually... very nice, but the ones who are in
00:15:27prison, I'm afraid I have no sympathy at all, I didn't talk about the very, very nice
00:15:30ones, I talked about the ones that broke the law, we absolutely have a
00:15:34right to pick and choose who we want to contribute to our... country, our
00:15:38society, our economy, are people who come here and there are so many good
00:15:41natured, hard-working people who have something to offer us, so have something to contribute to
00:15:45our society who bring positivity, why would we want people who committed
00:15:49crime? it's just logical. well, i think it's quite simple really, we don't want
00:15:53people in crimes in this country, i just
00:15:55you know, i just it just because belief that there are people there who
00:15:59are even supporting this like that present governor who seems to be saying that there's
00:16:02nothing really what wrong with supplying them with a book about how to become a British
00:16:06citizen, what? in prison having broken uh the rules in this
00:16:09country, because I think it should be ultimate immediate deportation after
00:16:13you've broken the law, there shouldn't be any flexibility after you've served your
00:16:17sentence,
00:16:18it is the next step is deportation, I'd rather they had books to read
00:16:21that had deportation flight time tables on it,
00:16:25information on why you're being deported or or just to remind you the rules of this, maybe
00:16:29the bible would be good, well let's face it, they might already have had leaflet about
00:16:33not not the right people might now when they arrived here, let's face it, we got thousands of
00:16:37people. washing up on our shores who were given leaflets saying not to have
00:16:41sex with children and rape people and the such like that's the state of his
00:16:44country and when you say that out loud it sounds like ridiculous thing to
00:16:48say that you've given them booklets about how not to be be pedophiles and
00:16:52rapists and sexual predators but unfortunately it's true
00:16:55i shouldn't laugh but it's actually true we had to do
00:16:59that absously shocking disgrace an absolute
00:17:03disgrace and such a letdown um to every
00:17:06single every single one of us already. All right, Paul, I'll give you the last
00:17:10word on this. No, no, I'm, I'm
00:17:12done. In response to
00:17:16reform UK's request to remove the material. HMP Mason, governor Paul
00:17:20Mason said, having reviewed the material concerned,
00:17:24I have not identified any security, safety, good, order,
00:17:28discipline or public protection concerns arising from the
00:17:31availability of life in the UK test study
00:17:35materials within the prison library. is the publication subject to any
00:17:39national restriction? as such, there is currently no policy basis
00:17:42upon which I would justify directing its removal from
00:17:46prison stock. well, the government spokes person said all prison
00:17:50read material is kept under constant review and we are urgently investigating this
00:17:54matter. prisons such as HMP Maystone are helping speed up
00:17:58removing foreign criminals and the results speak for themselves. since coming
00:18:02into office we have removed more than 11,700 foreign
00:18:05criminals, the highest number in nearly decade and we are
00:18:09changing the law to deport people earlier than ever
00:18:12before. oh, there you have it, great stuff. all
00:18:16right, we'll stay with us, loads more to come. uh,
00:18:20coming up, the UK stands with president Zelensky following Donald Trump's
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00:21:17Welcome back to Alex Armstrong, tonight with me. a queer: now labor
00:21:21is facing accusations of ramming through
00:21:25controversial election laws that would allow people to vote
00:21:28without ID. now under these proposals pushed by the
00:21:32prime minister Ander Burnham, voters could use a bank card at
00:21:36polling stations with labor arguing that the changes would
00:21:40make voting more accessible and boost
00:21:43turnout. now to me that seems utterly nonsense, who
00:21:47hasn't got some form of photo? id:
00:21:51really? the conservatives introduced mandatory photo ID in
00:21:552023, something
00:21:56that they did that was actually useful, and the idea of that was to combat
00:22:00electoral fraud, but the electoral commission has raised
00:22:03concerns about the new proposes, those new proposals
00:22:07being that people can fate without photo ID. it comes a
00:22:10mid-mounting speculation of early general election. so
00:22:14tonight, i'm asking, should Britain ax photo
00:22:18ID checks? Well we're now joined by the co-founder the
00:22:22Together Association, Allan Miller and political commentator
00:22:25Thomas Harris. All right, Alan Miller, I'll start with you.
00:22:29What's wrong with insisting that people should have photo ID
00:22:33to vote? Well, I think it's really ironic Nanna that we've
00:22:37got a situation that we are being forced into digital
00:22:41ID, even though we've been told that we are not, um,
00:22:44around everything from social media band which is going to make everyone verified
00:22:48digitally to... one login, eight million directors having
00:22:52to digital verify, and yet when it comes to elections,
00:22:56there's a speedy rush to eliminate this, so you can
00:23:00just
00:23:00use a bank debit card uh and also uh
00:23:03have a burker where have your face
00:23:07covered, when we've also got uh we're being told that you have to
00:23:10remove masks on all sorts of protests, well at least some kinds of
00:23:14protest, so it looks very stark that whilst we're going in one
00:23:18direction a range of... areas to insist on digitally
00:23:22verifying digital id, across the board to get on the town square, when
00:23:26it comes
00:23:26to something that's fundamental as whether it's our citizens, one person, one
00:23:30vote, it's being scrapped along of course with the
00:23:33attempt to introduce 16-year-olds to on the one hand we're being told that
00:23:37we need to protect them all the time, but then they're getting given the vote, so it
00:23:41looks like it's very, very instrumental uh just to
00:23:45get the kind of votes they want and it looks very
00:23:48transparent, you because I don't think that's a
00:23:52big deal, I don't think it's a great infringement of your liberty to come in
00:23:56and use some sort of id to verify you are you say you are
00:24:00when you are voting, Thomas, surely that's a good
00:24:02idea, what I would say first of all, is I completely agree on digital idea,
00:24:06I think that's something that that I completely agree with uh you on this
00:24:10point, obviously you mentioned that this change was introduced in 2023 by the
00:24:14conservative party, quite interestingly one of your own contributors, Jacobs mog
00:24:18actually said that it's didn't actually really benefit
00:24:22anyone particularly because what you ended up with is lot of uh pensioners
00:24:26who'd forget to take their ID being unable to vote at the same time
00:24:30the the introduction the law specifically had carv
00:24:34outs for things like a pension of bus passes and so on and so forth which
00:24:38meant that whilst there were various ways for elderly people
00:24:42to register the vote those were not available to young people you couldn't have for
00:24:46example um young person's bud path being eligible form of
00:24:50voter identification, so I think we need to be really clear that like, well
00:24:53yes, you know, a party to a certain extent it's always going to try and
00:24:57benefit,
00:24:58you know, how how do they get their vote out there, that's not something unique to labor
00:25:01in this case, the conservatives did the very same thing on 16-year-old voting, look,
00:25:05I'm in Wales, we had 16-year-old voting in the senate
00:25:09elections this year, and as far as I can see I'm still a democracy,
00:25:13you know, we're all still standing, and in fact you know we
00:25:16we've had a complete change the parties so... 'I don't really get
00:25:20the hysteria
00:25:21over 16-year-old voting if I'm if I'm really honest, especially being a
00:25:25country that has had it now for the last election, yeah
00:25:29the sorry go alan, you go, well it's not
00:25:32hysteria, let's be very clear, on the one hand we're being told that we have to
00:25:36protect children all the time, yet at the same time uh
00:25:4016-year-olds are now sweepingly being presented with this, more than 50%
00:25:44the public don't vote, the attempt to win the majority the
00:25:48British public over'. is almost being jettisoned and we've seen in
00:25:51increase a kind of sectarianism in multi languages being
00:25:55presented in elections, we know there's concerns around family voting, the
00:25:59idea that for instance when you wear a burker a... place like going into
00:26:03vote that you can't just be quietly taken to the side and show who you
00:26:07are, all these things are of grave concern, and frankly, in the last five
00:26:11years what we what we've seen in Wales, we've seen somewhat
00:26:15of an aberation of things when it comes to democracy, particularly
00:26:19around some the lockdowns, very different to what happened in England,
00:26:22and as it happens where you've got in positions around driving and other
00:26:26measures which not proper consultations, so I wouldn't be
00:26:30celebrating the democratic content of... what's gone on in Wells and the
00:26:34point is why are so many people not voting and I think
00:26:38it's because of lack of trust and when they see something as cavalier and instrumental
00:26:42as this on the one hand you're forcing so many people in Britain
00:26:45constantly to have to show and prove who they are just to engage just to
00:26:49verify even promoting
00:26:51which I don't agree with by
00:26:52the way I try to make clear though I I don't agree with that either like as as
00:26:55pointly argument stems from the idea that like
00:26:59we're on one hand telling 16-year old
00:27:01that they need to be protective also say that they should be able to vote my argument
00:27:04is
00:27:05that the protectionism the the digital id program is also
00:27:08bad, like so so the premise they're not adults, they're not
00:27:12adults, yeah we've got
00:27:14they are going to live with the future consequences of we've got no I know but so
00:27:17so four year olds and eight year olds, the point is they're not adults,
00:27:21they need to finish education, you can't
00:27:23go and have a drink, you can't you got
00:27:25levels of you can't go and have alcohol, you have a whole range of
00:27:29rules around becoming adult in society, to crave
00:27:33attempt with kind of snotty view, a bit like the whole Brexit
00:27:36discussion, all those coffing dodgers, all the old people, with
00:27:40cavalier attempt just to cultivate, just people
00:27:44that are under age, so it's highly disagree
00:27:47with, did you, did you disagree with the conservatives attempt to um favor elderly
00:27:51people with their decisions in 2022 there, with the idea of making a
00:27:54carv out for an elderly person's bus pass while not making a making a cat out for
00:27:58any other form of bus pass, surely that's just them catering to their voters in much to say:
00:28:02is it not? well no, i thought i thought that was strange and
00:28:06i'm not, mean like there are many things that the that the conservatives have
00:28:10done that i think utterly wrong like the attempt to introduce vaccine passports and
00:28:14now we've seen with digital id a whole array of things than non-crime
00:28:18hate incidents and free speech. the point i think is
00:28:22again is that this is becoming increasingly clear that it's an attempt by somebody's
00:28:25got voted by 25,000 people in makerfield by the way where he said he
00:28:29wasn't going to then try and go back into the EU because majority them are
00:28:33strongly brexit in the red war area, now he's talking about going
00:28:37back into the EU and completely, he
00:28:41only had 25,000 votes, not the nation, and saying,
00:28:45well, um, you know, we're going to force everyone to do this digital id, but not
00:28:49if you're coming to vote, then you can just have a card, and we're not even going to be sure
00:28:52what sex you are or your identity, it is
00:28:56absolutely transparent, and it looks like it's a further
00:29:00around sectarianism. as we've seen right,
00:29:03sectarianism, the attempt not just by the greens but labor as well to
00:29:07do things in other languages, this is Britain
00:29:11and things should be done a certain way and it's kind of
00:29:14insulting I think to the public. did did democracy not
00:29:18exist then prior to 2022 a functional state? did it only exist
00:29:22post post the introduction of that? would you say that the 2019
00:29:26res let's not be let's not be junior about this we've been going steadily
00:29:30a let's be you're going to asking? questions, but here's the point,
00:29:34we've steadily gone down a situation where the demos has been treated with
00:29:37contempt, the majority the public is treated as though we're
00:29:41sort of mad, bad and dangerous and stupid consistently, and
00:29:45now we're being presented on the one and with all sorts of measures that's going to make
00:29:49it very difficult, whether you're presenting your tax returns, eight million
00:29:53directors and others and host of different areas you're being forced, social media
00:29:56bands, which means everyone's going to have to digitally verify across the
00:30:00board to demonstrate who you are, even to go to the pub now, like we
00:30:04know with credit cards, all of sudden cash has gone, it's going to go
00:30:08in that direction, it's looking, but yet when it comes to the vote, no, and I
00:30:12think the point is about the past, when it comes to the sectarian
00:30:15point that we've consistently gone a direction where the
00:30:19labor party in particular can't appeal to its constituency of
00:30:23British workers, the original working class people that was
00:30:27historic relationship and they've become ever more partisan and
00:30:31sectarian, "we've seen that a range of constituencies, particularly in
00:30:35the midlands and the northeast and the northwest and parts of London, and that's the big
00:30:39battle that's going on between them and the greens in particular, and I think it's really
00:30:42craven, and that is also part of what the problem is with the way they're
00:30:46wrapping this all up. okay, final word to you, Thomas,
00:30:50well, I would just say that I think my position is that I agree with you on the
00:30:54freedoms, the lack of lacking of freedom of digital idea, I think is wrong, but I also
00:30:57think that making the vote more accessible is not is not
00:31:01in'. with that, I want more freedom across the board, including when it comes
00:31:05to voting, so I'm I'm saying that there shouldn't be a car out
00:31:09specifically with voting, you're saying that you you, you believe the labor
00:31:13government to be doing things that are restricted. people's freedoms and
00:31:16act that
00:31:16I actually agree with to a certain extent, but I'm also saying that I think in some
00:31:20ways we have seen low voter turnout voter supression as result the
00:31:232022 um alterations, so I think that
00:31:27yes, yes, so you think that the what happened is
00:31:31harmed voter turnout instead of, yes, so you don't
00:31:34think it should be necessary for people to prove exactly who they are
00:31:38when they're voting on something that's very important uh when it comes
00:31:42to like getting rid of any form of... it's not really like they're getting rid of
00:31:46any form of identification, it's just not necessarily going to
00:31:50be just the the forms that they've suggested, like for example, they want to use bank
00:31:54cards as well, but you don't have you got a debit card that says
00:31:58jay smith, j smith on the debit card could be
00:32:01anyone, yeah well mean i mean i don't,
00:32:04i think lot
00:32:04of no image, come on, mean
00:32:08seriously debit card any could look they could look up,
00:32:12but
00:32:13too much
00:32:13too much sorry hold. hold on second, no, that's too much,
00:32:17isn't it? seriously, let's be honest, Thomas,
00:32:19that why do you think, what do you think is their motivation, do you think it's simply to get a higher
00:32:23turnout for across the board, or do
00:32:25you think perhaps they're trying to swift, swizzle it a bit so that it's harder
00:32:29for the people who aren't as likely to vote for them uh to vote for
00:32:32them, i think it's more likely that they want to mobilize their vote, i wouldn't deny
00:32:36that, but that's the same of most most parties in any country, as i said the
00:32:40conservatives did it with the 2022 re, and i don't doubt that with
00:32:44with this emotion that yes, they're thinking it will mobilize the youth vote because
00:32:48for example they don't necessarily have easiest forms of identification, i
00:32:51myself don't drive for example and a driving license is easier
00:32:54form right, you've
00:32:56been abroad, you've got yeah, do yeah,
00:32:59but not everyone remembers to bring the passport, yeah, well they should
00:33:03do, it's really simple, when you when you're going abroad, you have to remember to bring your passport,
00:33:07so imagine you're going on holiday and take your passport, all right, alan miller and thomas harries,
00:33:11thank you so much, all right, well now before we move to our leads story
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00:39:32"welcome back to Alex Armstrong, tonight with me, Nana Aqueer, so
00:39:36Britain has backed Ukrainian president Vladimir Zelensky after
00:39:40Donald Trump called for him to be replaced in an extraordinary
00:39:43round over new US deal with Russia. Now Donald Trump says it's
00:39:47time for Ukraine to get new president, accusing Zelensky of
00:39:51making problems to the world by continuing attacks on Russian oil
00:39:55refineries, and this comes after Washington." and agreed to
00:39:58temporarily lift sanctions on Russian diesel exports
00:40:02and move that Zelensky warns will help fund Putin's war in
00:40:06Ukraine, but defense secretary West streeting says Britain
00:40:09opposes the deal
00:40:10and stands firmly with Zelensky. It's not the first time we've seen a
00:40:14disagreement between Washington and Keep, between President Trump and President
00:40:18Zelensky
00:40:18and in these situations it's our responsibility to try and bring our
00:40:22friends back together uh we we do stand full square with Ukraine,
00:40:26we don't support the... US decision on on diesel uh
00:40:30and as for President Zelensky, I just say two things, firstly,
00:40:34it is for Ukraine to choose their leadership, not for anyone
00:40:37else, and secondly, I mean, I've had the the privilege of meeting President
00:40:41Zelensky, I think Ukraine is fortunate to have had someone of that
00:40:44courage. So is Donald Trump
00:40:48betraying Ukraine? Well, let's get the thoughts of my panel former labor
00:40:52special advisor
00:40:53Paul Richards, political commentator Alice Grant, and former
00:40:56MetroP and police detective Peter Blexley. All right, Alice Grant, I'm going to
00:41:00come to you first. I am very suspicious of any sort of
00:41:04attempt by America to intervene any sort of global
00:41:08politics. I just think history shows that they love meddling
00:41:12and they almost never, um, the outcome is
00:41:16almost never peaceful and it's almost never right, and I think it'd be a mistake to
00:41:20think no matter how bad we think Zelensky is or whether we
00:41:24like him or not, because yep, there are real questions. He is still a... democratically
00:41:28elected leader and for that reason
00:41:32um simply we just leave like it's not right to
00:41:35medal
00:41:37next. and
00:41:40Trump. Paul Richards, well, what the deal will do is put money in
00:41:44the hands of Putin, which he will then use to fund his
00:41:48proxies in Iran and to kill Ukrainians and that's
00:41:52what the result of this deal will be, and if Trump had simply done a
00:41:56deal with Canada for the same amount of diesel, then the same
00:42:00outcome would have happened in terms of reducing the the the price the
00:42:04fuel, but he's chosen to do it, well maybe Canada won't deal with him
00:42:07because he wants to take Canada. "the consequences of
00:42:11this are murderous and dangerous and I'm appalled by it
00:42:15and and all these people that say oh he's a Russian asset all this stuff I don't believe
00:42:19that but he would behave like this if he was a Russian asset because it's only going
00:42:22to help the Russians
00:42:23all right uh
00:42:24Peter Blexley well first of all I have to point out the utter
00:42:28ridiculousness of what you said Alice okay let me just I
00:42:32know you you have youth on your side and I most definitely don't
00:42:36but on the 6th of June 1994 America had
00:42:40very, very big say in global events, and it was
00:42:44massively to the benefit of you, me, everybody in this
00:42:47building, and everybody, excuse me, excuse
00:42:50me, and to the benefit of every
00:42:53member the GB News audience this evening, so that is a
00:42:57quite frankly ridiculous thing to say, yes, some
00:43:01American intervention in other conflicts has been
00:43:05unhelful, but to say such a sweeping statement
00:43:09is a deep, deep... insult to the millions of people that sacrificed their
00:43:12lives so that we could enjoy the freedoms we have today. okay,
00:43:16Peter, I strongly disagree. um, firstly, when I really talk about American
00:43:20intervention, I meaning in the Middle East, and the regime changed there, and the
00:43:24issue with hegemmany a global hegemony like America, is that the
00:43:28fundamental mistake is to think that they have our best interests at Britain's
00:43:32interests. personally, I don't think we should be involved any war, I don't
00:43:36think we should be sending our soldiers to Ukraine, neither do I think we should be at
00:43:40full rallying to support Russia who evidently could nuku us a
00:43:43second with no remorse, but my
00:43:46issue is that we're so eager to sort of count out
00:43:50America or even cout out the EU when no one ever puts Britain's interests
00:43:54first, that is what I really strongly believe, and I don't think America has
00:43:57Britain's interests and in fact, it's not just something I don't think, it's something that we all
00:44:01know, when has America ever actually stod up for our interests,
00:44:05they do they do not care about us, they would happily see us as their like 50
00:44:09second state. whatever, Elon Musk, Trump, they treat
00:44:12us disgustingly on the world stage, they have
00:44:16humiliated our leaders, they have humiliated our nation and so many of our
00:44:20conferences, and to be honest, I have absolutely no time for
00:44:23Trump's America, and I believed in Trump, and I wanted him to be the
00:44:27conservative leader that he promised to be, but instead he has only caused war,
00:44:31he has only served American interests, ruthlessly, he only
00:44:35cares about enriching America and basically
00:44:38serving the gl. corporations which effectively run this world
00:44:42and I don't have any time for that kind of ruthless anti-humanitarian
00:44:46politics and certainly I don't think our leaders should be should be
00:44:50account should be in support of that either, I don't think he's our friend, once again I can't believe that
00:44:54you've paid such huge insult to the memory of so many
00:44:58millions by using that blanket kind of language again, because
00:45:02just rewind what you said if you want, if someone's recording recording it,
00:45:05watch it when you get home, okay once again you rul
00:45:08every American. an intervention as being unhelpful, yeah, i don't
00:45:12think they've been overall helpful, i think america is just, mean look at look, are you ignoring
00:45:16ddday? no, i'm okay, come on, that's okay, when we're
00:45:20talking about, no, no, no, i won't come on, are you ignoring
00:45:23ddday, listen, when it comes to
00:45:27those, do have to ask you to answer the question,
00:45:30peter makes a good point, respect your point of view, but he makes a good point, what
00:45:34about dday, i actually, you know, and
00:45:38maybe i'm a bit of p enthusiast in this respect, but I
00:45:42really don't think in great hindsight that the two world wars actually created a
00:45:46better world or better order that they that was before. all we saw was
00:45:50the death of millions of British young soldiers, young men dying
00:45:53assam, thousands of men sacrifice
00:45:57their lives, and what is the result the world we see today? is it the freeer world
00:46:01that was promised? will those wars actually worth that sacrifice? when i look at the
00:46:05world we have today, i really wonder what's happened and i don't i
00:46:08don't see
00:46:09very quick. quickly, not to say that I don't admire those
00:46:12man, of course, well, we're far better off without German militarism
00:46:16dominating the last century, and we're far better off with the Nazis having been defeated
00:46:20in the 40s, but also don't forget America's role in
00:46:24NATO and and maintaining the peace that we've had for 80-90 years
00:46:28in this country as well, I'm no fan of Trump
00:46:32and I'm no fan of mus, but I am very much a fan of NATO and the Western
00:46:35Alliance and strong defense is what stops wars all right, well have to leave
00:46:39there.
00:46:40I just want to pull you up on something that uh Europe, many countries in Europe are still buying
00:46:44russian oil as well. All right, well listen, stay with this. No,
00:46:47it is true, I've just been, yeah, they shouldn't be, but that's just as bad as Donald Trump. All right,
00:46:51despite really get out. are readying their parties for
00:46:55snap general election, also tonight. This is Alex
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00:50:13So welcome back to Alex Armstrong tonight, with me Nanna Aquare. So Britain
00:50:17could be heading to the polls before Christmas. I mean, do you believe it? Do you think Andy
00:50:21Burnham is brave? enough to attempt to maybe squander his majority,
00:50:25I don't think so. Cannock has told her party to prepare for a possible
00:50:29snap general election, that is emid growing speculation that the prime
00:50:32minister could call early vote. Reform UK leader
00:50:36Nigel Farage says that his party is also on
00:50:39emergency general election footing, but is ruled out an
00:50:43electoral deal with the conservatives, so will you be
00:50:47heading to your nearest pulling station sooner than expected? Let's get the
00:50:50thoughts of my panel.
00:50:52and to start with you, former labor advisor, Paul Richards, do you think there
00:50:56is any chance Annie Burnham would be brave enough to call early general,
00:51:00well he's not unbrave, I mean he has done a series of brave things in his life, I mean the
00:51:04labour party has won a by-election in make field against
00:51:08reform and now it's just one a by-election in Hoben against the
00:51:11greens, so it can argue that it has seen off threats for to its
00:51:15left and its right majority
00:51:17that they won by was substantially smaller in Albon wasn't it, well the turnout
00:51:21was lot smaller.
00:51:22but actually
00:51:27was the
00:51:28turn low, vote out share held up exactly, but the point, the point is three times less, it does give you a
00:51:32sense that it's it's game on now a way that it wasn't a year ago,
00:51:36however I don't think he's going to squander an enormous labor
00:51:39majority in return for either very small one or even
00:51:43a minority position or even pact with somebody else, so why would he
00:51:47throw that all
00:51:48the way, well why it not be at the expense of him sliding
00:51:52in the poles? and then losing the next general election, because he can't get anything done, can
00:51:55he? he has to follow's mandate,
00:51:57and if he does doesn't do that,
00:52:00exactly, more than they do now, the counter argument is that
00:52:04the he's... found by a manifesto that in not of his own making, especially on
00:52:08the uh, you inability to raise tax, the three main
00:52:11taxes, so does he want his own mandate, but I just the the mood music, talking
00:52:15to MPs, talking to people at the conference a week or so ago,
00:52:19you know, it's the appetite is not there, because it would just because they're too scared, no,
00:52:23it's not that, I think it's just, but this is a government elected with a big majority, why would you throw it
00:52:27away, can't
00:52:28get anything done, because these backp just don't like him and don't want follow his policies, well they love him, what are you talking
00:52:32about, now burnum, they love him, well the be Absolutely
00:52:35love they're the ones who got him in the job, what are you talking about? prove it in the
00:52:39poll, prove it, prove it at the ballot box, what is he's that brave with that
00:52:42majority then absolutely, but he doesn't have to have an election for another two and a half years, so
00:52:46he could have one in the spring,
00:52:47I mean that's a possibility, but I think an autumn or winter
00:52:51election,
00:52:52I mean Boris pulled it off in 2019, he managed it, but that was against Jeremy
00:52:55Corbin, not a great achievement, let's face it, I think
00:52:59right now, I think right now he just needs
00:53:03to carry on governing and...
00:53:05uh maybe in the spring the things a little different, but I just don't, I think I can see why Kemy's
00:53:09doing this cuz obviously she needs to keep her troops on side and maintain the momentum
00:53:13and show that she's in charge and stop all these people that she doesn't like becoming
00:53:17candidates
00:53:17all that stuff, however I think it's more gamesmanship than
00:53:20it is genuine prospect. Alex, I mean I can totally see why
00:53:23it's um strategically why be strategically bad for labor to
00:53:27call an election, but it is so artilly undemocratic
00:53:31and I do think that we need to have our say as soon as possible because why? just
00:53:35well because no one actually voted for Andy Burnham apart from
00:53:3924 people
00:53:44elect prime constitution ministers
00:53:45don't okay we that's a fair point but i would say that is increasingly
00:53:48it is becoming about who's leading at helm and i don't think
00:53:52anyone andy burnham like what is he actually achieving what is he actually doing i think
00:53:56he's very incipid leader he's done some good things he has talked about growth and
00:54:00every post good and hope and every early
00:54:03outside the cabinet, nobody is better connected to the labor
00:54:07party than paul, paul, you just said about a
00:54:11potential pact with somebody else,
00:54:13and that's the hand movement
00:54:14you use, who is the somebody else? well,
00:54:18not the greens, I can tell you that, I didn't ask you, it's not, I said, who is
00:54:22the somebody else? on the electoral maths, you would have to do deal with the lib dems
00:54:26stay, now that's why that's a good argument for not having the election, if
00:54:29we got an alarm bell we can ring, imagine labor in the lib dems, the touries the lib
00:54:33dems were worst enough.
00:54:35I tend to agree, that's why the majority coming out, tourists in London are being
00:54:39scammed by organized migrant groups, Zack Garna Perkers joins
00:54:43us to share his exclusive, this is Alex Armstrong,
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01:00:24"good evening,
01:00:24it is 10 o'clock, i'm not aquire in for Alex Armstrong,
01:00:28tonight, why do you go when the police, when the police showed up, why did you
01:00:31leave? why did you leave when the police showed up? why do you leave? why
01:00:35are you running away from me now? tourists in London
01:00:39are being scammed by organized migrant groups,
01:00:42plus some of what we would want to
01:00:45do in the fullest sense will require..." difficult, difficult
01:00:49decision. To come back to the tax point, I will stick to the
01:00:52manifesto. That is
01:00:54important. Warnings of tax rises
01:00:58to come as John Healey scrambles to find funds to plug a
01:01:0235 billion pound gap. Are MPs
01:01:05opening the door to police for them to be
01:01:08sued? And on my panel tonight, former labor
01:01:12special advisor, Paul Richards, political commentator, Alice
01:01:16Grant, and former. polton police detective Peter
01:01:18Blexley
01:01:32and Trump has gone after Canada, Greenland,
01:01:34and now he's after the ocean. So we need river, we
01:01:38need an ocean, so I just think of either the Atlantic or the
01:01:41Pacific, we call it Trump ocean,
01:01:45or...
01:01:51or ocean the Americans, something
01:01:54like
01:02:02that. Tourist scammers have taken over Britain's
01:02:05capital. Why did you go when the police, when the police showed up? Why
01:02:09did you leave? Why did you leave when the police showed up? Why do you leave?
01:02:13Why are you running away from me now? When Zak
01:02:17Gana. Perkis from the Daily Express decided to investigate London's
01:02:20migrant penny cap network. Is it any wonder that they
01:02:24didn't want to speak to him? Can you talk to us? I see that oh you're
01:02:28hiding your price. Why are you hiding your price? mate, why are you hiding your
01:02:31prices? why are you hiding your prices? why are you hiding your
01:02:35prices? are you going to rip off some tourists?
01:02:38yeah, answer few the questions mate, yeah, you need to be, you need to have
01:02:42license to be doing this in a month's time, have you got your license is it on the
01:02:46way? no answers, they don't speak English either, which is going to be a problem because you need
01:02:50minimum levels of english. so despite
01:02:53new regulations set to come in that will control prices and
01:02:57demand strict English requirements and proper background. checks, these
01:03:01guys seem completely unfaced, they have no intention of stopping
01:03:05and continue charging astronomical prices. Hi there
01:03:09sir, can you tell me about what you get for £165? £165
01:03:13pound, what do you get?
01:03:13I don't understand English, but you you know that Penny cab drivers are going to need
01:03:17to have a minimum level of English right? That's more expensive, it needs to be £1
01:03:21pound a minute right? That's the new regulations. Yours is £17 a minute. There was
01:03:25one lady, she bought rt kit, he charged her from here to
01:03:29tower of London.
01:03:30350 funny
01:03:34that they understand money though, and it's not just the peticaps, there's a whole fleet of
01:03:38ice cream trucks and they are riping off London's tourists
01:03:41too. hi there sir, we just want to see have you got a license
01:03:44here, are you? i don't want have you got a license though, have you got a
01:03:48license? have you got one the official council licenses to service cream?
01:03:52yeah, is it not supposed to be displayed for the public? yeah, but it's the
01:03:56public should still be able to see it, i get the your but we should be able. say it just
01:04:00so that we can verify that you are licensed here, he said all he said
01:04:04to me was he's got it, that's it, he's got it
01:04:06right, millions of visitors come to this city every
01:04:10year and they're being targeted by organized migrant groups who see
01:04:14them as easy money, crackdown is supposed
01:04:18to arrive at the end the month, but will it actually make any difference
01:04:22or will these scammers just carry on as usual laughing at the
01:04:26rules whilst they flease another wave of tourists well?
01:04:30investigators editor for the daily express Zack Garnaperkis joins me now zack
01:04:34that was you in there um this is the thing
01:04:36I mean it's right under the noses really the police are not
01:04:40far from this area why why don't they crack
01:04:44down on this or do something well this is a big question right cuz Westminster
01:04:48bridge people might not know that the headquarters the Metropolitan police
01:04:52actually overlooks it so you've got the MPs in parliament
01:04:56that are overlooking this and everything that is going on and then you've got all the police.
01:05:00officers, the thing that surprised me, we went down there to go and look at the
01:05:03scammers, it what was shocking was that
01:05:06there was an organized group that everyone just knew about, we didn't actually go there think knowing,
01:05:10okay there's going to be a gang and they're going to be controlling this, they've all got
01:05:13identical, laminated uh price list with the extortionate
01:05:17prices, they all rush up and push the other uh peticab
01:05:21riders out
01:05:22uh yeah it's it's astounding that it's taking place in that location and you
01:05:26think if it happens there what hope for the rest the country?
01:05:30right, because coming up there'll be, they'll need to have
01:05:33licensing, but so what if nobody is going to check
01:05:37your license? mean, you're probably probably one the first people that's even bothered to
01:05:41go down and ask them questions. well, yeah, exactly. mean,
01:05:44and the tactics that they have are so blunt for you, trying to deal
01:05:48with, it's just, i don't understand english, but you know, it's a
01:05:52ploy, that's how you know, that's what they do when they get questions they don't
01:05:56want, as soon as they get customer in, they understand english plenty well. and
01:06:00yeah, like you, it's simple, a problem that
01:06:04seems simple to solve, but we somehow make it so complicated,
01:06:07right? because even with the ice cream vans, and I know someone used to have ice cream van
01:06:11business, he had to pay a fortune to get the the positioning,
01:06:15the license and everything else like that cost him a fortune, he made very good money, but
01:06:19it's also hygiene, you have to fill these things up with water and you have to go
01:06:23up a good standard of ingredients and so on and so forth, these people are
01:06:26handling food, well actually in the clip that you played, what you
01:06:30don't see is there's a second part to it where we went around the corner, we found someone that had
01:06:34license, i said, oh yeah, what about the one that we just went to? and they said, oh,
01:06:38they just take a penalty, they just took the penalty as the business expense, and when we
01:06:41went back around, we noticed that they had like a sticker just on there, and of
01:06:45course they they they they left as soon as we came, and but they just
01:06:49pop up again, and it's just like the people doing it by the book are the
01:06:53ones that get punished and the people that just ignore the rules kind of
01:06:57just get away with it and are laughing at everyone, so there's actually no deterrent
01:07:01really is there? mean, what's the deter people? that
01:07:05does it get raided at all? do do the police show up? did you get any?
01:07:09in some other burrows right, with stuff like ice cream, they will seize a
01:07:13product and and just make their life really difficult. look, it's a tough one for
01:07:16these local authorities and all the rest
01:07:18of it, they could just it's made so complicated right? i think that's the thing,
01:07:22it's like why can't we just have something simple to tackle all
01:07:25these issues that we've got, why is it so complicated that the police can't?
01:07:30just go look, that's you know, we'll take your vehicle,
01:07:33if you're ripping people off that's not on, exactly, you park your car somewhere you're not going
01:07:37to park your car, not only do they clamp, but think in that burrow cuz i've had it done to me
01:07:41they take your car away. and put it somewhere and you have to find that,
01:07:45go to the car, pay hundreds of pounds and you, maybe maybe you didn't pay
01:07:49for the ticket, maybe the ticket went over, whatever
01:07:50it is, i've come twice now, had my car, i've gone and
01:07:54oh, the car's gone, the car already has gone, these guys, they're not taking the car,
01:07:58they just give them a fine, then they can come back with this vehicle, it's quite obvious to me what they could
01:08:02do, or in the case the pedy cabs right, the police would drive up, they'd sort
01:08:06of clear out, but it'd literally be they'd go from one side the
01:08:09road round to the other side so... just like what is this actually
01:08:13doing? you're moving them on, but it's just it wasn't
01:08:17serving any purpose that was making things better. and do we know um what would happen
01:08:21if you breach the license cuz you said there's a license coming? do we know what the
01:08:25penalties are? have we got any details? well yeah there should be consequences, but this look the thing is
01:08:28again it's TFL transport for London that are going to have to
01:08:32enforce this. now anyone that will have been on the tube will have seen how good
01:08:36TFL are at enforcement with people that just walk through the
01:08:39barriers. so look, I hope that they do a good job. to crack down in it,
01:08:43but let's wait and see, they need a system like the traffic wardens, because
01:08:47they they're kind of good. Peter Blexley, what do you make of this? It's literally under the
01:08:50noses the police, under the noses the the
01:08:54MPs, yeah, no one's bothered. Yeah, well, good work, Zack and thank you, well
01:08:58done. Um, the core problem of so many the
01:09:02ills that we suffer in Britain today, including exactly this kind of
01:09:05stuff, is because the police gave up patrol in the streets,
01:09:09now they will say we had to because we had... other
01:09:12priorities, they have an element of an argument there, but it
01:09:16was certainly no justification for surrendering
01:09:20that beat bobby, that patrolling the street, back in the day
01:09:24those people would have been, and I use the word quite openly,
01:09:27hounded by the police officer whose beat that was, they'd have been
01:09:31stopped and prosecuted one day, stopped and prosecuted the next day and so on
01:09:35and so on and so forth, the streets have of Britain have been
01:09:39surrendered by our police, and these are the problems that are so...
01:09:42manifest across the UK, well I mean the issue
01:09:46for me is that we're now going to introduce load of regulations which have to
01:09:50be police and regulator and inspectors and all that why not just ban them,
01:09:54there is no reason for those pedig car things to exist, they didn't used to
01:09:58exist, now they do, the only people that are using the motoris who are being
01:10:02fleesed and going home with terrible impression of our great city of London
01:10:06so just ban them completely, yeah I'm I understand
01:10:09service, it should be bound, I mean it's kind of like a... they, but they are
01:10:13danger, they are danger on the streets,
01:10:15what is the regulated, like they're supposed to be, there's a license coming out for one,
01:10:19but as we just heard, it's very unlikely that this license is going to be properly
01:10:22enforced, and I think when there's a real health and safety issue, which I also fundamentally
01:10:26believe about these petty cabs, which are constantly in my way when I'm walking through Central
01:10:30London, I don't think the tourists themselves are particularly safe, lot
01:10:33them are often drunk frankly when taking these things, they
01:10:37bl music, health and safety issue and they should absolutely be
01:10:41banned, yeah. "and I think even more so now that we've heard about the sort
01:10:45their business terms which sound absolute extorsion, I didn't realize how bad it was, thank
01:10:49you for the work that you're doing, you're a bit of hero, I'm for sure talking to
01:10:52these people, because if they can't even speak English then, they
01:10:56can't, that's
01:10:57a lie, well, of course they can speak, they can, they
01:11:01have to be up to speak English to understand where they're taking you, where where you want to
01:11:05go, they can speak certain locations are, but no, I
01:11:08really doubt that these, I, I don't, I think it should be absolutely banned." tactic
01:11:12they can speak English or they can speak enough English to understand what you're saying and answer the
01:11:16question and speak to tourists who probably don't speak English, I mean it's an
01:11:20absolute shocker now this it's a racket
01:11:23though so really the police need to get involved TFL yes
01:11:27could be involved in uh making sure these people have whatever paperwork they
01:11:31need but if ultimately it's said like racket then that
01:11:35becomes something which is something the police should be looking at yeah
01:11:38actually so what I would surprise me I've done invest.
01:11:42into the begging gangs and what again people will be familiar with, they'll say this is very
01:11:46obvious, they all have identikit signs and often
01:11:50times you would get people that would go, pick up the signs, go to the different pitches, it's
01:11:54all very hierarchical and the money is going straight out the
01:11:57country. this was essentially the same business model, and what does
01:12:01that link into? well, it doesn't take long when you've got an organized gang,
01:12:05it's organized crime and some pretty nasty people that are involved,
01:12:09so yeah, it might seem like, oh, it's just some tourist getting. but it's where
01:12:13does that lead? it's it's to some very dark places
01:12:16and
01:12:18it but what surprises me is just how open it is they all like to see the
01:12:22organization is how they all got a laminated card with the same pictures
01:12:25on it, the same price structure and they all arrive coordinated at
01:12:29certain times and the speaking each other speaking on the phones, it it's just
01:12:33brazenly obvious and then
01:12:35you speak to the others and they say yeah look the problem is is there's a Romanian gang there that's
01:12:39controlling it yeah and you know what this isn't just p issue
01:12:42a lot of, i don't know if you've encountered, but some these like homeless people who put on
01:12:46acts for example, are actually all in kind of gang type
01:12:50organizations and then all speak each other and like have the same sort of
01:12:54thing going on, 'London is full these organized crimes, actually that's just
01:12:58that's just you know this is the nice stuff, in reality I've been to sentencing hearings
01:13:02where you see really dark stuff that's going on in the underbelly of our city that no one's doing
01:13:06anything about and you know London has a real issue and I
01:13:09think Peter's right to point the fact that it was that it's fundamentally lawlessness and lack of
01:13:13law enforcement as young PC we'd arrest beggers yeah
01:13:17we would arrest people who obstruct in the highway and all that kind of stuff not
01:13:21only did you cut your teeth on policing and dealing with prisons that way
01:13:25'you also kept the streets safe and enjoyable for
01:13:28people, but I repeat, policing has surrendered
01:13:32the streets and that is largely in part to the fluffy, woke,
01:13:36liberal, idiotic generation or to of senior police
01:13:40leaders who have allowed that to happen. We need to get
01:13:44forceful, we need to get firm, and the police need to
01:13:47realize that policing is not a popularity contest, it
01:13:51is policing, and that makes you rampantly unpopular'. lot
01:13:55the time, so be it, get on a job, well aren't they even looking at new
01:13:58legislation so that they can sue the police, people can sue the police,
01:14:02I mean this is just another, I agree, police officers behave badly, there should be
01:14:06punishment, but there already is that, but then given the public the the opportunity to then
01:14:10sue the police, I mean it's just a bit much, I want our police to be utterly
01:14:14accountable, but of course there are degrees,
01:14:18if you will, okay, I want our police to grow a spine
01:14:22once more, to realize that the public. 'in their
01:14:25millions want police officers on the street, they want
01:14:29dross like Zach has been highlighting through his journalistic work, they want
01:14:33them rid the streets, they don't want beggers when they get off the
01:14:37tube or the train, and begging is still an offence, you could scoop them
01:14:41up and get them off the streets if there was the policing and the political
01:14:44will, but this country has gone so far down the fluffy woat
01:14:48liberal drain that I wonder if we're ever going to be able to resolve
01:14:52it, I'm not sure we will.' Anyway Zack so what's the follow-up
01:14:56then from your report? Well actually the next thing we got a
01:15:00couple of things coming out but one the ones
01:15:02that I think people might be interested in is vapes and barber shops
01:15:06and we've found how far that goes and that goes
01:15:09to some yeah some pretty bleek places as well so yeah
01:15:13stay tuned for that wow wow well look thank you very much Zack really
01:15:17good to talk to you Zack a purkis and don't forget his his
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01:22:16only on GB news. Let's move on, big story, backbench MPs are
01:22:20attempting to overturn a court ruling, and they warn could prevent
01:22:24victims of crime from suing police over serious investigative
01:22:28failings. Now, the 2025 court of appeal judgment
01:22:31expanded police immunity from civil claims over their conduct during
01:22:35criminal investigations. Conservative Andrew Mitchell and Labor's
01:22:39Jesss have tabled an amendment to reverse the ruling, including in
01:22:43cases involving dishonesty, fabricated evidence or serious breaches
01:22:47of confidentiality. Well, let's get the thoughts of my panel: former
01:22:51labour special advisor Paul Richards, political commentator Alice Grant,
01:22:54and former Metropolitan police detective, Peter Blexley. Peter, again I must come
01:22:58to you on this first. Yeah, this is a
01:23:02narrow sector of policing that this court of appeal
01:23:05ruling applies to. and it stems from case
01:23:09whereby victim had her address
01:23:12incorrectly included on in papers that got
01:23:16served to an offender to to somebody away a tri
01:23:20had pretty catastrophic consequences for that
01:23:23victim. um, so a court have appeared because the case
01:23:27got bounced around the courts, there was appeal after appeal and so on, and
01:23:30eventually in 2025, the court of appeal ruled
01:23:34that officers couldn't be sued
01:23:37for mistakes made during criminal
01:23:40investigations and such like. now this doesn't mean to
01:23:44say that if a police officer breaks the
01:23:47law, breaches the police disc code or anything like that, they
01:23:51are immune, they most definitely are not, and I
01:23:55want our police to be thoroughly
01:23:58accountable, but there seems to be some agreement on
01:24:02both sides the the political spectrum, the traditional, in so much as that the
01:24:06conservative Andrew Mitchell and the Laboring pe Jess Philips have come
01:24:10together to try and get this immunity lifted, and
01:24:14I can very much see their argument for that, our police do
01:24:18need to be accountable, but... should in certain
01:24:21areas be a degree of protection for officers when they're doing
01:24:25something that we don't do, in other words, when they're holding a gun
01:24:29and perhaps contemplating a split second when to pull the trigger or not, you know,
01:24:33and police drivers in pursuits for example, there needs to
01:24:37be, see that's the problem, isn't it? I get it, but then it
01:24:41opens the door to this, where why would I
01:24:45want to be um firearms officer if I know that if
01:24:49there's some mistake? or something and
01:24:51i and i should be held accountable if i shoot the wrong person, but just say in
01:24:54the case of um that that guy in the car who was driving up and
01:24:58down trying to kill a police officer w he was a very small space uh
01:25:02chris cuber yeah in the case of Chris Kubber that
01:25:05officer was literally run through the ringer and if this had been
01:25:09available then he could be potentially sued and it's
01:25:13yeah this is where we have issue that's why
01:25:14i have issue with it
01:25:15it is challenging it is difficult it's a very messy
01:25:19landscape as to what kind of level of
01:25:22accountability applies to what officer when they're doing what
01:25:26particular role,
01:25:27it is difficult, it's challenging, and once again I don't
01:25:31hesitate to say, it's a messy landscape. well, Aless, you obviously being
01:25:35someone who gets, you working in courts, don't you, so you
01:25:39you know about these sort of cases, my way, the problem with
01:25:42it is, it's it's open to interpretation, absolutely, but I
01:25:46also think there's a degree that we have to recognize that each case will be dealt. with its
01:25:50own merits, so when it comes to this messy
01:25:53landscape, um, when it comes to accountability, I tend
01:25:57to be honestly more um towards holding the state
01:26:00accountable in whatever form, whether it's the police or whether it's in the
01:26:04healthcare system, um, because I fundamentally believe
01:26:08that that that is that is a right that we should have to hold people accountable, especially when
01:26:12that of course going to be miscarages of justice and mistakes that are made that
01:26:15have real consequences on people's lives,
01:26:18and it's often dealing with individuals, in those institutions for example,
01:26:21however, um, so yeah, that that my personal stance is
01:26:25always going to be um, is is that as so in the case that Peter
01:26:29described where the victim's address was left on the paper so
01:26:33that the person, the perpetrator could see that address, yeah, in that
01:26:36case would you think this would be something,
01:26:40that's a real act of negligence, and you know English law
01:26:44provides various redress victims of
01:26:47negligence in such cases so... that exists for reason and I
01:26:51think you know if if something terrible happens to victim because of someone's negligent
01:26:55behavior then that should go through the
01:26:58courts um and justice should be served because
01:27:01ultimately
01:27:02you know these forces are here to protect us and it's not necessarily about
01:27:06denigrating the institutions themselves but just simply
01:27:09providing justice for victims but so then
01:27:13this immunity wouldn't apply in that case anyway no I don't think it should
01:27:17apply no that's fine but then is
01:27:19there any need to to remove it then and is there any is
01:27:22there any need to tamper with it at all, just leave it as
01:27:24it is? if we've got laws that deal with cases anyway, why do we
01:27:28need more? well actually if you look if you well generally
01:27:31speaking, i think um looking at various
01:27:34judgments, the police often have had lot of benefit from
01:27:38immunity, and you know for example the UK
01:27:41um supreme court case of Robinson and Hill changed that when it come came to an old
01:27:45lady who was knocked over by police and some kind of chase and the thing is is that up
01:27:49until that point it very much been the case that the police were immune um
01:27:53from proceedings generally, so we come from a place of very staunch
01:27:57protections for our police, and I think over time we have to
01:28:00recognize um that we should make allowances for victims
01:28:03essentially. All right, Paul Richard, with this? where Well,
01:28:06you I, do Andrew Mitchell and Jesss are serious people, and they're
01:28:09approaching this with the right intent. I mean, the only word of warning I would
01:28:13sound is a general point, not the specific of this law, but the
01:28:17general point is we don't want to get into a situation where... citizens are
01:28:21routinely suing the police getting into a very sort of you
01:28:24know litigious kind of environment where people are very
01:28:28litigious
01:28:31thinking the comparison with health service you know the NHS spends millions and millions
01:28:35of pounds a year dealing with litigation and I think there might be other ways
01:28:38of getting just and getting uh redress
01:28:42and getting accountability into the system without it necessarily being
01:28:46about personal individual suing I think with the NHS I mean
01:28:50you know if they're going around killing people by accident which
01:28:53you know often there case but people but if there are mistakes
01:28:57where people
01:28:58the the consequences are quite severe um you know and people can end up dying what
01:29:02do you like? or not, the way our common law has developed is that we all have individual rights
01:29:06which can be enforced through our courts, and that is just the way it's always been,
01:29:10you know, if you are victim of negligence, whether it's clinical negligence and
01:29:13personal injury case, or whether you are victim of negligence you know by
01:29:17police, then you have a right to sue, and that I don't, I don't think that's
01:29:21kind of untouchable to be honest, but you had that, did you not have that right before anyway
01:29:25with the police, yes, and the police have been sued many, many times over a wide
01:29:29variety of of of matters um, "I think a
01:29:33lot of this could be addressed if the policing
01:29:37structure retained experienced officers, if they
01:29:40were better trained, if there was greater attention to
01:29:44detail and thorrowness, which I find slipping away from so
01:29:48much of public life anyway, so much work done in
01:29:51various parts of public service seems
01:29:54slapdash, even when you come down to the
01:29:58spelling, the grammar, the punctuation and all those kind of
01:30:02things. which are important because so often the devil is
01:30:06in the detail. are we not at risk there of deterring people from becoming police
01:30:09officers? not that they're going to deliberately cause errors and then think oh god
01:30:13I'm going to be, but it just that and also detering them
01:30:17from actually going through with the law, because it almost gives the
01:30:20criminal slightly more power, well I'll see you if you do this and I'll do
01:30:24you what I mean, it's sort of hands more power back to what our
01:30:28police officers should have when they are investigating crime
01:30:32is... sufficient time to do that job
01:30:35properly. I suspect, although I don't have any evidence to support
01:30:39it, but the fact that that address of that victim was inadverting left
01:30:43in report is probably because detective somewhere had such
01:30:47an overbearing workload with so many cases on
01:30:51their desk that sometimes things like mistakes like that
01:30:55do occur. We need sufficient officers with
01:30:59manageable and proper workloads and not have. them
01:31:03works to the point where they go, I've had enough and they
01:31:06resigned, maybe we because the police are now doing lot of paperwork,
01:31:10I think they need more, maybe administrators to do lot of that side of things for them, I
01:31:14guess or something, but it's too much, the too much, I don't know, this this to
01:31:17me, it sounds like the right thing to do, but I i feel it's
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01:35:34right, so the eye paper leads with tax rises needed to
01:35:37plug the 35 billion pound gap.
01:35:41UK economists warn the chancellor, the sun.
01:35:45BBC in strictly transban row, well
01:35:49I haven't actually watched any strictly so I'm interested to find out what that's all about, that's on
01:35:53the sun, the metro Russia rolling
01:35:56Brexit, I wonder what that's about, interesting stuff, we have to have read of
01:36:00that one, let's get the thoughts of my panel, former special advisor Paul Richards,
01:36:04political commentator Alice Grant, and former Metropolitan police
01:36:07detective Peter Blexley. All right, let's start with the
01:36:11front cover the eye, which leads with Taxis. needed to
01:36:15plug the 35 billion pound gap. UK
01:36:19economists are warning the chancellor. do you see here we go again?
01:36:22so once again we're talking about tax rises uh high
01:36:26inflation and UK's defense spending pledge mean that the chancelor
01:36:30faces 35 billion pound budget gap. that's what economists have
01:36:34warned. sticking to the manifesto tax lock whilst meeting
01:36:37spending pressure will be very difficult. that's what the IFS
01:36:41chief tells the I newspaper. even chunky. capital gains
01:36:45tax hike unlikely to suffice, so there we have it, we have
01:36:49it, we knew that they were going to make a mess of it, um, margaret thatcher warned us the
01:36:53problem with socialism and here we are reaping the benefits of it, poor
01:36:57richards, well he's boxed in John Headley as he said
01:37:00with themselves in, they no, well the manifesto pledges you can't, there's
01:37:04three main taxes you can't increase um, and we do know
01:37:08also that there are these spending pressures largely caused by the war uh in
01:37:12Ukraine but also the turmoil in the Middle East as well. with increasing
01:37:16prices and
01:37:16so on, so he's limit is limited in what he can do in the budget, I don't think in the
01:37:20budget we will see massive tax increases though,
01:37:24because he doesn't
01:37:25want to repeat the mistake that Rachel Reeves made of dampening growth, and the one
01:37:29thing that John Healey is all about, if you listen to his speech at the conference last week is
01:37:32growth, they know that without growth the game is over, I
01:37:36didn't hear much about growth, I mean what was he planning to grow, he
01:37:40said that we will grow the economy so we can then use that
01:37:44increased. revenue to pay for the public services we rely on, did he mention
01:37:48any anything about how he was going to grow? well you do it by the private
01:37:52sector being boosted and that's how you have to do it, which is what all of this
01:37:55infrastructure spending is all about, it's about growth in every post code, this is the
01:37:59light motif the government, hoping every heart,
01:38:02i don't think the private sector is going to be able to grow with taxes slapped on
01:38:06people like capital gains and business tax which we've
01:38:10seen and taxing employees and
01:38:13this is not how you grow economy. "I'm
01:38:15not an economist, but I can kind of tell that we've been doing something wrong, and I
01:38:19think, the absolute chaos over Liz Trust's budget, which
01:38:23actually in hindsight seems to be like much more beneficial way to grow economy, if
01:38:27you actually want to stimulate business and stimulate growth and incentive people to
01:38:30work appointed the guy that wrote that to be her shadow
01:38:33chancellor, socialism isn't working,
01:38:37labor isn't working, but at least Andrew Griffitz has
01:38:40an idea, I mean John Healey couldn't, but we tried the idea,
01:38:44we never tried." couldn't even work out how many ships we had when he was the defense
01:38:48secretary, then he he resigned a point of principle that there wasn't enough
01:38:52money being spent on the chancelor has not mentioned how
01:38:56he's going on. treasury when Gordon Brown was there growing the
01:38:59economy 2.8% every single quarter the labor government and that's what we need to get back to
01:39:03you're talking about Gordon Brown what about now Peter you're the
01:39:07language that you and your political types
01:39:10use is so deeply insult in to the
01:39:14audience to the general public you just said the chancellor is
01:39:18boxed in no no he's bound
01:39:22by this labor chancellor is bound by labor
01:39:26manifesto. "that's all it is boxed in, you're trying to make it
01:39:30like some kind of like you're excuse-finder general,
01:39:33like this was forged by somebody else, like this is not
01:39:37labor's fault, labor wrote the manifesto, labor got
01:39:41elected on that and he's got to live with it, yeah, but if you then broke those
01:39:45pledges you'd be the first to say, oh you have a manifesto, then you've breached your promises
01:39:49and a bunch of lier
01:39:50and all the rest of it, call that would say call a general election, i think people are paying enough
01:39:54tax and i don't want to see i don't want to see income tax go up" the rules by
01:39:58which you have been voted in for and there were strict rules in your manifesto and
01:40:02that's what people voted for because they thought you were going to do that
01:40:06when you are not even the elected prime minister the day at the time
01:40:09you
01:40:10have but he's not doing that is he that's the whole point won't increase v8 it won't increase
01:40:14income tax because that's the manifesto
01:40:17on which now after the election what goes into the next manifesto
01:40:21who knows we're not there yet but at the moment they are boxed in well you might
01:40:25not be writing th
01:40:27it you might might not write the winning manifesto at the next election, well then
01:40:31we'll go back to the the lettis and uh slashing the state and
01:40:34no, it might be maybe another party that writes, it may be
01:40:38some other party that writes the winning manifesto police officers
01:40:42off the streets, we shall have to wait and see is a massive mistake, we shall have to
01:40:46wait and see, well well let's have look at the front cover the metro then this one leads
01:40:50with Russia roll in Brexit, Andy Burnham has
01:40:54said that there is clear evidence that Russia, interfered
01:40:58in the Brexit vote, he said that he had asked if
01:41:01the Kremlin had meddled in the 2016 referendum
01:41:05when he entered number 10 in July and was given the clear
01:41:09answer that yes there was,
01:41:11as if Russia are going to tell you all of that. I mean, I'm
01:41:15sorry, but I think this is all setup so that you can now move on and say
01:41:19right, it's time to have another vote on Brexit because it was Russia's fault that the British
01:41:23people voted for sovereignty. British people aren't stupid, I i'm bored of seeing this.
01:41:27as if they think that we're stupid uh, I voted for Brexit because I
01:41:31wasn't happy with the situation, I wanted sovereignty, I wanted us to be making our own laws, how's
01:41:35that going? well, well I wanted us to be doing that, let tell you why I voted for them first and then
01:41:39then i'll explain how it's going, it's going badly because the people because
01:41:42of this obfiscation and distraction and and all the people around who didn't want it to
01:41:46happen, you've done everything in their power to make sure it doesn't happen and they're not prepared to
01:41:50uh, there's no will, which is you, I'd also
01:41:52say that I'd much rather that our bad mistakes are being made
01:41:56by politic.
01:42:13We are poor and less free than 10 years
01:42:16free, my challenge to prime minister
01:42:20Burnham is very, very simple, if there's the evidence, show us
01:42:24please, so perhaps we can. we can
01:42:28perhaps act accordingly, let's see the evidence, but the idea that the Russians are not
01:42:31interfering, we know they are, they're bribing politicians, they're hacking into our
01:42:35systems, they're paying - and
01:42:39assassinations and espionage and sabotage and it's
01:42:43happening on our behalf, so the British people voted, are you saying that they sent
01:42:47some stuff on social media that convince people
01:42:50that is the other way round for there is
01:42:54an enormous amount of evidence
01:42:56of th the other
01:42:57way around
01:43:05so loser,
01:43:05and if there is another vote, we're going to vote for Brexit again, so bring as an old
01:43:09as an old school former detective, I say
01:43:12once again, show us the evidence, so therefore if there was
01:43:16concrete evidence of that interference, we can protect
01:43:19against it in future elections, it's really very simple, well it's
01:43:23also said that the similar sort of interference and activities were taken. bas in
01:43:27France and Germany, so the prime minister told the rest is politics
01:43:31podcast, the external that upon arriving in number 10, he had
01:43:35asked about possible Russian interference in the 2016 vote, adding,
01:43:39I've had clear answer that there was yes, okay, from
01:43:43here, that's why we all did it, then the Russians told us to
01:43:45do it, then we just thought, well okay, the Russians are interfering, but everyone's
01:43:48interfering with everything, I think, um, you talk about China's interference,
01:43:52maybe next Andy, all right, well coming up more of
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01:47:25express migrant gang scam is sign of broken
01:47:29britain, of course that's the whole gangs, the petty cabs we had um
01:47:33sat karna percus on talking about that, you can uh check out the full store
01:47:37and the front cover the daily express and Star leads
01:47:41letus liz iceberg ahead. Yes, that is of course the
01:47:45chancellor urged to steady the ship. Trust Star crash
01:47:48can happen again. I think we're doing it but in slow motion. Uh,
01:47:52on the mail, Boris Blass sickening Trump deal with
01:47:56Putin. Front cover the met the mirror. Hero tried to save
01:47:59him. This of course that tragic incident of that horror attack at
01:48:03the tiger park. Of course the tiger is tiger, so if you climb into the enclosure,
01:48:07it's probably likely to try and savage you ' the guardian heat
01:48:11pump subsidy to be cut to fund defense plan, well there you go, this is what we
01:48:15thought would happen with net zero, independent, the independent
01:48:18now, independent then, independent then,
01:48:22independent now, telegraph lead with Putin breaks Trump's
01:48:25seas far, let's get the thoughts of my panel, former labor special
01:48:29advisor Paul Richards, political commentator Alice Grant,
01:48:33and former Metropolitan police detective peter Blexley, all
01:48:36right, let's start with, should we start with the front cover the...
01:48:40guardian, let's have look at it now, what we got in the guardian? oh here we
01:48:43go, heat f subsidy to the cut to fund
01:48:47defense plan, of course nobody's buying heat pumps are because they're
01:48:51extionate and they don't work in the housing stock that we have, very stupid
01:48:55idea uh executed with nearly thicking confidence
01:48:58by conservatives and of course the labour party, mean this is a
01:49:02government which if you don't if you're a call cut the aid
01:49:05budget to fund defense in under the starmer and is now going to be doing
01:49:09some not dissimilar with this sort of net zero heat pump
01:49:13subsidy to to fund defense, because it makes the bigger point, we
01:49:17must get our defense spending up to the
01:49:21NATO average. "and we've got to defend ourselves and the rest
01:49:25the west against Russian imperialism. could we get our welfare
01:49:28budget down? yeah, that would be nice.
01:49:30we need to do that as well, we need to get people into work, don't we, so they're paying taxes and not
01:49:34taking welfare benefits, not taking the what?
01:49:37oh, I thought you going to say something else, but the
01:49:41point being we need to increase our defense expenditure, that's that's the bottom line
01:49:45by you, almost any means necessary, and this is what this is a good example of. well, miata
01:49:49fampular, she's the energy secretary, she's got the job of finding..."
01:49:53uh more than 30 billion or two billion actually
01:49:57department department
01:49:58being
01:49:58each asked so yeah to come up with the money i agree but each
01:50:01department the welfare i think is the biggest department
01:50:04that there is a real problem again john
01:50:08hely speech said the the moral stain of nearly million people uh
01:50:12young people not not it is ridiculous i would
01:50:15personally look at um some form of national service for that's what i said
01:50:19you said that last time what do you think some form of
01:50:23national service to get the young people who say that they can't get a job, either find a job
01:50:27or you serve do some national service? yeah, i think that'd be very good for moral and also
01:50:31patriotism, which is a real crisis,
01:50:32i think among young people, because we never really been taught to love this
01:50:36country and to,
01:50:37you know, and whilst i'm generally very anti-worn, think a lot of my generation
01:50:41don't see the point in in these pointless conflicts, um,
01:50:45it is absolutely a good thing to do, i think ultimately to increase
01:50:49patriotism, the way you prevent war, is by having strong is the
01:50:53deterrent effects of having a large army and nuclear defense and the ability to
01:50:57strike back and that's why you stop wars, but look, look what we've done over the
01:51:00decades, we've completely destroyed like our ability to defend
01:51:03ourselves, so this is the thing i think we're in such crisis because we
01:51:07need have the ability to properly defend ourselves if
01:51:10there was a war, please god may the never be, but at the same
01:51:13time like people can't afford
01:51:16you to live in this country anymore, cost of living crisis is so high,
01:51:19please, please don't burden. our wonderful
01:51:23military with the workshire, the flaky, the fluffy,
01:51:27the bone idol and the lazy, it would
01:51:31be getting young people to do, it doesn't have to be the war
01:51:34side of it, it could be helping make something or build something or
01:51:38doing, i wouldn't have them doing
01:51:42any of that, i'd have them in uniform getting up at 4 am, but you could
01:51:45tr and learning discipline, beleagared military has
01:51:48enough
01:51:49of a job its hand to try to function as well as it possibly? and
01:51:53because the affor mentioned cuts, I agree, to suddenly burden
01:51:56them would try and knock the bone idle in the shape, would detract them
01:52:00from their primary job, which is to defend this
01:52:04nation, if you're thinking perhaps of some form of
01:52:07territorial community type of
01:52:11uh thing, then I'm certainly be open to
01:52:14b,
01:52:19so so you're going to drag somebody a youngster. "now I've got
01:52:23anxiety so I can't go to work, you're you would have
01:52:27to drag them off the sofa then they'd sue you for assault or prosecute for
01:52:31salt right, then you probably have to dry their urin stain freaking
01:52:35jogging bottoms right, then you've got to get them a bus somewhere
01:52:39and oh could you imagine oh my
01:52:41word find a
01:52:44job
01:52:46exactly exactly the anxiety would be like oh
01:52:49oh fine not feeling so
01:52:53anxious, well don't burn the military with that please, but I think honestly I
01:52:57mean the anxiety epidemic I think is it just a shocker, I
01:53:01mean if you got anxiety surely you're better off going to work than ruminating
01:53:04about your anxiety and when has that ever helped anybody, it's just absolute
01:53:08shocker. All right, what should we look at next? should we look at the front cover
01:53:12the male? Boris blast, sickening Trump deal with
01:53:16Putin,
01:53:17now this is of course uh an exclusive for the mail uh, he
01:53:21is calling on the roll name. to intercept Russia's diesel and says that US
01:53:25bank rolls slaughter, but I think it's kind of hypocritical really, because at the end
01:53:29the day Europe, many countries in Europe are still buying oil
01:53:33from Putin, so I'm looking at
01:53:35this sing yeah, but they are even Trump warned Germany and
01:53:38said, you need to stop buying all from this man, you're funding the war. The
01:53:42idea that we should intercept Russian fuel ships
01:53:46is utterly ridiculous. Why? Why is it?
01:53:50Because on an other front page. we have a 35 billion
01:53:54apparently black hole in our finances, mean why would we be
01:53:58so reckless? i think it's very reckless of for us to be saying stuff like
01:54:01this, well i think
01:54:03the mean fundamentally logical, i've not read his article, but what i imagine he's suggesting
01:54:07is that the money that would be raised on the open markets from this diesel cell will
01:54:11go straight to the kremlin and fund the war in
01:54:14Ukraine which is against our interests. wasn't some kind of
01:54:18fuel ceasefire announced by president trump this afternoon?
01:54:22stuff up, doesn't he? but didn't Zelensky apparently agree to it? no,
01:54:26he didn't, and Zelensky in fact is on the front page is saying, I don't know what you're talking about,
01:54:30yeah, I don't,
01:54:31I don't think
01:54:31we can, he says literally whatever comes in. no
01:54:35filter at all, don't worry bause these guys are staying because we got a whole load more news
01:54:39to bring you up next, it's alex armstrong tonight late edition,
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02:00:25Armstrong, tonight, late edition. Uh, we are, we do stand
02:00:29full square with Ukraine, we have done since the outbreak of this
02:00:33war. Russia has already broken President
02:00:37Trump's energy ceast far, attacking a Ukrainian power
02:00:40station. As Boris Johnson blast sickening Trump deal with
02:00:43Putin, urging the Royal Navy to intercept Russian fuel ships.
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