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00:00:50of of a dial warning to voters of stating, britain will not exist without deportations to
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00:00:53in the invasion has he called it. Nigel Farage threatened a
00:00:56five-year blockade on
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00:01:10of plan yet, but is it a step too far? I
00:01:14asked the question coming into Downing Street, well was there
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00:01:20of I've of had of of of the clear answer that yes there
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00:01:27of in dear, oh dear, Nigel Farage has Brandon, Annie Burnham, liar today after the prime minister. told a
00:01:30of left-wing podcast that
00:01:32of Russia interfered with the Brexit vote with the Prime Minister due to address
00:01:36a parliament of in around 30 minutes time, he's expected to claim that
00:01:39rejecting closer European Union ties would be
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00:01:46a a a derelliction of duty, make no mistake, viewers and
00:01:46of listeners, the battle for Brexit is
00:01:48of back on, it's raging and we'll be live from the commons
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00:01:58of a the of UK, of they can of course be forgiven of for of thinking of the Falkland's war. was over in 1982, but
00:02:02if you come here to the islands and you speak to local people, they
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00:02:10in GB news, Marco Blanco Exclusive, islanders on the Falklands have extended
00:02:14invitation to the US president Donald Trump to
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00:02:37of of what won of it? Let's of face it, it's the biggest
00:02:39of of the Romaniac myths, an absolute fantasy,
00:02:41of foundationless, of baseless, of no evidence has existed during
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00:02:54a no idea, not a
00:02:55of scuby of do of what they were voting for, they were brainwashed into it by
00:02:59of the of by the..."
00:03:01a and of now Andy Burnham today has resurrected,
00:03:09in of a a of assumed that fantasy, that foundationless
00:03:11of of fantasy of and and put
00:03:14of a it forward as a truth, of in about 25, five of minutes time the prime minister will address the commons, he's expected to
00:03:17of demand closer
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00:03:23of of of in in now in if in he wants
00:03:25of in to put that forward, a, it's a complete you turn from where he was on his position on the Makerfield by election, but
00:03:25of also of to dig up
00:03:28a fantasies like the Kremlin
00:03:29of win it, 'I put it to you, these are not the actions
00:03:31of of a prime minister, they're the actions of a conspiracy theorist, of a
00:03:35podcaster, of an activist. Get in touch,
00:03:38gbnews.com/yorsays away to do so, or
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00:03:50a of a Martin, thank of you, good
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00:03:54of a a a of top
00:03:57of in of stories from the GB News room at 3 minutes past three. Andy Burnam will tell MPs it would
00:03:58in be a dereliction of'. not to seek new deal with the European
00:04:03of Union. me In address to the House of Commons today, Andy Burner will argue it's time to
00:04:06face up to the reality that Brexit
00:04:08of has done more harm than good, and the
00:04:11of of of status of quo is not good enough for
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00:04:13a He'll call on all parties to support the government's approach and seeking
00:04:19of a of closer relationship with the EU, arguing the move could
00:04:23of of help control immigration and a boost growth. Well, meanwhile, Downing Street has
00:04:25of clarified a
00:04:26of the Brexit result was legitimate, it's after Andy Burnham said. there was
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00:04:39of understood Russia's involvement was not successful in interfering
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00:04:44of result. in Nigel Farage has promised
00:04:46a to introduce five-year ban on migrants being granted
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00:04:51of win the next general election. At a press conference in Kent earlier, he
00:04:55announced plans to shut down the asylum system for a full
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00:05:14extraordinary current government line, well the numbers are
00:05:18coming down so that's okay then, it's only 20,000
00:05:22this year, so that's okay then, if i said to you decade ago
00:05:2520,000 people first nine months would be processed through the
00:05:29port of dover, having come by dingy, you literally
00:05:33wouldn't have believed me, vladimir zelensky has accused
00:05:37Russia of striking a Ukrainian power plant and energy facilities
00:05:41just hours after. Donald Trump claimed an energy ceasefire was
00:05:45in place. In a post on Truth Social, the US president claimed
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00:05:52infrastructure. The Kremlin claims so that conversations about a possible
00:05:56cease fire between Russia and Ukraine were ongoing, but they have
00:06:00said Russia wouldn't carry out any strikes on Ukraine on election day
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00:07:45"thank you bet. now Nigel Farals, the leader of reform UK of course has today
00:07:49pledge the five year ban on migrants being granted asylum in Britain
00:07:52if reform UK wins the next general election. all we're
00:07:56asking here is formality. all we're asking here is
00:08:00for normal service to be resumed. and
00:08:04so yes, we will end the asylum system for
00:08:08up to five years and why are we going to do that? because we're..."
00:08:13the most terrible mess as a country, we literally have no
00:08:16idea who is here, and we
00:08:19frankly can't afford to take the
00:08:23risk. Mr. Farage also
00:08:26reports 90,000 people asylum waiting lists at
00:08:30present, and also all foreign criminals whilst also
00:08:33threatening to impose visa bans on Pakistan. We will
00:08:37deport foreign criminals and those who are here
00:08:40illegally. And... about time we started standing up for
00:08:44ourselves, it's about time we started put our own
00:08:48national priorities first. In the case of Pakistan, that we have
00:08:52to bring in visa bans, we'll do so. If
00:08:56it means threatening Pakistany nationals assets.
00:09:00In London, we will do so. If it means introducing flight
00:09:04bands, we will do so.
00:09:08Well, it was certainly Nigel Farad's most radical plan yet and
00:09:12discuss. I'm delighted to be joined in the studio today in the heart of Westminster by GB News's
00:09:15chief political correspondent Katherine Forster. GB News a senior political
00:09:19commentator Nigel Nelson and as ever delight to be joined by the founder the
00:09:23Sanctuary foundation Chris Kendi. Welcome to you all.
00:09:27Katherine, let's start with you. We just want to be normal
00:09:30country. Nigel Pharaoh said adding Britain
00:09:34cannot be refuge for the world. They will be no Britain
00:09:38nations was the line, visa bands,
00:09:42travel. bands, tariff threats, trade wars
00:09:45and the immediate deportation of 90,000 presently
00:09:49languishing on the asylum waiting this, it's
00:09:52certainly the most radical plan reform UK has put forward this
00:09:56far, yes it is, and they've shifted quite a long way, because it was only, I
00:09:59think last summer that um, I went to a press conference where they
00:10:03had the massive deportation board like getting a flight, was very
00:10:07effectively done, but that was when they
00:10:11started to say we... will deport people, but only few months previously
00:10:15Nigel Farash had said that it was just impossible that it just
00:10:19couldn't be done, so there's been a real, real shift,
00:10:23I think, well, many problems. how do
00:10:25you do this, how do you pay for it, how do you get people to vote for
00:10:29it? but
00:10:31you know, there's a risk that in trying
00:10:34to, what I think this is, is trying to appeal
00:10:38to people tempted by restore who are obviously causing massive
00:10:42problems uh for reform because they're getting four, five,
00:10:456% uh, they are stopping them winning council seats, they
00:10:49could potentially stop them winning dozens of seats a general
00:10:53election, and in... trying to sort of go towards those
00:10:56voters, there's a real danger that they will put off
00:11:00lots of more moderate people who might be tempted to go for
00:11:04reform, but just think this is just too
00:11:08far, and also yes we've got large numbers of people coming across the
00:11:12channel illegally, some of those are coming, let's face it to do us harm, we
00:11:16have seen it, um, but we're not the only country
00:11:19struggling with this, the whole of Europe has
00:11:23people breaking into it. um, because there's millions of
00:11:27people that would like to come and live here, we're very, very
00:11:31lucky, and now many them are getting the means and the money and the
00:11:35way with all to get in. Nigel Nelson, on the politics of
00:11:39this, Chris, before I come to you if I may, Europe as a continent
00:11:43is invariably, inexorably now swinging towards the
00:11:46right, we're seeing this at present, the elections due in France,
00:11:50in Spain, in Austria, in Germany, the continent has
00:11:54changed. "and the driving ethos behind that change is and controlled
00:11:58immigration, is the associated crime and terrorism? is
00:12:02Nigel Farage actually being out there when he's saying this
00:12:06or
00:12:06is he just following public mood? I mean across the continent, the mood is
00:12:09calsifying against what he would call this invasion. what it
00:12:13seems to be happening is he's got his eye more on the uh on the
00:12:16domestic situation. what he's doing here
00:12:20is what what is that all three the the parts the right are
00:12:23doing is..." trying to outdo each other when it comes to migration,
00:12:27so um, what Nigel Farage announced today is purely
00:12:31a direct lift from what Restore came up with a
00:12:35policy document back in February, um, we've got the
00:12:39shadow home secretary Chris Philp going on about, oh, they've just nick the policy from
00:12:43us, everybody is trying to be more extreme than the other when it comes
00:12:47to to immigration, I stream or just delivering what on
00:12:51the electorate, demanding.
00:12:55years, we've got to a stage now where there is where it's almost become a
00:12:59hysteria which is surrounding here, um, so you have
00:13:03things like um, over the weekend a Bollywood
00:13:06film crew arriving a hotel were mistaken for illegal
00:13:10migrants moving
00:13:11in, this is what's
00:13:15happening out there though, what this is, what
00:13:18about what this is encouraging is
00:13:22people people becoming obsessed by some? thing they should, they
00:13:26needn't be obsessed by, um, and that's what's going on, that's
00:13:30what things like this do. Krish, let's bring you in
00:13:33now, are you concerned about the
00:13:36breathth of this scheme, because it does say, for example, the
00:13:39Ukraine scheme would be taken away, but less we
00:13:43forget, schemes like Hong Kong, schemes
00:13:47like Ukraine were never meant to be come to Britain and stay forever,
00:13:51asylum is meant to be a temporary state of transit, and when it's...
00:13:55say to return, sure, you can return, so it's not fair to say that this is
00:13:59throwing Ukrainians under the bus, is it? it is if um, they're being asked to
00:14:03return to an unsafe country, you can see the bombing is continuing in
00:14:06Ukraine. look, i just came back from Jerusalem yesterday
00:14:10and i was reminded again in 1939, very
00:14:14difficult time economically for our country, we were in threat of invasion from
00:14:18the nazis and yet we still thought it was okay to take
00:14:2210,00 Jewish children, that's what British people do,
00:14:31illegals, it's not the same. I don't think we've taken 200,000 illegals, we've taken
00:14:34200,000 from Ukraine, we stepped up, we saw a neighbor in
00:14:38need, we helped Afghans, 25,00, people that had
00:14:42served our troops, um, and we took in
00:14:44some people from Hong Kong because the clamp down and freedoms there, but a blanket
00:14:48ban on all asylum seekers, that doesn't sound British to me,
00:14:52that sounds like we're pulling up the draw bridge and saying that someone else is problem: I think we
00:14:56need to play our part, we don't need to take everybody, but we need to play our part, haven't
00:15:00we played our part for long enough, and in big enough
00:15:03numbers, have we not been welcoming, but for
00:15:06decades, and is it not the job, the responsibility, perhaps
00:15:10of nations nearer to these conflict zones to pull the b, why should
00:15:14it be the role of Britain to take in refugees from Palestine when they could
00:15:18be in the middle east, more culturally aligned, geographically nearer, so when the conflict
00:15:22is over it's easier for them to return. Why is it always our job?
00:15:26No, you make a good point, Martin, and actually statistically, most
00:15:29refugees do stay close to the country as they leave, so I
00:15:33was in um Egypt just after the Sudan war erupted.
00:15:37'and Egypt took a huge number of Sudanese refugees, we've taken very
00:15:41few, I i don't think we should say we're doing nothing, when
00:15:45we're asking other countries, poorer countries to do more, I think it's
00:15:49about fair play, playing our part, not taking too many, but not taking
00:15:53none, Catherine, let's return to the politics of this, because
00:15:57it's getting very, very political, battle loans are being drawn
00:16:00already for a general election, everybody's talking about it in Westminster, everybody
00:16:04thinks now that there's going to be some kind of early whistleblowing'. "know when,
00:16:08it could be May, could be Christmas, but certainly we're seeing
00:16:12clear blue water, whether you like it or not now, between the parties on
00:16:15Brexit, we're going to go to the
00:16:17to the commons in about 10 minutes time, the man, Andy Burnham, said he would
00:16:21never revisit the Brex, Brexit referendum is about to
00:16:25do that, on immigration, we're seeing labor
00:16:28unable to be tough on the indefinite leave to her main
00:16:32plans of Shabon Mami, because Angela Reiner in the back benchers won't have it, so we
00:16:36all seeing..." clear blue water if you like between the parties, do you feel
00:16:40like this is because a general election is in the air? well, I must say
00:16:44for a long time I thought it was ridiculous the idea of a general
00:16:48election, because uh labor are not far enough ahead
00:16:52to get majority and I still think until that changes they'd be mad,
00:16:55but clearly the economic situation is only getting worse, Andy
00:16:59Burnham is probably as popular as he's ever going to be, because they're kicking lots
00:17:03of difficult decisions into the long grass uh, but sooner or later...
00:17:07going to have to make them, but it was really when he stood up in Liverpool and
00:17:11gave that speech uh, about social care, um,
00:17:15looking again at Brexit and electoral
00:17:19reform,
00:17:20all things that he would need his own mandate for,
00:17:23most the speech was devoted to stuff he can't
00:17:27do without a general election, and at that point I started to think,
00:17:31oh, are you really going to not do any of this for three
00:17:35years, so I think they will wait until...
00:17:38'30 percent a bit above and seven points clear of
00:17:42reform or the tories and then they will and then they will go, but
00:17:45you know there's polling out suggesting that three quarters of labor
00:17:49voters would like Andy Burnham to put talks on
00:17:53rejoining the European Union in the next
00:17:56manifesto, it's astonishing you, it really
00:18:00really is, we we have a you turn from Andy burn that that securm can only
00:18:04dream of, literally on the on the stump on the day'. he won in
00:18:08makafield saying, "I will honor, I will honor the referendum,
00:18:11everything must pass the Makerfield test. Now it's all about
00:18:15Russia and Alice the Camble and the fantasies of
00:18:18romaniacs, it's a shambles. Well, I'm not sure which fantasies of
00:18:22Romaniacs you're talking about. Russia, well put in the strings. Russia
00:18:26has been trying for zero evidence. Russia has been tr, there is evidence that
00:18:30Russia has been trying to underm for years. What we don't know, when Andy, we
00:18:34don't know what Andy Burnam was referring to when he said that he been..." told
00:18:38there is evidence or who that evidence belongs to, but
00:18:41Russia has been undermining us constantly, they want to cause
00:18:45division, and it would be astonishing if when Brexit, the Brexit
00:18:49vote was going ahead, they didn't intervene then, it was in
00:18:53the foreign policy interests the creming for Europe to split
00:18:57up, and Brexit was an absolute dream for for uh President
00:19:01Putin, it's like time has stood
00:19:04still, it's like we've slipped through a wormhole.
00:19:08and the Kremlin is back, Putin is back, 17.4 million
00:19:12people out there, none of you knew what you're voting for, it was Kremlin what, it
00:19:16was the Kremlin what won it, it was Putin who told you how to
00:19:20vote, he made your minds up for you,
00:19:23ludicrous, it's totally, it doesn't mean
00:19:26it worked, all I'm saying is that it would be astonishing if Russia
00:19:30hadn't tried that, seriously, you need to give your head
00:19:34wobble, the prime minister does, the fact that
00:19:38we actually have this conversation again, unless there's a fresh dossier of
00:19:42evidence beyond what we saw in 2020 when x
00:19:45twitter was summons to parliament and even they could only say there were
00:19:49942 tweets from all of
00:19:52russia, the entire continent, less than a thousand
00:19:56tweets, 461 retweets, i could get that before the end
00:20:00the show, it's absurd, it's absurd, and
00:20:04the fact the prime minister is indulging in this, i think is to the
00:20:07office,
00:20:08I sincerely do, well, I mean, if you look look at the the evidence that
00:20:12we do know about, um, Russian bots are being churned
00:20:16out about at 144 a day, there's a
00:20:20NATO unit in Riga monitoring the whole thing, we
00:20:24know they're coming from Russia, what they're trying to do is to st
00:20:27st up racial hatred in this country, try and start
00:20:31riot, okay, we have there, chrish, superb, katherine, we got three hours of
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00:25:49Welcome. time is 25 pas 3 with me Martin Dorbly here on GV News now very
00:25:53shortly the Prime Minister Andy Burnham will make a statements to MPs in the House
00:25:57of Commons where he's expected to pledge even closer
00:26:00ties with the European Union. and all of this comes of course as he's
00:26:04claimed the Russia interfered in the 2016
00:26:07referendum, you can see their live pictures from the commons will be straight across there when
00:26:11Andy Burnham takes to the dispatch box, but before
00:26:15that let's have some analysis here and delighted to be joined by GB News's
00:26:19chief political correspondent Katherine Forster and also GB News's senior
00:26:23political commentator Nalson, I'm delighted to be joined by the member the House of
00:26:26Lords, Baroness Kate hoey, Kate hoey of course one the
00:26:30legends, the standard beareers. of Brexit, Kate
00:26:33Hoe, can you Adam and Eve it, once again, here we
00:26:37are, 10 years on, they're still saying it's the
00:26:41Kremlin what won it, I can't believe Andy Burnham's gone
00:26:44there, what say you, well I, I mean it's almost laughable, but at the same
00:26:48time actually I'm quite angry about it, because I think for the prime minister to
00:26:52be coming out and making that kind of statement a a whatever you
00:26:56call it blog or television thing with
00:26:59um... people, um,
00:27:03it really does make me angry, because I think it's so insulting, it's insulting to all
00:27:07those people who voted to leave, it's insulting
00:27:10to the the overall democratic nature of that
00:27:14referendum result, and the idea that and you just have
00:27:18to look at some the comments on on on x about it from
00:27:22people saying, yes, that's um, of course we were
00:27:25being, marched into the uh, in into
00:27:29the to make our ballot, to make our vote by these um, Russians and
00:27:33you know the whole thing has just become ridiculous. now all
00:27:37foreign governments were obviously interested in what was happening, but I think there's
00:27:41a lot more influence coming into
00:27:44trying to change and make people vote remain coming from
00:27:48the EU itself of course, America, Obama, all
00:27:52of that um and and then all the international economic
00:27:56bodies were coming in and trying to influence and the idea that somehow
00:28:00the Russians is it's just ridiculous, but really do think that
00:28:04he should have to, he's produced no evidence, he said nothing really about
00:28:07that, and I think he should apologize to the British people and the
00:28:1117 and a half million people who brought it to leave, and you make an excellent point about
00:28:15foreign interference, gy Verhofstad turned up on British
00:28:19saw to campaign for the remain cane case, no one
00:28:23bangs on about that, an elected representative the European Union on British
00:28:27soil knocking on doors in London, that never gets
00:28:30dragged up, but but mean
00:28:33this is a this is, mean it is almost like a conspiracy of a little
00:28:37group of people who have never given up, never given up on the idea that
00:28:41they want to take us back into the European Union, and with no
00:28:45understanding really still, i think of why
00:28:48people, people from all backgrounds and all ages and
00:28:52all, political persuasions actually voted to leave, they don't
00:28:56seem to understand that, and they keep push, push, pushing by
00:28:59thinking that if they just keep on at it, eventually...
00:29:03um, a politician will give in, and it looks like Andy Burnham is going to be the
00:29:06politician that gives in and
00:29:09you know wants to take us back in. You're exactly right to say it's almost like the kind of
00:29:12Japanese soldiers of Romain that keep fighting
00:29:16on even though the war is over, but on the serious
00:29:19point of Kremlin interference, Russian
00:29:23bots, Vladimir Putin himself, as
00:29:27as an experience campaigner across the Brexit referendum, will you
00:29:31ever presented? any credible evidence that this happened
00:29:34because there was a commons inquiry um where twitter was
00:29:38summons to the commons and it came out just said there there were
00:29:42942 tweets in the entire referendum before the vote,
00:29:45less than a
00:29:46thous tweets, 461 retweets,
00:29:500.02% of people on
00:29:53twitter would have seen it, let alone the wider elector, but still they
00:29:57maintain people voted for Brexit because they were told by the
00:30:00cremin, it strikes a third, I don't, I just think the
00:30:04vast majority the public will just see this for what it is,
00:30:08and will think it's nonsense, and will, I hope share my
00:30:12anger really, I would say, and I think I'm sure you
00:30:16probably said it already, but
00:30:17you know, you could not have seen Kier Starmer even doing this in this in this way, he
00:30:21wouldn't have come out like this, I mean it just, it's just
00:30:24unbelievable, and also I wonder what the voters of Makerfield are
00:30:28thinking of this, it's a fair point, it's an excellent point, just like...
00:30:32on your screen to remind these are pictures from the house guys, we are expecting
00:30:35to take the dispatch box shortly, the prime minister expected to
00:30:38deliver his thoughts on Brexit, we know
00:30:42at party conference
00:30:43he said Brexit has done more harm than good, um another complete you turn
00:30:47from what he said on the campaign trail in Makerville, less we
00:30:51forget 0.86% the total British electorate put Andy
00:30:54Burnham in power, he's now a prime minister, he's in u-turn on
00:30:58Brexit, the secur would be proud of, Katherine Force. think this
00:31:02reinforces something that we talk about lot on this channel and have since it's inception
00:31:06and myself on other channels before it started, this
00:31:09lot in parliament they think they know better than the
00:31:13electorate, they never do what they're told. they hated Brexit, 75%
00:31:16them at the time voted to remain, I'll warrant now, it's more like
00:31:2090% of this lot, I bet you about 90% the people in there would
00:31:24like to rejoin or all our romanias, they are not representative the country, I think
00:31:28it's a total and nutter insult that they're banging on about
00:31:31rejoining when that's done, it's finished, it's through the hoop, let it
00:31:35go, many millions of people will agree
00:31:39with you that you know we had those Brexit
00:31:43chaos, the... years of nothing happening, they
00:31:47voted against every possible outcome, the hardline
00:31:50brexiteers and the hardline remaineers and all the rest of it, you know, it was
00:31:54horrible, all these other deep-seated problems that are
00:31:58not being addressed and still are not being addressed, and we
00:32:02have a prime minister who let's face it was elected by 25,000
00:32:05people in Makerfield, as you said, elected, telling
00:32:09them, I'm not proposing the United Kingdom should consider rejoining the
00:32:13EU, it would undermine... everything I said about
00:32:16strengthening democracy if we do not respect that vote, he
00:32:20said that on television in leads during the campaign, he
00:32:24separately wrote for the times talking about Tony Blair's essay
00:32:28and said he was not proposing revisiting devisive
00:32:31arguments about the European Union, he said that, he was
00:32:35elected, I have to say I thought being elected in Makerfield would
00:32:39mean that he would not go there, and he is
00:32:43going there so... quickly after he was
00:32:47elected, it and and as you say Kate about Sakir Starmer, Sakir
00:32:51Starmer may have been doll, he may not have been to most people's
00:32:54taste, but they didn't want to talk about
00:32:57Brexit, they were clear, they respected the red lines, they wanted
00:33:01closer relationship, but there was no talk
00:33:04about new referendums, rejoining the single
00:33:08belt, any of that, there just wasn't, okay, yeah, I
00:33:11mean, the problem is so many or none of... very, very few of
00:33:15those new labor MPs remember or even are that interested in what happened
00:33:19in parliament during those,
00:33:20and most them weren't there probably, no, they weren't there, you see, and and and they don't know about the
00:33:24scars that we all have from those dreadful, dreadful days with that awful
00:33:28speaker, and the way that everybody was just out their, going out
00:33:32their way to stop it happening, your old friend John Berco, yeah, I'm talking about
00:33:36John Berco, yes, the old, well, yes, I suppose he's not that
00:33:39old, but um, and you know, the
00:33:43idea now that we would even... think of going back to that kind of
00:33:47divisive nature again, because obviously in and if there's a general
00:33:50election, whatever happens, labor is not going to have majority that they
00:33:54have at the moment, and that means that you the parliamentary
00:33:58arithmetic is going to be very different, and it would be very, very
00:34:01divisive, and it will take ages, because if he
00:34:05decides to just put it a manifesto and say,
00:34:09we're going to, if we get elected, we are going to rejoin, I
00:34:13think that would be one the most... appalling acts of any prime
00:34:16minister uh that's ever happened because we had referendum
00:34:20after 40 years of being in and now after 10 years he wants
00:34:24to take us back in without even referendum and Nigel that's the point
00:34:28secur no matter rest in peace as it were politically
00:34:32he's he's he's gone now but at least a sense he was honest he
00:34:35was the head the people's vote campaign he was naked rejoiner
00:34:39from the start even he even he
00:34:43didn't say let's rejoin. the European Union, it was something for more subtle death
00:34:47by a thousand treaties, send David Lamy to negotiate on
00:34:51this, send somebody else, another Underling to negotiate on that, but Andy
00:34:55Burnham's no, first for getting back to the bosom
00:34:59of Brussils has outstripped that even of Sakis armor, well I don't think I
00:35:02think you're you're presenting it as
00:35:04Andy Burnham going
00:35:05too far, what Andy Burnham is doing is saying look, we're doing reset with Europe, we're
00:35:09negotiating new relationship with the EU, and what he's
00:35:13doing is saying, why not? has put everything on the table, now I'm as surprised
00:35:17as you were, as you know, when we were we were watching it, watching his party
00:35:20conference speech and what happened afterwards, I was surprised he went as far
00:35:24as he did, I don't think we're going to go back into the EU, I do
00:35:28think that the uh 2016 vote settled the
00:35:32issue, also I do think it was a mistake, if you voted
00:35:36for sovereignty, you got what you wish for, if you voted
00:35:39for um uh a strong economy, you
00:35:43didn't, yeah, that's because
00:35:44it was... it was never properly implemented, the rest the European Union
00:35:48aren't exactly you outdoing us any aspect of
00:35:52economic policy, so I don't see how anyone can say that, it's just such a glib thing
00:35:56to say,
00:35:57oh yes, you know, nothing's been the same since Brexit, Brexit, I mean,
00:36:01we we did
00:36:02have COVID immediately afterwards, which I think was really, really damaging,
00:36:05COVID
00:36:06has has obviously sort of mudded the waters, actually work out, work
00:36:10out, what you you can attribute to Brexit and what you can
00:36:14attribute to COVID.
00:36:1916,000 businesses have stopped trading with europe because of all the border controls
00:36:23and the extra paperwork that that creates exports and imports
00:36:26of... exactly, that's what what Kier Starmer started to try
00:36:30and sort sort that out and get rid of those border
00:36:33controls um and that is what Andy Burnam is continuing,
00:36:37whether or not Europe suddenly says, hey guys, come back in, we'll
00:36:41we'll let you have have wonderful deal,
00:36:43I don't buy any of that, I don't buy any of that, what I think this is is it's
00:36:47naked politics, was seeing where the wind is
00:36:51blowing, he wants back benchers of course, he wants to appeal to metropolitan
00:36:54remainers, he wants to try and nibble away the liberal democrats. 'nible away at the
00:36:58greens, he's more or less abandoned the red war, he won't clamp down an immigration, won't clamp
00:37:02down in benefits, this to me, correct me if I'm wrong, skhoe, this
00:37:05is him making a play for the block vote the liberal left and to help with the red
00:37:09wall, he's completely changed since since the by-election
00:37:13attitude, all the things he said during the by-election
00:37:16were about you, ordinary working people, about getting getting uh
00:37:19control back to them and to give that back in terms of
00:37:23devolution
00:37:24and all of that, and now he's just you know pit in hot'. to
00:37:28those members of his own party who have obsessed about the European
00:37:32Union about wanting to go back in and also obsessed about this
00:37:35whole no understanding of what's happening in the EU and those countries look at
00:37:39France yeah and the whole political block is swinging back to the
00:37:43right just reminder live pictures on your screen there from the house of commons a
00:37:47debate about Brexit is raging and the prime
00:37:51minister expected to speak a short moment's time
00:37:54on on closer ties to the European Union. on there on the
00:37:58front bench for now, pat mcfadun is chairing this session,
00:38:02shabad by the way is set to speak around about 5:30 we believe
00:38:06or the of course that's a movable feast on security, the issue of
00:38:09Nigel Farage and widockam, national security is expected to
00:38:13come up, but ahead of that is the big event, so we have some movement
00:38:17here,
00:38:18is this the prime minister, Andy Burnham speaker, Andy Burnham about to stand
00:38:21up, earlier on has been accused of double standards by
00:38:25dragging Russia, into this, dragging the Kremlin back
00:38:29into it, we can see that Kemy B, the leader the opposition,
00:38:32Israel, we're expecting firety exchange, kemmy said it's been a
00:38:36terrible mistake to drag Brexit back, actually
00:38:40isn't quite there yet, expect to say it's been a terrible
00:38:44mistake to drag
00:38:45Brexit, in my view the
00:38:49conservatives and reform have to make it absolutely
00:38:51clear, they will go back on it to make a
00:38:55statement on the United Nations. general assembly and
00:38:59related international events since the house last
00:39:02met. Before I do, let me first
00:39:06welcome the new member for Holborn
00:39:09and sent pankers
00:39:12to her
00:39:14place. What a journey from child refuge to
00:39:16parliament, and what a country, Mr. Speaker, that this
00:39:20story of hope could happen here. I know
00:39:24my honorable friend will enhance this house. in so many
00:39:28ways, and I look forward to
00:39:30working with her. Mr. Speaker, I took a
00:39:34clear message to the UN, that after decade of
00:39:37turbulence, Britain is back and can be relied upon as
00:39:41a consistent and stable partner an uncertain
00:39:45world, always upholding the shared values set out in the UN
00:39:49charter, rejecting aggression wherever we see it, and always
00:39:53steadfast in our support for Ukraine, as I
00:39:56assured.
00:40:01In the three weeks since that meeting, Russian
00:40:05strikes have intensified even further with more
00:40:08attacks on civilians, on apartment blocks
00:40:12housing innocent families on buses carrying innocent
00:40:16children. When I spoke to President Zelensky on
00:40:20Saturday, he described the step change from
00:40:23Russia, including daylight attacks, intended to break.
00:40:27their will and ours. I can tell you, Mr.
00:40:31Speaker, that will never
00:40:33happen. In recent days, we have
00:40:37announced new funding to help them get through their fifth winter
00:40:41under Russian bombardment, and new sanctions
00:40:44package, so that over 90% of Russia's oil
00:40:48producing capacity is now covered by UK
00:40:51sanctions. On diesel, the quickest way to
00:40:55get it back onto world markets. without rewarding the
00:40:58aggressor is an energy ceasefire with both
00:41:02sides stopping their attacks. I raise this with President
00:41:06Trump in New York. It is what Ukraine wants to
00:41:09see, and so I welcome President Trump's announcement
00:41:12yesterday of reciprocal energy cease
00:41:16fire. President Zelensky has assured me Ukraine would
00:41:20immediately implement it when a start date is confirmed and I will
00:41:24be discussing this further with him in the coming days.
00:41:27Mr. Speaker, NATO is defensive
00:41:30alliance. We do not seek
00:41:33confrontation, but our resolve to defend our
00:41:37allies and ourselves is absolute. "and I was clear
00:41:41in all of my meetings, including with the NATO Secretary
00:41:44General in Oxfordshire, that we will meet our NATO
00:41:48commitments in full. We know Russia is
00:41:52conducting a campaign of hybrid attacks and
00:41:55sabotage across Europe. In Berlin last
00:41:59week, Chancellor Merts and I agreed a new partnership to
00:42:03tackle these hybrid threats. We must be clear eyed about
00:42:07attempts to destabilize our democracies in. is why in my
00:42:10speech to the UN General Assembly, I confirmed our commitment to
00:42:14establish new center for information defense as
00:42:18recommended by the Foreign Affairs Select
00:42:21Committee. More broadly, this is
00:42:25moment to deepen collaboration with our partners, and
00:42:28it is why in Berlin, I indicated Britain's openness to
00:42:32Germany joining the Global Combat Air program
00:42:35alongside Italy and Japan. In my meeting with
00:42:39president President Trump we discussed the situation in the Middle
00:42:43East, I confirmed Britain's decision to send air
00:42:46defense and voyager aircraft to Saudi Arabia to provide
00:42:50air to air refueling support. I can confirm
00:42:54today, it has already completed 14 operational
00:42:58missions. This support is needed to protect
00:43:02civilians. I condemn the appalling attacks on the
00:43:05King Khalid International Airport. We will continue to
00:43:09stand with Saudi Arabia against the
00:43:11hooties. Since Unga, Mr. Speaker, we have been in close
00:43:15contact with the US about protective security at our
00:43:19shared bases. I want to thank our police and military
00:43:22personnel for their swift response to the incidents at
00:43:26RAF Fairford and Raf Molesworth. My
00:43:30right honorable friend, the home secretary will update the house regarding the incident
00:43:34at Raf Fairford, but I can confirm our
00:43:37assessment that
00:43:38it is highly likely. to have been coordinated in
00:43:42Iran, almost certainly directed by Iran's
00:43:46Islamic revolutionary guard. We will not tolerate
00:43:50these threats on our soil. We will crack down on Iran's use
00:43:54of criminal networks, using our full range of powers to target
00:43:57them and their funding streams, and we will bring further
00:44:01sanctions to restrict the capacity of Iran and the
00:44:04IRGC to do us harm. In my
00:44:08meeting with the president, I also... the falkland islands
00:44:11and the clear and declared will the
00:44:15islanders to remain
00:44:16british. emphasize this
00:44:20point in my speech to the general assembly
00:44:24and that we will also always do whatever
00:44:28it takes to uphold their will.
00:44:32mr. speaker, in new york, i also had a positive meeting with the
00:44:35president the European commission the...
00:44:39about
00:44:45opportunity
00:44:45to
00:44:52presents an make
00:44:55progress on two crucial
00:44:58this summit issues, boosting UK growth and controlling
00:45:02illegal immigration. on the
00:45:05table is a trade deal on food and
00:45:09drink products. deal on emissions
00:45:12trading, progress towards linking our energy
00:45:16systems, new youth experience scheme and
00:45:19deeper cooperation on immigration. The summit
00:45:23will also be an opportunity to raise our concerns about
00:45:27made in Europe, and it is clear to me that there is an opportunity to make
00:45:31progress in all these areas. Together, these deals will
00:45:35add the equivalent of over 10 billion pounds per year to the UK
00:45:38economy by. 2040 with the potential to add
00:45:42significantly more. We should
00:45:46not turn our backs on this opportunity, Mr.
00:45:50Speaker, and I hope all sides of this
00:45:53house will get behind the government's efforts to
00:45:57land a positive outcome. It is a chance to
00:46:01cut costs and bureaucracy for sectors
00:46:05like farming. At
00:46:08present entire... truck loads of plants or fresh
00:46:11produce can be destroyed because of a single missing stamp
00:46:15or a minor paperwork delay. fresh meat
00:46:19and fish spoil while waiting in trucks and tons of exports
00:46:23have to be written off. our largest food export
00:46:26Scottish salmon faces a 100% rate of document
00:46:30checks at the border, costing us around 100 million
00:46:34pounds in lost exports. British burgers and other
00:46:38fresh meat products cannot be... sold in the EU,
00:46:42seed potatoes from Scotland and Shellfish from Wales are
00:46:45banned. This is having a real impact on
00:46:49businesses, and the agreement on the table.
00:46:52reverse some of that damage. For farmers and food
00:46:56producers, it will lift the burden that can reach
00:46:591,400 pounds a single
00:47:03shipment. For our small businesses, it
00:47:06means no more export health certificates, which
00:47:10can cost up to 200 pounds each time, for households, it will lease
00:47:14the pressure on prices in the supermarket. It could help
00:47:18lower energy costs for households and businesses.
00:47:22alike in Northern Ireland, the proposed
00:47:26energy deal could cut wholesale energy costs by
00:47:3020%. On immigration, we could link up our law
00:47:34enforcement efforts once again, sharing more data and criminal
00:47:38records of foreign nationals, as well as faster electronic
00:47:42evidence from the phones of those behind the gangs.
00:47:46Mr. Speaker, it is in Britain's interest to secure a deal
00:47:49along these lines and I will work harder. over the next five
00:47:53weeks to achieve it, I
00:47:57believe our chances of doing so will be enhanced by being open
00:48:00to discussion about our relationship with the EU in the
00:48:04longer term. If we are serious,
00:48:08if we are serious about promoting
00:48:12growth, controlling immigration, upholding
00:48:16our values and security, it is a conversation we
00:48:19must have. with the status
00:48:23quo is not good enough for
00:48:26Britain, worse it would be major deriction of
00:48:30duty to turn away. We need to take a calm, clear eyed,
00:48:34rational look at the world as it is today to consider what is best for
00:48:37our country. Our immediate priority is securing
00:48:41successful outcome at the summit, and I believe we should then set up
00:48:45serious dialogue about the different options for our relationship in the long
00:48:49term. At every stage, the British public.
00:48:52will be the boss and I am clear that public
00:48:56opinion currently supports a pragmatic
00:48:59approach like the one I am
00:49:01suggesting, but if we go into this further
00:49:05phase we will proceed with care and complete
00:49:08transparency. Mr. Speaker, this is the leadership
00:49:12we need to draw a decade, to draw a line a
00:49:16decade of drift and division and take the country
00:49:19forward. Beyond Europe. confident Britain is
00:49:23ready to play our part on the global stage as we take up the
00:49:26presidency the G20 in
00:49:292027. I confirmed in New York that we will
00:49:33place AI center stage in our presidency, capturing the
00:49:36incredible opportunities it presents while guarding against the risks.
00:49:40Leading voices like the president of Microsoft are saying
00:49:44Britain is the world leader in AI safety,
00:49:48so we are well placed to take on this role and work towards
00:49:51agreeing a... set of global principles and
00:49:54standards on AI as part of our G20
00:49:58presidency year. Mr. Speaker, the message to the world
00:50:02is clear. Britain is back on so many fronts,
00:50:06we are playing our part and looking confidently to the future. We are
00:50:10leading again, so our country can hope again, and I commend this
00:50:14statement to the house.
00:50:17Leader the
00:50:18opposition,
00:50:23Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and can I thank the Prime Minister for advanced sides of
00:50:27his statement? Since we last met, Iran has
00:50:31sponsored attempted terror attack a British military
00:50:34base. President Trump has withdrawn support from
00:50:38President Zelensky. Saudi Arabia is being
00:50:41bombarded with Houti missiles and has asked Britain to come
00:50:45to her aid. UK household energy bills are set
00:50:49to rise by nearly 300 pounds. in
00:50:52January and diesel prices have hit two pounds a
00:50:56liter for the first time ever.
00:51:00Against this backdrop, the chancellor will deliver a budget in two
00:51:04weeks. The IFS has said that there is a 35 billion
00:51:08pound black hole in the public finances, more borrowing or more
00:51:12taxes are on the way, because we know the prime minister will not
00:51:15cut spending. This is a time when families and
00:51:19businesses are already suffering under the weight of. billion
00:51:23pounds in labor tax rises, so what has the prime minister
00:51:27chosen to focus today? brexit. his
00:51:30exact words earlier this year were, the last thing we
00:51:34should do right now is rerun those arguments
00:51:37and yet
00:51:39here he is unpicking the deal, this country signed with the
00:51:42EU decade after the referendum. he is
00:51:46not going to get better deal, the EU are tough
00:51:50negotiators and Mr. It's not just
00:51:53that the EU are tough negotiators, he has already revealed his
00:51:57entire negotiating hand, he has just blurted out
00:52:00everything he wants in this statement, and I will tell you, tell him now,
00:52:04Mr. speaker, as a former trade secretary, this is not how you
00:52:08conduct
00:52:09negotiations. over the
00:52:12weekend, over the weekend, but he's told them, he's told them everything
00:52:16and
00:52:16they haven't even started, unbelievable, over the weekend, on the rest is
00:52:20politics podcast, he implied that the referendum result was
00:52:24illegitimate because of Russian interference. where has
00:52:28this come from? we all remember in 2018, the head of
00:52:32MI5 said that there was no evidence that Russia. had influenced
00:52:36the EU referendum result, even this morning his own foreign minister
00:52:39could not say if the evidence existed, so will he
00:52:43confirm here and now whether he believes the referendum
00:52:47result was legitimate, and if not, will he
00:52:51published the evidence that Russia swung the result the 2016
00:52:54referendum? from my perspective, Mr. Speaker, this is just
00:52:58another example of him trying to distract the country rather than solve
00:53:02the immediate challenges. 'yeah, and just
00:53:06like some people thought all of Britain's problems would be solved by leaving the
00:53:09EU, some now think all our problems will be res will be solved by
00:53:13rejoining. Neither these are serious positions. This is
00:53:17lazy thinking from people who don't have solutions to the real
00:53:21problems we face, like on defense. The prime minister
00:53:24told us he would set out a target date for spending 3% of GDP
00:53:28on defense at the spending review in the spring. That
00:53:32spending review has now been delayed.' until next
00:53:36autumn, he has delayed procurement decisions, or will labor
00:53:40delayed procurement decisions by year to hold the strategic defense review,
00:53:43then the defense investment plan took another 18 months, now the armed
00:53:47forces have to wait another 12 months at least to find out what
00:53:51they're getting. defense the realm is the first duty
00:53:55of any government, kicking it into the long grass is a
00:53:59derelliction of duty. i welcome the support that
00:54:03he has set out for our allies, now for our allies in Saudi Arabia and
00:54:07Ukraine, but they will require money, and there are
00:54:10still serious questions on defense that need to be
00:54:13answered. The United States have withdrawn their bombers from Raf
00:54:17Fairford. Can the Prime Minister tell us why?
00:54:21And what does that mean for the safety of our British aircraft and more
00:54:25importantly British personnel at that
00:54:28base? He said in his statement that we will not tolerate
00:54:32threats from Iran on our soil. So where he? and his foreign
00:54:35secretary aware of those threats before the foreign
00:54:38secretary met and shook hands with the Iranian foreign
00:54:42minister at the UN, and does the prime minister now think the
00:54:46foreign secretary was wrong to do that? on the 18th
00:54:50of July, we were told
00:54:51that the prime minister would grant licenses for the Jackdoor gas field and Roosebank oil
00:54:55field. We are still waiting for decision nearly three
00:54:59months later as a global energy crisis is
00:55:02looming. Can he now confirm? exactly when
00:55:06he will approve these licenses. Britain cannot afford to wait
00:55:10until the end the decade for him to act. He is the prime
00:55:14minister for today. Rather than promising things on the
00:55:17never never, here are some things that he could do right
00:55:21now. Cut welfare, fund our defense, drill in the north
00:55:25sea, bring down people's taxes, get young people into work,
00:55:29build new prison places and put more police on our
00:55:32streets. those things
00:55:36today, if he cuts
00:55:39spending, that's what I would do, instead he's trying to
00:55:43reopen yesterday's arguments to avoid today's
00:55:46decisions, so Mr. Speaker, what this statement shows
00:55:50is the difference between that side the house and this side the
00:55:53house, we have answers to
00:55:57today's problems, they are living in the
00:56:00past.
00:56:04Prime minister. 'uh, can I thank the right
00:56:08honorable lady uh, Mr. Speaker, um, she started
00:56:12on uh, the right point, which is the situation in the Middle
00:56:16East, and the extent to which it is affecting cost of living
00:56:19pressures here at home, the cost of filling up at the
00:56:23pump um, cost uh
00:56:25more more broadly - people are feeling,
00:56:28so she's absolutely right to say that that's where our focus should be, it's
00:56:32where my focus was when I had all of my meeting'. in New
00:56:35York and it's why I have taken action to remove
00:56:39VAT of electricity bills this
00:56:43month, so we are acting uh quickly on the
00:56:46cost of living and we will continue uh to do that. Mr.
00:56:50Speaker, I was listening carefully what she
00:56:54said about the European Union, and one could
00:56:57only conclude from what she said about
00:57:01unpicking the deal, the deal that is supposedly so good. uh
00:57:05for Britain that she will be defending the status
00:57:08quote, I'm sure I heard her say at
00:57:12conference that increasing growth would be the
00:57:16operating principle. any government that she leads,
00:57:19so how can she
00:57:21justify turning her
00:57:25back a deal that is potentially on the
00:57:28table now to add billions to the UK
00:57:32economy? how can they justify, how can they
00:57:36justify turning their back on farmers
00:57:40and the food industry who are finding it
00:57:44hard to export into Europe? 'I
00:57:47think they need to, I think they need to reflect on that, Mr.
00:57:51Speaker, and she she says that
00:57:55uh, oh, I've revealed what I want to do, and uh,
00:57:58this isn't any way to negotiate it, because the tories were so good,
00:58:02weren't they, Mr. Speaker, negotiating uh,
00:58:06deals uh with our with our
00:58:08partners, she, can I just address the point
00:58:12that she said, I implied no such thing in my
00:58:16comments on'.
00:58:17the rest is politics podcast, I think she should go
00:58:21back and and look again. It is matter of
00:58:25record, Mr. Speaker, that Russian actors sought
00:58:28to interfere in the 29 general election, and
00:58:32we think it is inconceivable that this was the
00:58:36first time. I have, I
00:58:40have a question for the right honorable
00:58:44lady, I listened, I listened. to
00:58:48what she said at her conference last week when she was
00:58:51asked directly about Brexit
00:58:55twice whether she thought Brexit had been
00:58:59good for London twice she could not
00:59:02answer, she could not address the question
00:59:06even, and this is not going to be good enough for a
00:59:10party that once again wishes to lead
00:59:13this country. That is not leadership, Mr. Speaker, to turn your back.
00:59:18on growth to turn your back on building the British
00:59:21economy. On defense, Mr. Speaker, this government is already
00:59:25spending 14 billion pounds more every year
00:59:29than their last year in government. Uh, we will
00:59:33uh continue to work with our US counterparts on Raf at
00:59:36Fairford, Mr. Speaker, and can I say to her, every
00:59:40single foreign secretary, including David
00:59:44Cameron as the last conservative foreign secretary.
00:59:47met representatives the Iranian government and she should
00:59:51look back at that as well as she should look back at her
00:59:55own record in government. she stands there today and
00:59:59says she will build new prison places. why is there
01:00:02crisis in our prisons? because they didn't,
01:00:06when they were in office. we are dealing with the issues that she left
01:00:10behind, we are the ones that are providing leadership in difficult
01:00:14times and it is about time that
01:00:16the honorable lady... faced up to some of those realities about the mess they left
01:00:20behind
01:00:25very much speaker, i'm very grateful to the prime minister for treating
01:00:29concerted attempts to undermine our democracy, well that was the prime
01:00:33minister andy burnham locking horns with chemy ball of course the leader
01:00:37the opposition on Brexit, 10
01:00:40years on here we go again w all the main points that Andy
01:00:44Burnham came out with naked love letter. to Brussels,
01:00:48let's be absolutely clear, naked love letter to
01:00:51Brussels, Andy Burnham talk about how he had a meeting with
01:00:55Ersala
01:00:56von delay and the first newslineine confirmation, there will be
01:00:59a UK European Union summit in
01:01:03Brussels on the 20th of November, and Kenny Bainenot pointed
01:01:07out there, Andy Burnham laid out his entire strategy,
01:01:11his entire set of demands, number one, boosting UK
01:01:15growth, number two, controlling a legal immigration like that
01:01:18works or either of those works when we're inside the European Union. Number
01:01:22three, energy cooperation. Now will point out
01:01:26that means energy entanglement, it means
01:01:30energy reliance. It means being
01:01:33subjected to new deals and if we change one part the
01:01:37deal, Paris can turn off the lights. We've been here before,
01:01:41this is precisely the Brexit referendum at
01:01:44disentangling these treaties so we weren't. at the
01:01:48whim of Brussels i Digress and point for
01:01:52so-called youth experience scheme. That
01:01:56means open borders for young people. It means erasmus, it
01:01:59means youth mobility. Call it what you want. It's freedom of
01:02:03movement with new name. A lot of people will think that that is
01:02:07the is the Brexit wolf in sheep's clothing. Will they
01:02:11not? Baroness Kate Hoe, you were clo- closely listening in there and
01:02:15the entire reason for this we were told. "this will add 10
01:02:19billion pounds to the UK economy by 2040, which
01:02:23point you simply said how? well, I
01:02:26think I think actually it, it almost showed a..." quite a lot of
01:02:30naivity by uh the prime minister about how the European Union
01:02:34works, because the European Union does not give a
01:02:38single thing to any country uh
01:02:41without getting a great deal more back, and what
01:02:45what we haven't heard any of that is where the European
01:02:49Union is, because quite honestly they haven't actually had that negotiation yet, and yet
01:02:53he's saying that already by you, by the time it comes
01:02:57to November the 20th, he's almost imply... that these things are
01:03:01already being accepted by her and you know
01:03:04that the issue particularly the youth issue um I
01:03:08mean that is going to be hugely expensive on this
01:03:12country because we will end up giving students from
01:03:16the rest the EU much cheaper university fees all of those sorts of
01:03:20things will be tied into it but the the most important thing to me
01:03:24would when he talked about growth he put that as the number one
01:03:26issue - growth we "we could be
01:03:30getting growth in this country now without anything to do
01:03:34with with with the European Union if we were to do
01:03:38what in fact um Kimmy Badnock said and other people have said
01:03:41actually cutting what we're spending and we're not he's not looking at that at
01:03:45all particularly welfare so I I think it was a bit of a I
01:03:49mean it's been it's been hot you know everybody's been talking about
01:03:53this is going to be this great speech but actually in it the reality
01:03:57was he wasn't really saying" anything other than that we're going to
01:04:01have this arrangement in November, we'll get this wonderful
01:04:05deal, we hope you'll all support it, and then we're going to look at how we can
01:04:08get it into our manifesto for an election that will probably come next year to say that
01:04:12we want to get even closer and actually join,
01:04:16rejoin, excellently summarized,
01:04:19katherine for something else that grab that leps out there was Andy
01:04:23Burm said our immediate goal is closer relationship with the
01:04:27European Union and then sets up serious dialogue about our
01:04:31future relationship, then saying the public will be the boss,
01:04:35it'l be led by public mood. now this, I
01:04:38think, Baron Sko, you can both agree is something, I think the remain side never
01:04:42stops campaigning, they never stop campaigning after 2020, they never stopped
01:04:46campaigning
01:04:47for for six long years, you hardly hear a positive thing said about
01:04:51Brexit in the mainstream media, you hear nothing positive about
01:04:55it in from from business,
01:04:58academia, in television, from
01:05:01celebrities, the remain voice
01:05:05never stopped, the trumpet never fell silent, and this seems
01:05:09with that that age all thing about we're going to follow the polling, buse brexiteers
01:05:13have died out, the public's changed its mind, i think that's a copy
01:05:17of many b, he's basically saying, well mean i know i was elected on a manifesto pledge
01:05:21in makerfield and saying i wouldn't revisit the referendum but actually people changes of
01:05:24minds, it's not me, honest gover that's doing this, it's the electorate, at
01:05:28least
01:05:29be honest like
01:05:29skeer Starmer was. 'if you want to rejoin, tell us, yeah, I was looking
01:05:33back again at what he said uh, Tony Blair during the
01:05:37by-election campaign, wrote a big essay, and one the things he said
01:05:40was, um, we shouldn't think about rejoining now, it's
01:05:44something for in the future, if we are a much stronger position,
01:05:48we'd want to be a much better place before we'd even countenance it, and Andy
01:05:52Burnham wrote a piece in the Times and said that Tony Blair had correctly
01:05:55argued that our relentless focus should now be on'.
01:06:00domestic issues and fixing
01:06:01our own underlying problems rather than re-running divisive
01:06:05arguments about rejoining the European Union, now he is saying
01:06:09we need growth, this is how we get it, but we haven't
01:06:13had growth since the financial crisis, uh, living standards,
01:06:16productivity have been pretty flat, we actually only
01:06:20brexited in 2020, which pretty much
01:06:23coincided with COVID, and Europe
01:06:27is very, very different, look at the... of
01:06:30parties on the right and also
01:06:33had no growth either speaking, let's go back
01:06:34to
01:06:38the sympathies, I'm sure all of us were moved by the prime minister
01:06:42words about his dad and his determination to fix social
01:06:46care and tackle the devastating impacts of dementia on
01:06:49sufferers and their families. I hope we can work across
01:06:53the house to make that happen. Turing to the prime minister's words
01:06:57on Europe, Mr. Speaker, sucessors turned a blind
01:07:01eye to the disastrous consequences the conservatives brexit
01:07:05deal, so it's welcome to him recognize that
01:07:08damage today. we on these benches have consistently
01:07:12argued that their brexit deal has made us all poorer,
01:07:16weaker and less safe. so i'm glad the prime minister has arrived
01:07:20at the same conclusion as we have, but now it's time
01:07:23to do something about it. so the test the prime
01:07:27minister's ambition is straightforward, if wants growth and if he wants to
01:07:31cut the cost of living, will he drop
01:07:35labor's red lines now, an open negotiations
01:07:39on joining the single market and customs union.
01:07:43because Mr. Speaker, it would be a real deriction of duty to refuse
01:07:46now to fix deal we know isn't
01:07:49working. Every day, every week, every month of
01:07:53delay means more unnecessary cost for British businesses, more
01:07:57pointless red tape, more pain for British
01:08:00families. Being outside negotiations on AI
01:08:03safety, made in Europe regulations, and migration
01:08:07agreements, does this country real harm?
01:08:11Fixing our relationship with? Europe is more important now than
01:08:14ever, especially a time when President Trump is
01:08:18waiting a trade war with Canada by signing new trade deal with
01:08:22Putin. Never before have we seen a US
01:08:25president so hostile to the UK and our allies and
01:08:29so friendly to our adversaries. We cannot afford
01:08:33to fudge or dodge on this issue, especially on
01:08:36Ukraine. So will the prime minister bring together a coalition
01:08:40the willing behind a joint. statement, condemning
01:08:44Trump's diesel deal with Russia and calling on him to
01:08:47cancel it. Finally, Mr. Speaker, on the prime minister's
01:08:51comments about Russian interference in the Brexit
01:08:54referendum. That took courage after the conservatives have spent
01:08:58so long, suppressing the evidence. So will he now
01:09:02present it to the house in full alongside any evidence
01:09:06of interference in other UK votes, so we can
01:09:09understand the threats and make it national secure.
01:09:12priority to protect our democracy from attacks like
01:09:16that. prime minister, but can I
01:09:20thank the right honorable gentlemen for his kind words uh about
01:09:24my about my dad, they are much appreciated, Mr.
01:09:27Speaker, and can I agree with him in the way he
01:09:31presented the harm done to food and farming and other
01:09:35industries by the Brexit deal, it would seem that the
01:09:38party opposite is in denial about and not open. to
01:09:42seeing how we can move forward to better position uh
01:09:46for the country and indeed it's clear that British
01:09:50public opinion has moved and I believe the public would
01:09:53now favor we are not ideological but
01:09:57pragmatic taking steps to support
01:10:00growth and improve our approach uh
01:10:03to um to tackling my irregular migration
01:10:07so I hope I can count on his
01:10:11and his colleagues. if we can secure a good
01:10:15deal when this comes before the house, what I can't
01:10:19do as much as I want to improve growth in the UK, I also want to
01:10:22maintain trust in politics and I'm afraid I'm not prepared to
01:10:26revisit the red lines in our our
01:10:29manifesto uh on Ukraine, I have had
01:10:33discussions uh with Chancellor Murtz about bringing forward a
01:10:36meeting the coalition
01:10:38the willing and I can update the house further as that as that proceeds.
01:10:42and and finally on um the Brexit
01:10:46referendum uh Mr. Speaker, I think it's really important in this
01:10:50moment to be to be open uh with people about everything that
01:10:53we've that we've lived through uh in in the last uh decade.
01:10:57I have been open, but I am also making sure that Britain is a
01:11:01position where we do not face the same again and I hope
01:11:05he too and his colleagues will support the new National Center for Information
01:11:09Defense so that Britain never again faces... the risk
01:11:12of interference in our democratic process, thank you, mr.
01:11:16speaker, prime
01:11:18minister on what's been a flying start on
01:11:19the world stage, and can I commend
01:11:23news of better, stronger deal with Europe that will cut costs
01:11:27and cut bills the that liberal
01:11:29leader liberal the democrats for now, at
01:11:32least, putting his question to the prime minister Andy
01:11:36Burnham, couldn't believe his luck, at the same time his goose has been cut,
01:11:40because all of sudden the liberal democrat. "aren't the party have rejoined, the labor
01:11:44party appear to be wearing their clothes, where is thatly the liberal
01:11:47democrats out in the cold, you might say, but Ed Davy raised a question
01:11:51there, raised also by Kemy Bad, the leader the
01:11:55opposition, it's namely this to paraphrase the pair them together, Addy
01:11:59Burnham, if you have evidence, tangible,
01:12:03hard evidence of Russian interference in the Brexit referendum that had
01:12:07meaningful impact on the outcome the referendum, show us your
01:12:10medals, let's see..." that evidence, because I put it to
01:12:14you again, viewers and listeners, I put it to you again, prime
01:12:18minister, everybody out there in the political class, if this
01:12:22evidence has existed so far, it's yet to been pulled out of a
01:12:25hat, a Kremlin marked fur hat,
01:12:28nothing, there's been report showing there a few tweets, there's not not
01:12:32a single cintiller of actual
01:12:36evidence that the through put was that people marched like
01:12:40kremling robots to the referendum and uh Brexit,
01:12:44because Vladimir Putin was telling them, we've gone from project
01:12:47fear, Kate to project fantasy,
01:12:51absolutely, and the fantasy top was the fact that -
01:12:55'we rejoin the European Union
01:12:56as if by magic will grow, well grow like jack's bean
01:13:00stalk, well we didn't, we didn't grow when we were members, well I was glad that
01:13:04he he actually was pushed on the whole question of
01:13:07evidence on on on the Russian involvement,
01:13:11you now I spoke at rallies all over the country, particularly in
01:13:15in leave areas and in to labor voters
01:13:18and the idea that somebody those sort of thousand people in
01:13:22big rooms were sort of sitting there you know being'. 'oh well, you know,
01:13:26we have to listen to what the Putin's saying, I mean the whole thing
01:13:29just doesn't add up, and it's clear that is a big, big diversion,
01:13:33and I also think this whole idea about public opinion changing, you
01:13:37know, makerfield by-election wasn't that long ago, is he
01:13:41really saying
01:13:41that when he made that commitment about the European Union, that the
01:13:45public opinion has changed so much since he became prime minister, I
01:13:49mean the whole thing is just is is, and of course the final thing which
01:13:53I feel very strongly about is "the whole question of growth, I mean there's no
01:13:56idea of how joining the EU again, and
01:14:00even with this deal, which if they get in in in November,
01:14:04how that actually will make us grow
01:14:08when businesses, particularly small businesses are being absolutely
01:14:12hammered, there's no suggestion about reducing national insurance, but
01:14:15doing all the things that we know have made businesses so
01:14:19so hard to actually operate and so many them going out of
01:14:22business, so um..." It's it's
01:14:26um, well let's say the word fallacy and the
01:14:30word um, I think he's trying to convince the public that he
01:14:34really understands the European Union, and I don't think
01:14:38he does, I really do think he's going to find
01:14:40it very, very different when he goes there in November. Thank you very much, Kate, stick
01:14:44with us, let's get my next guest in now, it's the director of UK
01:14:48EU Coalition, Mike Buckley, Mike, Mike Buckley, we can
01:14:52hear here the Prime Minister Andy Burnham still taking. questions giving
01:14:55answers, let's start if we could with the growth
01:14:59figures the prime minister gave up today, apparently all of this new
01:15:03deal with the European Union, which hasn't been done yet, but we understand will start to be
01:15:07negotiated at the Brussels summit on the 20th of November, well
01:15:10add one would have 10 billion pounds the UK economy by
01:15:142040, how well that sounds perfectly reasonable,
01:15:18well I mean I've used this analogy on on your show I think before, so I mean if you think about Russia
01:15:22since the invaded Ukraine we've put sanctions. the we've made it more difficult for them
01:15:26to trade with other countries because we want to harm their economy, but where we left
01:15:30the EU, we put sanctions on ourselves, we raised trade barriers between us
01:15:34and our biggest market, which is increased costs for all our businesses, big
01:15:37businesses, small businesses, they're paying hundreds, 10 thousand,
01:15:41thousands or millions of pounds depending on the side the business to to trade with the
01:15:45European Union, which they didn't have to do before, when we were in the EU, this is the beauty the
01:15:49single market, they could trade with with Denmark and with Germany just as easy, they
01:15:53could trade with Newcastle or Edinburgh. and by putting trade barriers
01:15:56up our own choice when we left the European Union, we made trade for
01:16:00British businesses much, much more expensive, some them have had to stop trading because it
01:16:04was too expensive or too complicated, particularly smaller and medium-sized
01:16:08businesses, bigger businesses are paying no costs, but that means their profit
01:16:12is lower, they they have to pay lower wages or employ fewer people, so taking
01:16:15away those trade barriers is the major thing that's going to improve our economic growth over
01:16:19the next few years, and you number of you mentioned the fact there's no evidence,
01:16:23but there there's acres of evi
01:16:29Mike, if if we going
01:16:30to have a two and throw rather than you go into a monologue, that'd be good, no, you go
01:16:34ahead, let's let's look at the evidence shall we, because
01:16:37I think that's important, Britain's growth has been feable and it's been
01:16:41annihilated by COVID, lot of people on that in that chamber there,
01:16:45I don't have to talk about that, because they all willed it along, they wanted lockdowns harder,
01:16:49sooner and longer, they'd annihilated our economy a way that Brexit didn't touch it, now let's turn
01:16:53to Brexit, if rejoin. as magic bullet to
01:16:57suddenly conjure up 10 billion pounds of growth, how come the UK economy which has
01:17:01been feable as outperform Germany, as outperformed France
01:17:04has outperformed Italy, was that because of
01:17:07Brexit? well, you refer to COVID, but I mean that's a couple of years over the
01:17:11last decade, and indeed our economic trouble started pretty much the day after the referendum
01:17:15vote, because economists and the bond markets and in companies that
01:17:19would invest in the UK or would have done, they looked at the UK after that and thought this
01:17:22economy is going to be smaller, so we're going...
01:17:28so even the effects of COVID were because of Brexit, got you? No,
01:17:32no, no, that's not what I said, I said that was two years out of 10 years, but
01:17:35the economic impact on the UK started the day after the vote in 2016,
01:17:39COVID was 2020, it ended pretty much in 2021 or 2022,
01:17:43so the majority the impact that you're looking at is Brexit related rather than COVID
01:17:47related, and bear in mind the whole of Europe went through COVID as well, now you refer to the
01:17:51German economy, the French economy, some the economys in Europe are doing...
01:17:55spectacularly well, you look at Poland, you look a lot of eastern Europe, you look at Spain,
01:17:59lot these economies are doing very, very well, some them aren't doing so well, but that's not
01:18:03because they're members the European Union, it's for other reasons, for
01:18:05example making for
01:18:07investment choices. or in the German case spending too long to bivot towards
01:18:10electric vehicles for example and being overtaken by Chinese vehicles which
01:18:14they now attempting can we turn next Mike
01:18:17to the Kremlin I believe it's one the
01:18:21biggest if not the biggest Romaniac fantasies them all the
01:18:25notion that 17.4 million people didn't have clue what they were voting for
01:18:29it must have been a bus it must have been Vladimir Putin must have been a few
01:18:32chat bots Kemy Beadenock Ed Davy myself
01:18:36many people. Kate howeey from the Brexit side saying today, Andy
01:18:40Burn, if you've got evidence that there was tangible
01:18:44proof that people's votes were impacted by the Kremlin, show
01:18:48us, otherwise it's project
01:18:50fantasy, it's a grave over
01:18:53statement, I mean Andy said that Russia had interfered in the referendum, there was that
01:18:57that was talked about at the time,
01:18:59investigation, no it wasn't proven to be solved,
01:19:03investigation was done but the data was never released by the conservative government of.
01:19:07'I don't, I don't know if Andy Bowen will release the data or not, I hope that he does
01:19:11to make this conversation irrelevant, I hope that this some of this data at least is
01:19:15released into the public domain so that we can know, I think that would be important, but it is
01:19:19certainly the case that Russia was seen to interven in people's
01:19:23elections at the time, investigation was done in the US after Trump's first election, it was in the
01:19:27best interest the remain side to propagate that fantasy,
01:19:30because it would it would take away the agency, the British electorate who actually
01:19:34looked at all the evidence and thought you know we'. want to be member the European Union
01:19:38anymore, but no, no, we can't have it that way, it has to be butters, it has to be lies,
01:19:42it has to be an ideal pharoge poster, has to be vladimir putin,
01:19:46the romain side never accepted the result and the prime minister to this day won't
01:19:50accept it either, that's the point, you all think you know better than the
01:19:5417.4 million, in fact in reality the prime minister has accepted
01:19:58the the legitimacy the results today, so he's been very
01:20:01clear, it was legitimate result, more people voted to leave them to stay in and so we
01:20:05left, that was democratically the correct? thing to do, but number of years now into
01:20:09that reality, we can now ask the question, look at the evidence, has this been
01:20:13good for the UK or has it been bad, and as Andy said at labour party
01:20:17conference, it's caused more harm than good to our country, and
01:20:20it is indeed, as he was saying today also, it would be
01:20:23a derection of duty for him and his government not to address that fact, every
01:20:27government the day needs to you, live in the reality the situation is the
01:20:30time, the reality today is that our country is a worse off position than we were
01:20:34when we were members the European Union, fixing that problem. lands on
01:20:38his on it's his responsibility now as leader the UK
01:20:41and all right mike one
01:20:45final question I'd like I'd appreciate a one word answer if I
01:20:48could do you think Andy Buren was positioned today to have a
01:20:52summit with Brexit and look
01:20:54at with Brussils beg you pardon and look at all referend all options on the
01:20:58table including a potential referendum to rejoin does that past the
01:21:02maker field test yes or no
01:21:05yes.
01:21:09now how does it not pass the makerfield test? the makerfield the electoral
01:21:13tried he wouldn't revisit the brexit referendum. no he didn't. when
01:21:17he was when he was asked during the makerfield by election, and i know this buse i spent
01:21:21lot of time in makerfield, he was asked about brexit in the EU and he said that is
01:21:24debate for another time. that was not him
01:21:27saying the UK. he was saying that
01:21:31he didn't want to go into it a great level of detail during that referendum. mean
01:21:34i will add because i have done constituency level. polling on Brexit
01:21:38in the specific constituency of Makerfields and did that during his
01:21:41by-election, that shows the same results as everywhere else in the UK, the
01:21:45majority of people in Makerfield realize that Brexit doesn't work, the majority of people
01:21:49in Makerfield want closer relat relationship potentially including
01:21:53rejoin, the people of Makerfield are not some cabal of leave voters who
01:21:56are still clamoring to stay out the EU, they want better life and and if
01:22:00being having closer relationships the EU will facilitate that then that's what they want, just
01:22:04like the vast majority of people in this country. Okay, Mike Buckley,
01:22:08I always appreciate our debates, I do, the director of UK EU Coalition,
01:22:12Mike Buckley, thank you very much, now still plenty
01:22:15of war to come the debate raging on there in the House of Commons, play more reaction to the Prime
01:22:19Minister's pledge for closer relationship with the European Union, despite saying
01:22:23that wouldn't happen just five minutes ago on the Makerville campaign trail,
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01:25:37welcome back 25 past four is your time. kate is here, she's fighting, the
01:25:41prime minister today has unveiled series of measures aimed as bringing Britain
01:25:45closer to its European partners in Brussels. here he is speaking
01:25:49in the chamber, House of Commons a short while ago. Open to
01:25:53discussion about our relationship with the EU in the
01:25:56longer term. If we are serious,
01:26:00if we are serious about promoting
01:26:04growth, controlling immigration, upholding
01:26:08our values and security. It is a conversation we
01:26:12must have. Sticking with the status
01:26:15quo is not good enough for
01:26:18Britain. worse, it would be major deriction of
01:26:22duty to turn away. We need to take a calm, clear eyed,
01:26:26rational look at the world as it is today, to consider what is best
01:26:29for our country. Our immediate priority is securing
01:26:33successful outcome at the summit, and I believe we should then set up
01:26:37serious dialogue about the different options for our relationship in the long
01:26:41term. This is the leadership we need to draw a
01:26:44decade, to draw a line a decade of drift and
01:26:48division and take the country.
01:26:50forward, can anybody here else here the
01:26:54screen of u-turn that says dharma would be proud of?
01:26:58less we forget on the campaign trail in makafield, Andy Burdam said he had no
01:27:01desire to revisit the referendum, now here we are, a
01:27:05summit with Brussels on November the 20th, and
01:27:08clearly Andy Burnham will have red rose between his
01:27:12teeth. Let's now speak with the historian and the author Robert
01:27:16Tooms. Robert, I don't about you, I think that's the mother of all you. turns
01:27:20one that Skeast Armor would be proud of. Let's talk about the details, shall
01:27:24we? Apparently this deal that hasn't been done yet a
01:27:27conference that hasn't happened yet, will feature a 10
01:27:31billion pound bonus for Britain. How could you not resist
01:27:34that? Uh, well, if it's only 10 billion pounds, it's a lot
01:27:38less than the 30 billion pounds would be paying into the EU budget, so that's
01:27:42a minus 20 billion result of this
01:27:45negotiation. I mean, if if I could believe what Kies Dama
01:27:49says, sorry, about what Burnham says, about taking
01:27:53a careful look at the evidence and all the rest? well, I'd say yes,
01:27:56let's do that, but I don't for moment think that that's what he'll do,
01:28:00uh, there's there's never any detail, there's never any examination
01:28:04the facts, all there is is this waffly language about
01:28:08getting closer to Europe, and we know what that means, it means making
01:28:12concessions to Europe, because that's what this government does, sort of chagos
01:28:15deal, but a European level, uh, giving away a lot more money and...
01:28:20very very little in return, that's what we can expect from the labor
01:28:24party initiative on Europe. Robert, this
01:28:28feta comply has it was delivered today, doesn't have any detail
01:28:32the devil. is always in the detail and one the premium prizes that
01:28:36Brussels will want is freedom of movement. now they might call it a
01:28:39youth experience scheme, but you and i can smell the tiger in
01:28:43the reads there, that's open borders, it's freedom of movement, it might start
01:28:47with few thousand students, but where will it end? that's the point.
01:28:51if you negotiate with with Brazils a way that was perceived
01:28:55as turf like to david frost, but now you've got a
01:28:59bunch of people who want to rejoin the wrap
01:29:01us around their little fingers weren't they? 'yes, as they have done
01:29:05in the past, as you say, except when David Frost was in charge,
01:29:09that's what they were doing all the time, because um, we had no
01:29:12clear position, we had no, we had no determination, we were
01:29:16willing to concede at every point, um, I mean, Michelle
01:29:20Barnier, the the you may remember was the EU's negotiator, he says
01:29:24that in his memoirs, the British were never prepared, they didn't know what
01:29:28they want, and I think this is the same old story all over
01:29:31again'. "and I think in this case of course the as it was
01:29:35as was the case with Theresa
01:29:38May of of of of lamented memory as it were um Andy Burnham is desperate
01:29:41to be able to say he's got a deal to please the labor
01:29:45party and in order to do that he'll give he'll give away
01:29:48whatever the Europeans demand yeah Robert something else that
01:29:52came out the speech today was don't
01:29:55worry the polling will lead this the
01:29:59public will be the boss but then of course and" next breath the
01:30:03polling has changed, people have changed their minds, that could be something to do with
01:30:07the fact that in the mainstream media, in schools and universities
01:30:10probably everywhere, we've hardly heard a positive thing about Brexit for
01:30:14six years, now you could argue that's because the Brexit deal was pants, yeah
01:30:18Boris Johnson surrendered on things like fishing on
01:30:22immigration, but the fact the matter is we have a political
01:30:26class here that in 2016 Robert was probably
01:30:2975% remaining, I reckon that chamber now is about '90%
01:30:33remain the political class, don't represent the working class
01:30:36once again. I'm afraid that's
01:30:40true. I mean, look, look at, I mean, polling, as you, as you know, depends
01:30:44very much on on the question that's asked. So if you ask people a sort
01:30:48of anadine question like, would you like better relations with our friends
01:30:52in Europe, of course every most people say yes, I i' probably say
01:30:56yes myself. If you were to say, would you, would you accept
01:31:00free movement, would you accept the euro?' would you be willing to pay
01:31:0330 billion a year into the EU budget? you find that hardly
01:31:07anybody says yes, only few die hard rejoiners, but those
01:31:11are the that's not the sort of thing the government wants to hear, the government wants to ask
01:31:15the questions and it wants to interpret the answers, because that's
01:31:19what Andy Burnham thinks will keep the labour party together and
01:31:23attract voters from the greens and the lib dems, so it's just it's
01:31:27just a political game, I'm afraid. well, it's political
01:31:31game where democracy. self and the votes of 17.4 million, the
01:31:35biggest single electoral mandate in history has become yet
01:31:38another parliamentary parl game. i cannot believe we're doing this again, but we
01:31:42are. thank you very much today. never thought we would, we've seen
01:31:46it in other countries, we've seen it in other countries in Europe, as
01:31:49you know, when people have been told to vote again because they voted the wrong way, or
01:31:53their views were simply ignored, but never thought that could happen in Britain, but
01:31:57it looks as though that's what this government intends. i
01:32:01did, did. this had happened buse rain never stopped,
01:32:05romane never stopped even the day after the brexit referendum went through
01:32:09and i was on the stage there at parliament
01:32:11square, as big band struck struck
01:32:1512, it's like remaine never slept, they never
01:32:19stopped and here we are, robert we have to move on being told got to get to
01:32:22the news and being told off once again, thanks for joining us today, appreciate your time,
01:32:25historian and you may take care, robert
01:32:29tombs panel please stick with me ' are we doing that? no, we're going
01:32:33to get to, we're going to get to our news now, I'm
01:32:35joined, we are doing to burn themselt, let's get
01:32:38it you is that Brexit has been
01:32:42damaging, but I also believe the last thing we should
01:32:46do right now is rerun those arguments. I am not
01:32:49proposing that the UK considers rejoining the EU. I respect
01:32:53the decision that was made at the referendum, and it's going to undermine
01:32:57everything said, I've said about strengthening democracy, if we don't
01:33:01respect that vote. May
01:33:052026, that was Andy Burnham, yeah, that was Andy Burnham, the
01:33:08same person who just in chamber was saying Brexit's been a
01:33:12mistake, it's done more damage than good in May 2026,
01:33:16before he became prime minister when he was then media, the parliamentarian of
01:33:20Makerfield, saying it was not his intention
01:33:24to undermine the Brexit referendum, Nigel
01:33:27Nelson, there's only one word for
01:33:29that, liar. I think you need
01:33:33to actually look, look at exactly what he said on both
01:33:37occasions, back in May when he was in Makerfield and what he's just
01:33:40said in the House of Commons. The whole point is that he was talking.
01:33:45about not reopening the whole brexit debate now, he
01:33:49us, he used the word now, um,
01:33:53we're not talk, we are not talking about on November the
01:33:5620th re-entering the EU, so we just
01:34:00pretend all the way through to the voters of Makerfield, we just spam
01:34:03them,
01:34:06gas l them, we change our mind five minutes later in parliament,
01:34:09that's what this is today, and you turn keers on would be proud
01:34:12of, if you just listen to... what he actually said, he was
01:34:16talking about the sub the EU Summit on November the
01:34:1920th, and what should come out of that is closer
01:34:23relationship with Europe? he also said and answer to add
01:34:26Davy, which is really important, he's not revisiting the red lines,
01:34:30which is we won't accept uh the single market, single market rules which
01:34:34would lead to freedom of movement, we won't accept the customs union
01:34:38which will stop our free trade deals elsewhere.
01:34:41Nigel, that's what he's saying now, but what he said, to the
01:34:45people of Makerfield when he was trying to persuade them to elect him was that he's
01:34:49not proposing the UK considered rejoining the
01:34:52EU and it would undermine everything he said about
01:34:56strengthening democracy if he did not,
01:34:58he didn't say uh we're not proposing rejoining the
01:35:02EU right now, but we might do as soon we've had a general election which
01:35:06might be in December or might be next May or might be in two
01:35:10years time, and he wrote in the Times as well, should be focusing on our
01:35:13own domestic. issues fixing our underlying
01:35:17structural problems which have existed for decades and particularly since
01:35:21the financial crisis in 2008 since when we've had virtually no growth,
01:35:25we only brexited six years ago, yeah,
01:35:29but we're not, the whole thing is, you're talking as if we're about to
01:35:32rejoin next week, we're not, we are not, I don't think we'll rejoin
01:35:36at all, as I've already said, um, but we're certainly not going to do it next week, what we're
01:35:40doing is we're having a reset with Europe, and
01:35:44if and if it works out we will get a bit more growth and we
01:35:48will also be able
01:35:49to that well on on the base of that the the Andy burner was
01:35:53laughed at in chamber there he said this
01:35:55is a chance to cut bureaucracy and red tape for farmers
01:35:58everyone laughed at him how how was this prime minister help
01:36:02farmers suddenly going back in the European Union who want to chuck all
01:36:06their imports exports sorry into our country that's going to magically
01:36:10help British farmers Kate Holy people think we're born yesterday
01:36:14well. 'I don't, I think Andy Burnham must think that we're all rather
01:36:18gullible, because the reality is that um, you know, in terms
01:36:22of helping farmers, farmers have were desperate to get
01:36:26out the European Union, yes, of course it hasn't everything hasn't worked out
01:36:30as perhaps we would have like, but you
01:36:31know the reality is that unless you have a government in power who actually
01:36:35believes in leaving the EU properly, who believes that
01:36:39actually we're better to have our own sovereignty, he believes that we're better to be able to make our
01:36:43own rules and cooperate'. where it's necessary, unless we
01:36:47get that, we are never going to get the kind of
01:36:51brexit that all of us who come in for it wanted, and I
01:36:54mean, my only hope is, cuz you want to be hopeful, particularly to all
01:36:58those levers out there who must be feeling pretty miserable today when they've seen
01:37:02how Andy Burnam has has
01:37:05changed, that that we have two political parties
01:37:09now vying
01:37:10to be, I would have thought to be leading the campaign to stay out the Europe.
01:37:15union, conservatives and reform, now the
01:37:18conservatives screwed up massively in how we left, and
01:37:22reform now has to show that they are a serious
01:37:26party that can actually believe, well we know they believe in it,
01:37:30but
01:37:31we we can't rely on labor to do anything other than get us back in as
01:37:35quickly as possible. katherine forser, in terms the
01:37:38negotiations of lord david
01:37:41frost, he was called frosty. no
01:37:45man, his job was to say
01:37:48men not to michelle barnier, mean you could argue he didn't say no
01:37:52strong enough on things like fishing, but that ship has
01:37:56sailed, but if we're negotiating with Brussels now with a prime
01:38:00minister who said is his stated aim within his lifetime
01:38:03to rejoin, this is like negotiating with a burgler about
01:38:07how much silver they take out with the yeah, mean let's face it, they
01:38:11the European union were incredibly upset that we want wanted
01:38:15to go, they were going to make it difficult for us because they wanted to make an
01:38:19example of us so that other country would be so silly to do the
01:38:23same thing, but if uh labor and the libdems put it
01:38:27a manifesto that we'll start talks about
01:38:29rejoining, um, well we're just
01:38:33lying down and inviting the European Union surely to walk all over
01:38:37us, I mean what would the terms be, I can't see how
01:38:41people can really know whether or not we should rejoin until we know...
01:38:45does that mean taking the euro? does that mean accepting we're part the Shengen? what is it
01:38:49going to cost us? we we don't know any of those
01:38:51things we listening to Richard
01:38:54Ty. diplomatic
01:38:58immunity, well
01:39:01i hope uh the honorable gentlemen will understand that i am not going to
01:39:05uh get into those matters on the floor of this house, the home
01:39:09secretary uh will make a statement later today and we'll
01:39:12provide more detail dr
01:39:16ruper from we just missed what what richard ty said there
01:39:20we'll dig that out play it back to see what richard ty he's the only reformer who's been
01:39:24called to their feet since the debate started you think the get a break
01:39:28to tear on their feet,
01:39:29but look, the live debate is raging on and there's a second debate
01:39:33elsewhere about petition to rejoin, they're on maneuvers, and thirdly
01:39:37Shabana Mahmoud, the home secretary is set to speak, we believe in about under an
01:39:40hour's time national security and situation around Nigel
01:39:44Farage and Ann Widdeckham and the terror threats
01:39:47they've faced so far, thanks baranisk howeey, thank you Katherine,
01:39:51thank you Nigel, please stick with us till five playing more to come to reaction, the prime
01:39:55minister's pledge for closer relationship with the European Union, it's Brexit,
01:39:59groundhog
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01:43:06well combat time is 4:42 with me martin here on GB News. the prime
01:43:10minister Andy Burnam has unveiled series of measures aimed to bring in Britain
01:43:14closer to its European budies there in Brussels and remind
01:43:18ourselves of what the conservative leader Kemy Beadenock said regarding the prime minister's
01:43:22plans to cozy up with the EU. here he
01:43:25is unpicking the deal. "this country signed with the EU
01:43:29decade after the referendum, he is not going to get
01:43:33better deal, the EU are tough
01:43:36negotiators, and Mr. Speaker, it's not just that the EU are
01:43:40tough negotiators, he has already revealed his entire
01:43:44negotiating hand, he has just blurted out everything he wants
01:43:48in this statement, and I will tell you, tell him now, Mr. Speaker, as
01:43:52a former trade secretary, this is not how you conduct
01:43:55negotiations. That's g ball there telling
01:43:59Andy Burnham how to negotiate with Brussils Baroness Kate Toy
01:44:03of course one the big beats of Brexit to have you in the studio today do you
01:44:07think the Conservatives can really get on their high hours about? negotiating with
01:44:10Brasil, well I'm just thinking that when Kemy B had power, she actually
01:44:14refused to get rid of lot the EU laws, do remember we were
01:44:18having a bill that was going to go through that was going to like get rid of all
01:44:22them, well not all them, but most them right away, and she stopped
01:44:26that uh and rode back on it, so you
01:44:30know none the conservatives really, apart from those who were
01:44:33absolutely committed and involved in campaigning for
01:44:37leave can actually hold up to say, that
01:44:40you know they've they've got record that's worth um worth
01:44:44um no pushing, but I mean to be fair, I i think some
01:44:48the statements she's made more recently have been very, very strong,
01:44:52and I think
01:44:53we have to, we can't keep just going on about the you know
01:44:57the the Boris Wave and all of that, because now they are
01:45:00supposedly committed to to -
01:45:04reversing that, um, I, I thought, I, I didn't, I was a bit
01:45:08disappointed in her today, actually, I thought she's would be stronger and and
01:45:11more, take on Andy, burn more. I think that
01:45:15there's um, still that, because they're both, he's new, and I
01:45:19think she's been trying to kind of be a bit nicer, perhaps this new
01:45:23politics that they keep talking about, which never happens politics.
01:45:26I want to bring you in if I could for a quick nibble before the break, brexit's back on the
01:45:30menu, front and square, it is,
01:45:34and if that's the case, if we are going to
01:45:38a potential general election. where Andy Burnham says all options on the table, then that
01:45:42would draw the remain, the rejoin vote. Is this a gift for
01:45:46Nigel Farage, is this presenting him with the opportunity to be
01:45:49Mr. Brexit again or is that a battle that's kind of now been
01:45:53fought, and well my view is we've had, it has
01:45:57been fought and we're not going back in, um, and that is not what
01:46:01Andy Burnem was talking about at the moment, it may be that as the
01:46:05negotiations go on wel see
01:46:07some great deal coming from Europe. I don't believe it, you don't believe
01:46:11it, Kate certainly doesn't believe it, the moment what we're talking about
01:46:15is reset with Europe, and when Kate was talking about um, the fact
01:46:18we never got rid of all EU laws, it just shows how
01:46:22little thought we ever put into Brexit, because laws were
01:46:26too tied up with British law, seat belt law for example,
01:46:29half EU, half it's British, it was impossible to
01:46:33disentangle it, which is why Kemy better not did what she did, yeah, and to
01:46:37use that analogy, that's why the whole thing was the car crack.
01:46:40'sovereignty was about uncoupling completely
01:46:44unbuckle from brussels, mean we didn't have a leadership that that
01:46:48had enough confidence in our own country to actually do
01:46:52those really really difficult things, which would have been to say, yep, sorry,
01:46:55but that's it, and we're going to now start our own of being able to be
01:46:59confident about what we do ourselves and not rely on on on
01:47:03on on the rest the EU. okay, thank you very much indeed for now, stick with us because there plenty
01:47:07more come, more reaction to the prime minister's pledge for cl'. relationship with the
01:47:10European Union, but next will be live in the Falkland Islands with our man Mark
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01:50:26Welcome back, time is 10-5 with me Martin Dolby here on GB News, now the
01:50:30Brexit battle is fully on, made no mistake,
01:50:34Andy Burnham laid out the terms, I believe of a future
01:50:38campaign to rejoin the European Union today on the chamber flow, been joined by Catherine
01:50:42Forster and Nigel Nelson, Katherine, you draw drawn to my
01:50:45attention, um, while we were debating here in the
01:50:49studio, some questions were raised by labour party back benchers.
01:50:52about freedom of movement, yes, so Jonathan Hinder and
01:50:56Melanie on two uh red wall labor MPs asked the
01:51:00prime minister if he could assure them that there wouldn't be no
01:51:04freedom of movement, now he didn't give uh a proper answer
01:51:08to Jonathan Hinder, but then to Melanie on, he did
01:51:12say um the red lines the manifesto remain in place,
01:51:16which of course is that we stay outside the EU, no return
01:51:20to uh the single market, the... union or
01:51:23freedom of movement um, but the thing is he is
01:51:26setting, he's setting out that he's ruling
01:51:30nothing out, as he said a couple of weeks ago, we could go all the way
01:51:34back in, so okay, he's ruling out for this
01:51:38parliament, even when he calls that general election, and some speculation it could
01:51:42be december, let's hope not, um, they could be very
01:51:46different red lines which could leave everything uh on the table, so who
01:51:49knows uh where we're going, but it's such a... change from his
01:51:53language during Makerfield which was all about, we're not going to reopen this. Niger
01:51:57Nelson, my analysis the entire labor party now. I think
01:52:01there are 10, 10 labor MPs that
01:52:05now presently support Brexit in any capacity. Graham Stringer
01:52:09is the grandfather of Brexit in the party, he's the only remaining
01:52:122016 parliamentarian who actually backed Brexit. The
01:52:16parliamentary labour party is stuff to the guills with
01:52:20remainers, rejoiners. euro
01:52:23files, the red lines Andy Burnham talks about now
01:52:27will soon become blue and gold lines,
01:52:30direction of travelers, the labour party wants to rejoin, well th those
01:52:34red lines stay as long as the manifesto does, which means
01:52:38it means until we get to a general election, there we go, do you think this this
01:52:42a public consultation, a conversation, dress it up how
01:52:46you like, will be on the electoral ticket for for the labor party, I do, well it might
01:52:49be, but we're looking at 2029 at the moment, well we
01:52:53well the idea that he would call an election uh now and
01:52:57throw away 166 majority i think is for the
01:53:01birds
01:53:01but he can't do anything for three he's he's locked into a manifesto he
01:53:05clearly doesn't want if he goes to election earlier he might have a smaller majority but
01:53:09have five years of power to suckle up to the buzm of well if he could
01:53:13win I mean that no prime minister calls an election unless they think they
01:53:17can win it um under the present polling Andy burnan would end up with a
01:53:21coalition with the lib dems and with the
01:53:24SMP and what do they all have in common? well, they all want to rejoin the European
01:53:28Union, they get the full block support, but
01:53:32we first of all get past 20th of November when we actually
01:53:36when we have the EU Summit and find out what comes from that.
01:53:40he's probab promising us 10 billion billion pounds worth of
01:53:43growth, there are business leaders feel the same way.
01:53:47let's see if it happens, but at the moment all we're talking about is getting
01:53:51closer relations with Europe to get rid the cost of border
01:53:55controls, many people out there in Brexit
01:53:58land, in the red wall, in GB Newslands will think
01:54:02there's only one word for this: betrayal,
01:54:06the betrayal of Brexit, the Brexit, that
01:54:10man our prime minister, then the the MP for Makerfield or the
01:54:14candidate for Makerfield, you previously that had said it's his lifetime
01:54:18ambition to rejoin the European Union, now prime minister, will that
01:54:22ambition? overtake him, is that now going to be on the
01:54:26electoral ticket to rejoin the European Union, or at least have a
01:54:30full conversation about all options, has Brexit been
01:54:33betrayed? As Britain heads for another
01:54:37conversation, a summit with the European Union. That's next here on GB
01:54:41News.
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02:00:16hey very... Very good afternoon to you and a happy Monday
02:00:19a warm welcome to you, it's 5 p.m. welcome to
02:00:21the Molton Darby show here on GB News broadcasting for you all the
02:00:24way through until six cracking show awaits Brexit back
02:00:28on the menu open to discussion
02:00:32about our relationship with the EU in the longer
02:00:35term. the prime minister Andy Burnam today has told
02:00:39members of parliament the status quo is not good enough for Britain
02:00:43as he confirmed to members of parliament he will seek a closer
02:00:47relationship with the European Union, a summit with earth von
02:00:51Daleian in November and a love letter to Brussels and
02:00:55red rose between the prime minister's teeth with reaction to
02:00:58this huge breaking news story. We have no
02:01:02idea of who is here, there are too many people here
02:01:06who frankly should not be here. We need time to sort
02:01:09out the mess. Today Reform UK issued
02:01:13a dire warning to voters in Britain stating Britain won't.
02:01:17exist without deportations to combat the so-called invasion,
02:01:21as Nigel Farage but it, Mr. Farage threatened a five-year
02:01:25blockade on all asylum claims, immediate mass deportations of
02:01:2990,000 people, and a visa and trade war with
02:01:33nations who won't play ball, including Pakistan. This
02:01:36reforms most radical plan yet, but is it a step too
02:01:40far? Well, for people in the UK,
02:01:44they can of course be forgiven for thinking the Falkland's war. was
02:01:48over in 1982, but if you come here to the islands and you
02:01:51speak to local people, they will tell you very different
02:01:55story. and then a GB news exclusive from our
02:01:58man there, Marco Blanco, islanders on the Falklands have extended
02:02:02invitation to the U.S. president Donald Trump to visit the
02:02:06archipelago and see for himself how supremely
02:02:09proudly British they all are. That's all coming up in your next
02:02:12hour.
02:02:21'the battle for Brexit is well and truly
02:02:25on. In Chamber a short while ago, the prime minister Andy
02:02:29Burnham sent a love letter to Brussels, red rose the labour
02:02:32party between his teeth, a conference, a summit with Ursola
02:02:36Von delayan set for November the 20th. We were told there's nothing to worry
02:02:40about, this isn't about betraying Brexit at all,
02:02:44instead it will be a 10 billion pound boost to the'. economy by
02:02:482040, how we weren't told, there was no detail, we were
02:02:52told though that it will boost UK growth, growth, it will help control
02:02:55illegal immigration, like the Europe, the continent of Europe can
02:02:59even do that itself, there will be
02:03:02cheaper energy corporation, there will be a youth
02:03:06experience, that means freedom of movement, andy
02:03:10burnham on the campaign trail in Makerfield said he would not
02:03:14dishonor the Brexit vote or go back... his
02:03:18word, despite the fact he said, in opposition it was his
02:03:21lifetimes goal to re-enter, rejoin the European
02:03:24Union, now he's the prime minister, will that goal become his
02:03:28dream, will his dream become a nightmare for
02:03:3217.4 million brexiteers, once again a parliamentary class
02:03:35thinking, they know better, they
02:03:38want us to roll the dice again, and this time will they be waited in
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02:03:53Elsey,
02:04:00Martin, thank you, your top stories from the GB news room at 3 minutes past
02:04:04five. Andy Burnam will use key UK EU summit next
02:04:08month to push for new post Brexit deals with the block as
02:04:12he insists the status quo is not good enough for Britain.
02:04:16The two sides will seek to... sign new food and drink agreement,
02:04:19a youth mobility scheme, and pact on emissions trading,
02:04:23which the prime minister hopes could provide a 10 billion pound boost to the
02:04:27economy. addressing the commons, he told MPs it would be a
02:04:31dereliction of duty not to seek a deeper partnership with the
02:04:35European Union, but said the British public will be the boss at
02:04:38every stage of renegotiating the
02:04:41relationship. Andy Burnam says it's
02:04:44inconceivable to think Russia had sought to interfere in
02:04:48the Brexit referendum. The Prime Minister has faced backlash over his
02:04:52suggestion that Moscow tried to influence the vote, but
02:04:56he insists he was not trying to question the legitimacy of... the
02:05:002016 referendum, the prime minister and other
02:05:03officials have since tried to clarify that any Russian interference
02:05:07was not successful in swaying the
02:05:10outcome. Meanwhile, the prime minister says the
02:05:14suspected terror plot at Raf Fairford was highly likely
02:05:18coordinated in Iran and almost certainly directed
02:05:22by the IRGC. The airbase in Glostershire has been used
02:05:26by US bombers to carry out strikes on Iran, but last week
02:05:30Following the incident, President Donald Trump removed all the
02:05:33planes. Six people have been arrested in relation to the incident, but
02:05:37all since released on bail. Nigel Farage
02:05:41has promised to introduce five-year ban on migrants being granted asylum,
02:05:45if Reform UK wins the next general election. At a press
02:05:48conference in Kent, he announced plans to shut down the asylum system
02:05:52for a full parliamentary term and deport around
02:05:5690,00 people currently on the waiting list. So. "the
02:06:00public want action, not just a
02:06:04continual series of false promises, or
02:06:08the absolutely extraordinary current government
02:06:11line, well the numbers are coming down, so that's okay,
02:06:14then it's only 20,000 this year, so that's okay
02:06:18then, if I said to you decade ago, 20,00 people in the
02:06:22first nine months would be processed through the port of Dover,
02:06:26having come by Dingi, you literally wouldn't have believed me."
02:06:31The council responsible for licensing Yorkshire Wildlife Park where a
02:06:35man was killed by tiger has launched a health and safety
02:06:38investigation into the incident. The man entered the Tiger's enclosure
02:06:42on Saturday and despite the efforts of medical teams he was pronounced dead at
02:06:46the scene. The park remained closed today and confirmed the Tiger is
02:06:50safe and well and will not be
02:06:52uthenized. And a World War II
02:06:55veteran Henry Price Rice sorry has died at the age of
02:06:59100. He served as a signalman on HMS
02:07:02Eastway, supplying men and equipment to various beaches as part
02:07:06the Normandy landings. He arrived at Junor Beach five days
02:07:10after D-Day. He received the legend the honor from the French
02:07:13government and had calls for schools to teach children
02:07:17more about the war. Previously speaking to GB News he was
02:07:21concerned history could repeat itself. How important
02:07:25is it to you that we remember all of our troops at
02:07:29the our troops? to risk their lives on that
02:07:31day, oh obviously it's most
02:07:34important, but having said that, why should
02:07:38i go different and say why are certain
02:07:42people in the world today having lived
02:07:46during this period, why are they trying to do it all
02:07:50over again? those
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02:08:27Thank you Bethany. The battle for Brexit is. well and
02:08:30truly on, because Andy Burnham, the prime minister today insisted that it
02:08:34would be a deroliction of duty to rule out forging
02:08:38closer ties with the European Union, a statement in the commons a short while
02:08:42ago, the prime minister told MPs the Britain should set a
02:08:46quotes serious dialogue with our European partners, take
02:08:50a little listen, open to discussion about our
02:08:53relationship with the EU in the longer term, if
02:08:57we are serious, We are
02:09:01serious about promoting growth,
02:09:04controlling immigration, upholding our values and
02:09:08security, it is a conversation we must
02:09:11have. Sticking with the status quo
02:09:15is not good enough for Britain, worse it
02:09:19would be major deriction of duty to turn away. We need
02:09:23to take a calm, clear eyed rational look at the world as it is today
02:09:27to consider what is best for our country. Our immediate
02:09:31priority is securing successful outcome at the summit and I
02:09:35believe we should then set up serious dialogue about the different options for our
02:09:39relationship in the long term. This is the leadership we need
02:09:42to draw a decade, to draw a line a decade
02:09:46of drift and division and take the country
02:09:49forward. A voila a brexit
02:09:53uturn to Kier Starmer would have been proud of. Conservative leader Keny
02:09:57bay wasted no time in blasting Burnham's.
02:10:01Here he is, unpicking the deal, this country signed with the
02:10:04EU decade after the referendum, he
02:10:08is not going to get better deal, the EU are
02:10:12tough. negotiators and Mr. Speaker, it's not just that the
02:10:15EU are tough negotiators, he has already revealed his entire
02:10:19negotiating hand, he has just blurted out everything he wants
02:10:23in this statement, and I will tell you, tell him now, Mr. Speaker, as
02:10:27a former trade sectory, this is not how you conduct
02:10:30negotiations. Is this a brexit
02:10:34betrayal, and is the prime minister going back on his word, well let's remind
02:10:38ourselves the previous statements from Andy Burnham on Brexit in
02:10:41May, 2026 before he became the prime minister.
02:10:45my view is that Brexit has been damaging, but I
02:10:49also believe the last thing we should do right now is
02:10:53rerun those arguments. I
02:10:55am not proposing that the UK considers rejoining the EU. I respect
02:10:59the decision that was made at the referendum
02:11:01and it's going to undermine everything said I've said about strengthening
02:11:05democracy if we don't respect that
02:11:07vote. no, no, no, the prime
02:11:11minister is not suggest. thing we revisit the Brexit referendum, he's not at
02:11:15all suggesting, we talk about rejoining the European Union,
02:11:19then today he did precisely that, he did
02:11:22precisely that, he said everything should be on the table,
02:11:26the public should be the boss and the mood music is a
02:11:30serenade with Ursa Vandelayan, a summit on
02:11:34November the 20th in Brussels of all places with the government
02:11:38stacked full of rejoiners, labor party packed.
02:11:42the girls with people no doubt who wear blue and gold
02:11:46underwear, seriously, brexit is
02:11:50back on the menu, who can believe
02:11:53it, me? I'm in the studio by GB news chief political correspondence,
02:11:57Katherine Forster and GB News a senior political commentator Nigel
02:12:01Nelson. Katherine, we watched slack,
02:12:05slack Jord, we were baffled,
02:12:08overwhelmed by the fact, as you've repeatedly...
02:12:13pointed out to our viewers and listeners, it was just in May on the
02:12:17campaign trail in Makerfield when the then candidate for
02:12:20Makerfield, the previous mayor of Manchester said he
02:12:24would never dream of assuming Brexit,
02:12:28now he's a prime minister, that's precisely what he
02:12:32did, lot of people watching this today and there's only one word that
02:12:36leaps to mine, Catherine Forcer betrayal,
02:12:40well uh Nigel Farage has... accused him, hasn't he of being
02:12:44a liar, um, certainly it seems to me that what he's
02:12:48saying now and what he said on the campaign trail are very, very different
02:12:51things, but it feels like ground talk day, are we really going to do
02:12:55this? again, we had years of
02:12:58brexit arguments, rows, parliament voting against
02:13:02everything, it took up so much bandwidth
02:13:06and prevented us from getting on with lots of other very
02:13:09real problems, and Andy Burnham talks about... it now he
02:13:13isn't saying we must rejoin, but he's clearly saying there are many
02:13:16options, and this would be one them after a general
02:13:20election, but all the immediate problems
02:13:24that are really very serious -
02:13:27about, you might have thought we'd hear more about those today, so the
02:13:31situation in Iran, what's going on in Ukraine and the fact
02:13:35that both these wars are sending our energy bills through the
02:13:39roof, already happened with Russia, Ukraine, now it's...
02:13:42happening uh with the conflict in Iran, you know, filling your tank
02:13:46of energy bills to heat our homes,
02:13:49rocketing, and Donald Trump is scrabbling
02:13:53around trying to get diesel, buying it from
02:13:56Putin, uh, the very opposite of
02:13:59what we really would want to be doing, it's an
02:14:03almighty mess, it's hurting all of us, and here we
02:14:06are having hypothetical arguments of
02:14:10something that may or may not happen, we've... got no idea what the
02:14:14EU would offer us, but what we do know is
02:14:16as Kemy Bednock said, they are tough at negotiators and
02:14:20if Andy Burnham wants to take us into a general election in
02:14:23the future, pledging to reopen talks, what in to
02:14:27give us a good deal, they certainly didn't do it last time,
02:14:31well hang on, Andy Burnham delivered deal today that sounded
02:14:35too good to be true, and that's probably because it is,
02:14:38because Brussels would nail us to the floor, they nailed us to the... floor
02:14:42when we had vaguely pro- brexit team negotiating with michelle
02:14:46b who dance rings around us. this look, the labor
02:14:50party, by my reckon there's about 10 MPs that actually
02:14:54like or stand for brexit in any capacity, they'd roll
02:14:58over and have their bellies tickled like terrier in
02:15:01brussels by ursela
02:15:03von delayan, but we were told today Nigel Nelson, don't
02:15:07worry, the new deal hasn't been specified, we don't have the framework
02:15:11at all, hasn't been negotiated. yet, but we were told it would add 10 billion pounds to
02:15:15the UK economy, don't worry, it will boost UK growth, it
02:15:18will cut red tape for farmers, the chamber burst out laughing as
02:15:22if the labor policy defender formers. anytime ever, don't worry, they
02:15:26said control legal immigration, but the European Union content
02:15:30con itself control its own borders, it's an illusion,
02:15:34fantasy to say they can control our borders, don't
02:15:38worry, there'd be a youth experience scheme we were told by the prime
02:15:41minister, that's freedom of movement, under different guys, we've gone from
02:15:45project fear to project fantasy, well first of
02:15:49all you absolutely right when you use the word it's a framework, what we've got at the
02:15:53moment on the table is a framework for deal on
02:15:56November the 20th when the EU summit takes place, so
02:16:00within that deal uh you are talking about controlling
02:16:04im illegal immigration, you do that because what's on the
02:16:07table is we can go back to uh the data
02:16:11sharing we used to have with you happened, so we will get
02:16:14intelligence on people coming over here which we're not able to get at the
02:16:18moment, how much difference that make, I don't know, how how did that make the
02:16:22European Union border safer during the immigration? crisis of
02:16:252015 when over million Syrians poured in, it's
02:16:29a fantasy nadu to say that having access to this data base that
02:16:33they currently have access to, 70,000 swam
02:16:37into suita, the millions in one day, the million syrians that
02:16:41database prevent that the syrians who went into Germany were
02:16:44invited there, different, we're talking about the broke into Greece
02:16:48and Turkey, well I mean they've been trying to get, they've been they
02:16:52they have been going into Greece and Turkey in the same... the boats are
02:16:56coming coming across the channel and coming here, which we can't stop?
02:17:00no, at the moment we can't, so it would help, it would help if we had
02:17:04access to the european intelligence, well you
02:17:06would, if we if we knew some the people coming in and we could
02:17:10actually see those
02:17:11databases,
02:17:16don't know how how much difference will make, but but think about britain, don't don't talk
02:17:20about, although there are similarities, well no, because we
02:17:24rejoined. the
02:17:25the one the one conditions surely would be accepting
02:17:29asylum seekers from the continent
02:17:31the whole, that's what France wants, that's why the killed the one in one out deal, it's it's
02:17:35an illusion to say this would in any way be stated in favor of us, but we
02:17:39told we need to get to my next guest quickly now the campaign manager the European
02:17:43movement, Richard Kilpatrick, Richard, welcome to the show, you must
02:17:47be licking your lips, but you can't believe your look, here we are again, last time you
02:17:51and I spoke, well there's no way this will happen in this parliament, it blowing well is mate.
02:17:55It's on the table, the prime minister just said it's going to be on the
02:17:58ticket. Yeah, but it's really interesting Martin cuz I think like honestly I
02:18:02think both sides of this debate will be left with scratching their heads a little bit w the because
02:18:06like like always detail is never really there is it? I think that
02:18:10let's let's look at where the prime minister currently sits. I think we've got
02:18:14the summit in on the 20th of November, I think that the reality is
02:18:17that he he needs to achieve something in that summit and I think it's quite quite clear
02:18:21that today we've learned what sort of things that the government will be focusing. but
02:18:25it's stuff that we've kown about for quite some time right, SBS deal, youth
02:18:29mobility, some of those issues that we know haven't quite worked
02:18:33over the last decade, but we know that we need to do something on, and then
02:18:37from my perspective, he's kicked into the long grass, that sort of national debate that we
02:18:41spoke to spoke about last time, that I think again, coming back to that
02:18:45that grown up debate that we need, and so I have to think, okay, well where's the motivations
02:18:48here, and some the polling that we've we've done just this week tells
02:18:52us that about three quarter of his own. of his own party, his own voter base in
02:18:562024, which was very interesting coalition of voter base,
02:19:00wasn't it? it wasn't just neutritional labor voters, it was lot of tories for the
02:19:04first time ever were voting here, but for for the first time, 75% of
02:19:08those
02:19:08of those voters would support his party if it had
02:19:11negotiating with the European Union on future membership at the
02:19:14next in his next manifesto, but in more
02:19:17interestingly that includes 43% of conservatives who think the same,
02:19:21so I think people can see that there's a change in the... national
02:19:25mood
02:19:26and and as always Martin, this this change can change very quickly right, people can move backwards
02:19:30and forwards on this debate, but I think that's certainly the motivation the prime
02:19:33minister, but the devil's in the detail, isn't it? I think
02:19:37I, British thoughters being the boss is really key to this, and it's something I'm very
02:19:41passionate about is making sure that we have that debate, I'm just, I'm, I'm not quite sure if the
02:19:45real politic of Europe or the real politic for what's happening in parliament is really
02:19:48behind what's happening here, Richard, I'll
02:19:52say something now, which is probably going to surp.
02:19:56"I think people like you have played a blinder, I think the
02:20:00remainer movement of played a blinder, with the entire help
02:20:04the mainstream media, with the entire help of academia, how many teachers
02:20:08voted for Brexit, how many children learn that Brexit was a good
02:20:11thing, how many universities teach the positivity of
02:20:15Brexit, how many newspapers, how many TV channels, and you're
02:20:19right, the polling will be ramped up because remain never
02:20:23stopped, I said in 2020." remaine won't stop and
02:20:27they didn't, and now they got the man in number 10, but
02:20:31but I think honestly half this is that like a similar sort of way
02:20:35as the prime minister talking about Russian interference like... "I don't actually think it's
02:20:38helpful, like one the things how Pauling is telling us is that actually
02:20:42that that back and forth stuff where you know we like to jump on facts,
02:20:46you like to jump on facts that that contradict each other, actually people are
02:20:50just sick of that debate, and it's like, okay, my life is worse than
02:20:54it was 10 years ago, how can I ensure that my government
02:20:58has that as its priority and actually makes my life better,
02:21:02and whether we like some aspects of working with
02:21:05Europe is going to have to do that." but but but Richard, the point is
02:21:09people's lives are worse in Germany, in France, in
02:21:13Italy, and that's it, but
02:21:16but the the portrayal is always our lives in Britain are uniquely
02:21:20worse because of Brexit, not you know uncontrolled immigration, not the
02:21:24Boris wave, not covid, Brexit, a comic cuz right Westminster
02:21:28now and Brexit will get the blame, but equally,
02:21:32like if we if we take it Germany is a really good example right, so Germany is a net
02:21:36contributor to the EU budget. as you well know, but it also means
02:21:40that it gets 8% of what it pears through the net net budget
02:21:43contribution back in terms of benefit to its economy, so we we
02:21:47know the economy is a massive issue, it's a massive issue for sure the
02:21:51country that feels like it's been left behind, and and swears the
02:21:55country just need something a bit different, and if we can help, if a little bit of that help to those
02:21:58communities means closer relationship with Europe means access to the
02:22:02single market means what again like, it's one of those situations where we'll
02:22:06probably both in
02:22:08that there is very little detail coming out the prime minister until we
02:22:11get that detail and until we find out whereabouts on this big national conversation he
02:22:15actually sits on it then we will never really know right but it's absolutely
02:22:19clear that people feel and that's come through a lot the polling people
02:22:23feel that there will be a benefit to their lives and certain further
02:22:27cooperation with Europe and we have to find the common ground there well people will
02:22:31believe it so long as they're told it and they'll be told it because like i
02:22:34say remain never stops the polling never the campaigning never
02:22:38stopped, the politicing never stopped, most those parliamentarians in there, they
02:22:42all believe in redrawing the European Union to my certain knowledge there are only 10
02:22:46labor MPs who even vaguely believe in Brexit,
02:22:50it's quite astonishing time, but listen mate, I always enjoy our
02:22:53conversations, I honestly do, Richard Kill Patrick, always a pleasure,
02:22:57never, thank you, now still to come, we'll be discussing much more on Nigel
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02:26:17it's 5:26 with me, Martin Dordman here! on GB News very much
02:26:21shell-shocked about the fact, trust me, Brexit is back on the table, the
02:26:24battle of Brexit is about to rage, now that man Nigel
02:26:28Farag today has placed a five year ban on migrants being granted
02:26:32asylum in Britain if Reform UK wins the next general election, all
02:26:36we're asking here is for normality, all we're asking here
02:26:40is for normal service to be
02:26:43resumed, and so yes we will
02:26:47end the asylum system for up to five years. and why are we
02:26:51going to do that? because we're in the most terrible mess as
02:26:55a country. we literally have no idea who is
02:26:58here, and we frankly can't afford
02:27:01to take the risk. let
02:27:05now speak with the home affairs commentator and former advisor to the labour
02:27:09party, Danny Shaw. Danny, certainly the most radical proposition
02:27:13yet from Nigel Farage, Britain cannot be refuge for the
02:27:17rest the world, that was the use if Nigel Farage. just want to be
02:27:21normal country, but it's going to be the biggest plan for mass deportations
02:27:25Britain has ever seen. what's your take
02:27:27a? normal country,
02:27:31um, traditionally, the United Kingdom has been a normal country that
02:27:34accepts people from um, from abroad,
02:27:38overseas, my grandparents came to this country from
02:27:41overseas, I'm sure there are thousands, millions of others, including some
02:27:45people who work for reform UK and
02:27:48we work for GB News. um
02:27:51that is normal country, normal country is a country that
02:27:53accepts um level of immigration and
02:27:57give sanctuary to people who are fleeing persecution and torture, so I don't know
02:28:01what sort of normal country Nigel Farage is talking about, but it's
02:28:05certainly not the normal kind of country that I think Britain
02:28:08is, I think Reform UK has made huge
02:28:12mistake here, it's a massive strategic goal in my view,
02:28:16because the plans lack any shred of...
02:28:20ability whatsoever,
02:28:22and I think they will be laughed out of court. Um, if
02:28:26they had come up with a should
02:28:31be diff credible radical danny,
02:28:31would two that points. First of all, why should why should courts
02:28:35decide what a country's a sovereign nation is allowed to do? Court shouldn't
02:28:39be in control of what Briden does, that's always been part the problem. Secondly, you
02:28:43talk about normal country, what kind of normal country allows 10
02:28:47million immigrants in both through the front door? and the back door,
02:28:51legal and illegal, in the 14 years the conservative party has been in power,
02:28:55the country's changed beyond any comparison to what it was when your
02:28:58man, Tony Blair opened the flood gates the rest the world, people have bad
02:29:02enough, people want to see moderate,
02:29:05sensible controlled immigration policy, we blumin well don't have it,
02:29:09yeah people want to see moderate sensible controlled immigration policy, and what reform UK
02:29:13is proposing is not a moderate sensible immigration policy, people
02:29:17want to see their immigration controlled and the... Absolutely right,
02:29:21and at the moment we don't have, we at the moment, hang a second,
02:29:24Martin, at the moment we don't have control over our
02:29:27borders, that's quite clear, and immigration was
02:29:31hugely too high, particularly in the conservative years and the Boris
02:29:35Wave, and it needs to be brought back under control, and
02:29:39I i agree with all of that, but these proposals are luticrous,
02:29:43I mean, where are you going to build 24,000 places to
02:29:47detain illegal immigrants, there are about 2,5
02:29:50h places
02:29:50and they're pretty full at the moment, where are you going to build them? how
02:29:54long is that going to take? where are you going to get the money for that? we can't even build a
02:29:58prison with for a thousand places, it takes about five years,
02:30:01mean this is cloud cookool politics, if you can
02:30:05build for example if you can build um
02:30:08you know nighting hospitals, don't talk to me about nighting hospitals
02:30:12martin, nightingal hospital does not need the level of security
02:30:16that you need that is envisaged in these plans with the...
02:30:20starfing, the security and
02:30:22everything else, and people will not want those places, look at look at the trouble you've
02:30:26got trying to build an immigration
02:30:28center, danny is one for you then,
02:30:31so instead of like magically finding rif bases for asylums seeks to break
02:30:35into our country illegally, how about we we we put put
02:30:39people in those containment centers who come here illegally, but we
02:30:43contain them, let's get every or
02:30:46the country, you happy to have one of those centers in in your in your village, are you?
02:30:50because i think there will be lot of won't
02:30:52residents that's so that's one
02:30:55who ludicrous notion buse at the moment people can
02:30:59go in there and wander around the village and do whatever the bluming world they want and people feel
02:31:02scared and we're seeing crying go up, contain it, have a containment
02:31:06center, treat it as a place where the trouble this government has
02:31:10had trying to build a containment center called a prison in
02:31:13buckinghamshire and in Lankashire, have you got any
02:31:17idea about the problems they've had getting those off the ground, they can't build them, it
02:31:21takes years, so the idea you're going to build 24,000
02:31:25places is frankly ludicrous and you know it is, and
02:31:28reform note
02:31:29it is and it's just headline grabbing. roll over and just
02:31:33invite the rest the world in,
02:31:35add infinitum. No, no, Martin, that's not, it's not
02:31:39one or the other. You know, there has to be control,
02:31:43I absolutely agree with that, and there has to be reappraisal the
02:31:46system, and this government is going some way to trying to do that
02:31:50with tougher rules about indefinite leave to remain and so on, but the idea, I
02:31:54think this is a massive by reform. If they want to attract
02:31:58conservative voters to their cause and move
02:32:01people away. to reform, you're not going to do
02:32:04it with this kind of ludicrous nonsensical uh policy
02:32:07ideas, quite frankly. Okay, Danny, always a play
02:32:11to have your company, I like, I like it when we fall out, it's beautiful, thank you very much, Danny, see you
02:32:15again next time, always a pleasure, cheers mate, now play more still to come, but for now for traveling
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02:33:21Burnam will use key UK EU summit next month to push for new
02:33:25post Brexit deals with the block as he insists the status
02:33:29quo is not good enough for Britain and... Bernam says it's
02:33:33inconceivable to think Russia hadn't sought to interfere in the
02:33:36Brexit referendum, but insists the legitimacy the
02:33:402016 vote was not compromised. The
02:33:44Prime Minister says the suspected terror plot in RF Fairford was highly
02:33:48likely coordinated in Iran and almost certainly directed by
02:33:52the IRGC. The foreign secretary has summoned Iran's
02:33:55ambassador to the UK. Nigel Farage has promised to
02:33:59introduce five-year ban on migrants being granted as and to
02:34:03deport around 90,000 people on the waiting list, if
02:34:07reform UK win the next election, and the council
02:34:10responsible for licensing Yorkshire Wildlife Park, where a man was
02:34:14killed by tiger has launched a health and safety investigation
02:34:18into the incident. You're up to date for now, I'll have a full round
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02:37:45Welcome back time is 5:37, you're with me, Martin Dolby here on
02:37:49GB News, now Andy Burnham today
02:37:51in parliament insisted it would be a dereliction of duty to rule
02:37:55out forging closer ties with his beloved European
02:37:59Union, the debate there is still raging in the commons as you can
02:38:02see, but a statement in the commons the prime minister told MPs that
02:38:06Britain should set up serious dialogue with its European
02:38:10partners. Well let's discuss that now in the studio with GB News's chief political
02:38:14correspondents. and GB News in senior political commentator
02:38:18Nigel Nelson. Katherine, I'm now the
02:38:22mind, I'm convinced that at some point in the future rejoin will
02:38:26be a labor party manifesto and that seems to be gathering place.
02:38:29Emily Thornbery is broken, an arch rejoiner, an arch remainer,
02:38:33remaniac all along. Tell her what you said earlier. Yes, so Emily
02:38:37Thornbury, who is chair the foreign affairs select select
02:38:40committee has said an interview this afternoon
02:38:44asked. whether um there should be
02:38:48another referendum,
02:38:50you know,
02:38:51potentially uh, no, I think we should put it in the next labor manifesto, and if
02:38:55we win, just do it. Now,
02:38:58when we join without even putting it to the people, that
02:39:01basically if rejoining was put
02:39:05into the next labor manifesto, if we win, we
02:39:09will seek to rejoin the European Union, they could then take
02:39:13that as an endorsement much like... Joe Swinson the Lib Dems
02:39:17said, if you vote for the Liberal Democrats, I will just
02:39:21overturn article 50, I will cancel Brexit, and
02:39:24can I can I just say, um, when Andy Burna made that speech in
02:39:28Liverpool talking about Brexit doing more harm than good and so on and so
02:39:32forth and having discussions, there was a lobby huddle immediately
02:39:36afterwards uh with his spokesperson and we said
02:39:39again and again, can you guarantee there would be
02:39:43referendum in that? event and they would not
02:39:47do so, so I think the fact that Emily Thornbury has
02:39:50broken cover and said that will ring some alarm
02:39:54bells. Angel Nelson, Emily Thornbery calls famousy wall
02:39:57that necklace of blue and gold and now she's
02:40:01revealed the mask slit and it's blue and gold
02:40:05underneath, she's now just admitting, saying the quiet part out
02:40:09now, there would even be second referendum, it'd just be on the manifesto and if we
02:40:13win we'll rejoin without even. bring it to the people, well Emily has not being
02:40:17helpful and bear in mind she is also telling the truth,
02:40:21not a member the government, um, yes you could do it that way, I
02:40:25mean you could argue you get democratic mandate if you elected a future
02:40:29labor government on that kind of platform over democracy, but I i
02:40:33do think that - because of precedence it would be
02:40:36inconceivable for any government, should this be on the table at the
02:40:39next election, I'm not sure it will be, should it be on the table, you would have
02:40:43to have referendum because Andrew rosendell in chamber there speaking, can we get to Andrew rosendell see
02:40:47what reformers to say? no we can't. okay, andrew rosendell speaking
02:40:51there, shame
02:40:52we can't hear what he's got to say because the whole debate has been packed full of
02:40:55rejoiners, remainers, lee
02:40:57anderson,
02:41:04okay, he sat down okay, but that was andrew rosendell there, anderson next to
02:41:08him, richard ty spoke earlier on, but let's face let's talk about the
02:41:11parliamentary metrics of this catherine forcer, did some research into the
02:41:15parliamentary labor party polling out today saying 58% of
02:41:19labor members would like to rejoin, i think it's much more than that in terms the
02:41:22mps, i think there are only 10 labor MPs that any capacity
02:41:26support. Brexit, there'd be lot of red wall
02:41:30MPs out there today, looking down the barrel of being
02:41:33annihilated if this was put to
02:41:35the to the public, because Andy Bern, you keep pointing out when he was the candidate for Makerfield,
02:41:39said he would never revisit the Brexit referendum, today it's
02:41:43now the stakes are even higher, not only could there be
02:41:46rejoin movement, Emeley Thornby has just said that we wouldn't even put it to
02:41:50vote, we just put it in the manifesto and rejo without even allowing the people ever
02:41:54say the contempt the electorate is dripping from her. Well that's a
02:41:58possibility and I was concerned when the prime minister's spokesman
02:42:01straight after his speech in Liverpool would not rule that out,
02:42:05but look, I mean, when people voted to leave the European Union,
02:42:09the vast majority of NPS
02:42:12uh were against us leaving, let's face it, the
02:42:16vast majority the civil service was against us
02:42:20leaving uh, so there were some pretty powerful figures that thought it
02:42:24was very, very bad idea, and yes, as you say, 'there's
02:42:27only a handful of labor MPs that voted to leave
02:42:31and some the red wall MPs, people like Jonathan Hinder will
02:42:35be incredibly worried about this sort of issue rearing its head
02:42:39again, he has sort of reassurance that there would be no return
02:42:43to freedom of movement and has not got it, although Andy
02:42:46Burnham is still saying, look
02:42:48we will stick to our red lines uh, no customs union,
02:42:52no we're joining the customs union, single market etc etc, but that
02:42:55only applies to this parliament'. so if and when Andy Burnham has a general
02:42:59election, which um, I mean, please know, but some people think could
02:43:03be as soon as December of this year, um, I
02:43:07think all bets are off as to what they put in it. Okay, thank you Kather, just
02:43:11reminder live picture on your screen from the House of Commons. Shabar Mahmoud, the home
02:43:15secretary is expected to address parliament soon
02:43:17and included in that statement will be an update on the situation of Nigel
02:43:21Farage and Ann Widdeckham of course who are subjected
02:43:25to terror attack. Andy Burnham's still
02:43:29taking the floor there and extended debate about national security but ahead of
02:43:32going to shabon Mahmoud in the commons are Nigel Nelson let's get back
02:43:36to this notion and you have a rise smile on your face when I when I say
02:43:40I I think the direction of travel now is leading towards Brussels I always
02:43:44felt the level playing field was Tilson in favor of Brussels I think now it's even
02:43:48more tilted in favor than Brussels we had Frosty the no man's lord David
02:43:52Frost who negotiated on behalf of Britain then at least he made fist of Brexit many
02:43:56people think that no deal with. the best deal, we be betrayed fishing, we
02:43:59betrayed all sorts of notions, but this government
02:44:03now is stuffed to the rafters with rejoiners, i think we i think
02:44:07we're going back, i think we're going back to Brazils,
02:44:10i know you do, um - and you know that i don't think we're
02:44:13going back, mean let's just take take things away from
02:44:17the reset we're having at the moment, which is i think as far as we're going to go
02:44:21and then everything's on the table, if we were to go back to
02:44:25um if the negotiation was would we be rejoining
02:44:29nation or would we be new entry nation?
02:44:33uh, would we then as a new entry have to accept the euro? so there
02:44:36are so many, there are so many things that would come up um that Europe may
02:44:40demand, that is why I don't think it's going to happen,
02:44:44but let's put it all on the table, let's see where we get
02:44:48to, and if we get that far, then put it to the British
02:44:52people, put it to the British people, can you
02:44:54believe that just ten less than 10 and a half
02:44:58years later after June 2016, here we are, who do
02:45:01the thought? they're just 10 years on, Boris
02:45:05Johnson, let's face it, squanded the opportunities of Brexit,
02:45:09failed to control our borders, the Boris Wave annihilated any
02:45:13notion of taking back control, ask British fishermen if they ever
02:45:17feel we took back control, ask British businesses
02:45:20if they feel we were taken back control, think as the working class
02:45:24the Britain who watched their towns pile. full of people from the
02:45:28third world instead of people from Poland and Romania if they believe
02:45:32we ever took back control, the working class has been ground
02:45:35into the dirt by the last 10 years and the political
02:45:39class once again living a parallel universe, now
02:45:43I think all roads back to Brisells, here let's get
02:45:46to the commission, I will make a statement national security,
02:45:50since the house last sat we have received reminder the threats ranged
02:45:54against this country, this has included the danger post by
02:45:57extremists and terrorists, but it has also comprom comprised
02:46:01threats posed by foreign powers seeking to undermine our nation
02:46:05security. These threats have targeted people,
02:46:08businesses, and critical infrastructure, but above all else,
02:46:12they are attacks on our values and our way of life.
02:46:16The first duty of government is the security the nation. So
02:46:20today, I will update the house on our response to these threats and
02:46:24how we are keeping acting to keep our country and our citizens
02:46:28safe. I start with the threat posed by terrorists and
02:46:31extremists, and I know one case in particular will be on the
02:46:35minds of many in this house today. It is now three months
02:46:39since murder of Anne Widdichom at her home in Devon. We
02:46:43continue to mourn her loss. On the 2nd of October, the
02:46:47suspect was charged with a terrorism offense, including
02:46:51preparing an act of terror against the leader of Reform UK, the
02:46:54honorable member for Clacton. I know that news that that news will have
02:46:58been deeply distressing for the honorable member, so may I say to him and
02:47:02to his family, they have my profoundest sympathies at what must be an
02:47:06awful time. As I have said before, attack on any one
02:47:10of us is attack on us all. I know other
02:47:14members, as well as people outside of this house, have recently been
02:47:18contacted by the police in connection with this
02:47:20case. To all of those affected, may I offer the
02:47:24same sympathies and solidarity as I do to the honorable member for
02:47:27Clacton. Mr. Speaker, at times like these, we must stand
02:47:31together as one house. For those who serve, politics
02:47:35is a calling. Robust debate and criticism are part
02:47:39of this job. Threats, abuse and violence are
02:47:43not. Today, as on so many other days, we remember
02:47:47Ann Widdickham, Sir David Amis and Joe Cox, three
02:47:50beloved colleagues and three champions of our
02:47:53democracy. We owe it to them, and everyone who believes
02:47:57in fair and open country to ensure those who serve
02:48:01at all levels receive the protection they deserve.
02:48:05We must first ensure that every opportunity was taken in this particular case
02:48:09to stop. this attacker, the independent office of police conduct
02:48:13is investigating the response to attempted break-in at the honorable
02:48:16members home last year. I've asked them to conduct this
02:48:20investigation both thoroughly and swiftly, and we expect it to conclude
02:48:24early next year. I would caution everyone not to
02:48:27preempt that investigation. Regardless the outcome of
02:48:31that investigation, it is clear there is insufficient protection for
02:48:35those who serve. I can therefore announce today that I will
02:48:39expand, with immediate effect police support to political
02:48:43figures who are not currently members of parliament. This
02:48:46will include former members of parliament, pears and party
02:48:50spokes people, giving
02:48:52them access to named police officer as well as help with wider
02:48:56security measures. But we must go further, Mr.
02:48:59Speaker, so today I also announce an independent
02:49:03root and branch review the protective security provided by
02:49:07the state to those in public life. This review will be
02:49:11led by Sir Stephen Lovegrove, the former national security
02:49:14advisor, and it will examine protective security from every
02:49:18angle, including physical threats, online risks and the
02:49:22dangers posed within our more polarized society. It will
02:49:26hear directly from ministers, members of parliament and other high
02:49:29profile people in public life, and it will report within six
02:49:33months. It will compliment Sir Robert Buckland's ongoing review into the
02:49:37killing of Sir David Amos, Mr. because this is rightly an
02:49:41independent review, but my commitment is that his findings
02:49:44must and will lead to tangible change, and that the
02:49:48state's resources will be rebalanced to protect those people
02:49:52and places that need it most. Mr. Speaker, the terrorist
02:49:56threat is not ranged only at those who serve in public life.
02:50:00In recent days, we marked the first anniversary the terror attack at the
02:50:04Heaton Park Synagogue. On that awful day in October of
02:50:07last year as our Jewish community.
02:50:13Doby lost their
02:50:15and Adrien lives and three others were seriously injured. What happened
02:50:19that day must be fully understood, so as requested by the
02:50:23coroner, I can today announce a public inquiry into the deaths of Mr.
02:50:27Cravits and Mr. Dolby. This will ensure that all evidence can be
02:50:31heard, including any sensitive national security material that could not
02:50:34otherwise be fully heard in the coroner's
02:50:37court. Tragically, Park was just one of
02:50:41series of attacks on our Jewish community. In the year since
02:50:45they have included the stabbing of two Jewish men in Golder's Green North
02:50:49London with a trial now set for March 2027. A
02:50:53failed attack on the Israeli embassy for which the attacker was last week
02:50:57jailed for 20 years a
02:50:59sp of arsen attacks across North London and last month, just
02:51:03hours before Yom Kipur began, foiled but potentially leat
02:51:07on the Jewish community in Manchester. In this case, two
02:51:11men, both Iranian nationals, have now been charged with terrorism
02:51:15offenses. I paid tribute to the police and the security
02:51:18services for what was a long-running investigation, conducted with
02:51:22their customary professionalism and skill. Faced with
02:51:26opposed to our Jewish community, we have increased funding to the police by
02:51:30additional 250 million pounds to boost police
02:51:34presence in key Jewish areas and to tackle antisemitism on
02:51:38our streets, but I "now we cannot simply build higher
02:51:41walls around our Jewish community and expect them to live in
02:51:45fear, so we must root out the evil of antisemitism wherever it
02:51:49looks in society, and this government is..." committed to that
02:51:53effort, tackling antisemitism wherever it is found, be
02:51:57it online, in our schools and universities, in our public
02:52:00services or on our streets. the
02:52:04threat post to our Jewish community shows us how the lines are
02:52:08increasingly blurring between extremism and state
02:52:11threats. we know the Iranian state is targeting our
02:52:15Jewish community. earlier this year, the Islamic movement of
02:52:18companions the right or the IMCR claimed responsibility for
02:52:22the arsen attacks in North London. We know that members of Iran's
02:52:26Islamic Revolutionary guard core, the IRGC, were behind
02:52:30that group and most certainly directed its other attacks across
02:52:34Europe. This speaks to a wider trend. States like
02:52:38Iran are using proxies to conduct hostile activity here in
02:52:42Britain. They pay criminals or exploit naive
02:52:45volunteers, attacking our country and its citizens, while
02:52:49maintaining an air of plausible deniability. "It is a
02:52:53braking threat, but it is one that we are alert to and will not
02:52:57tolerate fast track the National Security State Threats Act through
02:53:01Parliament. This created stronger powers and tougher punishment to
02:53:05deal with state-back threats to domestic security, and under these
02:53:09new powers we have designated both the IMCR
02:53:12and the IRGC. This brings us to the recent
02:53:16events at RAF (RAF Fairford). As the prime minister has
02:53:20said, our assessment is that it is highly likely to have been
02:53:23coordinated by known individual based in Iran and
02:53:27almost certainly directed by Iran's IRGC. The
02:53:31foreign secretary has today summoned the Iranian ambassador, he wiran
02:53:35of course. As the invasion of Ukraine enters its fifth winter, the
02:53:39Kremlin continues to lash out at European countries.
02:53:42Together with the EU, we attributed attack on Poland's energy grid last
02:53:46December to Russia, which could have caused hy.
02:53:50Similarly, we are acting against the threat. on our shores last
02:53:54month, a British man was charged under the National Security Act over
02:53:57alleged contact with Russia's military intelligence
02:54:00agency, and in recent days a Royal Navy sailor,
02:54:04accused of spying on behalf of Russia, has been charged under the same
02:54:08act. We remain vigilant to the threats posed by
02:54:11China too. Mi5 recently warned universities and
02:54:15academics to cut ties with the China General Technology
02:54:19Research Institute. This group had been funded. research in the
02:54:23UK with the primary purpose of improving China's
02:54:26espionage operations. Those who continue to work with
02:54:30this group will face criminal charges for aiding foreign
02:54:34state and lengthy prison sentences as
02:54:37result. Mr. Speaker, the threats we face today are complex
02:54:41and often interconnected. They target communities and
02:54:44citizens, the critical infrastructure that we depend on, and the
02:54:48institutions and individuals that make up our democracy.
02:54:52Our response to this growing threat is rightly
02:54:55multi-faceted. We are tackling extremism in our
02:54:58communities and in the online world. In protecting what
02:55:02matters, our social cohesion plan, we set out range of
02:55:06measures to tackle this threat, including banning those who seek to come to
02:55:09this country and spread hatred, and committing to publishing annual
02:55:13state of extremism report which will identify the threats we
02:55:17face and crucially equip frontline professionals to counter
02:55:21it. We are: also adapting to the changing nature the violent threat
02:55:25that we face. following the horrors of Southport, we have taken action to
02:55:28curb the threat posed by individuals fixated on
02:55:32violence. this is including strengthening the handling of repeat,
02:55:35prevent refer referrals and making it clear that
02:55:39referrals can be made to prevent without clearly identifiable
02:55:42ideology. the online safety act has also ensured thousands
02:55:46of services now have stronger age checks and safety
02:55:49measures. addressing the threat posed by States make no
02:55:53mistake, our police and security services are on permanent
02:55:57watch. Since 2023, more than 23 people have been
02:56:01charged under the National Security Act, leading to five convictions
02:56:05and totaling more than 48 years imprisonment so far,
02:56:08including 18 years for two men convicted of spying for
02:56:12China. We have imposed more than 4,00 sanctions linked to
02:56:16Russia and Iran, and we have placed both on the enhanced
02:56:20tier the foreign influence registrations. which means anyone
02:56:24conducting activity on their behalf must register it or
02:56:27face the prospect of prison, but more is
02:56:31required. as I have noted already, the national security state
02:56:35threats act has given us powerful new tools to tackle state
02:56:38threats. We are also building a specialist mission in counter terror
02:56:42policing to disrupt straight threat state threats and tightening
02:56:45security around military bases. Of course,
02:56:49resilience is about more than our physical defenses. We are
02:56:53also establishing a national center for information defense to
02:56:56tackle disinformation from states. Our cyber security and
02:57:00resilience bill will protect everyday services by strengthening national
02:57:04defenses. against cyber attacks and we will go further with our
02:57:08upcoming national security bill and give intelligence agencies
02:57:11and police stronger powers to bear down on
02:57:15cyber criminals. let me also say, mr. speaker, to the
02:57:18public, if you are ever worried about someone you know, tell a
02:57:22teacher, doctor or someone you trust. institutions like
02:57:26Prevent exist to stop people from following a dark
02:57:29path from which there may be no return. if ever you see
02:57:33something suspicious, report it immediately to the
02:57:37police or relevant authority and to businesses
02:57:40in increasingly online world, consider the cyber threat that
02:57:44you face and strengthen your defenses. Finally, Mr.
02:57:48Speaker, to those responsible for some part of an critical
02:57:51infrastructure, let me say we will work with you. The
02:57:55National Protective Security Authority and the National Cyber Security
02:57:58Center stand ready to help. We can defeat those who
02:58:02mean us harm, but we are strongest. when we act
02:58:06together, Mr. Speaker, a more dangerous world we are
02:58:09faced by threats from without and within that target our
02:58:13democracy and our way of life. In response, we are
02:58:17adapting and strengthening our defenses. As ever, I
02:58:21commend the work the police and our security services who
02:58:25labor in silence to keep us safe, and I'm sure the whole
02:58:28house joins me in offering thanks to them for that vital life-saving
02:58:32work. This government is taking. action in support of that
02:58:36effort, but I know there is more that we must do, as I've set out in this
02:58:40statement, to protect this country, to protect our citizens and
02:58:44to protect our democracy. I hope the whole house can join
02:58:47together in that vital work, which is so much greater than any of
02:58:51our differences, because I know that those of us who choose to
02:58:55serve all share a belief, we will never be defeated by
02:58:59those who mean us harm. Mr. Speaker, with my thanks to you for allowing me to
02:59:03run a little longer than would... be the case, I commend this statement to the
02:59:07house. shadow home secretary,
02:59:10Chris,
02:59:12thank you, the home secretary for advance sight
02:59:16of her statement, the whole house supports the security services
02:59:20and the police for their work. I pay tribute to the brave
02:59:24men and women who serve our country in that
02:59:27way. On RF Fairford, firstly,
02:59:31seven suspects were arrested, one, a duel UK
02:59:35Iranian national, these men were all released quickly on
02:59:39bail, and senior US officials have expressed
02:59:42surprise about this. Can the home secretary tell the
02:59:46house if she thinks it was reasonable to release these men so
02:59:49quickly, and if she believes they pose any
02:59:52risk? Will the home secretary also tell the
02:59:55house, if the government was aware in advance of any
02:59:59threat to RAF Fairford?