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00:02:03back to Capital Talk.
00:02:05they were also given during the People's Party government. On one hand, there is a debate about
00:02:08creating new provinces in Pakistan, and Bilawal Bhutto Zardari Sahib is saying
00:02:12that the government's countdown has started. On the other hand,
00:02:15Jamaat-e-Islami has announced to block roads on
00:02:19August 7th. Listen to what Hafiz Naeem-ur-Rehman Sahib,
00:02:23Ameer Jamaat-e-Islami, is saying: "We are running a movement against inflation,
00:02:27When Imran Khan Sahib became Prime Minister, against these mafias, and against petroleum prices on August 7th."
00:02:30They will block all highways of Pakistan, Insha'Allah.
00:02:34Rana Sanaullah Sahib, Jamaat-e-Islami usually
00:02:37does not make such announcements, but now they are saying that on August 7th,
00:02:41they will block all highways of Pakistan.
00:02:45So, what about this announcement?
00:02:49Yes, Jamaat-e-Islami sometimes makes such announcements
00:02:54that easy. Politically, but does not act upon them. So, in your opinion,
00:02:57they have made this announcement, but on August 7th, they will not act upon it.
00:03:01Okay, but along with them,
00:03:04there is an organization in Pakistan, All Pakistan Goods Transport
00:03:08Alliance. Its president, Malik Shahzad Awan Sahib, has also
00:03:12made an announcement. Listen to that too: "Due to the wrong policies
00:03:15of the federal government, the decision of the federal government
00:03:19killers of buttons and the deal of to change diesel and petrol prices daily,
00:03:23let's make them the increase in withholding tax and toll tax, and the non-implementation of
00:03:26agreements made by the federation, Punjab, and Sindh,
00:03:30the All Pakistan Goods Transport Alliance,
00:03:33present in the alliance, unanimously announces a country-wide strike
00:03:37from Saturday, August 8th." Rana Sahib,
00:03:41now on August 7th, Jamaat-e-Islami,
00:03:44and on August 8th, transporters. What
00:03:47is going on?
00:03:49I
00:03:51think that this Goods Association should
00:03:55engage the concerned people and provincial governments,
00:03:59and sit with them to resolve their issues
00:04:03as much as possible. Some of their complaints
00:04:06can be resolved, and they are
00:04:08genuinely justified. Okay.
00:04:12Plam Shah Sahiba, please tell me,
00:04:16do you support Jamaat-e-Islami's
00:04:19call to block roads on August 7th?
00:04:23No, look, I don't know if
00:04:25Jamaat-e-Islami will even be able to do it. So far, I have not seen
00:04:29any significant results from their
00:04:33announcements. But anyway, this is a problem
00:04:37that people have big objections to the daily formula.
00:04:40And today, the prices of oil have fallen globally.
00:04:43There has been a significant decrease. So, this daily
00:04:47thing is obviously speculation, and anyone can do what they want.
00:04:51Who changes prices every day? Therefore,
00:04:54there is truth in what they say. The Prime Minister should consider this.
00:04:58But it is better if we talk about bigger
00:05:02issues. These are the issues that your every TV
00:05:05channel is now conducting a survey and trying to present
00:05:09a public opinion. But the thing is
00:05:12that there is no one to show. As Bappi Sahib was saying
00:05:16that no one from the People's Party will present this resolution there,
00:05:20but there are other people in the assembly.
00:05:24Someone else should present it. But today, you saw
00:05:27that across the divide, I also heard the statement of Asad
00:05:31Umar Sahib, who said that every Sindhi will fight for this,
00:05:35no one will agree to this. Therefore, you cannot
00:05:38sit here and impose on the sentiments
00:05:41of another province and their land,
00:05:45which is the land of Pakistan, that you will take a knife and cut them up.
00:05:49So, we should talk about this, who will extinguish the fire
00:05:53that will ignite there as a result?
00:05:57Okay, Bappi Sahib, what do you say about
00:06:00Jamaat-e-Islami's call to block roads
00:06:02on August 7th?
00:06:05Amir Sahib, this is not my topic. Obviously, I am not their spokesperson.
00:06:08This is uncharted territory, but let me tell you one thing, yes, Jamaat-e-Islami.
00:06:21One, to be insensitive to any suffering of the people,
00:06:24that is, not to empathize with them, what is the suffering of the people?
00:06:28And if there is any political engagement, which a state should do as a mother,
00:06:32not to do that. So, if there is poverty or inflation or oil
00:06:36prices are rising daily, businesses are closing,
00:06:40farmers are being ruined, it doesn't matter.
00:06:42And if their engagement is needed somewhere, that there are issues in Kashmir,
00:06:46political government should be involved, Shehbaz Sharif Sahib should do something for the issues of Balochistan,
00:06:50in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, you should talk to Suhail Afridi.
00:06:53So, here the law and order situation that is developing
00:06:57in Punjab, where there are issues of inflation, issues of wheat,
00:07:01they don't feel insensitive that we should handle it,
00:07:05because they think that perhaps things will get worse with their handling.
00:07:09Look, when you have not taken the mandate of the people,
00:07:13everything seems easy. And then you start looking at one direction
00:07:16for the solution to every problem, that when a signal comes from there,
00:07:20then we will see, otherwise they will handle it themselves. If you look at the background of Mohsin Naqvi Sahib's statement,
00:07:24I am not his spokesperson, but one thing is clear that I feel that perhaps now
00:07:28the rulers are tired of carrying their excess baggage.
00:07:31That is, they brought them, but they proved to be so incompetent
00:07:34that they understand that the time has come.
00:07:38He is also involved himself.
00:07:51What does this mean by rulers, that Bappi Sahib feels
00:07:55that someone is tired of carrying your burden,
00:07:59so they want to unload it now, and Mohsin Naqvi will also be
00:08:02included in the next setup? And
00:08:05Bappi Sahib's sympathy for them
00:08:09is indeed admirable.
00:08:20They go in some other direction. Yes, the point you made has also been noted by
00:08:24some other people. So, Bappi Sahib, I will talk to
00:08:27you more about this, that your answers today
00:08:31are very admirable. After a break,
00:11:34Just
00:11:34think.
00:11:39Where were you? You came to hand after a long time. Yes, money
00:11:43was used here too. I used influence. Whatever I did,
00:11:46it was validated by the Supreme Court
00:11:50itself. Only two percent of the votes were found correct.
00:11:53Nothing is known about 98 percent.
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00:16:08Welcome to Capital Talk. And Abbas Bappi Sahib,
00:16:11this interpretation or explanation you gave of Mohsin Naqvi Sahib's statement,
00:16:15some people might conclude
00:16:19that you are indirectly supporting Mohsin Naqvi Sahib.
00:16:23Is this true? No, no.
00:16:26No, no.
00:16:30No such person who is representing someone else, at least a Tehreek-e-Insaf
00:16:34person, Mir Sahib, cannot support him. We are
00:16:37the people who have taken a direct hit. All I am saying is
00:16:41that the crack that has developed in their ranks
00:16:44is due to some kind of problem that has made
00:16:48things worse. Whatever happens, we cannot be part of this system.
00:16:51Our fight and our ideology are clear
00:16:55to everyone, where we started the war and where we were going.
00:16:59Today, on August 5th, we proved that we stand in resistance and
00:17:03we will remain in resistance. The main thing to see is
00:17:07that the story of being on the same page is now going to be ruined for them too,
00:17:11which didn't work for us. Now it's not working for them either.
00:17:14And if you look at the statements of the last week, the strongest statement is not
00:17:18Mohsin Naqvi Sahib's statement, the strongest statement was given by Bilawal Bhutto Zardari,
00:17:22that this is the product of generation after generation of Form 47.
00:17:26This is not my statement, and Rana Sahib's and Khawaja Asif's statement
00:17:30is that if you want to find the root of corruption, look towards the People's Party.
00:17:33This is God's system. When someone has to be exposed, when someone
00:17:37has to come out, then automatically such characters will emerge
00:17:41that they will not listen to each other. At least I don't see their story going forward now.
00:17:45Palosha Shah Sahiba, please tell me,
00:17:48President Zardari became president with the votes of the N League.
00:17:52Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif became Prime Minister with the votes
00:17:55of the People's Party. So, these differences that are going on now,
00:17:59this fight that is going on, many people think that
00:18:02this is just a temporary phase and will end
00:18:05in five or ten days.
00:18:09Look, only time will tell if the matter will end or
00:18:12where it will go. But anyway, the reasons
00:18:15behind this matter, the reasons why things have come
00:18:19to this point, are still there. And now
00:18:23it is not always possible to find a way back from everywhere
00:18:26and to find a way back. It is not always
00:18:31we also have to consider people. Okay, now President Zardari Sahib
00:18:35has received a summary for the appointment of some High Court judges.
00:18:39He has not signed it yet. If he doesn't sign it for another 10-15 days,
00:18:43then automatically, constitutionally, that summary
00:18:46will be approved by the Prime Minister. So, should we assume
00:18:50that the President is also angry? Look, I haven't
00:18:54spoken to the President about this, but if he has the right
00:18:58not to sign, then it is his right to use that right. But I want
00:19:02to tell you, Annas Bappi Sahib, that whether our matter is made
00:19:05or broken, even if it is broken,
00:19:09they will get nothing out of it. Okay,
00:19:12they will still be where they are. We might also get somewhere
00:19:16near them, but they won't benefit from this.
00:19:19What do you mean by somewhere near? Jail?
00:19:22If this one page ends and
00:19:26some calamity befalls us, then it will be somewhere,
00:19:29right? Everyone will be scattered, but they will still be there. So, what's
00:19:32the point? Okay, Rana Sahib, this discussion,
00:19:36many people are now...
00:19:38But my question to you, because you are also a lawyer,
00:19:41is that President Zardari Sahib has not yet signed the summary
00:19:45for the appointment of High Court judges.
00:19:48He was in Karachi for quite some days. Tonight, he is returning to Islamabad.
00:19:51What do you think, will he sign it after returning,
00:19:55or will this matter
00:19:59fall victim to the differences between the People's Party and the N League?
00:20:01گا
00:20:04I think President Zardari Sahib will not let this matter
00:20:08go to such a constitutional
00:20:11discretion. And
00:20:14in this matter, whatever
00:20:18path of reconciliation emerges, he will
00:20:21sign it accordingly. But I also want to share
00:20:25this point that was being discussed that now
00:20:29you see the dire situation of PTI
00:20:33that Bappi Sahib is saying that their matter is also going to be ruined,
00:20:36just like ours was ruined.
00:20:40Okay. So, just like yours was ruined, ours will be ruined now.
00:20:44But yours will not be made again. Keep
00:20:48that in mind too. Okay.
00:20:57that even if our matter is ruined, that is, even if the N League and People's Party's matter is ruined, you will still get nothing.
00:21:00ملنا
00:21:03I agree, there is no other opinion on this, and we probably don't
00:21:07want to be on the same page again. Mir Sahib, the problem
00:21:11of this country, this so-called hybrid system
00:21:15that has now emerged from the alliance of the N League government and the People's Party,
00:21:18this is perhaps...
00:21:31If it has to happen, then any government should be on the same page with the people. If you become indifferent to
00:21:34the people and their sufferings and you say
00:21:37that with the powerful people, by walking on the same page,
00:21:41we will run the government, it becomes difficult. This thinking
00:21:44needs to be changed a bit. This one-page policy is very difficult to implement
00:21:48in all four provinces on the basis of equality, not just in Islamabad.
00:21:52Okay, now I want to say one thing at the end. Thank you very
00:21:56much to all three guests, Rana Sanaullah Sahib, Palusha Khan
00:21:59Sahiba, and Onbaz Bappi Sahib. But I would like you to play
00:22:03a small video at the end that a journalist
00:22:06in Lahore was badly beaten up today.
00:22:10The police beat him badly, and
00:22:12from behind, the journalists were also saying, "Brother, he is not a lawyer,
00:22:16he is not a lawyer, he is a journalist, don't hit him." But the policemen
00:22:20kept hitting him, kept hitting him, kept hitting
00:22:23him, and finally, they locked him in the prisoner
00:22:26van. And after locking him up,
00:22:30when they were satisfied that they had given him a good beating,
00:22:34they released him after a long time. So,
00:22:37perhaps it was a message that was given to the journalists,
00:22:41and the message has been received. But such
00:22:44messages were also given during the PTI government.
00:22:48Before that, they were also given during the PML-N government,
00:22:52and before that,
00:22:55But we have seen one thing,
00:22:59in historical context, I am talking about history,
00:23:03and this evidence is available with
00:23:06me in the form of a video. It is also available from the time
00:23:10when Yusuf Raza Gilani Sahib was Prime Minister. Then when Nawaz Sharif Sahib became Prime Minister,
00:23:13it is also available from that time.
00:23:17it is also available from that time, that when the police
00:23:20start hitting journalists openly on the streets like this,
00:23:23they drag them, they file cases against them,
00:23:27they put them in jails, and they try to intimidate
00:23:31them by making new laws, it means that
00:23:34the government has become weak and will not last
00:23:38long. This is what I said about the Punjab government,
00:23:42but what I want to tell you in historical context, if you are intelligent,
00:23:46you will understand. Allow me to leave. Allah Hafiz.
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