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00:01:09that some grievances
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00:01:49Pakistan.
00:01:59Now, look.
00:03:39Interior Minister Muhammad Naqvi's statement that the system
00:03:42has deteriorated and needs a system reset, which has sparked a debate
00:03:46in the country. Last night, he further clarified
00:03:49this statement and elaborated on it.
00:03:52He says that Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif
00:03:56will complete his term, remaining for 5 years.
00:04:00He further added that he meant that
00:04:03if the Prime Minister was working with the dedication he is,
00:04:07and found the system working properly, things would have been much better. Hear it from him first.
00:04:10I still believe that if the Prime Minister had found
00:04:13a properly functioning system, he would have advanced this country
00:04:17much faster, and people have and will continue to have a great
00:04:21desire that by no means are my relations with him strained. The government's
00:04:25future will definitely be for five years. Shehbaz Sahib
00:04:28will serve as Prime Minister for five years.
00:05:43You must remember his statement. What did he say in it? That the Prime
00:05:46Minister, who works 12 to 16 hours a day,
00:05:49and despite that, even if he works for 10 years, he will still
00:05:53fail because the system is failing. Now what has
00:05:57he said? He has simplified it a bit further. He has made it easy
00:06:00by saying that the Prime Minister will complete his five-year term, but the system
00:06:04is failing. So, in other words, the point that
00:06:08Mr. Naqvi made is the same point, just stated differently.
00:06:12But I think that the statement given by Mohsin Naqvi
00:06:16was followed by a meeting with the Prime Minister, and it is being heard
00:06:22were addressed and after that, the situation has improved.
00:06:25But was this the kind of debate that has been going on for the past week,
00:06:29in which there were many kinds of speculations,
00:06:33whether it was about the tearing of the same page
00:06:36or other things? I think it would have been better if Mohsin Naqvi
00:06:39Sahib had been asked a question
00:06:43regarding the failure of the system. He keeps talking about it, but he doesn't
00:06:46point out which system is failing. The system
00:06:50has various institutions. The system also includes
00:06:53your economy. The system also includes your law and order
00:06:57situation. These are all things. It would have
00:07:01been better if, instead of repeatedly posing riddles,
00:07:05he had said that this institution is not performing
00:07:08well, and it needs to be
00:07:23This would have been better. Mohsin Naqvi Sahib should have come and explained
00:07:27this. I think that Mohsin Naqvi Sahib's habit of posing riddles
00:07:31and sometimes giving a clean chit to the government, sometimes saying
00:07:35that this system has failed, is not at all a good
00:07:38omen, I believe. The current government
00:07:47is on the same page, and there is no such thing, but still,
00:07:51Mohsin Naqvi Sahib's repeated statements, even the
00:07:54clarification, in which he further complicated the matter, I believe,
00:07:58and made it more complex.
00:08:02that in this regard, a proper discussion should be held by the Prime Minister
00:08:05and the entire cabinet. And I remember Rana Sanaullah
00:08:09Sahib's statement, in which he clearly pointed out the system,
00:08:13how he covered 30 years' journey in 3 years
00:08:17and reached this point. So I believe that it is indeed a failure
00:08:21of the system that always people who come through illegal
00:08:24means, like technocrats, and then reach the highest
00:08:28level, blaming them in this way,
00:08:32all these things regarding the government and spreading confession
00:08:35among themselves, it would be better to sit down once
00:08:39and discuss in the cabinet what the failures in the system are,
00:08:43which institutions are at fault. Now, news has started coming out
00:08:47that a complete performance report is being given for the ministries.
00:08:50It will be mentioned in it. But even better than that
00:08:53would be to see that Mohsin Naqvi Sahib, if you look
00:08:57at his record for the past three to four years, he has come
00:09:01as a caretaker Chief Minister after holding elections,
00:09:05even though Article 224 of the Constitution
00:09:08clearly states that no one can participate in immediate elections.
00:09:42The system is failing. The system is from your local government
00:09:46to every ministry here. It's part of the system. So
00:09:49specifically, no one is telling us, not even Mohsin Naqvi,
00:09:53he's still saying the same thing that the Prime Minister will complete his five years,
00:09:57but the system has failed. So it would be better
00:10:01that such an important ministry
00:10:05that he is holding, and the situation in Pakistan,
00:10:09whether it's related to terrorism or overall, regarding Mohsin Naqvi Sahib,
00:10:14I think that Mohsin Naqvi Sahib is creating more confusion with such
00:10:17statements. It would be better if he either clearly states
00:10:21that such and such institution has failed and needs reforms.
00:10:55trying to highlight what else he wants to do
00:10:58in it?
00:11:00The first thing is that this is a damage control exercise. He also knows
00:11:04that he didn't just say this in the heat of the moment. It's been a
00:11:08week, since last Thursday, if you look at today,
00:11:11his statement was well-planned. The way he spoke,
00:11:14especially about the administrative units or
00:11:18new provinces, he spoke about that.
00:11:21In that, there is
00:11:55who will be the Prime Minister? Is he himself a candidate for this? There are many
00:11:59such rumors, but what he is saying
00:12:02about the system, as Fakhar was also saying, he should answer some
00:12:06questions. What does he think? Will the collapse in the system
00:12:09be fixed just by creating new provinces or new administrative
00:12:12units? We have already debated
00:12:16this, that there should be administrative units, especially with Pakistan's
00:12:19growing population. And then, obviously, it's a.
00:12:23but
00:13:25what he is saying,
00:13:28it seems like this debate about administrative
00:13:31units and that thing is being given
00:13:35less time. I believe, and I said this before,
00:13:38that there should definitely be a debate on this, and it should be
00:13:42transparently discussed. It should happen in provincial assemblies,
00:13:46it should happen in Parliament. If there are any reservations, because now there is
00:13:49news that if Karachi and Gwadar are made federal territories.
00:13:53Now such
00:14:18political parties themselves should decide, but what Mohsin Naqvi Sahib is saying and this is not a personal
00:14:22thing, it's not just about him, but if
00:16:37they are within your framework. You
00:16:41empower them. Just like you, for example,
00:16:44made the 26th and 27th amendments.
00:16:47don't tamper with other things.
00:16:51This will cause harm. The situation Pakistan
00:16:55is currently going through, starting a new debate
00:16:58will cause harm, not benefit. If
00:17:01a decision has been made,
00:17:05then we will see its results.
00:17:37because in this country, accountability from Ayub Khan till today has only
00:17:41been done on political grounds. In true sense,
00:17:44there has been no accountability in this country.
00:17:48And if all of them had completed their five-year terms, then that debate
00:17:52about two families ruling would have ended.
00:17:54Because one family was brought
00:17:58in to stand against the other family. If a process was going on,
00:18:01then perhaps by now, just like the Pakistan People's Party after 2008, in 2013,
00:18:05they were wiped out in Punjab. From 2013 to
00:18:092018, the League suffered a loss, even though
00:18:12their popularity was still there. So the method,
00:18:16the system is this. That system was
00:18:19damaged. The democratic system we talk about,
00:18:23in that, a Prime Minister and a Parliament should complete their five-year
00:18:27term. A Prime Minister
00:18:29should. We are giving examples of 2018 and
00:18:332013, that the President has
00:18:37his own
00:19:37let's analyze and comment on Mr. Mohsin Naqvi's entire statement.
00:19:39Madam Sheikh, first of
00:19:42all, I would like to ask Mazhar Bhai,
00:19:46what harm can debate cause in democratic societies?
00:19:49Every issue should be debated. Is our judiciary
00:19:53independent today? It should be debated.
00:19:56You can talk about it,
00:19:58please talk about it, no, you asked me, that's why I'm saying,
00:20:02yes, you can answer it later. So the first thing is that
00:20:06democratic societies are built on debate,
00:20:10on questions, on performance.
00:20:13In Britain, in ten years, five or six or six or seven
00:20:17prime ministers came and went. What
00:20:20happened there? Did the apocalypse happen there? Why should Shehbaz Sharif complete
00:20:24his term if his performance is not good? Why
00:20:28should we tolerate him if his performance is not
00:20:31good? So that's the first thing. Secondly, I would like to share
00:20:35a couplet by Mohsin Naqvi Sahib:
00:20:42"The madness of wisdom, whatever your charming beauty desires,
00:20:45whatever your charming beauty desires."
00:20:49Regarding your
00:21:02latest statement and the latest sayings,
00:21:06you are giving excuses
00:21:08about your attendance. My attendance is 70 percent.
00:21:12Don't spoil my relations with the Prime Minister. Get a third-party audit of my
00:21:15performance. What do we need your attendance for? What
00:21:19is your performance in the cabinet?
00:21:23Have you come to this position by your own strength?
00:21:26What is your performance as Chairman
00:21:29PCB? What is our ranking in One Day? What is our
00:21:33team's ranking in Tests? What is our ranking in T20? What
00:21:37is your ranking as Interior Minister?
00:21:40Has the country gone to hell? And
00:21:44where were the things that needed to be fixed? Where are those two or three people you
00:21:48had to catch, and it was to be known how 100 billion dollars went out of the country?
00:21:52You told us that. Did you ever openly
00:21:55sit down and inform us in detail against
00:21:58the wave of terrorism, that this should be discussed,
00:22:02these things should be done, these should be done? What is your
00:22:06performance? So at that time, you would have
00:22:09been sitting at home running your business. If it was about performance,
00:22:12you would never have reached these positions. And if
00:22:15it was about performance, you would never have stayed in these positions
00:22:18till now. And Mohsin Naqvi
00:22:22Sahib, the second thing you said was that the system
00:22:26is ruined but still existing, and the current system is not going anywhere.
00:22:30Meaning the doctor is saying
00:22:33to the patient that you are seriously ill
00:22:37but I won't treat you. Why
00:22:40brother? It means we have malaria, and we haven't been
00:22:44bitten by a mosquito. Why brother? What
00:22:47is it? Which system are you talking about?
00:22:55Did Allama Iqbal Sahib see a wrong dream? The system for which millions of our people made sacrifices, are you talking about
00:22:58that system? And Shehbaz Sharif will remain Prime Minister
00:23:01for five years. The government was not charged. If Shehbaz Sharif
00:23:05had found a good system, he would have rapidly taken the country forward.
00:23:09It seems you haven't read any books in your life, Mohsin Naqvi
00:23:12Sahib. Look at Pakistan before 1988, and now
00:23:16look at the Pakistan of these two dynastic monarchies
00:23:20we are stuck in after 1988. These are our diseases,
00:23:24these are our problems, with whom you want to maintain good relations,
00:23:27whom you want to complete five years. You are the foster
00:23:31son of one, and you don't want to spoil relations with the other. Then don't fight
00:23:35for Pakistan. We were living, crying, laughing, living.
00:23:38You told us that it is ruined, it is spoiled.
00:23:42Do something. The Prime Minister only does firefighting. So do something,
00:23:46otherwise cockroaches will gather and overturn everything. You told us,
00:23:50so stand on your own feet. If the country exists, everything exists, right?
00:23:54Are we supposed to salute the picture of Shehbaz Sharif Sahib or Asif Ali Zardari Sahib?
00:23:58Why do we want to impose them when their performance is not good?
00:24:01Miftah Ismail Sahib, one last thing. Miftah Ismail Sahib was just
00:24:05telling yesterday that in this country,
00:24:0840 trillion rupees of debt was taken in four years,
00:24:11and 45 trillion rupees of debt was
00:24:15taken in 75 years. 40 trillion in four years,
00:24:1845 trillion in 75 years. So you want to stay with this system, you don't
00:24:22want to spoil relations with them. So the point is
00:24:24that we don't act on what we say.
00:24:28If we say something, we don't stand by it. And if
00:24:31because no one loves the country.
00:24:34He is retracting
00:24:36his first statement, because he is saying that
00:24:40he is saying that the system is still bad. He has actually
00:24:44praised the Prime Minister's performance. Then how did
00:24:47the system go bad if the minister...
00:25:20they are coming into power, these two dynastic monarchies are the ones who destroyed the system.
00:25:23They are the ones who destroyed Pakistan. He is standing with them.
00:25:26Okay, let's bring another option into the broader picture.
00:25:30Last point: the system will remain the same, change the lower provinces.
00:25:34Create new provinces. Will anyone let you create them? No, they won't let
00:25:38you. So the point is that you said well
00:25:41that this system is ruined, create new administrative units,
00:25:45and now you are saying that these two
00:25:48parties, both want to create new administrative units.
00:25:51This is correct. Look at my performance as well,
00:25:55I am also fine. Then who is the system? Tell us who is the system
00:25:58that has gone bad. It's you.
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