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00:00:16The medical
00:00:19for the current system. board constituted for the exhumation of Mirja, a young trader from Karachi, has replaced all its members
00:00:22except Dr. Sama Syed. The eight-member board has been reduced to
00:00:26five members. The order for the medical board was issued. While talking to Geo News,
00:00:30Mir Raza Hasan's father said that when they were ready for the exhumation,
00:00:33the medical board was changed in the dark of night. "We
00:00:39So I think will not allow the medical board to conduct the exhumation." He claimed that influential people are involved in the murder of Mir Raza.
00:00:43The family's lawyer, Jibran Nasir, said that they would go to court
00:00:46regarding the medical board in the morning. Mir Raza's family is not satisfied
00:00:50with the change of medical
00:00:55Danyal, for the details. board members. Mir Raza's
00:00:59second post-mortem will be conducted today on court order. Geo News
00:01:03has obtained important pictures related to Mir Raza Ali's case.
00:01:07and it should be done openly and transparently Mir Raza's shirt has a bullet mark and threads are coming out
00:01:10of the shirt. The post-mortem report stated that the bullet entered the chest
00:01:13and exited from the back. The picture also shows bruise-like marks on the feet.
00:01:17There are also clear signs of torture on the ribs on the right side.
00:01:21ہیں۔
00:01:26Iran and Oman have agreed on a new route for Hormuz.
00:01:56of Pakistan's most important institution, the Pakistan Cricket Board,
00:01:58is another good
00:02:04There is no possibility of an alliance between the Pakistan People's Party and PTI, nor is the government in any danger,
00:02:08said Minister of State for Interior, Dalal Chaudhry, during a discussion
00:02:12on Geo News program 'Aaj Shahzeb Khanzada Ke Saath'. He said that after two and a half
00:02:15years, the countdown for the government begins, but this time it will complete its five years
00:02:19and the alliance will also continue in the same way. The Pakistan People's Party
00:02:23realizes this, and will realize it even more. It is also in the interest of Pakistan
00:02:27and the system that the current alliance continues
00:02:30in the same way.
00:02:35Sindh Chief Minister Murad Ali Shah says that there is a procedure in the constitution
00:02:39for creating new provinces. According to the constitution, if a provincial assembly
00:02:42passes a resolution to divide the province with a two-thirds majority,
00:02:46then it is possible. The Sindh provincial assembly has unanimously opposed
00:02:50the new province many times. If there is ever any change
00:02:53in this stance, which does not seem to be happening, then it can be discussed.
00:02:56ہے۔
00:03:11Prime Minister completes his five years,
00:04:02he has now made explicitly. But I think
00:04:10that some grievances
00:04:14and after that, things
00:04:32if a new system comes, a decision has been made. thing is that when we talk about democratic societies
00:05:12Headlines: We will give you news from Karachi, where a motorcyclist
00:05:16has been killed after being hit by a car near Qayyumabad Chowrangi. We will know more from
00:05:19Geo News correspondent Danyal Syed, who is with us. Danyal, please
00:05:23tell us. Yes, exactly.
00:05:26This accident happened a little while ago near Karachiabad
00:05:29Chowrangi. According to rescue officials, an unknown
00:05:33fast-moving vehicle hit a motorcyclist,
00:05:37who died on the spot. The deceased pedestrian
00:05:41was approximately 30 to 35 years old.
00:05:44According to rescue officials, the identity of the deceased person has not yet been confirmed,
00:05:48but the body of the deceased person
00:05:51has been shifted to Jinnah Hospital for legal formalities. The motorcycle
00:05:55used by the deceased has been shifted to Baloch Colony police station
00:05:59person responsible for the accident,
00:06:02the unknown driver, is underway.
00:06:05Thank you very much,
00:06:08لئے
00:06:13For more news, keep watching Geo News.
00:06:39Interior Minister Mohsin Naqvi's statement that the system
00:06:42is broken and needs a reset has sparked a debate
00:06:46in the country. Last night, he further
00:06:50clarified this statement and expanded upon it. He says
00:06:54that Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif will complete his term,
00:06:57will remain for five years, and further added that he meant
00:07:01that if the Prime Minister had a functional system to work with
00:07:04given how diligently he works, things would be much better. Hear it from him first,
00:07:08what did he say? I still believe that if the Prime Minister
00:07:13had a proper system, he would have taken this country
00:07:16forward much faster. And people have a strong desire, and will continue
00:07:20to have it, that somehow my relations with him are bad, the government's
00:07:24future is secure, it will complete five years. Shehbaz Sharif
00:07:27will remain Prime Minister for five years. They can do whatever they want with my statement,
00:07:31they can extract whatever they want, but Inshallah
00:07:34Ta'ala, the Prime Minister will complete his full five years. And you
00:07:38know that this statement or clarification came in this atmosphere
00:07:43where opinions are divided. In the new system
00:07:46of Pakistan, structural changes in provinces, local governance,
00:07:50a big debate has erupted. In such a situation, especially
00:07:54the government has not come forward openly, it is reacting slowly.
00:07:57I am Alina Farooq Sheikh, and the question here is what
00:08:01should be inferred from the clarification or statement given by the Interior Minister.
00:08:05For this entire discussion, we are joined by Irshad Bhatti Sahib. Bhatti Sahib, Fakhar Durrani Sahib,
00:08:09Mazhar Sahib and Mahmal Sarfaraz are also with us. Fakhar, we would like
00:08:13to know your opinion first of all.
00:08:16We used to do that, didn't we,
00:08:19interpret the poetry, what does the poet want to say in this verse?
00:08:23Mohsin Naqvi Sahib has further clarified regarding the five
00:08:27years, that the Prime Minister will complete his term and the system.
00:08:30And he also said what the purpose of his statement
00:08:34was.
00:08:37Thank you very much, Alina. In this poem, the poet has further complicated
00:08:40the matter. You remember his first
00:08:44statement, what did he say in it? That the Prime Minister,
00:08:48who works 12 to 16 hours a day,
00:08:51even if he works for 10 years, he will still fail
00:08:55because the system is a failure. Now what has he said? He has simplified
00:08:59it a bit further by saying that the Prime Minister will complete
00:09:03five years, but the system is a failure. So in
00:09:06other words, the point that Naqvi Sahib made
00:09:10indirectly is the same point
00:09:14that the statement Mohsin Naqvi Sahib gave, even though he
00:09:18met with the Prime Minister regarding this, and it is being heard
00:09:23have been resolved,
00:09:27have improved. But did this debate
00:09:30of the past week, which involved many kinds
00:09:34of speculations, whether about the "same page" tearing apart
00:09:37or other things, I think it would have been better
00:09:41if Mohsin Naqvi Sahib
00:09:45had been asked to specifically identify which system is failing, because he keeps talking
00:09:48about system failure, but he doesn't pinpoint which system is failing.
00:09:52The system includes various institutions, it includes your economy,
00:09:56it includes your law and order situation.
00:09:59All these things are there. It would have been better
00:10:03than repeatedly making riddles and doing things, it would have been better
00:10:07to say this institution is not performing, it needs
00:10:10reforms,
00:10:12this work is not done well in that institution, it needs reforms. What happened to the law
00:10:16and order situation in Pakistan in the last three years?
00:10:20What reforms did we make in it? This
00:10:24would have been better if Mohsin Naqvi Sahib had come forward
00:10:27and explained these things. I think Mohsin Naqvi Sahib's way of
00:10:31speaking in riddles and sometimes giving a clean chit to the government,
00:10:35sometimes saying that the system has failed, this is not
00:10:39at all a good and auspicious sign
00:10:44Although it is also being said that
00:10:47the establishment and the government are on the same page and there is no
00:10:51such thing, but still such statements from Mohsin Naqvi Sahib
00:10:55repeatedly, even the clarification, in that also he has further
00:10:58complicated the matter, I think, and made it complex.
00:11:04in this regard, the Prime Minister and the entire cabinet
00:11:07should discuss it, and I remember Rana Sanaullah Sahib's statement
00:11:11where he perfectly pointed out regarding the system
00:11:15that those who covered a 30-year journey in three years
00:11:19to reach this point, I think this is indeed a failure
00:11:23of the system that always such people come through a backdoor
00:11:27in the form of technocrats and then, to reach the highest level,
00:11:30to put the blame like this on the entire government
00:11:34and to spread confusion among themselves,
00:11:38it would be better if this was discussed
00:11:41once in the cabinet as to what
00:11:45is the failure in the system, which institutions are involved. Now news
00:11:49has also started coming that a complete proforma regarding the performance
00:11:53of ministries is being
00:11:55prepared, but even better than that would be to see
00:11:59Mohsin Naqvi Sahib. If you look at the last three to four years,
00:12:03the caretaker setup, he came after conducting elections as Chief Minister,
00:12:07whereas Article 224 of the Constitution clearly states
00:12:10that no one can participate in an immediate
00:12:13election. Despite that, under the same system, he not
00:12:17only became the chairman
00:12:21but then he also contested Senate elections and got elected.
00:12:34Such paths have been given in our system itself, and if
00:12:38such paths, and especially regarding institutions,
00:12:42he would have specifically told which systems are failing. The system
00:12:46includes everything from a local government to every ministry
00:12:50here. So he is not specifically telling
00:12:53even now, Mohsin Naqvi Sahib is still saying the same thing that the Prime Minister
00:12:57will complete five years, but the system has failed.
00:13:01So it would be better that such a ministry and such an important
00:13:04ministry he has taken charge of,
00:13:08and the situation in Pakistan, whether it is related to terrorism or overall,
00:13:12looking at Mohsin Naqvi Sahib,
00:13:15is it fine? So I think that Mohsin Naqvi Sahib is creating more confusion
00:13:19with such statements. It would be better if he clearly states that such
00:13:23and such an institution has failed.
00:13:55He is trying to make his point more convincing. What does he want to
00:13:59highlight in it?
00:14:02No, the first thing is that this is a damage control exercise.
00:14:05He also knows, there is no such thing that he said this in a fit
00:14:09of rhetoric. It has been a week, Alina,
00:14:13from last Thursday until today, he
00:14:16said what he said with great pre-planning, the way he spoke,
00:14:20and especially about administrative units or
00:14:23new provinces, there is no
00:14:27doubt in our mind that he just said something
00:14:30and then later he is saying, no, no,
00:14:34I am retracting it. There is no such thing. This is
00:14:38a way, because there was criticism about it, where did this
00:14:41talk come from, who said this, why was this said? The debate
00:14:45that started because of it, perhaps that's why he wants to say this, because you know
00:14:49that there are many speculations, will the government go
00:14:52or will it stay? What
00:14:57who will be the Prime Minister in it? Is he himself a candidate
00:15:01for it? Such things are obviously rumors.
00:15:04But Alina, what he is saying, that the system is still collapsed, Fakhar
00:15:08was also talking about it just now. He should answer some things. What
00:15:12does he think, is the collapse in the system only
00:15:15going to be fixed by creating new provinces or new administrative
00:15:19units? Look, we have already discussed that administrative units
00:15:22should be formed, given Pakistan's growing population, these things
00:15:26are necessary for good governance. But the reason for the system's collapse
00:15:30is not just that there are fewer provinces or
00:15:33fewer administrative units. Obviously, in this collapse,
00:16:37little attention is being given. I think, I said this before, that there should be a complete
00:16:41debate on this,
00:16:45in provincial assemblies and in parliament.
00:16:48If there are any reservations, because look, news is also coming, Alina, that
00:16:52if Karachi and Gwadar are made federal territories. Now, when
00:16:55something like this comes up, how can you take such a step
00:16:59without political consensus? Or even if Rana Sanaullah Sahib
00:17:03said what he said, he spoke constitutionally, didn't he? He said that it should be done according to the constitution.
00:17:06In the constitution, in Article 394,
00:17:09it is clearly stated how it should be done. So whatever
00:17:13needs to be done, I believe that political parties should decide it themselves
00:17:17within the confines of the constitution. But what Mohsin Naqvi Sahib
00:17:21is saying, and this is not a personal matter, Alina,
00:17:25it's not just about him. But if you look otherwise, how can
00:17:28any person who is not affiliated with any political party
00:17:32come to such an important position? And this
00:17:35problem, that when we talk about
00:18:07Look, the first thing is that Naqvi Sahib has clarified
00:18:11in a way. If a Prime Minister completes
00:18:14his five years, then this is a success
00:18:18of the system.
00:18:21How did the system fail? No Prime Minister in this country has ever completed five years.
00:18:25This will be the first Prime Minister to complete
00:18:29five years. And why were five years not completed? Because no
00:18:32Prime Minister was allowed to complete five years.
00:18:36They were not allowed. They were removed.
00:18:40If you look at the list, from Benazir Bhutto to Nawaz
00:18:44Sharif and Imran Khan, if any
00:18:49then Shehbaz Sharif will set a record.
00:18:51He will be the first
00:18:54Prime Minister. Leave aside how he was elected,
00:18:58but he will be the first Prime Minister to complete five years. So then
00:19:01how did the system fail? It means there was improvement
00:19:05in the system. And that's the whole
00:19:08debate, that Prime Ministers are not allowed to complete five years in this country.
00:19:12Conspiracies begin. As for his
00:19:16other point, which is being debated a lot. Look, there is a very easy
00:19:20solution. Why are you creating such
00:19:23an atmosphere that causes tension?
00:19:26You should make cities metropolitan corporations, make Karachi
00:19:30a metropolitan city. Empower other cities.
00:19:33Empower the local bodies, which are already
00:19:37in your framework. Empower them.
00:19:41Just as you have amended the 26th and 27th
00:19:44times, similarly,
00:19:48do not interfere with other
00:19:50things. This will cause harm.
00:19:54At this time, the situation Pakistan is going through.
00:19:57Starting a new debate will cause harm, not benefit.
00:20:01If
00:20:06کے
00:20:37should happen. Because in this country, accountability, from Ayub Khan
00:20:41to today, has only been done on political grounds.
00:20:44In true sense, there has been no accountability in this country.
00:20:47So you and if these five.
00:22:20that the Prime Minister will complete five years, does this statement
00:22:23give such an impression? Look, when
00:22:27the Interior Minister says this, he shouldn't be saying it. He said, "He says it's a five-year
00:22:31assembly, elected for five years, he will remain for five years."
00:22:34Okay, Bhatti Sahib,
00:22:38Bhatti Sahib, how do you analyze and comment on all of Mohsin Naqvi Sahib's
00:22:41statements? Madam Sheikh, first
00:22:45of all, I would like to ask Mazhar Bhai what harm
00:22:49can come from debate in democratic societies?
00:22:53Every matter should be debated. Is our
00:22:56judiciary independent today?
00:23:09So the first thing is that democratic societies are built on debate,
00:23:12on questions, on performance.
00:23:16In Britain, in 10 years, five or six Prime Ministers
00:23:20came and went. What happened there? Did the world
00:23:23come to an end there? Why should Shehbaz Sharif complete his term
00:23:27if his performance is not good? Why should we keep him imposed
00:23:30on us if his performance is not good?
00:23:34So that's the first thing. Secondly, I would like to share a couplet
00:23:38for Mohsin Naqvi Sahib's consideration:
00:23:41"Wisdom became madness, and madness became wisdom,
00:23:45whatever your charm may create."
00:23:48Whatever your
00:23:50It caused pain and sorrow to hear your latest statement, your latest golden words, your justifications.
00:24:04You couldn't even stand on your feet for a few days.
00:24:08Just a few days.
00:24:12Look at my attendance, it's 70 percent. Don't spoil my relations
00:24:16with the Prime Minister. Get a third-party audit of my performance.
00:24:20What do we care about your attendance in the cabinet? What
00:24:23is your performance? You came to this position
00:24:27by your own efforts? What is your performance as
00:24:31Chairman PCB? What is our team's ranking in One-Day?
00:24:34What is our ranking in Test? What is our ranking in T20?
00:24:38What is your ranking as Interior Minister? Has the country
00:24:41gone to hell? And
00:24:44where is that SHO who was supposed to fix the situation in Balochistan?
00:24:48Where are those two or three people
00:24:52you were supposed to catch, and it was supposed to be revealed how 100 billion dollars were laundered out of the country?
00:24:56You yourself said this. The wave of terrorism
00:24:59that is there, have you ever openly sat down
00:25:03and informed us in detail that this should be discussed,
00:25:06these things should be done, these should be done? What is your performance?
00:25:10So you would be sitting at home
00:25:13running your business. If it were about performance,
00:25:16you would never have reached these positions. And if it were
00:25:20about performance, you would never have remained in these positions until now.
00:25:23And Mohsin Naqvi Sahib,
00:25:27the second thing you said is that the system will remain even if it's destroyed,
00:25:31and the current system is not going anywhere.
00:25:33Meaning the doctor
00:25:37is telling the patient that you are a very serious
00:25:41patient, but I won't even treat you. Why
00:25:44is that? It means we have malaria, and a mosquito
00:25:48didn't even bite us. Why? What
00:25:51is it? Which system did Quaid-e-Azam Sahib
00:25:54make wrong? You are talking about Pakistan. Did Allama Iqbal Sahib
00:25:58dream wrong? You are talking about the sacrifices of our millions of people.
00:26:02And Shehbaz Sharif will remain
00:26:06Prime Minister for five years. The government has not been charged. If Shehbaz
00:26:09Sharif had a good system, he would have taken the country forward faster.
00:26:13It seems you haven't read any book in your life, Mohsin
00:26:17Naqvi Sahib. Look at Pakistan before 1988, and
00:26:21now, these two dynasties we are stuck
00:26:24with. Look at their Pakistan after 1988. These are our
00:26:27diseases, these are our problems, with whom you want to maintain
00:26:31good relations, whom you want to complete five years.
00:26:34You are the adopted son of one, and you don't want to spoil relations
00:26:38with the other. Then don't fight Pakistan's case. We were
00:26:41living, crying, laughing, living. You told us that
00:26:45it is destroyed, broken. Do something, the Prime Minister just
00:26:49does firefighting. So do something, otherwise cockroaches will gather and
00:26:53overturn everything. You said that, so stand on your feet.
00:26:56If there is a country, then there is everything, isn't there? Do we have to salute
00:27:00Shehbaz Sharif Sahib's picture or Asif Ali Zardari Sahib's?
00:27:02Why do we want to impose them when their performance
00:27:06is not good? Miftah Ismail Sahib, last point, Miftah Ismail Sahib
00:27:09was just telling yesterday that in this
00:27:13country, in four years, 40 thousand billion debt was taken,
00:27:16and in 75 years, 45 thousand
00:27:20billion debt was taken. In four years, 40 thousand billion, in 75 years,
00:27:2345 thousand billion. So you want to stay with this system,
00:27:27you don't want to spoil relations with them. So the point
00:27:29is, this is our problem, we don't act on what
00:27:33we say. If we say it, we don't stand by it. And because
00:27:37no one loves the country, sir.
00:27:41Why do you think he is deviating from his first statement? Because
00:27:45he is saying that I am saying that the system is still broken.
00:27:48In fact, he praised the Prime Minister's performance.
00:27:51So then where did the system go wrong
00:27:55if he is praising the Prime Minister? He is saying it's not the Prime Minister's
00:27:58fault. He is saying it's not the Prime Minister's fault. You heard the whole statement, you told me.
00:28:03Tell me, why did you feel that? No, why did you
00:28:06feel that he is deviating from his statement? Then it's Mohsin Naqvi Sahib's problem,
00:28:10at least he should apologize to them. He might be feeling it's his problem. Sir,
00:28:14tell me why you think he is deviating from his first statement?
00:28:18Please clarify this. Yes, I will. PML-N and PPP
00:28:21have been coming to power for the last 30-35 years by changing faces.
00:28:25These two dynastic monarchies are the ones who destroyed
00:28:29the system. They are the ones who destroyed Pakistan. With them, the system will remain the same.
00:28:41Change the provinces below, create new provinces. Will anyone let you create them?
00:28:45No one will let you create them. So the point
00:28:48is that you made a good point that this system is destroyed,
00:28:52create new administrative units. And now you are saying that these
00:28:56two parties want to create new administrative units.
00:29:00That's right. Look at my performance,
00:29:03I'm also fine. So then who is the system,
00:29:07Mr. System, who has gone bad, tell us. You are
00:29:11the people who caused all the destruction and ruin. And I think there is some ambiguity
00:29:15in the definitions of the system. Perhaps I got a different impression from what other analysts said,
00:29:19and your understanding of the system is perhaps a little different.
00:29:23Does Bhatti Sahib want to add something? He asked this question, and
00:29:26it was absolutely correct, that if there is a debate, what's wrong with that?
00:29:30There's absolutely nothing wrong with debating.
00:29:33Then you made another point, that in other democratic countries,
00:29:36does it happen that an Interior Minister
00:29:39who is not affiliated with any party?
00:29:43Does it happen in any democratic country that any Finance Minister
00:29:47is not affiliated with any party? Okay, sir, do Prime Ministers
00:29:51who go to other countries go the way
00:29:54they go here? They would morally
00:29:57resign if the party gives them a vote of no
00:30:00confidence. They resign. Do other
00:30:04democratic countries have this, that parties are formed
00:30:08and broken in this manner? Governments are formed and broken. So I
00:30:12think we have a unique system.
00:30:14And when you are saying these things to the Interior Minister,
00:30:17and you are saying these things, then this is also a question
00:30:21between us, isn't it, that how did Shehbaz Sharif come? How
00:30:25was he brought? Are they brought like this in democratic societies? So the real
00:30:31and all that.