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00:00:19Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif chaired
00:00:19the people. the first meeting of the monitoring committee related to Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.
00:00:23According to the agenda, future course of action and relief for the people of
00:00:26Khyber Pakhtunkhwa was also discussed.
00:01:21the reason is
00:01:27or nominated? One thing is
00:01:49project Pakistan as the villain that
00:03:41The provincial government has been rendered dysfunctional. It
00:03:44ceases to exist
00:03:46at this
00:03:48time. I was waiting for big people to come here to capture the Governor's House,
00:03:52but so far no one has scaled the wall, knocked on the door, or come.
00:03:56October 11.
00:04:07when it passes all the threshold
00:04:33matters, but despite
00:04:46were telling us one thing very
00:04:58civil Now you must be wondering
00:05:02what story, what script, and what
00:05:05characters are being talked about, so let me present the evidence before
00:05:09you. Just listen to what
00:05:13Shehbaz Sharif used to say about Governor Rule
00:05:16until a few years ago. The Punjab government was
00:05:19put under Governor
00:05:22Rule. Mr. Zardari,
00:05:26the robbery begins from your palace. I am a servant
00:05:29of the people. I serve
00:05:32This
00:05:35was back when President Zardari had invoked
00:05:39Article 245 of Shehbaz Sharif's government in Punjab.
00:06:21Under
00:06:22the army
00:06:24has also been given
00:06:35powers and this Governor's rule and
00:06:39emergency, we were informed about it by the federal
00:06:42minister Dr. Tariq Fazli Sahib many days ago and at
00:06:46that time our friends of Tehreek-e-Insaf used to say
00:06:50that if you have the courage, impose Governor's rule. Tariq Fazli Sahib was saying
00:06:54that no, emergency can be imposed. They used to say neither emergency nor
00:06:58Governor's rule. Listen to what Tariq Fazli Chaudhry Sahib had said at that time. The
00:07:02situation in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa regarding
00:07:04terrorism and lawlessness
00:07:08its reasons will become
00:07:12the cause of emergency. Long
00:07:15march or political movement is not the
00:07:19reason. So now the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf
00:07:23members of parliament will remain in the assemblies
00:07:26after the imposition of emergency and Governor's rule,
00:07:30or will they not? We will discuss this.
00:07:33We have with us Barrister Aqeel Malik Sahib, Minister
00:07:37of State for Law and Justice, Shafqat Abbas Awan Sahib,
00:07:41who is an advocate and member
00:09:12it should also be in the joint sitting and its proper timelines have been given
00:09:16and through those timelines
00:09:20of timelines and then finally there are two extensions,
00:09:24the first phase and the last phase and in this then the maximum period is six
00:09:28months. The period is six months, until Governor's rule, which
00:09:31is in force under Article 234, so it
00:09:35can last for a maximum of six months. Okay, Mr. Shafqat
00:09:38Abbas Awan Sahib, you are also a legal expert and our
00:09:42minister is also a legal expert,
00:09:45but my question to you is a little different. Our
00:09:49programs of last week, your party's
00:09:52senior people, who are MNAs like you,
00:09:58clearly. Listen to what they were saying. One thing is absolutely clear.
00:10:02We have decided that if they impose Governor's rule
00:10:06or impose emergency or disqualify
00:10:11persons, then we will
00:10:25our people are humiliated daily and then we play assembly, assembly. We will not
00:10:29play assembly, assembly anymore. So Shafqat Sahib,
00:10:32Governor's rule has been imposed and emergency has also been imposed. Suhail Afridi Sahib
00:10:36has also been arrested. Are you resigning
00:10:46October 11 is a dark
00:10:50day for Pakistan's democracy, whatever kind of democracy
00:10:54it was. As for what you said
00:10:56about resignations, that was absolutely individual's opinion, but
00:11:00I don't think anything like that is going to happen yet. First of all, such a
00:11:04big decision can only be made by Imran Khan Sahib. No one else can.
00:11:07Okay, when Khan Sahib does it, it won't take a minute and everyone
00:11:11will resign, but this is pending. This matter
00:11:15of resignations is not worthy of consideration at all yet, and if this decision is
00:11:19made, it will be made by Khan Sahib himself. Okay,
00:11:21Barrister Aqeel Malik Sahib,
00:11:25how do you feel that until a few years ago, your party, the Muslim League
00:11:29N, used to oppose Governor's rule?
00:11:32Now today you are supporting it, and Tehreek-e-Insaf,
00:11:36which used to support it earlier, is now opposing it. Don't you think
00:11:40that this is the same story, but the characters change?
00:11:44No, I will not agree with this, and
00:11:46that the previous Governor's rule probably had some political
00:11:50considerations. This Governor's rule, this emergency
00:11:53that has been imposed, is solely
00:11:57from a counter-terrorism lens. It was viewed from that perspective.
00:12:01Safety and security, the protection of life and property, where
00:12:05the issues related to terrorism should have been advanced, which
00:12:09the government there did not advance. This story is very old,
00:12:13but the kind of misguided
00:12:16matter that was in the mind of this government,
00:12:20the PTI government, there were absolutely no political considerations,
00:12:24nor should there be. In this regard, the protection of life and
00:12:27property, the counter-terrorism efforts,
00:12:31we needed to do a better job,
00:12:34or that government needed to. Now the advisory
00:12:37council will do it, now the development
00:12:41council there will do it, and in this regard, the powers
00:12:45are now with the Governor Sahib. So, as you saw in his
00:12:49press conference today, it can
00:12:51clearly be said that the mess of the last 13
00:12:55years, in terms of counter-terrorism,
00:12:58which could not progress, the mess
00:13:02spread by PTI, due to their
00:13:05unwitting support for
00:13:10and their government's handling of all these matters,
00:13:14then Amir Sahib, tell me, what option did we
00:13:17have left? If we had completely
00:13:21abandoned it, then it is the constitutional responsibility of the federation, so
00:13:25the federation fulfilled that constitutional responsibility. Although this is a highly
00:13:28undesirable act. But absolutely as a matter of last
00:13:31resort, I said this in your program last time as well. Tell me, if they say that Governor's rule
00:13:35is undemocratic, it is according to them, unconstitutional,
00:13:39but it is mentioned in the constitution. But you just asked them a question.
00:13:42You said, are you resigning? So at that time,
00:13:46when Imran Khan Sahib and his party dissolved the assemblies of
00:13:50KP and Punjab, was that not an undemocratic
00:13:53act?
00:14:30On the matter of war against terrorism, if the government of
00:14:33Suhail Afridi Sahib had been on the same page as the federal government,
00:14:37this situation would not have arisen. They were coming to Islamabad through
00:14:41a long march to release Imran Khan, but they themselves got arrested.
00:14:45Sir, if my brother is talking about political considerations,
00:14:48saying that there are no political considerations, then until today,
00:14:52all these nocturnal attacks on democracy
00:14:55and these impositions of Governor's rule, if there are any
00:14:59political considerations, then these are the most. Okay, if I had said it
00:15:03or they had said it, they wouldn't have believed it. This is Maulana Fazlur Rehman Sahib who came in, may Allah
00:15:07bring him, and we as a party were to be vindicated
00:15:10and they were to be blamed that you imposed
00:15:14this emergency and Governor's rule without any reason.
00:15:17He explained in great detail that I had also talked
00:15:20to the Prime Minister Sahib and I had also talked to Suhail Afridi
00:15:26and I had told both parties that now give me this authority. How
00:15:30long will the government continue? How long will the opposition continue? Where
00:15:34should we be on board on the terrorism issue? What things
00:15:37need to be settled? I will do this now and both parties gave me authority and
00:15:41told me to go ahead. But then
00:15:45what happened? Then he gets a call at 10:30 in the morning that, "Sorry,
00:15:48we are imposing Governor's rule." Well, the talk is that the
00:15:52real issue is terrorism. So in this Governor's rule
00:15:56that has been imposed, an area
00:16:00development council has also been formed, which includes FATA and
00:16:03the affected areas where emergency has been imposed
00:16:07in 12 of them. It includes Dera Ismail Khan, Bannu,
00:16:10Lakki Marwat, Tank, Bajaur, Mohmand,
00:16:14Khyber, Kurram Agency, Orakzai, North Waziristan, South
00:16:17Waziristan Upper and South Waziristan Lower. All these
00:16:21areas are included in it. So
00:16:24for the area representative
00:16:26of this development
00:16:28council , Mr. Mehmood Jan Babar Sahib
00:16:32has been made the advisor for information of this ARDC. Let's talk to him for
00:16:49of the Development Council, as its
00:16:52spokesperson, will tell us about this system of 12
00:16:56tribal elders, will it be run by them
00:16:59? And if it is run by tribal elders, how will they be elected
00:17:05that
00:17:07this council is an empowered council
00:17:11and in it there are
00:17:14quite sensible technocrats,
00:17:17a number of them have been brought here
00:17:20and senior Additional Chief Secretary Yahya Akhunzada Sahib
00:17:24will head this council. An Additional IG of Police will also
00:17:28be in it, and the other
00:17:32people are experts from various fields
00:17:35and they are also bureaucrats and legal experts.
00:17:39And all of them have to do one thing: to select
00:17:43tribal elders and the elders of the other four
00:17:47districts from there.
00:17:50Is this council temporary or permanent? What
00:17:54will be its tenure?
00:17:57Yes, look, today clarity has been given to it. Mohsin Naqvi
00:18:01Sahib also came to Peshawar and he met with
00:18:05all the experts of this council and its
00:18:10that some people are trying to spread rumors
00:18:14that this council will be for a short time
00:18:17and then it will be abolished. So he has given a clear-cut
00:18:21message and he has given this clarity
00:18:24that no, this council will remain until it achieves
00:18:28its objectives, and for this,
00:18:32all legal requirements will be fulfilled by legal experts
00:18:35and the federal experts
00:18:39will fulfill their legislative requirements in this regard.
00:18:43So there are no signs or possibilities
00:18:47of this council ending soon. Its objectives
00:18:51are to solve all the problems of the people and to eradicate terrorism from its
00:18:54roots and to eliminate the ecosystem of terrorism.
00:18:58So until
00:19:07from this conversation, I don't think this Governor's rule is for six months. This is
00:19:11long-term. I would like to clarify this to you
00:19:14and your viewers a little bit,
00:19:18within the constitution. I want to clearly explain
00:19:21this. In this,
00:19:24Article 234 refers to Governor's rule,
00:19:28which can be applied for a maximum of six months. Where
00:19:31Article 232 is concerned, there is no time limit
00:19:35set. Okay, and
00:19:38232 talks about emergency. That
00:19:41is a proclamation of emergency. Internal disturbance, external
00:19:44aggression, war, etcetera, and so
00:19:48on. Both of these have been applied together. Now, here you see,
00:19:51okay, and I completely agree with the ARDC council
00:19:55that the local elders there should be taken on board
00:19:59and they should be members of it. The
00:20:02concerned local stakeholders should look after all the matters
00:20:06in it. Their
00:21:35Muslim League N was also included in it, Peoples Party was also included in it,
00:21:39ANP was also included in it, Jamiat was also included in it, Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf was also
00:21:43included in it, and all the elders there were also included.
00:21:46Some things were decided there based on consensus. And those
00:21:50things were sent to the Prime Minister Sahib with a declaration that the
00:21:54entire province, all the politicians, are talking about peace jirga,
00:21:58and all the elders are agreed on this. Consider it. Today you
00:22:01see the elders. Today you realized that local people are needed
00:22:05to solve these issues. So what were we saying? We were also saying
00:22:09that until you take the assembly there, the politicians
00:22:13there, the elders there into confidence,
00:22:16this cannot be ended. You didn't listen to us at all.
00:22:20Today you have also formed a council. Today you are endorsing them. Is
00:22:23this a correct action then? No, this is not a correct action. When the political government was saying
00:22:27to do this, why didn't you do it
00:22:35province was standing on one thing? Muslim League N was also
00:22:39included in it. Their Mr. Muqam
00:22:42was not their Mr. Muqam, brother, because I was present
00:22:46there. His brother, so tell me his brother's name.
00:23:03You threw those talks into the dustbin. Today, when negotiations were happening, we said that the peace jirga
00:23:07that happened, its consideration, its consideration
00:23:10should be included in it. Because I was present in the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Assembly,
00:23:14the resolution that was passed said that this operation
00:23:18against terrorism
00:23:20would be led by KP Police and SIS,
00:23:23and if needed, assistance would be sought from federal
00:23:27agencies. The federal government was saying
00:23:31the federation, so if you had talked to them on this matter,
00:23:35it would have been no, there was talk,
00:23:38this
00:23:40is the difference and this is the point that we kept telling them, I think
00:23:44two or three times more than that, there was not much
00:23:48cooperation from their side, tell
00:23:50me, since PCM Suhail Afridi Sahib came, you
00:23:53have seen a 195% increase from 24 to 26.
00:23:57And when SEM Afridi Sahib comes,
00:24:01376
00:24:03terrorism incidents happen.
00:24:061150 martyrdoms happen,
00:24:09in which there are civilians and other people as well. Their
00:24:13only mode of operation has been, "We have to do a long march, we have to do political agitation."
00:24:17We are tired of saying that on counter- terrorism,
00:24:50in 1975, the government of Inayatullah Gandapur was overthrown
00:24:53and Governor's rule was imposed here. At
00:24:57that time too, the charge sheet was that there was terrorism in the province.
00:25:01Hayat Muhammad Khan Sherpao was killed in Peshawar University through terrorism.
00:25:04The situation is not good and Governor's rule was imposed.
00:25:08So it means this is a 50-year-old problem. No, the problem
00:25:12that has arisen with this in this era, from 2024 to 25,
00:25:16since Suhail Afridi Sahib came, we are tired of telling him, Mr.
00:30:32about it, he said that I had settled all
00:30:36that, Governor's rule has been imposed. I want
00:30:40to play a short clip of him for you, then I will ask a question. I contacted
00:30:43the Prime Minister Sahib and I told him that if he
00:30:47is now principledly ready to end the long march,
00:30:51then you should also settle with me that they
00:30:55will also meet and Imran Khan will also be brought
00:30:58for treatment. On this, he said that