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00:00:00tornadoes in their entirety to those affected in La Guaira. For her part, Corine
00:00:03Smith announced that she will join the staff of artists of Unidos por
00:00:07Venezuela, a charity concert, which will be held
00:00:10next August 16 in the city of Miami. In addition to the Creole,
00:00:14Alé, Chayan, Elena Rose, Piso 21, Olga
00:00:18the United Nations to do a study in Tañón and other artists will share the stage as part of the
00:00:21cause.
00:00:23The minors presented Movimiento Camina, a project that aims
00:00:27to provide support and hugs to those who need it most, after the
00:00:31events that occurred in our country last June 24. Likewise, the members of the
00:00:34group not only highlighted that
00:00:38they will continue to be there for the
00:00:40technology and everything affected, but also assured that little by little they will have to return to their
00:00:47embassies in Washington and New York, well that's superficial, only for what activities as part of their work and projects that they have been developing for years. They also invited
00:00:50with the two earthquakes, what their followers to continue supporting and joining the
00:00:55obviously we have tried, we have talked with cause.
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00:01:22In this way, we reach the end, Venezuela, thank you very much for your attention, happy night
00:01:26to all, happy rest, it will be until
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00:01:29Portugal to Spain and that is why what
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00:02:15We have Valensa May in the interpretation of the movie of with complex situations in is very alien to for Globo Visión and for
00:02:18us because she is the journey for everyone, we are all immigrants in head of the OCHA office in
00:02:22Venezuela, which is the Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs of the United
00:02:25Nations, uh
00:02:27be a representation based on what Vanessa, that representation you have and such
00:02:30difficult times in Venezuela has acquired an international dimension
00:02:33completely. What have they done, who has come, what can
00:02:36they do? Well, good afternoon, ambassador, thank you very much for the invitation
00:02:40to your program, to all
00:02:43paper, sometimes reality exceeds your audience, it is an
00:02:45precisely the OCHA office in honor to be here for me. Well, uh, the Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs of the United Nations was already in
00:02:49Venezuela. We have been here since
00:02:522019 and our function is basically to coordinate
00:02:56the humanitarian response in the country. We do not
00:03:00have... we have a humanitarian response plan that for
00:03:022026 included eight prioritized states in Venezuela, La
00:03:06Guaira, which was one of the states most affected by the two earthquakes that
00:03:09We continue talking with Vanessa May of occurred on June 24, is not part of the
00:03:13plan. But, well, we made an addendum to
00:03:16include La Guaira and other affected states within the
00:03:19response we are providing. So, let's say
00:03:23course the humanitarian component is important. Here what that the international support that has come has been in several phases and
00:03:27I think that the at several levels. What was done first was to respond with
00:03:31the structure, with the architecture
00:03:34does not exist, this will we already had, which we are talking
00:03:36be repeated and not only in Spain, it will about agencies, funds and United Nations programs, uh, let's say
00:03:39that they focus on humanitarian response through also implementing
00:03:43partners, international NGOs, national and
00:03:46local civil society organizations that in Venezuela are very
00:03:50strong organizations and with which we have worked all these
00:03:53years. But also, uh, organizations, uh, that are
00:03:57observers in the whole process like the Red Cross.
00:04:00The ICRC, the International Federation of the
00:04:04Red Cross, Doctors Without Borders and well, all
00:04:08know very well, ambassador, throughout the a series of organizations that
00:04:10with the migrations from Spain or Portugal in are present in the country, are active, there are others that have come because
00:04:13after commercial breaks we will return with her. they have a specific
00:04:15expertise. So, in the first, the first two weeks
00:04:19we focused on search and rescue actions. Around
00:04:2355, uh, specialized search and rescue
00:04:26teams from different countries came. Uh, well,
00:04:30I think it was public knowledge that the whole
00:04:34world rushed to
00:04:37respond to Venezuela as it should have been, and I think
00:04:41that, uh, that is something to highlight,
00:04:43that these teams were able to come and respond
00:04:46in a very quick way, uh, and well,
00:04:50also support the actions that obviously the communities started because communities
00:04:54always, in a disaster of this magnitude, are the first responders and the
00:04:57authorities with the capacity they had.
00:05:01You have had a long international experience, you have been in countries not
00:05:04only in the area but even in the Far East. That accumulated
00:05:08experience and also Latin American, which we are very proud of, from the sister
00:05:11Republic of Colombia. That experience you have acquired, you came with
00:05:15a project prior to the earthquake, I imagine that after the earthquakes
00:05:19and tremors it has another dimension, the offer you are making
00:05:23and the attention you have to give, right? Yes, well, as I was saying,
00:05:26we had, we have a humanitarian response plan for
00:05:292026 that focuses on these eight prioritized
00:05:32states in Venezuela, uh, well, some of
00:05:35them are Tachira, del Tamacuro,
00:05:38Zulia, uh, also the state
00:05:41Sucre. And well, other states, let's say,
00:05:45because we worked, it came in the original plan, state and
00:05:48now what has changed, so what has changed is that we work
00:05:52based on priorities, what are the needs of people and
00:05:56because obviously we cannot prioritize everything, there are limited
00:05:59resources, so with what happened
00:06:03we did was an addendum to the humanitarian response plan, an
00:06:06addendum that focuses on responding to 1.3 million
00:06:10people.
00:06:127 million people who were
00:06:16included in the humanitarian response plan, let's say, these are
00:06:19global figures and we are talking about assistance or response that is
00:06:23multisectoral, because a person eh has multiple
00:06:26needs, not only the need to have access to safe water, but
00:06:30also eh to have access to health, food
00:06:34security, eh, nutrition, so what we try to do is
00:06:37have an integrated response within the 1.3
00:06:41million people that is our
00:06:44target for the plan or for the
00:06:47earthquakes. 500,000 of these people
00:06:51were already included in the response plan, so we are talking about 700,000
00:06:55new people who have been identified who have needs, of course, for
00:06:58shelter because many lost everything with these two
00:07:01earthquakes. They lost their homes, they lost their belongings, so the
00:07:05component of
00:07:08accommodation is very important and obviously
00:07:11accompanied by the issue of health care, of the
00:07:14response, eh, the issue of mental health, for example, is a very
00:07:17important issue that I always like to emphasize,
00:07:21because sometimes when we are in the pure and hard emergency we
00:07:24forget the importance of being able to talk to people about how they
00:07:28feel, because of course an event like this generates trauma and psychological
00:07:31impact that lasts a lifetime. Now, to understand the
00:07:34situation a little better, the United Nations is a very complex
00:07:38organization with many offices, with many sections, eh, in the humanitarian
00:07:41part, we see that the next general assembly, a large part of the
00:07:45program is humanitarian. How do they manage to divert all that humanitarian
00:07:48attention and especially find resources with so many demands
00:07:52all over the world? Yes, well, that's a great question,
00:07:55because well, it's no secret that multilateralism, with
00:07:59the events that have happened in the world in recent years, has been
00:08:03eh in some way attacked,
00:08:06affected, eh, but let's say that what we see
00:08:09is that the member states of the United Nations continue to support because
00:08:13obviously it is about saving lives, it is precisely the humanitarian component.
00:08:16The United Nations, as you say, is a family that has many mandates,
00:08:20we have the human rights mandate, the political mandate, more than the
00:08:24political negotiation, but let's say, the
00:08:27economic mandate, the development mandate that is so important for countries,
00:08:30the development goals, but of
00:08:35must be emphasized is that humanitarians
00:08:39have a part of the process within countries,
00:08:42but we cannot be alone. This has to be accompanied also by development
00:08:46actions and investments in development also to
00:08:50get out of the state of need. So we do a part in what has to
00:08:54do with saving lives, but I think there it is key to
00:08:57be able to move on to the next step,
00:09:00Doctor Vanessa May. We are going to a few
00:09:04commercial breaks and we will be back to delve a little deeper into the action in Latin
00:09:07America. We will be
00:09:08right back.
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00:13:02We continue, we continue talking with Vanessa
00:13:05Mey, high representative of the United Nations, she represents
00:13:10Venezuela, of humanitarian assistance. When talking about humanitarian
00:13:14assistance, you said earlier that the United Nations has many
00:13:17dimensions, but today with so many problems of global warming, war, conflicts,
00:13:21earthquakes, fires like those in
00:13:25Europe, humanitarian assistance is increasingly important. In the case of Latin America,
00:13:28could there be the possibility of a joint action by all countries?
00:13:32Well, eh, it is always desired that member states eh,
00:13:36let's say, put their focus of attention where the needs are
00:13:40and of course in Latin America there are needs. Something to take into
00:13:43account is that there is a competition for resources unfortunately, because
00:13:46there is always a conflict or a natural
00:13:50phenomenon that has a media impact and the focus of attention goes
00:13:54to that. So. eh, if you remember when eh all the
00:13:57news was focused on what was happening in Gaza or what was happening in
00:14:01Ukraine and let's say that there the focus of attention in Latin America
00:14:05drops quite a bit. But I asked you because I see that the European Union does have joint plans, we are
00:14:09now seeing the fires in Spain and France, how there is a joint action
00:14:13of the 27 states that form the European Union. How interesting it would be if in Latin
00:14:16America there was, apart from the United Nations, when the United Nations under the
00:14:20umbrella of a regional organization that also proceeded
00:14:23jointly, no, yes. It would be the dream, the dream in
00:14:27Latin America, I think there have been attempts and well, you
00:14:33history, to have regional organizations
00:14:36very strong, European Union style, there was an Andean
00:14:39Parliament, there was a Mercosur Parliament, eh, but let's say
00:14:43that I think this would be a good time to rethink that, because Latin
00:14:46America, I think, has great potential because we not only
00:14:50receive official development assistance but we are also capable of
00:14:53sharing. Eh, many experiences we have
00:14:57gained, you mentioned the Andean Community of Nations, Mercosur is fine,
00:15:00Central American integration is fine,
00:15:03CELAC, which is the Community of Latin American and Caribbean States, it is appropriate to raise the
00:15:06issue of regional coordination with
00:15:09training, with education and above all immediate aid, where there is no
00:15:13all this bureaucracy when a group of assistance arrives as has happened in
00:15:16Venezuela, however, things have flowed very well here, no, with the United Nations, a lot of
00:15:20ease for these organizations to arrive here. How many United Nations
00:15:23organizations do you consider linked to the earthquake issue?
00:15:27Well, at this moment, eh, we have a tool where we can
00:15:30show in real time who is doing what and where,
00:15:34eh, among agencies, funds and programs, we are more or less
00:15:3715 eh Agencies, Funds and Programs of the United Nations, but we work
00:15:41with eh humanitarian partners, with
00:15:44agencies, with organizations that are implementers of the
00:15:47different programs, we are talking about
00:15:49around eh 50, between 50 and 60
00:15:53organizations that are attending only the emergency due to
00:15:57the due to the two earthquakes. And in the case of these organizations that
00:16:00sent more private and public delegations, was there coordination with that
00:16:04too? Yes, well, as I was
00:16:06saying, the first thing we did was activate the humanitarian architecture that
00:16:10we have, and in that architecture there are a number of organizations that
00:16:14are also specialized in the sectors, the sectors in which we
00:16:17serve, no, health, food security,
00:16:19education, and that are specialists and have been working in
00:16:23Venezuela for a long time, so they are articulated. There are new
00:16:27organizations that have arrived because they have a specific expertise,
00:16:32them, with the countries that finance them so that they integrate
00:16:36the response. What we have wanted above all is to strengthen the humanitarian
00:16:40architecture that already existed, avoiding duplication and obviously in
00:16:44articulation with the authorities, because what any
00:16:46eh, let's say, official development assistance wants is to strengthen national
00:16:50capacities, no, we do not
00:16:53intend to stay here forever, but the idea is that we can
00:16:57strengthen national capacities and that is why it is so important, so key to work
00:17:00with the authorities. Now there is also a necessary training, you have a long
00:17:04career in humanitarian assistance. How has your
00:17:08experience been as a Latin American in those countries of the Far East, for example? With
00:17:12so many crises that exist and that have happened permanently. Yes,
00:17:15let's say that each crisis is different, each
00:17:19crisis has very important
00:17:22lessons to learn, but I think what I
00:17:25always highlight in all these emergencies that I have
00:17:28had the opportunity to be in is the resilience of people. I think that is
00:17:32something that characterizes us or that characterizes human beings in general,
00:17:36the resilience of people. To be able to get out of the state of
00:17:39need by themselves, I think that has been fundamental
00:17:43and I see it in the case of Venezuela, how people
00:17:46poured in and continue to pour in en masse to support
00:17:50Venezuelans who need it most. All sectors are involved
00:17:54in this response, the private sector, eh, academia,
00:17:58I think that is fundamental. Now, there are some protocols that have
00:18:01been able to prove with the experience of the United Nations to follow concrete
00:18:05activities in this case of, for example,
00:18:08earthquakes or storms or fires. There are many protocols that have also been
00:18:12signed by countries, by the member states of the United Nations. Generally, what
00:18:15I see, ambassador, is that in the end, what is on
00:18:20everything that a country can be very prepared for,
00:18:23no. So each emergency is different. There are countries
00:18:27that, for example, in the region Chile, Mexico,
00:18:31Colombia itself, that are very prepared, but many times there are emergencies that
00:18:34overwhelm the capacity that necessarily require
00:18:38the support of other member states, of
00:18:41other, let's say, specialized agencies. You,
00:18:45I believe, also have the training aspect with the possibility of linking
00:18:49with universities and centers dedicated to civil
00:18:52protection and defense. Yes, I think that is fundamental, working with academia is
00:18:55fundamental because, eh, let's say we have so many lessons learned, and I am talking
00:18:59about the specific case of Venezuela with this situation,
00:19:04time will come when we need to sit down together, eh, all the
00:19:08institutions, the instances of civil society, and the authorities to see what
00:19:12the lessons learned are and how academia can, for example, eh,
00:19:15promote, eh, I don't know, specific training in terms
00:19:19of, eh, risk management, which is the term
00:19:22used now to address all the phases of the emergency, from preparation.
00:19:26Preparation is extremely important, and generally states
00:19:30do not allocate resources for issues of
00:19:32preparation, no, and how we are also going to the mitigation
00:19:36phase. The prevention
00:19:39phase, that is, I think that is fundamental to start talking about these
00:19:42issues. We continue talking with Vanesa May, head of the
00:19:46United Nations Office for Humanitarian Assistance in Venezuela,
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00:23:59the United Nations accredited in Venezuela, who for
00:24:037 years now have been very active in our
00:24:06country. Is that presence of your office
00:24:09also a requirement of the United Nations in any country in the world and
00:24:13in the face of any natural or technological disaster? Well, OCHA is present
00:24:17where there are humanitarian crises, no. Many times
00:24:20we are talking about crises generated by
00:24:23conflicts, but also by natural phenomena. We arrived in Venezuela in
00:24:262019, after well, after
00:24:30the situation that occurred in, well, you
00:24:33remember in Colombia with the Simón Bolívar bridge, because there was
00:24:37an inappropriate use of the term humanitarian aid, inappropriate.
00:24:41So, what we somehow established, eh, with
00:24:45obviously with the authorization of the authorities and the government,
00:24:48was to be able to establish the humanitarian architecture to support
00:24:52the needs of people, especially in terms of food
00:24:55security, nutrition, health, well, the most
00:24:59pressing needs. What connection do you have with the development
00:25:02goals, especially those linked to these areas and the issue of international
00:25:06humanitarian law, which also has to do with humanitarian protection?
00:25:09Well, humanitarian work cannot be separated from human
00:25:13rights and international humanitarian law. In fact, our
00:25:17work is governed by four fundamental principles:
00:25:20neutrality, impartiality, humanity and independence.
00:25:24That is important, neutrality, impartiality, it is very important, independence, no.
00:25:27Yes, that they are not linked to any type of doctrine,
00:25:31political regime, ideology, that is the important thing that gives a lot of certainty
00:25:35and a lot of moral authority, no, exactly, because
00:25:38we have to provide humanitarian aid without distinction, without
00:25:42political distinction as you say, without distinction of race, without distinction, and that
00:25:45is what makes humanitarian work successful, because we reach the
00:25:49largest number of people and of course, in this work
00:25:52we need to negotiate with all parties, I give you an example anywhere
00:25:56in the world, for example, if we need to access
00:25:59a marquis, he was coming, he was working there before coming to
00:26:02Venezuela, well, you have to negotiate with the rebel groups,
00:26:06you have to negotiate with the military, you have to negotiate with everyone,
00:26:10because what we focus on is the people, on reaching people, putting people,
00:26:14putting people at the center, an agreement
00:26:17for the functioning of each state that gives
00:26:20total immunity, not so that they can act with full freedom, yes,
00:26:24well, obviously freedom also comes with certain
00:26:28important obligations, but also privilege, of course, yes,
00:26:31yes, exactly,
00:26:36because the United Nations are made up of
00:26:39member states that sign these agreements and
00:26:43there they establish the conditions for having a presence, a United Nations operation
00:26:47in the countries. It is interesting when in our country we talk with high-ranking female
00:26:51officials of the United Nations because in New York
00:26:54the rumor is already circulating that for the first time since
00:26:571945 the first Secretary General of the United Nations will be the first
00:27:01female Secretary. A woman, in fact there are three representatives from Latin
00:27:05America, including former President Bachelet, it is possible that we will have a
00:27:08woman as Secretary General of the UN, and you have
00:27:12many specialists in the world in many areas, no, yes, I really
00:27:16hope that the next time, for the first time,
00:27:19we will have a female Secretary General and that she will be Latin American, it would be
00:27:23a pride for all women who, like me, have pursued careers for so many years
00:27:27in this organization, because well, the United Nations
00:27:30that we have been in for so many years. I think the advantage is that it is a very
00:27:34diverse organization and we have more and more people from all over the world. For example,
00:27:38among my priorities is that there should be more Venezuelans within the
00:27:41international system. Yes, all countries have the right to have
00:27:45international officials, as is the case in
00:27:47Chile, Uruguay, and Argentina, which have many United
00:27:51Nations officials. Venezuela needs to be more interested in participating with
00:27:54trained personnel also in these areas of security and
00:27:58defense and surely of civil protection there is much possibility, a lot
00:28:02and there is a lot of capacity in Venezuela, I have colleagues who are fantastic,
00:28:05here most of the colleagues who work in Ocha, who work in my
00:28:09organization are Venezuelans and they are truly
00:28:13incredible, I always promote them so that they can also go to other missions
00:28:17in the world, because they bring interesting and very
00:28:20important experiences from Venezuela, but they also bring experiences from other
00:28:23countries. Now also the situation of the United Nations, I was talking
00:28:26about in these cases climate problems create a new
00:28:30migration which is climate migration. Internal, do you
00:28:33also have to do with migration? Well, IOM, which is the specialized
00:28:37agency for migration issues or for example,
00:28:40which works with refugees, they are part of the
00:28:43humanitarian architecture where we are, and in the case of Venezuela, the
00:28:47United Nations, because I think the Red Cross is not intergovernmental, but as a
00:28:50private organization it also has a very specific migration
00:28:53program, yes, the Red Cross is, let's say, an
00:28:56observer member of the humanitarian architecture and we work in
00:28:59coordination and in articulation with them also because what
00:29:02we basically do is to prevent
00:29:06duplication of actions, so knowing exactly
00:29:09who does what where helps us to know,
00:29:13and we also respect the mandates of different organizations. Now for the Venezuelan women who listen to you,
00:29:16especially students linked to law and international
00:29:20relations, how do they join the United Nations system and
00:29:23in the particular case of humanitarian action, well there are
00:29:26many ways to get involved, there is a first step that I
00:29:30would suggest is to look at the UN
00:29:34Volunteers program, which is a very important program, it is very interesting
00:29:37because people when they hear the word volunteers think it is without
00:29:41pay, but the training
00:29:45they receive in these programs, the incentives are very important and I
00:29:49would invite all students who are
00:29:52interested in these issues to get involved, there is
00:29:55information on our websites, we are on
00:29:59social networks, in the case of Ocha specifically we are on Instagram,
00:30:03we are on Twitter, we are on
00:30:06many platforms, I see that today precisely one of the officials who is
00:30:10in charge of public relations and also of advertising,
00:30:13not information, she is the our public
00:30:17information officer, because for us it is very important to communicate
00:30:21and for people to understand the work we do, to also bring closer
00:30:24what the United Nations do, what our partners do
00:30:27in Venezuela, it is very important that it is understood because, as you
00:30:31said, the United Nations are many things and
00:30:35well, it is important to understand that the humanitarian role, the humanitarian work reaches
00:30:39a certain point and then there are other colleagues, other specialized
00:30:42agencies that deal with other issues more related to
00:30:46development. Well, Vanessa Meya has been a pleasure for
00:30:49our programs and for Globovisión to have her with us to
00:30:52inform about such important activities, especially in this
00:30:56time after the earthquake with the humanitarian crisis in
00:30:59Venezuela, it is important that the public knows what they are
00:31:03doing and, as you said, that young people also join this work in the
00:31:06United Nations and especially in the humanitarian area, so thank you very much,
00:31:10we will continue inviting her to talk about some universities, later
00:31:13we have guests precisely to talk about migration, which is also a fundamental
00:31:17humanitarian issue, so thank you very much, keep up the good work and in whatever
00:31:21way we can support you, Globovisión is at your service, thank you very much Ambassador, the pleasure has
00:31:24been mine, we continue then later with other interviews.
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00:32:23professionals. AM with Beatriz Lugo from
00:36:26Last weekend Europe experienced one of the most serious
00:36:29migratory crises, there was talk of a hybrid war using migration and
00:36:33it is even said that it is the first time that with social networks
00:36:37a torrent of 60,000 people has been summoned to invade
00:36:40a country, peacefully of course, but it is an invasion and there is a
00:36:44permanent controversy between the Arab world and Europe over migration and especially
00:36:48Morocco which has an internal problem with the
00:36:51old Spanish territories that are in the area precisely in the interior of
00:36:55Morocco, which Morocco with the green march left without any
00:36:59reason, it appropriated territory, but Morocco also, if
00:37:02I look at the map we have in front of us, has this very
00:37:05peculiar situation, this is all of Africa, Europe begins, the
00:37:09last European border is precisely here in two cities that
00:37:12are on the African continent, which are Ceuta and
00:37:15Melilla, but the problem occurred here in Ceuta, it is 9
00:37:19km2, the city of Ceuta that is African
00:37:22territory, but in Ceuta it is a Spanish
00:37:25city since 1540, that is. they are historically
00:37:29Spanish, Ceuta and Melilla, like the Canary Islands that are also on the
00:37:33continent closer to Africa, but Europe has its last border
00:37:36here, hence that invading
00:37:3950,000 people one day crossing to the beach,
00:37:42to the border of Spain here in the southern zone very close to
00:37:46Gibraltar, Algeciras and very close to Cadiz, it was as
00:37:50Europeans say that these illegal immigrants also pass through all
00:37:53of Europe and reach Italy or
00:37:57happened beyond Spain, the closure of Italy's borders, that is why
00:38:00today we have a specialist in migration such as
00:38:03Santiago Science, who handles the issue very well, he has spoken about
00:38:07migration and we are going to ask him about this geopolitical fact of migration,
00:38:11no longer, as we said, only with the United Nations that the
00:38:14doctor previously mentioned, that it was a geopolitical,
00:38:18humanitarian issue, but that this is also a
00:38:21precisely develop the
00:38:24importance that migration has today Santiago. Anyway,
00:38:28Santiago, introduce yourself and tell us why you give so much importance
00:38:32to migration, yes, good afternoon ambassador, uh,
00:38:35exactly what has happened is, as you call it, a
00:38:39hybrid war, no, this is not any type of
00:38:42migration, uh, attached to the legal framework, it is a migration that
00:38:46must be looked at with a magnifying glass and spoken about in a global
00:38:49context and above all a context where it adheres to
00:38:53legality but also opposes illegality
00:38:56because it is specifically in the legal field that this
00:38:59migration, this mass of people that numbers around 60,000
00:39:03Moroccan migrants who have arrived both in Ceuta and
00:39:06Melilla, uh, through social networks and the dissemination of
00:39:10precisely a sentence from the city of Seville that
00:39:14establishes that a person or migrant who enters
00:39:17by swimming in a maritime manner is a person
00:39:21who does not tend to deportability, there you have to
00:39:24be very careful because there is a loophole in the law. and it does not
00:39:28explain exactly how to proceed or what
00:39:31exactly is the situation of the person who enters by swimming, so
00:39:35that unfortunately in an irresponsible way was
00:39:39massively disseminated, apparently directed by Morocco, which is what is proposed, the detail
00:39:42is that to fall in a legal way, we are already talking in a political
00:39:46sphere, but to establish it in a legal way we would have to have a series of
00:39:50proofs to create exactly jurisprudence and to
00:39:53establish legal consequences in this regard, that's why there is a new migration law in
00:39:56Europe. but it is fundamental because if that
00:40:04be repeated in Italy, it will be repeated in Portugal, there are already
00:40:07governments of the European Union that have taken action,
00:40:10the day before yesterday, they closed what they call the Schengen treaty, which was
00:40:14the opening of all borders, President Meloni has just done it, President
00:40:18Meloni closed the Schengen area for Spanish citizens, they have
00:40:22to have a double control, Spanish people who wish to enter
00:40:25Italian territory, but Portugal has just approved a very important
00:40:28law that the Chega party which is a party of a conservative
00:40:32coalition that is of high denomination in the
00:40:35parliament has established that Portugal is for
00:40:38Portuguese and people who wish to reside in Portugal
00:40:42internationals must adapt to Portuguese morals and good
00:40:45customs, so it is no longer a topic that only two or
00:40:49three people are talking about, it is a global
00:40:52topic where everyone who wants and wishes to emigrate because it is a natural
00:40:55human flow, there is a natural right to migration, but there are also United
00:40:59Nations norms with asylum and refuge established in conventions,
00:41:03but to that migration like that of Spain which was a total eruption of
00:41:074000 people, but I repeat, that migration in Spain
00:41:11which was not totally is uncontrollable, that
00:41:14migration, Spain has to channel it through legal
00:41:17methods, it has to channel exactly a new migratory
00:41:20code or establish more severe regulations, and Morocco's
00:41:24responsibility as the place of origin, well, Morocco has had a responsibility. It is a responsibility that should
00:41:28be brought before the court because it is a responsibility that is purely
00:41:32planned, I must say this with great responsibility, it is a state
00:41:35that has some other ambitions that
00:41:39have been around for many years regarding the territories of Ceuta and
00:41:42Melilla, the detail is that the people who are residing in the
00:41:46European Union also around the world are people who
00:41:50wish to live under their own rules and
00:41:53culture, here clearly the culture is being transgressed with
00:41:57a way of thinking and a way of having a social context
00:42:01completely different from the West, now in
00:42:04why does a Venezuelan like you, a migration specialist,
00:42:07care about this special case of Melilla and Ceuta in
00:42:11Africa with Spain and all of Europe with the Schengen Treaty on
00:42:15migration in Latin America? What is happening? Without having this
00:42:18situation, similar cases could be repeated with massive
00:42:22migrations and collectivities directed towards a country. Well, first life led me to be a
00:42:26lawyer, but before that I am a migrant, no, I
00:42:29migrated for many years for a decade outside my country and I
00:42:33submitted to foreign regulations, how to channel
00:42:36myself exactly, how to be a regular migrant.
00:42:40By having a migratory responsibility, one also
00:42:43wishes for my country of Venezuela
00:42:47also wishes for a migratory responsibility, a migratory
00:42:50code adhering to Venezuelan legality but also based on the
00:42:53morals and good customs of the country, a code as I repeat I have said in
00:42:57many or a new migratory law that does not exist or there is a very old
00:43:00one, there is a very old one dating from the year
00:43:042004, that
00:43:07okay of today, it has no
00:43:10context, it was when Venezuela was a country of immigration and not emigration, well it was
00:43:14a law that in a somewhat
00:43:17opaque way did not function very well that year,
00:43:20so it hadn't happened, it hadn't happened so that the
00:43:24population could understand a law dating from the year 2004, we are
00:43:27in 2026, it is totally
00:43:30decontextualized and even more so when we are in
00:43:33situations like the one we experienced on June 24th, a natural
00:43:37disaster that can occur anywhere in the world but we have to be
00:43:41prepared for any type of eventuality, legal, economic
00:43:44and social, now in that case there is also an influx
00:43:48of migrants from Latin America towards a route that is the United States
00:43:53President Trump's policy, which has to do with that, with international law and especially
00:43:57the right to asylum and refuge that is enshrined by the United Nations,
00:44:00yes, uh, you highlight it very well, the right to asylum and refuge,
00:44:04fundamental in every Magna Carta, also fundamental in international
00:44:07principles, the detail is that that
00:44:10principle has been undermined, that unfortunately when one is going to
00:44:14determine exactly if there is credible fear in that migrant
00:44:17population, sadly it has to be said that it cannot be proven,
00:44:21because when there is a mass of millions of people
00:44:25transiting, uh, to reach the destination which in this case
00:44:28is North America, the United States or Canada, those people have
00:44:32a right to live, but they are misinformed and besides
00:44:36being misinformed they are not compatible with the
00:44:39principles that they are claiming, the principles that they are
00:44:43adhering to, being a refugee or being an asylum seeker has a series of
00:44:46elements that must be met, by not having notoriety of these
00:44:50elements, the person goes a blind path, that is why
00:44:54we must always disseminate the legal
00:44:57content and not fall unfortunately into what
00:45:00unfortunately is misinformed in the social media, Dr.
00:45:04Santiago, we are going to a commercial break and we will return to touch on those
00:45:07important aspects of the law in the case of Latin America taking this reference we made of
00:45:11Spain which is very important because all the press has dealt with the case and in
00:45:15international compass we have to touch on these issues that are eminently diplomatic and
00:45:19international, we'll be right back.
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00:46:26this Thursday in Kicosis we will talk with
00:46:28Francisco Mans, wellness and happiness
00:46:32coach, Kicosis, Thursday,
00:46:35one in the afternoon on
00:46:37Globovisión.
00:46:44This Saturday you can't miss the program because I'm
00:46:47going to tell you about the 88
00:46:50portal
00:46:52solar eclipse that we will have on August 12th and the
00:46:56lunar eclipse that we will have on August
00:46:5928th. Belkis Fenchui, Saturday
00:47:027 in the morning on
00:47:04Globovisión.
00:47:10This Saturday, in another vision, we took a 2-year
00:47:14break and as a result of what
00:47:18was this tragedy that really not only
00:47:21hit. not a whole nation, uh,
00:47:24we had to come back, our program is for 24 months where
00:47:28we can help at least 500 children, that is,
00:47:32and I say at least because 500 children is a very
00:47:36low number for what we are facing, but one also
00:47:39has to know how far one can cover, another vision,
00:47:43Saturday, one in the afternoon on
00:47:46Globovisión.
00:47:55Venezuela lived submerged in permanent military
00:47:58campaigns, outbreaks of epidemics
00:48:01and unexpected defeats, each battle could be the
00:48:05last.
00:48:061818,
00:48:09in the midst of the campaign, a piece of news broke in
00:48:12Europe. Bolivar has died
00:48:16without glory or witnesses. A
00:48:19newspaper states it, others repeat it.
00:48:23and like an echo, alliances fall, troops
00:48:26dissolve and hope
00:48:28dies. this Sunday discover
00:48:31how a printed lie
00:48:34almost buried freedom before it was
00:48:37born, hosted by Inocencio Figueroa
00:48:41Sunday in the news rounds at
00:48:459:30 in the morning and 12 noon
00:48:48on Globovisión.
00:49:19In the history of humanity, the first books of literature were the Odyssey and
00:49:22the Iliad and precisely it is said that the Odyssey that is happening in Caracas, an
00:49:26extraordinary production by Nolan, is a song to
00:49:30immigration, really Odysseus who is Odysseus, Ulysses
00:49:33in Italy, in Rome, Odysseus in
00:49:36Greece, was the one who made the immense journey to Ithaca where Penelope
00:49:40and his son, Telemachus, awaited him.
00:49:43Also with so many difficulties, with a basic principle where he arrived,
00:49:47which was the law of Zeus, which was to receive the
00:49:50foreigner well. You, who are a specialist in migration, it is a principle
00:49:54of humanity to receive well those who come from another country, but when there are migrations like those
00:49:58we saw in Spain, in Spain with Seville, in Ceuta and
00:50:02in Melilla, it is a problem when there are illegal migrations, you say that when there are
00:50:06rights and a legal framework, one can migrate, but when not, what happens in those
00:50:10cases, of course, here, here it is an important, uh,
00:50:13comparison, because always when humanitarian
00:50:16law contradicts the internal law of each country, then it is an example that I
00:50:20give. very basic, the person who is going to enter a neighbor's house cannot
00:50:23enter with muddy feet, they don't want to get the house dirty.
00:50:26the person, there are regulations that must be complied with,
00:50:30of course, here it must be made very clear, here it is a violation of
00:50:34international law, here it is a violation of internal Spanish law and
00:50:38one must have an awareness and first, a
00:50:41legal education regarding why this way of
00:50:45entering is totally detached from the law, in fact there you have the map of our
00:50:48continent and you have to see the migratory flows that go towards the United States.
00:50:52a bit like what happens with Africa and the Arab world towards Spain, towards the European Union,
00:50:56but in the United States there are new rules that must be known
00:51:00and adapted to or explained and also our
00:51:03legislation guiding in that sense, we must guide, uh, we have to be very
00:51:07responsible in what is being established, we have to here we have to take
00:51:10responsibility for our migratory mass in the United States of
00:51:13America, we have to educate them about it, we have to first understand
00:51:16that it is a totally different law from the continental one, it is
00:51:20common law, it is customary law, it is a law that is
00:51:24totally based on principles of custom and
00:51:27handled here in Venezuela, it is a country of emigration,
00:51:31because we see the United States and we see that the migratory fat of Europe was determinant for
00:51:34the constitution of the North American people, of course, but it is a country of migration, that
00:51:38migration that you are saying, ambassador, is a migration that went to populate, a planned
00:51:42migration, we repeat, we have to be very aware and
00:51:45responsible and have, let's say, the
00:51:48vision of moving our Venezuelan
00:51:52un respaldo jurídico, pero darle una información también que no está
00:51:55blind, uh, we have seen some progress in this regard and what
00:51:59formally, the proposal for
00:52:03migration reform before the Assembly. before the National Assembly, but the most
00:52:07important thing is to restore international relations,
00:52:10restore diplomatic relations, because the embassy and the
00:52:14consulate are the executive arm of the Venezuelan state
00:52:17in the country where it is, we will have our consulate in Miami, cultural center in
00:52:21Florida, in Washington, New York and especially in Los Angeles
00:52:25to San Francisco, yes, but I vote because
00:52:28we must have that, but it must be explained so that the population understands it,
00:52:32if it is not explained, we are blind, just to tell the national
00:52:35population, a migrant who does not have a representation of
00:52:39their country in their place of residence is a migrant who has no rights, is a
00:52:42migrant who is stripped of all types of rights and duties, it is now foreseen with the
00:52:46opening of relations of the embassy in Caracas to have our consulates and our two
00:52:52what we expect, we have been waiting for almost a decade, more than a decade waiting
00:52:56for it and we have to give an answer to our migration, I repeat, now these problems that immigrants
00:53:00have today in the United States, how to address them, where to ask for
00:53:03an explanation, how...
00:53:07Well, what I wanted to say, what I wanted to finish was that exactly without representation abroad
00:53:11we are blurred and that is not only in the United States, also in the southern
00:53:15cone, Peru, Chile, it seems that they are already in conversations to
00:53:18re-establish diplomatic relations, where there are many
00:53:20Venezuelans, that's why we have to have the responsibility of having a guide
00:53:24and a roadmap for the Venezuelan population, it is a mere
00:53:27necessity, that has to be a state policy, not only
00:53:31to stay in what one can talk about, it has to become a fact in that regard.
00:53:35uh, the person who wants any type of information about migration, exactly how
00:53:39to migrate legally can contact us through the phone number
00:53:4304127846336
00:53:45my partner Anarditsone uh answers calls here in the office in Caracas,
00:53:48Venezuela and through the social network
00:53:50Santiagoscience.law
00:53:53now when you see new rules, for example in Spain or in
00:53:57Italy or in Portugal you have to catch up also because many
00:54:01children or grandchildren who can claim European nationality have to know
00:54:07one always has to establish,
00:54:09democratize migratory content,
00:54:12we are a country that
00:54:16migratory laws, we were not a
00:54:19country of migrants, now we are, there is a large
00:54:22migratory population that requires
00:54:24representation, but a representation attached to
00:54:28the law, with feet on the ground, it cannot
00:54:32others say or what is a supposition. it has to be what
00:54:36the law says exactly and a law that
00:54:39can go against or in favor of the migrant, but it is the one we have to know, but
00:54:43not listen to siren songs in the migratory part like in the movie of Odysseus
00:54:46where fortunately Ulysses ties himself to the
00:54:50central mast so that the sirens do not deceive him because there are
00:54:54many siren singers who are announcing to leave the country
00:54:58or or they will find and it is better to give up on that,
00:55:01you have examples here in Petare you told me totally we have to have a
00:55:05responsibility first in this regard in the Petare neighborhood you told me that you have a
00:55:08job done, totally yes, in the Petare neighborhood we did a survey
00:55:11years ago, we practically surveyed 300
00:55:14people who have discouraged people, they have discouraged
00:55:18people from leaving and if they want to leave, it must be according to the
00:55:21law, it must be with a
00:55:25Venezuelan and American North American yes because we already have North American Venezuelans
00:55:29we have a generation of Venezuelans born in the United States also has to have a context
00:55:33has to have a reality. I repeat, outside of the law there can be
00:55:37nothing, because it is to go to the uncertain, a person who wants to emigrate
00:55:40with lack of knowledge, trusting in third parties where there is no
00:55:44proper legal advice is a person who is going
00:55:47blind, get advice before making such an important decision because
00:55:51it is a life decision, migrating changes life, the person who migrates is not the same
00:55:55from the one who leaves to the one who returns. now there are studies done in statistical matter that it is
00:55:59interesting to consider seeing the families from where
00:56:02they go, where they come from, who left? what possibility is there to recover that
00:56:06population and now that Venezuela has better conditions, those emigrants who
00:56:10left can contribute a lot, give them advantages as the Europeans did
00:56:15the dictatorship who then returned and are part of the national
00:56:19development, totally, here what they have I repeat, here a new
00:56:22vision has to come, we are proposing a reform of the migratory law because
00:56:26unfortunately we are unprotected by any type of migration law in
00:56:30our country, the law of foreigners and naturalization
00:56:33is totally weak then. by having something that represents us, we have
00:56:37to propose something that is for the future,
00:56:40projecting a robust nationality, a nationality attached to legal
00:56:44principles and always understanding that our morals and
00:56:47our good customs have to be channeled so that this
00:56:51respect continues and endures in the future, something very important here and
00:56:54forgive me for taking this minute ambassador, is where we can have the
00:56:58severity of the law, we, we have to understand the population and
00:57:02give it a legal framework and a context with what happened in Vargas
00:57:05State, we have to take data in Vargas State, in Vargas State there are
00:57:09people who no longer have a home, there are people who do not even have a place to
00:57:12land or where to go, emotional support is
00:57:15destroyed, they are internal immigrants, right? and they are internal immigrants and also
00:57:19want to migrate, but we don't know that, we have to
00:57:23know the context for that, we have to gather data in the state, we have to know
00:57:26exactly what happens there, the person wants to migrate, the person does not want to migrate, the
00:57:30person where will they move, many people will not be able to represent
00:57:36the Vargas area, no yes, and we are channeling it and we will achieve it and
00:57:40when we have the data we will show it to the country so that it is
00:57:43public knowledge, it is very important that we are
00:57:46part. an echo and we can make known exactly
00:57:50what happens there, because otherwise we cannot have any type of law attached to
00:57:54reality, Dr. Vanessa Mey from the United Nations told us that she wants
00:57:58to approach universities, we could propose a seminar, a diploma
00:58:02on migration with all these characteristics that have geopolitical,
00:58:05political, economic, social, we are open to it when the
00:58:09school of the central university is restored, especially and other
00:58:12universities because they have had a halt
00:58:15due to the earthquake. Well, we are totally open because
00:58:19I repeat, the content must be disseminated so that it can be a
00:58:22long-lasting law. Now we also talked about Latin America should
00:58:26act together, not only Venezuela or Colombia, or Chile or Peru separately,
00:58:30but within the Latin American framework like the European Union, which are 27 countries
00:58:33with a common policy on migration, as well as on international matters
00:58:37or defense. Well, I believe that there are clear advances, there are
00:58:41actions, at least Chile, Peru, Ecuador,
00:58:44Colombia, but at a regional level, norms that are useful for. Well,
00:58:48they are already implementing a meeting between President Keiko Fujimori and President
00:58:51Casa regarding migration and in that migration we also fall as Venezuelan
00:58:55nationality, it has to have support, now I tell the
00:58:58national population, if we ourselves as Venezuelans and for
00:59:01Venezuelans do not have migratory support, serious legal
00:59:05support, sustained over time, who will do it for us, it is time to do it
00:59:09now, repeat your networks and your data for any
00:59:13contact, you can contact our office here in Caracas, Venezuela.
00:59:17uh in Altamira the phone number
00:59:2004127846336
00:59:22and any query through the social network Santiago
00:59:25science.law well and as we told you at the beginning
00:59:31the Odyssey everything is a
00:59:34life, we have to provide the conditions and satisfied needs to
00:59:38be able to do it well and of course there are norms as you said of
00:59:42receiving from the house of any neighbor of any country to know their
00:59:45legislation for those specialists. ready, that's why we will continue
00:59:49touching on the issue of migration always in international compass, as today we had the United Nations
00:59:53and a university professor, a specialist, we will continue touching on
00:59:56the topic along with other international topics that always in compass have
01:00:00a place because it is part of education, of training and knowledge for a
01:00:03better country, as we are programming and projecting all Venezuelans, tomorrow
01:00:07the force of words and our
01:00:11análisis en profundidad como el de esta tarde, muy buenas
01:00:13tardes.
01:00:29Next, Globovisión Economy news,
01:00:32informative program with elements
01:00:36y violencia, solo para adultos, programa de
01:00:40producción
01:00:41nacional.