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00:00:02dico, don't say that, you are not the boss, you
00:01:32listening to you, I like what you say, in
00:01:35particular, I've been telling you and I've said it, the, the, the
00:01:39figures that make up Fedecámaras, the
00:01:43leadership seems to me perhaps
00:01:46the spearhead of the country's leadership, in
00:01:49terms of sanity, they are not politicians,
00:01:53but since they stayed and have faced hardships,
00:01:57simplification of headlines, I look for what tell me, the real estate chamber.
00:02:00We had periods of glory and then
00:02:04horrible droughts and also when
00:02:08when this revolution of expropriations
00:02:12became fashionable, the laws
00:02:14destroyed the rental market because renting
00:02:19people talking about another condition of meant
00:02:22that the tenant who rented to you expropriated you, because
00:02:26they declared themselves in rebellion because Chávez
00:02:29didn't have a clear concept of private
00:02:32property, he didn't have it, Mauro, I think he had it
00:02:35clearer and in the case
00:02:37mayor's office, let the company that is going to of he understands that it cannot be solved, that the
00:02:41basis of the modern state
00:02:45is not, as Marx said, that private property did
00:02:49not exist and the family was communal, no, no, no, that's
00:02:52not how it is, understanding that, in the last reform of
00:02:56the law, astonishingly.
00:03:00Instead of defending tenants,
00:03:03that there is, eh, what I believe, makes the cash flows of they defend
00:03:04the people who come owners, that seemed stupid, but it's
00:03:07not, it's not, because to
00:03:10establish legal stability, that
00:03:13which is always good, that we need laws, that the institution, the first
00:03:17thing to respect is that people
00:03:22and in important, but what have the right to have their things and that is not bad, that is good and that the state
00:03:26that has to do with must respect
00:03:28legitimization with property, but as we... we were all in the middle of
00:03:31the revolution, private property was bad, being
00:03:34rich was
00:03:37well-being can be generated in bad, but all that has been changing, look, and now with the
00:03:40earthquake,
00:03:43the need
00:03:45approval of this legislative framework of opens an opportunity
00:03:48to rebuild, because if
00:03:51we boost construction again,
00:03:54look, one of the possibilities for the economy to
00:03:59to be able to accompany you in recover, because a lot of money, jobs, etc., construction,
00:04:02well, having said this, yesterday you had a meeting in Fedecámaras,
00:04:06well, first of all,
00:04:08body is published in the thank you very much for the invitation and let's start with the fundamental
00:04:11concept that from the Venezuelan Real Estate Chamber
00:04:14we tried to highlight
00:04:17Luis Arráez, who is from Cocorote, when we were promoting the review of the real estate
00:04:20legal framework is definitively the rescue of
00:04:24private property. Property owners with
00:04:27legislation that was in
00:04:32capacity of From force, understood that putting the property on the
00:04:35rental market for a person to occupy
00:04:38it was practically giving up their right to private property due to the
00:04:42number of difficult processes that the same law
00:04:4680%, depending on what contemplated for recovering that property.
00:04:49Fundamentally, even though it
00:04:53was a very unbalanced law, it had
00:04:56all the, let's say, principles and protections for the tenant.
00:05:00Yes, there were three processes that
00:05:04were absolutely
00:05:05right next to pernicious and opaque and that complicated the
00:05:09exercise of that, of, of, of that, of that economic
00:05:12exercise, such as renting, look, first there were
00:05:16two parties in the contract to make law, there were three parties,
00:05:20there was a regulatory body, to that regulatory body
00:05:24you had to go when there was a difference and the
00:05:27regulatory body which was an administrative
00:05:30phase, well,
00:05:33analyzing the case, it could practically take
00:05:37three, four, even five years, but it
00:05:40could not make a decision to say, well, you recover your
00:05:43property, we are going to evict the defaulting tenant,
00:05:47no, but after that, you had to go to the courts to
00:05:50start a new process and
00:05:53it practically took the same amount of time, so between highs
00:05:57and lows, between zero and 10 years, the court would say,
00:06:00well, yes, the gentleman has to leave,
00:06:04but it's because there was a writ of amparo resulting from a
00:06:07decree that did not allow the
00:06:10resolutions of the flicks through the recovery, the
00:06:14execution of the, of the sentence to happen,
00:06:17so the whole game was blocked, effectively
00:06:21since 2022 we have been working very regularly in
00:06:24the executive and in the legislative, making the contribution that the
00:06:28chamber indicated that this
00:06:31condition made apartments, owners
00:06:35decide to prefer to keep them
00:06:37closed, and it is there where
00:06:40the work, let's say, of training and education begins, but
00:06:44fundamentally, I repeat, it is the rescue of private property,
00:06:48it is the rescue of the right to private property, because when you have a
00:06:52the right, you exercise the right to private property, you can have a guarantee of
00:06:55rent, and if you have a guarantee of rent, then you have an
00:06:59incentive to be able to enter into the, in the, in the issue, and as you
00:07:02just indicated, the, the exercise and
00:07:06the aspiration to generate wealth through one's
00:07:10own investment is absolutely nothing to
00:07:14criticize. Indeed, we
00:07:17were able to position principles and
00:07:20ideas from the real estate chamber that
00:07:23are reflected in this legislative
00:07:25body. I am going to highlight what we believe are the most
00:07:29important ones to continue supporting your idea of
00:07:33private property, the principle, the, the fundamental
00:07:35principle is that there is an agreement between the parties and these parties through
00:07:39a contract make law. We are
00:07:43absolutely convinced that this
00:07:45freedom that can be exercised today through
00:07:49this new legislative body makes
00:07:51negotiation, which is manifested through a
00:07:55contract, have a lot of meaning and value, I think that is
00:07:58important to recover. Then the specific
00:08:02time is defined for the security deposits when
00:08:05handing over the apartment and that is defined and can
00:08:09be paid through an insurance policy or a guarantee and that,
00:08:16with the rental issue manageable, indexed
00:08:20contracts are made in foreign currency, the
00:08:24indexed contract is allowed to be made in foreign currency, so it is paid in bolivars at the
00:08:27exchange rate of the day the payment takes place, this is
00:08:31we rescue from the chamber as the, the, the
00:08:35most important contribution that this
00:08:38law contemplated is the possibility of
00:08:42resolving differences through arbitration and that
00:08:46makes everything I introduced regarding the
00:08:49time it took to recover your private property, at this
00:08:52moment if there is a disagreement, if you don't pay
00:08:56the, well, there is a much faster period that through
00:08:59arbitration, guarantees the execution of a sentence, of a
00:09:03decision and that exercise of
00:09:06freedom, those are exercises of citizen rights and that is enshrined in the
00:09:10new law, we have the issue that there
00:09:13will be two rental regimes in force from the moment this
00:09:17new legislative
00:09:20gazette and everything that is, let's say, from the day it appears in the gazette backwards
00:09:24will continue to be regulated under this 2011
00:09:27norm, without a doubt, the real estate chamber
00:09:30highlighted this condition and will continue
00:09:33to influence the discussions that we will
00:09:37continue to have because that is the, the, the arrangement of the
00:09:40agreement or what remained.
00:09:44the review made by the specific commission that dedicated itself to the rental
00:09:47law to continue making contributions and continue understanding this,
00:09:51this tells the
00:09:55owner, well, we have conditions that are
00:09:58perfectible, we have conditions that need
00:10:01to improve, but without a doubt, we already have an important
00:10:05step forward that allows us to say, well, let's
00:10:08try, let's start generating trust and then
00:10:12comes another reflection you made about our umbrella organization,
00:15:49leadership of the chamber, because Fedecámaras was marked by
00:15:53Carmona,
00:15:56who, by the way, in the meeting with the prosecutor,
00:15:59the pardon for Carmona was being processed so that he could return to
00:16:03the country, the prosecutor told us about
00:16:067000 and... it was almost 8000 cases of
00:16:09real estate conflicts
00:16:13that due to a very strange
00:16:15culture in the country, people feel that there is justice
00:16:19when someone is put in prison, put him in prison, if he is not
00:16:23put in prison there is no justice, so real estate
00:16:26issues that are not for the courts went
00:16:30to the courts and congested
00:16:34judges with 2000 cases, 3000 cases, what can a judge do
00:16:38with 2, cases, nothing, magistrates with a number of
00:16:41cases, because that concept that you can't
00:16:44fix anything, which is a concept by its nature of
00:16:48politics, of force, well,
00:16:51it prevails in all associations, you are in a building and you play music at
00:16:54full volume and the neighbor calls the police,
00:16:58because, uh, okay, the neighbor is old, he doesn't
00:17:01like the music, but, but young people
00:17:05have the right to music, the noise. that has to
00:17:08be compensated, that is, no, but no, you can't call the
00:17:11police, for God's sake, that's not how it is,
00:17:14so to return that, the law makes
00:17:18it common sense,
00:17:20wow, now why does such an obvious thing
00:17:24take so long, it's so difficult to
00:17:27understand, because here everything,
00:17:30everything, instead of seeking the
00:17:34the law, of its execution.
00:17:37The state's effectiveness, we complicate everything, I give the
00:17:41example of the elevators, the
00:17:43elevators, during the earthquake, yes, they became misaligned because it was a very
00:17:47strong earthquake, well,
00:17:50since there were so many deteriorated buildings, what
00:17:53had to be done was, well, find authorized
00:17:56people and let them take care of that, no, they
00:17:59put it in something that exists there that has
00:18:02never worked, a chamber, a, I don't know, permit and
00:18:06and and what they did was delay that, until
00:18:10Garcés appeared these days and said: no, look, go to the
00:18:15donate the elevator be responsible and that's it, but, but a
00:18:18month passed, so, the topic,
00:18:21we return, let's get into Fedecámaras, when Fedecámaras
00:18:25understands
00:18:27that it has to do economics in a country where the fashion is
00:18:30expropriation and and and and there is no respect for
00:18:34private property, there is no legal stability, all those lawsuits that...
00:18:37we have the debt that Venezuela has in courts abroad is due to
00:18:41expropriations, due to the ignorance of the law, but
00:18:44Fedecámaras first began to change the
00:18:47discourse, to understand that its role was as an entrepreneur
00:18:51and instead of becoming the enemy, rich and
00:18:55poor, no, people, leadership that thinks about
00:18:59the country and that deserves all the praise in the
00:19:02world, I am a Fedecámaras supporter, even though I am
00:19:05poor.
00:19:08Excuse the long introduction but I do it like this, Fedecámaras
00:19:11is today one of the most recognized
00:19:14institutions in the people, in the
00:19:17surveys in Venezuela,
00:19:20for not saying one or two in any order,
00:19:24church and Fedecámaras and that fundamentally,
00:19:27why? The first thing is that it is an institution
00:19:30that defends its principles and
00:19:34values represented in its statutes.
00:19:37The statutes of Fedecámaras are, let's say, the most
00:19:41important constitution that the organization has,
00:19:45where there are the possibilities of resolving
00:19:48even differences through the application of its own
00:19:51statutes, but where fundamentally the
00:19:54exercise of freedom and democracy makes
00:19:58it give the institution
00:20:01a solid foundation. It is an institution that has been
00:20:04professionalizing its guild every day.
00:20:08In Venezuela, it is a very high-level
00:20:11guild, when you go on tours of the regional
00:20:15chambers, you can observe that those
00:20:18state presidents, those regional chamber
00:20:21presidents, do it better every day, I am on the chamber's board because I
00:20:24represent a sector, I represent the real estate sector,
00:20:28we have 20 chambers, the majority are affiliated
00:20:32with Fedecámaras and that is why we have a very, very
00:20:35close interaction. But the most important thing is that they have known
00:20:39how to read the country and despite the fact that some
00:20:43decisions have brought a certain level of controversy, there are
00:20:46other decisions, the majority have
00:20:50coincided with reality and have been able, let's say,
00:20:53to contribute in a decisive
00:20:57way to what can be, what is, the
00:21:00construction of a new country, of a new society, today I can
00:21:04guarantee that the organized private sector through our
00:21:07umbrella organization has been called, has been
00:21:11consulted and above all as a result of this, of, of this
00:21:15natural event, we have a
00:21:18living action, an action that is representative,
00:21:22look at what the construction chamber has done, for example, which together with the
00:21:25oil chamber carried out a census of what
00:21:29yellow machinery is, which is heavy machinery and
00:21:32they were able to open a trust fund where
00:21:35the, the, the initial contributions were made by the Andean
00:21:39Development Corporation, we are seeing and that was
00:21:42hours after the seismic event occurred,
00:21:46these responses were created very quickly, what I want to say is that the
00:21:49sector. is working very actively to
00:21:53generate conditions and it is the leadership of Fedecámaras, very
00:21:56well represented, you speak of a great, a great
00:22:00president that the organization had, Jorge Bottino, but you also
00:22:03mentioned Ricardo Guzano, we mention Carlos
00:22:06Fernández, Carlos Fernández who in my opinion is brilliant, Carlos, Adán
00:22:10Celis and today, today we have the leadership of, of
00:22:13Felipe Capozzolo who without a
00:22:16doubt, we have the clarity,
00:22:20the constancy that he works 24 hours together
00:22:23with his current board of directors, in a united
00:22:26way, in a coordinated way and
00:22:30in a joint way, to generate conditions, to
00:22:34generate situations that the
00:22:37private sector in the country is demanding today, the first thing that is demanded in the country is a
00:22:40vision and to have vision we need to have a concept of
00:22:44unity and that vision of that
00:22:47concept of vision, that concept of unity today in Fedecámaras is
00:22:50represented through its board of directors and we are
00:22:53diligently working and
00:22:55committed to the generation of a new society, of a new
00:22:59Venezuela, you told me why changes are
00:23:03slow, well sometimes changes are slow because we have
00:23:06to grow, we have to evolve, we have to
00:23:10change, today I am here sitting talking about a new
00:23:13law and you talk about some lawsuits that are alive and that are
00:23:17protected by another, by the previous law. Eh, those
00:23:20lawsuits, we have a number above
00:23:2420,000 for you to have an idea, and
00:23:28that represents a strategic challenge, the real estate
00:23:30chamber raised its voice saying that this
00:23:34condition, this situation does
00:23:36not, let's say, give us a concept of justice that
00:23:40can clearly generate trust to act, but
00:23:44I also have to say that it would be very
00:23:48little strategic not to recognize that
00:23:52we took an important step with the recognition of this body and this
00:23:55new law, it would be very little strategic not to
00:23:59say, ladies and gentlemen, the work is being
00:24:02done here, we will never say rent or not rent, that
00:24:06will be a decision that you in the exercise of your citizenship through
00:24:10private property
00:24:12the as a landlord you will make when you
00:24:15consult with your specialist in tenancy law,
00:24:19some guidelines will be given there, but we definitely have a
00:24:22very interesting moment to start
00:24:25building a foundation, notice what we observe from the Venezuelan
00:24:29Real Estate Chamber and what can be a great contribution to the
00:24:33private sector, including
00:24:35the recognition of private property that is made through this legislative body, I
00:24:39told you to generate income and if it generates income there is a
00:24:43possibility then to be able to call investors
00:24:46so that through non-conventional,
00:24:49non-traditional mechanisms, such as capital
00:24:53market mechanisms, we can unite this capital with
00:24:57developers and we can act for the generation of new housing
00:25:01units that, let me rescue, as a result of the previous
00:25:03real estate framework or the one we are currently
00:25:07reviewing, there is a specific law which is the real estate
00:25:10fraud law that has made developers leave the
00:25:14market and in Venezuela you haven't seen a crane in more than 15 years
00:25:17in any of the main cities of the country, this
00:25:21real estate fraud law is also being reviewed, we have
00:25:25also made contributions, the real estate chamber and the Venezuelan construction
00:25:28chamber, we are waiting for a
00:25:31result because all the developers in Venezuela also
00:25:35made analyses of many developers, today your
00:25:38producer was with us at the Venezuelan Real Estate Chamber a long
00:29:42Pablo González with us, president of the Real Estate Chamber,
00:29:46we are talking about the new law and the
00:29:50situation that we have today,
00:29:5430,000 homes more or less I have heard are needed, maybe
00:29:56more, maybe less, but the
00:30:00truth is that people. who suffered the
00:30:03earthquake especially in La Guaira, although in the rest of the country there are also
00:30:07many affected and
00:30:11complex situations, but
00:30:14La Guaira is, let's say, it's
00:30:17the movie because people lost everything there,
00:30:20home, family, those who survived and everything that
00:30:24happened there eh, perhaps within
00:30:26the bad and the tragedy and
00:30:30everything, eh, but all that
00:30:33emotional, beautiful that happened there, the sacrifice that
00:30:37happened there should serve us so that, eh, the
00:30:40government announces some mortgage
00:30:44loans of
00:30:48you ask for, not for construction, which seems
00:30:51to me singular,
00:30:55but in La Guaira, look, the million homes
00:30:57fell, wow, so
00:31:01politics takes over and... looks for culprits, but many
00:31:04luxury buildings fell
00:31:08each other, so everything fell because the dimension of the earthquake was very
00:31:11strong and then yes there were many flexible
00:31:15constructions in La Guaira that led to corruption even, according to what has been reported now,
00:31:18no, a horrific
00:31:22corruption case there they built where they shouldn't have,
00:31:26but how does a person
00:31:30even get an 80,000 dollar loan
00:31:34of 80% on a 70,000 dollar home, if they
00:31:37don't even have a job, if they lost everything,
00:31:40then the entrepreneur cannot subsidize that
00:31:43because the entrepreneur depends on profit, if he does not
00:31:47have, he cannot produce loss, that makes no
00:31:50sense, but the state does have that function, it can
00:31:53do it, now there has to be
00:31:56credit, credit has been paralyzed for years
00:31:59because some economic geniuses
00:32:02implemented some shock measures to remove
00:32:06money from the market to avoid inflation, that works
00:32:09quickly, you boom boom and you throw other measures and
00:32:13balance, but we got stuck.
00:32:15There, so there is no credit anywhere, while
00:32:18all companies have credit,
00:32:22the state does not have credit,
00:32:25even though everyone says it, everyone talks,
00:32:29the state is slow, when I refer to acting with
00:32:33a certain, eh, it is not speed but effectiveness, which
00:32:37is different, the state has to be effective, the
00:32:40state cannot be a limbo, it's not that you are going to
00:32:43appoint the magistrates. You said appointed how long ago, about
00:32:47two months ago and now that fell, that's like a
00:32:51bridge of that, meanwhile that they were built and they stay
00:32:54like this, well, then no, the state cannot
00:32:57be something that you go to
00:33:01do a procedure and it is a cumbersome thing and they
00:33:04charge you and if not everything is late there is no
00:33:08paper or the printer doesn't work
00:33:12the state cannot be this atrophied thing.
00:33:15that manages public function in a way that
00:33:18you say, hey, but this is against, against, against, against the state
00:33:22itself, that is, the discredit, that is, in the
00:33:36okay, Siemens and General Electric, we are going to fix the
00:33:40electrical system, so the law comes out, wow,
00:33:43what a marvel, Siemens is no longer a single
00:33:47regulatory body for the electrical issue, all states
00:33:50can have solutions, we remember electricity, Caracas,
00:33:53etcetera, but the
00:33:56ownership of those companies, mostly the state must have it and why,
00:33:59that's an obstacle, why
00:34:03do you always have to, if you are going to
00:34:06assume, private ownership is assumed, which means, if
00:34:10you assume the problem, why do you always have to put
00:34:14the commas? the periods,
00:34:17look, Guico, eh, I'm going to start from back to front, I'm going
00:34:21to start with the electricity law, all the
00:34:25big, the big proposals to generate,
00:34:28let's say employment through the reactivation of construction
00:34:31pass because we have an electrical
00:34:35system eh
00:34:38robust, solid and that the private sector can
00:34:42participate in an important way due to
00:34:46the investment requirements that this
00:34:49electrical system depends on, so it is important
00:34:52to emphasize this so that all
00:34:56the people from the executive and legislative who are listening to your
00:34:59program today, understand that yes we are taking steps, but that
00:35:03we have to continue consolidating a situation so that there can
00:35:07be a country without electricity, well, it is simply a country that will not
00:35:11be able to advance in the reconstruction and even more so at this moment, so
00:35:15we urge the competent bodies, the National
00:35:18Assembly, to review and expand
00:35:22the concepts that you just mentioned in order to
00:35:26have electricity to undertake the reconstruction of the
00:35:29country. You spoke of
00:35:31subsidies and I want to make this word
00:35:35very clear in this part and in this intervention regarding the
00:35:39subsidies that are being offered by the
00:35:42state for the victims who
00:35:45lost everything, eh,
00:35:48let's then develop the idea
00:35:50at
00:35:526 in the afternoon on the 24th, you were probably
00:35:56starting, as was my case, preparing to watch the Brazil game, I don't
00:35:59remember Brazil, something, and suddenly
00:36:03everything moved, well, and well, there are a lot of
00:36:06reactions, there are people who, well,
00:36:09left and thank God they were able to
00:36:13survive and left. suddenly with shorts,
00:36:16a t-shirt and even barefoot, but
00:36:20at 6:05 they had absolutely nothing,
00:36:23everything had been taken by the yes,
00:36:27well, there are 17 thousand people at this moment in the shelters of La
00:36:31Guaira who are in those conditions,
00:36:34indeed the government gave a
00:36:38social response and very
00:36:41logical with a reality-based
00:36:44approach, that is, what do we do if all these
00:36:48people even lost their means of production,
00:36:51then a plan of direct subsidy to demand
00:36:54is proposed, that is, up to $70,000 they
00:36:58offer you a subsidy of 8000 of
00:37:0180% which translates into a subsidy of
00:37:05$56, and then they
00:37:07tell you that the quota, that is, the part that you are going to put which is
00:37:1120% you can pay, you can pay it in
00:37:1525 years with a very subsidized rate, everything I am
00:37:18saying, eh, has to be confirmed
00:37:22eh through the regulations that the executive will issue, but to speak of general
00:37:26lines of what is happening,
00:37:28this is very interesting,
00:37:31because
00:37:33a state of emergency like the one
00:37:36we have, the state can, can put, but you said
00:37:40something even more important, you said, well, but
00:37:44this is money that the state has to put, the government is the one that is going to
00:37:48be, let's say, the feeding of the money that
00:37:51all this system has to have, consequently
00:37:54we have a subsidy plan, direct for
00:37:58demand generated by the specific condition that the
00:38:01tragedy brings, we do not have at this
00:38:05moment due to the
00:38:07politics and macroeconomic conditions of the country, the
00:38:11conditions for the banking sector to enter
00:38:14massively to offer all the mortgage loans that
00:38:17made the middle class of Venezuela exist
00:38:21and be absolutely robust and generate
00:38:24let's say those dynamic growths that we had in
00:38:27Venezuela that we all agree that
00:38:31conditions change and credit can exist, of course
00:38:35it can, and that we are constantly aiming from
00:38:38the private sector with sustained contributions for this to
00:38:42happen, of course it can, what
00:38:45I do want to make clear today is that we today
00:38:49are not going to your bank's office and they tell you, look, I want one of those subsidized loans, that does not
00:38:53exist, that does not exist, that is for the people who are
00:38:57in the. products that can in the camps that can
00:39:00prove that they lost their home and
00:39:04that correctly according to the vision
00:39:07that we share in this program, eh,
00:39:11we see as a positive government
00:39:13contribution, eh, that will bring
00:39:16conditions obviously insofar as there is greater
00:39:20traceability of those resources, greater
00:39:24auditability of where those resources go and a
00:39:27follow-up that shows
00:39:31is being put is for what is being
00:39:34said will be done, without a doubt we will have
00:39:38a circle that can be a circuit that will serve all. Now there is
00:39:42a topic which is the figure, it does not matter
00:39:45how many apartments can enter here, the important thing
00:39:49is to think about how we create conditions in our vision
00:39:52so that more homes are produced, so that there is
00:39:56more contribution in construction, so that there is
00:39:59employment, so that there is a virtuous circle where
00:40:05society and it is there where we observe as an
00:40:08interesting and important step this
00:40:39Before going on air, there is a moment that no one sees,
00:40:43the order of each note, the calm before the
00:40:47signal and the value that each word must
00:40:50have. It's not about filling a
00:40:53screen, but about inhabiting your
00:40:56reality, because... it's not just saying what
00:40:59happens, but going beyond
00:41:02esa realidad sobre la
00:41:04reunión,
00:41:07te explicamos el mundo para que entiendas tu país,
00:41:11traducimos la ciencia para cuidar tu bienestar, filtramos el
00:41:14futuro para que lo uses hoy, verificamos las cifras y las
00:41:18traducimos tu día a día para que decidas con claridad, llevamos tu
00:41:22voz desde cada rincón de Venezuela,
00:41:25documentamos la pasión que nos une Como país
00:41:28demostramos cultura real, sin
00:41:32el talento que nos representa, todas estas
00:41:36voces, todas estas fuentes, unidas por
00:41:39una... la pasión la
00:41:41noticia
00:41:44tras 31 años de entrega, hoy
00:41:47renovamos nuestro compromiso con más fuerza
00:41:50que nunca, porque nuestra mayor
00:41:53especialización es mantenerte bien informados.
00:42:10This Saturday in another vision, we took a 2-year pause
00:42:13and due to what
00:42:17this tragedy was, which really not only hit
00:42:21the Guaira but an entire nation, eh,
00:42:24we had to turn our program around, it's 24 months in which
00:42:27we can help at least 5000 children, I say
00:42:31at least because 5 children is a super
00:42:35low number for what
00:42:39has to know... How much can it cover? Another vision,
00:42:42Saturday, 1 in the afternoon on
00:42:45Globovisión.
00:45:17Pablo González with us, the new
00:45:21law, okay, the rent, my
00:45:24mom, maybe your mom
00:45:27too, before there was
00:45:30credit, do you remember some Arabs with some suitcases
00:45:33that
00:45:36ingeve, the famous ingeve, by the way they set up.
00:45:41a large area, credit helped Venezuelans have cars,
00:45:45things, everything, because credit is the basis of
00:45:48capitalism, of business, of trade, of
00:45:52credit, the United States the country of credit, you can drive a
00:45:56Ferrari, yes, right now there is leasing and and
00:46:00all that you buy, you rent the car, you can fly a plane if you want,
00:46:03if you can pay for it, no, so
00:46:07of course. If you
00:46:10thought ahead,
00:46:13you take
00:46:16that phenomenon that happens with cache, that
00:46:19happens with everything, it serves you to with this
00:46:23emotional solidarity that
00:46:25there is of of of Venezuelan spirit, well let's go
00:46:29forward, let's get this done, it starts to open up in all
00:46:33senses, during the pandemic Venezuelan businessmen
00:46:36were able to supply the domestic market.
00:46:40Food, then the government that was
00:46:44anti-business realized that they were not enemies they had there, on the
00:46:47contrary, patriots who stayed, they did not take the money
00:46:51outside nor
00:46:54did they conspire but they stayed here then
00:46:57of course if you understand that there are different
00:47:01currents but there is a current that can drive the country
00:47:04forward which is all this that has happened to us all this
00:47:08history that all this confrontation
00:47:11wow perverse that you get into the nets and that's people with knives
00:47:14slitting each other's throats then if you don't get out of
00:47:18of of of the mentality
00:47:20Uh-huh, you can't change, then if the
00:47:24private business sector, I at least am defending, I
00:47:28defend it, I don't know if it serves for anything, that the oil
00:47:31company and business
00:47:35should seek in Venezuelan private capital
00:47:37one of its supports, because that's what the Americans did and look
00:47:41how they fared, but here there are people who
00:47:45believe, in the government there are still those, that it
00:47:48is bad, and there are those who want. that it is good, but they don't
00:47:51do it because how
00:47:54many
00:47:57obstacles, guys, everything is an
00:48:01obstacle and there is no will, no, I don't know how you see it,
00:48:04look, one of the most important concepts and
00:48:08again I thank you for the introduction that
00:48:11from the Venezuelan real estate chamber we have been observing is to call for
00:48:14us to recover trust among us Venezuelans, that gesture of
00:48:18solidarity, that gesture of help, the people who
00:48:21came down we. in our 20 chambers,
00:48:24we carried out operations,
00:48:27we collected food, we brought aid, eh, from people who
00:48:31were shoulder to shoulder with the
00:48:33community, that is an impulse that cannot be lost,
00:48:37that is an impulse that must be kept, because that is part of what
00:48:41one could define as Venezuelan identity, being
00:48:44Venezuelan is being supportive and being Venezuelan is
00:48:47being able to accompany, but you just said
00:48:51something very important, it is a society that
00:48:54is highly eh, let's say
00:48:57bombarded or is based on a terrible
00:49:01lack of trust among ourselves,
00:49:03look, when we talk about the
00:49:07law, at the same time there are
00:49:11the law, and one comes to understand that
00:49:15that they have certain, certain basis for being
00:49:19right, and it is there where we call to think. What kind of country
00:49:22do we want? This, this situation forces
00:49:25us to think about how we reconstruct ourselves as
00:49:28a society, and you said something very important, how we
00:49:32build ourselves as a society starting from
00:49:35ourselves, forgetting a little about the topic of
00:49:38status or executive
00:49:41politics, and it is there where we have to call on Venezuelan
00:49:45capital to enter, Venezuelan capital is called
00:49:48to the reconstruction of the country then. They will tell me, well, but
00:49:51the legal framework does not exist, well, the rental law is
00:49:55an example, I am convinced that
00:49:58there are next steps that will serve for
00:50:01this, but while we are in a debate about how
00:50:05the money from multilaterals enters, that
00:50:09if we have a problem of opacity in public
00:50:12accounts, if we are on the gray
00:50:16list of everything
00:50:20control of financing to terrorism,
00:50:24but we can call on Venezuelans to take a step of trust and
00:50:28build that Venezuela and that society
00:50:30that we want, then let's analyze a
00:50:33little what you said about credits and
00:50:37and the Arab of the gebe
00:50:40savannah, countries grow because they have
00:50:44credit, countries grow because they have a financial system sufficiently
00:50:48robust
00:50:52the... initiatives you have and to be able to build
00:50:55with you prosperity, abundance, eh,
00:50:58wealth, the Venezuelan
00:51:01banking system, due to the macroeconomic
00:51:04condition of the country, has become very
00:51:07small, and it is a system that needs
00:51:11to be updated, but it is in the given conditions, you said
00:51:14it very clearly, this is a matter of decisions,
00:51:18of making decisions, being effective and it is in the given conditions.
00:51:21The
00:51:24the Venezuelan banking sector is infinitely large
00:51:27and the capacity of those professionals who are currently waiting for the
00:51:31conditions for us to, let's say, start generating responses
00:51:35through the banking sector, that is there, just as the promoters are, just as
00:51:39the farmers are, just as all productive sectors
00:51:42are waiting for the conditions to
00:51:45contribute, again, the
00:51:48capital that is needed is in our
00:51:52own pockets, so I invite you to reflect on what
00:51:55kind of country we want, those of us who are here, what we see from
00:51:59outside, due to the events of January, we began to
00:52:02receive calls from people who wanted to see what the
00:52:06opportunities that the real estate business could offer at that time
00:52:10for their profitability and we told them:
00:52:14all possibilities exist, but we do not have the legal
00:52:17framework, today we say, the legal
00:52:21framework is already there, enter and
00:52:24contribute to generating that country we want
00:52:27and that is the message that I believe from the private sector
00:52:31we have to Venezuelans. Venezuelans have to see that there
00:52:35is, as I told you a while ago, a chamber of commerce with a high
00:52:38percentage of approval from the
00:52:41Venezuelan population, they exist because they are committed
00:52:44people, people who are giving everything to
00:52:47create conditions for those businesses they have and all their
00:52:51members under the
00:52:54umbrella organizations or sectors, such as the real estate chamber or
00:52:58regional ones, can have the benefit of being
00:53:02able to influence public policies because what we do as a guild is
00:53:05nothing more than trying to influence, trying to generate
00:53:08conditions, but on a social level, I think the
00:53:12message is general, the message is: let's open
00:53:15up a bit the spectrum of the panorama
00:53:19that we see and let's see how we contribute to the country and
00:53:23invite Venezuelans to invest in the country
00:53:27because that money is there, without a doubt,
00:53:29we have to continue developing the legal framework, but more
00:53:33important than the legal framework is that we can recognize each other, that we respect each other,
00:53:37that we can recognize and respect each other, let's go to the break and we'll be back,
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00:56:07grateful to God for this opportunity to allow us to be
00:56:11that difference between life and
00:56:14death, to be able to try to reach the
00:56:17people under the rubble quickly to increase the possibility of recovering them alive, I think
00:56:21we must maintain that mission,
00:56:24that we must form many teams like Jorge Bins
00:56:27and
00:56:28Tsunami.
00:56:59Pablo González,
00:57:02this is the moment to bet on the country. Look
00:57:06here we have a lot of years before even where
00:57:10political factors think they are the protagonists and not the
00:57:13people, the people have to be motivated. Then the situation that
00:57:17occurred on January 3rd also, that is a
00:57:20situation that has good things and bad things, because that's how you have to
00:57:23see it, the good thing is that it gives you the
00:57:27opportunity to review the mistakes you made
00:57:31to get out of them, that is the stabilization process, now that
00:57:35the government takes advantage of that, the government has to show willingness to
00:57:38change, if I, if you ask me, I am
00:57:42persuaded
00:57:45that the government is showing willingness to...
00:57:48because the private sector, specifically, which is what I
00:57:51can speak for, has been convened, has been heard, the
00:57:55doors are open and I am very
00:57:58very positively
00:58:01projected that our contributions will become
00:58:04the basis of a different
00:58:07Venezuela, but again I insist Quico, what
00:58:10we all do from our our
00:58:13platform, from our space will be positive, and
00:58:17exclusively if we have confidence among ourselves,
00:58:20what I would like to leave as a final
00:58:24message in this wonderful, wonderful time that
00:58:28I have shared with you and that I appreciate very much
00:58:31the opportunity you have given me today,
00:58:34nothing works unless we Venezuelans
00:58:37recognize each other, respect each other and begin to generate
00:58:41confidence in the country and I hope that soon when you
00:58:44invite me again I can tell you we are taking
00:58:48these steps in a decisive way, we Venezuelans,
00:58:50with the savings of Venezuelans and respecting the initiative of Venezuelans,
00:58:54that look, in the Venezuela
00:58:58of your dad, your mom got a
00:59:02loan, bought a house and left it to you, then you
00:59:05took money from there and
00:59:08gathered, bought others to when you retired or left them
00:59:12to your children or lived off rent, all that was
00:59:15destroyed by the expropriation.
00:59:18being rich is bad, all that discourse destroyed that,
00:59:21no, I believe that this is an
00:59:24opportunity to go back a little
00:59:27bit to get the good, to go
00:59:30forward, no, it's like that, it's like that, I agree with you,
00:59:34I believe that the country changed, I believe that we have
00:59:38a wonderful opportunity, I believe that the north and the Venezuela
00:59:42that we are building will definitely be different and we will all
00:59:45be able to enjoy